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Have you seen the film "Yesterday"? That kind of situation, more like 1765 though for this type of lute.

The church started it all by stopping women singing in church

It's not too bad, just a little snip. Cats hardly notice when they are done

The lute is really a different instrument to the guitar, especially the baroque lute, so it's not that useful to compare them. The baroque lute always has double strings, with octaves in the basses which are important. If you want an instrument like a guitar then you would be better with a 13 string guitar, although obviously the sound is quite different. The tuning, stringing and playing technique of the baroque lute is nothing like the classical guitar at all.

@Quatrapuntal ok, tk you so much

There were a few things on this video that I forgot to mention in hindsight, including aspects of the development from other types of cittern and the Coimbra version. Coimbra fado is very different and the Lisbon style resonates much more with me to be honest. It seems many professional players prefer a Coimbra guitar but with Lisbon tuning, not sure why maybe the scale length is slightly longer giving a different tone. This video is much better as a performance and more expressive: th-cam.com/video/sSRy6orRI98/w-d-xo.html

Pure coincidence then as I didn't listen to any other versions to create this other than the original song. The low D string does come in very useful in this, and in most things I really miss it on guitars.

Is that a good or bad thing?

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the subscription, there are a few other videos on the channel with the theorbo as well

These German lutes are really a separate instrument, not like earlier lutes and not like a guitar either. There is a lot of snobbery from lutenists about them, but some are very well made and nice instruments if looked after. The sound can't be compared to a lute from the old tradition up to around 1830 though, they were much more thinly constructed and resonant which is a key part of the lute sound. If you see my video about the history of the lute there is a comparison with a lightly made mandora and a heavily constructed German 20th century lute. The German lutes started to emerge in larger numbers in the 1880s, it is my theory that they evolved directly from the earlier mandora but it is difficult to prove that. They were very popular from about 1910 to 1930, they unfortunately became associated with the rise in Nationalism and ultimately Nazis, so after the war very few were produced. They are certainly not the "correct" instrument for renaissance or baroque music and the sound is quite different, but if you want to play that music on it then why not?

@Quatrapuntal tk you very much, it's very kind of you!

De nada!

They always knew, but preferred the castrati despite the moral issues

Somebody else mentioned this music, I listened to it and I think that it's a female voice singing without words in the original. My nail violin skills are pretty limited, lots of jumps are difficult as are many chromatic notes but maybe it would work.

I would say this and the fugue before it are the most difficult pieces for baroque lute, which is why they are rarely played on the correct instrument (as opposed to archlute etc.). I presume that as a beginner you have a renaissance lute? The technique is pretty different, especially the right hand.

@ I see… I’ve been playing guitar for 6 years now so I had the basics of the lute without even having touched one before. And then I’m an undisputed fan of baroque music so I couldn’t imagine playing the renaissance lute! I only swear by Mouton, De Visée and Weiss

This was taken from the original 80s arcade game, but it was probably the same on consoles.

@Quatrapuntal yes absolutely 💯

I think I was breathing otherwise I would be dead, I can't hold my breath for 3 and a half minutes...

Hejsan! I have been recording things for a CD, including all the rest of the movements that this allegro comes from, but have had problems getting other parts recorded. It will be released at some point. In the meantime there are plenty of things on this channel, you can always play a playlist so that it runs several videos in a row, like this one: th-cam.com/video/qVk8VS-Ad2c/w-d-xo.html

Thanks, there is a playlist of some other songs as well here: th-cam.com/video/moHvD38PFeY/w-d-xo.html

This is a 19th century mandora, so by that point they started to have fixed frets. I actually regret that now as I can't tweak the intonation like with tied frets, but too late now.

No, chitarrone is just an early 17th century name for the Italian theorbo, exactly the same. This is a much rarer and later German theorbo - all the info is 8n the video description

@@Quatrapuntal well my mistake I was taught that the theorbo has single strings, tuned in A and has re-entrant 1st and second strings.

@@adampasztor6187 that is only because most modern players use those for convenience. Many historical Italian theorbos were double strung, people use single strings today because they are easier to play and a bit louder. Different tunings existed as well, there was a lot more variety than you see today. But chitarrone is just an alternative name, not a different instrument.

@@Quatrapuntal thank you for educating and clarifying. :)

I don't really know what you mean, but Moreschi is problematic as a reference. The poor quality of the recording equipment changes the tone considerably, and he had a technique very particular to his time, quite different to the great 18th castrati. It is a fascinating glimpse, but probably a long way from the sound of Farinelli.

I don't know that one, my nail violin skills are pretty minimal so it would have to be very simple!

@@Quatrapuntal it’s so simple you’ll laugh! The composer Koji Kondo had to keep it as simple as possible due to storage restrictions in old video game consoles, give it a listen!

Yes it is, although because I am playing 7 different parts they were recorded first before the video, otherwise the sound would have been muffled

I've never played it on the guitar but I can confirm it is a beast on the baroque lute, as is the Allegro (also on this channel). It is very rarely played live in concerts on the lute by anyone because it is so difficult. I very rarely do solo concerts and not sure I would dare!

My main instrument is the lute so although the P. guitar has a difficult and very unique technique, compared to the baroque lute it's not so bad! The video was done a while ago so the sound is not great, this one is better th-cam.com/video/sSRy6orRI98/w-d-xo.html

With all gut strings the tuning is a lot more problematic, I use nylgut (synthetic gut) which is quite stable once stretched. See here to hear it properly th-cam.com/video/qVk8VS-Ad2c/w-d-xo.html

No, it's an early 19th century style mandora, a type of lute that's nothing to do with guitars even though there are coincidental similarities. There is more info about it here: th-cam.com/video/HzexBS6-IUM/w-d-xo.html

@@Quatrapuntal oh yeah I've seen a few in the "Laute in Europa" book and in some luthier websites like Marco Salerno's website, I hadn't seen 8 string mandoras but I did see up to 6 strings. I'll try to research more on the mandora, I'm very curious about it. You always seem to have the most interesting instruments even for the already rare topic that is early music. I'm fascinated by all of it.

@@The_IRL_Bard years ago there weren't that many lutenists, and no Internet of course. These days anyone can put anything online and there are a lot more players, so it's a lot more saturated. I have tried to find my own niches of areas that are little covered by others, also the more rare and unusual things have always interested me more. I have been researching and playing post-baroque music for a long time, the video I linked is the last surviving piece from 1818.

Thanks, you can see the full video this is taken from here: th-cam.com/video/F3hCWTPozl0/w-d-xo.html

If the person has a "normal" male broken speaking voice they are a countertenor and singing in falsetto. Arno Raunig speaks with a broken voice so he is a high countertenor/sopranist. The singer on this recording had an unbroken adult voice so spoke like a child, which is the closest modern equivalent to a castrato. Look up Samuel Marino, he also has an unbroken voice it is extremely rare.

@@Quatrapuntal Ich möchte mich sehr herzlich für den Hinweis zu Samuel Marino bedanken. Marino hat auch ein ausgeprägtes schauspielerisches Talent, was nicht jedem Sänger eigen ist. Was halten Sie von Radu Marian als Sänger. In welche Kathegorie würden Sie ihn einordnen? Er ist für mich ein aussergewöhnlicher Sänger, leider mit einer schwachen Bühnenpräsenz , was er natürlich nicht zu verantworten hat. Alles Gute für Sie.

Sim, é algo muito especial ouvir fado tocado ao vivo, com toda a atmosfera e emoção. Lisboa é o melhor lugar para ouvir fado. Visitei o Brasil há 25 anos, um país lindo.

It was built by Klaus Jacobsen who lives in London, the basses are plaited nylon which was an experiment Klaus did but they are great, 25 years later they sound the same and rarely go out of tune. The stopped length is 80cm, can't remember exactly for the basses but something like 150cm. See also the info on this video: th-cam.com/video/qVk8VS-Ad2c/w-d-xo.html

@@Quatrapuntal That's quite a coincidence....When I lived in London, I used to share a workshop space with Klaus, in Stoke Newington. A very tall Danish chap. I play Lute professionally, hence the technical questions. Are you self-taught? You have a very fluent, neat, and confident technique, particularly in the right hand. Who made the metal-fretted Mandora? It sounds very warm and attractive. With all good wishes, Edward Fitzgibbon.

Klaus is still in Stoke Newington I believe, he makes very fine instruments although he has only done one other German theorbo I believe. I was at Birmingham Conservatoire firstly, then the Guildhall, mainly taught by Bill Carter but also has a few lessons with Nigel North when he lived in London. I play professionally as well, but have been out of the London scene for years now and do less concerts these days.

Yes - you can hear the whole finished version here: th-cam.com/video/hSOVbybxNNs/w-d-xo.html

No, I did the arrangement myself

@@Quatrapuntal Would you be willing to share it?

I don't know where the tab is, I played it from memory, and anyway you would have to have the same instrument as me with the same tuning

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks, there is a better performance video here: th-cam.com/video/sSRy6orRI98/w-d-xo.html

Thanks glad you enjoyed it. My latest video is the lute in an entirely different direction th-cam.com/video/XsCe9Do_ac4/w-d-xo.html