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@@ChrisJohnsonChannel in"sight" - very good!! 🤣

Wigan abc demolished and Leigh casino so not good for Beatles nostalgia.

He could still see the shapes of the actions, just wouldn't be able to focus fully. He copied what he was seeing a few hundred people do, which even with his eyesight was possible.

Um he was wearing glass contacts I believe and he hated them

@ChrisJohnsonChannel very true Chris

But then, yea they probably at some point fell out , and couldn’t see

A session drummer only sat in on 11th September 1962. That was all.

@@BrightmoonLiverpool well according to session drummer Bernard Purdie he sat in on 21 Beatle recordings

@juanbbien Purdie lied and eventually, when he published his autobiography, he had to change what he had said originally. All he did was to add some drums to the Tony Sheridan Hamburg recordings, because Bert Kaempfert only liked snare and cymbals on his recordings. So he actually just beefed up what Pete Best had recorded.

@@BrightmoonLiverpool fair enough, best regards.

That is because William is not Paul McCartney. Because he hints all the time that he is not Paul McCartney.

Yes, I'm a historian, so that is what I do. Haven't seen any ducks though 🤔

A good description. It was their boot camp. They arrived knowing very little and left knowing everything they need to succeed.

My pleasure Steve, thank you. The guys did think he was a really good drummer, otherwise they wouldn't have kept him for 2 years. The arrangement wouldn't have been his suggestion anyway, that was always down to the others, especially Paul. They would tell Ringo what to drum too.

It really is!

No apology needed! You are absolutely right that they changed the face of popular music and we are still seeing the benefits today. It is about cultural and social history as much as musical history.

It would be mainly covers, which was typical then, plus they had no opportunity really to practice with Ringo.

Thank you Lester, glad you enjoyed it. David

It made integrating him easier, though of course they were playing the covers that most groups did then too. He soon settled in nicely, but it was still a gamble.

It all changed, and was almost a new group to the old Beatles from the previous two years.

Never seen any colour photos from Hulme Hall, just black and white ones of Gerry and the Pacemakers, so cannot say for sure.

@@BrightmoonLiverpool Thanks David. I’ve seen those black and white shots of Gerry and also The Beatles at Hulme Hall. I think the only colour photos would be at some function/ wedding at the venue in the 1960s. By chance someone might have taken a shot of the group or dance band playing that day on the stage. By the way, a Port Sunlight local told me years ago that she saw The Stones playing at The Girls Club, over the road from the fountain in the village. This would have been around 1963/64 when they were relatively unknown. I’ve not come across any evidence of this. I know they performed at The Cavern and in Birkenhead and New Brighton during this era. You will probably know that Lennon had relatives down the road from Port Sunlight in Rock Ferry that he often used to visit. Believe it or not, John and Yoko were spotted in the village looking for directions for Hulme Hall. This was during that 1969 period when he took Yoko to see Wales and then ended up in a car crash in Scotland.

Thank you Howard

Looks like it, but these were being built post WWll, and still being erected when they moved in during the 40s and 1950 for the Harrisons.

Great isn't it?

They really look after the place Vinny, they are great. David

@@BrightmoonLiverpool That's good to hear mate 👌

It is out of the way on the Wirral in Port Sunlight. Well worth a visit.

Hutch sat in on the Wednesday night in Chester (after which he was offered the job of replacing Pete!) and then Ringo played on 18th August before then making his debut at the Cavern.

@@BrightmoonLiverpool Okay cool, but please tell me if the following timeline is correct: *Wednesday, August 15th:* During the day Brian calls Ringo and offers him the job as Pete's permanent replacement, which Ringo accepts. However, Ringo says he cannot start 'til Saturday, August 18th. So Brian does not give the bad news to Pete that day, as they have a show at that night at The Cavern. Pete plays The Cavern, his last show as The Beatles' drummer. *Thursday, August 16th:* Brian told Pete after the show the night before to meet him in his office the next morning on this day, Thursday the 16th. Pete thinks the meeting is routine, wherein Brian picks Pete's brain about various venues and pay rates, as Pete had previously been The Beatles' booking agent. But that's not what the meeting is about, and Brian drops the bombshell on Pete, telling him the boys want him out, and it's already been arranged that Ringo will join the band on Saturday the 18th in Port Sunlight. Brian asks Pete to play later that night, Thursday the 16th, in Chester, one last time for The Beatles. Pete, stunned by the news, agrees. However, Pete does not show up for the Chester gig, and in a pinch Brian asks Hutch to fill-in. After the gig, Brian asks Hutch to be the permanent drummer for The Beatles. Hutch says no, that Pete is his mate and he won't do the dirty on him. Had Hutch agreed, the offer made to Ringo the day before would have been retracted, and The Fab Four would've gone down in history as John, Paul, George and Hutch. *Friday, August 17th:* No Beatles show scheduled. Mersey Beat announces "Beatles Change Drummers!", and that Pete will join Lee Curtis & The All-Stars beginning September 10th. The issue also announces that The Beatles will fly to London on September 4th for their first official recording session as signed artists. *Saturday, August 18th:* Ringo's first show as The Beatles' permanent drummer in Port Sunlight. *Sunday, August 19th:* No Beatles show scheduled *Monday, August 20th:* No Beatles show scheduled *Tuesday, August 21st:* No Beatles show scheduled *Wednesday, August 22nd:* Ringo's second show as The Beatles' permanent drummer, and his first as their permanent drummer at The Cavern. The show is filmed by Granada TV, which had been arranged well in advance by Mona and Pete Best. Pete is not there, obviously, and just like in Port Sunlight, cries of, *"Ringo Never - Pete Best Forever!"* are heard throughout the venue. Word of the betrayal against Pete has spread widely at this point and George Harrison is assaulted with a head butt just off the stage, giving him a shiner so ugly that it's still visible a fortnight later at EMI in the band's first session as signed artists. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

@@Cosmo-Kramer Amazing detail. Never heard the 'Hutch' drama before. Sorry for George having to take the head-knock.

@@Cosmo-Kramer great job. Hutch said in later years that he was never sorry he turned Epstein down. Course, what else would he say? Glad it was Ringo, I wish he had been the first choice, but they did get it right, so that’s what matters. I don’t believe Hutch would have fit as well personality wise, but I have no way of knowing that for sure. Ringo got along with everyone and had the great sense of humor that matched the others. Great drummer to boot.

On the 15th.brian offers drum gig to Ringo,he accepts.....16th... gets Hutch to fill in for Pete then offers Hutch the permanent drum position??...that dosent add up..the Beats wanted Ringo,he told Brian he accepted on the 15th...,could start the 20th,he did..why offer Hutch on Thursday wen Ringo accepted on Wednesday the 15th..???🤔

She is incredible!

He so deserves it!

George's guitar playing at Decca was very average! But the Beatles were always John, Paul, and George as they had been together since the end of 1957! It took Ringo 12 months to break into their triumvirate and it was really Ed Sullivan and going to America that saw him fully settled in as an equal.

Yeah, none of them were the best at their instrument in Liverpool at all. It was the combination of the 4 of them that was unbeatable, together with George Martin.

It was when they had reworked Please Please Me that he realised they had recorded a #1 and could really see the potential.

@@BrightmoonLiverpool Thanks but I don't accept this answer. There have been plenty of one-hit wonders.

@mhpjii There have. I think it took them through the making of the Please Please Me album to really recognise a long term project, especially when the LP and then all singles getting to #1. By summer 63 he really knew they could last.

I agree with you, and having grown up in the 1970s in Liverpool with so much unemployment and deprivation, the Beatles who has left the city in '63 were an irrelevance. As you rightly say, all that changed in December 1980 and we suddenly realised what we had lost.

@@BrightmoonLiverpool Cheers.

I think it refers to what Pete played in the middle eight section of LMD. I quite like it although I can hear it didn't work on that particular take.

@@brendanwalsh108 I'd have to hear it.

It is a term used by some musicologists relating to the variation of the tempo in the middle eight that makes a change in the rhythm.

Thanks for watching!

I know, makes no sense

Where was the train? 🤣🤣

Once they had got into the swing of 1963 and expanding their requirements, it was more about who to add as opposed to replacing the main four. That was never in question, but they were happy to step back if the arrangement needed it eg She's Leaving Home on which none of them played.

The three of them were ruthless! It is the only way to succeed in the business. George was definitely not a saint!

In hindsight, you cannot fault the decision. Ringo proved himself over and over again.

That would have been fair, but this was a ruthless decision. Pete got poor legal advice and tried to sue Brian for wrongful dismissal, which of course was wrong. Thankfully, Anthology meant that he got royalties and finally got his money from the Beatles.