Yesterday I've also taken test ride of scrambler 400x, best in the segment, simpler look, nice performance. And I've tried adv390 too, it's so much annoying in traffic jam. Very honest review you've done. Thanks
Bro with 600 subscribers has destroyed every media house and famous youtubers in one go. Truly you nailed it. Without showing any bike just speaking pure information and real life concerns. Thanks for clearing out every fuss around him450.
Thank you so much 😀 Comments like yours encourage me to speak about bikes with respect to real life issues. RE fanboys have been roasting me in this comment section 😂
I am an English man, 73 years old, always on bikes. I live in Milan and have just 200km on my new Scrambler 400. The most impressive bike I have ever owned. EVER.
Can you ride on gravel roads, crossing streams, muddy roads or generally urban roads ? After watching this vid, i am really intereseted in this machine. I often go to camping , and also on highway .
Finally somone who has given an honest review .Honestly I don't know how anyone can buy an RE bike ..It's just a union of ugly bike parts , unrefined heavy fatso and expensive .And talk of design of any RE bike and you would want to send the RE designer to the gallows . It's probably a plumber doubling up as a designer .
It takes balls to come out and speak so honestly about brands whose loyal fan base can literally troll the F out of you but kudos to you for putting across such practical points with such honesty.
This was the review i was expecting, i had the same issues while i went for test ride for Himalayan and i was thinking, the older Himalayan is so much better than this unrefined machine. I was shocked to see why no one was talking about this. Hatts off to your honesty!!!
Thanks to the algorithm for recommending this. Even without using a single image or a video snippet, you completely explained your TD experience, highlighting all the minuscule details that will help buyers fixate on a particular motorcycle. Subbed! Cheers!
Unbiased and Real original review ❤ you just destroyed the so called auto journalist urf bikau media as hell 😅 Triumph scrambler 400x is new love for bikers ❤🎉
I test rode a 400X and ordered one the moment I got back to the dealer. Here in the UK there is a waiting list for the 400X so my bike will be with me in 16 weeks. Baja might ask some workers to put in a bit of overtime and speed up UK deliveries - it's going to be very popular with we British.
Personally think that the new Himmy is overhyped. The mechanical clunky noise of the engine/tapets while not a problem as such, is a huge put off from one of the world’s biggest bike makers. All the points you mentioned were are valid and played into me leaning towards the scrambler 400x too. Good video. Subbed.
Bro you are under rated. You have addressed all the points which a new buyer would face and perfectly explained those. Its very hard to find a genuine review these day as mostly are paid or marketing gimmick. I have test rode both both Himalayan 450 and Scram 400 and found out the scram's engine to be far more refined and with that low end torque there is no comparison with the new himalayan 450. I dont how all people are praising the new Himalayan 450 so much.
Thank you 🙂 Appreciate the feedback. I hope RE improves these issues in the upcoming versions of Himalayan 450 as they did with Himalayan BS6. As of today, Scrambler runs butter smooth especially after the 1st service
I am so glad that you made this video. Everything you said about the Himalayan 450 is on point. The first time I test rode it, I instantly felt like riding a KTM 390. I believe all us 411 owners have found new respect for our bikes after this 450 launch. It isn’t worth the hype nor the money. I am keeping my 411.
O man what a comparison. I just loved it . This is the first video i am feeling like interactive . I think everyone should learn from you how the videos and blogs should be ❤
Excellent review!...the best I've seen yet. I greatly appreciate your detailed and very honest review of the Himalayan 450. I eliminated this bike from consideration and now your review validates my decision and even provides several more negatives that I hadn't discovered...lagging throttle response, unrefined engine noise, and poor low end torque. I hate bikes with no low end torque...forever down-shifting all day. I am waiting for the Triumph to arrive in Ecuador and I'm also keeping my eyes open for new bikes that will be coming into the 400cc niche. I also enjoyed what you explained about your Himalayan 411. I think I'm developing an appreciation for the standard RE engines. I have always considered them old technology and clunky but I think their emphasis has always been about torque. I watched a video the other day of a British fellow riding his RE out in the country on a nice paved lane. The bike was smoothly gliding along at low RPM with tons of torque. Maybe It's time to try one.
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Yes the older RE motorcycles are all about good torque that’s excellent for trail riding and highway cruising 😄 luckily the new triumph has captured that character beautifully and delivers it in a modern way
Congratulations on the new purchase. I also cancelled my Himalyan booking and purchased scrambler 400x because of how well and refined triumph scrambler is.
Hey Abhi, I test drove the Himalayan today and incidentally your video popped up on TH-cam. Agree with many of your honest opinions. If you remember, we met at Asad's training and I was on the GSA. I have a 2020 390 Adv and yes, it has vibration and I think it's less than the older Himalayan. Maybe the test drive machine is highly abused. And yes, the 390 adv lower end torque is not that good and we need to engage the clutch in order to juice it out. Your review points are very good and I think RE is spending a lot to create the buzz around the Himalayan. Keep it up.
Hey Sanu, I hope you are doing well. It's been a long time. Thank you for watching the video. I hope RE improves the quality and refinement of the Himalayan because it's a promising machine with many places for improvement. And I'm waiting for the 2025 ADV 390 which is highly anticipated and I think will be a worthy upgrade to my existing Himalayan. 🙂 Fingers crossed 😁
What a great review. No vomiting spec sheet numbers like all other youtubers. You described the feel, purpose and the nature of all 3 bikes in their practical application. Loved it. Please do more of these.
I had a long day test riding ktm Adv then Harley, Him450 and ended up booking the Triumph Scram… must say I can relate to extend on whatever you said!!! Scrambler seems to be priced so well for the quality and make!! I’m waiting for the delivery 🎊
As an owner of KTM Adventure you are right. It is a sports bike under ADV clothing. Best way to describe it. Nimble and crazy performance. It is planted in corners and overall an engaging motorcycle. If someone likes to just cruise and relax this is not the right bike. I mean, you can ride it slow but the bike will protest and cry to be ridden fast. Vibrations are definitely there but they are not crazy. Higher RPMs smoothens everything. 390 ADV is fairly light, so you have confidence while off-roading that you can pick up the bike. I dropped mine in wet clay like sand. I could barely stand yet I was able to lift the bike up. If it was Himalayan I doubt I would have been able to pick it up. Good choice on the 400X. Seems like a great bike.
Awesome review and oversight man 🎉. I would suggest getting the fly screen from the triumph 's accessories catalog itself. Reason: 1. retains scrambler looks and helps wind buffering so much that you can easily cruise at 120-130kmph. 2. All the triumph accessories come with a 2 year warranty as well. Coming to two suggestions : 1. if you feel any vibrations post 100-120. Then after your own research but do try 'uniglide FRC engine oil additive'. 25ml/L of engine oil. Triumph consumes 2L of engine oil and uses the 50ml bottle of this. Add this only while doing an engine oil change not at topups. You will feel vibes coming down hell lot and vibrations are not negligible till 120-130 now that too at constant cruising. Gears shifts will be extra buttery smooth. 2. For summers use Engine Ice coolant very effective for bigger capacity engines helps to keep the temp. down a lot. 3. As triumph have collaborated with HP for their consumables so they HP's pro-lube engine oil not sure about its smoothness, as I am using motul 10w50 fully synthetic engine oil. Not all service centres will allow you to use other brands other than what they have been told but I have my way at my hometown triumph. 4. Try to stick will triumph accessories as much as can be, with whatever they have. I have done the same. The only non-triumph accessories I went with are: A. Barkbusters from lazyaasbikers, the same Himalayan or ktm fits this too. B. Zana fork sliders C. Carbon racing side stand extender Rest all are from Triumph accessories catalog one. That's what I have done with my triumph scr400x as well.
I really appreciate the detailed response 🥹 Thank you so much for the heads up. 1. I was quite sceptical about the visor provided by triumph because it looked too small to provide any kind of wind protection but I’ll definitely give it to a try. 2. Even I want to use an aftermarket engine oil and coolant as I do with my Himalayan but I’m very scared of losing the warranty 😅 The folks here are very strict about it. So I’m thinking maybe from the 2nd service onwards I’ll do the manual oil and coolant change. I also heard triumph doesn’t sell oil filters n all to customers who wish to do it themselves. 3. Yes I’m planning to get maximum accessories from triumph only. The only after market ones I’ll get are a small top box and handle bar risers.
If you are KTM lover…go for 390 Adv X. Having it since July 23 n completed 8 k kms happily on it. Else go for Triumph Scrambler X as its a beautiful machine having all…n just forget the heavy one left in the lot!
I have ridden my Adventure 390 for 22k kms. Trust me, the are no vibes except arount 4.5k rpm. If you spec it up fuelx and Motorex engine oil, it becomes butter smooth.
I own a 2021 KTM 390 Adventure and a 2017 Royal Enfield Bullet 500, both based in Bangalore. I've explored Ladakh on both bikes, Nepal's Lower Mustang on the Bullet, and the Rann of Kutchh on the Adventure. While I enjoy both, the 390 excels at long-distance, high-speed riding and handles rough terrain confidently. The Bullet is perfect for leisurely rides on winding roads. I test-rode the Himalayan 450 and Scrambler 400X, and the Scrambler immediately stood out because of the way it handles, it feels light, nimble and very easy to ride. However, after couple of months later again test ride on Scrambler while returning from a short ride on my adv. I realized the 390's power, braking, and wind protection were invaluable. Despite this, the Scrambler still appeals as a potential third bike. My latest test ride, the Shotgun 650, was incredibly impressive with its power, torque, weight, and braking. I’m now leaning towards the Shotgun as my third motorcycle🤞
Typing this in the middle of the video at 4:54 , my dear friend owns 390x and that bike doesn’t feel planted as you have mentioned, it’s very uncomfortable to put down her neck whenever you open the throttle and its very wavy on high speed overtakes! Feels like it will bump you into something.
@@AbhishekDaniel Absolutely the 310gs is less powdered and low on features compared to the other three. But if you consider looks, suspension, comforts, brand value...I believe the GS tops among the others. What are your thoughts on that?
@@SK27_VLOGS I'm not sure. I haven't taken test ride of GS 310 so I cannot comment on the comfort. Brand value is useless as its parts and service is from TVS. And I've heard from users that service is unnecessarily expensive when compared to the same platforms like the RR 310 and not of good quality.
Super review bro.. I am planning to upgrade from Karizma R with 1lac odo but confused between Adv X & Scrambler X .. scrambler X is ticking all boxes apart from tank size n majorly small seat.. please suggest how comfortable it is for pillion n some time my kiddo seats between for very sort spin around nearby locality.. my purpose is both city + long ride & i daily commute to office via silk board so need low end torque for which I doubt adv X n it may be difficult to manoeuvre
Seat comfort is very good on the scrambler 400. It’s almost as good as my Himalayan touring seat. Pillion seat is a little tilted so pillion tends to slide forward while braking but it’s not a big issue. Get a small top box so that it acts as a backrest for the pillion. For city commute and highway comfort, Scram beats ADV X in every way
Seat comfort is very good. Similar to my Himalayan 411. Although it's a bit slanted forward so the pillion tends to slide forward during hard braking. It's not a deal breaker though.
I do touring with pillion all the time. The only purpose I will be buying a new bike will be for touring. I already own a TVS Ronin, which has been performing excellently and no issues as such. Thinking of an upgrade now Which bike will suit my case here? I was leaning towards the 390x, as I am unsure about the pillion comfort on the Scrambler 440x. Thoughts? Great Video btw.
Hello brother ! First of all great review !! I wanted to know how will scramble 400x perform in city commute ? I’m confused between triumph scramble 400x and RE GUERRILA 450
Scrambler is very easy to manoeuvre in city commute. Scrambler and Guerilla are very two different types of motorcycles with two different use case scenarios. You should compare guerilla with speed 400 and test ride both.
@@AbhishekDaniel speed 400 seems very small and not so comfortable for the pillion also , I was earlier using suzuki vstorm , found it very difficult to manoeuvre in the city traffic here in Chennai .
KTM Adv x Rider here, the midrange vibration i haven't seen but have heard more people complain about it, so it's probably bike specific issue, and yes, the mind-blowing gut punch speed is my reason to get that beauty!
Man U are wonder full the way u choose to speak real facts and kill all the fuss about 450 hats off great work man it’s all the money which is talking about 450 the way u explained 390 and scram honestly wow
You have busted the hype associated with 450 Himalayan and KTM Adv. Truly appreciate your unbiased review which resonate with Bulu Patnaik's views on these bikes. This is a must watch video for bike hunters in this segment. For your 5.6 Ft frame, you should have preferred Triumph Speed 400 over the scrambler and would like your opinion on this
Thank you for your feedback 🙂 Rider height and ridability is a common misconception. You don't need to have planted foot on a motorcycle especially if the bike itself is quite easy to handle. You just need to skill up and it's an easily acquirable skill. Off road training helps. Speed 400 is too small for my liking. My friend even though she's 5.4 feet, handles the scrambler quite well. It just took her a week to get used to it. In fact, I found the Scrambler much easier to handle than my Himalayan 411 even with a 35mm increase in the seat height because of its light weight and design.
@AbhishekDaniel Some how I feel that if one can flat foot it would be far more confident to ride over any terrains . I wish Triumph could provide provisions for lowering the seat and a main stand.
@@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429 I'd recommend you under go off road training. In Banglore you have Magnum Motorsports and BigRock Dirtpark offering great courses. Once you get trained, you'll come to know that having flat foot is a complete misconception. You'll be confident to ride any tall bikes through any terrain after training.
@AbhishekDaniel Have been riding bikes @12 years age when I could barely tip toe I can ride higher seating position bikes but would be much more comfortable in bikes where I could flat foot. I wish to know why you preferred Scrambler over Speed having the same engine configuration with lesser weight and lower seat height 😕
@@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429 Bro I also have been riding bikes since the age of 14. That doesn't mean I will be naturally good at it. Driving schools just teach you to do an 8 because that's all you need to get a licence. But I learned a hell lot more about body balancing, clutch and throttle control etc, when I went for off road training 3 years back. I learned it from the experts and professionals., That's when you realise that what we've been used to for decades are totally wrong and there are better ways to ride a motorcycle. You need to unlearn years of what you are used to so that you can learn and acquire a new set of skills. The same goes for the notion of planted foot and confidence. Coming to the bikes, speed is too small and limited in terms of its touring and off road capabilities. Scrambler can do much more than speed. The ergonomics, suspension, handling, ground clearance etc are much better on the scrambler making it an overall better and capable bike than the Speed. Seat height is never an issue for me if the bike is easier to handle. My 1975 bullet 350 was lighter and had lower seat height (around 790mm). But that was more difficult to handle than the KTM 390 ADV which has 850mm seat. Overall handling capacity of the bike matters.
The exact video i was looking for, great content man. You saved me hours of watchtime on youtube for review videos, keep up the good work dude! Very underrated youtuber, you earned a sub! ❤
Nice review. I own the himalayan 450 and I have done 2000 kms on it. I was about to buy the ktm adv 390 but was cheesed off with the attitude of the ktm staff at the dealership. Faced no issues with the himalayan so far except you have to manage the weight when the bike is static. I did a tubless conversion for touring and just love the engine, it's amazing. What I realised is just go with the bike you connect with :) there is no perfect, flawless bike out there. Happy riding y'all.
Well said. None of these bikes are inherently bad. It's just that it fits differently for different use case scenarios and I wanted to share mine so that someone similar to me may find it useful 🙂
No hima 450 here yet in Germany. Rode the first Street 400 in DE today. Awesome bike, all you say is true about the engine refinement and power but as limited for first 1000 km the usability in town is horrible. Will try the x400 in may. Seat height is annoying disadvantage
Ok, here i go on why himalayan is actually more value for money 1. Linear throttle response is actually good, jumpy throttle is the main reason i'm not buying triumph, i test rode the triumph and it felt too jumpy, the engine doesn't behave like you expect it to, jumpy is not what you need, imagine you're in traffic or in off road and you twist your throttle a little bit and the bike jumps. Linear throttle of himalayan is very good and it accelerates very quickly, it's not just fast, it's very quick, compare it to 400x or 390 adv side by side drag race or see any videos and see the difference. 2. Suspension, it's not even close himalayan suspension is so so much better than triumph and adv 390 3. Breaking is also excellent, specially the back break it's very good. 4. Engine I don't know what refinement we are talking about here, 400x and adv 390 both vibrate like crazy as well, 400x a little less so than himalayan, but if it's just the tapet noise i'm not really sure 5. Accessories now coming to these, RE has launched all of them and they'll be available, on top of that himalayan is most likely to have the best accessories/ cheapest accessories out of all of them from 3rd party vendors 6. Repair network, say you are travelling somewhere and your bike broke down, RE service centers are available everywhere in india. 7. Low end is significantly better than ktm 390, it's not quite as good as triumph, haven't felt it as a significant issue when test riding 8. Gearbox is butter smooth 9. Instrument cluster is significantly better than anything in it's price range tubeless tyres is a very valid point and RE is digging itself a grave by not providing them at the time of launch or not announcing a coming date and price, this is a very valid point for preferring 400x but rest all seems like justifications you're trying to make for the purchase.
@@Military_heros_World all are good, test ride and buy the one you like the most, for regular uses I'd still say triumph but this video is super misleading it portrays Himalayan as a super bad bike which it is not
Did you consider dominar 400 at any point in time? Or you wanted more of an off-road capability? I tested all 3 - Himalayan 450, scrambler 400x and the dominar 400 - if you're ok with the design and lesser adventure capability but more of a tourer, I felt dominar 400 was the most comfortable for someone of my height (166cm).. also felt there was so much said about the discomfort in city commute, and surprisingly, I found it very easy to manage if you know where the power kicks in. And it costs the least of them all!
I have ridden and used my friend’s Dominar for a week. Good motorcycle but not great for off road. That’s why I didn’t consider it. I’m not a fan of street or race bikes. I look for ADV or Scrambler ones which can do a good amount of off road as well.
Good review. I am also in lookout for a bike, but my need is pillion should be comfortable too. I understand you selected the scrambler but among these 3, which one do you think will be best for pillion comfort and fully loaded touring. I think both KTM and Himalayan 450 lacks low end torque I currently don't have a bike, and as most of us Indian, it will be my only bike.
Bro even I have been confused between Himalayan and Scrambler. I have to buy purely for touring with a pillion as I already have a scooty for city commute. I have test rode both of them and both felt good but when riding above 80 I felt Himalayan was much more effortless than the Scrambler. What do you suggest ?
Your review covered everything that any potential owner would like to know. I've seen channels where the technicalities are discussed to no end, but none of them capture the rider's experience - you managed to expand upon this beautifully. I wish you all the very best, do keep up the good work.
I have has a KTM 390 Adventure for nearly two years. I have no trouble with vibrations. I agree it doesn't have the low end torque that is best for off road riding.
Bro very good detailed video on comparison. I am planning to buy KTM 390 Adventure Standard but after watching this video I am confused. Will surely take test ride of Scrambler. Can you please also let me know how much the service cost of Scrambler. Also, we can able to fit top box over it or not?
Service cost is decent. First service cost around 2.2k. Parts are also cheap. The overall service cost is same as my Himalayan. Regarding top box, I’ve made a video on accessories for the Scrambler. Kindly check that out.
I'm returning to riding but I now live in a mountainous twisty road kind of place, and we are not short on gravelly or wet patches, often with sheer drops near by just in case you get it wrong :). I have got my choice down to the same three bikes as you, and like you I'm pretty sure I'm going to want that Triumph for the same reasons. The only problem is that the gravel and wet stuff is new and currently bit of a worry for me, and I was thinking that the KTM cornering ABS and traction control could give me more confidence and safety than what is on the Triumph. Do you think in my situation that I am correct or am I concerned unnecessarily? Any advice much appreciated, thanks.
Cornering ABS and traction control are more for on road purpose. While on gravel, you need to switch off both these for KTM as well as Triumph. The best thing you can do for safety is to skill up. Attend a level 1 off road training from a school near you and you’ll gain a ton of confidence.
@@AbhishekDaniel Thanks for your advice on that. It is actually on road where I will be riding, it’s just that water from the mountainside, mud or gravel from repairs can suddenly appear around the next bend and you have no choice but to go through it. I do go slow just in case, but it is a little too slow for the people on 4 wheels so I need to train as you advise. Since training is so far away for me I will need to push things a little myself to get better, and it is in this regard, say when I am cornering on good road but find a little mud , that I was hoping cornering ABS might help me out?
@@robertYTB78g Cornering ABS will be a counterintuitive thing on gravel. Be it slush or sand on the road. It'll increase stopping distance and cut the throttle input for quick manoeuvres. It's more useful on track and highways. For your case scenario, I would still recommend training to skill up on braking, throttle and clutch finese and body balancing which will be way useful than ABS or MTC.
I do agree brother. How beautifully u explained . I too took test frive for himalyan 450 n then trium scram n bought my Triump sram . It is so so so beautiful… n i dont need to explain more as u alrrady dis… i had interceptor earlier… but trium scram is far far far better than RE.
Brilliant summary... Thank you for the honest feedback! Love your perspective. Question: If you are more used to the old Himalayan, then wouldn't the KTM ADV 250 be closer in torque and power to your current ride? It would be more efficient too! Did you think about it? In my opinion, cubic capacity is just a measure that is somehow proportional only to the fuel efficiency of the engine and nothing else really.
Hi Abhishek, Subcribed from Bangalore! Awesome summary! Great content which I was looking for. Need your valuable suggestion for my next bike purchase: A short background of my rides and query: Kinetic Boss - 2002 - 2005 (3 Yrs) Upgraded to HH Karizma - 2005 - 2014 (9 Yrs) Downgraded to Suzuki Gixxer 150 - 2014 - 2021 (7 Yrs) Further downgraded to Honda Activa Pre Owned - 2021 - Till date. Bought Active for family errands. But I miss bikes. I want to go for a good bike 400 CC +. So, A new 400 cc or used RE 650 for the same price? Use is for casual office commutes and touring once a month or 2. The main purpose at this age (37+) is to enjoy the bike even at slow speeds. Gone are my days of thrill, adrenaline rush, and top speeds. Want to connect to the bike and feel it? (I sound kiddish) I love all the machines I have owned. Would keep this and maybe become a collector. I am open to used bikes as well. Thanks in advance !!!
I strongly recommend you to test ride the 400s and the 650s. Make a list of the available ones, pick a day and test ride. Go with the one which makes you happy. You’ll definitely feel connected to the bike that fits your needs well
I'm in the same confusion right now, I also took test drives of all 3 bikes and I feel the same! Thanks for the honest opinion on the Himalayan 450 and things no one is talking about specially big youtubers!
70:30 high speed highway and off-road, Adv would be best. KTM's service is far better than RE. Spare quality is better than RE. RE has better low end. It is 50:50. Off-road and highway tour. But definitely not as good as Adv 390 (on the highway). Adv 390 throttle response and gear box is best in the segment. Precise shift and throttle response. Made for each other. Adv's ergo is definitely good (both for pillion and rider). 450 is absolutely beautiful off-road machine. Suspension, wheel size, GC everything is perfect. Its all about priorities. My priority would be 70:30. So i prefer adv 390.
Well said 😀 All 3 motorcycles are good and have strong points. It's just that it fits differently for different people based on their use case scenarios.
i am a owner of scrambler 400x had the same experience u explained it really well, had the same feeling while test driving the vehicle and just a few days back had my first accident, fortunately i did not get hurt but the build quality of the scrambler is amazing i thought it was going to be in a very bad shape after the accident but i was shocked to see there was no major damage to the bike only slight bent in the handle bar and gear shifter was damaged shocked to see that the plastic handle guards did not break they look like some cheap plastic handle guards but they took the whole impact really well. The service from the showroom is also amazing they were really supportive and friendly. i had gone to the khivraj triumph showroom in electronic city very friendly experience. They never discriminated between me and the other guys with bigger bikes. that was one of the thing i was a bit worried about in the start that they will not treat us on equal grounds with the bigger bike owners but completely changed my opinion after the accident.
Happy to hear your experience with the bike. I too went to Khivraj in Whitefield and they dealt with the service exceptionally well. I had gone to Keerthi in Lalbagh to get the crash guard fixed and boy it's true what everyone says about Keerthi😅And my suggestion would be to break in the bike very slowly. I coming from the Himalayan had a tough time learning how to control the Scrambler because of its power and quick throttle response. It's addictive and exciting but also dangerous. Allow yourself to skill up well before you experience the bike's full potential. That way you can avoid future mishaps. Use good riding gears too. Ride safe 🙂
I test rode both the Himalayan 450 and Scrambler 400x. I agree with every point discussed here. The throttle response on the Himalayan is very laggy, the fit and finish doesn’t feel good and overall the bike didn’t feel very refined. I went ahead and booked the Scrambler 400x the very next day as it was perfect for my needs.
I love that bike. But because of its limited off road capability, I didn’t buy it. And I’ve heard from users that it struggles in high altitudes like Ladakh.
@@AbhishekDaniel I have a plan to buy a motorcycle. Max budget 4.5L. My purpose is to just travel with pillion 80%. Travel is mostly on highway and avg roads. No off road. Maybe under some unfortunate circumstances. Pillion comfort is must. Which bike you prefer? I have few in mind. 1. Meteor 350 (Scared of their service, but i have a good local mechanic friend) 2. Triumph scrambler 400x (For its exhaust) 3. Hness 4. Vstrom 250 5. KTM 390 ADV (they are coming up with new model next year. So last choice) 6. Any other model, you prefer.
@@kabilanravi884 I haven’t test ridden any other bike other than the ones mentioned in the video 😅 so I’m sorry I won’t be able to recommend anything to you for your use case scenario. I’m more of an off road person so i know only about ADVs and Scramblers since I ride them all the time. I think it’s better if you test ride your choices. Test rides will help you decide.
Yesterday I've also taken test ride of scrambler 400x, best in the segment, simpler look, nice performance. And I've tried adv390 too, it's so much annoying in traffic jam.
Very honest review you've done. Thanks
Thank you 🙂
Bro with 600 subscribers has destroyed every media house and famous youtubers in one go. Truly you nailed it. Without showing any bike just speaking pure information and real life concerns. Thanks for clearing out every fuss around him450.
Thank you so much 😀 Comments like yours encourage me to speak about bikes with respect to real life issues. RE fanboys have been roasting me in this comment section 😂
Yes it's really a great review ✨👌
@@shivaprasadtj9969 Thank you 🙂
@@AbhishekDaniel looking forward for your ownership review after 1-2 k kms
@@shivaprasadtj9969 Will definitely upload 🙂
I am an English man, 73 years old, always on bikes. I live in Milan and have just 200km on my new Scrambler 400. The most impressive bike I have ever owned. EVER.
Congrats 😀 Happy riding 😎
Awwwww 😍😍😍
Can you ride on gravel roads, crossing streams, muddy roads or generally urban roads ? After watching this vid, i am really intereseted in this machine. I often go to camping , and also on highway .
@@ROTANETA Yep. The scrambler can do it all with ease.
I'll be 73 in four months. I want one.
Very good decision, really liked that you know what exactly u want.
OMG! I can't believe you commented 😃 Thank you so much. Your videos have helped me a lot☺ Thank you for inspiring
@@AbhishekDanielha ha cheers buddy, many Many congratulations for the new bike, I m sure u will enjoy it.
@@BuluBiker Thank you so much. Means a lot coming from you. Congrats on the Honda NX500! Really enjoying your videos on it 😀
Finally somone who has given an honest review .Honestly I don't know how anyone can buy an RE bike ..It's just a union of ugly bike parts , unrefined heavy fatso and expensive .And talk of design of any RE bike and you would want to send the RE designer to the gallows . It's probably a plumber doubling up as a designer .
So brutal 🤣 Take a chill pill bro 😂
It takes balls to come out and speak so honestly about brands whose loyal fan base can literally troll the F out of you but kudos to you for putting across such practical points with such honesty.
Thank you 🙂
This was the review i was expecting, i had the same issues while i went for test ride for Himalayan and i was thinking, the older Himalayan is so much better than this unrefined machine. I was shocked to see why no one was talking about this. Hatts off to your honesty!!!
Thank you. Glad you liked it 🙂
Thanks to the algorithm for recommending this.
Even without using a single image or a video snippet, you completely explained your TD experience, highlighting all the minuscule details that will help buyers fixate on a particular motorcycle.
Subbed! Cheers!
Thank you 😄
Unbiased and Real original review ❤
you just destroyed the so called auto journalist urf bikau media as hell 😅
Triumph scrambler 400x is new love for bikers ❤🎉
Thank you 😄
I test rode a 400X and ordered one the moment I got back to the dealer. Here in the UK there is a waiting list for the 400X so my bike will be with me in 16 weeks. Baja might ask some workers to put in a bit of overtime and speed up UK deliveries - it's going to be very popular with we British.
Good choice! We wish we had the option to at least test ride the scrambler 1200 xe 😅
Personally think that the new Himmy is overhyped. The mechanical clunky noise of the engine/tapets while not a problem as such, is a huge put off from one of the world’s biggest bike makers. All the points you mentioned were are valid and played into me leaning towards the scrambler 400x too.
Good video. Subbed.
Thank you 🙂
All these three are on my list. Was confused, thank you for clearing.
You're welcome 🙂
Bro you are under rated. You have addressed all the points which a new buyer would face and perfectly explained those. Its very hard to find a genuine review these day as mostly are paid or marketing gimmick. I have test rode both both Himalayan 450 and Scram 400 and found out the scram's engine to be far more refined and with that low end torque there is no comparison with the new himalayan 450. I dont how all people are praising the new Himalayan 450 so much.
Thank you 🙂 Appreciate the feedback. I hope RE improves these issues in the upcoming versions of Himalayan 450 as they did with Himalayan BS6. As of today, Scrambler runs butter smooth especially after the 1st service
I am so glad that you made this video. Everything you said about the Himalayan 450 is on point. The first time I test rode it, I instantly felt like riding a KTM 390. I believe all us 411 owners have found new respect for our bikes after this 450 launch. It isn’t worth the hype nor the money. I am keeping my 411.
Glad that nothing could replace our OG Himalayans ☺️
The ability of this gentleman to comprehensively summarise all points is amazing. definitely deserves more subs
Thank you 🙂
O man what a comparison. I just loved it . This is the first video i am feeling like interactive . I think everyone should learn from you how the videos and blogs should be ❤
Thanks a lot ☺
Bought the Scrambler, I just love the way it looks and the riding experience.
Good choice! Happy riding 🙂
This guy silenced all the paid reviewers! Awesome effort Abhishek. Subbed!
Thank you 🙂
Excellent review!...the best I've seen yet. I greatly appreciate your detailed and very honest review of the Himalayan 450. I eliminated this bike from consideration and now your review validates my decision and even provides several more negatives that I hadn't discovered...lagging throttle response, unrefined engine noise, and poor low end torque. I hate bikes with no low end torque...forever down-shifting all day. I am waiting for the Triumph to arrive in Ecuador and I'm also keeping my eyes open for new bikes that will be coming into the 400cc niche. I also enjoyed what you explained about your Himalayan 411. I think I'm developing an appreciation for the standard RE engines. I have always considered them old technology and clunky but I think their emphasis has always been about torque. I watched a video the other day of a British fellow riding his RE out in the country on a nice paved lane. The bike was smoothly gliding along at low RPM with tons of torque. Maybe It's time to try one.
Thanks a lot for your feedback. Yes the older RE motorcycles are all about good torque that’s excellent for trail riding and highway cruising 😄 luckily the new triumph has captured that character beautifully and delivers it in a modern way
Your happiness of owning the Scrambler 400x is very much visible on your face... Thanks for sharing your experiences in detail...
Thank you 🙂 The happiness is grown even more now. Will share my 5k km review soon
@@AbhishekDaniel I am planning to get it next year. Waiting for your 5k km review.
@@sundip9180 will upload soon
Congratulations on the new purchase. I also cancelled my Himalyan booking and purchased scrambler 400x because of how well and refined triumph scrambler is.
Good choice. Happy riding 😊
Hey Abhi, I test drove the Himalayan today and incidentally your video popped up on TH-cam. Agree with many of your honest opinions. If you remember, we met at Asad's training and I was on the GSA. I have a 2020 390 Adv and yes, it has vibration and I think it's less than the older Himalayan. Maybe the test drive machine is highly abused. And yes, the 390 adv lower end torque is not that good and we need to engage the clutch in order to juice it out. Your review points are very good and I think RE is spending a lot to create the buzz around the Himalayan. Keep it up.
Hey Sanu, I hope you are doing well. It's been a long time. Thank you for watching the video. I hope RE improves the quality and refinement of the Himalayan because it's a promising machine with many places for improvement. And I'm waiting for the 2025 ADV 390 which is highly anticipated and I think will be a worthy upgrade to my existing Himalayan. 🙂 Fingers crossed 😁
What a great review. No vomiting spec sheet numbers like all other youtubers. You described the feel, purpose and the nature of all 3 bikes in their practical application. Loved it. Please do more of these.
Thank you 🙂
I had a long day test riding ktm Adv then Harley, Him450 and ended up booking the Triumph Scram… must say I can relate to extend on whatever you said!!!
Scrambler seems to be priced so well for the quality and make!! I’m waiting for the delivery 🎊
Congrats. Happy riding 🙂
Ty bro. Proud to be an owner of scrambler 400x.
As an owner of KTM Adventure you are right. It is a sports bike under ADV clothing. Best way to describe it.
Nimble and crazy performance. It is planted in corners and overall an engaging motorcycle.
If someone likes to just cruise and relax this is not the right bike. I mean, you can ride it slow but the bike will protest and cry to be ridden fast.
Vibrations are definitely there but they are not crazy. Higher RPMs smoothens everything.
390 ADV is fairly light, so you have confidence while off-roading that you can pick up the bike. I dropped mine in wet clay like sand. I could barely stand yet I was able to lift the bike up. If it was Himalayan I doubt I would have been able to pick it up.
Good choice on the 400X. Seems like a great bike.
Thanks for your feedback 🙂
I had gone through the same phase couple of months ago and I too chose the Scrambler.. but the matte green one..
Good choice 🙂 happy riding
You deserve more love and attention for your detailed comparo!! You earned my Like! Keep Growing!
Thank you 🙂
Upgraded to scram400x from honda unicorn scram is not for daily commute . only using for long rides every time riding the bike makes me happy
Awesome review and oversight man 🎉.
I would suggest getting the fly screen from the triumph 's accessories catalog itself.
Reason: 1. retains scrambler looks and helps wind buffering so much that you can easily cruise at 120-130kmph.
2. All the triumph accessories come with a 2 year warranty as well.
Coming to two suggestions :
1. if you feel any vibrations post 100-120. Then after your own research but do try 'uniglide FRC engine oil additive'.
25ml/L of engine oil. Triumph consumes 2L of engine oil and uses the 50ml bottle of this. Add this only while doing an engine oil change not at topups.
You will feel vibes coming down hell lot and vibrations are not negligible till 120-130 now that too at constant cruising. Gears shifts will be extra buttery smooth.
2. For summers use Engine Ice coolant very effective for bigger capacity engines helps to keep the temp. down a lot.
3. As triumph have collaborated with HP for their consumables so they HP's pro-lube engine oil not sure about its smoothness, as I am using motul 10w50 fully synthetic engine oil.
Not all service centres will allow you to use other brands other than what they have been told but I have my way at my hometown triumph.
4. Try to stick will triumph accessories as much as can be, with whatever they have. I have done the same. The only non-triumph accessories I went with are:
A. Barkbusters from lazyaasbikers, the same Himalayan or ktm fits this too.
B. Zana fork sliders
C. Carbon racing side stand extender
Rest all are from Triumph accessories catalog one.
That's what I have done with my triumph scr400x as well.
I really appreciate the detailed response 🥹 Thank you so much for the heads up.
1. I was quite sceptical about the visor provided by triumph because it looked too small to provide any kind of wind protection but I’ll definitely give it to a try.
2. Even I want to use an aftermarket engine oil and coolant as I do with my Himalayan but I’m very scared of losing the warranty 😅 The folks here are very strict about it. So I’m thinking maybe from the 2nd service onwards I’ll do the manual oil and coolant change. I also heard triumph doesn’t sell oil filters n all to customers who wish to do it themselves.
3. Yes I’m planning to get maximum accessories from triumph only. The only after market ones I’ll get are a small top box and handle bar risers.
Man!
Great video dude!
The clarity if so on point!
Thank you 🙂
If you are KTM lover…go for 390 Adv X. Having it since July 23 n completed 8 k kms happily on it. Else go for Triumph Scrambler X as its a beautiful machine having all…n just forget the heavy one left in the lot!
I’m eagerly waiting for the updated 390 Adventure with the new Duke 390 platform. Spy shots look amazing 🤩
Amazing work on understanding and reviewing bikes man , i can seriously see 100k coming very soon for you.
Thanks a lot ☺️
I have ridden my Adventure 390 for 22k kms. Trust me, the are no vibes except arount 4.5k rpm. If you spec it up fuelx and Motorex engine oil, it becomes butter smooth.
I own a 2021 KTM 390 Adventure and a 2017 Royal Enfield Bullet 500, both based in Bangalore. I've explored Ladakh on both bikes, Nepal's Lower Mustang on the Bullet, and the Rann of Kutchh on the Adventure. While I enjoy both, the 390 excels at long-distance, high-speed riding and handles rough terrain confidently. The Bullet is perfect for leisurely rides on winding roads.
I test-rode the Himalayan 450 and Scrambler 400X, and the Scrambler immediately stood out because of the way it handles, it feels light, nimble and very easy to ride.
However, after couple of months later again test ride on Scrambler while returning from a short ride on my adv. I realized the 390's power, braking, and wind protection were invaluable. Despite this, the Scrambler still appeals as a potential third bike. My latest test ride, the Shotgun 650, was incredibly impressive with its power, torque, weight, and braking. I’m now leaning towards the Shotgun as my third motorcycle🤞
The 650s are a great fleet of motorcycles. Good choice 🙂
Typing this in the middle of the video at 4:54 , my dear friend owns 390x and that bike doesn’t feel planted as you have mentioned, it’s very uncomfortable to put down her neck whenever you open the throttle and its very wavy on high speed overtakes! Feels like it will bump you into something.
Thanks for sharing 🙂
Hi Abhishek please add Bmw 310 Gs to in the mix. And now suggest which you consider best
@@SK27_VLOGS I don’t think g310 gs will fit well with these new motorcycles 😅 Among these, I still consider the Scrambler 400x the best overall.
@@AbhishekDaniel Absolutely the 310gs is less powdered and low on features compared to the other three. But if you consider looks, suspension, comforts, brand value...I believe the GS tops among the others. What are your thoughts on that?
@@SK27_VLOGS I'm not sure. I haven't taken test ride of GS 310 so I cannot comment on the comfort. Brand value is useless as its parts and service is from TVS. And I've heard from users that service is unnecessarily expensive when compared to the same platforms like the RR 310 and not of good quality.
Super review bro.. I am planning to upgrade from Karizma R with 1lac odo but confused between Adv X & Scrambler X .. scrambler X is ticking all boxes apart from tank size n majorly small seat.. please suggest how comfortable it is for pillion n some time my kiddo seats between for very sort spin around nearby locality.. my purpose is both city + long ride & i daily commute to office via silk board so need low end torque for which I doubt adv X n it may be difficult to manoeuvre
Seat comfort is very good on the scrambler 400. It’s almost as good as my Himalayan touring seat. Pillion seat is a little tilted so pillion tends to slide forward while braking but it’s not a big issue. Get a small top box so that it acts as a backrest for the pillion. For city commute and highway comfort, Scram beats ADV X in every way
@@AbhishekDaniel thank you 😊
Loved your video and enthusiasm about the bike reviews, Congratulations for the new ride. Subscribed
Thank you 🙂
Finally an excellent comparison on what the bikes feel like riding, then and not just specs on a paper. We'll done sir! Safe rides!
Thank you. Happy riding 🙂
Love your smile and enthusiasm
Thank you 🙂
Hey... Nice comparo... How is pillion comfot on Scrambler 400 X?
Seat comfort is very good. Similar to my Himalayan 411. Although it's a bit slanted forward so the pillion tends to slide forward during hard braking. It's not a deal breaker though.
Has the triumph power enoguh to drive 120/130 km/h
@@rodrap5366 it’s top speed is 160 kmph. It can cruise easily at 120-130 kmph although you might want to install a visor to protect the wind blast
Ohhhhhh your smile and your teeth display won't stop when you started informing about triumph scrambler 😅😅😅 ... It was amazing
Haha thanks. And that happiness has remained the same even after 5000kms on the Scrambler 😄
Am here at saying this…but still am saying…adipoli review brother
Thank you 🙂
Which one has better engine? And Mileage? Scrambler 400x or himalayan
Not sure about mileage but refinement and performance wise Scrambler has the better engine.
@@AbhishekDaniel thnkzz ❤
I do touring with pillion all the time. The only purpose I will be buying a new bike will be for touring. I already own a TVS Ronin, which has been performing excellently and no issues as such. Thinking of an upgrade now
Which bike will suit my case here? I was leaning towards the 390x, as I am unsure about the pillion comfort on the Scrambler 440x. Thoughts?
Great Video btw.
Pillion comfort is better in Himalayan 450. Scrambler is not bad.
Bro, Very well explained with practical examples, very much impressed.
@@fariedulhassanmohammed3681 Thank you 🙂
Hello brother ! First of all great review !! I wanted to know how will scramble 400x perform in city commute ? I’m confused between triumph scramble 400x and RE GUERRILA 450
Scrambler is very easy to manoeuvre in city commute. Scrambler and Guerilla are very two different types of motorcycles with two different use case scenarios. You should compare guerilla with speed 400 and test ride both.
@@AbhishekDaniel speed 400 seems very small and not so comfortable for the pillion also , I was earlier using suzuki vstorm , found it very difficult to manoeuvre in the city traffic here in Chennai .
Bro, for the first time, I watched the whole review video of bikes.
Thank you🙂
Well and truthful summary bro, all the best with new bike!
Thank you 🙂
Had bought scrambler after a long research for almost a year , now happy 😊… fit and finish awesome
Congrats. Happy riding 🙂
KTM Adv x Rider here, the midrange vibration i haven't seen but have heard more people complain about it, so it's probably bike specific issue, and yes, the mind-blowing gut punch speed is my reason to get that beauty!
I’m planning to get one in 2025 😋
Man U are wonder full the way u choose to speak real facts and kill all the fuss about 450 hats off great work man it’s all the money which is talking about 450 the way u explained 390 and scram honestly wow
Thank you for your support 🙂
You have busted the hype associated with 450 Himalayan and KTM Adv. Truly appreciate your unbiased review which resonate with Bulu Patnaik's views on these bikes. This is a must watch video for bike hunters in this segment. For your 5.6 Ft frame, you should have preferred Triumph Speed 400 over the scrambler and would like your opinion on this
Thank you for your feedback 🙂 Rider height and ridability is a common misconception. You don't need to have planted foot on a motorcycle especially if the bike itself is quite easy to handle. You just need to skill up and it's an easily acquirable skill. Off road training helps. Speed 400 is too small for my liking. My friend even though she's 5.4 feet, handles the scrambler quite well. It just took her a week to get used to it. In fact, I found the Scrambler much easier to handle than my Himalayan 411 even with a 35mm increase in the seat height because of its light weight and design.
@AbhishekDaniel Some how I feel that if one can flat foot it would be far more confident to ride over any terrains . I wish Triumph could provide provisions for lowering the seat and a main stand.
@@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429 I'd recommend you under go off road training. In Banglore you have Magnum Motorsports and BigRock Dirtpark offering great courses. Once you get trained, you'll come to know that having flat foot is a complete misconception. You'll be confident to ride any tall bikes through any terrain after training.
@AbhishekDaniel Have been riding bikes @12 years age when I could barely tip toe
I can ride higher seating position bikes but would be much more comfortable in bikes where I could flat foot. I wish to know why you preferred Scrambler over Speed having the same engine configuration with lesser weight and lower seat height 😕
@@sudhansuranjanmohapatra6429 Bro I also have been riding bikes since the age of 14. That doesn't mean I will be naturally good at it. Driving schools just teach you to do an 8 because that's all you need to get a licence. But I learned a hell lot more about body balancing, clutch and throttle control etc, when I went for off road training 3 years back. I learned it from the experts and professionals., That's when you realise that what we've been used to for decades are totally wrong and there are better ways to ride a motorcycle. You need to unlearn years of what you are used to so that you can learn and acquire a new set of skills. The same goes for the notion of planted foot and confidence. Coming to the bikes, speed is too small and limited in terms of its touring and off road capabilities. Scrambler can do much more than speed. The ergonomics, suspension, handling, ground clearance etc are much better on the scrambler making it an overall better and capable bike than the Speed. Seat height is never an issue for me if the bike is easier to handle. My 1975 bullet 350 was lighter and had lower seat height (around 790mm). But that was more difficult to handle than the KTM 390 ADV which has 850mm seat. Overall handling capacity of the bike matters.
Its feals like a real-world review... Your narration was awesome 👍🏻😎
Thank you 🙂
The exact video i was looking for, great content man. You saved me hours of watchtime on youtube for review videos, keep up the good work dude! Very underrated youtuber, you earned a sub! ❤
Thank you for the kind words ☺️
Nice review. I own the himalayan 450 and I have done 2000 kms on it. I was about to buy the ktm adv 390 but was cheesed off with the attitude of the ktm staff at the dealership. Faced no issues with the himalayan so far except you have to manage the weight when the bike is static. I did a tubless conversion for touring and just love the engine, it's amazing. What I realised is just go with the bike you connect with :) there is no perfect, flawless bike out there. Happy riding y'all.
Well said. None of these bikes are inherently bad. It's just that it fits differently for different use case scenarios and I wanted to share mine so that someone similar to me may find it useful 🙂
Hey, would you compare the scrambler 400x with the new svartpilen 401. Love your videos
I'd love to try the 401. I'll try it soon 😁
Please do it but husqvarna 401 is also tubed😢😢😢
@@jimmyt.v.1648 😅 ya it's tubed
Yes please also do a comparison between the husky401 and gambler 400x lol@@AbhishekDaniel
@@miketurner1022 Will do definitely as soon as I get to test ride one 🙂
No hima 450 here yet in Germany. Rode the first Street 400 in DE today. Awesome bike, all you say is true about the engine refinement and power but as limited for first 1000 km the usability in town is horrible. Will try the x400 in may. Seat height is annoying disadvantage
Seat height is not bad given the fact that the bike is very flickable. You’ll get used to it
Very relatable video. Planning to upgrade to scrambler 400x from jawa 42
It's a good upgrade choice 🙂
Under rated youtuber 💯💯
Thank you 🙂
Wow... what a honest review.. we need reviews like this.. Thank you so much..
You're welcome🙂
Ok, here i go on why himalayan is actually more value for money
1. Linear throttle response is actually good, jumpy throttle is the main reason i'm not buying triumph, i test rode the triumph and it felt too jumpy, the engine doesn't behave like you expect it to, jumpy is not what you need, imagine you're in traffic or in off road and you twist your throttle a little bit and the bike jumps. Linear throttle of himalayan is very good and it accelerates very quickly, it's not just fast, it's very quick, compare it to 400x or 390 adv side by side drag race or see any videos and see the difference.
2. Suspension, it's not even close himalayan suspension is so so much better than triumph and adv 390
3. Breaking is also excellent, specially the back break it's very good.
4. Engine I don't know what refinement we are talking about here, 400x and adv 390 both vibrate like crazy as well, 400x a little less so than himalayan, but if it's just the tapet noise i'm not really sure
5. Accessories now coming to these, RE has launched all of them and they'll be available, on top of that himalayan is most likely to have the best accessories/ cheapest accessories out of all of them from 3rd party vendors
6. Repair network, say you are travelling somewhere and your bike broke down, RE service centers are available everywhere in india.
7. Low end is significantly better than ktm 390, it's not quite as good as triumph, haven't felt it as a significant issue when test riding
8. Gearbox is butter smooth
9. Instrument cluster is significantly better than anything in it's price range
tubeless tyres is a very valid point and RE is digging itself a grave by not providing them at the time of launch or not announcing a coming date and price, this is a very valid point for preferring 400x but rest all seems like justifications you're trying to make for the purchase.
Worth 👍
Please suggest which one to buy among these 3 bikes
@@Military_heros_World all are good, test ride and buy the one you like the most, for regular uses I'd still say triumph but this video is super misleading it portrays Himalayan as a super bad bike which it is not
@@naveenbattula thank you but i booked himalayan 452. Is that worth to buy!?
@@Military_heros_World It is worth it, only deal breaker for me is tubeless tyres, I also booked it but now debating because of tubeless tyres
Confused to take the scrambler 400x or wait for the 2025 ktm adv 390. As my nearest Triumph service centre is 300 kms away. Suggest brother.
Both are two very different motorcycles. Only a test ride could help.
You have earned a subscription with your honesty and to the point information ❤
Thank you 🙂
Did you consider dominar 400 at any point in time? Or you wanted more of an off-road capability? I tested all 3 - Himalayan 450, scrambler 400x and the dominar 400 - if you're ok with the design and lesser adventure capability but more of a tourer, I felt dominar 400 was the most comfortable for someone of my height (166cm).. also felt there was so much said about the discomfort in city commute, and surprisingly, I found it very easy to manage if you know where the power kicks in. And it costs the least of them all!
I have ridden and used my friend’s Dominar for a week. Good motorcycle but not great for off road. That’s why I didn’t consider it. I’m not a fan of street or race bikes. I look for ADV or Scrambler ones which can do a good amount of off road as well.
Man the most genuine review so far
Thank you 😊
Beautiful Abhi, so clear well said. Good work. 😇😈
Thank you🙂
Good review. I am also in lookout for a bike, but my need is pillion should be comfortable too. I understand you selected the scrambler but among these 3, which one do you think will be best for pillion comfort and fully loaded touring. I think both KTM and Himalayan 450 lacks low end torque
I currently don't have a bike, and as most of us Indian, it will be my only bike.
Pillion comfort would be the best on the Himalayan 450 as it has the widest comfortable rear seat with good pillion ergonomics.
Very rarely we see reviews where the Engine is taken seriously.. thank you, glad to see this video ❤
You're welcome. Glad you liked it 🙂
Bro even I have been confused between Himalayan and Scrambler. I have to buy purely for touring with a pillion as I already have a scooty for city commute. I have test rode both of them and both felt good but when riding above 80 I felt Himalayan was much more effortless than the Scrambler. What do you suggest ?
Go with your instinct. If you like Himalayan more, then go for it. I'd suggest you to convert the rims to tubeless before you start touring
Your review covered everything that any potential owner would like to know. I've seen channels where the technicalities are discussed to no end, but none of them capture the rider's experience - you managed to expand upon this beautifully. I wish you all the very best, do keep up the good work.
@@varunkapur5640 thank you for the kind words ☺️
What an Enthusiastic guy, Subscribed!
Thank you 😀
I have has a KTM 390 Adventure for nearly two years. I have no trouble with vibrations. I agree it doesn't have the low end torque that is best for off road riding.
It's because you are now used to it! That's it but the vibrations are really annoying, those plastic Buzz!
Bro very good detailed video on comparison.
I am planning to buy KTM 390 Adventure Standard but after watching this video I am confused. Will surely take test ride of Scrambler.
Can you please also let me know how much the service cost of Scrambler. Also, we can able to fit top box over it or not?
Service cost is decent. First service cost around 2.2k. Parts are also cheap. The overall service cost is same as my Himalayan.
Regarding top box, I’ve made a video on accessories for the Scrambler. Kindly check that out.
@@AbhishekDaniel yeah I have watch the video later after posting comment
I'm returning to riding but I now live in a mountainous twisty road kind of place, and we are not short on gravelly or wet patches, often with sheer drops near by just in case you get it wrong :). I have got my choice down to the same three bikes as you, and like you I'm pretty sure I'm going to want that Triumph for the same reasons. The only problem is that the gravel and wet stuff is new and currently bit of a worry for me, and I was thinking that the KTM cornering ABS and traction control could give me more confidence and safety than what is on the Triumph. Do you think in my situation that I am correct or am I concerned unnecessarily? Any advice much appreciated, thanks.
Cornering ABS and traction control are more for on road purpose. While on gravel, you need to switch off both these for KTM as well as Triumph. The best thing you can do for safety is to skill up. Attend a level 1 off road training from a school near you and you’ll gain a ton of confidence.
@@AbhishekDaniel Thanks for your advice on that. It is actually on road where I will be riding, it’s just that water from the mountainside, mud or gravel from repairs can suddenly appear around the next bend and you have no choice but to go through it. I do go slow just in case, but it is a little too slow for the people on 4 wheels so I need to train as you advise. Since training is so far away for me I will need to push things a little myself to get better, and it is in this regard, say when I am cornering on good road but find a little mud , that I was hoping cornering ABS might help me out?
@@robertYTB78g Cornering ABS will be a counterintuitive thing on gravel. Be it slush or sand on the road. It'll increase stopping distance and cut the throttle input for quick manoeuvres. It's more useful on track and highways. For your case scenario, I would still recommend training to skill up on braking, throttle and clutch finese and body balancing which will be way useful than ABS or MTC.
Heartiest Congratulations brother
Thank you 🙂
Hiiii! My priority is to tour with pillion and a lil bit of city cruising. Can you please suggest which one should I choose. Would be a great help😊
Take a test ride of these 3 motorcycles. Go for the one which suits you well
@@AbhishekDaniel unfortunately no triumph showroom present in my city
Hi bro,
Thanks for the amazing video.
Could you please clarify if triumph scram 400x is good for a person of height 5.8 ft.
Thanks in advance..😊
Please take a test ride. Only a test ride can tell if your body type is suitable for a particular motorcycle.
I do agree brother. How beautifully u explained . I too took test frive for himalyan 450 n then trium scram n bought my Triump sram . It is so so so beautiful… n i dont need to explain more as u alrrady dis… i had interceptor earlier… but trium scram is far far far better than RE.
Congrats. Happy riding 🙂
Brilliant summary... Thank you for the honest feedback! Love your perspective.
Question: If you are more used to the old Himalayan, then wouldn't the KTM ADV 250 be closer in torque and power to your current ride? It would be more efficient too! Did you think about it?
In my opinion, cubic capacity is just a measure that is somehow proportional only to the fuel efficiency of the engine and nothing else really.
Didn’t give a thought about the 250 ADV but I’ve heard it’s still a high revving engine
Same suggestion did test ride ktm 390,himalaya 450,bmwgs 310 and finally choose triumph scrambler 5months back very happy with it❤
Congrats! Happy riding 🙂
Hi Abhishek,
Subcribed from Bangalore!
Awesome summary! Great content which I was looking for.
Need your valuable suggestion for my next bike purchase:
A short background of my rides and query:
Kinetic Boss - 2002 - 2005 (3 Yrs)
Upgraded to HH Karizma - 2005 - 2014 (9 Yrs)
Downgraded to Suzuki Gixxer 150 - 2014 - 2021 (7 Yrs)
Further downgraded to Honda Activa Pre Owned - 2021 - Till date.
Bought Active for family errands. But I miss bikes.
I want to go for a good bike 400 CC +.
So, A new 400 cc or used RE 650 for the same price?
Use is for casual office commutes and touring once a month or 2. The main purpose at this age (37+) is to enjoy the bike
even at slow speeds. Gone are my days of thrill, adrenaline rush, and top speeds. Want to connect to the bike and feel it? (I sound kiddish)
I love all the machines I have owned. Would keep this and maybe become a collector.
I am open to used bikes as well.
Thanks in advance !!!
I strongly recommend you to test ride the 400s and the 650s. Make a list of the available ones, pick a day and test ride. Go with the one which makes you happy. You’ll definitely feel connected to the bike that fits your needs well
@@AbhishekDaniel Thanks a lot ! Yes will test ride them and go with the one connect with. Thanks Again !
Amazing Review! And yepp - the Triumph is just an absolute beast of a machine. Beautifully made.
Did you adjust the preload on the ktm adventure 390? Which variant did you test ride ?
ADV 390 X. It's a test ride bike.
Superb review subscribed..😍, still confused btn Adv 390x & Scrambler 400x. As a previous owner duke 200 slightly inclined towards KTM.
Wait for 2025 390 ADV. I think it'll be worth it. Or test ride both. 🙂
Brother thank you. I was confused between same three bikes and youtube review made me crazy. Going to book triumph.
You're welcome 😀
Please compare triumph scrambler 400x and Harley Davidson x440
Not into motorcycles that ain’t off road oriented 😅
Please help me.. i am confuse between Speed 400 or interceptor..please need your suggestion
@@alokedey9295 both are totally different bikes. You need to test ride to know which you like better.
Same here brooo 😂
@@AbhishekDanieltriumph 400 or interceptor
@@nidhins6349 read my first reply
Triumph 400x Or Honda 500adv... maintenance and service wise
I don’t have any experience with Honda 🥲
9:26 your 100% right himalayan very bad engine noises and very cranky, thats why i opted for the Triumph, Triump engine was so so refined and classy.
Agree 👍🏻
I'm in the same confusion right now, I also took test drives of all 3 bikes and I feel the same! Thanks for the honest opinion on the Himalayan 450 and things no one is talking about specially big youtubers!
You’re welcome 🙂
Much loved your honest review bro and congrats on the new ride 👍
Thank you 🙂
70:30 high speed highway and off-road, Adv would be best.
KTM's service is far better than RE.
Spare quality is better than RE.
RE has better low end. It is 50:50. Off-road and highway tour. But definitely not as good as Adv 390 (on the highway).
Adv 390 throttle response and gear box is best in the segment. Precise shift and throttle response. Made for each other.
Adv's ergo is definitely good (both for pillion and rider).
450 is absolutely beautiful off-road machine. Suspension, wheel size, GC everything is perfect.
Its all about priorities. My priority would be 70:30. So i prefer adv 390.
Well said 😀 All 3 motorcycles are good and have strong points. It's just that it fits differently for different people based on their use case scenarios.
Same here rode back to back these 3 bike... Triumph is great and practical
i am a owner of scrambler 400x had the same experience u explained it really well, had the same feeling while test driving the vehicle and just a few days back had my first accident, fortunately i did not get hurt but the build quality of the scrambler is amazing i thought it was going to be in a very bad shape after the accident but i was shocked to see there was no major damage to the bike only slight bent in the handle bar and gear shifter was damaged shocked to see that the plastic handle guards did not break they look like some cheap plastic handle guards but they took the whole impact really well. The service from the showroom is also amazing they were really supportive and friendly. i had gone to the khivraj triumph showroom in electronic city very friendly experience. They never discriminated between me and the other guys with bigger bikes. that was one of the thing i was a bit worried about in the start that they will not treat us on equal grounds with the bigger bike owners but completely changed my opinion after the accident.
Happy to hear your experience with the bike. I too went to Khivraj in Whitefield and they dealt with the service exceptionally well. I had gone to Keerthi in Lalbagh to get the crash guard fixed and boy it's true what everyone says about Keerthi😅And my suggestion would be to break in the bike very slowly. I coming from the Himalayan had a tough time learning how to control the Scrambler because of its power and quick throttle response. It's addictive and exciting but also dangerous. Allow yourself to skill up well before you experience the bike's full potential. That way you can avoid future mishaps. Use good riding gears too. Ride safe 🙂
Sir, Please create a review video with all accessories of your new beby scambler 400x
It's already there on my channel
I test rode both the Himalayan 450 and Scrambler 400x. I agree with every point discussed here. The throttle response on the Himalayan is very laggy, the fit and finish doesn’t feel good and overall the bike didn’t feel very refined.
I went ahead and booked the Scrambler 400x the very next day as it was perfect for my needs.
Congrats! Ride safe 🙂
Have you tried Honda hness too? If yes, what is your feedback?
I love that bike. But because of its limited off road capability, I didn’t buy it. And I’ve heard from users that it struggles in high altitudes like Ladakh.
@@AbhishekDaniel I have a plan to buy a motorcycle. Max budget 4.5L.
My purpose is to just travel with pillion 80%. Travel is mostly on highway and avg roads. No off road. Maybe under some unfortunate circumstances.
Pillion comfort is must.
Which bike you prefer? I have few in mind.
1. Meteor 350 (Scared of their service, but i have a good local mechanic friend)
2. Triumph scrambler 400x (For its exhaust)
3. Hness
4. Vstrom 250
5. KTM 390 ADV (they are coming up with new model next year. So last choice)
6. Any other model, you prefer.
@@kabilanravi884 I haven’t test ridden any other bike other than the ones mentioned in the video 😅 so I’m sorry I won’t be able to recommend anything to you for your use case scenario. I’m more of an off road person so i know only about ADVs and Scramblers since I ride them all the time. I think it’s better if you test ride your choices. Test rides will help you decide.
own a KTM ADV 390.. yea lot of buzzing... planning to sell it for a scrambler or Honda cbr.