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after wasting my time playing the map a bit i was very pleased to hear your roasts

Hey, Big thanks man! i was stuck on this for days, abandoned it twice, but your tutorial really helped! Even if it was a pain thanks to being on mobile...

I hope you realize that the campaign is where most new players are going to flock to, so obviously it's going to be slower paced. Just because you've become accustomed to the fast-paced gameplay of Eviction doesn't make the first few sectors bad, you're just way past the point of needing it. Newer players who have no idea what they're doing might appreciate being eased into the mechanics (especially on Erekir) instead of being dropped into the game without help. Also, Breach is totally overpowered against the Erekir AI for T1s and T2s, you just need to learn how to use them for it. It may be bad in PvP but that doesn't make it a bad turret overall, just for your standards maybe. A few watercooled tungsten breaches can easily demolish decently-sized groups of T1s and T2s, so long as you have it completely walled off. No low-tier unit can outrange it so its the perfect turret for early game, at least before you get access to sublimates and diffuses.

i feel sleep of your voice because of low energy i don't even know what are you talking about

Thanks

I just did the math, turret strength is based on resources. Meaning the higher the beryllium extraction rate, the more water you feed it, the faster it can shoot. In a defensively ideal scenario, a turret is fully walled off and is fed 15 water per second and provided 7.8 beryllium per second. In this case, such a turret can take on 8 or more stells in a fight. 2 or 3 of these can fully stop an entire wave of 15 stells+ 15 eludes but requires 45 water per second and 22.4 beryllium per second which is insane. With 3 turbine condenser you can mix water from 2 of these to feed an electrolyser and provide 5 water per second to the turret for a roughly 50% speed boost, this means it requires about 4.5 beryllium per second. 4.5 beryllium per second can be achieve with 3 beryllium drills drilling from the wall. This is not taking into account the power efficiency since you are likely using more power than you can provide. A fully loaded fully waterer beryllium breach walled off with beryllium walls and having the entrance to the base walled off with power fully provided can take on a swarm of 9 stells at once. Or 15 waves of 2 stells or 7 waves of 3 stells. However in a real game you would have much less water and beryllium and you would be running at less than 100% power efficiency and you usually barely take on 2 or 3 stells in a fight. This is assuming the turret and entrance are completely walled off. I would conclude that the turret vs unit at the start if the game argument would fall down to the richness of the locale. The richer the area the stronger the turrets compared to units. Although there is also a time factor where overtime your army gets stronger but since your resources are the same your turrets dont get stronger over time. Make a map with say 5 starting turbine condenser nodes and 16 wall beryllium tiles and see how tough a turret will become.

You can also mix and match turrets to make them more potent. For example placing a diffuse near the base entrance and a breach next to it will make it hard to run inside and will deal some decent dmg. But unfortunately you are right, right now an elude rush seems inevitable. Your best bet likely is to split tanks to cover more ground defensively or to place turrets inside and near vital structures. In the example where you showed you are runnig circle around the enemy, when you were in the top left corner at the end, the enemy could have split his tanks into 2 and stopped you from running away untouched. But you did do a ton of dmg already so i see your point.

When comparing the cost of towers and units, have you also considered the time factor? For example, units cost more than just what it takes to make thrm, because they need time to make. In that time, the enemy is acquiring resources and can use those to build more towers. Have you also considered the power cost? I think just comparing the units themselves and the turrets themselves is not the whole equation. And while adding these factors will not change the 1 to 1 interaction. It will affect things like when you added units as a means to compare the costs. Perhaps you shpuld consider less units vs 1 turrets which then will affect the outcome. You also have to consider the power equivalent of things. For example how much power its costing to create 1 unit vs 1 tower. I think the best way to consider unit and tower cost is through power. For example, tanks cost some amount of beryllium per minute to produce. Lets say they cost 80, i dont remember exactly. 80/min is about 1.15 roughly per minute so about 2 drills so roughly 18 power units. Now consider the power cost of silicon. And multiply that by time to produce. Because time is a factor, the more time you spend creating a unit the more the enemy has to create more turrets. Now consider the power cost of turrets, and also consider the time it takes to create a turret, meaning the time it takes to for example mine 150 graphite. It doesnt matter how much drills you have and yes it will affect the time needed but it will not affect the (time x power) equation since its using more power. Grab the time x power equation of producing 1 unit and producing 1 turret and then reapply the test you did. Im sure offense will still win as i believe it should but likely things will seem much less overpowered or useless. The reason i am bringing this up is because turrets are dirt cheap compared to units they dont need extra power to produce like units and they take less time to make. Thank you for the video, i believe it brings the correct conclusions into place. But i wpuld apprexiate a more thorough calculationa when mentioning a sort of apple to apple comparison.

Nice car

Awwww he is so sweat

IMO, they are considered cheating if other players don't consent to you using them in the matches.

To be completely honest, I just used scathes and t2 and 3 mechs to very slowly take the sector and then only at the end did i make a t4.

Almost a year later and I'm coming back to this to refine my Evict build order. Thanks for the valuable info Mr. Feticus 😁❤️

Units, doing mitosis upon death is funny, like "Hi, there is my lil' brother!"

More cat vids

Please do more cat vids

More cat videos plz

more cat vids pls

Laro i know this vídeo its a 1 year ago but why you no try use t4 air?

would yo be able to provide the map?, plllssss

At 6:09 I thought the breach bullets were being reflected by the wall😅

Like 750 calories right there.

Seeing you be able to take items from the core and put them in other blocks makes me mad

Maze runner in mindustry

i did atlas in 13 mins

You can have a small chem generator and a large power beam to connect it to the base

Where would one get the map

and I was wondering why it sounds so lame... way to waste time! Why in hell you still playing v6?

Any chance we can get that T4 Ship Schematic ?

Just found your channel... Wow!

I think the responsibity for fairness is on the mod author. They should either make it give a warning to all on the server that is being used, or they should somehow make that bonus info available to the opponents as well.

i was barely able to rebuild 90% accurate enemy's fort

Im late but if someone waches this, do i play on eviction? Is sounds stressful, but im up for the challenge.

can you give us a file with all your schematics please ? im struggling to find some good schems

You pointed out what was considered cheating spot on. I'm not too competitive but trying to get everyone to use the exact same tools seems extremely frustrating

you seem like such a genius player but I don't understand how you can be so careless with your expensive units units

36:20 KITTY

This video plays like a scientific journal.

Cool video but it made me sad to not see the final push! There's no way you need those final factories you're building. The final 5 minutes of glory is spent just watching some blocks slowly build, occasionally checking the map. If it was me, I'd be watching the kill in slow motion!

I have a horrible beain where i jsut dont understand how to capture basin

12:45 "America is below me", -Larofeticus, 2023

5:48 "woops"

I think that seeing where someone is going to send their units is 100% cheating. In many rts games this information is absolutely massive, and generally shuts down a lot of potential plays and ideas by allowing people to have nearly perfect micro without any of the game sense or unpredictability of vanilla micro.

4:33 meow

Ozone bombs are genius move!

This is also why attacking enemy monos can be a useful early tactic.

Nice video

bro really censored the blue guy's name 💀

tell me the mods

18:32 dude, what are u doing??? It was awesome! Really good tip! Wanna play duo?