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Can you talk about grind size? Perhaps in microns or common grinders (C40, DF w SSP MP), as it is VERY important. BTW, for me the lid creates a vacuum if put on during the brew, which causes stalling. It’s recommended more to go under, except when storing.

Thanks so much for video. Can you do the same for MHW-3BOMBER torch portafilter pls?

I like your crazy theory of seasoning baskets and would like to propose an even crazier take - maybe it's your brain/sense of taste that takes time to get used to the new basket and fully appreciate what it reveals?

Thank you Jack, I was really intrigued as to how this would compare with other brewers and I'm glad you showcased the Hoop. I've never really enjoyed really long brews which is why I thought this likely isn't for me. However, I must admit the brewing process seems really simple. Simple likely means more consistency? It would be nice to see how this compares to the Orea. I always stick to the same Orea recipe and only adjust the temperature and potentially the grind size depending on the coffee filters I use. I have SSP MP burrs (after your encouragement to go for them) and the Orea seems to work really well and really consistently. I'd be intrigued to see how something simple like the Ceado also compares to something expensive like the Aiden or even the Filter profile on your Decent :D

Awesome might take a look and try getting for a pour over way if making coffee

BPA is just 1 of many off gassing toxins from plastics. Apply heat, AND a solvent like water, and its NOT good on something you use regularly. I know from experience in plastics mfg. Dont regularly drink from it Jack!! lol. BTW, What do you think of the ceramic Bonavita Drip control brewer? Does it have a filter inside? That would be an interesting idea. Maybe with mag-chloride or sulfate, or cal...Would be a interesting gimmick :-)

I know I'm in the minority here, but I've had my Hoop for about a year now and I prefer it over my V60. It did take a few tries to get it dialed in, but once you understand the Hoop, I think it makes a great cup of coffee. Extremely smooth. I've found that if the grind is too COARSE, the Hoop might choke. Using a Fellow Ode grinder with Gen 2 burrs, I grind at one mark below 4. 16 grams of coffee to 250ml water at 93 degrees C. The draw down time is usually about 3-4 minutes.

More BS, and thanks for not making up flavors you might taste to sound important.

Whoa, what a load of BS, sorry could not hold it back. I got my Ceado Hoop the week it launched. Got it for over a year now and IMHO it sucks. Poor design, coffee can back defuse to the outer ring and plug the holes. The actual version 1 did not bring the lid, which by the way will favor stalling due to the pressure difference inside the brewer vs outside. Honestly, DO NOT waste your money on this thing! Used it a couple dozen times, lent it to other coffee nerds and the consensus was that it was too finicky, too gimmicky, too inconsistent and the quality of the brews did not justify the investment of time and money. (3/10 score)

Not sure I am convinced but I can see some of my moto-camping friends could go for that. That said... I don't see why I would be compelled to use this at home. Traveling though, with limited amount of space it can get interesting. Simple and not too big.... if the result is better than other small size solutions, yes! ....it is often surprising how much people carry with them to make a decent coffee at a camping site.

I bought the tamper not due to your amazing video but a random search on Amazon for forced tamper and came across it and love it it works best for me at max force adjustment at like 30 or 35lbs of force. I also got their gravity leveler but not the Titan model which is suppose to be the perfect companion to the tamper didn't see it till just now few days after getting it and using it. So far the muvna company has quality products. About to purchase the Mantis clone wdt tool they have and the Titan gravity leveler as well, to better match the tamper. Never could figure out why there's two springs for the tamper. I like the flat bases more then the ripple too. But haven't noticed any issues with the ripple base at all the tamper does look better the other force tampers. Amazon having a sale right now where it's 45 dollars and not the 65 to 70 dollar price tag it normally is.

Thanks for this discovery Jack 😊 stay safe my favourite coffee tuber 😉

Are you using the competition 20g basket or the double basket? Thankyou. love your content ❤

Thanks so much Jack, yet another great video! Can't wait to see the comparisons going forward!

If it actually needs seasoning, 1kg of coffee isn't nearly enough to season such large burrs but also some people / early testers noted it needed like 15kg (or was it pounds?) before it was working decently for espresso. Otherwise they get bad channeling, I didn't find this to be the case with mine before and after seasoning I don't think I noticed too much difference so they may have improved the finishing on their burrs and fixed the burr issues. For the popcorning people have developed 3d printed / better anti-popcorn hoppers. The main down side to this grinder I found is that it does benefit from slow feeding (for more flavour clarity / less fines and better consistency) but you can't slow feed without it popcorning and making a mess, so the hopper upgrade would be beneficial. The other thing I didn't like was that the knocker retains a lot of coffee and it's not just fines and chaff, so you might not want to waste it and exclude it. I remember enjoying the results for pourover/ brew coffee with the 078s and espresso was very smooth and had a good balance of flavour clarity and body with a nice sweetness usually.

Why do I need to disassemble it?

I have one of these on my coffee bench and really enjoy it and the results in the cup. I don’t change rpm often so being hidden on the back isn’t an issue for me - I use my phone and reverse the camera so I can see the adjustment without moving the machine. Extremely low retention - almost nothing. Is a little hard to work out exactly where you are lined up on the dial for grind size but there is a third party magnetised arrow you can buy to attach to help read front on. Great in white and if you keep your setup clean generally it’s no issue to keep this pristine too. It does require a stack of seasoning with the stock burrs but once you get there shots are highly repeatable. SSP is going to release some 78mm espresso burrs for it so that will be interesting - though likely pricey.

Will wait for the next kickstarter for the Sculptor II. Happy with my 064S.

Awesome video as always, it is a nice looking grinder and I'm sure it works wonders. How do you like it compared to the df83 grinder? Such as noise level speed of grinding, and taste wise with espresso?

Nice video! I have been using a few baskets over the last few years including a VST 18. I like to use 16g of beans for my particular cup size. But I want to see if I can extract two shots from one extraction, so I searched for the largest basket I could find, which was a Pullman 876 25-28g basket. I have had it for a few days, and I can get 30g into it, pull 60g of espresso into a small glass espresso cup, then divide it into two larger cups for myself and my brother. Seems to work quite well!

I have a Timemore 078 and really like it. I only seasoned with about 2 1/2KG beans and not the recommended 5kg. I brewed a cup before seasoning just to see how it tasted (had issues) then after 500g, then about another 500 just to learn and see what it was like. when I reached 2500 kg seasoning I could tell a difference and liked what I was getting so stopped seasoning. i think you will like the 078s and something I may consider getting. By the way, I also tried Dark roasts on it and though it was not too bad, not the best and prefer to use the Baratza Virturoso or Urbanic for those. Thanks for sharing and enjoyed the video.

What will they think of next..😅

I’ve had an 078s for a year or so. Bought at the kickstarter price. I also have a niche zero which has been absolutely faultless for 4y. Does the 078s always beat the Niche? No. It’s very dependent on the individual bean. I always use a bottom puck filter with the 078s. It makes for much more consistent shots. I’d love to see a comparison with the PHILOS. Thanks for the review Jack. I’m one of your regulars!

On the sculptor the rpm works opposite as any other grinder. And the burrs need roughly 20-25kg seasoning. 1300: complex, light body 950: more body, still complex Shot times pretty much underpin the above. Sculptor user since day0

Jack it's great to see more and more companies sending you gear to review. It's a sign that your work and style is getting recognized. That being said, I believe it's time for you to ask local roasters for waste coffee to run through your new burr sets and grinders in order to season them before doing a full review. I'm sure that's more time consuming but it would definitely be a plus for your channel. The 078S burrs often need 5kg + before settling in. It's been covered by most reviews, Aramse's notably.

this is channeling king of all grinders. the burrs are very bad and very disappointing.

next up, Varia VS6 or Acaia orbit maybe?! 😉

If you do a follow up, try slow feeding the 078S for pour over. You're supposed to get much better results. I was surprised that it was pretty much on par with my 078 when I was able to try it that way, very limited comparison but still.

Bought the 78s a few months ago with usage of 3-5 cups a day and are still blown away from the extreme tight tolerances and the quality outcome of ground coffee. It rivals much more expensive grinders I had the chance to use before (were not mine though so limited exposure). I predominantly drink light or medium-light roasts from my region (SE Asia) and because of that only did fine to very fine grinds so far (0.3-0.8, mostly 0.4). Especially with these light roasts the improvements are gigantic. With dark roasts I wouldn't expect that much of a difference. This grinder is crazy in terms of low to no retention at all, what you put in you get out, down to 0.02-0.05 grams. It is crazy. The quality of my coffee improved significantly with the outcome of this grinder. The rpm wheel is no issue for me, I never change it anyways, always on max speed. The in build knocker is genius and contributes to the crazy low retention rate. The magnetic catching cup is not only genius and functional but also very cool and fun to use, every day. I love to use the brush - something I never used before. Negatives: The on/off switch has to be pushed evenly or it doesn't actuate. The round white plastic bits/ends inside the hopper did get a bit brown with time from the oil (you only see when the lid is off). Some broken pieces of bean fines tend to jump out of the hopper (just close the lid). Recently (after 3-4 months) with 0,3 grind setting (extremely fine) I started to hear the burrs occasionally making a slight touching noise. That was not the case in the first months - maybe that can be fixed with maintenance. I have to admit the tight tolerances give me respect to open the grinder and clean it... putting it back together might turn out to be a challenge - but it has to happen at some point. I don't like how the power cable comes out at the back, takes too much space towards the wall or anything behind it, a 90 degree cable would have been better. I do have a white model and yes is can collect some specs of coffee drips or dust but so far it is a pleasure to give it a wipe after using. Overall I love the 78s. I used a 58mm flat steel burr with a strong motor (super noisy) before and was happy with it. Now I am blown away by the difference. How quiet. The retention rate. The quality outcome. I consider the value spectacular, what you get for the price is hard to believe. Oh and even the female of the house is able to use the grinder without issues - it is very easy to use and get good results from. It will come down to how the grinder holds up over the years. My old grinder is over 20 years and still does the job respectably. Curious to see how Timemore will hold up, Chinese engineering and manufacturing versus Italian...

I personally really didn't like its workflow when I tried it - popcorns and I'm not crazy about the snap knocker. And the variable speed switch on the back is just bad design. I really do prefer using the Gevi Grindmaster, but it's not available for sale yet.

Thanks Jack! I had the same grinder but sold it because I didn’t like various aspects of it, like the speed indicator position you mentioned, and the difficulty of getting to the burs for cleaning or alignment. The first time I opened them up it took me over a half hour to figure out how to get them back in place properly. Compared to my Niche and DF64V where burr access is simple and fast, it just wasn’t something I wanted to continue using. Also, my kitchen is a bit dark and I always had trouble seeing where the grind setting was. The grind dial is on the front and the indicator line is on the side? Another bad design decision.

I really love my 078s for espresso. I'm not the biggest fan of the filter coffee it produces. It needs a ton of seasoning from my experience and it really needed 7kg until I got really good shots. I did also get the Turbo Burrs as well but I prefer my 64mm SSP brew. Looking back I should've gotten both 078 and 078s through the kickstarter, so I'd have one for espresso and one for filter. Also looking forward to the 78mm SSP burrs.

Brother how would you rate this against df64v

Just like my shampoo and my soap, I'd much rather have better quality individual parts than an "all in one" or "jack of all trade, master of none" kind of approach but I can see people use that.

Do you prefer this one over the Felicita ARC ? It seems a bit tricky for pour over and I will do pour over AND espressos aha

I got both and there are basically no difference for pour over coffee. Anyone who claimed can tell the differences are joking. From a basic scientific perspective the grind size is going to be within margin of error from adjustments. And people kept saying clarity, sweetness, sour criticness, etc etc like tasting wine... To be real not far before people will say rubber, wood bark, and dog poop taste.

I use a dirt cheap scale from China because i don't need to "dig deep" into coffee 😅

You like the df83v or the df83 grinder better two im looking for as a ipgrade originally was looking at the df64 but the df83 has csught my eye more for some reason

That’s a clever idea. I hate having separate tools cluttering the kitchen worktop.

i made totally different experiences with the Kinu: more soft, rich and in a way full mouth than any other grinder, eben compared with some electrical types like df 64... perhaps it differs from bean to bean type?

Would you recommend it as a travel pour over scale? Need a smart travel scale, and honestly I just love the design of the Bookoo.

Got both from Aliexpress, you basically paid extra for the magnet base, extra foldable handle, and a carrying case. K6 can do 99% of what K-ultra can do

Hi Jack! Question. I have 64mm ssp mp burrs and love them, favourite coffees are high clarity tea like brews. I am thinking about upgrading and I’m between changing my 64mm to the 83mm mp or adding the Timemore 078 and keeping the 64mm mp. Thoughts on whether you think the 83mm mp would be a large improvement compared to adding the 078, which I hear provides juicy brews and perhaps better for more processed coffees. Any thoughts, thanks!

I'd be interested in a "not smart" version, maybe slightly bigger, where I can see the weight and flow rate for espresso. I want some data, but I dont really want that much stuff.

Wow it seems like this company just takes every product on the market and then clones it. So much soul!

Almost impossible!!! 😂 love your sarcasm. Pseudoscience, it’s alive and well.

Wow that's clever

But could you use it with two coffee cups at the same time? With a transparent plate?

"Your video was very helpful. Have a happy November!"

Thanks for this! What kind of roast was this? Looked it up and the roaster looks amazing but roast level wasn't mentioned. Hedrick mentioned he thought the niche might be best with darker styles. Thanks again, love your blind tastings!