This is the first video I've watched about the new M3 Macbook Pro that doesn't start with the so cliché , unboxing, teardown, synthetic benchmarks, and thermals. It goes straight to the things that really matter to the end user, and I appreciate that.
I remember watching your videos when you first bought the Mac. I was watching lots of reviews at the time as I wanted to move from Windows to a MacBook Pro. I did eventually buy one and I can honestly say it’s the best experience I have ever had. My old Windows laptop took forever to load, the Mac takes seconds.
I think I will do the same as you. I really hated Windows OS. And everything about Windows. My only reason for using this garbage machine was the price and upgradeable option. But ISO if just more logical and more organised and just more simple, beautiful, and joy to work with. To the limit, you can do things blindly once you get adopted to the system. You know where everything is. Windows updates are just one of those painful journeys you hate to go through. Every time, they issue new update. I am way past that. I am happy to pay apple more for that alone, never the less the fact all their hardware is home grown and well optimised to work togeather.
The reason the M3 Max was twice as fast at encoding in Premiere Pro than your M1 Pro is because their "Max" products have double the video encoders of the "Pro" products. I initially had bought an M1 Pro (also switched from Windows) and ended up switching it again an M2 Max because I saw double the encoding time. I suspect if you had an M1 Max the encoding time would not be as huge of a difference as you saw compared to the M3 Max.
I tested exporting video files on two M1 Macs when they first came out - a Pro and Max variant. To my great surprise, the Max was not faster so I kept the Pro for better battery life. Maybe things have changed now.
@@graxxor Only the 14". The 16" M1 Max with some fan speed adjustment (setting the fans to speed up faster at lower temperatures than default) never throttles.
This is the video I needed to see! Thanks for this great video! I already have an M1 Max and this has put my FOMO to rest. Happy to wait the extra few minutes on an export
Yeah, this was a cool and different approach to these new machines. I totally agree with the M1's trouncing Photoshop. I have never encountered a problem. FCPX is a different story though, same with Chrome with lots of tabs open.
Chrome with lots of tab open is like I’m using a toaster.. granted I’m using a M1 MacBook Air but still, I feel like it shouldn’t be running that slowly….
I love these videos man, you seriously need to keep these type emails going. I watched you two years ago when you first switch from Windows to MAC and because of you I also switch from Windows to MAC.....love this, can't wait what you bring out next
I am so happy I got my 14" MacBook Pro M1 Max 64GB and 4TB From B&H this year for $2,200 brand new at closeout . Its is such a great computer and would have cost $5,000 from Apple back in the day. I never buy the current computers from Apple anymore, just get the previos one and its such a huge savings.
Absolutely agree! I made the controversial choice and got myself the M2 Air. Does the job as a video editor very well and I am mostly using 4K ProRes footage from the R5 which is notorious for big file sizes
I was on Apple's website an hour ago. No M2 offered unless refurbished. A phone call or visit to an Apple store might turn a new one up. I just do photography with not to much layer work so... I record some short wildlife/nature vids but never even edited 1. I doubt I need anything more than the MI/M2. I'm thinking Studio for home & Air for traveling/light editing & backing up to 2 external drives
Just get a m3 max 14 inch instead of a studio and an air; the m3 max basically has the same performance of the studio and a 14inch m3 max weighs only 300grams more than an air @@thomastuorto9929
Buying a used M1 Max computer is a great option as well. I’m seeing pretty huge discounts. You can get a M1 Max 16” MacBook Pro with 64GB RAM/4TB SSD for $3,000. Apple sells the same model refurbished for $3,600+, and it probably went for around $4,500+ new. I don’t need an M2 or an M3.
Yup, thanks for keeping it real! I'd love to upgrade my 16" M1 Pro but I can't for the life of me come up with a valid reason to do so; that's how friggen flawless this thing is! As a techie, it's cool to track the innovation but in the real world, where context is important, the improvements are close to negligible if minutes don't feed your number-porn left brain--or your not in the industry where such increments are, I admit, arguably significant. Love this video!
I've been waiting for the 3nm M3 chips since 2020, hence I bought a Lenovo X1 ThinkPad Extreme, sold it this year for €1000 just so I can get new M3 Macbook Pro MAX.
@@JimKanaris thank you brother, I’m happy for those getting it but my needs and wants are met with the M1 Pro. I have a base M2 MacBook Air and base + cellular M1 iPad Air for school and those things will last me 3-5 years easy and the M1 MBP is a guaranteed decade reliability machine.
Thanks for the real-world (no BS) insightful video. Premiere is often the least optimized NLE to test a machine on. If you have the time, try comparing the M1/M3 using Resolve, and or, Final Cut.
This is THE single most useful video on the internet regarding this product. I’m sure once it’s been a few weeks more videos like this may exist, but this right now is exactly what I needed. I have a 16” M1 pro and this smacked the luster right off that shiny object. Plus, explaining the objective reason why you upgraded adds to the utility of this video.
I've found your channel on YT recommandations and I can say that you are a great TH-camr love your channel and the way you presents everything! Thanks man!
Nice video man! I'm using the M1 Pro 10/16 as my main editing computer and Im always editing in ProRes. I rely on a lot of third-party plugins in FCP, and most of the time, it's snappy. The only thing I regret is opting for 16GB of RAM instead of 32GB. However, after installing CleanMyMacX and running the 'free up memory' option before editing, it has become super snappy again. The biggest problem Apple faces is that they've made the M1 Pro/M1 Max so good that it doesn't really make sense to upgrade to M2/M3 Pro/Max in most situations. Only if you're exporting all the time, but who does that? Not the majority of users, I'd assume. The single-core performance of the M1 Pro/Max is still insane, and single-core performance remains one of the most important aspects for a smooth workflow in FCPX.
Yea, it's hard to be immune to the marketing barrage we experience from creators and benchmarks. But I guess the thing is that the overhead on my laptop, even with 32 GB unified memory is like 60-70% typically. The M3 is like 20-100% faster than my 9-month M2 Max but I have to remind myself, the current bottleneck of my work is me. Not the current machine. I can be exporting a multi-layer Sony A7IV HVEC 4K footage, downsampled from 7K, with noise removal on one screen. Editing RAW 33 megapixel photos in lightroom on another screen while the video export is going and having a 3rd screen with non-stuttering TH-cam. I'm not even bothering to close the Word docs, chrome tabs (usually like 20+ as I'm a technical recruiter) or anything. So like, I'd love to have a new one but for what?
@@EthanSkinner-vb9ww Hi. Absolutely yes, the computer does not degrade its performance at all due to lack of RAM. Right now 51gb of memory is loaded and this is normal daily value, 0 bytes of swap. I don't have to think about system resources, I just work.
Before the M1 Pro I was constantly tempted to upgrade, but I've used it since launch and it's hard to think of anything that really justified buying a newer model. I guess maybe when I use Resolve to de-noise very occasionally, or how long it might take to stabilise a shot, but realistically that is not really changing my life. Time to sit on this laptop for as long as I can.
Totally Agreed! I will stick to M1 Pro, never realised that yes it's an expensive machine till date. Can easily sustain for the next 2 years down the line.
Coming from an intel MBP to a M3 Max 14 inch. It's definitely a worthy upgrade. I think the M3 is meant to entice the last of the Intel Mac users who are holding out.
I just bought the M3 Max with 48Gb RAM... reason is my M1 Pro only had 16Gb of RAM which was not nearly enough for me with my workload. The memory swap issue is real with only 16Gb. That and I also upped from 14" to 16" but should be super happy with the new one. If I got 32Gb with the M1 Pro in the first place I imagine I wouldn't be upgrading.
I made the mistake of going w/ 8 gb ram when purchasing my M1 13" years ago. It's fast enough for much of my photo editing, but learning that the mac utilizes the SSD to supplement the RAM, now I fear the SSD is not long for this world.
I have an M1 Max 32Gb and am considering upgrading only because I switched to Dual 4k monitors. I'm sitting at 23 GB with a few safari tabs, and TH-cam is 1.3 GB.
Same I went with the M3 Max 36gb, On my M1 Pro I was always using swap and my battery health was 70%. I couldn't justify the extra 500$ for the 48gb though. I got a decent trade in value for my Mac over 1K so I'm hoping this new one last me longer than 2 years cause I don't want to upgrade for 3-5 years at least.
Same here. M1 pro with 16 gb is struggling balls with music and videos if I toss in a few plugins on 5k raw footage and 192 khz audio. So I'm thinking of m3 max 14/30 cores with 96 gb ram vs 16/40 with 48 gb ram. What's your suggestion? Thanks.
I'm a game developer and I use the M1 Pro, which handles the workload efficiently. Initially, I hesitated about upgrading to the M3 Pro, but after watching this video, my concerns were resolved.
Since the beginning of the 90s, I used to build my own PCs I used to say that I would never switch to Mac but Windows 8 came out then I switch to Mac and never look back. I’ve been a happy camper since then.
Finally someone with real information instead of BS synthetic benchmarks that mean nothing to like 90% of people. I’m just getting into photography so any real use information about what I need to editing photos is helpful.
The M3 speed increases on all the software you mentioned won’t show right away just like the M1. You friends at Adobe needs to update their software to catch up completely. So while everybody is saying you’re keeping it real… ya not really cause it will get faster. Also this upgrade is for the stragglers still on Intel and those of us with budgets or leases. Apple doesn’t expect normal usage people to swap two year old computers.
I think the rendering differences are huge especially for 3D designers, which I suspect is the next niche market Apple wants to get hold of with these M3's, however you're absolutely spot on, you have to have bigger reasons to upgrade than just speed bumps to small parts of your work flow. Personally, I wanted a better, bigger screen, better speakers, better web cam & snappier browsing experience, than what I had on my 13" M1 MacBook Pro. I went for the M3 with 16gb of RAM, couldn't be happier. Good Video BTW, full of common sense 👏
I loved the comment about the new color! Very real review which I think many people miss! I remember watching your videos about switching and I was in a similar situation so they were all very real. Can't wait to see how your friends experience goes!
Subscribed because this is the sanest, most rational, down-to-earth tech review I’ve ever watched. Is a couple minutes worth spending $6k? Maybe, for a select few. But for normal people? Go grab a cup of coffee or take a bio break. It’s called work/life balance.
Thanks for a real world review. I’ll be coming from a 2017 Intel I5 so any of the M powered MacBook Pros will be big upgrade for me. LR exports from my new R5 & R3 Canon’s are taking an absolute age compared to my old 1Dx Mk1 files. Not sure why as the file sizes aren’t massively different but my old MacBook Pro really struggles with them.
I have M1 Pro with 16 gb ram and 500gb ssd and to be onest it struggle with Raw Photos from my R5 and when i export 4K videos to final cut it strugles too so i will upgrade to 38 gb ram M3Pro Mac definetly
@@MarioMajercak Good to know that even though R5 RAW files are big things. Is it the RAM holding it back as I don't fancy paying for an upgrade on RAM if it's not needed. I'd expect the new machines to fly whichever RAM is in there or am I expecting too much?
Thanks for bringing the “real world” back from fantasy….. so easy to get caught up in all the hype for upgrade after upgrade, but in the cold light of day….. always best to use your head and save $$$$ than go with your rose coloured spectacles!! 😀 Loved the video and the style of presentation!! 👍
You just saved me some money. I had an M3 Max in my cart and this video popped up in my recommended. I’m going to keep my M1 Pro. My worst case use is similar to your examples.
You didn’t clarify your computer specs which would’ve been super helpful. I have the M1 MacBook Pro pro chip 16gb ram 512 storage and can’t play back 4k footage smoothly once I add a speed ramp and motion blur to a clip.
As always, great insight man! In my case, though the upgrade from a 2019 mbp 16" with intel chip to this new computer will be so much worth every penny. I've got a chance to use a base M1 mbp 13" recently in my work and the difference is night and day in a very good way. Every way, except the of course the smaller screen. But if the base M1 impressed me so much, improved my productivity and mobility, what more with these latest machines. At 6:23 though, I wasn't prepared for that. The pause, the anticipation, and the first reason made me crack. Good times man.😅
A really refreshing take. I'd being going back and forth about upgrading but this has just made me realise I really don't need to ...... Yet! Thanks man
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 💸 *A comparison between the old M1 Pro and the newly upgraded M3 Max MacBook Pro.* - The introduction of the two laptops in question and identification of the costs. - Remarks on why an upgrade seems unnecessary due to the existing M1 Pro performing very well. 01:09 🖥️ *Practical comparison of real-life usage, not abstract benchmarks.* - Emphasis on the importance of daily usage experience over numerical performance benchmarks. - Commentary on how the old M1 Pro handles multi-tasking and heavy applications like Photoshop, Premiere, and Chrome flawlessly. 03:55 🔄 *Performance in exporting videos or images and rendering effects.* - Comparison of both laptops' speed in exporting Adobe Premiere videos and raw files from Lightroom. - Observation that the new M3 Max can be significantly faster but argues whether the extra speed is really necessary or noticeable in daily use. 05:44 🎁 *Upgrade Decision: Based more on external factors than performance itself.* - Rationalization for the purchase of the new M3 Max, which includes future workstation plans and the intent to pass on the M1 Pro computer to a business partner who is a Windows user. 07:06 😠 *An upcoming humorous project of a Windows-user forced to use Mac.* - Description of a planned challenge where the business partner, a Windows-user, will be forced to use a Mac device for a week. - Anticipation of hilarity due to partner's lack of ability to adjust to new software or hardware. 08:54 📷 *Contest promotion for photographers using Tamron lenses.* - Promotion of a portrait photography contest with the winning prize being Tamron’s camera lens and other attractive prizes for the runners-up. Made with HARPA AI
First personally owned Mac that I got coming off from Windows based laptops, was the 2020 MacBook Air M1 base model which I got in 2021. Still use it as my daily driver until this day. I don't do any video editing and or rendering, or much photo editing to be honest, with the minimal stuff that I do use it for has been great, and I don't feel that I will upgrade from my M1 for a long time. Awesome video!
Finally retiring my 2015 MBP, it's got slow enough to be frustrating with 50mp photos and has developed a fault causing random crashes. Hopefully an M3 will last me just as long!
I loved the way you went to the practical aspects, testimonial of real usage. Great! I would have liked to know the specs of your laptops: How many cores, How much ram, etc. And if they have both the same other than a different chip.
Few months ago I bought a used M1 Max Mac Studio with upped GPU cores and RAM. I was hesitant a bit because M2 Mac Studio was already out, but the deal on that used M1 was too good to pass up (roughly a grand cheaper than a similarly config'd M2 Mac Studio), so I took the plunge. BEST DECISION I EVER MADE. M1 Max flies through everything I throw at it, I can't imagine outgrowing this baby anytime soon. I bet it'll be M6 at the earliest before I get the itch to upgrade my M1.
That's exactly what people need to hear, thank you! The only good reason for many to upgrade from an M1 Pro or better is to flood the market with refurbished/used MBPs for other people to buy. If you want to switch to Mac, the best time is now - but by getting a refurbished one. Even the Intel ones are a great option if you are on a budget, the market is flooded with them because so many people upgraded. Just ask yourself honestly what you need (how much power, storage, which size, battery life etc.) and get just that.
Lol, thanks for a fun and insightful video. That twist with forcing your friend to use the MacBook M1 Pro will be hilarious to follow. Like you I switched from lifetime on Windows to a MacBook Pro M1 about the same time you did. Watched your original experience of that and had all the same frustrations. A lot of the things on macOS still drives me bonkers, like poor multi monitor and windows snapping UX, some parts in the file manager (finder), mouse scroll wheel, cmd vs ctrl, but you configure it a bit, add some free open source fixes, and most of it gets ok or better. The app menus on top of the screen still drives me nuts on 4k screens at native res, they are often so far away from the app window that it becomes really bad ux, makes no sense. Still the hardware is outstanding and it just works through my tasks effortlessly, silently, cool and at same speed on battery when needed. I code btw, so almost no photo/video editing. Like you, I use 2x 4k external monitors, plus the laptop screen, all are mounted on arms. No issues, everything is smooth, whatever I do, plus 100 browser tabs. When I started using it, macOS would randomly swap the placement of the identical 4k monitors, took a year of frustration, but they have silently fixed it, I think so, since I have not seen that issue in months. I see no reason to upgrade from a M1 Pro with 32GB of ram at the moment, other than yes more screens, but I am pretty ok with current 2 monitor setup too. Looking forward to seeing what you do with more monitors and how you set it up.
I am trying to transistion from Windows to MacOS for 3 Months now. I did not have a lot of time because I was on many business trips. MacOS drives me nuts for the most simple operations.
Lee, for long time I rather watch you giving honest, no BS review then those openings and stats with percentage how much new is faster than older one. Who cares? You have always healthy approach to the tech and thank you for doing it. 👍🏻
I have an Intel Mac 2018 i7 and had no issues with FCP or PS when I started with it. However, over the past year and half, things have been changing and this computer is not keeping up. Point is, the new M3 is designed for what's coming, not what's already here. The M1 is designed for what's now, because the technology caught up to it. If someone is upgrading from an Intel Mac, than the M3 max would be there best bet. If you have an M1, than it would be okay to wait until there is an M4 or 5 chip.
Nice one, I got my first own Mac back in 96 maybe? I've used and worked with PC:s too all my life, but there's something about MacOS and Macs when it comes to user friendliness, pro or consumer. Personally I've always kept a Mac. And there's never ever - at least not under my soon to be 30 years as a Mac owner - been a better time than now. Mac's never been this good, especially after Apple Silicon.
I bought the last gen intel macbook fully loaded 6400 bucks just a month before m1 came out and have struggled till the last 6months w crashing. Hope its supported until i can afford to upgrade.nice 🎉. Thank You
Thank you ! Real life experience is what counts. Not the 1/3 of a second I save doing a process that’s already 20x faster than what I was using before.
This video is six months old, but I can't find a follow up with how Patrick got on. Did the idea die before it started? Is Patrick's content on a different channel? I loved the series of videos Lee has done on his Macbook, and they are probably what decided me to try a Mac. I'd already come to the conclusion that an MBP would be 30% lighter with double the battery life of the MS Surface Studio I was looking at. My M2 Pro with 1Tb drive might be here tomorrow, and I can't wait. Strangely, it is learning the new OS that I am most looking forward to.
I agree, but that's why Apple kept mainly attacking the Intel-based Macbook Pro systems - to get people to upgrade! Now that is a big upgrade, rather than M1 or M2 systems.
I have an M1 Max and yes M3 Max has much better multicore performance. And I am glad to see apple continue to increase performance. But the cost of the new machine is too high and the trade in values of the older machines are too low to make it worth an upgrade. And while the chip performance is better, many things on the new machine remain the same as on the old ones. For example, the chassis is the same, the speakers are the same, the screen is the same (and with the Vivid app, I can increase the SDR brightness of my M1 Max well above 500 nits), macOS is the same, thunderbolt 4 speeds are the same, wifi/bluetooth radios are the same, little to no fan noise is the same, storage speeds are roughly the same, lack of AAA games is the same, no native Windows on ARM (bootcamp) is the same. I am only going to upgrade when thunderbolt 5 arrives with double the PCIe bandwidth along the wire. Until then, I'm happy to see Apple keep the pedal to the metal, all aboard the 3 nanometer express. If Apple offered an upgrade program where I could keep my chassis, screen, speakers, and storage, and upgrade the logic board to the new M3 Max, I would look into doing that. Why pay for a new chassis, screen, speakers, fans, etc when the ones I have work perfectly fine??? But as we know, Apple offers no such thing.
Preach brother! My methodology is not upgrading until the computer gets in the way of doing work. If it's laggy making things or editing, that's a problem. Renders and encoding are what they are, for the most part, a few extra minutes aren't the end of the world. I have a base spec M1 Max 16", I was shocked how it replaced an iMac Pro with 128 GB of RAM.
I was a lifelong Windows user from Windows 95 on… I used Windows 3.1 sporadically. I switched to MacOS in 2015 with a 5K iMac and i will never go back to Windows. Compared to MacOS, Windows is bloatware and a troubleshooting pain in the ass…. I got so sick of it. I am not a creator, so i dont need anything close to an M3 MAX laptop, however i upgraded to an M2 MacBook Air (16 GB) in the summer and it’s fantastic. I’ll get 2 or 3 years use out of it then hand it down to my son who will be going to University.
There is little performance gain (time) for a costly new M3 laptop. Thanks for the test, buddy! Appreciate it. I think this is best for someone who has a MacBook Pro 2015 version and wants a new laptop. 2015 still kick ass!
Thanks for the down-to-earth honest review. I have an older 2017 27” iMac i7 that is a 4.2Ghz 4-core CPU. Should I get a M2 Max or M3 Max? Is 36GB RAM sufficient for having Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign and Blender open and a few web browsers all at once?
This the video i been waiting for, real and to the point. Most reviews are just people saying get it because of this and future proof that, which they say with everything and never even use it for more than half the stuff the talk about.
Same here, windows user converted to Mac. BUT what I want to know is why a career creator like yourself is sticking to a 14 inch and not the 16 incher? Wouldn't the extra screen real estate improve your editing experience? Can u make a video about that? Much appreciated.
I am in your exact position except I bought the M1 Max two years ago. I find myself wondering if the M3 Max is enough of an upgrade. After watching this video, I think I’ll wait. Thank you Sub +1. Also I will be watching for videos from your partner. Should be fun.
You're right about there being nothing wrong with using refurbished machine or older-ish computers. However, I don't think most modern machines have an issue playing back normal footage. Many wedding video and other video editors in general, use stuff like denoise or other effects on the clips. When you add those, it significantly slows playback down, almost to the point of stopping in some cases, and significantly exports down. Next time you do a comparison like this, can you please include difficult footage? I know you're not Linus, so if not, NBD, I'll still watch, but I think it would be a more fair comparison.
This is the first video I've watched about the new M3 Macbook Pro that doesn't start with the so cliché , unboxing, teardown, synthetic benchmarks, and thermals. It goes straight to the things that really matter to the end user, and I appreciate that.
which is forcing apple products on others because they are so amazing :)
They deliberately pad the video to get more runtime to increase the money they earn. It's annoying.
100%
M3 is not worth it.
@@samwbh6951what's your experience?
lol unless ur editing for paramount or Netflix sure.
I remember watching your videos when you first bought the Mac. I was watching lots of reviews at the time as I wanted to move from Windows to a MacBook Pro. I did eventually buy one and I can honestly say it’s the best experience I have ever had. My old Windows laptop took forever to load, the Mac takes seconds.
I think I will do the same as you. I really hated Windows OS. And everything about Windows. My only reason for using this garbage machine was the price and upgradeable option. But ISO if just more logical and more organised and just more simple, beautiful, and joy to work with. To the limit, you can do things blindly once you get adopted to the system. You know where everything is.
Windows updates are just one of those painful journeys you hate to go through. Every time, they issue new update.
I am way past that. I am happy to pay apple more for that alone, never the less the fact all their hardware is home grown and well optimised to work togeather.
Intel is slow 🐌 so i use mbp 1 till arm chips get released in Windows then I'll jump ship to win. I like win ui better.
The reason the M3 Max was twice as fast at encoding in Premiere Pro than your M1 Pro is because their "Max" products have double the video encoders of the "Pro" products. I initially had bought an M1 Pro (also switched from Windows) and ended up switching it again an M2 Max because I saw double the encoding time. I suspect if you had an M1 Max the encoding time would not be as huge of a difference as you saw compared to the M3 Max.
Thanks for this really small but very crucial nugget of information. I didn’t know they have dedicated number of codecs for different chip type.
M1 Max was thermally limited in laptops and didn’t perform
Much better than the Pro in many cases after a few minutes of heating up.
I tested exporting video files on two M1 Macs when they first came out - a Pro and Max variant. To my great surprise, the Max was not faster so I kept the Pro for better battery life. Maybe things have changed now.
Interesting, for me the render speed doubled from 51fps on the M1 Pro to 102fps on the M2 Max, that's on Davinci Resolve. @@ryanw8664
@@graxxor Only the 14". The 16" M1 Max with some fan speed adjustment (setting the fans to speed up faster at lower temperatures than default) never throttles.
“I really like this darker finish, I just feel like it looks so much better, I’m kidding” 😂😂😂
He got me with that one 😂
For a brief moment he got me with that one 😂
Give old one to me. 🤓😅
If this guy didn't buy it just for being black, I guess the colour has nothing to do with it 😂
Actually I dropped by the local
Apple Store and that new black does look good and doesn’t show the finger prints.
This is the video I needed to see! Thanks for this great video! I already have an M1 Max and this has put my FOMO to rest. Happy to wait the extra few minutes on an export
Couldn't have said it better
Thank you for teaching me guitar. You're a legend.
@@poggybitz513 thank you!
Yeah, this was a cool and different approach to these new machines. I totally agree with the M1's trouncing Photoshop. I have never encountered a problem. FCPX is a different story though, same with Chrome with lots of tabs open.
Which M1 is that?
@@stadtjer689 M1 Pro MacBook 16"
6:23 😅😅😅
Chrome with lots of tab open is like I’m using a toaster.. granted I’m using a M1 MacBook Air but still, I feel like it shouldn’t be running that slowly….
I don't have FCP however photoshop with 17 chrome tabs open does not slow down for me, 16inch M1 Pro.
The bit about Patrick brought me so much joy. “He’s an old grumpy man…” and then his reaction. The best 😂
I love these videos man, you seriously need to keep these type emails going. I watched you two years ago when you first switch from Windows to MAC and because of you I also switch from Windows to MAC.....love this, can't wait what you bring out next
I am so happy I got my 14" MacBook Pro M1 Max 64GB and 4TB From B&H this year for $2,200 brand new at closeout . Its is such a great computer and would have cost $5,000 from Apple back in the day. I never buy the current computers from Apple anymore, just get the previos one and its such a huge savings.
Absolutely agree! I made the controversial choice and got myself the M2 Air. Does the job as a video editor very well and I am mostly using 4K ProRes footage from the R5 which is notorious for big file sizes
I was on Apple's website an hour ago. No M2 offered unless refurbished. A phone call or visit to an Apple store might turn a new one up. I just do photography with not to much layer work so... I record some short wildlife/nature vids but never even edited 1. I doubt I need anything more than the MI/M2. I'm thinking Studio for home & Air for traveling/light editing & backing up to 2 external drives
Just get a m3 max 14 inch instead of a studio and an air; the m3 max basically has the same performance of the studio and a 14inch m3 max weighs only 300grams more than an air @@thomastuorto9929
I’m thinking of getting g the base max mini m2 for 500$
You think it’ll be good for editing pro res 4K
@@nelsonZeledon enough room on it for your software & video files?
@@thomastuorto9929 I have tons of external storage so not a problem honestly
Buying a used M1 Max computer is a great option as well. I’m seeing pretty huge discounts. You can get a M1 Max 16” MacBook Pro with 64GB RAM/4TB SSD for $3,000. Apple sells the same model refurbished for $3,600+, and it probably went for around $4,500+ new. I don’t need an M2 or an M3.
I look forward to seeing the video with Patrick using the Macbook Pro M1!
Yup, thanks for keeping it real! I'd love to upgrade my 16" M1 Pro but I can't for the life of me come up with a valid reason to do so; that's how friggen flawless this thing is! As a techie, it's cool to track the innovation but in the real world, where context is important, the improvements are close to negligible if minutes don't feed your number-porn left brain--or your not in the industry where such increments are, I admit, arguably significant. Love this video!
I've been waiting for the 3nm M3 chips since 2020, hence I bought a Lenovo X1 ThinkPad Extreme, sold it this year for €1000 just so I can get new M3 Macbook Pro MAX.
@@Darragh1 sounds reasonable to me!
I’m buying a brand new M1 16” (16gb/1tb) next month and am hyped!
@@cuve_ae Like I said, great machine! Don't let the current hype surrounding the M3 Pro/Max rob you of your excitement. You. will. not. regret. it.
@@JimKanaris thank you brother, I’m happy for those getting it but my needs and wants are met with the M1 Pro. I have a base M2 MacBook Air and base + cellular M1 iPad Air for school and those things will last me 3-5 years easy and the M1 MBP is a guaranteed decade reliability machine.
I have a whole bunch of these M1 vs M3 videos in my watch later, but your perspective here cleared it all up for me.
Thanks for the real-world (no BS) insightful video. Premiere is often the least optimized NLE to test a machine on. If you have the time, try comparing the M1/M3 using Resolve, and or, Final Cut.
Love your "no bs" approach and really appreciate your videos!
This is THE single most useful video on the internet regarding this product. I’m sure once it’s been a few weeks more videos like this may exist, but this right now is exactly what I needed. I have a 16” M1 pro and this smacked the luster right off that shiny object. Plus, explaining the objective reason why you upgraded adds to the utility of this video.
ive seen many great reviews for the new MacBook pros but this is the one I needed to see. hard and real.
How about you give me half of the $4k I saved you ;)
great idea! but can you just send me a new MacBook Pro instead because you are the best TH-cam channel ever?@@FStoppers
I've found your channel on YT recommandations and I can say that you are a great TH-camr love your channel and the way you presents everything! Thanks man!
Nice video man! I'm using the M1 Pro 10/16 as my main editing computer and Im always editing in ProRes. I rely on a lot of third-party plugins in FCP, and most of the time, it's snappy. The only thing I regret is opting for 16GB of RAM instead of 32GB. However, after installing CleanMyMacX and running the 'free up memory' option before editing, it has become super snappy again. The biggest problem Apple faces is that they've made the M1 Pro/M1 Max so good that it doesn't really make sense to upgrade to M2/M3 Pro/Max in most situations. Only if you're exporting all the time, but who does that? Not the majority of users, I'd assume. The single-core performance of the M1 Pro/Max is still insane, and single-core performance remains one of the most important aspects for a smooth workflow in FCPX.
The M1 Pro was my first Mac too, only thing I was upset about was the fact I didn’t switch from Windows years ago
well yeah lol written from another M1 pro ;)
Yea, it's hard to be immune to the marketing barrage we experience from creators and benchmarks. But I guess the thing is that the overhead on my laptop, even with 32 GB unified memory is like 60-70% typically. The M3 is like 20-100% faster than my 9-month M2 Max but I have to remind myself, the current bottleneck of my work is me. Not the current machine. I can be exporting a multi-layer Sony A7IV HVEC 4K footage, downsampled from 7K, with noise removal on one screen. Editing RAW 33 megapixel photos in lightroom on another screen while the video export is going and having a 3rd screen with non-stuttering TH-cam. I'm not even bothering to close the Word docs, chrome tabs (usually like 20+ as I'm a technical recruiter) or anything. So like, I'd love to have a new one but for what?
I just bought a new 14 M1Max 64GB/2TB with an incredible discount for just $2300, and I'm really happy about it.
4 months later was it still worth it?
@@EthanSkinner-vb9ww Hi. Absolutely yes, the computer does not degrade its performance at all due to lack of RAM. Right now 51gb of memory is loaded and this is normal daily value, 0 bytes of swap. I don't have to think about system resources, I just work.
@@CheckTime good insight thanks
Before the M1 Pro I was constantly tempted to upgrade, but I've used it since launch and it's hard to think of anything that really justified buying a newer model. I guess maybe when I use Resolve to de-noise very occasionally, or how long it might take to stabilise a shot, but realistically that is not really changing my life. Time to sit on this laptop for as long as I can.
Totally Agreed! I will stick to M1 Pro, never realised that yes it's an expensive machine till date. Can easily sustain for the next 2 years down the line.
Coming from an intel MBP to a M3 Max 14 inch. It's definitely a worthy upgrade. I think the M3 is meant to entice the last of the Intel Mac users who are holding out.
I just bought the M3 Max with 48Gb RAM... reason is my M1 Pro only had 16Gb of RAM which was not nearly enough for me with my workload. The memory swap issue is real with only 16Gb. That and I also upped from 14" to 16" but should be super happy with the new one. If I got 32Gb with the M1 Pro in the first place I imagine I wouldn't be upgrading.
I made the mistake of going w/ 8 gb ram when purchasing my M1 13" years ago. It's fast enough for much of my photo editing, but learning that the mac utilizes the SSD to supplement the RAM, now I fear the SSD is not long for this world.
I have an M1 Max 32Gb and am considering upgrading only because I switched to Dual 4k monitors. I'm sitting at 23 GB with a few safari tabs, and TH-cam is 1.3 GB.
Same I went with the M3 Max 36gb, On my M1 Pro I was always using swap and my battery health was 70%. I couldn't justify the extra 500$ for the 48gb though. I got a decent trade in value for my Mac over 1K so I'm hoping this new one last me longer than 2 years cause I don't want to upgrade for 3-5 years at least.
Same here. M1 pro with 16 gb is struggling balls with music and videos if I toss in a few plugins on 5k raw footage and 192 khz audio. So I'm thinking of m3 max 14/30 cores with 96 gb ram vs 16/40 with 48 gb ram. What's your suggestion? Thanks.
I Feel like the sweet spot would be the 16/40 with 64gb ram option it would also be more cost elective like $100+ less than the 16/30 96gb@@psysword
I'm a game developer and I use the M1 Pro, which handles the workload efficiently. Initially, I hesitated about upgrading to the M3 Pro, but after watching this video, my concerns were resolved.
Great perspective and real talk on necessity of upgrading. Also, very interested to see Patrick’s experience!
Since the beginning of the 90s, I used to build my own PCs I used to say that I would never switch to Mac but Windows 8 came out then I switch to Mac and never look back. I’ve been a happy camper since then.
Good review as usual, a REAL review not hyperbole. Great advice and examples.
Finally someone with real information instead of BS synthetic benchmarks that mean nothing to like 90% of people. I’m just getting into photography so any real use information about what I need to editing photos is helpful.
The M3 speed increases on all the software you mentioned won’t show right away just like the M1. You friends at Adobe needs to update their software to catch up completely. So while everybody is saying you’re keeping it real… ya not really cause it will get faster. Also this upgrade is for the stragglers still on Intel and those of us with budgets or leases. Apple doesn’t expect normal usage people to swap two year old computers.
I think the rendering differences are huge especially for 3D designers, which I suspect is the next niche market Apple wants to get hold of with these M3's, however you're absolutely spot on, you have to have bigger reasons to upgrade than just speed bumps to small parts of your work flow.
Personally, I wanted a better, bigger screen, better speakers, better web cam & snappier browsing experience, than what I had on my 13" M1 MacBook Pro.
I went for the M3 with 16gb of RAM, couldn't be happier.
Good Video BTW, full of common sense 👏
16gb or 18gb Ram?
Dude I absolutely love your videos. Keep on killing it man.
On an i9 MBP from 2019…. Been waiting on a huge bump to upgrade. This looks like a good time to buy a new one.
So did he ever make that video? No links in the description to his channel
I loved the comment about the new color! Very real review which I think many people miss! I remember watching your videos about switching and I was in a similar situation so they were all very real. Can't wait to see how your friends experience goes!
This video is freaking awesome!! Totally my style. You just got another subscriber so thank you for putting this together.
I so love you guys. I’ve been following you for years and it’s great to see you still get on. I’m using an M1 16in btw and I love the thing.
Subscribed because this is the sanest, most rational, down-to-earth tech review I’ve ever watched. Is a couple minutes worth spending $6k? Maybe, for a select few. But for normal people? Go grab a cup of coffee or take a bio break. It’s called work/life balance.
We need more people like you. For what I need it’s perfect.
Thanks for a real world review. I’ll be coming from a 2017 Intel I5 so any of the M powered MacBook Pros will be big upgrade for me. LR exports from my new R5 & R3 Canon’s are taking an absolute age compared to my old 1Dx Mk1 files. Not sure why as the file sizes aren’t massively different but my old MacBook Pro really struggles with them.
I have M1 Pro with 16 gb ram and 500gb ssd and to be onest it struggle with Raw Photos from my R5 and when i export 4K videos to final cut it strugles too so i will upgrade to 38 gb ram M3Pro Mac definetly
@@MarioMajercak Good to know that even though R5 RAW files are big things. Is it the RAM holding it back as I don't fancy paying for an upgrade on RAM if it's not needed. I'd expect the new machines to fly whichever RAM is in there or am I expecting too much?
Thanks for bringing the “real world” back from fantasy….. so easy to get caught up in all the hype for upgrade after upgrade, but in the cold light of day….. always best to use your head and save $$$$ than go with your rose coloured spectacles!! 😀 Loved the video and the style of presentation!! 👍
You just saved me some money. I had an M3 Max in my cart and this video popped up in my recommended. I’m going to keep my M1 Pro. My worst case use is similar to your examples.
You didn’t clarify your computer specs which would’ve been super helpful. I have the M1 MacBook Pro pro chip 16gb ram 512 storage and can’t play back 4k footage smoothly once I add a speed ramp and motion blur to a clip.
This. My m1 Pro 16'' base will be good for likely 10 years like most macs. Love the outro/intro reactions for the next video.
Your review is the most candid and personal sharing, in my point of view.
As always, great insight man! In my case, though the upgrade from a 2019 mbp 16" with intel chip to this new computer will be so much worth every penny. I've got a chance to use a base M1 mbp 13" recently in my work and the difference is night and day in a very good way. Every way, except the of course the smaller screen. But if the base M1 impressed me so much, improved my productivity and mobility, what more with these latest machines.
At 6:23 though, I wasn't prepared for that. The pause, the anticipation, and the first reason made me crack. Good times man.😅
A really refreshing take. I'd being going back and forth about upgrading but this has just made me realise I really don't need to ...... Yet! Thanks man
Finally someone not talking like previous models are unusable, great content btw!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 💸 *A comparison between the old M1 Pro and the newly upgraded M3 Max MacBook Pro.*
- The introduction of the two laptops in question and identification of the costs.
- Remarks on why an upgrade seems unnecessary due to the existing M1 Pro performing very well.
01:09 🖥️ *Practical comparison of real-life usage, not abstract benchmarks.*
- Emphasis on the importance of daily usage experience over numerical performance benchmarks.
- Commentary on how the old M1 Pro handles multi-tasking and heavy applications like Photoshop, Premiere, and Chrome flawlessly.
03:55 🔄 *Performance in exporting videos or images and rendering effects.*
- Comparison of both laptops' speed in exporting Adobe Premiere videos and raw files from Lightroom.
- Observation that the new M3 Max can be significantly faster but argues whether the extra speed is really necessary or noticeable in daily use.
05:44 🎁 *Upgrade Decision: Based more on external factors than performance itself.*
- Rationalization for the purchase of the new M3 Max, which includes future workstation plans and the intent to pass on the M1 Pro computer to a business partner who is a Windows user.
07:06 😠 *An upcoming humorous project of a Windows-user forced to use Mac.*
- Description of a planned challenge where the business partner, a Windows-user, will be forced to use a Mac device for a week.
- Anticipation of hilarity due to partner's lack of ability to adjust to new software or hardware.
08:54 📷 *Contest promotion for photographers using Tamron lenses.*
- Promotion of a portrait photography contest with the winning prize being Tamron’s camera lens and other attractive prizes for the runners-up.
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Lool gonna love the update to this series!
6:24 is why I love this channel.
First personally owned Mac that I got coming off from Windows based laptops, was the 2020 MacBook Air M1 base model which I got in 2021. Still use it as my daily driver until this day. I don't do any video editing and or rendering, or much photo editing to be honest, with the minimal stuff that I do use it for has been great, and I don't feel that I will upgrade from my M1 for a long time. Awesome video!
I like his reaction. I would love to see him ending up loving the Mac =) Can't wait
Finally retiring my 2015 MBP, it's got slow enough to be frustrating with 50mp photos and has developed a fault causing random crashes. Hopefully an M3 will last me just as long!
You’re about to have your mind blown
I just got a 14in M3 Max MacBook Pro. This was a huge upgrade from the 2016 intel MacBook 15 in.
I loved the way you went to the practical aspects, testimonial of real usage. Great! I would have liked to know the specs of your laptops: How many cores, How much ram, etc. And if they have both the same other than a different chip.
A very good pragmatic review. Thanks!
Few months ago I bought a used M1 Max Mac Studio with upped GPU cores and RAM. I was hesitant a bit because M2 Mac Studio was already out, but the deal on that used M1 was too good to pass up (roughly a grand cheaper than a similarly config'd M2 Mac Studio), so I took the plunge. BEST DECISION I EVER MADE. M1 Max flies through everything I throw at it, I can't imagine outgrowing this baby anytime soon. I bet it'll be M6 at the earliest before I get the itch to upgrade my M1.
That’s probably the earliest you’ll be rich enough again to afford one too 😉. My 16” M1 Pro is the same story. Nothing slows it down yet.
@@ryanw8664 Ain't that the truth lol
I am so looking forward to his review. Thanks for doing this.
That's exactly what people need to hear, thank you! The only good reason for many to upgrade from an M1 Pro or better is to flood the market with refurbished/used MBPs for other people to buy. If you want to switch to Mac, the best time is now - but by getting a refurbished one. Even the Intel ones are a great option if you are on a budget, the market is flooded with them because so many people upgraded. Just ask yourself honestly what you need (how much power, storage, which size, battery life etc.) and get just that.
Lol, thanks for a fun and insightful video. That twist with forcing your friend to use the MacBook M1 Pro will be hilarious to follow.
Like you I switched from lifetime on Windows to a MacBook Pro M1 about the same time you did. Watched your original experience of that and had all the same frustrations. A lot of the things on macOS still drives me bonkers, like poor multi monitor and windows snapping UX, some parts in the file manager (finder), mouse scroll wheel, cmd vs ctrl, but you configure it a bit, add some free open source fixes, and most of it gets ok or better. The app menus on top of the screen still drives me nuts on 4k screens at native res, they are often so far away from the app window that it becomes really bad ux, makes no sense.
Still the hardware is outstanding and it just works through my tasks effortlessly, silently, cool and at same speed on battery when needed. I code btw, so almost no photo/video editing. Like you, I use 2x 4k external monitors, plus the laptop screen, all are mounted on arms. No issues, everything is smooth, whatever I do, plus 100 browser tabs. When I started using it, macOS would randomly swap the placement of the identical 4k monitors, took a year of frustration, but they have silently fixed it, I think so, since I have not seen that issue in months.
I see no reason to upgrade from a M1 Pro with 32GB of ram at the moment, other than yes more screens, but I am pretty ok with current 2 monitor setup too. Looking forward to seeing what you do with more monitors and how you set it up.
Sounds like we are the same person
I am trying to transistion from Windows to MacOS for 3 Months now. I did not have a lot of time because I was on many business trips. MacOS drives me nuts for the most simple operations.
Lee, for long time I rather watch you giving honest, no BS review then those openings and stats with percentage how much new is faster than older one. Who cares? You have always healthy approach to the tech and thank you for doing it. 👍🏻
I have an Intel Mac 2018 i7 and had no issues with FCP or PS when I started with it. However, over the past year and half, things have been changing and this computer is not keeping up. Point is, the new M3 is designed for what's coming, not what's already here. The M1 is designed for what's now, because the technology caught up to it. If someone is upgrading from an Intel Mac, than the M3 max would be there best bet. If you have an M1, than it would be okay to wait until there is an M4 or 5 chip.
Yaaaay!!! Bravo! Patrick, we’re very excited to see your video! Do it, you won’t regret it, I promise!
Love you guys.
Nice one, I got my first own Mac back in 96 maybe? I've used and worked with PC:s too all my life, but there's something about MacOS and Macs when it comes to user friendliness, pro or consumer. Personally I've always kept a Mac. And there's never ever - at least not under my soon to be 30 years as a Mac owner - been a better time than now. Mac's never been this good, especially after Apple Silicon.
I bought the last gen intel macbook fully loaded 6400 bucks just a month before m1 came out and have struggled till the last 6months w crashing. Hope its supported until i can afford to upgrade.nice 🎉. Thank You
4:14 It's because the M1 Pro has a single encoding/decoding engine as opposed to 2 on the M3 max.
Thank for being honest and not looking for a free Mac! 👍👍👍
Go on Patrick you can do it.
Thank you !
Real life experience is what counts. Not the 1/3 of a second I save doing a process that’s already 20x faster than what I was using before.
I have M1 Pro 14 inch MBP I am very happy with my purchase! No need to get the M3 Models.
This video is six months old, but I can't find a follow up with how Patrick got on. Did the idea die before it started? Is Patrick's content on a different channel? I loved the series of videos Lee has done on his Macbook, and they are probably what decided me to try a Mac. I'd already come to the conclusion that an MBP would be 30% lighter with double the battery life of the MS Surface Studio I was looking at. My M2 Pro with 1Tb drive might be here tomorrow, and I can't wait. Strangely, it is learning the new OS that I am most looking forward to.
I'm stoked for the upcoming video of Patricks report! looking forward to it.
I agree, but that's why Apple kept mainly attacking the Intel-based Macbook Pro systems - to get people to upgrade! Now that is a big upgrade, rather than M1 or M2 systems.
I am watching this on my MacBook 16-inch M1 Pro. This thing is plenty of power! Great review!
The most honest review I've watched of a MacBook Pro
This is absolutely on point! Thank you for proving me right 🙏🏻
I have an M1 Max and yes M3 Max has much better multicore performance. And I am glad to see apple continue to increase performance. But the cost of the new machine is too high and the trade in values of the older machines are too low to make it worth an upgrade. And while the chip performance is better, many things on the new machine remain the same as on the old ones. For example, the chassis is the same, the speakers are the same, the screen is the same (and with the Vivid app, I can increase the SDR brightness of my M1 Max well above 500 nits), macOS is the same, thunderbolt 4 speeds are the same, wifi/bluetooth radios are the same, little to no fan noise is the same, storage speeds are roughly the same, lack of AAA games is the same, no native Windows on ARM (bootcamp) is the same.
I am only going to upgrade when thunderbolt 5 arrives with double the PCIe bandwidth along the wire. Until then, I'm happy to see Apple keep the pedal to the metal, all aboard the 3 nanometer express. If Apple offered an upgrade program where I could keep my chassis, screen, speakers, and storage, and upgrade the logic board to the new M3 Max, I would look into doing that. Why pay for a new chassis, screen, speakers, fans, etc when the ones I have work perfectly fine??? But as we know, Apple offers no such thing.
Preach brother! My methodology is not upgrading until the computer gets in the way of doing work. If it's laggy making things or editing, that's a problem. Renders and encoding are what they are, for the most part, a few extra minutes aren't the end of the world. I have a base spec M1 Max 16", I was shocked how it replaced an iMac Pro with 128 GB of RAM.
Damn, can’t wait for that video
thanks for the advice. really feel confident now about my future MacBook purchases liked and subscribed.
It would be great to see a comparison of the 14 core vs 16 core M3 Max, I can't seen to find any!
I totally concur with you!
I was a lifelong Windows user from Windows 95 on… I used Windows 3.1 sporadically. I switched to MacOS in 2015 with a 5K iMac and i will never go back to Windows. Compared to MacOS, Windows is bloatware and a troubleshooting pain in the ass…. I got so sick of it. I am not a creator, so i dont need anything close to an M3 MAX laptop, however i upgraded to an M2 MacBook Air (16 GB) in the summer and it’s fantastic. I’ll get 2 or 3 years use out of it then hand it down to my son who will be going to University.
Ha the fact your business partner doesn’t look that old, does that mean I’m old 😂
Any chance the followup video is still coming?
There is little performance gain (time) for a costly new M3 laptop. Thanks for the test, buddy! Appreciate it. I think this is best for someone who has a MacBook Pro 2015 version and wants a new laptop. 2015 still kick ass!
Thanks for the down-to-earth honest review. I have an older 2017 27” iMac i7 that is a 4.2Ghz 4-core CPU. Should I get a M2 Max or M3 Max? Is 36GB RAM sufficient for having Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign and Blender open and a few web browsers all at once?
THX!!!! You save me money!!! I was reddy to order new M3 Max 64GB / 8TB!!!!!
You are part of why I now just have a Mac.
That’s cool that the M1 is all you needed, what were the specs for the m1? Eg memory etc?
Hi! Thank you the review. What is the size of RAM in your M1 PRO machine? Is it worth today to buy Macbook pro 14'' M1 PRO 16\512?
Ive got a 2019 intel iMac with a cracked screen. I think it's time to upgrade.
This the video i been waiting for, real and to the point. Most reviews are just people saying get it because of this and future proof that, which they say with everything and never even use it for more than half the stuff the talk about.
Same here, windows user converted to Mac. BUT what I want to know is why a career creator like yourself is sticking to a 14 inch and not the 16 incher? Wouldn't the extra screen real estate improve your editing experience? Can u make a video about that? Much appreciated.
Probably because he uses his two 4K monitors when doing major edits most of the time.
Mobility, he has 2 huge monitors for his heavy work loads
I am in your exact position except I bought the M1 Max two years ago. I find myself wondering if the M3 Max is enough of an upgrade. After watching this video, I think I’ll wait. Thank you Sub +1. Also I will be watching for videos from your partner. Should be fun.
You're right about there being nothing wrong with using refurbished machine or older-ish computers. However, I don't think most modern machines have an issue playing back normal footage. Many wedding video and other video editors in general, use stuff like denoise or other effects on the clips. When you add those, it significantly slows playback down, almost to the point of stopping in some cases, and significantly exports down. Next time you do a comparison like this, can you please include difficult footage? I know you're not Linus, so if not, NBD, I'll still watch, but I think it would be a more fair comparison.
The two tests I did were replicas of what I do every single day. I do plan on more complex tests when I get back next week