100% agree. It might be the Chinese way of describing products that somehow doesn’t translate well into English but the most important is that their tools are very decent.
I think that even though it is an intriguing piece of gear, I still think manual wdt is hard to beat given it's free and more flexible in terms of function. I would say the mhw-3bomber one would be a great choice for high volume workflow like a cafe setting (would be definitely better than the leveler)
i've been "exploring" different WDT tools for a while, and every now and then i switch between regular "Flic" WDT tool (from Nanofoamer), 3d printed Spirographic tool (bought from Etsy), and MHW version of the blind shaker. I honestly can't tell the difference in taste, but for me the workflow is much quicker with the "regular" WDT: using MHW blind shaker you have to do some manual distribution after shaking the grounds into the basket , as (you probably know) when it lays inside the basket it creates a wide circle - so double the work (not to mention I also use a funnel to keep things less messy). but..the shaking bit is kinda fun. the spirographic tool requires me to use the funnel as well so I haven't been using it much lately. I wonder what's your current favorite..?
Thx for sharing your experience. I bought this WDT only to record this video but I like it so much I might keep it. It is not perfect but it speeds up my workflow and that is what counts when you drink so much coffee as myself 😛
Mine has just turned up along with their gravity distribution tool. I feel the more things I can make consistent the less I need to wonder if it's me and my methods!
I agree with you. Especially for when I do comparison videos with different baskets or grinders, I want to keep as many things consistent as possible. I should be getting the rest of MHW tools soon 😁
Very good and fun review. I think the Bomber is faster for sure but not as good and precise. Honestly it really doesn't take 60sec with a regular WDT, I don't know anyone who takes that long to make a descent bed. It might be 5-10 seconds at most? The Bomber seems fun but too bulky and unnecessary or overkill? I would try it if I had the chance before buying but I got way too many WDTs already lol.
@@PanzerIV88 thx for watching. Maybe I overestimated the time of doing wdt by hand but I really like this MHW tool and use it daily. They recently improved the design slightly, by adding longer needles.
"Nothing really beats your hand" 😂 . This statement is so true. It still works even when the wife is mad at your stupid coffee hobby. Thanks Jack for another great video!
@@Madmax-os2jt I haven’t had that issue. I guess it depends on the actual basket but I have been told MHW will supply longer needles with it for that particular reason
@@mycoffeeshow111 mine is a 20g basket, so it's understandable, but it should cover that range of adjustment or warn users about the range it works for
On their website it says that inner diameter is 56.5mm so my guess would be that it should work but it is only a guess. Would it be effective though, I don’t know.
I also have a 57mm portafilter. Once this becomes available in my local market i will buy one lol. If doesn’t fit i’ll just keep it for a future machine upgrade 😅
I went out and bought a blind shaker after that video and, well, at least for me I can't stand that workflow. Not only did the bed end up being only marginally better than no prep at all, but now I have to brush out the shaker after every shot, too. I went back to wdt after just a few days.
The needles are spinning too fast. It might cause the coffee grounds to be pushed to the side of the puck. The same happens when you rotate a moonraker too fast.
Nice, thanks. If this had been planetary it would have cleaned up, it looks the part and is almost there function & material wise, just let down by being radial.
@@anarky277 I think you can find it cheaper on special offer. I was always worrying about consistency of my WDT b4, which could affect the results of my tests. With this one, hopefully, at least this problem will be solved.
Hi, thank you. I got it during London Coffee Festival but you can order it online and they would ship to UK for reasonable price. Right now I enjoy Nomad Coffee Roasters from Spain, very good for pour overs.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Oh I see, LCF! That's how it must have made its way into the cupping session. Glad you're enjoying Nomad :-) PS: your video editing skills skyrocketed since the early days - keep on the good work, Jack! :-)
@@Pawel-D i forgot the name. Omniroast , anaerobic, natural. Colombia I think. Raspberries are the main flavour note. I have used it for one of my videos, that will be uploaded next week.
I wonder if these would be good for café use - regular WDT tools can easily get broken / bent up in a fast paced setting but this looks nice and easy with just the press and then put back on the table Slipped discs aren’t fun at all - get better soon man!
Thx for your support. I made remarkable recovery. I am sports therapist by trade which helps. I can see this WDT being useful for cafes but if you in rush and spinn it too fast you still might be left with very uneven coffee. bed
The Chinese can certainly be very clever but they can also certainly be very ridiculous at the same time. They seriously need to reign in the second half of the team.
Their marketing is so over the top but I like their products. It’s not just cheaper versions of existing stuff, they actually innovate
100% agree. It might be the Chinese way of describing products that somehow doesn’t translate well into English but the most important is that their tools are very decent.
Indeed, they make a bit of the weirdest stuff, unlike western companies who like to play it safe 3bomber likes to experiment,
@@darknessblades I should be playing with their new tamper soon 😁
The humor + information you bring is amazing! Great content as always!! Favorite coffee TH-cam by far!!
Thank you for your kind words!
Thanks for this video. It looks like since the needles retract, there's less chance of bending them during use. Very cool.
@@xmanual thx for watching. I really like this one and use it every day.
All the best with your back, Jacques.
Thx. I made remarkable recovery. Even managed to do some squats and deadlifts this morning
I hope you'll get better soon, Jack. thx for the video! waiting for varia flo's review))
Thank you. I am recovering remarkably well. Next week we will have Orea V3 vs V4 but I am already working on Varia review.
I think that even though it is an intriguing piece of gear, I still think manual wdt is hard to beat given it's free and more flexible in terms of function. I would say the mhw-3bomber one would be a great choice for high volume workflow like a cafe setting (would be definitely better than the leveler)
You are right here but it speeds up my workflow a lot and that is why I like it.
@mycoffeeshow111 yeah getting basically the same result but in a fraction of the time it takes to do manually is a win in my book
i've been "exploring" different WDT tools for a while, and every now and then i switch between regular "Flic" WDT tool (from Nanofoamer), 3d printed Spirographic tool (bought from Etsy), and MHW version of the blind shaker. I honestly can't tell the difference in taste, but for me the workflow is much quicker with the "regular" WDT:
using MHW blind shaker you have to do some manual distribution after shaking the grounds into the basket , as (you probably know) when it lays inside the basket it creates a wide circle - so double the work (not to mention I also use a funnel to keep things less messy). but..the shaking bit is kinda fun. the spirographic tool requires me to use the funnel as well so I haven't been using it much lately. I wonder what's your current favorite..?
Thx for sharing your experience. I bought this WDT only to record this video but I like it so much I might keep it. It is not perfect but it speeds up my workflow and that is what counts when you drink so much coffee as myself 😛
@@mycoffeeshow111 good thing there's a sale right now on AE :))
@@anonylesss AE?
@@anonylesss yeah, I noticed that I overpaid. It is £10 cheaper right now.
@@lowfuel6089 Ali Express
Amazing review, was curious about this one!
Get well soon!!!
Thank you! I should have more MHW tools to review soon.
Mine has just turned up along with their gravity distribution tool. I feel the more things I can make consistent the less I need to wonder if it's me and my methods!
I agree with you. Especially for when I do comparison videos with different baskets or grinders, I want to keep as many things consistent as possible. I should be getting the rest of MHW tools soon 😁
Very good and fun review. I think the Bomber is faster for sure but not as good and precise. Honestly it really doesn't take 60sec with a regular WDT, I don't know anyone who takes that long to make a descent bed. It might be 5-10 seconds at most? The Bomber seems fun but too bulky and unnecessary or overkill? I would try it if I had the chance before buying but I got way too many WDTs already lol.
@@PanzerIV88 thx for watching. Maybe I overestimated the time of doing wdt by hand but I really like this MHW tool and use it daily. They recently improved the design slightly, by adding longer needles.
I feel like these things always leave an unwanted ridge of coffee on the outside of the coffee bed
@@hpd_hero I am happy with the results. It speeds up the process vs regular wdt and the results are ok.
Did you try their TI scale ?
Never even knew they make scales now. I should have some more MHW tools to review soon. Coffee container seems interesting.
It looks cool, but my regular $10 wdt tool it does the same job!
Can’t argue with that. It speeds up my workflow though hence I consider keeping it for good.
"Nothing really beats your hand" 😂 . This statement is so true. It still works even when the wife is mad at your stupid coffee hobby.
Thanks Jack for another great video!
Hahaha, I am too innocent to understand that 😛 Thx for watching!
Too bad it doesn't have depth needed for the bigger baskets, it goes less than half way at the deepest setting
I haven’t used such a deep baskets. It works with all of mine.
Im reading a lot that it will not touch ground on a 18g basket. Is that true ?
@@Madmax-os2jt I haven’t had that issue. I guess it depends on the actual basket but I have been told MHW will supply longer needles with it for that particular reason
@@mycoffeeshow111 mine is a 20g basket, so it's understandable, but it should cover that range of adjustment or warn users about the range it works for
@@hittemni you are right here. As I said they will improve it.
Do you think it would work on a 57mm Lelit porterfilter?
On their website it says that inner diameter is 56.5mm so my guess would be that it should work but it is only a guess. Would it be effective though, I don’t know.
I also have a 57mm portafilter. Once this becomes available in my local market i will buy one lol. If doesn’t fit i’ll just keep it for a future machine upgrade 😅
@@pinoyxbox I ordered one yesterday from Aliexpress. I'll update here if it fits.
@@asafseri-levy4315 looking forward on it
Looks nice. They are discriminating against us 54mm breville users tho 😂😂😂
You can always get their simple WDT that works for all 😁
Still wondering if ita worth it after Lance Hendrick video about WDT vs blind shake
Well, I put my blind shaking video in the description if you want to check but for myself, I prefer this wdt.
I went out and bought a blind shaker after that video and, well, at least for me I can't stand that workflow. Not only did the bed end up being only marginally better than no prep at all, but now I have to brush out the shaker after every shot, too. I went back to wdt after just a few days.
@@lowfuel6089 yeah, blind shaker is not for me either but I respect those who use it.
The needles are spinning too fast. It might cause the coffee grounds to be pushed to the side of the puck. The same happens when you rotate a moonraker too fast.
Yeah, that’s why I recommended to do it slowly to minimise that.
Nice, thanks. If this had been planetary it would have cleaned up, it looks the part and is almost there function & material wise, just let down by being radial.
Thx for watching. Still searching for perfect tool but this one is not bad at all.
@@mycoffeeshow111 yep, I've come very close to buying it, but 65 goes a long way towards lots of coffee bits and bats.
@@anarky277 I think you can find it cheaper on special offer. I was always worrying about consistency of my WDT b4, which could affect the results of my tests. With this one, hopefully, at least this problem will be solved.
Hi Jack, how did you get hold of this Indian coffee? I think I tasted it at a cupping event here in London :-) PS: get well soon!
Hi, thank you.
I got it during London Coffee Festival but you can order it online and they would ship to UK for reasonable price. Right now I enjoy Nomad Coffee Roasters from Spain, very good for pour overs.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Oh I see, LCF! That's how it must have made its way into the cupping session. Glad you're enjoying Nomad :-) PS: your video editing skills skyrocketed since the early days - keep on the good work, Jack! :-)
@@Pawel-D thank you very much. Nostos has very good coffee now from threemarks. If you have a chance, get a bag. Very nice.
@@mycoffeeshow111 I went to Nostos for a flight set tasting: Daterra, El Alizal, El Placer. Which one are you drinking? :-)
@@Pawel-D i forgot the name. Omniroast , anaerobic, natural. Colombia I think. Raspberries are the main flavour note. I have used it for one of my videos, that will be uploaded next week.
Indeed brother 🎉 this is the one ☝️
Thx for watching!
spirographic tools are better . umikot 3d printed one is the best ive tried
Umikot I haven’t tried but I had one from Etsy and wasn’t impressed. Have a look: th-cam.com/video/aHVdEY9i9xo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xYPe7XxehVPCHst8
Is it me or was the branding intentional? Technically, bombers make hearts warm (MHW)...
Hahaha, I don’t know tbh but you might be onto something here 😛
I wonder if these would be good for café use - regular WDT tools can easily get broken / bent up in a fast paced setting but this looks nice and easy with just the press and then put back on the table
Slipped discs aren’t fun at all - get better soon man!
Thx for your support. I made remarkable recovery. I am sports therapist by trade which helps.
I can see this WDT being useful for cafes but if you in rush and spinn it too fast you still might be left with very uneven coffee. bed
The Chinese can certainly be very clever but they can also certainly be very ridiculous at the same time. They seriously need to reign in the second half of the team.
@@darylfortney8081 next week I am reviewing their newest toy- impact tamper.
Not buying unless they remove all branding from it. I don’t want WW2 bombers on my coffee gear.
You would have to contact them about it. So far they haven’t responded to any of my messages.
It does look nixe, but pricey for a chinese product.
You can find it a bit cheaper now but still around £55 plus tax
@@mycoffeeshow111 Well, I just bought one at a similar price to that, so I guess you're right 😂
@@FatNorthernBigot please let me know how you like it. I should have more tools from MHW to review soon.