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VC Edge
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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2020
Knife making carbon fiber knives and CNC machining.
Tormach 1100MX BT30 complete spindle rebuild 4K video
My attempt at a full rebuild of the Tormach 1100MX BT30 spindle.
Step by step:
Full dissasembly
New precision bearings as well as a look at why the originals might not last long.
Full reassembly
Do this at your own risk.
Reference docs:
New bearings
NSK 7008CTRDUL P4Y (Lower)
NSK 7006CTRDUL P4Y (Upper)
NSK bearing tables
www.nsk.com/common/data/ctrgPdf/bearings/split/e1103/nsk_cat_e1103b_partc.pdf#page=36
Angular contact bearing arrangement
nsk.com.br/upload/file/NSK_CAT_E1254f_148-151.pdf
Bearing fill
www.nsk.com/common/data/ctrgPdf/bearings/e728g.pdf#page=92
Bearing break in procedure
www.gmnbt.com/precision-bearing-breakin-procedure/
Step by step:
Full dissasembly
New precision bearings as well as a look at why the originals might not last long.
Full reassembly
Do this at your own risk.
Reference docs:
New bearings
NSK 7008CTRDUL P4Y (Lower)
NSK 7006CTRDUL P4Y (Upper)
NSK bearing tables
www.nsk.com/common/data/ctrgPdf/bearings/split/e1103/nsk_cat_e1103b_partc.pdf#page=36
Angular contact bearing arrangement
nsk.com.br/upload/file/NSK_CAT_E1254f_148-151.pdf
Bearing fill
www.nsk.com/common/data/ctrgPdf/bearings/e728g.pdf#page=92
Bearing break in procedure
www.gmnbt.com/precision-bearing-breakin-procedure/
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Making my first full custom knife! Interface #040 Shop sounds only, No talking.
มุมมอง 2.1K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Making my first full custom ordered VC Edge Interface knife with timascus, fatcarbon, lots of extra had finishing and special features. Just a little bit of the process. Put on some of your favorite music while watching or enjoy as is. Special thanks to Jeff Rawson for commissioning this piece. Check out his Instagram @plates_n_blades
Inspecting and upgrading an older knife
มุมมอง 7333 ปีที่แล้ว
Taking a close look at an older VC Edge Interface knife that has been in service for over a year and a half. I'm making a couple of upgrades on it for my dad as a father day gift since he uses it all the time. I've made so many changes since this knife was made and I continue to do so now. The knives keep getting better and better, but it's amazing how good they were even this close to the begi...
Interface Knife making part 11, Handle/Lockbar redesign
มุมมอง 2.5K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Showing how I make the new 2 piece integral lockbar handle scale for the VC Edge Interface knife. www.vcedgeknives.com/
Tool Changer Problem and fix for the Tormach 1100MX
มุมมอง 11K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Correcting a tool changing error I've been having intermittently. I'm told this is a somewhat rare condition but here's how I fixed it. Error code: ATC-Spindle brake failure, orient drifted
Interface Knife making part 10, Assembly Anodizing and Sharpening
มุมมอง 3.2K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Completing the first production knife I made on the Tormach 1100MX. My knife is called the "Interface" from VC Edge. This video covers Assembly, Sharpening and Anodizing. As this video is released I am finishing the remaining knives in this batch. I'll post another video when they're all ready!😎 www.vcedgeknives.com/
Interface Knife making part 9, The Carbon fiber Blade body
มุมมอง 3.3K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Machining the carbon fiber blade body pieces for the Interface knife. Assembling all the carbon and steel blade parts. More machining, then hand finishing the surfaces. www.vcedgeknives.com/
Interface Knife making part 8, The Blade Core
มุมมอง 2K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Machining and heat treating the S35VN Blade core for the Interface knife. Also adding an air blast into the 1100MX machine for cutting hardened steel parts. www.vcedgeknives.com/
Interface Knife making part 7, Hardened Lock inserts
มุมมอง 1.7K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Making hardened steel lockbar inserts and lockface/detent tracks. Also fixing a coolant delay on the Tormach 1100MX. www.vcedgeknives.com/
Interface Knife making Part 6, Pivot Hardware
มุมมอง 2.7K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Making the titanium pivot screws. www.vcedgeknives.com/
Interface knife making part 5, Custom Bearings
มุมมอง 3K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Making custom bearing cages out of titanium for the the Interface Knife. www.vcedgeknives.com/
Interface Knife making Part 4, Carbon handle scales
มุมมอง 4.3K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Machining the carbon fiber handle scales and test fitting some parts that attach to it. www.vcedgeknives.com/
Carbon fiber and Titanium bottle opener
มุมมอง 1.4K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Machining some unreasonably awesome bottle openers out of Titanium and Carbon fiber!
Tormach 1100MX Mods Part 2, coolant filtration
มุมมอง 3.7K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Adding some filtration for the flood coolant system on my Tormach 1100MX CNC Machine.
Interface knife making Part 3, The Lockbar.
มุมมอง 6K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Interface knife making Part 3, The Lockbar.
Finishing the 4th axis Tombstone and new Spindle nose comparison.
มุมมอง 6K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Finishing the 4th axis Tombstone and new Spindle nose comparison.
4th axis Mini Tombstone low profile Tailstock
มุมมอง 11K4 ปีที่แล้ว
4th axis Mini Tombstone low profile Tailstock
Spindle Problem on my Tormach 1100MX, and Repair.
มุมมอง 30K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Spindle Problem on my Tormach 1100MX, and Repair.
4th axis tombstone setup for the Tormach MicroARC
มุมมอง 34K4 ปีที่แล้ว
4th axis tombstone setup for the Tormach MicroARC
Making a 4th axis tombstone adapter plate for the Tormach MicroARC
มุมมอง 7K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Making a 4th axis tombstone adapter plate for the Tormach MicroARC
MicroARC 4th axis installation on the Tormach 1100MX
มุมมอง 10K4 ปีที่แล้ว
MicroARC 4th axis installation on the Tormach 1100MX
Can you cut Titanium with a Tile Saw? Lets find out!
มุมมอง 7K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Can you cut Titanium with a Tile Saw? Lets find out!
Interface knife making Part 2, The Pocket Clip
มุมมอง 2K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Interface knife making Part 2, The Pocket Clip
Interface knife making Part 1. The Backspacer
มุมมอง 1.7K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Interface knife making Part 1. The Backspacer
1100MX Backlash compensation Pathpilot V2.6.0
มุมมอง 1.5K4 ปีที่แล้ว
1100MX Backlash compensation Pathpilot V2.6.0
VC Edge Intro and Tormach 1100MX Mods Part 1
มุมมอง 3.1K4 ปีที่แล้ว
VC Edge Intro and Tormach 1100MX Mods Part 1
Do you gonna upload again?
Thank you
Maybe the material is stuck there..
At 7:54, the spacers mic out the same. If so, then the larger spacer would be floating. The bearing inner race width is usually wider than the outside race by at least a few thou anyway. I don't understand the larger spacers function in that assy. I would think that it would preload the bearing races when torquing the cap down. Or is that the design of that "spindle assembly"? I have no spindle experience. Just trying to grasp it all. Thanks Great video by the way. Part numbers, grease volumes to boot.
The way the bearing are designed, in a situation where they sit in direct contact with each other, the outer races contact first then the inner after being tightened down with the nut. The amount of pressure that the outer race gets is determined by how the bearing set was made. It's actually shown in the part number, The "L" in this case indicates "light" preload. There is also a medium and I believe a heavy option. In order to preserve this preload condition the spacer have to be exactly the same length. I don't know exactly why the spacers are there in the spindle design but my guess is that it increases the overall stability of the setup.
Good idea getting some sealed bearings on hand, as well as drilling those holes. If you have sealed bearings next time, you should try heating them up before installing. How have those bearings been holding up? Thanks for the video.
Sealed ones seem to be a little harder to find but that would help. I'll definitely heat them next time, that would be a much more clean and delicate way to do it. The bearings are holding up fine but the lower ones runs hotter than I'd like. Next time I'll try reducing the amount of grease a bit and see if that does does it.
I just took my knife apart yesterday to clean and adjust, and once again marveled at this design and the beautiful machining. Such a special, special creation, thanks for all the attention you put into it and sharing how you put this all together. This knife will never leave my collection!
Sorry my Friend Where can buy this Spindle and show me the name size, please?
Where did you purchase the bearings from and how have they faired?
do you still make knives?
Nice job are the new NSK bearing holding up still ?
They are holding up just fine. Even though the lower bearing runs just as hot as it did at the beginning it's not showing any signs of distress. I think it may just have slightly too much grease for the higher rpms. Sometimes the heat causes issues with tool changes so try to avoid that if you can.
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I suggest you start with NOT USING WATER!! That is, unless you want to start a thermite reaction and burn your shop to the ground. ANYONE WATCHING THIS MORON AND THINKING ABOUT TRYING THIS, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, DO NOT DO THIS NEAR ANY WATER! THE CONSEQUENCES CAN BE LETHAL!
Nice job! How’s this spindle holding up? I wish I could get on for my pcnc1100 it would be awesome to have a 30 taper.
Just rebuilt my spindle today with your help, so thank you! My machine was cutting good parts but the whining noise was driving my coworkers crazy. My lower bearings were still fine, the top of my upper bearings looked like it had a little contamination/corrosion. Just finished the break-in and the noise level is way, way better. Hopefully it will last another couple years.
Glad to hear it!! Happy I was able to help.
CSC = German bearing manufacurer
A tile saw blade will not cut you unless you get your hand (finger) wedged in the blade or push at the blade very hard!
Very good video, we have cnc router router that we had to replace the spindle on last year, different configuration but i would assume the working principles are the same, what happen it just got to where it would move over the tool to make too make a change, push down to load the tool and stop, it was like the gripper would not close down on the tool Itself, thoroughly cleaned and lubricated the grippers but got the same result, re cycled the machine while it was over the tool in the load postion I gave a tap wlth a dead blow hammer and picked up the tool. I would assume that there are some type of spring or connical washer either broken or sticking. called around most spindle rebuider's where telling me that between 8and 14k to rebuild. I actully purchased a used one off ebay and has worked fine , thought bout just tearing into the old one and attempting to do the repair or rebuild myself, just dont think it could be that complicated, i have a lot of experince rebuilding other type's of machine spindles for example moulders and shaper's.
super cheap and crappy design of these spindles I must say
Would have been nice to list the parts you used! And a link to Part 1...
See the video of robenz for greasing with kubler on taper bearing
they have tested it with 10000 rmp . the result is clearly visible,, spindles should run in an oil bath like on engines,,
8000RMP grease will be thrown out,,I don't understand how they make spindles like that,,anyone with rotation in their head can see that it won't be there very long
Why don't you just program the table to move taller parts out of the way of the spindle before doing a tool change, you may have to manually add it to the program but it would just be adding one extra rapid movement line such as a G00 X-7.0 before the tool change. Instead of using shoulder bolts for locating try using dowel pins, press fit on one part and a tight slip fit on the other.
Really nice work, fantastic finish
Not sure if I'm correct here but I would have just bored out the hole for the bearing and faced off all 4 sides of the tombstone on the machine again and I believe that would given you 4 perfectly level faces. correct?
Welds look fine to me 😊. My 440 needs filtration. Thank you for the tips.
Awesome!
Helped me again when I went to setup my 4th axis. Appreciate the work you put into these videos.
Given the limited amount of steel in the blade core, how do you recommend sharpening the interface so as not to sharpen away the all steel core itself? Just strop and only strop?
The same advice I'd give for any knife but especially for these or san-mai type steels. Strop to sharp at first. If that's not working anymore then try touching up with a ceramic rod. If that's not enough then sharpen the entire edge evenly with as little material removal as possible using a fixed angle system, 1200 grit diamond at 20 degrees(it doesn't take much since the edge is very thin). It will take a lot to sharpen away all the steel, even if used frequently but it does depend on what you're doing with it and if you sharpen more than necessary.
@@vcedge9466 thank you, Jason. I’m super pumped about getting in on this order. Also, I appreciate the quick, detailed response!
Angular contact bearings should have a continues force applied. It is best not to hammer on them but have a continues force (use a press or something similar). Note the < mark. This mark tells what wall force can be applied to. Make sure to calculate out the proper grease amount G=K*Gref. Check out SKF guide on initial bearing fill (it is based on bearing inner volume and rpm). Please don't put tape on the angular contact bearing. Also, make sure to break in the bearings slowly so the grease spreads evenly in addition to evenly distributing the grease when filling the bearing.
5:59 Measure one pin and set the caliper to INC. Now you can measure the diameter without the need to do calculations. 😊
You should convert to 5 barring and air oil. if you have clean air.
It's obvious nothing's real clean. Did you see all the shit inside that thing.
So I followed this video and replaced my old bearings with the ones you used. Spindle is immaculate. However now i am having trouble with spindle orientation.
Do you still make these?
Is the spindle still performing ? I thought I saw a FB thread somewhere that said you may be having it rebuilt by a professional rebuild center and at a much higher cost.
I had another one rebuilt to compare even though this one is working fine. The only issue is the heat causing tool changes to be not 100% unreliable. We will see how the professional rebuild turns out when I have some time on it. Lots more expensive though.
That’s amazing 😮
16:35 When having bearings in this arrangement it actually is quite important to torque them accordingly, that is specifically important for the longlivity of the bearings. If you put it too tight the stress on the bearing can easily become problematic, it's good that you were gentle. They should provide a spec
Someday I'll own one
*4:30** Nice knife, what is it?*
Please make a simple screw jack kind with a metal plate and 3 studs to remove or fix bearings onto the spindle shaft. Dont hammer
6:28 there is a P5 digits on the product code I can see, this probably means it is a P5 precision class bearings. P5 is the cheapest and the lowest quality for precision parameter. A P2 precision class is the most precise bearing, with nanometer-scale tolerances, you would have a runout of less than 1 micron on such bearings and a spindle would cost about 3k to 4k USD
I think it was necessary to grind the rings to achieve duplexing
good afternoon, can you please recommend some good literature on repairing and duplexing spindles?
Why are the painting falling of your machine ?
That’s I N S A N E
I rebuilt my spindle with the same bearings, but it never ran as nice as a stock spindle. I ran the rebuilt spindle for about a day, then ordered a new one f4om tormach. In my case, the rebuild wax an expensive waste of time, especially seeing how inexpensive a tormach spindle is.
As Stefan says, 'When you buy chinese, you are just buying a kit of parts'.
Just wondering how ths preload can be correct when you have the tape on outer bearing race face and not on the inner?
What type of epoxy do you bond the core with?
I did rebuilds on numerous spindles during my 26 years as a CNC tech on Mazak machines. The reason for the grease being thrown out of the bearing is that the bearing must be totally dry (no oil) before it is greased. The grease does not stick properly to the bearing if there is any oil present. I used to wash the bearings in an acetone bath before fitment.
Super smart. Thanx for the ideea.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.