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Can we please stop using companies selling language calling something that's $1 dollar less than $500 under &500. Under by a dollar is essentially the same as $500 and in reality once the inevitable taxes are added such a product will be a good bit more than $500.

I just found out that a $2400 M2 Macbook air with 2 TB and 24 gB of memory has bad memory and it's only been 2 years. They say we have to pay $540 to get it fixed. I will NOT buy Apple again. If I bought a Ferrari and it had a cracked block, they would replace it. I am livid.

Can you save all your music to an external drive so when this take a crap its not gone forever? When you save your projects on an external drive will they reopen back into another computer with the same DAW? The RAM and CPU are soldered in on these so it cant be upgraded so thats why I am asking.

I mean, it's great, but there's nothing stopping you from making pretty much any music on an M1

Adobe’s horrible subscription model. Yes. Anyone disagree?

If someone is doing work that can fit into 16gb of unified ram, then the speed of the CPU/GPU is irrelevant because you are already severely limited in capacity. Apple doesn't do anything magic with "efficient" ram. It's insane how little ram this is in 2024.

Thank you thank you thank you

What will change music forever will be AI and copyright

Spot on!

I won’t buy any personal computer that prevents me from easily upgrading the drives or RAM.

The deal is great, but Ableton f.e. does not utilize efficiency cores, which are 6 out of 10 of the normal M4 chips, so you can only use 4 cores out of those 10, which is a bummer.

The computing/recording capability in the small and cost effective package is game changing for recording, but in the current environment it is still incredibly difficult to make a significant amount of income with those recordings.

2:52 … or, you are Jacob Collier.

But you need to buy a monitor to match it?

So it „changes music forever“ because it is more affordable than other computers who have existed before and could do the same? Wow. If that is not clickbait, what is? Also, constantly talking about it costing 599 is ridiculous. It’s the price of the base model which no one will get because you can‘t do anything with 256gb, let alone music production.

OK... I gotta say that my M1 really gave me a lot of trouble, but then again, it's still working, and it was hacked by a IT pro who I thought was a friend of mine, on my birthday no less (!!!) - the only person besides me to ever touch it. I thought it was ok, but I erased it in the wrong order, and even after I found a way to recover it, force is to admit that the damages are there. My libraries are all fcked, etc - but it does still work with 32gb left on the drive... which when you think about it, is absolutely phenomenal. I'm still running a 8 track concert in Logic as we speak on it and I see no reason to keep it as a backup. It cost 1400 CAD open box. 600 bucks for this is really amazing

It was a breakthrough at M2 pro.

The computer is great. The OS is great. Logic is great, and you can of course use any other modern DAW if you prefer that. What's not great is Apple's history of using cutting edge connectivity, then ditching it a few years later. I have two old Firewire audio interfaces, and a Thunderbolt 1 interface that were obsoleted over the years as Apple stopped supporting that tech - though they function and sound as great as they did when they were new. The Thunderbolt one still works on my 2013 MBP (that has 16Gb RAM BTW; 16Gb for music in 2024 seems pretty bare bones), but that computer has long been unsupported and some programs already don't run on it anymore, so it's days are numbered - and therefore so is that $$$ TB interface (if I stay with Apple HW). Apple's master plan, if you ask me, is planned obsolescence. Not just of their hardware, but of peripherals too. I bought a $23 Firewire PCIe card and put it in my Linux box with 64 Gb of (very inexpensive) RAM and connected one of my old FW interfaces. Even if I end up having to buy a new USB audio interface (like the $190 Behringer), I expect it will work for years since it has no proprietary drivers which require constant updates and support from the manufacturer as Apple tweaks their OS. It's a shame really. Apple really could democratize music production if they would just stick with a protocol. They could still have the latest blingy ports, and switch them generation to maintain the brand or whatever, but keep one for the little people. The rest of the world does just fine with USB, for example. I have 15 year old USB peripherals I can plug into any modern machine with standard USB ports and they just work. When it was USB 1.0 vs Firewire, there was a legitimate bandwidth argument for the "esoteric" Firewire protocol for music. Nowadays, USB4 or whatever we're on is more than enough for music. I want to love this Mac Mini, buy a USB audio interface, and believe I'd be able to use that setup for the next 10 years. If it does all I want and more today, why must I accept that it won't do the same thing in 10 years? Maybe it would. Maybe things have truly changed and this is a new era for Apple and computer music production. I'll believe it when I see it. In the meantime, I'ma keep using Bitwig on Debian 12 with my 20 year old FW audio interfaces that still sound great.

probably a dumb question but can I use my 8 year old iMac as a monitor for this mac mini?

16gb is not enough RAM at all for any kind of decent size project. 32 gb minimum and a much bigger SSD, which really drives the price up.

What no one is saying is why this is so cheap. THEY WANT APPLE INTELLIGENCE ALL UP IN YOUR BIZNASS.

Apple raped the music industry with greed - you can have all the apple crap you want

FMAC!

130 tracks of what? Means nothing without context. Try adding some granular synths, resynthesis ,tape sims, amp sims and see how that number holds up lol Get an M4 Pro base if you’re even half way serious about music production imo

RAM = random access memory = all storage is equally accessible, this is important cause information stored on hard drives have to be scheduled when being accessed, so that the drive can maximize throughput, but though the data transfers quickly, the access delay for read and write plus the time it takes to fetch the storage, takes forever.. You should never put a swap partition or working folder, such as for recording to on an external drive regardless of the implementation, bandwidth or read/write delays, it won't matter cause the distance information needs to travel from drives, is like a difference of seconds to weeks for the computer's needs. Its like the difference of having a local talent versus having to put out an ad for a new musician and auditioning, tgats thescale of difference how close storage is to the processor . Also the unified memory is shared memory, that means the devices in the chip will communicate asynchronously via the unified memory.. If the CPU had-its own memory, and the GPU.. You couldn't easily perform image processing operations on images in realtime to the screen via the GPU.. The fairlight sampler had 8k ram for each voice, and each voice was a circuit board, but for this reason, all the voices couldn't share the memory, so the ram couldn't be combined and used by all the voices..

<- has cs degree.. You should have your working set of data and executables in the 256GB.. So your applications, swap partition, operating system, recording tracks. If the SSD was like a hard drive, you'd need a partition of contiguous (0 fragmentation) storage, but I suppose SSD is fast enough that is no longer a concern . Sound libraries needn't be on the main drive. Sound files are so small and so they shouldn't take long to transfer, also you shouldn't be wasting time loading transient files like sound libraries into the computer's drive. Especially while working, you can taje the sound libraries and put them on a server and make it accessible to multiple devices, you will want to save your working tracks to an external drive, if you plan to use packages on other machines. The drive inside your computer should be used for time dependent stuff.. For instance, unless you are playing a multiplayer game, you don't need to load your video games locally.. You could even put your sound libraries onto the a cloud server..

you dont want to put the 512GB solid state drive inside the computer, if you are storing data.. the executables and recording tracks, vm need to be inside the device..

It also has realtime raytracing and 10 terraflops

I spent $1100 to get Arturias V collection , including the synclavier V.. and 37 other vintage soft synths for $300.. Black Friday sale 2024.. I lucked out.. also got crossgrades to pigments and FX 5, each $50..

I use UDIO

You look like Jack Antonoff

Great deal! No talent needed

Twenty years ago I was selling ProTools systems that required an entire rack. When a rep came into the office with a mac labtop with the beta version of Final Cut that ran flawlessly I cancelled all the Avid system orders.

Unified memory is RAM, it is just the same memory shared by CPU and GPU

Sir I disagree that this is the only gear you need to mix a record. However this computer is pretty fire

Awesome vid, Got a Mac mini in 2012 to produce PREXENTS; upgraded memory 2 years ago. Got logic on a 2012 MacBook with free plugs that are better than waves ai bs plugs I tested on new macs. Love Macminis! but waves & ai plugs is wasting energy compared to my no ai setup at least for now, producing PREXENTS is a different story. Cheers

I’m curious what you guys do for backing up files in case of an internal or external drive failure. Many suggest not paying for internal storage and using external. That’s fine, but then are you backing up what’s stored on an external drive.. onto another external drive? Isn’t that super tedious? Do you plug both drives into the Mac at the same time and manually make 2 copies of everything? Or do most pay for cloud storage and use that as a backup to the external drive? Internal and external drives do fail.. so again, how are y’all backing up years worth of files?

Imagine with the Vision Pro for producing while playing 🤯

719 Euros! A ripoff compared to US price.

audio is weird

How many SSD can I install internally for all my audio projects?

Dude Im on an M1 Air, running Logic, Maschine, Kontrol, Amp sims, Ozone plugins, tons of midi VSTs, in studio and live, and yes we do everything in the box, in a duo, we us a LOT of power, in low latency mode, we have not had one glitch not one.. I want one of these, but… Other than the AI tools and updates, I really am not needing a faster CPU yet, this M1 Air is still more than enough. I will wait for a good price on a refurb down the road.

As a certified Mac hater lemme say that despite the bare minimum specs in many aspects for 2024, and the connectivity options being halfway sufficient... for the price indicated and that configuration you basically can't go wrong. This seems like an outstanding deal and more than capable of taking everything a budding producer can throw at it.

I just ordered the m4 pro Mack book pro in space black nano texture screen with the upgraded CPU/GPU. 24gb 512. Waiting for it to arrive.

There is a gerbil on your neck.

well done mate and thanks. I really honest insight.

Right now I have a tricked out 6,1 2tb nvme and 64gb ram running sequoia and a 5,1 128gb ram running sequoia as well. The 5,1 I use for mixing and the 6,1 I use for Mastering: everything works great but do you think the Mac mini would work great for mastering. I uses studio 7 and it has a 2 track mastering program that lets me stack songs in order with any VST I might want to use only 2 tracks

As someone who dropped $1000 on a 10Mb RAM upgrade for an Ensoniq ASR-10 and $500 per Syquest 270Mb cartridge for instruments, I find 2024 quite a magical time to be alive.

Ableton, logic and fl studio dont currently take advantage of all performance cores, hopefully they will be updated to do so in the near future though, Cubase and reaper are the only ones that does right now.

As a relatively new Mac user, can someone tell me how, or if, Unified Memory differs from RAM?