The chairs make sense though, seeing how Micholash chained himself to a chair to perform the ritual to enter/create the nightmare. Also, we call them the lanterns (well, they are), but it's actually the bells that do the transporting (via resonant frequencies across planes of existence). The lantern just highlights the location of the bells. We use bells too to cross over into other realms. Even enemies use bells to summon beasts (like the bell maidens with those blasted red spiders).
Boring? This is awesome interesting stuff. Not once did I think chairs were used in early game design. This would give some idea how Micolash entered the Nightmare of Mensis. "Fear the old chairs." - Since they could send us to any nightmare.
Yeah, the chair thing makes sense. It gives more weight to the corpses with cage hats in chairs too. When I played through, I saw them as vaguely creepy set peices. Ew, that guy sat there and let himself die. Why. But if falling asleep in a chair was how I, the player went back and forth from the hunter's dream (in a similar, slumped pose), i would see those guys who died dreaming and be like. Oh my god, could that be what is happening to MY body somewhere?
That last line is actually creepy. What if you teleported and then later on came back to that lantern by walking and say your character sitting there? Or a decayed version of them?
I think the chairs make more sense than the lanterns. We go to the Hunters' Dream, how do we get to the dream, we sit down and fall asleep. I think they could have made the chairs work but would have had to add a little more to make them stand out. They could have set the chairs in basins that appear to have water, you either make it so light is shining up out of the basin like it is kinda of a portal or you could give it that Tomb Mold Cosmos particle effect so it stand out(I did not pull the water basin under the chair out of my butt, there is a guy in Yahar'gul on the streets that is sitting in such a setup but appears to have melted. Water is also mentioned as a barrier for reaching the dream).
An Evil Stripper Yes. That was definitely supposed to symbolize you entering someone else's dream, mirroring your own way of travelling to the Hunter's Dream. Maybe the corpse would also transport you to one of the nightmares?
they probably though it would "blend in too much" with the environment and make it difficult to tell apart from other "normal objects" . Although they could had overcome this issue by and making them more unique and perceptible if they fused the lanterns and the chains together. (Like every chair with a hanging light somewhere.
I get why they went with lanterns, but I agree they should have added a unique lighting effect on them so they're easy to see. It would be much more flavorful to travel to dreams and nightmares by using chairs as opposed to a lantern.
Sean Clark Yes and no. There isn’t any specific lore created for Bloodborne expounding on the chairs, that is correct. But in other works, certain novels and arcane literature for instance, concepts like these certainly do have established backstory. I only meant it would have been interesting to hear From’s take on these ideas. In the end, yeah, it’s just a chair. But it’s fascinating to think about what they could have done with it.
@Sean Clark Chairs make more sense than lanterns. If anything, the lanterns seem like a concession they had to make because of technical problems. Whenever we see people in the waking world who are in a dream, they are sitting in a chair. Take Micolash who we see mummified in a chair that we warp to the nightmare from. Now please, tell me again how chairs don't fit into the lore. Like..... what?
Joe Bailey in another video (I think one of VaatiVidya’s?) someone makes an interesting observation that it may not be the lanterns themselves that have anything to do with warping, but rather the bells attached to the lantern stem. It’s been proposed that the lantern part itself is only there to draw the player’s attention to the bells. This idea has some merit as bells are used to summon/invade as well. Just a neat observation u may not be aware of.
I was aware of that one actually. In my opinion, the explanation that since a chair is something you can sleep on and therefore it's how you access dreams is much more simple and elegant as it is supported by in-game evidence. I do agree that the lanterns could've been a gameplay concession to draw the player since chairs don't emit light and come in a variation of styles based on the area whereas lanterns are alway the same shape and are always glowing purple. The variation in the chair's styles would make them difficult to discern compared to normal chairs plus it looks like there was some serious clipping with the hunter's set when sitting in them. Its sad that they were scrapped but I can see why they did it.
Joe Bailey True. Micolash, the choir member in the cell in Ya’haar Gu’ul, Martyr Logarius, Queen Annalise, even Lady Maria and Saint Adelaide are all in chairs. It’s clear the chair was always intended to be part of the lore in some way shape or form.
Thanks for watching, even when it's not ground-breaking lore revelations, even the little things can sometimes be intriguing! There are also "Broken" versions of a few chairs, I'm really sorry I didn't include those. I felt this video went on long enough :) I'll sneak them into a future video.
it's still interesting to see some of the older ways the game was meant to work and models more importantly thank you for taking the time to make a video and not keeping it to yourself ;)
I think it's interesting to explore the thematic relevance of things like these, and consider why they went with the changes they did. This video in particular was fascinating to me, so thank you.
With a game like Bloodborne even the minutia holds my interest, so I say keep at it. I've recommended to Sanadsk that a video on various filenames for objects with lore implications would be good to see, i.e. the giant gravestones in forbidden woods being called 'great one tombstone' or something like that. You definitely wouldn't find me complaining if you made a video on that subject. Ay? Aaaay?
I also watched a video of Sanadsk with unused dialogue and even they are amazing to listen, I saw another perculiar thing about a pic of Gehrman. See him sitting in his wheelchair remembered me at least with a part of, of your chair video. Somehow it looks very similar.
I wonder if the model holding the skull was going to be an interaction where you pick up Madman's Knowledge, like the Forbidden Woods gatekeeper, maybe even the body used for all the item pickups like that.
I honestly think the game over all design suffered a bit from ditching not one, but those three. The chairs make imense sense to visit dreams and nightmares, as it seems you are going to sleep. I can see the statues working for chalice dungeons. And I can also see the men with skulls working for specific things like acessing someone else's nightmare, gaining insight, or it actually being the trigger for Laurence's battle in the DLC (seems early but Maria was also an early scrap, it would seem)
I thought the chair video you originally showed seemed quite dull but now that you've brought it back and wrapped it up int his sort of narrative way to keep your 'journey of discovery' going it's excellent. This was one of my favourite videos so far. Not that I'm far yet. Thanks for all your work. Subbed.
No shit I was gonna message you last night to ask if you wanted to do guest voice-over on this video because I was having a really hard time finding time to do the commentary hahha.
I like every tiny bit of unused Bloodborne content! It shows the history and the making progress on the game. Also i think the chairs were a very interessting thing. Honestly it works almost better with the theme of Bloodborne and the circle of dreams and nightmares. Great work! Please go on in showing every single piece of this wonderful game.
While I appreciate these videos greatly, I feel it's my duty to let you know you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to let others do the work for you, and then stretch them out to ten minutes apiece for monetization reasons. ;) In all seriousness, thank you for this series!
NO CUT CONTENT IS EVER BORING! Thank you so much for sharing such interesting finds on a game that could have been SO MUCH MORE had they had more time and effort put into it :D
I love your vids man. Upload whatever you want, even if it is a little boring, I'll still love them(that was supposed to be a compliment). I just wish your vids were a bit longer tho, but I'm sure its hard to make them.
I find this sort of thing a little more interesting than some of the cut enemies, actually. Some of the cut dialog suggests that Bloodborne was once very, very different, and the chairs kind of make sense for my perception of what that draft may have looked like.
Guys upvote this please! RESTORE THE TRAP DOOR ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF BYRGENWERTH! it's a hidden area, you cant write on it; saving on top of it, later loads you to the side. Restore please, WE WANNA KNOW!..
I think the 'dead villager' thing you showed at the end was probably used to hold Madman Knowledge items. I could see them probably holding the skull and the effect applied to it probly would have been flames, akin to the item icon
I think the Lanterns are supposed to be Incense Burners. Mayne causing the smell that people call Hunters “Moon Scented.” It could be how the Messengers would find us and transport us to the dream.
It'd be so creepy if you could walk to a chair you warped from and see your character sitting there sleeping, or if more time passed your character's corpse.
the only other skulls in the game that I recall are laurence's skull which activates his boss fight and the chalices with skulls on them. so that cropse cradling a skull may have had something to do with one of those.
The chairs make sense thematically. You would sit in a special chair to fall asleep and return to Hunters Dream, and could then reawaken in other chairs. Not sure how lanterns fit thematically now that I think about it. Maybe just lighting your way forward, giving you a place to rest, similar to the idea of Bonfires in Dark Souls.
The warp chair, at least to me, makes more sense as a way to enter the hunters dream. Maybe they removed it to make the aesthetic of transportation more mysterious
Perhaps the kneeling man holding the skull is the physical body of Gehrman, holding laurence's skull or something similar? Would be neat to think that Gehrman took his now useless corpse with him into the dream somehow and yadayada cool lore stuff lol
yeeess, please this. I'm so curious to see what she looks like. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a lame placeholder face since it was never meant to be seen but you never know until you investigate.
I like the chair idea, seeing as Micolash used a chair to transcend the Nightmare of Mensis. I think it's boring now because they're placed weird. If the chairs were to be used, they'd have to place them correctly and put some type of candles or lanterns around the chair so they aren't easy to miss.
Perhaps they changed the chairs into lanterns to make checkpoints stand out more. That warp statue from the trailer reminds me of the Archstones from Demon's Souls. In that game the "bonfires" were pieces of glowing rock pierced with a sword. So maybe that was another idea before they decided to distance it from Demon's Souls.
This makes much more sense to me now...the warp point after the One Reborn fight felt so out of place. Considering the dream motif, I really prefer the chair idea more. I’m sure Logarius’s throne was supposed to be the warp point. So cool.
I really like the chairs and how it ties into the concept of the Hunter's dream, but the placement of the chairs look a little out of place in some of the areas (the area before the hemick fight comes to mind). This probably could've been fixed with a change to the chair placement, but I like the look of the laterns in the final game compared to the chairs.
I’d love to know why they swapped over to lanterns. I think the lanterns work well and sitting in a fancy chair that warps you around us a little awkward but I love it
That awkward moment when you find this kind of content more interesting than cut bosses or enemies........ For me this is more interesting, since it shows an earlier and very different concept for the teleportation system that is a huge part of the game. It gets the cogs turning in my brain more than seeing cut enemies, makes me wonder about the ways they would have been implemented or how it would have related to the game's lore.
So, for the Chairs, was the idea sort of to reinforce the dream aspect of Bloodborne by having you literally fall asleep to go anywhere? Seems like the case and, thinking about, I'm not sure if I prefer the Lanterns or the Chairs.
Great job on another thoroughly interesting video, but where is everyone getting this idea that chairs have lore significance? I've seen plenty of people citing Micolash's physical body sitting in a chair. But I mean, it's just practical, would you want to be endlessly dreaming while standing up? I think people are ascribing a little too much importance on a common piece of furniture. Micolash doesn't enter the dream by using a special chair, he just dreams. "I'm waking up! I'll forget everything!" He's referring to how he's in the physical world, sleeping. If he was "Teleported" to the nightmare realm by a chair, he wouldn't forget everything when he wakes up. Y'know, like how a lot of people (myself included) don't remember their dreams when they wake up? Also, if he was teleported to the nightmare realm by a chair why would his physical body still be sitting in it? As for the chairs in the place of lanterns. It might have just been a placeholder. I imagine that FromSoft would have carried some animation data across from previous games so they could have a solid baseline to build from (since most if not all Soulsborne games are functionally similar) and a sitting down animation most likely would have been among them. I think there's more validity to the statue warping instead since they have more of a visual distinction and cohesiveness with the Hunter's Dream aesthetic. And they were also shown in early build trailers. In a way though, the chairs really are interesting, because while I don't personally believe they carry any lore significance, they give us a nice window into the development strategies of FromSoft. And in a sense, a different kind of history to look at for a fascinating game like Bloodborne.
The chairs make sense though, seeing how Micholash chained himself to a chair to perform the ritual to enter/create the nightmare. Also, we call them the lanterns (well, they are), but it's actually the bells that do the transporting (via resonant frequencies across planes of existence). The lantern just highlights the location of the bells. We use bells too to cross over into other realms. Even enemies use bells to summon beasts (like the bell maidens with those blasted red spiders).
I like how there were different chairs for different locations. Like the Cainhurst chair looked way nicer then the Hemwick one
I don't find Bloodborne cut content boring at all regardless of what it is
Boring? This is awesome interesting stuff. Not once did I think chairs were used in early game design. This would give some idea how Micolash entered the Nightmare of Mensis.
"Fear the old chairs." - Since they could send us to any nightmare.
Sedentary lifestyle really can send people to all kinds of nightmares)
This ain't funny no more
Yeah, the chair thing makes sense. It gives more weight to the corpses with cage hats in chairs too. When I played through, I saw them as vaguely creepy set peices. Ew, that guy sat there and let himself die. Why.
But if falling asleep in a chair was how I, the player went back and forth from the hunter's dream (in a similar, slumped pose), i would see those guys who died dreaming and be like. Oh my god, could that be what is happening to MY body somewhere?
That last line is actually creepy. What if you teleported and then later on came back to that lantern by walking and say your character sitting there? Or a decayed version of them?
I think the chairs make more sense than the lanterns. We go to the Hunters' Dream, how do we get to the dream, we sit down and fall asleep. I think they could have made the chairs work but would have had to add a little more to make them stand out. They could have set the chairs in basins that appear to have water, you either make it so light is shining up out of the basin like it is kinda of a portal or you could give it that Tomb Mold Cosmos particle effect so it stand out(I did not pull the water basin under the chair out of my butt, there is a guy in Yahar'gul on the streets that is sitting in such a setup but appears to have melted. Water is also mentioned as a barrier for reaching the dream).
No matter the cut content, I always find it interesting! ^-^
Those chairs reminded me of how Micolash teleports us.
An Evil Stripper Yes. That was definitely supposed to symbolize you entering someone else's dream, mirroring your own way of travelling to the Hunter's Dream. Maybe the corpse would also transport you to one of the nightmares?
I think they should’ve stuck with the chairs, its neat
they probably though it would "blend in too much" with the environment and make it difficult to tell apart from other "normal objects" .
Although they could had overcome this issue by and making them more unique and perceptible if they fused the lanterns and the chains together. (Like every chair with a hanging light somewhere.
I get why they went with lanterns, but I agree they should have added a unique lighting effect on them so they're easy to see. It would be much more flavorful to travel to dreams and nightmares by using chairs as opposed to a lantern.
At least it explains why theres chairs everywhere, and the mensis dudes strapped into theirs.
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Jepprey Stilthool hey come on man this stuff needs to be investigated. I'm going to stop writing now because I have a sore shoulder blade. Thank you.
I found this far more interesting than the cut enemies. This is somewhat lore-related and therefore fascinating from a story perspective
Sean Clark Yes and no. There isn’t any specific lore created for Bloodborne expounding on the chairs, that is correct. But in other works, certain novels and arcane literature for instance, concepts like these certainly do have established backstory. I only meant it would have been interesting to hear From’s take on these ideas. In the end, yeah, it’s just a chair. But it’s fascinating to think about what they could have done with it.
@Sean Clark Chairs make more sense than lanterns. If anything, the lanterns seem like a concession they had to make because of technical problems. Whenever we see people in the waking world who are in a dream, they are sitting in a chair. Take Micolash who we see mummified in a chair that we warp to the nightmare from. Now please, tell me again how chairs don't fit into the lore. Like..... what?
Joe Bailey in another video (I think one of VaatiVidya’s?) someone makes an interesting observation that it may not be the lanterns themselves that have anything to do with warping, but rather the bells attached to the lantern stem. It’s been proposed that the lantern part itself is only there to draw the player’s attention to the bells. This idea has some merit as bells are used to summon/invade as well. Just a neat observation u may not be aware of.
I was aware of that one actually. In my opinion, the explanation that since a chair is something you can sleep on and therefore it's how you access dreams is much more simple and elegant as it is supported by in-game evidence. I do agree that the lanterns could've been a gameplay concession to draw the player since chairs don't emit light and come in a variation of styles based on the area whereas lanterns are alway the same shape and are always glowing purple. The variation in the chair's styles would make them difficult to discern compared to normal chairs plus it looks like there was some serious clipping with the hunter's set when sitting in them. Its sad that they were scrapped but I can see why they did it.
Joe Bailey True. Micolash, the choir member in the cell in Ya’haar Gu’ul, Martyr Logarius, Queen Annalise, even Lady Maria and Saint Adelaide are all in chairs. It’s clear the chair was always intended to be part of the lore in some way shape or form.
Thanks for watching, even when it's not ground-breaking lore revelations, even the little things can sometimes be intriguing! There are also "Broken" versions of a few chairs, I'm really sorry I didn't include those. I felt this video went on long enough :) I'll sneak them into a future video.
it's still interesting to see some of the older ways the game was meant to work and models
more importantly thank you for taking the time to make a video and not keeping it to yourself ;)
I think it's interesting to explore the thematic relevance of things like these, and consider why they went with the changes they did. This video in particular was fascinating to me, so thank you.
With a game like Bloodborne even the minutia holds my interest, so I say keep at it. I've recommended to Sanadsk that a video on various filenames for objects with lore implications would be good to see, i.e. the giant gravestones in forbidden woods being called 'great one tombstone' or something like that. You definitely wouldn't find me complaining if you made a video on that subject. Ay? Aaaay?
I also watched a video of Sanadsk with unused dialogue and even they are amazing to listen, I saw another perculiar thing about a pic of Gehrman. See him sitting in his wheelchair remembered me at least with a part of, of your chair video. Somehow it looks very similar.
I wonder if the model holding the skull was going to be an interaction where you pick up Madman's Knowledge, like the Forbidden Woods gatekeeper, maybe even the body used for all the item pickups like that.
Sargeras Terrorfire Or a means of traveling to areas that were flashbacks, similar to what happens with Laurence’s skull
That's an interesting idea too, could have been an interesting way to have flashbacks instead of reading notes maybe?
I honestly think the game over all design suffered a bit from ditching not one, but those three. The chairs make imense sense to visit dreams and nightmares, as it seems you are going to sleep. I can see the statues working for chalice dungeons. And I can also see the men with skulls working for specific things like acessing someone else's nightmare, gaining insight, or it actually being the trigger for Laurence's battle in the DLC (seems early but Maria was also an early scrap, it would seem)
I thought the chair video you originally showed seemed quite dull but now that you've brought it back and wrapped it up int his sort of narrative way to keep your 'journey of discovery' going it's excellent. This was one of my favourite videos so far. Not that I'm far yet. Thanks for all your work. Subbed.
Thank you so much ahah! It was genuinely awesome to discover things slowly and finally get such a cool result and see the chairs working!
Thank you for posting this! You are the best!
No shit I was gonna message you last night to ask if you wanted to do guest voice-over on this video because I was having a really hard time finding time to do the commentary hahha.
Oh snap! Did you know I can do accents? Only 2 though.
This really re-contextualizes the ending in which you take Gehrman's place.
I think the lamps look better aesthetically and fit in more with the Souls/bonfire motif. Interesting to see though.
I like how every chair looks unique, fitting to its location.
Having a chair in the Nightmare Frontier seems kind of ridiculous.
The weirdest part of Bloodborne alpha: Pressing Circle to interact with things instead of X
Oh that's just because the system is set to Japanese defaults. That can be changed internally. It affects all versions of Bloodborne.
If affects dodge as well, it confuses me and I die a lot heh.
Its exactly those small things and details that pick my interest the most! (That's why Castlevania SOTN is wth it is today)
Keep them coming!
This chairs remind me of the ones in Yahar'gul with Micolash's minions with heads in cages. It propably was more important to the lore.
This was very interesting! I'm just interested in every element of this game. Thanks for taking the time to make and share this video!
IMO any new info/content is never boring! Love all your vids on this stuff
I like every tiny bit of unused Bloodborne content! It shows the history and the making progress on the game. Also i think the chairs were a very interessting thing. Honestly it works almost better with the theme of Bloodborne and the circle of dreams and nightmares. Great work! Please go on in showing every single piece of this wonderful game.
This is genuinely interesting, even moreso than the hidden enemies. Thanks for doing the hard work exploring these enigmas.
While I appreciate these videos greatly, I feel it's my duty to let you know you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to let others do the work for you, and then stretch them out to ten minutes apiece for monetization reasons. ;) In all seriousness, thank you for this series!
NO CUT CONTENT IS EVER BORING! Thank you so much for sharing such interesting finds on a game that could have been SO MUCH MORE had they had more time and effort put into it :D
I enjoy all of your videos on cut content. Even smaller ones. I'd love to see this kind of thing for all the DS games and other games out there too.
Maybe a visible Madman's Wisdom in the held skull?
Maybe that guy is where you'd go to cash in your "Madman's Knowledge/Great One's Wisdom",
serving a similar function to the Doll and the Blood Echoes~
I love your vids man. Upload whatever you want, even if it is a little boring, I'll still love them(that was supposed to be a compliment). I just wish your vids were a bit longer tho, but I'm sure its hard to make them.
Quite cute that the warp chair actually have different designs for various areas and not just one set staple.
I for one love learning about this kind of cut content as well as enemies and bosses.
I find this sort of thing a little more interesting than some of the cut enemies, actually. Some of the cut dialog suggests that Bloodborne was once very, very different, and the chairs kind of make sense for my perception of what that draft may have looked like.
I love that they had a uniquely designed chair for each area.
chairs made more sense in traveling between dreams. You fall asleep and proceed deeper into the nightmares with each
as always thank you for these videos and the work you put into them dude!
Holy shit, I don't know if this is old news or not, but i've never heard of it. Totally wild.
I know this is a year old but that man at the end looks like the 'contract' guy at the beginning of the game's character creation scene
Falling asleep on a chair would be cool, but they had to make it look as cool as the lanterns or bonfires somehow
How badass would it be to fucking sit down and dissolve into dust to get to the hunters dream
I wish we had better teleportation. I hate going to the dream just to warp to somewhere else.
Guys upvote this please! RESTORE THE TRAP DOOR ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF BYRGENWERTH! it's a hidden area, you cant write on it; saving on top of it, later loads you to the side. Restore please, WE WANNA KNOW!..
I bet the chairs were a way for the player to sleep and enter the hunters "Dream"
If Blighttown had a chair, it would have been an outhouse
It makes sense since the hunter must sleep to acess the hunters dream
I mentioned this before, glad it got addressed, Honestly thought the warp chairs fit better into the atmosphere.
I think the 'dead villager' thing you showed at the end was probably used to hold Madman Knowledge items. I could see them probably holding the skull and the effect applied to it probly would have been flames, akin to the item icon
I'm sure you get tons of comments, but I wanted to let you know this is the reason, THIS VIDEO, is the reason I subbed. 😂
is awesome man, show us everything!
I guess the idea is that you go to sleep in the chairs to return to the Hunter's Dream? Makes sense(ish).
I think the Lanterns are supposed to be Incense Burners. Mayne causing the smell that people call Hunters “Moon Scented.” It could be how the Messengers would find us and transport us to the dream.
It'd be so creepy if you could walk to a chair you warped from and see your character sitting there sleeping, or if more time passed your character's corpse.
Very interesting. Thanks as always
These videos are great!
the only other skulls in the game that I recall are laurence's skull which activates his boss fight and the chalices with skulls on them. so that cropse cradling a skull may have had something to do with one of those.
The chairs make sense thematically. You would sit in a special chair to fall asleep and return to Hunters Dream, and could then reawaken in other chairs. Not sure how lanterns fit thematically now that I think about it. Maybe just lighting your way forward, giving you a place to rest, similar to the idea of Bonfires in Dark Souls.
3:49 based on the DAUGHTER I found for it
02:09 James Bond sat on that chair.
The warp chair, at least to me, makes more sense as a way to enter the hunters dream. Maybe they removed it to make the aesthetic of transportation more mysterious
Perhaps the kneeling man holding the skull is the physical body of Gehrman, holding laurence's skull or something similar?
Would be neat to think that Gehrman took his now useless corpse with him into the dream somehow and yadayada cool lore stuff lol
May you show Gratia’s model face from the dlc?
yeeess, please this. I'm so curious to see what she looks like. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a lame placeholder face since it was never meant to be seen but you never know until you investigate.
i think the "chair" idea it was mutch more cooler than lantern's
They look comfy
I like the chair idea, seeing as Micolash used a chair to transcend the Nightmare of Mensis. I think it's boring now because they're placed weird. If the chairs were to be used, they'd have to place them correctly and put some type of candles or lanterns around the chair so they aren't easy to miss.
The corpse holding the skull could be Laurence. Maybe it was a way to originally enter the DLC, or a way into his boss arena?
I think the original plan was that the player character would go to sleep in the chair to go to the Hunters Dream instead of teleporting via lanterns.
2:10 is that the Lechiffre torture chair from Casino Royale?
Kind of makes you think about the fact that Gehrman's in a wheelchair, doesn't it...?
Perhaps they changed the chairs into lanterns to make checkpoints stand out more.
That warp statue from the trailer reminds me of the Archstones from Demon's Souls.
In that game the "bonfires" were pieces of glowing rock pierced with a sword.
So maybe that was another idea before they decided to distance it from Demon's Souls.
Boring nothing! Stuff like this is amazing. Gained 1 Insight!
This makes much more sense to me now...the warp point after the One Reborn fight felt so out of place. Considering the dream motif, I really prefer the chair idea more. I’m sure Logarius’s throne was supposed to be the warp point. So cool.
I really like the chairs and how it ties into the concept of the Hunter's dream, but the placement of the chairs look a little out of place in some of the areas (the area before the hemick fight comes to mind). This probably could've been fixed with a change to the chair placement, but I like the look of the laterns in the final game compared to the chairs.
I actually found this a bit more interesting than the cut bosses
Admit you‘ve just made up the whole chair-lanterns story cause you’re obsessed with CHAIRS!
I’d love to know why they swapped over to lanterns. I think the lanterns work well and sitting in a fancy chair that warps you around us a little awkward but I love it
This is a very insightful comment section 👍
this is way more interesting than enemies
The chair design would fit much better than the lamps.
Bloodborne: The Old Chairs Dlc
oooh chairs!! so you can sleep and dream!!
Can you please take a tour of Alpha Hemwick some time? Would greatly appreciate it.
Unfortunately I don't have any alpha files for Hemwick :(
That awkward moment when you find this kind of content more interesting than cut bosses or enemies........
For me this is more interesting, since it shows an earlier and very different concept for the teleportation system that is a huge part of the game. It gets the cogs turning in my brain more than seeing cut enemies, makes me wonder about the ways they would have been implemented or how it would have related to the game's lore.
Good video
The warp chairs were a lil to weird even for Bloodborne =p
Hey man is there any way you can find Guidance Rune lvl3 and Revered Great One Coldblood? (If they even exist)
In dark souls bonfire means something(about story) but in bloodborne lanterns dont. Maybe i am mistaking. If am not pls explain.
How can i play this version? PS4 Jailbreak or something like that?
First thing i thought is micolash
So, for the Chairs, was the idea sort of to reinforce the dream aspect of Bloodborne by having you literally fall asleep to go anywhere? Seems like the case and, thinking about, I'm not sure if I prefer the Lanterns or the Chairs.
Mabye they were just place holders?
What if those chairs are a Yume Nikki reference? *Plays* *X*-*Files* *Theme*
So, if they had decided on these chairs instead of the lanterns, does that mean that the Winter Lantern enemy would've been called Winter Chair? :P
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Alexa search on google "Bloodborne Chairs."
Amazing.
Warp chairs are way cooler. Wish they stuck with them
Great job on another thoroughly interesting video, but where is everyone getting this idea that chairs have lore significance? I've seen plenty of people citing Micolash's physical body sitting in a chair. But I mean, it's just practical, would you want to be endlessly dreaming while standing up?
I think people are ascribing a little too much importance on a common piece of furniture. Micolash doesn't enter the dream by using a special chair, he just dreams.
"I'm waking up! I'll forget everything!"
He's referring to how he's in the physical world, sleeping. If he was "Teleported" to the nightmare realm by a chair, he wouldn't forget everything when he wakes up. Y'know, like how a lot of people (myself included) don't remember their dreams when they wake up?
Also, if he was teleported to the nightmare realm by a chair why would his physical body still be sitting in it?
As for the chairs in the place of lanterns. It might have just been a placeholder. I imagine that FromSoft would have carried some animation data across from previous games so they could have a solid baseline to build from (since most if not all Soulsborne games are functionally similar) and a sitting down animation most likely would have been among them.
I think there's more validity to the statue warping instead since they have more of a visual distinction and cohesiveness with the Hunter's Dream aesthetic.
And they were also shown in early build trailers.
In a way though, the chairs really are interesting, because while I don't personally believe they carry any lore significance, they give us a nice window into the development strategies of FromSoft. And in a sense, a different kind of history to look at for a fascinating game like Bloodborne.
Lanterns are far better, glad they dropped this
It would have been interesting if they had kept the chairs as the entrance to the nightmare frontier areas.