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Are Flywheel Trainers Worth the Cost? Comparing Flywheel Value to Traditional Gym Equipment
In this video, we dive into the world of flywheel trainers and answer the big question: Are they worth the price? We’ll break down what flywheel trainers are, how they work, and whether they can truly replace traditional gym equipment like cable columns and belt squat machines. From portable units like the Kynett Fit and Kratos Quest Portable to high-end systems like the Kratos Quest Station, we’ll compare prices, versatility, and space-saving benefits. If you’re setting up a home gym or upgrading your current equipment, this video will help you decide if a flywheel trainer is the right investment for you.
Please read the full article here: www.thekurtlocker.blog/post/are-flywheel-trainers-overpriced
CHeck out the Kynett system here: www.kynett.com/en-us
Check out the Kratos system here and don't forget to use code "KL7": kratosflyfitness.com/collections/featured
Here is the Bells of Steel Cable Tower I used for comparison: bellsofsteel.us/products/cable-tower?variant=43315683492037&currency=USD&kendall_source=google&kendall_adid=&kendall_campaign=21637452918&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjNS3BhChARIsAOxBM6oAXthENvstW4ybLU5MvzdTdeYRba6xsmznTwXuhzmaGMWtoXXemWEaAizkEALw_wcB/#a_aid=Kurtlocker
And the Straydog Strength Version: straydogstrength.com/product/rack-mounted-cable-column/
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  • @ommaigod
    @ommaigod 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    475 bux LOL. That's an IQ test. No way jose.

  • @TonyNovation
    @TonyNovation 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I requested a bar similar to this in February of 2021 from Black Widow ... just looked up the email. I took their image of their Black Widow Multi-Grip Press Bar, opened it in the MS paint program, rotated the image to make the bar horizontal, and then moved the center bar as far as I could to the top of the bar. I emailed it to them and and asked if they could make it and Justin from The Black Widow Team said, "I wouldn't trust making that bar that way. With the offset and the heat from welding it would pull the handles down a little bit and look pretty sh***. Going to have to pass on that one." I responded back and asked, "I am looking for a bar that I can do overhead presses with that allows space for the head/face without leaning back or craning the neck back? Do you know of anything like that? As far as I know, it doesn't exist." They just said, "The only things we make right now that would help are the hex bar or cambered row bar." I wonder if my request gave them the inspiration... Maybe. Maybe not.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker วันที่ผ่านมา

      It definitely might have. It was an awesome idea for sure

  • @blablah538
    @blablah538 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rogue only has a 3 year warranty. That's not real trust in their durability

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mean…it’s the best warranty I’ve seen for a sandbag.

  • @SteveKelly1
    @SteveKelly1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are incredible for doing this! Thank you!! Im saving this incase I run into people in need later.

  • @gr5394
    @gr5394 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could you theoretically not bolt to the ground the flywheel without the platform and just put several 45 pound plates on top of so it won’t move? That way it remains portable.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That wouldn’t work for this model but there are other models it may work for

  • @02phenom
    @02phenom 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do you do the bench pressing exercises on this?

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can perform a chest press while sitting incline using something like the Darko longy bar to attach a couple handles. If you wish to lay flat, you can do a unilateral chest press using a single handle but this requires you to move the bench to get right and left hand side

  • @MurphGymExperiment
    @MurphGymExperiment 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did you give the footplate a try? I’m on the hunt for something that would help me mimic leg press better. So far I’ve got lever arms with an adjustable pull bar connecting them. Wondering if these footplates could be another piece

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mostly used the footplate for unilateral kickbacks. This COULD work, but I have yet to see something mimic a leg press well.

    • @MurphGymExperiment
      @MurphGymExperiment 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheKurtlocker thanks man. There’s a company called elite pro that makes a footplate you can attach to a smith barbell to create a vertical press. Seems like it’s possible to attach to lever arms plus that connecting bar. Would be more like a cybex squat press than true leg press though

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @MurphGymExperiment I’ll check them out. Thanks for the lead

  • @GymCrafter
    @GymCrafter 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How much does a basketball hoop upright thing add to the price? 😂 Great video. I wish I could try one, maybe there will be a chance at HGC next year!

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hope so as well!

  • @31snipe
    @31snipe 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Any thoughts on wall storage for the Echo GHD when not in use? I'm searching for ideas. Thanks!

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I stored it on a wire rack for a bit of time but ultimately sold this unit

  • @mrsmuuve
    @mrsmuuve 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice lift

  • @chrisdonnell2575
    @chrisdonnell2575 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kurt appreciate your channel and advice. I want a bit more variety in my programs so was considering getting the Crandall lever arms. I'd like hammer strength type exercises for variety for chest and shoulders mostly but might row with it as well. Curious how the flywheels are for chest or shoulders? Which exercises do you do with them the most? Do you ever use them after say a bench chest workout to totally exhaust muscles? Most of us have never used them have no idea how they feel so the harder you pull the harder eccentric feels? The point is to resist that on way down? Is it 1 to 1 ie if I push 125lbs with one arm does it feel like 125lbs on way down or can it be set to more as we're stronger on that portion. I think I might be interested if I could get heavier eccentric lifts like I think Voltra can do.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I really want to get a flywheel booth at Home Gym Con this year to let people experience this amazing modality. I absolutely use it for upper body work including incline chest press, triceps extension, rows, biceps curl, straight arm pulldown, overhead press, delt raises etc. yes, the harder you pull, the faster the inertia wheel spins. When the webbing reaches its maximum length the inertia wheel continues spinning as fast as you pulled it and it then starts to retract the webbing into the machine and you use the eccentric part of the lift to stop the inertia of the flywheel and then begin the process again.

  • @squatrx
    @squatrx 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the InerceX Box (on Amazon) a knock-off copy of these?

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Upon first glance it looks like another option for a platform style vertically loaded flywheel trainer. No idea if they are violating anyone’s patents etc

  • @BrimhallBarbellClub
    @BrimhallBarbellClub 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool idea; wish the price would come down.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wish it would as well but I just think they carry a value. I mean if we are paying $2k for a battery operated single cable resistance machine…is this actually overpriced?

  • @Beast_Mode_Jones
    @Beast_Mode_Jones 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which one produces smoother resistance?

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I find myself always preferring the Kratos so far

  • @bobbypilon3144
    @bobbypilon3144 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the resistance variable more like a band or consistant really like a cable machine? Great review by the way.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Consistent based on the inertia introduced by the lifter. The strength curve remains more the same with flywheel

  • @GarageGymRadio
    @GarageGymRadio 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hopefully they do catch on though and the price does come down.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I would love to see prices come down but I don’t see that happening until people can get a feel for flywheel training as a modality thereby increasing its popularity

  • @chrisdonnell2575
    @chrisdonnell2575 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This looks like a good option I have a Rep rack with dual cable systems so really want to be able to remove it easily. That being said really like the Crandall lever arms do you feel the shorter arm impacts bench and shoulder presses? Does it affect the strength curve much or feel weird? Would hate to buy these and hate them for two main exercises I want.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I personally don’t like the shorter arms for upper body movements because of the inability of a straight up and down motion.

    • @chrisdonnell2575
      @chrisdonnell2575 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheKurtlocker I was watching so many videos of people using the goat for shoulder press and bench and I agree and in talking to them today they even admitted its designed for leg curl/extension and while people who buy it for pressing have to use a LOT more weight. Probably 40 percent more. It's like Hammer Strength stuff I had 480lbs on it for their incline bench and bench less than 2/3 of that. I don't want to have to spend 500+ more on 45s just to make it feel normal. I thought about getting Powertech multipress for a hammer strength like workout but can't get without the seat which most reviewers admit is cheap. If somebody made one like that where you use your own seat and its high quality would be soo nice. I tried rowing with Rogue Reverse Hyper Westside portable one and it felt good kind of like henny barbell setup for rows. Different than cables and dumbbells. I might buy a cheap Amazon lever arm just to see if I even like it. I wish I had room for a Hammer Strength shoulder machine or older Nautilus equipment that stuff was amazing. Thanks for your response 100 percent agree with you. Kaizen is coming out with lever arms in 8 months he told me might wait for him and GymPin's collab.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s a really good idea. With the price of lever arms I can’t fault someone from wanting to DIY or test it out on a more affordable unit first.

  • @chrisdonnell2575
    @chrisdonnell2575 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It appears the Crandall arms are a better deal locks lever arms in place, can go side to side etc.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed that Crandall arms look like a better item as far as value and capability

  • @airgordo4
    @airgordo4 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I get what you’re saying, for what they can “replace” or “mimic” the price isn’t horrible in comparison.. but, they are still astronomically overpriced for the actual components you receive. I have to assume the margins on flywheel units are the largest in all of the fitness industry. There just isn’t enough to the actual components to justify the price no matter how functional or beneficial.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Completely understand that point of view but I just can’t agree given the context of the product.

  • @sobutterysmooth
    @sobutterysmooth 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I invested into the Handygym first. It was about $800, but the training I got with it humbled me. Now I have the Exxentric systems, and I really love it (it really is the real deal). About $3500, but I honestly don’t regret it. It’s a small foot space, really versatile, and it provides a much different resistance profile than just training with weights and resistance bands or isometric trainers. It has provided me carryover for my lifts. Is it necessary? No, but it is extremely effective.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ve used the Exxentric system in physical therapy and would LOVE to have some in my gym collection.

  • @DerickCross34
    @DerickCross34 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For the algorithm 🫡 great vid. I’m a little fly wheel curious now

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We need to get a flywheel booth at home gym con

  • @duvertjeremy4690
    @duvertjeremy4690 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seems really interesting as portable/rack attached devices but how to manage and track progressive overload on this type of device ? And what about durability ?

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      With the Kratos I’m not worried about durability. The Kynett is newer to my space but so far it’s solid enough

  • @andie_pl
    @andie_pl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    these flywheels always remind me of equipment that's made more for rehabbing injuries and PT

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s how I was originally introduced to it but there is a lot you can do for other training as well. Especially athleticism as well as hypertrophy

  • @DesignBuildLift
    @DesignBuildLift 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very informative!

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you. I really was trying to be more concise but missed the mark a little bit.

    • @DesignBuildLift
      @DesignBuildLift 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheKurtlocker you did great!

  • @scooobyj8714
    @scooobyj8714 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really would love to get my hands on a fly wheel system. I think the constant load and time under tension effect is next level. I just can’t justify the $$$ right now. Free weights are the king in my home gym (the rust used ones haha)

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can’t fault you there!

  • @carlosshaw6648
    @carlosshaw6648 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the video. So what exactly is the point of the keyhole shape, if you can use some 5/8 inch attachments? Why go through the trouble of doing the keyhole? (which you would think it’s more complicated rather than just a regular circle).

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Rogue is the only brand I’m aware of that does keyhole and it is to keep certain attachments oriented in a specific position

  • @LosFerrer
    @LosFerrer 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    … what about progressive overload? It is quite not comparable to weight stacks…

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’d argue that it is. You can step up the resistance with heavier disks and can measure velocity on some units. You’re still overloading, just measuring it in a different way

  • @JanieHenderon
    @JanieHenderon 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would you recommend/review leg attachment?! Thank you

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I found it to be stable enough but rarely used it

  • @BasementBrandon
    @BasementBrandon 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Before I even watch I'm saying way over priced.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Curious on your thoughts post-watching my talking head

    • @squatrx
      @squatrx 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      SAME

  • @xxJ0xx
    @xxJ0xx 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How much is it?

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Strexbox website is linked. I recommend checking it out for most current pricing

  • @gainmachines
    @gainmachines 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Single column trainers provide a very different type of resistance. You yourself have both a stack AND a flywheel system, so what are we missing when choosing one over the other?

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I actually find myself using the single stack less and less and preferring the flywheel.

  • @619.DRIVER
    @619.DRIVER 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wonder if I can turn an older Concept2 machines into one? Been seeing lots of well used rowers for sale on the super low on offer up and Craigslist. Be a fun project.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The potential for DIYs are out there

  • @carps_gym
    @carps_gym 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Big Kurt

    • @carps_gym
      @carps_gym 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@619.DRIVER I’m not sure I know what that is….????

    • @carps_gym
      @carps_gym 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@619.DRIVER we’ll see. Nothing crazy at this point just rains. But my route ain’t gonna run it self so somebody’s gotta work.

  • @JuanChavarria-hq5mj
    @JuanChavarria-hq5mj 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I cant find your arfilate on the website for this.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don’t have one but thank you for liking for it.

  • @ernestjaramillo3
    @ernestjaramillo3 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, would you mind telling me where you got the triple bar cable attachment (9:28)? Thank you.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is an old Havak product. No longer sold at this time (26Sep2024)

  • @michaelderenne9838
    @michaelderenne9838 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just bought 2 sets for $160 total on marketplace

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A score for the books!

  • @TheGhu123
    @TheGhu123 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do you do viking press with the UDA? I was going to jsut buy the handles for dips with spotter arm but if there are addtiional uses for the UDA base it might be better to get the entire unit. thanks

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I rigged it up once with lever arms and a safety arm. Would not recommend

  • @Thepokechoprx
    @Thepokechoprx 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Liking the weight selections so far. Not impossible but heavy!

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That was the idea! You gonna enter?

    • @Thepokechoprx
      @Thepokechoprx 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheKurtlocker tempted. I’m currently an out of shape u200. Definitely don’t need to get bigger right now and not strong enough for the 220 weights. But I’ve got 9 months to see if I can motivate myself to lose a little weight and get stronger

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Thepokechoprx sign up for novice below 220! It’ll be perfect!

  • @Hogan_Gagle
    @Hogan_Gagle 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great update! We will have to work on how you pronounce Louisville

  • @GarageGymRadio
    @GarageGymRadio 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hell yes

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exciting stuff for sure

  • @619.DRIVER
    @619.DRIVER 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wish I lived near by…or even had vacation time saved…I would have volunteered for sure! 😎‼️

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would have been awesome to have ya on board

  • @scooobyj8714
    @scooobyj8714 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congrats on the new sponsors. Sounds like the event is growing and growing. Congrats man!

  • @carps_gym
    @carps_gym 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What are you thinking three events on day one and two events on day two or vice versa?

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably 2 on Friday and 3 on Saturday. Later start on Friday

  • @fitseano
    @fitseano 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are doing amazing work, this event should be epic.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Looking forward to it!

  • @andie_pl
    @andie_pl 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Going to be a good battle for sure

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Epic is the goal!

  • @carps_gym
    @carps_gym 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yep!

  • @josephperry706
    @josephperry706 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a legend. I did not expect to be able to easily find this information. Thanks!

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Happy you found this video useful

  • @hicklinc
    @hicklinc 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    vhs vs viking press landmine attachment does it do pretty much the same thing

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sort of but not really. The landmine setup is more specific to the actual Viking press where the VHS allows for an overhead press with neutral grips and no need to move your head around the bar

  • @HGM-FR
    @HGM-FR 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Isn't the fact that the bar is flexible a problem? Wouldn't it be better with a fat bar or Swiss bar for their rigid side?

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s better with an axle

  • @alexw.8999
    @alexw.8999 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Black Widow makes some manly ass gear. I have their ez curl bar. It’s awesome.

    • @TheKurtlocker
      @TheKurtlocker 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have never had anything from BWTG I don’t like