Note: turning off device encryption may take a few hours depending on how much you have on your drive. Mine took 2 minutes, mostly due to being a fairly fresh device (exchanged due to sd card slot issue)
@@papolini109 I upgraded from a new Ally to a new 2tb ssd, so disabling encryption was fast, because of this I re enabled encryption, better to be safe IMHO. But I don't know how much stuff you have installed, I also upgraded to windows 11 pro just after the upgrade. I would turn it back on even if I had stuff filling up space before I upgraded.
Thanks man i was scared of upgrading my rog ally ssd but after watching you tutorial I just upgrade my ssd to 1tb and it works fine thank you so much for such videos ❤
worked great, thank you very much! I did everything exactly like in the video, it all took 5 hours and now I have 2.5 TB of storage and all the data is exactly as before
@@okestgamer I successfully replaced the SSD! Honestly all your steps were so helpful. I ran into a weird issue after swapping the SSD and closing the machine the device would not turn back on its own. I had to first connect it to a power supply again for it to turn on. I was so scared I broke my ROG ally but once I connected the power it turned back on and now it does not need the power to start. It was weird!
just in case someone gets worried about disabling bitlocker takes too long or seems stuck: it took nearly 2 hours for my Ally (I had roughly 80% of the ssd filled)
Excellent tutorial, worked perfectly. A few notes I have are that the case is surprisingly soft. Even with a guitar pick I was bending the edges of the case up a little. The plastic isn't brittle, but a metal pry might be dangerous here unless you're very, very careful. Also, the power button is finicky with the Ally. I'm not sure if I accidentally pressed mine or what happened, but I suddenly saw the device was on while I was taking the case off. Maybe it wasn't completely shut down? I have no clue. It gave me a little fright that I had screwed something up, but in the end it was fine.
My decryption on the Ally took 70 mins with exactly 463 gigs used, out of 475 total available space. My legion go somehow had encryption disabled, I point this out because to me there’s no point on reenabling encryption. To copy everything to a 2280 2TB gen3 took about 20 mins. Whole process took about 2 hours
Ok just to save some time. I got it to work. While it was decrypting, i started the cloning process to cut time short. Once the cloning was completed my decryption was also completed.
I just completed my 2280 upgrade on this and just to note, when trying to turn the ally back on after install, you may need to plug the device in. Mine did not accept input from the power button until I did so.
Thanks for another awesome video, going to upgrade my ssd to 2tb also adding a jsaux backplate. Didn’t want to use the cloud backup, I’ve used easeus for pc in the past, but going to try your recommendations with macrium, thanks again 😊 btw, do I have to turn the bitlock back on?
Great video and very informative. I think I'm just going to get a 2TB 2280 and a conversion just redownload everything. This is the cheaper option for me.
Best of luck man, I never tried that mod, was worried about the heat on the ssd due to being above heatsink. I know others have done it successfully though.
Yeah only time will tell. I can either wait for a cheaper 2230 or just get a 2280. I've seen people apply a heat sticker on the SSD but i'm not sure which side it should be on. I've seen a video and there was a lot of conflicted comments about the proper way to put it. @@okestgamer
What would happen if the SSD were just manually swapped before disabling bitlocker.. can I still do the enclosure if I already have the new SSD in the rog..?
You can use cloud recovery for the new SSD (I have a video on that) you'll need to access your bitlocker keys from your Microsoft to access files or wipe the previous SSD. It's just easier to do it on the device.
One thing to note: after reassembly, it won't power back on unless you are charging the device. Don't be alarmed that it will take a longer time to finally boot to Windows the first time around.
TIP: Keep the original 2230 nvme drive as is. So you can easily swap it back when you shipit back for microSD-card reader fix.. Cause we all know thats going to happen. I have done it once already. They will factory reset even the nvme in the service (when they swap new motherboard in) so swapping the original in, you don’t loose your data.
So the sd card issue is a hardware based issue? Is there any way to avoid it or not? I havent put a micro sd card yet since ssd s are so cheap and I got an adapter for the 2280 ones. 50$ for 1tb when i would have paid the same for 512gb of micro sd. I ll prob go for a 2tb when they re on special for 90$ but sd card could be great for all my emulators since they dont take that much space anyways
@@TheAmanor123 Adjusting more aggressive curves for the fan might work. Additionally I installed a tiny heat sink to the 2230 nvme when I upgraded it -- it ”should” help with the overall heat build up. But 25-35W settings will create quite much heat so I would avoid long sessions with maximum power modes. But to be honest: I haven’t followed this issue for weeks now. My Ally does not use microSD-card at the moment: 2TB 2230 nvme and a second 1TB normal nvme in dock when stationary. Im not sure if fitting a normal size nvme is a perfect idea: heat sink installation (which would cover the whole nvme) is not possible for those. I know those are cheaper, but….
Hello. I'm not sure which cable goes into the ally and the other into the adapter. So u know need to have the ally plugged into the wall and the adapter that clones the card into what port of the Ally. Sorry am new to all of this. Thanks
Sorry for late reply, unfortunately the ally only has one port. Due to this I use a USB c dock so I can charge the ally while still plugging in the SSD enclosure. One of the limitations of a single port device.
You would need to tenable it in windows. I did that because I swap SSDs and handhelds like I change clothes haha. It really comes down to individual preferences on whether to re-enable.
My ally comes today but my ssd won’t come till Monday and the adapter I want to install to use a 2280 will prob take longer. If I just decrypt the drive right out the box I take it I can feel free to play around with it install game and then just clone the drive later when everything shows up? Also is the reason for the dock simply power delivery to ensure you can power the ext nvme? If so my standard usb hub with pd should be fine
For decryption at the start, yup that will work, it should make the process very fast actually. For the dock, yes having it powered is to make sure the ssd doesn’t disconnect. I’ve had issues with other drives plugged straight in, in the past.
I just bought a new Ally and wanted to upgrade the ssd. Since its a brand new device, do i still need to do cloud recovery?? Also do i need to install updates before switching with the new ssd?
i just bought a 2TB SSD and replace the original one, but i see in many videos that you might need to put a heatsink when you get 2TB version , so i just ordered a heatsink a pad , i will check the temp before and after …
Good afternoon, I need a little help, I keep getting a error #8 it always fails around 43%, I have done this 5 times and is the same thing. please help thanks.
I'm doing the copy part from the original 512 GB to a 2tb and it's been an hour And still 50 percent copied is that normal? The original 512 was almost full
Thanks for this method, is more effisien and safer than use cloud recovery method. BTW I need your Guidence for my special case. I have 2TB ROG Ally and ROG Flow Z13 1TB. And I have plan to swap the SSD. For helping this, I have Laptop and HD External 4TB. Any ideas how to swap it?
Im doing this process bow. Because i don't want to deal with decryption taking hours and id rather redownload my games, i have deleted my games from the original ssd. I'm doing the decryption part now and its stuck at like 5% even without these games on it. Should i just reset to factory settings? I havent changed anything really, just logged unto account, so thats all id really lose which i need to log back in anyways
Another method is to just get your decryption keys to enter when it prompts. I’m not sure why it takes so long for some people’s devices. Mine was 2 min
@@okestgamer if your device was clean it wouldn't take long and if you hadn't logged into OneDrive yet I think. I'm all good now though and have so many games! Thanks for the help!
Hey, so I tried cloning my 512 GB SSD to a new 2 TB Rocket 2230 SSD, but I'm stuck in the BIOS screen. I followed the instructions carefully, but it's not working. When I put my 512 GB SSD back in, it loads normally, and the 2 TB SSD is still readable in the enclosure. I think the cloning process might be messed up.
Yes, I did. For some reason, the SSD wasn't showing up in my drives' storage, so I had to go to advanced storage, create the drive, and find it through the dock. After that lengthy process, I opened the app, connected it, and meticulously followed your instructions. After I got to the BIOS, I decided I had reached a dead end, so I wiped the drive and tried to do it from scratch, but Windows 11 wasn't booting. I was able to copy about 400 GB worth of storage from my C drive, so I have no idea what the issue is, but I know it has to do with my new SSD.
@@questioneverything5595 I wonder if the key side of the drive is incompatible. That's another potential if the external enclosure reads it but not the device slot
@@okestgamer thought the same thing. I did an exchange at BB on the SSD. Going to see if the first one was causing issues and not the Insignia USB C enclosure.
You would probably need to setup a new partition. Depends on how the old one is setup. If the old data was isolated to a partition that's extra it probably would work. I could be wrong though.
Would cloud recovery give you all the same data as cloning? I am getting a new ssd and would like it to have all the same settings/apps and everything that my OG one has. New to PC gaming so any advice would help
Honestly the simplest method is cloning, hardest Part (longest part) is decrypting the drive. You can also just enter your encryption key if you don’t want to decrypt it.
I would suggest it, sometimes the cloning process can take a long time and your battery die before it finishes. If yours doesn’t have much info on it, you could probably pull it off without a dock
@@okestgamer Thanks boss! I've just ordered one of those SSD enclosures so I will follow through your way. I'm kinda scared about the battery shorting as I don't know much about that, but will not remove it with metal if i do. You decided not to remove the battery at all, is that what you'd recommend?
Warning: This may get stuck or take literal hours to complete. So I started the decryption process and it hasn't moved for about 4 hours now... I can't seem to cancel it either. The Rog is extremely slow now because it's trying to do the decryption in the background. update: Yeah this sucks. I was in the process of setting it up for RMA (send it back to asus) to get my SD card reader fixed and I can't seem to find a way to stop this decryption process. It's been over 6 hours now and everything is moving slow and lagging. I've read that you can pause it by going to control panel and find the management settings there, but I don't see it. I get a prompt to upgrade my windows to the pro version to perhaps manage it. update: "FIXED" This may not be helpful seeing the subject of the video, but I was able to get it unfrozen by manually deleting most of my programs and games on the rog ally. I started with World of Warcraft and saw the bar move but then it got stuck again. I ended up deleting all my game files and folders, including shortcuts and after, it started to work. It took about 15 minutes to finish after the manual deletion of most applications.
The original one won’t boot either? You could always try cloud recovery instead. I have a video on that process as well, of course the bios versions are newer since then, but will still apply with the new bios
Hey dude! Do you know of a dock that will output video via type c?? I want to use a touchscreen portable monitor you see but also charge the Ally. Thanks 🙏🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I have the exact same ugreen ssd enclosure but i don't have a powered USB hub. Will it still work? I need to take it back to the shop tomorrow because of the right joystick only moving up and down and no left or right.
@@okestgamer sorry to be a nuisance but i have one more question, because my joystick is faulty and I'm taking it into the shop (was supposed to today but i was too busy) will the clone be ok in a different Rog Ally? Same hardware? Lol what a pain it is having a faculty device.. I was tempted to buy hall effect joysticks to replace the vanilla Rog sticks instead of taking it back, but my ally is only 2ish months old so I'm taking advantage of the warranty, I still have PSPs and Vita's whose joystick/joysticks are fine even now lol oh well at least my 512gb microsd hasn't broken in the Ally lol.
I’m not 100% sure of whether or not you would have issues in another ally. Different bios and forward updates installed most likely. Plus the windows key might give trouble. I have never tried so I could be saying these things for nothing.
Hello would something like the Qwiizlab USB C Hub with SSD Enclosure, Docking Station for MacBook Air/Pro M1/M2, HDMI 4K@60Hz USB PD 100W Type-C 10Gbps Card Readers 100MB/s, Fits M.2 SATA & NVMe PCIe SSD work instead of the hub and the enclosure?
It’s Detected it via a restart, I’ve done the install process but it keeps coming up with error regarding the last two partitions and hasn’t cloned my recovery and my Asus, anyway to resolve this?
Keeps coming up with an error 8.. even when I thought everything was installed and changed over ssd’s.. just keeps coming with error on blue page when turned on and keeps going over and over, had to put the current one back in to get it to work.. dont understand why it won’t work and what I need to do to resolve this?? Please help
@@okestgamer yes I’ve done the decryption, I’m using the Corsair mp600 mini but every time after the install I keep getting an error #8.. have no idea why it won’t work
It’s more in case you run out of power, or if you need to manually update the bios. You could give it a try without, worst case scenario you throw your old ssd back in and try again later
Dude I'm still here after an hour ....would have been quicker to reinstall everything considering I didn't have much to begin with, I just didn't want to run updates again...but geez
@@JCDenton. yeah I’ve been hearing some people have had Long processes. Of you look at my clock in the video it took less than 2 min for me (12:40 am -12:42 am)
@@okestgamerupdate: after nearly 4 hours it completed. I just left it alone and let it complete. I now have to install it and should be good to go. Scary but it seemed to have worked.
It's highly recommended. If you have a full battery you may be able to get through the cloning without a dock. I've seen some cloning take a few hours, so that's why I recommend
My cloning failed. And the software no longer recognizes the 2TB drive. I am attemptig to reformat it and try it again. Would you have any idea why it would fail? @@okestgamer
Anyone can help me, I already upgrade my ssd to 1TB using this method.. But my problem is, i want using my old SSD rog Ally, and put it into enclosure. But its cant be read in partition wizard
@@minhha658 you can with a dock. The ally only has one usb c port which is why I am suggesting a dock. Even a usb c splitter that allows power delivery should do
@@josephrussell2316 the decryption process can take awhile depending on how much you have on the ssd and how long you’ve used it. It can take anywhere from 2 minutes, to 12 hours
@@okestgamer I tried, but I think I accidentally made a secondary disk (D) for the other 1.5tb while messing with storage options beforehand. Someone told me I should still be able to download to and play games from the secondary disk, so I should be fine I suppose.
@@okestgamer I would have thought so too. Everything so far works. But the my Asus app won’t open. I’ve uninstalled it twice and reinstalled it and nothing
Why instruct people to go through the hours long process of decrypting their pc when the decryption key is so easy to obtain? 3 minute fix vs 4 hour fix.
@@okestgamerI understand that this person is giving you a slightly shitty attitude but I'd say it's worth pinning a comment about this. I started the decryption about an hour ago and it's only about 5% complete. If I'd known that this could be avoided, I wouldn't have done it this way... Great video btw 👍
Note:
turning off device encryption may take a few hours depending on how much you have on your drive.
Mine took 2 minutes, mostly due to being a fairly fresh device (exchanged due to sd card slot issue)
Do you think it's better to re-encrypt the device after cloning and changing the SSD?
@@MutazAnani I highly recommend you turn bitlocker on for the newly cloned SSD
@@MutazAnanidid you end up re encrypting the SSD?
Should I turn the encryption when finished? Or isn’t necessary
@@papolini109 I upgraded from a new Ally to a new 2tb ssd, so disabling encryption was fast, because of this I re enabled encryption, better to be safe IMHO. But I don't know how much stuff you have installed, I also upgraded to windows 11 pro just after the upgrade. I would turn it back on even if I had stuff filling up space before I upgraded.
Thanks man i was scared of upgrading my rog ally ssd but after watching you tutorial I just upgrade my ssd to 1tb and it works fine thank you so much for such videos ❤
Not a problem, I’m glad it worked out well for you
I just Installed 2TB on my asus rog ally 👌 thank you for your effort 🙏
Congrats on the upgrade man, glad the guide was helpful
Nice! To the point/ clear and no fluff. Helpful as i am about to go through RMA process with my ally
Best of luck with the RMA, and thanks for your kind words. Glad the video was helpful
Really helpful, currently into the cloning process, many thanks from Paris :)
Not a problem! Glad it was helpful
Thank you! Followed along and just finished getting my new SSD installed. Great video.
Awesome! Glad it was helpful for you. If this next ally’s sd card dies again, I’ll do a fresh windows install video haha.
Great tutorial! Was able to upgrade my ROG Ally’s 512GB to 1TB by following your video. 🍻
Congrats man! Glad it was helpful for you
Decryption for me took 75 minutes. I had 95gb of storage on my Ally. Hope this is helpful for some people.
Thanks for sharing, it seems to vary depending on what you all have. Mine took 2 min, but I had most of my games in a SD card
Worked perfectly. Thank you so much for the tutorial 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Not a problem, glad it all went smoothly
Awesome was looking into getting a dock for the Ally, this one fits the bill perfectly. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Awesome, glad you were able to find it as a good solution. Also thank you, planning to keep at it!
Followed the instructions exactly and got excellent results. A+
Awesome! Glad it went smoothly for you
Fantastic vid, very well explained and structured, good job.
Thank you, hopefully it was helpful for you
worked great, thank you very much! I did everything exactly like in the video, it all took 5 hours and now I have 2.5 TB of storage and all the data is exactly as before
Glad it worked smoothly for you! It’s nice not losing all your files
Which NVME 2230 SSD has 2.5 TB storage?
@@abhijeetdey last time I checked 2tb was the largest 2230
@@okestgamer yeah same I am wondering what OP did to get 2.5TB
@@abhijeetdey probably SD card
Upgraded my Ally to 2TB while following your guide... Great Video... Cheers from Malaysia
Glad it went smoothly for you! Congrats on the upgrade.
I did stupid thing. I use SSD uncloser to cone form my laptop and new SSD. But I forget it's actually simple just use rog ally self
@@woklam342 oh yeah it's pretty easy directly from the device.
@@okestgamer bro why after clone and I put new SSD they come to bios setting can u help me
@@woklam342 most likely the boot order was incorrect. It could also be that maybe you had not copied all partitions
Thanks for this Video it made this process so much easier
Glad it was helpful, and no problem!
Just got mine surprised they just don’t allow you to get 2TB upgrade from start. Definitely will need this video when my storage gets tight 😊
Yeah, probably to keep costs down. Best of luck when you do get yours
@@okestgamer I successfully replaced the SSD! Honestly all your steps were so helpful. I ran into a weird issue after swapping the SSD and closing the machine the device would not turn back on its own. I had to first connect it to a power supply again for it to turn on. I was so scared I broke my ROG ally but once I connected the power it turned back on and now it does not need the power to start. It was weird!
@ChuckFresco this happened to me as well on first open. It’s a little panic inducing. Glad the swap went smoothly though.
just in case someone gets worried about disabling bitlocker takes too long or seems stuck: it took nearly 2 hours for my Ally (I had roughly 80% of the ssd filled)
Thanks for sharing, it seems to be different for each person depending on when you do the process.
Can always trust someone named arthur *tips hat*🤠
Most Arthur’s lol
Ledgend, I couldn't have dun it without ya thanks mate.
Hey glad you managed to get it done! No problem man!
Excellent tutorial, worked perfectly. A few notes I have are that the case is surprisingly soft. Even with a guitar pick I was bending the edges of the case up a little. The plastic isn't brittle, but a metal pry might be dangerous here unless you're very, very careful. Also, the power button is finicky with the Ally. I'm not sure if I accidentally pressed mine or what happened, but I suddenly saw the device was on while I was taking the case off. Maybe it wasn't completely shut down? I have no clue. It gave me a little fright that I had screwed something up, but in the end it was fine.
Yeah it's easy to press power by mistake. I was using the ifixit kit which seems pretty gentle on devices thankfully
Thank you for your walkthrough. Made it very simple. Thank you!
Glad it helped!
My decryption on the Ally took 70 mins with exactly 463 gigs used, out of 475 total available space. My legion go somehow had encryption disabled, I point this out because to me there’s no point on reenabling encryption. To copy everything to a 2280 2TB gen3 took about 20 mins.
Whole process took about 2 hours
Thanks. Ill try mine when my 2tb ssd comes.
Glad it went smoothly and thanks for sharing how long it took, some take longer and some much shorter.
Ok just to save some time. I got it to work. While it was decrypting, i started the cloning process to cut time short. Once the cloning was completed my decryption was also completed.
Nice, great if you could save time
Awesome video. Cloned in 7 mins! Thanks
Hey congrats! Sounds like yours went super smoothly
Appreciate you bro. Everything went smooth.
Not a problem man, glad it went smoothly for you
I just completed my 2280 upgrade on this and just to note, when trying to turn the ally back on after install, you may need to plug the device in. Mine did not accept input from the power button until I did so.
I think I included that in the reassembly portion. It freaked me out the first time as well
@@okestgamerlol same here
@@okestgamer Yeah, I didnt hear the call out but I got it working!
@@jdub65 glad it worked
@@okestgamer freaked me out too!
Thanks for another awesome video, going to upgrade my ssd to 2tb also adding a jsaux backplate. Didn’t want to use the cloud backup, I’ve used easeus for pc in the past, but going to try your recommendations with macrium, thanks again 😊 btw, do I have to turn the bitlock back on?
No problem man. You don't necessarily need to turn it back on, it's really up to you. Mine I left off.
Great video and very informative. I think I'm just going to get a 2TB 2280 and a conversion just redownload everything. This is the cheaper option for me.
Best of luck man, I never tried that mod, was worried about the heat on the ssd due to being above heatsink. I know others have done it successfully though.
Yeah only time will tell. I can either wait for a cheaper 2230 or just get a 2280. I've seen people apply a heat sticker on the SSD but i'm not sure which side it should be on. I've seen a video and there was a lot of conflicted comments about the proper way to put it. @@okestgamer
I’ve been considering trying the mod for the hell of it with a spare ssd
Thanks this was very helpful video since my ally wouldn’t cloud recovery
Not a problem man, glad it was able to help you!
This is super helpful!!! Also, I saw new graphics driver on the asus website
Thank you, glad it was helpful. I saw that, I’m actually doing a driver comparison video right now
@@okestgamer heck yes! Absolutely loving this content 🔥
Thanks!! Worked perfectly. I didn't turn encryption back on so I hope that's OK
I think it should be fine, I also left it off.
I was going to ask if I can turn it on again lol. I assume it wouldn't be an issue, but I'd rather not
What would happen if the SSD were just manually swapped before disabling bitlocker.. can I still do the enclosure if I already have the new SSD in the rog..?
You can use cloud recovery for the new SSD (I have a video on that) you'll need to access your bitlocker keys from your Microsoft to access files or wipe the previous SSD. It's just easier to do it on the device.
One thing to note: after reassembly, it won't power back on unless you are charging the device. Don't be alarmed that it will take a longer time to finally boot to Windows the first time around.
Thank you for this! Scared the hell out of me 😅
It’s a rites of passage to have that scare. Happened to me as well haha
Yes this is definitely a scare. Can’t remember if I mentioned it in this video or not
TIP: Keep the original 2230 nvme drive as is. So you can easily swap it back when you shipit back for microSD-card reader fix.. Cause we all know thats going to happen. I have done it once already.
They will factory reset even the nvme in the service (when they swap new motherboard in) so swapping the original in, you don’t loose your data.
Yup until warranty is up that’s the wise way to do it
So the sd card issue is a hardware based issue? Is there any way to avoid it or not? I havent put a micro sd card yet since ssd s are so cheap and I got an adapter for the 2280 ones. 50$ for 1tb when i would have paid the same for 512gb of micro sd. I ll prob go for a 2tb when they re on special for 90$ but sd card could be great for all my emulators since they dont take that much space anyways
@@TheAmanor123 Adjusting more aggressive curves for the fan might work. Additionally I installed a tiny heat sink to the 2230 nvme when I upgraded it -- it ”should” help with the overall heat build up. But 25-35W settings will create quite much heat so I would avoid long sessions with maximum power modes.
But to be honest: I haven’t followed this issue for weeks now. My Ally does not use microSD-card at the moment: 2TB 2230 nvme and a second 1TB normal nvme in dock when stationary. Im not sure if fitting a normal size nvme is a perfect idea: heat sink installation (which would cover the whole nvme) is not possible for those. I know those are cheaper, but….
Hello. I'm not sure which cable goes into the ally and the other into the adapter. So u know need to have the ally plugged into the wall and the adapter that clones the card into what port of the Ally. Sorry am new to all of this. Thanks
Sorry for late reply, unfortunately the ally only has one port. Due to this I use a USB c dock so I can charge the ally while still plugging in the SSD enclosure. One of the limitations of a single port device.
So my device encryption menu disappeared after doing this is that normal? I’m assuming thats why you didn’t re add it after doing this?
You would need to tenable it in windows. I did that because I swap SSDs and handhelds like I change clothes haha. It really comes down to individual preferences on whether to re-enable.
My ally comes today but my ssd won’t come till Monday and the adapter I want to install to use a 2280 will prob take longer.
If I just decrypt the drive right out the box I take it I can feel free to play around with it install game and then just clone the drive later when everything shows up?
Also is the reason for the dock simply power delivery to ensure you can power the ext nvme? If so my standard usb hub with pd should be fine
For decryption at the start, yup that will work, it should make the process very fast actually.
For the dock, yes having it powered is to make sure the ssd doesn’t disconnect. I’ve had issues with other drives plugged straight in, in the past.
I just bought a new Ally and wanted to upgrade the ssd. Since its a brand new device, do i still need to do cloud recovery?? Also do i need to install updates before switching with the new ssd?
You can clone, or do recovery. Either one works.
@@okestgamer What about the updates?? Should I update it first before switching the SSDs or after the replacement?
@@anonymoussailo9808 you should be fine to do after
Great video!
Thanks man! Glad it was helpful
Is the dock necessary for the process?
Strongly recommended, otherwise the device may die during the process
i just bought a 2TB SSD and replace the original one, but i see in many videos that you might need to put a heatsink when you get 2TB version , so i just ordered a heatsink a pad , i will check the temp before and after …
It would be good to check the temps to see how it performs. There is room for a small hestsink in there.
@@okestgamer yeah i just ordered one on amazon !
Best of luck man, hope the install goes smoothly
@@okestgamer yes install was done following one video from TH-cam it was really easy to do .
Can we just use an external SSD as a stopgap instead of needing to buy another useless gadget I will only use once?
You can use an external drive if you want to expand, I do that personally (mostly due to testing on numerous devices)
i saw some mod with transfer board that make ROG ally fit with 2280 SSD. can u make vid of that. is that safe with the heat ect
I have a friend who’s testing it right now, I may look at grabbing one, I just anticipate needing to do some good modding to keep the ssd temps down
Good afternoon, I need a little help, I keep getting a error #8 it always fails around 43%, I have done this 5 times and is the same thing. please help thanks.
Had you unencrypted before starting?
yes sir
@@okestgamer
I got a 4TB 2280, i followed everything on this video, but no luck.
@@pedropagan4613 hmm that’s very odd, the end connection where you insert the ssd is the same style?
no sir it has 2 openings instead of one. Is That a problem? @@okestgamer
I'm doing the copy part from the original 512 GB to a 2tb and it's been an hour And still 50 percent copied is that normal? The original 512 was almost full
It can take that long yeah, depends what you all had on the ssd
After cloning and installing new ssd am i need to turn on bitlock again?
That is up to you, I did not personally
Can i skip turning that off?? Cuz i got alot of shit in my device and just wanna skip to copy over?
You can use the decryption keys as an alternative
Thanks for this method, is more effisien and safer than use cloud recovery method.
BTW I need your Guidence for my special case.
I have 2TB ROG Ally and ROG Flow Z13 1TB. And I have plan to swap the SSD.
For helping this, I have Laptop and HD External 4TB.
Any ideas how to swap it?
To swap the SSD in the flow?
@@okestgamer Yes, swap the SSD between the ROG Flow and The ROG Ally without losing any data like what you did in this video
Oh so like you need to clone the ally to something else, then clone the flow to the ally current drive?
@@okestgamer Do we able to clone it to HD External Drive?
@@faisalcsat3301 if you're swapping between the two you'll need to backup the data of the Ally somewhere to be cloned again back to the 1tb
Im doing this process bow. Because i don't want to deal with decryption taking hours and id rather redownload my games, i have deleted my games from the original ssd. I'm doing the decryption part now and its stuck at like 5% even without these games on it. Should i just reset to factory settings? I havent changed anything really, just logged unto account, so thats all id really lose which i need to log back in anyways
Another method is to just get your decryption keys to enter when it prompts. I’m not sure why it takes so long for some people’s devices. Mine was 2 min
@@okestgamer if your device was clean it wouldn't take long and if you hadn't logged into OneDrive yet I think. I'm all good now though and have so many games! Thanks for the help!
No problem, it probably was because it wasn’t super full
Hey, so I tried cloning my 512 GB SSD to a new 2 TB Rocket 2230 SSD, but I'm stuck in the BIOS screen. I followed the instructions carefully, but it's not working. When I put my 512 GB SSD back in, it loads normally, and the 2 TB SSD is still readable in the enclosure. I think the cloning process might be messed up.
Does it show up in the bios when you check the boot options? Might be a boot order issue
@okestgamer it's on the main page of the bios, but I'm not seeing it on the boot part it says "there is no bootable device"
@@questioneverything5595 wounds like something went wrong in the cloning. Did you copy all partitions?
Yes, I did. For some reason, the SSD wasn't showing up in my drives' storage, so I had to go to advanced storage, create the drive, and find it through the dock. After that lengthy process, I opened the app, connected it, and meticulously followed your instructions. After I got to the BIOS, I decided I had reached a dead end, so I wiped the drive and tried to do it from scratch, but Windows 11 wasn't booting. I was able to copy about 400 GB worth of storage from my C drive, so I have no idea what the issue is, but I know it has to do with my new SSD.
@@questioneverything5595 I wonder if the key side of the drive is incompatible. That's another potential if the external enclosure reads it but not the device slot
Tried using your video. But the wd black 2tb I purchased is not being detected in the enclosure.
That's kinda odd, I wonder if the key type is not compatible (connector end)
@@okestgamer thought the same thing. I did an exchange at BB on the SSD. Going to see if the first one was causing issues and not the Insignia USB C enclosure.
So what was the verdict?
@@okestgamer it was the ssd I got from Best Buy. I got another from bh photo and installed today with success thanks to your video.
@@HarlemsFinest85 good stuff, glad it worked out
Nice and smooth
Glad it went smoothly for you!
Can i clone the ssd without deleting data to new ssd?( I have samsung ssd laying around and i want keep the data)
You would probably need to setup a new partition. Depends on how the old one is setup. If the old data was isolated to a partition that's extra it probably would work. I could be wrong though.
Would cloud recovery give you all the same data as cloning? I am getting a new ssd and would like it to have all the same settings/apps and everything that my OG one has. New to PC gaming so any advice would help
Honestly the simplest method is cloning, hardest
Part (longest part) is decrypting the drive. You can also just enter your encryption key if you don’t want to decrypt it.
@@okestgamer okay, I heard the whole process of cloning using an enclosure is only like 30min?
It usually is, it’s the decryption that is the part that varies
Do you really need the dock to do the clone? I’ll need to save up some cash if so
I would suggest it, sometimes the cloning process can take a long time and your battery die before it finishes. If yours doesn’t have much info on it, you could probably pull it off without a dock
can't you just clone your ally directly to another PC drive to copy over ? (If you don't have a hardrive Enclosure)
Yes you should be able to do that. This just simplifies the process by doing it all at once.
@@okestgamer Thanks boss! I've just ordered one of those SSD enclosures so I will follow through your way. I'm kinda scared about the battery shorting as I don't know much about that, but will not remove it with metal if i do. You decided not to remove the battery at all, is that what you'd recommend?
Yeah use a plastic tool if you can
So when i download the free trial do I get the 32 bit or the 64 bit version of macrium
Grab the 64
Warning: This may get stuck or take literal hours to complete.
So I started the decryption process and it hasn't moved for about 4 hours now... I can't seem to cancel it either. The Rog is extremely slow now because it's trying to do the decryption in the background.
update: Yeah this sucks. I was in the process of setting it up for RMA (send it back to asus) to get my SD card reader fixed and I can't seem to find a way to stop this decryption process. It's been over 6 hours now and everything is moving slow and lagging. I've read that you can pause it by going to control panel and find the management settings there, but I don't see it. I get a prompt to upgrade my windows to the pro version to perhaps manage it.
update: "FIXED" This may not be helpful seeing the subject of the video, but I was able to get it unfrozen by manually deleting most of my programs and games on the rog ally. I started with World of Warcraft and saw the bar move but then it got stuck again. I ended up deleting all my game files and folders, including shortcuts and after, it started to work. It took about 15 minutes to finish after the manual deletion of most applications.
For me it took 2 minutes, so it seems to vary for each person. Others reported like an hour, but never heard of it being 6 hours
Thank you, I guess I'll be deleting all of my games before starting this process
how big can you go with ssd into a nintendo switch i think its 4tb or 8tb
The Nintendo switch's storage is integrated into the chip as far as I know. You can expand with the SD card slot though
I wish i knew where i went wrong. Had a coworker clone my drive and now neither drive will boot up
The original one won’t boot either? You could always try cloud recovery instead. I have a video on that process as well, of course the bios versions are newer since then, but will still apply with the new bios
Hey man i just turn off my bitlock how long does it take to turn off??
It depends how much you have on it. It took mine 2 min, some have taken a few hours
Hey dude! Do you know of a dock that will output video via type c?? I want to use a touchscreen portable monitor you see but also charge the Ally. Thanks 🙏🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I can give it a test. That portable monitor I have does usb c video
@@okestgamer I have one too but it's having a dock that will output video via type c? All the ones I've seen only output via hdmi 🤔
I’ll test with my nreal air as well
I have the exact same ugreen ssd enclosure but i don't have a powered USB hub. Will it still work? I need to take it back to the shop tomorrow because of the right joystick only moving up and down and no left or right.
It probably will work, the issue is making sure it completes before battery depletion. So make sure you’re charged up
@@okestgamer Awesome thank you. I'll delete most of my games first as I'm only bothered about all the launchers, accounts and emulators.
Yeah can’t hurt to help it speed up
@@okestgamer sorry to be a nuisance but i have one more question, because my joystick is faulty and I'm taking it into the shop (was supposed to today but i was too busy) will the clone be ok in a different Rog Ally? Same hardware? Lol what a pain it is having a faculty device.. I was tempted to buy hall effect joysticks to replace the vanilla Rog sticks instead of taking it back, but my ally is only 2ish months old so I'm taking advantage of the warranty, I still have PSPs and Vita's whose joystick/joysticks are fine even now lol oh well at least my 512gb microsd hasn't broken in the Ally lol.
I’m not 100% sure of whether or not you would have issues in another ally. Different bios and forward updates installed most likely. Plus the windows key might give trouble. I have never tried so I could be saying these things for nothing.
Is that specific dock really essential? Thats like a 200$ dock..did you only get that one cuz of the speeds n compatibility of the ports?
Oh no definitely not. You can use any dock that will allow you to connect a ssd enclosure. This was just to show the optimum speeds
@@okestgamer ah ok gotcha thank you!
No problem
Hello would something like the Qwiizlab USB C Hub with SSD Enclosure, Docking Station for MacBook Air/Pro M1/M2, HDMI 4K@60Hz USB PD 100W Type-C 10Gbps Card Readers 100MB/s, Fits M.2 SATA & NVMe PCIe SSD work instead of the hub and the enclosure?
I believe so, as long as you get adequate power delivery and the ssd enclosure is detected when you boot into windows you should be fine
@@okestgamer cool thank you :)
No problem
Do you have to decrypt bitlocker before you do the install? For some reason the macrium reflect clone page won’t detect my new ssd in the enclosure??
It’s Detected it via a restart, I’ve done the install process but it keeps coming up with error regarding the last two partitions and hasn’t cloned my recovery and my Asus, anyway to resolve this?
Keeps coming up with an error 8.. even when I thought everything was installed and changed over ssd’s.. just keeps coming with error on blue page when turned on and keeps going over and over, had to put the current one back in to get it to work.. dont understand why it won’t work and what I need to do to resolve this?? Please help
Hmm I’ve never encountered that issue. I do recommend decrypting during the process. Had you decrypted?
@@okestgamer yes I’ve done the decryption, I’m using the Corsair mp600 mini but every time after the install I keep getting an error #8.. have no idea why it won’t work
@@okestgamer I have decrypted yes
For some reason mines goes to 50% and fails what am I doing wrong
Did you decrypt the drive?
@@okestgamer no but I was still able to do it without decrypting. It was failing because I had unselected the first two options before the drive
Do i even need a dock i have the one the rog has i bought separate
It’s more in case you run out of power, or if you need to manually update the bios. You could give it a try without, worst case scenario you throw your old ssd back in and try again later
Why macrium reflect takes super long time to download?
It didn’t for me, maybe a glitch?
How long does it take to Decrypt(disable bitlocker)? I started the process over an hour ago and only 3% have progressed.
I guess it depends how much you have on the device. For me it took about 1 minute. Others have reported a few hours
Dude I'm still here after an hour ....would have been quicker to reinstall everything considering I didn't have much to begin with, I just didn't want to run updates again...but geez
@@JCDenton. yeah I’ve been hearing some people have had Long processes. Of you look at my clock in the video it took less than 2 min for me (12:40 am -12:42 am)
@@okestgamerupdate: after nearly 4 hours it completed. I just left it alone and let it complete. I now have to install it and should be good to go. Scary but it seemed to have worked.
@@JCDenton. glad it worked out then. Maybe I’ll add a note to the pinned comment, seems like some others had similar experiences
Do u need a dock?
Strongly recommend it so you don't run low on power. Cloning on occasion takes longer than expected
I found out you can bypass the 3 screws by plugging it in
The more you know
Oh that's good to know, I hadn't tested that.
Is the Docking Station necessary for this clone?
It's highly recommended. If you have a full battery you may be able to get through the cloning without a dock. I've seen some cloning take a few hours, so that's why I recommend
@@okestgamer OK, great. I never thought of that. I purchased it but thought I might not need it after all. Guess I won't be returning it then. Lol
Yeah it’s handy to have anyways, now you can dock to a tv
My cloning failed. And the software no longer recognizes the 2TB drive. I am attemptig to reformat it and try it again. Would you have any idea why it would fail? @@okestgamer
Hmm I’ve had that happen once, did you have the drive encrypted?
Anyone can help me,
I already upgrade my ssd to 1TB using this method..
But my problem is, i want using my old SSD rog Ally, and put it into enclosure.
But its cant be read in partition wizard
So the old SSD from the ally isn't working in an enclosure?
@@okestgamer yes sir... I put old SSD to enclosure, and connect to PC, ITS not working..
Sorry the app didn't notify me of the message. Likely the old drive is encrypted so you'll need to do the decryption process on it
How to add bitlocker back??
I'm pretty sure you return to the same settings menu where you disabled to re-enable.
I don’t need to tell bios it’s a new ssd for windows boot?
You shouldn't need to
Awesome thanks!!
@@derekgoff4328 no problem
Your enclosure didn't get super hot?
No I didn’t have any issues, there is also the thermal pad that can be added if needed.
Why does my 2tb only detect as a 512 gb
Most likely you have partitions that are in allocated. This should be easy to merge into your main partition. You can do this in disk format
@@okestgamer yeah thanks man! That was the reason I am new to this and this was a big help
@@cincyryda not a problem, glad to
Help
Do i have to enable the encryption again?
It’s up to you. I did not
do you really need a dock for this?
You can try without, however the process can take many hours and you risk your battery dying mid clone.
@@okestgamer can I just charge the ally while doing it
@@minhha658 you can with a dock. The ally only has one usb c port which is why I am suggesting a dock. Even a usb c splitter that allows power delivery should do
Why do it say 500gbs stil plz help I upgrade to 2tb
You probably just need to realize the main partition. Check disk utility and see if you can resize it
I followed the steps but now my connection are moving very slow
@@josephrussell2316 the decryption process can take awhile depending on how much you have on the ssd and how long you’ve used it. It can take anywhere from 2 minutes, to 12 hours
Best. Video. Ever.
Thanks man, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
I did the swap and the my pc still shows 512 gb even though it's a 2tb.
I wonder if it didn’t adjust the partition size. You should be able to extend it
@@okestgamer
I tried, but I think I accidentally made a secondary disk (D) for the other 1.5tb while messing with storage options beforehand. Someone told me I should still be able to download to and play games from the secondary disk, so I should be fine I suppose.
Oh yeah that will work fine. Some devices have that defaulted and I’ve always done exactly that with the second partition.
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thats literally not a guitar pick FYI. it's just a pry tool.
Yeah I mention guitar pick as some won't have that tool, so a guitar pick can serve the same purpose.
I wonder what this stupid bit locker is. I had to enter a long code in my laptop 😮
Yeah it’s a pain, that’s why I did in decryption on mine
Myasus refuses to open now. Deleted and re-download but no go
That’s very bizarre, it shouldn’t have an impact by having a cloned drive in
@@okestgamer I would have thought so too. Everything so far works. But the my Asus app won’t open. I’ve uninstalled it twice and reinstalled it and nothing
@@Oldmurray9323 and it worked fine just prior to the cloning?
@@okestgamer yes even did the bios update through it.
Man I honestly have never heard of this issue happening. Everything else works?
The disable encryption step is stupid. This will take for more than a day and I dont think, I am able to stop this process.
It depends how much data, and how long You've been using it. Some reported 12 hours, mine took 2 minutes
It says 475 gbs
Why instruct people to go through the hours long process of decrypting their pc when the decryption key is so easy to obtain? 3 minute fix vs 4 hour fix.
People can always do the encryption key way as well. It’s 4 hours for some yes, for me it took under 2 min for the decryption.
@@okestgamerI understand that this person is giving you a slightly shitty attitude but I'd say it's worth pinning a comment about this.
I started the decryption about an hour ago and it's only about 5% complete. If I'd known that this could be avoided, I wouldn't have done it this way...
Great video btw 👍
@@sicksparrow7023 it is actually the pinned comment.
How and where do we find the decryption key
I’m stuck in a bootloop 😭
I wonder if the boot order is messed up. You could check in the bios