Kinda felt they did this video to say it can happen even know it can i also feel the hair thing feels like the most stupid reason to say even know unlike the other z films this one can but Bardock the father of goku cant due to super broly following the manga plot now
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Apparently Trunks' hair color was a mistake made by Toei Animation. Trunks always was supposed to have blue hair, but for some reason, they didn't bother to fix it until Dragon Ball Super, but somehow Kid Trunks still has purple hair? Idk anymore
i mean half of the decisions surrounding goten and kid trunks are tied to marketability anyway so it's probably just "people are used to it and marketability is all the higher ups care about"
Krillin might not look like much but he's actually one of the stronger non-Saiyan Z-Fighters, and he's very tactical and resourceful. The Androids probably figured this out and decided better safe than sorry.
Doesn't matter how resourceful he is, he's still Fodder for even 1 of the androids. My guess is,they no diff'ed him and killed him out of sheer amusement because he wasn't putting up much of a fight after a little while,and because he started to "bore" them 💯
well your right dude,i prefer future trunks from z more than super, infact future trunks from z can problaly beat future trunks from super casualy ,character development matters no power level no zenkai boosts,no nothing,character development matters the most
Tf wdym? Trunk's in Z is way worse than supers, frist off he dose almost nothing, he beats frieza and give goku the heart medicine, then becomes useless for the rest of the arc intell the end, he loses to the androids, couldn't stop cell from absorbing 18, fell for cell solar flare twice in a row, didn't know that grade 3 was useless even tho he should of realized that in the time chamber. The only character development he got in Z was learning the basic principles of fighting, (which is speed and power, not one over the other) and dosen't do anything in the arc intell the end, honestly super in the anime (and especially in the manga) did him way better and made useful, and not just have him be useless or a punching bag, like in the super manga, he holds of goku black for goku and vegeta to escape even tho he's heavily out match, and was prepared to die for it.that's way better than be cells/ the androids punching bag and him giving up against cell because he was usless.
@@HotFootBunny wdym, dbs future trunks is far Worse than z future trunks, atleast he had character development while dbs future trunks dosent have good character development, he dosent even feel like him from z, and i said Z future trunks wins for character development
@@refth6893 no he dosen't, in super he learns to fight for himself without help and shouldn't rely on goku/vegeta[vegtio?](in the manga and the anime he's the one to get the final hit on regular zamsu), what dose he learn and develop in Z? Not to be useless? Cause he only wins in the future because the frist time because he became over power and the androids and cell wouldn't be able to handle him, he dosen't learn anything or grow, he basically useless for the entire arc after he get s introduced, he didn't beat the androids in the present, didn't beat cell, didn't learn anything, didn't grow, he was basically useless, tien and krillen did more than trunks, and they really didn't really do anything either.
@@refth6893 And its a good thing he dosen't feel like himself from Z, his Z self didn't do anything or learn anything, besides from learning the basics of fighting and that his dad loves him, other that he's a useless punching bag intell hee go's back to the future where he's overpowered. He dosen't win by learning something, he wins by fucking going back in time and getting stronger than androids so the aren't a threat, that's how he wins, not by learning something, but by cheating by going back in time and train with the Z fighters then comeback, how's that character development?
I still find it hilarious that Trunks' hair is blue because of meta reasons, not even in-universe reasons. Like they just pretend Kid Trunks isn't even there.
I think It's Because Bulma's Hair Was Purple In A Lot Of Colored Chapters Early In Dragon Ball, But Changed To Blue. It Could Be A Reference To That, Or It Could Be That Trunks's Hair Color Changed From Age, Because Bulma's Hair Didn't Change To Blue Until She Hit Around Young Adult I Think. It'd Make Sense.
Then It Changed To Purple Right After The First Chapter, Also In Some Covers Her Hair Would Flip Back To Blue. That's What I Meant By It Being A Reference To Bulma Directly.
That’s a terrible accusation as both Trunks and Bulma’s hair has always been known to change. In the manga both Trunks and Bulma have purple hair, in the animes Bulma has green hair and Trunks has purple, in some colored manga Trunks has red hair, and Super both Trunks and Bulma have blue hair
Toriyama was trying to fix kid trunks hair during the character design phase by making it the same color as Bulma's. The staff changed i back, then kept the updated design on Future Trunks for some reason.
@@costby1105 my point is that Bulma and Trunks’s hair is one of the biggest inconsistencies in the series and isn’t that creditable when discussing canon
This was well worth the wait. I do find Trunks' entire timeline a weird plot hole in and of itself. Given how King Kai managed to co-ordinate everyone with wishes at the end of the Namek saga, it makes little sense that any of the deaths stuck besides Goku's. And even the later additions of the "body for a day" thing and Supreme Kai just make it downright implausible the Androids could ever win.
Only Baba can bring you back from the dead for the one day so if she's gone that isn't an option. Also, there's no reason New Namek would have been called. The Androids aren't bothering the universe or even the solar system. They are giving planet Earth a problem. The Namekian Dragon Balls are only ever needed if the universe is at stake and even they're rarely used.
@@Malthizar Bring back Piccolo for one day, restoring the Dragon Balls. Then, wish for more Namekians for Piccolo to absorb, thus powering him up enough to kill the Androids dead.
You KNOW Goku was juicing in Otherworld. And even if he found himself unable to come back via Baba, Vegeta would have gotten on that grind ASAP. King Kai would stall out the wish as long as possible, then bring back Piccolo, wish the Earth Dragon Balls to be gathered before him, wish the Earth to be restored, and then Piccolo uses the Earth Dragon Balls to revive everyone killed by the Androids. Vegeta would probably have gotten Grade 2 by juicing with Goku on King Kai's planet all this time, and so would obliterate the Androids and then Cell. Shin can be dismissed by the fact that Shin is fucking useless, but unless the Androids went and killed King Kai, there's no way things would happen like that. Bulma probably would make the time machine at Vegeta's request, wanting to be able to fight his rival in one final battle. By donning a disguise, courtesy of Capsule Corp, Future Vegeta goes back to the past reveals Super Saiyan, then reveals Grade 2, finally gets to kill Freeza, takes Goku aside, reveals himself to Goku, gives him the medicine, and tells him about what Grade 2 is.
I like to imagine that King Kai and Goku were always watching what is happening there, they just don't show for us. Like, who the hell makes that "Spirit Bomb" on episode 66 of Dragon Ball Super if Trunks didn't know how to do it? Just think about it.
@Malthizar To further prove this, they are androids so no one can sense thier ki. Not the Namekians or even King Kai so they wouldn't know about the androids
The thing that's hilarious is even though it's now anime canon that Future Trunks has blue hair and always did, Present Trunks still has the same purple hair he did back in Z. Aside from living in different timelines, they're both the same person.
I would have understood the random hair change if this was secretly some galaxy brain plan to make F. Trunks a mainstay character. If they were to do that, making his hair different from kid Trunk's would totally make sense as it would make identifying the two easier when Kid Trunks inevitably gets older. Too bad F. Trunks would rather live in a world with another F. Trunks than in the world that follows on DBZ/DBS.
@@Jesse110 It makes sense that they would want to try to keep use of him to a minimum so they can focus on building up Present Trunks. So far though, he's mostly been a background character. It would be nice if future seasons could find a way to stop making it the Goku and Vegeta show and give Gohan and the others the spotlight they deserve. Maybe do the occasional arc where Goku and Vegeta are busy training on Beerus's planet or visiting the Universe 6 Saiyans, leaving the others to fend for themselves. There's a lot of really cool potential for Goten and Trunks if they are allowed to get some spotlight for character development. As Gotenks, they could even outshine Gohan at his best, and they have come to fuse so casually and often that they could even be the only outlet possible for us to see further levels of fusion as a result of mastery of the technique. Perhaps they could find ways of making the fusion last longer, or draw out more power from it in the time they have, or etc.
@@firestriker3580 They are. Future Trunks is from a timeline where Goku died to the heart virus and the Androids killed most everyone else. His original timeline got destroyed by Zeno, and he's now living in an alternate version of it that wasn't ravaged by Goku Black with an alternate version of himself. Present Trunks is part of the main story's prime timeline, which was saved from Goku dying from the heart disease and the Androids by Future Trunks' time traveling back into it, as well as some interference by Cell.
Well... Are they? Think about it. When Future Trunks got to the main timeline, Bulma wasn't pregnant yet. Unless people are destined to be born in the DB universe, Future Trunks and Present Trunks CANNOT be the same person. Yes, they're both named Trunks and they look alike, but they're not the same individual. That would explain the difference in hair color.
Surprised you didn't mention how they showed the correct version of it in episode 52 of Dragon Ball Super. They got the correct hair colour and everything.
@@DragonBallUniversity The Super anime is also in a weird half way spot, it SAYS it follows manga continuity, yet frequently references anime filler only stuff like Bulma frog or the Garlic Junior saga's Maron. The scene they show in Super of Trunks is a useless "fix" because it recreates a Special only scene, just with "corrected" hair color. He was already SSJ in the manga version, no "awakening" needed.
@@clockstomper What I do remember is an Episode where Chi-Chi gets angry and has a red, Kaioken-like aura around her, which also seemed like a reference to the Garlic Jr. Arc.
fun fact, before bulma had blue hair, it was purple in dragon ball. Akira Toriyama stated himself that its a form of aging, as weird as that sounds. so its just a form of aging. Akira Toriyama has written weirder stuff but going from purple to blue is cannon.
For Toriyama, Both Trunks and Bulma have purple hair, Bulma's is more commonly blue due to her hair being made blue in the anime, I believe the reason was miscommunication early on, same reason in early Z Vegeta had brown hair for afew episodes, but Bulma's blue hair was well established before Toriyama has done his own coloring for the manga so it remained. Thats why Trunk's hair was still purple in Z, because thats what color it was supposed to be and they knew that when they started the trunks appearance. Why is it blue in super? Honestly no idea, I assumed they were just going for "lets make both of them have blue hair and be done with it" but kid trunks still has purple hair so it's just bizzare tbh.
Trunks's future never seems to mention that Goku could've potentially spoken to Gohan from the Afterlife through King Kai and given him advice, like we've seen before (even Yamcha and the others did this long before the Android Saga.)
@@salazarcosplay Exactly! I guess you could make up all the head canons you want, but I guess the most logical explanation is that Toriyama just didn't think of that. I mean, there's a lot of Dragon Ball content, it's bound to happen. I think he was even asked by a fan why Goten and Trunks were never seen with tails, and he said that he just forgot that Saiyans had tails!
So, Dragon Ball Z and Kai can't happen either due to Trunks having purple hair there? And, by extention, Dragon Ball Super, due to Kid Trunks having purple hair?
I thought you were gonna bring up the manga version which is completely different because there was a manga version of the story and the details are vastly different
Trunks is already able to turn Super Saiyan prior to Gohan's death. Gohan is still missing an arm and still knocks out Trunks before his showdown with the androids. Everything else is additional information that Akira Toriyama never wrote.
I wouldn't say it's vastly different. The anime simply alters mostly minor things. But overall, the anime version is pretty faithful to the original manga counterpart.
The creator himself said "things like hair color isn't important", then he gave android 18 purple hair. Actually happened, but quickly corrected. There's even a screenshot out there somewhere.
It seems clear to me that this video was only meant to troll us. For HOT not to happen over the studio's hiring of an animator favoring purple over blue and vice-versa was quite funny.
This one is a stretch. It's fairly well known that Toriyama always envisioned both Trunks and Bulma's hair color to be blue, but since the manga was traditionally black and white, it was never shown outside of the covers. When the manga finally made it to full color anime in the early Dragon Ball days, the animators messed up and gave Bulma green hair. This is actually a cultural problem as the Japanese often use the same word to describe both blue and green. Several poorly subbed anime will mix up the two colors - case in point, the "wait for the light to turn blue before crossing!" meme. Toriyama has always been famously lackadaisical about enforcing his own canon, so he didn't correct anyone when Bulma's hair color was changed for the anime. The same happened when Trunks was finally introduced with purple hair - it was just a rogue animator's decision that Toriyama never bothered to counter and became tradition clear up until Super fixed the inconsistency for both characters.
Actually they made Bulma’s hair blue in the anime and the very beginning and didn’t fix both of there hairs in super. And Toriyama always envision Bulma and Trunks hair to be purple. Even Bulla. Just read the full color comics of the manga.
The problem here is that Toei consistently messed up the colors of things in the original run of DB and DBZ, the first scene with Vegeta, his hair is red before they fixed it to black. Not only that, Bulma's hair was originally purple but Toei made it blue and stuck with it, then they made Trunks hair purple only to fix it in Super.
What's really trippy is that the Trunks we see on 17's island with Goten in DBS is the same age as the Trunks that discovered Gohan's dead body and went Super Saiyan. So the Buu saga Trunks not only more easily achieved Super Saiyan, he also aged slower for seemingly no reason. I've theorized that maybe Saiyans grow faster in times of conflict and slower in times of peace, but Trunks is really the only data point for that theory. In DBS: Super Hero, Trunks and Goten do mention that Saiyans stay small until having an insane growth spurt at some point, but that doesn't explain why two versions of Trunks reached that growth spurt at different times.
I'm surprised they didn't point out the discrepancy between Trunks talking to Cell about it and what was shown in the special. When Trunks was talking to Cell he specifically mentioned Vegeta was the first to be killed, where as in the special it's explicitly stated that Piccolo was. Also worth pointing out that Bulma was originally supposed to have the same hair colour as Trunks' from Z when the manga was created, I don't recall why it was changed in the anime
@@christiancinnabars1402 That or he was after Trunks specifically. Didn't an out of practice Gohan supply Babidi with half of the energy to revive Buu?
The best part of this whole thing is that Trunks' backstory is the only special that actually happened in the manga, albeit with a few changes like Trunks turning super saiyan after Gohan's death (an improvement tbh, there aren't really any good first SSJ awakenings in the manga after Goku). Also the only clear answer to this predicament is that in the Briefs family hair changes with age, hence why Bulma has purple in the manga and blue in the anime. Count on Super to mess everything up lol
The Androids weren't harassing the universe. The gods have to have a level of impartiality. Unless the Androids were planning to leave earth and wipe out other planets, there'd be no reason to say anything. Also King Kai can't even sense the Androids since they don't have a ki signature
Well, there's some pieces missing. First, kid Trunks' hair - It's purple Second, By the time Goku Black arrived (based on the anime) , the city basically appeared to be extremely close to being completely reconstructed, and knowing how the trade routes do shit and that they require resources which costs money, so selling was the only choice and since we have like a 9 year gap between the end of the androids and black, there's plenty of time to restore stuff. There's an incredibly high chance that hair dye is available basically, so your point about hair dye is partially or completely annulled. Third, kid Trunks' hair is still purple. So was Bulma's hair, cuz different canons and whatnot. And that's it. Also, a point for you: Gohan is the one who has more potential than anyone among the fighters, so its weird how Gohan isn't much stronger than Trunks when he went back in time. And that's rly it now.
The hair color change was officially clarified and if you see the young Trunks has purple hair at 4:46. It is also stated in the series that because Trunks isn't full saiyan is why his hair can grow and change unluck pure saiyans.
Even Toriyama himself is aware that he just mixed up Trunk's and Bulma's hair sometimes so that's the reason their hair color changes, even in the manga.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I thought I was gonna hate this cause Trunks is my Goat but this was funny and 🔥 the swerve at the end being the hair and the end of the video I dropped like a Dbz character when somebody does or said sum off the wall 😂 SUBBED
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@@Crow_Rising maybe in real life but as a manga character who is being older and wishes to stay young, I can't believe that she wouldn't have mastered how to make blue hair dye to keep her gray hairs from showing.
@@Axedroid True but that doesn't mean she hasn't made a wish we don't know about in the past. For example, she could have already wished for her hair to never lose it's color.
When a time traveler other than trunks kicks a rock, Everyone's hair will randomly evolve, revert, and revolve into Lssj, Ssg, Ssb, Ssj, and various other hair color changing forms.
I like to think that when zamasu used the time ring, it split up the dbz trunks timeline into the dbs trunks. Like the trunks from dbz is still there and living in a peaceful life and never fought goku black while dbs trunks was fighting black for a year before going back in time. So basically the trunks from dbz aint the same one from super
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By the time of Battle of Gods, Akira Toriyama had begun coloring both Trunks & Bulma with blue hair- not purple. While Toei kept kid Trunks' hair purple, Future Trunks' hair was made blue to match his modern character design
That was some grade A bullshit my friend. It takes a certain finess to create such high quality bullshit and then to call one self out on it. It is amaxing and I salute you
id agree on this if it weren't for 2 flaws, bulmas hair was at one point purple like trunks too, before late becoming more blue, and as for nobody questioning it, Vegeta did (technically) saying how they were working hard in the past to obtain super Saiyan blue and all he did was dye his hair
yeah but he could have gotten the same weird hair thing from his mom. Bulma's hair started out purple when she was younger in Dragonball and then in DBZ it became blue, and is even more blue now in Super. I guess they fixed this with Bulla being born off the bat with blue hair but maybe a consistent hair color and a big forehead are what she inherited from her father.
It’s Dragon Ball Super that’s not canon, not History Of Trunks. We know that because Future Trunks came back with purple hair multiple times in DBZ, so it makes ZERO sense for DBS Future Trunks to have blue hair. Conclusion: DBS is not canon, GT is the actual canon sequel, and History Of Trunks is canon along with it.
Ok, most of these theories video's I could agree with. But not the tv specials, like this one. This one I believe is part of the manga. It was even part of the Z anime and Super. This one definitely did happen.
Idk hair color to me sounds like a dumb reason for it to be not canon, especially when trunks always had purple hair till super changed it, something that in my eyes was unnecessary as everyone was used to him with purple hair and honestly i like it more than his blue hair which looks off to me But honestly this to me is canon. It fills in why trunks went back in time and shows why trunks had super sayain and we get to see his struggles in the future.
You couldn't have said it better. If Trunks having purple hair in the canon Android/Cell Saga and young Trunks also having purple hair ALL throughout the Majin Buu Saga and ALL of Dragon Ball Super, then you're gonna write those off events that can't happen? I find this video stupid because of it.
Me thinking this was a serious video for 95% of it xD
@Draybolt4
He had me until four minutes in...
Kinda felt they did this video to say it can happen even know it can i also feel the hair thing feels like the most stupid reason to say even know unlike the other z films this one can but Bardock the father of goku cant due to super broly following the manga plot now
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Apparently Trunks' hair color was a mistake made by Toei Animation. Trunks always was supposed to have blue hair, but for some reason, they didn't bother to fix it until Dragon Ball Super, but somehow Kid Trunks still has purple hair? Idk anymore
I've just accepted my own fan theory that their genetics make their hair go from purple to blue as they grow older.
i mean half of the decisions surrounding goten and kid trunks are tied to marketability anyway so it's probably just "people are used to it and marketability is all the higher ups care about"
@@BevvRatBites in flash backs in super his hair is blue but in kai its purple don't know why
@@BevvRatBites A lot of real people go from blonde to brown/black so that makes sense.
@@BevvRatBites Why not hair dye?
Did they really need to both blast to kill Krillin? Just seems like overkill
Krillin might not look like much but he's actually one of the stronger non-Saiyan Z-Fighters, and he's very tactical and resourceful. The Androids probably figured this out and decided better safe than sorry.
@@Crow_Rising I feel like this was more for the "Destructo disc's" and were like "ya not gonna find out what that can do"
Doesn't matter how resourceful he is, he's still Fodder for even 1 of the androids.
My guess is,they no diff'ed him and killed him out of sheer amusement because he wasn't putting up much of a fight after a little while,and because he started to "bore" them 💯
18 couldn’t bring herself to do it alone so 17 helped her
@@diobrando8961 Lol no.Im like 100% sure Future 18 had no problem offing Krillin😴
Man, Trunks has to be the unluckiest character in Dragon Ball. Seriously, what they did to him in Super is just terrible.
well your right dude,i prefer future trunks from z more than super, infact future trunks from z can problaly beat future trunks from super casualy ,character development matters no power level no zenkai boosts,no nothing,character development matters the most
Tf wdym? Trunk's in Z is way worse than supers, frist off he dose almost nothing, he beats frieza and give goku the heart medicine, then becomes useless for the rest of the arc intell the end, he loses to the androids, couldn't stop cell from absorbing 18, fell for cell solar flare twice in a row, didn't know that grade 3 was useless even tho he should of realized that in the time chamber. The only character development he got in Z was learning the basic principles of fighting, (which is speed and power, not one over the other) and dosen't do anything in the arc intell the end, honestly super in the anime (and especially in the manga) did him way better and made useful, and not just have him be useless or a punching bag, like in the super manga, he holds of goku black for goku and vegeta to escape even tho he's heavily out match, and was prepared to die for it.that's way better than be cells/ the androids punching bag and him giving up against cell because he was usless.
@@HotFootBunny wdym, dbs future trunks is far Worse than z future trunks, atleast he had character development while dbs future trunks dosent have good character development, he dosent even feel like him from z, and i said Z future trunks wins for character development
@@refth6893 no he dosen't, in super he learns to fight for himself without help and shouldn't rely on goku/vegeta[vegtio?](in the manga and the anime he's the one to get the final hit on regular zamsu), what dose he learn and develop in Z? Not to be useless? Cause he only wins in the future because the frist time because he became over power and the androids and cell wouldn't be able to handle him, he dosen't learn anything or grow, he basically useless for the entire arc after he get s introduced, he didn't beat the androids in the present, didn't beat cell, didn't learn anything, didn't grow, he was basically useless, tien and krillen did more than trunks, and they really didn't really do anything either.
@@refth6893 And its a good thing he dosen't feel like himself from Z, his Z self didn't do anything or learn anything, besides from learning the basics of fighting and that his dad loves him, other that he's a useless punching bag intell hee go's back to the future where he's overpowered. He dosen't win by learning something, he wins by fucking going back in time and getting stronger than androids so the aren't a threat, that's how he wins, not by learning something, but by cheating by going back in time and train with the Z fighters then comeback, how's that character development?
I still find it hilarious that Trunks' hair is blue because of meta reasons, not even in-universe reasons. Like they just pretend Kid Trunks isn't even there.
I think It's Because Bulma's Hair Was Purple In A Lot Of Colored Chapters Early In Dragon Ball, But Changed To Blue. It Could Be A Reference To That, Or It Could Be That Trunks's Hair Color Changed From Age, Because Bulma's Hair Didn't Change To Blue Until She Hit Around Young Adult I Think. It'd Make Sense.
@@AriesUchiha Except that Bulma had purple hair all the way to the end of z saga in the manga
@@franciscomuniz3307 You May Have Forgotten In The First Chapter Her Hair Was Blue.
Then It Changed To Purple Right After The First Chapter, Also In Some Covers Her Hair Would Flip Back To Blue. That's What I Meant By It Being A Reference To Bulma Directly.
That’s a terrible accusation as both Trunks and Bulma’s hair has always been known to change. In the manga both Trunks and Bulma have purple hair, in the animes Bulma has green hair and Trunks has purple, in some colored manga Trunks has red hair, and Super both Trunks and Bulma have blue hair
Trunks and bulma been pulling out the hair dye before goku and vegeta did.
Wdym Green hair, bulma had blue hair in The anime not green
@@refth6893 it’s a teal green
Toriyama was trying to fix kid trunks hair during the character design phase by making it the same color as Bulma's. The staff changed i back, then kept the updated design on Future Trunks for some reason.
@@costby1105 my point is that Bulma and Trunks’s hair is one of the biggest inconsistencies in the series and isn’t that creditable when discussing canon
That was awesome! I can feel my hair changing color as I type this!
Omg before I watched the video I assumed you meant this by going super saiyan. Total new meaning post vid
This was well worth the wait. I do find Trunks' entire timeline a weird plot hole in and of itself. Given how King Kai managed to co-ordinate everyone with wishes at the end of the Namek saga, it makes little sense that any of the deaths stuck besides Goku's. And even the later additions of the "body for a day" thing and Supreme Kai just make it downright implausible the Androids could ever win.
Only Baba can bring you back from the dead for the one day so if she's gone that isn't an option. Also, there's no reason New Namek would have been called. The Androids aren't bothering the universe or even the solar system. They are giving planet Earth a problem. The Namekian Dragon Balls are only ever needed if the universe is at stake and even they're rarely used.
@@Malthizar Bring back Piccolo for one day, restoring the Dragon Balls. Then, wish for more Namekians for Piccolo to absorb, thus powering him up enough to kill the Androids dead.
You KNOW Goku was juicing in Otherworld. And even if he found himself unable to come back via Baba, Vegeta would have gotten on that grind ASAP.
King Kai would stall out the wish as long as possible, then bring back Piccolo, wish the Earth Dragon Balls to be gathered before him, wish the Earth to be restored, and then Piccolo uses the Earth Dragon Balls to revive everyone killed by the Androids.
Vegeta would probably have gotten Grade 2 by juicing with Goku on King Kai's planet all this time, and so would obliterate the Androids and then Cell.
Shin can be dismissed by the fact that Shin is fucking useless, but unless the Androids went and killed King Kai, there's no way things would happen like that.
Bulma probably would make the time machine at Vegeta's request, wanting to be able to fight his rival in one final battle. By donning a disguise, courtesy of Capsule Corp, Future Vegeta goes back to the past reveals Super Saiyan, then reveals Grade 2, finally gets to kill Freeza, takes Goku aside, reveals himself to Goku, gives him the medicine, and tells him about what Grade 2 is.
I like to imagine that King Kai and Goku were always watching what is happening there, they just don't show for us. Like, who the hell makes that "Spirit Bomb" on episode 66 of Dragon Ball Super if Trunks didn't know how to do it? Just think about it.
@Malthizar To further prove this, they are androids so no one can sense thier ki. Not the Namekians or even King Kai so they wouldn't know about the androids
The thing that's hilarious is even though it's now anime canon that Future Trunks has blue hair and always did, Present Trunks still has the same purple hair he did back in Z. Aside from living in different timelines, they're both the same person.
I would have understood the random hair change if this was secretly some galaxy brain plan to make F. Trunks a mainstay character. If they were to do that, making his hair different from kid Trunk's would totally make sense as it would make identifying the two easier when Kid Trunks inevitably gets older. Too bad F. Trunks would rather live in a world with another F. Trunks than in the world that follows on DBZ/DBS.
@@Jesse110 It makes sense that they would want to try to keep use of him to a minimum so they can focus on building up Present Trunks. So far though, he's mostly been a background character. It would be nice if future seasons could find a way to stop making it the Goku and Vegeta show and give Gohan and the others the spotlight they deserve. Maybe do the occasional arc where Goku and Vegeta are busy training on Beerus's planet or visiting the Universe 6 Saiyans, leaving the others to fend for themselves.
There's a lot of really cool potential for Goten and Trunks if they are allowed to get some spotlight for character development. As Gotenks, they could even outshine Gohan at his best, and they have come to fuse so casually and often that they could even be the only outlet possible for us to see further levels of fusion as a result of mastery of the technique. Perhaps they could find ways of making the fusion last longer, or draw out more power from it in the time they have, or etc.
They aren’t living in different timelines
@@firestriker3580 They are. Future Trunks is from a timeline where Goku died to the heart virus and the Androids killed most everyone else. His original timeline got destroyed by Zeno, and he's now living in an alternate version of it that wasn't ravaged by Goku Black with an alternate version of himself.
Present Trunks is part of the main story's prime timeline, which was saved from Goku dying from the heart disease and the Androids by Future Trunks' time traveling back into it, as well as some interference by Cell.
Well... Are they? Think about it. When Future Trunks got to the main timeline, Bulma wasn't pregnant yet. Unless people are destined to be born in the DB universe, Future Trunks and Present Trunks CANNOT be the same person. Yes, they're both named Trunks and they look alike, but they're not the same individual. That would explain the difference in hair color.
Surprised you didn't mention how they showed the correct version of it in episode 52 of Dragon Ball Super. They got the correct hair colour and everything.
That whole situation was such a mess. I somehow feel like I simultaneously mentioned too much and too little. Thanks for watching!
@@DragonBallUniversity The Super anime is also in a weird half way spot, it SAYS it follows manga continuity, yet frequently references anime filler only stuff like Bulma frog or the Garlic Junior saga's Maron. The scene they show in Super of Trunks is a useless "fix" because it recreates a Special only scene, just with "corrected" hair color. He was already SSJ in the manga version, no "awakening" needed.
@@clockstomper Wait, Bulma the Frog and Maron were in Super? I don't remember either of that.
@@auditect950 yeah, in the episodes with Tagoma during the Golden Freeza arc.
@@clockstomper What I do remember is an Episode where Chi-Chi gets angry and has a red, Kaioken-like aura around her, which also seemed like a reference to the Garlic Jr. Arc.
Adding this to the many reasons I hate being color blind……
Seriously! I was so confused when people were emphasizing his blue hair in Super. I was like “Yeah, like it’s always been?”
fun fact, before bulma had blue hair, it was purple in dragon ball. Akira Toriyama stated himself that its a form of aging, as weird as that sounds. so its just a form of aging.
Akira Toriyama has written weirder stuff but going from purple to blue is cannon.
For Toriyama, Both Trunks and Bulma have purple hair, Bulma's is more commonly blue due to her hair being made blue in the anime, I believe the reason was miscommunication early on, same reason in early Z Vegeta had brown hair for afew episodes, but Bulma's blue hair was well established before Toriyama has done his own coloring for the manga so it remained. Thats why Trunk's hair was still purple in Z, because thats what color it was supposed to be and they knew that when they started the trunks appearance. Why is it blue in super? Honestly no idea, I assumed they were just going for "lets make both of them have blue hair and be done with it" but kid trunks still has purple hair so it's just bizzare tbh.
@@ihateeveryone8161 and future trunks has gotten older, to showcase this, they made his hair blue, simple :T
The real reason is because Future Bulma has no way to get the crystal she needs for the time machine without the dragon balls.
Trunks's future never seems to mention that Goku could've potentially spoken to Gohan from the Afterlife through King Kai and given him advice, like we've seen before (even Yamcha and the others did this long before the Android Saga.)
Either of them could had used their 1 day pass to bail out Trunks but did not
@@salazarcosplay Exactly!
I guess you could make up all the head canons you want, but I guess the most logical explanation is that Toriyama just didn't think of that.
I mean, there's a lot of Dragon Ball content, it's bound to happen. I think he was even asked by a fan why Goten and Trunks were never seen with tails, and he said that he just forgot that Saiyans had tails!
The Androids killed king kai too just roll with it
@@sweeeeeeeeeeeeee That just brings up even more questions!
@@bowmaj8666 They also killed Majin Buu and Dabura but then revived them before they were killed so Trunks could give them a fair shot
So, Dragon Ball Z and Kai can't happen either due to Trunks having purple hair there? And, by extention, Dragon Ball Super, due to Kid Trunks having purple hair?
Yes
@@MVShadow-ke2ho Not if you look at the covers.
It's likely Kid trunks dyed it.
Actually Super's future trunks could be argued to be a different person than the one from z
@@theyounggodlobo Why so?
I thought you were gonna bring up the manga version which is completely different because there was a manga version of the story and the details are vastly different
really like what
@@fukb0y Trunks goes SSJ while training against Gohan, but blacks out and forgets he ever did.
That's the most notable difference, honestly.
Trunks is already able to turn Super Saiyan prior to Gohan's death. Gohan is still missing an arm and still knocks out Trunks before his showdown with the androids. Everything else is additional information that Akira Toriyama never wrote.
I wouldn't say it's vastly different. The anime simply alters mostly minor things. But overall, the anime version is pretty faithful to the original manga counterpart.
This is way better than the manga
The creator himself said "things like hair color isn't important", then he gave android 18 purple hair. Actually happened, but quickly corrected. There's even a screenshot out there somewhere.
It seems clear to me that this video was only meant to troll us. For HOT not to happen over the studio's hiring of an animator favoring purple over blue and vice-versa was quite funny.
Oh this’ll be interesting, I’ve always assumed it was canon based on the manga but I suppose there could be some-
“Lets talk about hair color”
DAMN IT
This one is a stretch. It's fairly well known that Toriyama always envisioned both Trunks and Bulma's hair color to be blue, but since the manga was traditionally black and white, it was never shown outside of the covers.
When the manga finally made it to full color anime in the early Dragon Ball days, the animators messed up and gave Bulma green hair. This is actually a cultural problem as the Japanese often use the same word to describe both blue and green. Several poorly subbed anime will mix up the two colors - case in point, the "wait for the light to turn blue before crossing!" meme.
Toriyama has always been famously lackadaisical about enforcing his own canon, so he didn't correct anyone when Bulma's hair color was changed for the anime. The same happened when Trunks was finally introduced with purple hair - it was just a rogue animator's decision that Toriyama never bothered to counter and became tradition clear up until Super fixed the inconsistency for both characters.
Actually they made Bulma’s hair blue in the anime and the very beginning and didn’t fix both of there hairs in super. And Toriyama always envision Bulma and Trunks hair to be purple. Even Bulla. Just read the full color comics of the manga.
Accept that in the Manga Bulma has purple hair.
This video is clearly a joke.
The problem here is that Toei consistently messed up the colors of things in the original run of DB and DBZ, the first scene with Vegeta, his hair is red before they fixed it to black. Not only that, Bulma's hair was originally purple but Toei made it blue and stuck with it, then they made Trunks hair purple only to fix it in Super.
As someone who doesn’t think super is cannon this is 100% accurate.
Canon doesn't even matter to Dragon ball anymore. SDBH and Xenoverse supports that its an infinite timeline with infinite possibilities.
What's really trippy is that the Trunks we see on 17's island with Goten in DBS is the same age as the Trunks that discovered Gohan's dead body and went Super Saiyan. So the Buu saga Trunks not only more easily achieved Super Saiyan, he also aged slower for seemingly no reason. I've theorized that maybe Saiyans grow faster in times of conflict and slower in times of peace, but Trunks is really the only data point for that theory. In DBS: Super Hero, Trunks and Goten do mention that Saiyans stay small until having an insane growth spurt at some point, but that doesn't explain why two versions of Trunks reached that growth spurt at different times.
I'm surprised they didn't point out the discrepancy between Trunks talking to Cell about it and what was shown in the special. When Trunks was talking to Cell he specifically mentioned Vegeta was the first to be killed, where as in the special it's explicitly stated that Piccolo was.
Also worth pointing out that Bulma was originally supposed to have the same hair colour as Trunks' from Z when the manga was created, I don't recall why it was changed in the anime
You could probably just say that his hair color changed over time when he got older so it could still be Cannon
Imagine babidi coming to earth looking for energy to awaken buu and all he sees are androids with no energy
That part is shown in Dragon Ball Super. Trunks kills Babidi
He didn't go to Earth to find energy. He went to Earth to retrieve Buu himself. He would have just went off somewhere else to steal energy.
@@christiancinnabars1402 That or he was after Trunks specifically. Didn't an out of practice Gohan supply Babidi with half of the energy to revive Buu?
The best part of this whole thing is that Trunks' backstory is the only special that actually happened in the manga, albeit with a few changes like Trunks turning super saiyan after Gohan's death (an improvement tbh, there aren't really any good first SSJ awakenings in the manga after Goku). Also the only clear answer to this predicament is that in the Briefs family hair changes with age, hence why Bulma has purple in the manga and blue in the anime. Count on Super to mess everything up lol
Anyone else notice that grown Future Trunks dresses like a mixture between 17 and 18🤔🤔
I fucking died when you showed the clip of Kevin. Awesome as always.
So basically this movie is canon
I dont see why King Kai couldn't tell Bulma where New Namek was so they couldve revive Piccolo and revive everyone else
The Androids weren't harassing the universe. The gods have to have a level of impartiality. Unless the Androids were planning to leave earth and wipe out other planets, there'd be no reason to say anything.
Also King Kai can't even sense the Androids since they don't have a ki signature
@@Malthizar still they might've the future versions were more destructive than and evil than the Present versions
The androids might shoot down any shot at escaping for any reason.
Young Trunks in Super had purple hair. The animation just fudge it that’s all. It’s 100% part of the story of what happens to Trunk’a timeline.
Well, there's some pieces missing.
First, kid Trunks' hair - It's purple
Second, By the time Goku Black arrived (based on the anime) , the city basically appeared to be extremely close to being completely reconstructed, and knowing how the trade routes do shit and that they require resources which costs money, so selling was the only choice and since we have like a 9 year gap between the end of the androids and black, there's plenty of time to restore stuff. There's an incredibly high chance that hair dye is available basically, so your point about hair dye is partially or completely annulled.
Third, kid Trunks' hair is still purple. So was Bulma's hair, cuz different canons and whatnot.
And that's it.
Also, a point for you:
Gohan is the one who has more potential than anyone among the fighters, so its weird how Gohan isn't much stronger than Trunks when he went back in time.
And that's rly it now.
My color blind ass never noticed anything was off with his hair lol
The hair color change was officially clarified and if you see the young Trunks has purple hair at 4:46. It is also stated in the series that because Trunks isn't full saiyan is why his hair can grow and change unluck pure saiyans.
Even Toriyama himself is aware that he just mixed up Trunk's and Bulma's hair sometimes so that's the reason their hair color changes, even in the manga.
What is the song playing for most of this?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I thought I was gonna hate this cause Trunks is my Goat but this was funny and 🔥 the swerve at the end being the hair and the end of the video I dropped like a Dbz character when somebody does or said sum off the wall 😂 SUBBED
...I want the last five minutes of my life back.
Ur wish has been granted, farewell
Trunks time traveling caused the Mandela effect 🤯
Its Canon to all the Colorblind Fans of DragonBall.
Wait? So bulma is a genius with the capability to make a time machine but she's unable to make blue hair dye?
Not every cook can program, not every construction worker can farm, and not every movie director is a scientist. Just because you are really smart or good at something doesn't mean you can do anything.
@@Crow_Rising maybe in real life but as a manga character who is being older and wishes to stay young, I can't believe that she wouldn't have mastered how to make blue hair dye to keep her gray hairs from showing.
@@Axedroid Why should she? She can just wish the years away using the dragon balls.
@@Crow_Rising it's the future trunk's time line
@@Axedroid True but that doesn't mean she hasn't made a wish we don't know about in the past. For example, she could have already wished for her hair to never lose it's color.
How was I absolutely certain this video was at least 15 minutes long, I'm pretty sure I just got timeline-switched by watching this
I mean, it's considered canon by Toriyama so I'm curious. Also, I fucking LOVE your narration. It's so nostalgic of the English Dub.
I always assumed Trunks was from an alternative universe especially since he went back and nothing changed other then how strong he was.
this is proof that Super takes place on an alternate timeline to Z.
I got fully suckered into that, and I was not disappointed in the slightest
When a time traveler other than trunks kicks a rock,
Everyone's hair will randomly evolve, revert, and revolve into Lssj, Ssg, Ssb, Ssj, and various other hair color changing forms.
I like to think that when zamasu used the time ring, it split up the dbz trunks timeline into the dbs trunks. Like the trunks from dbz is still there and living in a peaceful life and never fought goku black while dbs trunks was fighting black for a year before going back in time. So basically the trunks from dbz aint the same one from super
A thought just occurred to me:
Broly is out there somewhere in Future Trunks' timeline.
He probably stayed on that backwater planet with his dad until the whole timeline was erased
I've always preferred the lilac hair on Trunks.
Holy shit is this actually happening. I was invested after being hopeful after being disappointed watching the movie marathon. Damn yo I was actually looking foward to watching this channel more but idk if ima enjoy thought provoking intros only to be blue balled
Video is a few years old and got chosen for some reason by the algorithm gods. The series is re-launching 5/23. I’m revisiting all the movies and talking about what I got wrong and what’s updated since then. Hope you enjoy.
@@DragonBallUniversity damn i think I will, I respect that you actually took the time to respond
I appreciate the constructive criticism. You said what upset you about the video not just “LOL you suck”. Comments like these actually help us know how to make better content. Channel update video Sunday at noon that’ll give an idea of our schedule going forward. Thanks again. 🐉
@@DragonBallUniversity Dude THANKYOU
So many people see long non positive comments and assume that oh they're ranting and a hater, I've seen so much valuable criticism been ignored on discussion pages and its almost unsettling
Idk nice breathe of fresh air to see a content creator aknowlage something I was fully expecting to be brushed aside.
Idk if gaming vids are for me in terms of dragon ball content as I saw on the channel
But you bet ima check out this series arc discussions as I can sense the time and focus put into them.
@@laary7589 Gaming is just easy to produce compared to discussions. Hence so much of it. But to save you the hassle if it’s not your thing...
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"his hair has always been blue" then proceeds to have a shot with lavender trunks next to blue trunks. ok
What's the song at 2:37?
I'm from the future and it did indeed happen
Well now you have to do why the dragon ball z show never happened bc Trunk’s hair is purple in the show as well.
well trunks always looks at gohan remembering about the master of his time so it can happen
This is one mighty fine troll job.
I never understood why they call 17 and 18 androids when they are cyborgs humans with cybernetic enhancements
"Vastly superior Dragon ball Super"
That's the exact moment you lost my attention.
Bravo!
Been a long time huh
It's happen ....offside of the TV....he also tells the brief story
I grew up thinking Trunk's hair was grey
Anyone knows the music used from 2:38 until the credits?
Figured this one is obvious since his plot is literally making sure his future doesn't happen in their timeline
I was hoping he'd bring up the manga saying that Trunks was a super Saiyan long before Gohan died.
By the time of Battle of Gods, Akira Toriyama had begun coloring both Trunks & Bulma with blue hair- not purple. While Toei kept kid Trunks' hair purple, Future Trunks' hair was made blue to match his modern character design
@@maelhendrixson3508 i think you need to reevaluate your definition of a retcon
Even though I totally disagree with all you just said, I loved the video, how did you do that??
I spend the entire explanation laughing and waving my middle fingers at the screen. Thank you!
I spent it earning ad revenue because you didn’t click something else. Thank you!
@@DragonBallUniversity Anytime! Your content is amazing!
I mean that and the complete paradox behind his time travel actions.
This sounds more like an April Fools video
It's actually explaining why Super isnt cannon
That was some grade A bullshit my friend. It takes a certain finess to create such high quality bullshit and then to call one self out on it.
It is amaxing and I salute you
My main thing is, there are flashbacks to the android saga in dbs and he has purple hair, making his purple hair canon.
So what trunks just dyed his hair blue. That doesn't mean that history of trunks can't happen.
id agree on this if it weren't for 2 flaws, bulmas hair was at one point purple like trunks too, before late becoming more blue, and as for nobody questioning it, Vegeta did (technically) saying how they were working hard in the past to obtain super Saiyan blue and all he did was dye his hair
2:28
"Why hope can't happen"
So then that means dbz itself cant happen if trunks hair was purple/pink throughout the android and cell saga
0:05
Sounds like "It's been a year daddy" from Quandale Dingle 💀
Best video
So basically History of trunks is cannon in your eyes.
yeah but he could have gotten the same weird hair thing from his mom. Bulma's hair started out purple when she was younger in Dragonball and then in DBZ it became blue, and is even more blue now in Super. I guess they fixed this with Bulla being born off the bat with blue hair but maybe a consistent hair color and a big forehead are what she inherited from her father.
It’s Dragon Ball Super that’s not canon, not History Of Trunks. We know that because Future Trunks came back with purple hair multiple times in DBZ, so it makes ZERO sense for DBS Future Trunks to have blue hair.
Conclusion: DBS is not canon, GT is the actual canon sequel, and History Of Trunks is canon along with it.
Bulma created a time machine, you don’t think she can make some hair dye?
The BearenSTAIN bear, im fucking dead
Trunks does come back from the future again he travels to an alternate timeline which makes no sense
Seriously I watched this whole video just for u to say his hair is the reason
Actually. . . . .it happened, there was a mini Manga of Trunks backstory with this OVA
his hair just gets lighter in the summer
Lol I thought the blue hair was like “almost” super saiyan god blue, but not quite there yet.
Bro I was so ready for a keyboard fight right here in this comment section LOL
This is a super sad but amazing part of dbz UnUv
Ok, most of these theories video's I could agree with. But not the tv specials, like this one. This one I believe is part of the manga. It was even part of the Z anime and Super. This one definitely did happen.
I thought this was Why The History of Trunks Can't Happen, not Why Dragon Ball Super Can't Happen
Hey when will you try to explain why the movie vegeta's brother is in can't happen
Bold of you to assume I would consider Super as canon.
Idk hair color to me sounds like a dumb reason for it to be not canon, especially when trunks always had purple hair till super changed it, something that in my eyes was unnecessary as everyone was used to him with purple hair and honestly i like it more than his blue hair which looks off to me
But honestly this to me is canon. It fills in why trunks went back in time and shows why trunks had super sayain and we get to see his struggles in the future.
You couldn't have said it better. If Trunks having purple hair in the canon Android/Cell Saga and young Trunks also having purple hair ALL throughout the Majin Buu Saga and ALL of Dragon Ball Super, then you're gonna write those off events that can't happen? I find this video stupid because of it.
Another timeline
Multiverse theory is a bitch
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I like to think that the older trunks gets the more blue his hair gets because im pretty sure in the manga bulmas hair was purple for a little bit