@@malnuman1836it’s a 750w motor and the peak output on this bike with a full charge is around 1360w. Hence why it’s still one of the best single motor bikes for hill climbing.
Thanks for the great review, just ordered one. I did use your code rather than their own code for the discount, so cheers for that. Looking forward to getting out on it. All the best.
Your video convinced me. I am unathletic and not a lightweight, live in an area with many long and steep hills, so unfortunately the great Fafrees were ruled out for me, as they are all quite weakly motorized. So I'm really thrilled with the power and torque of the i7 pro v2!
This looks to be a very nice Fat Tyre E-Bike at a very attractive price. I have had a bike very similar to this for around 4 years now, it's a good bike with one or two negatives. I like to ride along canal tow paths, and on tow paths which have ruts made in them made by many bikes traveling along them. The ruts tend to act like tram lines, and the small wheels get stuck in the ruts and I have been thrown off the bike on more than one occasion. I have never had this happen with my bike with 26 inch fat tyres. I have also had the battery lock get jammed up with grit from mud being thrown up from the front wheel, and then had to remove the lock from the battery and clean it out.
I am subscribed to an American who has this bike and he has done 2000 miles on his. He thinks it's a great bike. I wanted this bike too but vitilan told me that I couldn't get it because I lived in the uk. I have the big game bikes impala alpha plus now 250 watt.
The mark on the front fork is from the fork under load scratching the bolt holding the mudguard and light. Should of been picked up in manufacturing/design easy fix take out bolt grind down bolt a mm or so
That bikes haunted. 😂 Creeeeeeek. 😢 When I reviewed the Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 a few weeks ago I was massively surprised by the torque and torque sensor. It’s currently my favourite e-bike, you’ll see what I mean when you review it.
@@e-VRC have have both the 1.0 and 2.0 here and there’s not a lot in it. My second ever e-bike was the 1.0 and even though I had issues with it, it’s still to this day a great bike. Roll on 2 years, Engwe have updated the frame on both bikes, and thrown a 52v battery into that 2.0 frame, the same 23amp controller as the 1.0 and for some unknown reason it’s made the bike more nimble … it’s feels more like the X. Anyway, you’ll see. You’re going to struggle to find real fault with it. My biggest issue was the seat, it’s not the most comfortable.
@@ModProjects4306 yeah I was a big fan of the 1.0 and the direct drive motor was interesting with the regen. I'm guessing they scrapped it for the 2.0. I never got round to trying the X sadly.
@@matejsmugala4640 yea, I'm trying to decide between the Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 and the Vitilan i7 Pro 3.0 now. Seems Vitilan switched to a no-name brand motor instead of having Bafang.
I am trying to decide between the Vitilan I7 Pro 3 and the Engwe Engine Pro 2. Does the cadence sensor in the vitilan I7 pro cause the bike to speed off dangerously? Compared to the seemingly more controlled torque sensor of the Engine Pro? Also, the throttle only goes to 20 mph on the Engwe Engine Pro. Is it a little bit slow? I think I am veering towards the I7 pro 3, but im just interested to know if anyone could give me their experiences on either of these bikes.
Hi,welcome to the nightmare of deciding which Fat tyre E-Bike to get lol. ViTiLAN-i7 Pro 2 48V 20Ah 960Wh battery. 80 Nm 750w Bafang motor. 180mm Hydraulic Disc Brakes. 18 Months Warranty. Engwe Engine Pro 2.0, 52V 16Ah 832Wh battery 75 Nm Unknown motor. 160mm Hydraulic Disc Brakes 12 Months Warranty. The ViTiLAN-i7 Pro 3 does not have a Bafang motor,and the display is different. The acceleration is instant and fast,but the default for PAS 2 is only 11Mph,and the180mm hydraulic disc brakes are very good. I go into 0 (No power) when my i7 Pro 2 is stationary,then in 2 to get started,then PAS 3 that gives me around 18Mph-21Mph. PAS 4 and 5 (for me) are more like Sport and Turbo modes,I use them for a mad ten minutes across country or,short bursts to get up very steep hills. Fastest I've been so far is 33.7Mph,and furthest is 37 Miles with 2 bars out of 5 left on the display. My ViTiLAN came with some minor issues that took me a few weeks of riding to fix,apart from the display,that I can't see in sunlight. I haven't owned an Engwe Engine Pro 2.0,or any Engwe E-Bike.
@EBR-UK Thanks for the reply. It's proving to be a much tougher sescision than I thought....1st world problems ehh.😄 I am a little concerned the new motor on the pro 3 won't be as good as the Bafang. The pro 2 seems to be sold out in Ireland. I am not seeing any new reviews for this newer version. I wonder if it still has the same torque settings and overall capability. The Engwe Engine Pro seems to be the steady option, albeit a little safe.
For me, the difference that made me choose the PVY z20 Plus 1000 was the frame design. In my opinion (not expert) the PVY frame which is the same as a Mate X, has a better rear suspension design. The rear shock that PVY ships, is actually bad, but if you upgrade it I'm expecting that you will be with a more reliable bike than the Engwe's Engine Pro style frame. What is your opinion on this? Which frame design do you prefer?
I like the look of the i7 / engine pro one more but they feel the same really. I feel like your weight directly compresses the Pvy suspension whereas it indirectly presses the engine/i7 suspension via the hinge thing. But in practise they feel the same.
Cheers. Apart from torque sensors being much faster at kicking in I'm not a massive fan. They're definitely better but I quite like a cadence for ghost pedalling at full power. I'm lazy I guess 😅
Hi Pro E-Bike Tester 👏👍👍👍😀 i have watched several videos of ebikes that have 20 x 4" fat tire wheels and it looks like it bounces up and down a lot!? My question is, are these 20 x 4" fat tire wheels more prone to this phenomenon - more than let's say 26 x 3" ?
Haven’t noticed this, have noticed the incredible stability and confidence fat tyres give. I wouldn’t go back to normal thickness bike tyres. Can ride through a foot of water like it’s absolutely nothing I love it.
@@jamieniche Hi,my iPro 2 has a 'Bafang motor' and 'LED Colour Display',the iPro 3 has a 'more economical motor brand',and 'Intelligent Colour Display'.
I was going to purchase the Engwe engine pro 2.0 until i just saw this video. For £300 less it’s going to be hard to not pick this bike over the engine pro
Engine pro 2.0 cannot do full speed of 28mph in throttle only. You need to peddle to reach max speed. This is why I avoided it. Too restrictive for freedom-minded people.
@@peternicholas3858 yes this is one of the reasons i am drawn to this i7 pro, its also cheaper, has a 20ah samsung battery, comes with free mirrors, phone holder & lock. The things i am not sure about though is the customer service/warranty & this being cadence sensor compared to the engine torque sensor.
@@ledouu cadence sensor is the best IF it is smooth and doesn't jerk the bike when it activates and deactivates, which is the case with the vitilan. It helps you use the ebike like it's meant to be, with the least peddling effort to ride. Torque sensor does require effort from you, which is a mix between a regular bike and ebike. I prefer 100% ebike riding with a good quality cadence sensor like vitilan has in their models.
@@ledouu I have the vitilan I7 and it's great. But I have no clue what customer service is like as I didn't need any assistance. The way I see it.... if I ever need service out of warranty, I can either fix it myself as parts are standard and available online. Or I can take it to a shop. After 5 years or so? I'd probably like to get whatever is newer and faster.
Good review, thanks! one thing to note though, no matter how good it is, its still not UK road legal as doesnt have "250W" stamped on the motor, so for me the better bikes are the Engwe L20 or the PVY Z20 Plus 1000 for UK road use, both stamped 250W even though has larger motors and can be restricted to 15.5mph and switch off throttle.
@@frankgallagher7812not all of us have disposable income to throw £1100 away if it gets confiscated plus the points on license lol. So yeh. People care. It’s what made me get rid of my Electric Unicycles.
tbf the motor isn't visible at all on this due to the mag wheels encasing it. I'm not sure which setting adjusts the speed- I'm going to look into that. They told me throttle can't be switched off but of course it's easily disconnected.
@@bigup7777 Oh I definitely care. I know very few people that will be ok with losing a £1100 bike or getting points. I get really paranoid on moped style ebikes and escooters. But anything that looks like a bike I'm ok with as long as I'm being sensible. Unicycles and esk8s though I never worry. I just don't feel they're targeted if you know what I mean. I've been past loads of police on both.
Engine pro 2.0 cannot do full speed of 28mph in throttle only. You need to peddle to reach max speed. This is why I avoided it. Too restrictive for freedom-minded people.
Hi,I'm also looking at the Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 and ViTiLAN-I7 PRO 2 and will probably go for the I7 because it has the most battery Wh for distance and a few more Nm. Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 52V-16Ah- 832Wh battery 75 Nm 750w Unknown motor. 160mm Hydraulic Disc Brakes 12 Months Warranty ViTiLAN-I7 PRO 2 48V-20Ah-960Wh battery. 80 Nm Bafang motor. 180mm Hydraulic Disc Brakes. 18 Months Warranty I7 is also cheaper,has bigger brake disks,a longer warranty and they sell spare parts like controllers on their web site as well. I don't see anything wrong with the Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 and it looks like a great E-Bike,its just that the I7 is more suitable for me.
52V is good, but not too much better than the 48V of the vitilan. The good thing is that these bikes are generic frames and you can fit higher voltage controllers, batteries and even 1000w+ motors in them if you so desire to make a better or faster bike for yourself. You can buy the parts and a shop can do the work for you.
Hi im looking at fat tyre bags to buy. Your local to me. I've seen u up sandy Lane lol. Which bike u think is best for the moneys. Do u have Facebook page. So I could message u at all. Ste
@@stephenbannister7021 mate. I have 200 inbox messages on my Facebook page I’ve never answered. It’s just a thief of my time. Best for the money for me is the Engwe Engine Pro 2.0, if you’re lazy the original Engwe Engine Pro. I’ve don’t reviews of both and if you buy using the link in my comments section you get a good discount.
@@stephenbannister7021 got my Instagram link in description. Also a link to any bikes I'm selling on FB marketplace. There will be fat tyre bikes in future. This one is a great deal but already sold it.
Get the Vitilan i7 Pro 2.0 here (affiliate links): goaff.pro/dgjfct Use code EVRC100 to save £100 (if you use their £100 code instead of mine they refuse to pay me any commission. More info in the description and in my community post www.youtube.com/@e-VRC/community).
Good evening. Just to let you know I have bought a I7 Pro3 using your discount code EVRC100 and got £100 off, Total price £1149.00. This did work, I will forward the invoice number to you if you have any problems. We spoke a couple of days ago on Facebook market and you advised me what to get as I am disabled, and needed your advice. Many thanks for your help. Ps do you know if you can fit BMX handle bars to this? Cheers
@@e-VRC Sorry to put a dampener on this, but it's cheap Chinese generic e-bikes like this that are prolific on Alibaba etc. Rebadged, they all come from the same factory. The quality of the metal isn't great, and should you have any issues you'll be looking at lengthy timescales and possibly high costs. I'm speaking from experience here.
@@irpnet but there are no alternatives with the same cool aggresive look from western trusted companies. if so please link here and be sure its not a product made in china after all that would defeat the purpose
@@mhmh9302 Thats part of the problem. There are a handful of Western companies making ebikes, but a majority shilled on YT are cheap Chinese ones that all look the same and are shilled as the "best". I have the exact same design bike, a weld broke and they accused me of doing jumps (I'm 55!) they then wanted 300GBP to replace the frame and that took 2 months for me to receive. Now I'm expected to rebuiild it myself!!!!! I now have a Cruz 73 (the 750 Watt version), made by a UK company with solid steel and proper welds. I've done over 800 miles on it so far and no issues at all.
Hmmm, i wonder how durable it is, especially with the lack of the triangular brace from the seat post tube to the top tube , like the Engwe EP/Pros? I have seen some frames fail spectacularly on bikes without it, what are your thoughts on this, does this Vit seem like itll last? This one does look much better than the Engine Pros.... Congrats on the 10K subs too, well deserved :-)
Hi there love your videos,i have a question you might be able to help me,i have a two year old engine pro the battery is knackerd engwe batyerys are so expensiveand there never in stock can i fit a similar battery willit fit,if so can you recomend
Sorry really random question. What brand is the battery operated pump you used to add air to the suspension? It looked easy to operate and could be carried around easily too! Sad question I know, but it looked just the job!! Ps good video review, really enjoyable.
Hey mate! Thank you so much for all your amazing reviews! I've literally been glued to your channel for the past week or two, trying to decide on my first purchase. I'm looking for a folding bike with a good range (ideally a solid 100km on low level pas), also with some good torque and power (unlockable etc), around the 1 grand price mark (give or take) and preferably pretty easy to move about when folded (and to sling in the back of the car). I've been looking at this bike, the pivy z20 max, the pivy z20 plus 1000, the ado airs, engwes! I'm really finding it hard to make a decision. I'm in my 40's, 6ft but a svelt 64kg, which presumably might help with range? If you can offer any advice, it would be much appreciated! What would you go for?
@@e-VRCSorry for hogging the questions, but can you confirm what reliable top speed the PVY Z20 Max does? Watched your review and a few others, the numbers seem to diff, but you're the most trusted source tbh
I'd love this one but worried about the UK laws! What would you say the best 'legal' ebike is? Still the z20 plus? Hills are a big thing got my commute and I'm 6ft so size can be a thing. This and the Lankelesi look great but potentially more noticeable as not legal with motor size.
I am a new subscriber to your channel and find your video very interesting. I am 6"4 and am looking to spend £500 on a Ebike can you recommend any for me. I am finding it hard On what one to choose.
Hi,you have to get the E-Bike that suits you for how and where you are going to ride it,based on your budget. Two important things are the E-Bike motor Nm and battery Wh,and then there's laws,and risks. Start with what type of frame/style of E-Bike you would need,and what you want the frame to have,like built in back suspension,carry handle,battery hidden inside the frame,on top of it,step through,or over,back carry wrack with wired in back brake light and indicators on it,or not etc. Take a look through this channels videos to see different frames and styles. Not all new versions of E-Bikes are better,my new 2nd version E-Bike,I got a few months ago has a well known branded Bafang motor,the new latest 3rd version doesn't. Some older versions of E-Bikes have a slightly less battery Wh/distance,if a few more miles per charge doesn't matter to you,they will be cheaper. Good luck finding the E-bike that is right for you,you're going to need it lol, 👍
@@EBR-UK Yes thanks I saw this last week regarding the BMX bars and fittings. Also the squishy seat offer has disappeared so I guess they have sold a few. Nice bike it's only the key underneath I don't like but it's not a big deal.
@@1chickenpig I've just ordered the I7 and didn't get the squishy saddle,I got mirrors. The E-Bike I have now has the key under the frame,its never fallen out or got bent or stuck. For some reason it's easier for me to put the key in from the right hand pedal side of my E-bike.😕
Hi I got the i7 PRO 2 after watching this video,it will get you up steep hills that 500w E-Bikes can't manage and I go down hills using no battery (PAS 0) at around 25-30Mph. Battery distance seems good so far, '24.4 miles today (342 total so far) two bars on the display used. Mainly PAS-3/4 on cycle lanes using throttle,too humid to pedal.' '32.1 miles today (374 total so far) three bars on the display used. Mainly PAS-4 on cycle lanes/across fields/dry mud paths.' I wanted an E-Bike that would get me up very steep hills and have good battery distance,If I wasn't happy with my i7 PRO 2 at doing so (so far) I would post and say so. Max speed so far has been-33.7 Mph.
please review this Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 52V 1200W(PEAK) 75Nm High Torque Folding Fat Tire E-bike. the Vitilan looks like a rip off of the Engwe engine pro 2.0, but the vitilan looks cheaper looking imho.
Which ebike i should buy for starting deliveries? Uber eats in London city? Budget is tight at £1000 Road legal, long range, anti theft and comfortable.... Please suggest me the best one
If you want road legal then a second hand Eskuta sx250. Alarm and immobilizer - mega comfy, good range and legal. Only drawback is you can't pedal it over 16mph.
There's a v7 3.0 version now apart from the display wonder if its an upgrade. The motor is same spec but different brand wonder if its as good as 2.0 motor.
For me too heavy, and unlocking key location is a bit weird /underneath frame - In wet weather - this will be a problem after while. Battery removal is difficult as well. Propably must be removed to charge... Easy way to drop battery when wrestling with foldable 40kg unstable bike... Not well designed. So, I'm awaiting for review new engine pro.
Every single negative you've mentioned is exactly the same for this type of bike. The engine pro 2.0 will be exactly the same. However you can charge the battery in the bike I'm sure I said I probably wouldn't remove it as it's cumbersome. My very first ebike was this design too, never had a problem with the key being underneath apart from it can be hard to see it to get the key in and the external wiring can get in the way. But yeah I think I said watch out for the battery as it can slide out. It's definitely heavy - not good if you need to take it up stairs.
@@e-VRC Thanks for info. For me Cyrusher Kommoda is a choice for 20" fat tyre bike. I know - it is not foldable. But still waiting for Engine Pro review.
I really like the look of the Lankeleisi x3000 plus up, with the bmx handle bar and suspension, but I don't know how it performs, comparing with other models as this one... anyone had tested one? Thanks
Whoa! 103lb bike for 28mph?? That bike is a PIG! Have you tried the 59 lb/28mph Portola? Its half the weight man! Even the eCells 5 Star is 96lb/38mph. This bike is made of lead.
Hi,Gross weight of the ViTiLAN-I7 PRO 2 is 31Kg/4.88 Stone/68.3lb. Net weight of the E-Bike will be 31Kg minus the box and packaging weight. If it was any lighter,it would need wings using PAS-5.
I don't have the engine 1.0 any more but I'm 90% sure they were the same shape batteries. Both being 48v they should both work but only if the connections match up.
Exchanging the Bafang motor for an unknown "more efficient" brand is cost-cutting on their behalf and not an upgrade for the owner unless the change of motor brings a torque sensor instead of a cadence sensor. Peak power, range and torque specs quoted for 3.0 are the same as 2.0 so where's the efficiency 🤷
@@e-VRC- Does this have a certificate of conformity? Can the throttle be disabled or removed without screwing up the controller? If the answer is 'yes' to both these queries, then this could be a road legal e-bike in Ireland, at least. It would be classed as a lower end e-moped requiring registration, motor tax and for a motorcycle helmet to be worn. I suspect the i7 can be limited to 25kph so that's covered. You could ride it in cycle lanes.
I think that maybe the brands purchase the body or maybe the design then add their own choice of components (which of course are made by other brands) then add their own paint job. It is generic however there are subtle differences when looking at a lot of these folding fat tyre bikes. Like there's a few different 'set styles'.
Intel processor 😂😂 on the subject of PCs in comparison AMD is smashing it with there apu/ gaming portables and intels first handheld gaming PC was a disaster 😂
@@e-VRC 😂 had the steam deck last year thought was way underpowered and they oversold it sold the deck and got the Ally with it and it Way better imo 🏆👊
Fair enough. I think the only good reason for them folding is for battery access. They do save a bit of space when stored but of course a hinge most likely adds a weak point. I rarely fold these tbh.
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My husband and I both have this bike, we love them!
Is the motor 250 or 750, the website says 750?
@@malnuman1836it’s a 750w motor and the peak output on this bike with a full charge is around 1360w. Hence why it’s still one of the best single motor bikes for hill climbing.
I was thinking about buying it but weight is the main reason I won't
Great reviews ! I’m 63 and getting back into cycling, very helpful, keep them coming 👍🏻
@@markwoodcock01 cheers, thanks for watching. Have fun out there 👍
Thanks for the great review, just ordered one. I did use your code rather than their own code for the discount, so cheers for that. Looking forward to getting out on it. All the best.
Thanks so much. Can I ask was it recently or a while back?
@@e-VRC Last week, awaiting delivery this friday. All the best Mally
@@mally125 nice one 👍
Thank for the review I’ve just bought one and got my £50 off the price keep it coming g😊😊😊😊😊🎉
@@lesliebrown3321 nice one. Enjoy 👍👍
Was just about to pop for the PVY But got this one with your £50 discount. £1,199.00. 👌
Nice one... enjoy! 🤟🤟
Your video convinced me. I am unathletic and not a lightweight, live in an area with many long and steep hills, so unfortunately the great Fafrees were ruled out for me, as they are all quite weakly motorized.
So I'm really thrilled with the power and torque of the i7 pro v2!
@@SatiriCus-Doc-GermaniCus nice. Enjoy powering up hills 👍
This looks to be a very nice Fat Tyre E-Bike at a very attractive price.
I have had a bike very similar to this for around 4 years now, it's a good bike with one or two negatives. I like to ride along canal tow paths, and on tow paths which have ruts made in them made by many bikes traveling along them. The ruts tend to act like tram lines, and the small wheels get stuck in the ruts and I have been thrown off the bike on more than one occasion. I have never had this happen with my bike with 26 inch fat tyres. I have also had the battery lock get jammed up with grit from mud being thrown up from the front wheel, and then had to remove the lock from the battery and clean it out.
Yeah fat tyres are great for not tram lining.
I am subscribed to an American who has this bike and he has done 2000 miles on his. He thinks it's a great bike. I wanted this bike too but vitilan told me that I couldn't get it because I lived in the uk. I have the big game bikes impala alpha plus now 250 watt.
@@lizvickers7156 it seems it's now available here 👍
They gotta bring to the UK then. Engwe has the fat bike market covered in the UK & EU
@@e-VRCThat's about right then 😅 Cheers for that.
Which is faster between the vitilan and engwe pro upgrade(do you need to ghost pedal the engwe)
The mark on the front fork is from the fork under load scratching the bolt holding the mudguard and light. Should of been picked up in manufacturing/design easy fix take out bolt grind down bolt a mm or so
That bikes haunted. 😂 Creeeeeeek. 😢
When I reviewed the Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 a few weeks ago I was massively surprised by the torque and torque sensor. It’s currently my favourite e-bike, you’ll see what I mean when you review it.
hahaha.... Yeah I'm looking forward to the 2.0 however, I'm one of the very few people that prefer cadence to torque apart from when pulling away.
@@e-VRC have have both the 1.0 and 2.0 here and there’s not a lot in it. My second ever e-bike was the 1.0 and even though I had issues with it, it’s still to this day a great bike. Roll on 2 years, Engwe have updated the frame on both bikes, and thrown a 52v battery into that 2.0 frame, the same 23amp controller as the 1.0 and for some unknown reason it’s made the bike more nimble … it’s feels more like the X.
Anyway, you’ll see. You’re going to struggle to find real fault with it. My biggest issue was the seat, it’s not the most comfortable.
@@ModProjects4306 yeah I was a big fan of the 1.0 and the direct drive motor was interesting with the regen. I'm guessing they scrapped it for the 2.0. I never got round to trying the X sadly.
@@e-VRC this can be a very good comparison, many people decide between engwe engine pro 2.0 and vilian i7 pro 2.0
@@matejsmugala4640 yea, I'm trying to decide between the Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 and the Vitilan i7 Pro 3.0 now. Seems Vitilan switched to a no-name brand motor instead of having Bafang.
How does it compare with PVY Z20 PLUS 1000? Can you make a comparison video? I believe many people would like to see this.😀
I am trying to decide between the Vitilan I7 Pro 3 and the Engwe Engine Pro 2.
Does the cadence sensor in the vitilan I7 pro cause the bike to speed off dangerously? Compared to the seemingly more controlled torque sensor of the Engine Pro?
Also, the throttle only goes to 20 mph on the Engwe Engine Pro. Is it a little bit slow?
I think I am veering towards the I7 pro 3, but im just interested to know if anyone could give me their experiences on either of these bikes.
Hi,welcome to the nightmare of deciding which Fat tyre E-Bike to get lol.
ViTiLAN-i7 Pro 2
48V 20Ah 960Wh battery.
80 Nm 750w Bafang motor.
180mm Hydraulic Disc Brakes.
18 Months Warranty.
Engwe Engine Pro 2.0,
52V 16Ah 832Wh battery
75 Nm Unknown motor.
160mm Hydraulic Disc Brakes
12 Months Warranty.
The ViTiLAN-i7 Pro 3 does not have a Bafang motor,and the display is different.
The acceleration is instant and fast,but the default for PAS 2 is only 11Mph,and the180mm hydraulic disc brakes are very good.
I go into 0 (No power) when my i7 Pro 2 is stationary,then in 2 to get started,then PAS 3 that gives me around 18Mph-21Mph.
PAS 4 and 5 (for me) are more like Sport and Turbo modes,I use them for a mad ten minutes across country or,short bursts to get up very steep hills.
Fastest I've been so far is 33.7Mph,and furthest is 37 Miles with 2 bars out of 5 left on the display.
My ViTiLAN came with some minor issues that took me a few weeks of riding to fix,apart from the display,that I can't see in sunlight.
I haven't owned an Engwe Engine Pro 2.0,or any Engwe E-Bike.
@EBR-UK Thanks for the reply. It's proving to be a much tougher sescision than I thought....1st world problems ehh.😄
I am a little concerned the new motor on the pro 3 won't be as good as the Bafang. The pro 2 seems to be sold out in Ireland.
I am not seeing any new reviews for this newer version. I wonder if it still has the same torque settings and overall capability.
The Engwe Engine Pro seems to be the steady option, albeit a little safe.
For me, the difference that made me choose the PVY z20 Plus 1000 was the frame design. In my opinion (not expert) the PVY frame which is the same as a Mate X, has a better rear suspension design. The rear shock that PVY ships, is actually bad, but if you upgrade it I'm expecting that you will be with a more reliable bike than the Engwe's Engine Pro style frame.
What is your opinion on this? Which frame design do you prefer?
I like the look of the i7 / engine pro one more but they feel the same really. I feel like your weight directly compresses the Pvy suspension whereas it indirectly presses the engine/i7 suspension via the hinge thing. But in practise they feel the same.
I watched lot of videos, mostly yours, did a lot of research and bought this bike before few days... I gues that I made right decision :P
Nice. I've been very impressed with it. Enjoy! 🤟👍
Can’t get through to customer service on message thing very interested in buying one from uk site but no reply worries me 😢
Hi can you review the U7? :)
Great video but lack of torque sensor rules it out for me.
Cheers. Apart from torque sensors being much faster at kicking in I'm not a massive fan. They're definitely better but I quite like a cadence for ghost pedalling at full power. I'm lazy I guess 😅
Hi Pro E-Bike Tester 👏👍👍👍😀
i have watched several videos of ebikes that have 20 x 4" fat tire wheels and it looks like it bounces up and down a lot!?
My question is, are these 20 x 4" fat tire wheels more prone to this phenomenon - more than let's say 26 x 3" ?
Yes - the tyres are bouncy - but more comfy as a result...
Haven’t noticed this, have noticed the incredible stability and confidence fat tyres give. I wouldn’t go back to normal thickness bike tyres. Can ride through a foot of water like it’s absolutely nothing I love it.
Very good bike .just got the 3.0 version. Amazing full colour screen controller with Bluetooth to connect to your phone too 👍
Is the motor still bafang? Isn’t specified on the website
@@sian994official3 Did you find out? I'm deciding between the two and there really isn't much between them.
So what are the difference between the two?
@@sian994official3 No - if you look on the website - the 2.0 is Baf' - the 3.0 isn't - but the price is the same. I don't get it?
@@jamieniche Hi,my iPro 2 has a 'Bafang motor' and 'LED Colour Display',the iPro 3 has a 'more economical motor brand',and 'Intelligent Colour Display'.
I was going to purchase the Engwe engine pro 2.0 until i just saw this video. For £300 less it’s going to be hard to not pick this bike over the engine pro
Engine pro 2.0 cannot do full speed of 28mph in throttle only. You need to peddle to reach max speed. This is why I avoided it. Too restrictive for freedom-minded people.
@@peternicholas3858 yes this is one of the reasons i am drawn to this i7 pro, its also cheaper, has a 20ah samsung battery, comes with free mirrors, phone holder & lock. The things i am not sure about though is the customer service/warranty & this being cadence sensor compared to the engine torque sensor.
@@ledouu cadence sensor is the best IF it is smooth and doesn't jerk the bike when it activates and deactivates, which is the case with the vitilan. It helps you use the ebike like it's meant to be, with the least peddling effort to ride. Torque sensor does require effort from you, which is a mix between a regular bike and ebike. I prefer 100% ebike riding with a good quality cadence sensor like vitilan has in their models.
@@peternicholas3858 appreciate the feedback, do you own one of these? Whats the customer service like?
@@ledouu I have the vitilan I7 and it's great. But I have no clue what customer service is like as I didn't need any assistance. The way I see it.... if I ever need service out of warranty, I can either fix it myself as parts are standard and available online. Or I can take it to a shop. After 5 years or so? I'd probably like to get whatever is newer and faster.
Good review, thanks! one thing to note though, no matter how good it is, its still not UK road legal as doesnt have "250W" stamped on the motor, so for me the better bikes are the Engwe L20 or the PVY Z20 Plus 1000 for UK road use, both stamped 250W even though has larger motors and can be restricted to 15.5mph and switch off throttle.
You think what the government and police and judges all go by the book ? Legal illegal. Who cares
@@frankgallagher7812not all of us have disposable income to throw £1100 away if it gets confiscated plus the points on license lol. So yeh. People care. It’s what made me get rid of my Electric Unicycles.
tbf the motor isn't visible at all on this due to the mag wheels encasing it. I'm not sure which setting adjusts the speed- I'm going to look into that. They told me throttle can't be switched off but of course it's easily disconnected.
@@bigup7777 Oh I definitely care. I know very few people that will be ok with losing a £1100 bike or getting points. I get really paranoid on moped style ebikes and escooters. But anything that looks like a bike I'm ok with as long as I'm being sensible. Unicycles and esk8s though I never worry. I just don't feel they're targeted if you know what I mean. I've been past loads of police on both.
Was all set to get the engwe engine pro 2.0 then I saw this. Now I m not sure!
Same
Engine pro 2.0 cannot do full speed of 28mph in throttle only. You need to peddle to reach max speed. This is why I avoided it. Too restrictive for freedom-minded people.
Hi,I'm also looking at the Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 and ViTiLAN-I7 PRO 2 and will probably go for the I7 because it has the most battery Wh for distance and a few more Nm.
Engwe Engine Pro 2.0
52V-16Ah- 832Wh battery
75 Nm 750w Unknown motor.
160mm Hydraulic Disc Brakes
12 Months Warranty
ViTiLAN-I7 PRO 2
48V-20Ah-960Wh battery.
80 Nm Bafang motor.
180mm Hydraulic Disc Brakes.
18 Months Warranty
I7 is also cheaper,has bigger brake disks,a longer warranty and they sell spare parts like controllers on their web site as well.
I don't see anything wrong with the Engwe Engine Pro 2.0 and it looks like a great E-Bike,its just that the I7 is more suitable for me.
52V is good, but not too much better than the 48V of the vitilan. The good thing is that these bikes are generic frames and you can fit higher voltage controllers, batteries and even 1000w+ motors in them if you so desire to make a better or faster bike for yourself. You can buy the parts and a shop can do the work for you.
@@EBR-UK th-cam.com/video/q4SaqNDelCI/w-d-xo.html
Would have liked to see this in comparison against the Engwe Engine X.
Your videos get better all the time! 👍 Nice balance of tech and cheerful good humour. 👍 Flawless presentation. 👍 Your knees are still bent too much. 😉
Cheers, glad you enjoy them. I like to ride like a roadman 😂😂😅
@@e-VRC 😂😂😂
Hi im looking at fat tyre bags to buy. Your local to me. I've seen u up sandy Lane lol. Which bike u think is best for the moneys. Do u have Facebook page. So I could message u at all. Ste
@@stephenbannister7021 mate. I have 200 inbox messages on my Facebook page I’ve never answered. It’s just a thief of my time. Best for the money for me is the Engwe Engine Pro 2.0, if you’re lazy the original Engwe Engine Pro. I’ve don’t reviews of both and if you buy using the link in my comments section you get a good discount.
@@stephenbannister7021 got my Instagram link in description. Also a link to any bikes I'm selling on FB marketplace. There will be fat tyre bikes in future. This one is a great deal but already sold it.
Get the Vitilan i7 Pro 2.0 here (affiliate links):
goaff.pro/dgjfct
Use code EVRC100 to save £100 (if you use their £100 code instead of mine they refuse to pay me any commission. More info in the description and in my community post www.youtube.com/@e-VRC/community).
Good evening. Just to let you know I have bought a I7 Pro3 using your discount code EVRC100 and got £100 off, Total price £1149.00. This did work, I will forward the invoice number to you if you have any problems. We spoke a couple of days ago on Facebook market and you advised me what to get as I am disabled, and needed your advice. Many thanks for your help. Ps do you know if you can fit BMX handle bars to this? Cheers
I am not really into folding ebikes, but wow, that appears to be a very good bike for a very low price.
Agreed
😄thanks for your liking
@@e-VRC Sorry to put a dampener on this, but it's cheap Chinese generic e-bikes like this that are prolific on Alibaba etc. Rebadged, they all come from the same factory. The quality of the metal isn't great, and should you have any issues you'll be looking at lengthy timescales and possibly high costs. I'm speaking from experience here.
@@irpnet but there are no alternatives with the same cool aggresive look from western trusted companies. if so please link here and be sure its not a product made in china after all that would defeat the purpose
@@mhmh9302 Thats part of the problem. There are a handful of Western companies making ebikes, but a majority shilled on YT are cheap Chinese ones that all look the same and are shilled as the "best". I have the exact same design bike, a weld broke and they accused me of doing jumps (I'm 55!) they then wanted 300GBP to replace the frame and that took 2 months for me to receive. Now I'm expected to rebuiild it myself!!!!!
I now have a Cruz 73 (the 750 Watt version), made by a UK company with solid steel and proper welds. I've done over 800 miles on it so far and no issues at all.
Hmmm, i wonder how durable it is, especially with the lack of the triangular brace from the seat post tube to the top tube , like the Engwe EP/Pros? I have seen some frames fail spectacularly on bikes without it, what are your thoughts on this, does this Vit seem like itll last? This one does look much better than the Engine Pros.... Congrats on the 10K subs too, well deserved :-)
Thanks very much! 🙏🏽 I did notice the lack of extra cross piece. I wonder how much it helps. It feels fine but I guess time will tell.
wondering does it matter since it has dual suspension?
Your reviews are very useful and entertaining 👌🙂
I need two bikes. What would you choose?
T7pro & i7pro from Vitilan
or
X24 & X20 from Engwe
@@DFD1 I haven't tried the x20 or t7 pro. The i7 pro is a stronger bike than the x24 though.
Glad you enjoy them 👍
@@e-VRC Thanks! How about your overall experience with Vitilan and Engwe?
Hi there love your videos,i have a question you might be able to help me,i have a two year old engine pro the battery is knackerd engwe batyerys are so expensiveand there never in stock can i fit a similar battery willit fit,if so can you recomend
Sorry really random question. What brand is the battery operated pump you used to add air to the suspension? It looked easy to operate and could be carried around easily too! Sad question I know, but it looked just the job!! Ps good video review, really enjoyable.
Thanks for watching. The pump is the flextail mini. I use it more in my 'gadgets video's there's a link to it in the description
I like the eyewear you had on, are those riding glasses? Please share the link you can.
@@OneAndOnlyMe they're just my sunglasses. The brand is Quay.
Great video as usual.
May I ask if you're getting your hands on the Engwe L20 2.0 ? - wonder how it'd stack against this bike.
I haven't seen it yet. But hopefully 🤞
I'd love it if you'd please check if this larger battery fits in the Engwe Engine Pro 2 frame as they look near identical.
I think it may well be the same form factor. The engine pro 2 hasn't arrived yet so I can't check to make sure.
Hey mate! Thank you so much for all your amazing reviews! I've literally been glued to your channel for the past week or two, trying to decide on my first purchase. I'm looking for a folding bike with a good range (ideally a solid 100km on low level pas), also with some good torque and power (unlockable etc), around the 1 grand price mark (give or take) and preferably pretty easy to move about when folded (and to sling in the back of the car). I've been looking at this bike, the pivy z20 max, the pivy z20 plus 1000, the ado airs, engwes! I'm really finding it hard to make a decision. I'm in my 40's, 6ft but a svelt 64kg, which presumably might help with range? If you can offer any advice, it would be much appreciated! What would you go for?
Probably the max for great range and light-ish for carrying.
@@e-VRCSorry for hogging the questions, but can you confirm what reliable top speed the PVY Z20 Max does? Watched your review and a few others, the numbers seem to diff, but you're the most trusted source tbh
I'd love this one but worried about the UK laws! What would you say the best 'legal' ebike is? Still the z20 plus? Hills are a big thing got my commute and I'm 6ft so size can be a thing. This and the Lankelesi look great but potentially more noticeable as not legal with motor size.
No need to worry about the laws, I’ve never been bothered once by anybody. And I’ve done thousands of miles on bikes that go a lot quicker than 15.
I am a new subscriber to your channel and find your video very interesting.
I am 6"4 and am looking to spend £500 on a Ebike can you recommend any for me.
I am finding it hard On what one to choose.
Hi,you have to get the E-Bike that suits you for how and where you are going to ride it,based on your budget.
Two important things are the E-Bike motor Nm and battery Wh,and then there's laws,and risks.
Start with what type of frame/style of E-Bike you would need,and what you want the frame to have,like built in back suspension,carry handle,battery hidden inside the frame,on top of it,step through,or over,back carry wrack with wired in back brake light and indicators on it,or not etc.
Take a look through this channels videos to see different frames and styles.
Not all new versions of E-Bikes are better,my new 2nd version E-Bike,I got a few months ago has a well known branded Bafang motor,the new latest 3rd version doesn't.
Some older versions of E-Bikes have a slightly less battery Wh/distance,if a few more miles per charge doesn't matter to you,they will be cheaper.
Good luck finding the E-bike that is right for you,you're going to need it lol, 👍
Nice bike lots i like about it &, fast up Sandy Lane.
As you say an option to change it to bmx stlye bars would have been nice.
Yeah I think BMX bars look great on these. And folding ones are a bit narrow.
Hi,BMX bars for the I7 are on their web site at £99.
@@EBR-UK Yes thanks I saw this last week regarding the BMX bars and fittings. Also the squishy seat offer has disappeared so I guess they have sold a few. Nice bike it's only the key underneath I don't like but it's not a big deal.
@@1chickenpig I've just ordered the I7 and didn't get the squishy saddle,I got mirrors.
The E-Bike I have now has the key under the frame,its never fallen out or got bent or stuck.
For some reason it's easier for me to put the key in from the right hand pedal side of my E-bike.😕
@@EBR-UK I think it's an excellent bike and one I'd like to get as well. When it arrives have fun on it and stay safe 👍
Overall, If you could only have one would you go for the i7 pro or the engwe l20 - (live in a hilly area but 6 mile round trip. Thanks. )
Probably i7 in a hilly area since it's more powerful.
I live in Hastings UK where there’s loads of steep hills so what folding e-bike would you recommend please? Thanks!
This one I guess 👍
Hi I got the i7 PRO 2 after watching this video,it will get you up steep hills that 500w E-Bikes can't manage and I go down hills using no battery (PAS 0) at around 25-30Mph.
Battery distance seems good so far,
'24.4 miles today (342 total so far) two bars on the display used.
Mainly PAS-3/4 on cycle lanes using throttle,too humid to pedal.'
'32.1 miles today (374 total so far) three bars on the display used.
Mainly PAS-4 on cycle lanes/across fields/dry mud paths.'
I wanted an E-Bike that would get me up very steep hills and have good battery distance,If I wasn't happy with my i7 PRO 2 at doing so (so far) I would post and say so.
Max speed so far has been-33.7 Mph.
Is there an aftermarket front light upgrade ? How about a flashing taillight that can be easily added?
*Hefty Tyres!*
🤟🏽⚡️🤙🏽⚡️🤟🏽
Powaahh!!
Nice-lookin n all 👌🏽
Would love BMX handlebars too, agreed
🤘🤘 yeah all of these bikes look better with bmx handlebars.
please review this Engwe Engine Pro 2.0
52V 1200W(PEAK) 75Nm High Torque Folding Fat Tire E-bike. the Vitilan looks like a rip off of the Engwe engine pro 2.0, but the vitilan looks cheaper looking imho.
It arrived today so hopefully next week 👍
Hi, which way around are the brake levers? I uave seen that they are front brake on the left? Cheers
Hi,the brakes are foreign,right lever is back,left is the front.
Which ebike i should buy for starting deliveries? Uber eats in London city? Budget is tight at £1000
Road legal, long range, anti theft and comfortable....
Please suggest me the best one
If you want road legal then a second hand Eskuta sx250. Alarm and immobilizer - mega comfy, good range and legal. Only drawback is you can't pedal it over 16mph.
@@e-VRC appreciate it. I'll take the sx250 at consideration but what if I wanna buy new? I have a 100pound wiggle room
@@gamingmisthios how about engwe engine x?
@e-VRC does the pedal have good resistance at 20 mph?...
3 months on, do you still consider the i7 Pro the best folding Ebike on the UK market?
4 months on and I can’t find anything better than this for the current price of 1149.
There's a v7 3.0 version now apart from the display wonder if its an upgrade. The motor is same spec but different brand wonder if its as good as 2.0 motor.
Definitely not, if it was they'd tell you what it is instead of some vague "more economical brand" bs
@@LJ2K2025more economical on their wallets is probably what they meant, yet they charge you the same price between the 2.0 and the 3.0
The new motor is from Eiwol, Vitilan told me it's 70 to 80nm of torque.
I wonder how it compares to the Bafang motor used in the i7 2.0
Will this bike fit in the back of a Subaru forester? Thanks ?
For me too heavy, and unlocking key location is a bit weird /underneath frame - In wet weather - this will be a problem after while.
Battery removal is difficult as well. Propably must be removed to charge... Easy way to drop battery when wrestling with foldable 40kg unstable bike...
Not well designed.
So, I'm awaiting for review new engine pro.
Every single negative you've mentioned is exactly the same for this type of bike. The engine pro 2.0 will be exactly the same. However you can charge the battery in the bike I'm sure I said I probably wouldn't remove it as it's cumbersome. My very first ebike was this design too, never had a problem with the key being underneath apart from it can be hard to see it to get the key in and the external wiring can get in the way. But yeah I think I said watch out for the battery as it can slide out. It's definitely heavy - not good if you need to take it up stairs.
@@e-VRC Thanks for info.
For me Cyrusher Kommoda is a choice for 20" fat tyre bike. I know - it is not foldable.
But still waiting for Engine Pro review.
@@stanley3647 nice. I have the Cyrusher Ovia here still in the box. Looks very similar to the Kommoda
But is there a way to go faster than 28mph…?
yes buy another bike
I really like the look of the Lankeleisi x3000 plus up, with the bmx handle bar and suspension, but I don't know how it performs, comparing with other models as this one... anyone had tested one?
Thanks
@@nunogomes3198 the plus is like the max with a single motor, right?
@@e-VRC, yes... with a 1000w rear hub engine... maybe it performs as the 3000 Max with only one engine...
Best folding bike of 2024 that’s not fat tired? Anyone? For putting into back of a vehicle easily
Does the display show battery voltage in volts? Thanks.
Whoa! 103lb bike for 28mph?? That bike is a PIG! Have you tried the 59 lb/28mph Portola? Its half the weight man! Even the eCells 5 Star is 96lb/38mph. This bike is made of lead.
Hi,Gross weight of the ViTiLAN-I7 PRO 2 is 31Kg/4.88 Stone/68.3lb.
Net weight of the E-Bike will be 31Kg minus the box and packaging weight.
If it was any lighter,it would need wings using PAS-5.
@@EBR-UK 68 lbs is a lot better. Misunderstood the original description.
So it's an Engwe engine pro 2.0?
Very similar it seems but with subtle differences.
my iscooter ix5 can do that hill has a 500w motor peak power 1200w i paid 450 pounds 2 and a half years ago
Which one do you recommend betwin the Vitilan i7 pro / PVY Z20 plus 1000w / Engwe Engine Pro 2.0?
Engine pro 2.0.
Mine puts out 1400 watts in sport mode.
Latest video talks about all 3 👍
@HitchHikersBlues yeah but the throttle doesn't go beyond 20mph, silly really.
? 55kph.
Does the Vitilan i7 20ah battery fit into the pvy x20 plus 1000?
Was wondering the same thing
So can you ride this bike in London streets and cyclists lane?
is the LANKELEISI X3000 Max 2x1000w legal for use in the EU?
No and it's hard to pretend it's 250w due to the 2 motors.
What is the post purchase help like ?
@@Electriclentilman I haven't heard many reports but this was missing a red cap on one side of the suspension and it arrived in 3 days.
i dont have a hatchback do you think it will fit in the boot or through the side door?😅
Ooh... It's pretty big. Maybe but it would be very close and I wouldn't want to be doing it regularly
Trust me - they weigh a ton - and it's like fighting with a drunk octopus.
Will a vitalan battery fit my mark 1 48v engwe pro many thanks
I don't have the engine 1.0 any more but I'm 90% sure they were the same shape batteries. Both being 48v they should both work but only if the connections match up.
Outdatet already, they just released the 3.0
Exchanging the Bafang motor for an unknown "more efficient" brand is cost-cutting on their behalf and not an upgrade for the owner unless the change of motor brings a torque sensor instead of a cadence sensor. Peak power, range and torque specs quoted for 3.0 are the same as 2.0 so where's the efficiency 🤷
@@altern8tivedid they updated the screen downgrading the motor?
Been wondering if it's an improvement or a downgrade
Does this i7 pro have re gen?
No
The video starts at 0:00, thank me later :)
Is it road legal??
Not in the EU
@@e-VRC- Does this have a certificate of conformity? Can the throttle be disabled or removed without screwing up the controller?
If the answer is 'yes' to both these queries, then this could be a road legal e-bike in Ireland, at least. It would be classed as a lower end e-moped requiring registration, motor tax and for a motorcycle helmet to be worn. I suspect the i7 can be limited to 25kph so that's covered. You could ride it in cycle lanes.
Still prefer the x3000 max above all these🤙👊
@@Rickster316 oh yeah absolutely the x3000 is the best but nearly a grand more.
@@e-VRC just with the comparison with foldable fat tyres! Appreciate cost difference sets it apart 🤙👊
This one needs some WD40 😂
😂😂😂😂😅
The design looks generic I wonder who is really the manufacturer of this bike? Is it rebranded?
I think that maybe the brands purchase the body or maybe the design then add their own choice of components (which of course are made by other brands) then add their own paint job. It is generic however there are subtle differences when looking at a lot of these folding fat tyre bikes. Like there's a few different 'set styles'.
This bike weights 100 lbs
Do they have a uk telephone number? Cheers.
silicone spray..
It's a small bike.
Intel processor 😂😂 on the subject of PCs in comparison AMD is smashing it with there apu/ gaming portables and intels first handheld gaming PC was a disaster 😂
haha yeah I have the Rog Ally and Steam Deck, they're fantastic.
@@e-VRC 😂 had the steam deck last year thought was way underpowered and they oversold it sold the deck and got the Ally with it and it Way better imo 🏆👊
I really don't like folding ebikes.
Fair enough. I think the only good reason for them folding is for battery access. They do save a bit of space when stored but of course a hinge most likely adds a weak point. I rarely fold these tbh.
Do you have a email?
@@mkk1776 yeah on the channel page or in the description
Hi love this bike. Im near to sandy lane. Do u have a facebook page. Coupd i pm u
You can message via IG or email if you want. I no longer have the bike though.
my iscooter ix5 can do that hill has a 500w motor peak power 1200w i paid 450 pounds 2 and a half years ago
my iscooter ix5 can do that hill has a 500w motor peak power 1200w i paid 450 pounds 2 and a half years ago
my iscooter ix5 can do that hill has a 500w motor peak power 1200w i paid 450 pounds 2 and a half years ago