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The RTX 3090 is here... Here we go again...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2020
- Let's just say that the RTX 3090 is even more of a monster than I expected... oh and #RIPGN
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Just to add to something at 12:49 that I forgot to touch on - The reason the RTX 3080 is so slow is because Octane will allow for OOC (out of core) rendering. This means that whatever doesnt fit in the GPUs frame buffer will use system RAM. GPU using system ram is extremely slow vs using the VRAM. ITs a representation also in what happens in gaming if you have a gaming scene that uses more VRAM than what is available on your card... this is also why the discussion on whether or not 6/8GB of VRAM is enough these days... Just thought I would clarify.
Wow I'm early!
K
Get off my lawn.
Anyone gonna talk about how he commented that 8 hours ago but the video has been out for a few minutes 🤣
*drools* i have to run on integrated, these videos are just tech porn for me!
I fall in under the third category: The ones who wants to go moose clubbing with a graphics card.
I soooooo want a video of someone doing this 🤣
10:30 And category two is even wrong, since the 3090 doesn't have all the features, a Titan had. th-cam.com/video/YjcxrfEVhc8/w-d-xo.html
Obama says that PewDiePie has Bigger pp than me. Have an opportunity to smell it on ma channel before it's recommended after 10 years. Let's make this come in next lwiay! :)
Can’t believe the 3090 is almost 3 years old now crazy
now its almost 4 years old
Never thought I'd see Titan RTX on the low-end in benchmarks
Titan is better on workstations for professional use, over the 3090. but sucks in the realm of gaming compared to it.
I mean it was inevitable. If not in the generation then the next one.
@The Based Society They didn't Test actual Workstations functions and because they used Blender not other known CAD software the test results are False positive. LTT did a better review pointing out the difference. It Would be more Accurate for Quadro RTX A6000 to test against. For CAD and AI tests
@@EthansUploads
They didn't Test actual Workstations functions and because they used Blender not other known CAD software the test results are False positive. LTT did a better review pointing out the difference. It Would be more Accurate for Quadro RTX A6000 to test against. For CAD and AI tests
@@EthansUploads Professional work is not only rendering. Titan RTX work better than RTX 3090 in CAD, simulation softwares, AI learning.
I'm a game developer and 3D Artist, I ordered a 3090 for my work along with gaming. I've seen so many people miss the point with this card, i'm grateful you did some production benchmarks and I would like to see more in future rather than just games all the time. Cheers
3DMark is taking its sweet time updating the hall of fake but Kingpin already uploaded his score and holy crap... check out what 3090 on LN2 is doing!
FiRsT
3DMark has always hated me and it seems like this time is no exception. Even though my result is online and valid, it wont show on the leaderboard. Its still good enough for #2 at the moment.
AND it finally updated...
@@siriax1691 using cheese as thermal paste
Never thought of you as the guy liking his own posts :P
Im guessing the next GPU Nvidia releases I'd be able to fit my whole PC inside of it
That’s why gaming laptops suck you can’t fit any half decent gpu
lol
Pretty much. 4090 from some AIB's is as big as some MITX cases.
You were close
I'm sticking with my RTX 2060 for now. I haven't ran into anything that I wanted to do that I couldn't with this card.
yep, RT is overhyped
Yep im good for another couple years with my xfx 5700
i liked my 2060 but i just wasnt a fan of the 6gb vram so i sold it and got a 5700xt very pleased with that i feel like the 2060 super would be perfect for 1080p but not worth the 400 price point
same my msi 2060 is more than enough for me even the 1050 ti i upgraded from was fine but i felt like i was falling behind with it and needed a new gpu
You just cant run it 🤡
What I am hearing is "if you make money with your graphics card, this makes sense"
That's always what the Titan range has been about. It's for the folks who have to pay for their own hardware but make money off their hardware. Once you get into a company paying for your stuff you get quadros.
It makes sense why they didn't allow NVLink on 3080. Cause 2 3080's would crush this card easily at this price point.
@@himanshumodak Exactly. 2x3080 will actually beat the 3090 at a lower price point in plenty of rendering applications that don't require a lot of VRAM. The 14GB gap between 3080 and 3090, and an $800 difference in price without a really noticeable increase in performance is really odd in this line-up. Now, it is also clear how much of a premium 2080Ti users paid for the first generation RTX card compared to the 3080.
"Who uses Blender?" Apparently enough people to make it a requirement for your 3D software and game engine to be able to direct port Blender objects. It's free, but it's a powerhouse that even professional studios are starting to use because of how awesome it is for free and it's open source.
Ye, I think outside of the professional world people haven't yet realized that Blender is making huge gains on proprietary software, the last 3 years have been huge.
Since 2.0 came out Blender is actually en par (or better) with many proprietary applications in some use cases.
I use blender alot.. its great for making 3d models for printing!
i use blender.
started migrating from 3dsmax this month and it's awesome.
@@GraveUypo I agree so much, 3ds max sucks
I used blender like 15 years ago messing around creating models for levels in games like counter-strike etc. back in the day. I don't do any of that now but it's actually pretty cool to see it's still around and doing well.
Dear Jay,
I would really like to see a video comparing 3440x1440 performance on the 3080 vs 3090, for the ultrawide crew looking to max out all the settings in the latest games.
Just take the 1440p results and minus like 10 fps
@@based_will yeah maybe 15-20 on games like cyberpunk
I'm still gonna wait to see what Navi 2 has to offer then I'll deiced. I'm not a fanboy of neither, it's gonna be about the price to performance
Ditto
RTX is a big factor for me.
Nick Amd said that big navi 2 will have ray tracing
@@samirrschannel what rtx uses are you currently using?
@@Baker.Matthew First gen ray tracing on radeon, 2nd gen ray tracing, from the company that pioneered it. Not much question which is going to be a better ray tracing experience, imo.
Thank you for doing the "professional" animation / rendering tests. Would love it if you included more of these in the future!! As someone who has the Titan RTX and needs the 24GB for rendering in Maya, Daz 3D, Unreal, Octane, etc. It's really helpful to see these benchmarks. Many of the other video card benchmarkers only seem to only focus on the video game tests so to me this would be a good way to differentiate from them. Thanks again!
This looks like a great card to get work done for not a lot of money!
Blame it on Nvidia for reviewers showing only gaming benchmarks though , they market this as a gaming card.
Yeah they seem to always just focus on Cinebench and Blender. I wanna know how is the viewport performance of Zbrush, Maya or 3ds, Arnold, houdini,marmoset, marvelous(cpu) Substance painter with 4k maps, Mudbox/Mari with 8k map projection/painting that kinda stuff. In mudbox, projecting 8k textures was the first time I had a really bad time doing anything with 2080 8gb. It may be quite niche but somehow I get the feeling that most reviewers just dont have any idea of what programs 3d artists really use. (Atleast show us some texturing performance plss)
@@pedrosoares7273the prosumer definitely the one who benefitted the most 3090.
Yeah, blame Nvidia for marketing this monster as a gaming card, so it has to be tested as such.
Take the GA 102 die, give it 'the works', and we get the 3090. As the benchmarks have shown, such a package doesn't benefit games very much...
What does bug me is the driver support, since it's Geforce and not Quadro. But it seems some prosumers can get by on Geforce cards just fine.
"I didn't get in on the 8k videos." Shots fired!
More like "I didn't get invited to the 8k videos." :D
I don't understand this 8K trend, because nobody in the world has an 8K TV or monitor - besides some sponsored youtubers.
@@GreatOne0815 There are 8K TV's available for $1.9k. More people are buying them than you think
@@TheBjray Only the few cheaper models. But for what? There isn't even 8K content out there on streaming or tv or even disc. Yeah you can play new games at 30 fps with the 3090 or watch your bad smartphone videos... I don't even see a reason for 8K. 4K is plenty even with projectors.
@@GreatOne0815 There's 8K content on TH-cam and PC gaming. Gotta start somewhere. Chicken and egg problem. We've had these same discussions at every resolution upgrade; 1080p, 4K, etc.
I hope 8K becomes more prominent so high quality 4K gets even cheaper
imagine waiting outside best buy only to realize its only sold online lmfao
4:28 correction: that should be "you vs the guy she says you shouldn't worry about when she's 'working late'".
Jay: I thought Blender was just a benchmark.
Corridor Crew: You what now?
Fun fact, Corridor Crew renders with Octane. At least most of it. There is a free Octane for Blender version you can download from OTOY's website.
@@Mac_Daffy I would definitely be willing to bet they upgrade to 3090s in their workstations
These high level rendering projects often use rendering farms rather than any workstation. Still those workstations are quite beefy. Tho 3090 doesn't make sense even there. You would go for quadro. So 3090 is really only for small-time production, hobbyist and such.
Corridor doesn’t use blender
@@lookie4642 except for peter he uses it
I remember when i was studying CGI over a decade ago, they told me they had numerous shared networks to render frames and it was taking 37 hours per frame to render. How times have changed.
Wow that's crazy 😲
I remember Cad3d on the Atari ST. Hours and hours to raytrace a 320x240 resolution image with about a hundred vertices.
For the final render, won't they still invest that much render time just to get it looking as perfect as possible?
seeibe yes, but the good news is, they will now usually have render farms capable of rendering multiple frames at a time that take that long so it’ll still be faster in the long run.
This is still true for Pixar films since they cram so much detail into their scenes. This is basically a memory issue. Some scens at Pixar takes up to 400 gb of RAM per scene! ;)
I was at the micro center in Tustin, CA since Tuesday and was able to snag an EVGA RTX 3090 XC3 Ultra. I fall into the 3D Artist casual gamer category and am very happy 😊
EDIT: they only had 26 cards the night before and then 5 more came in right before they opened. So 5 people on the wait list were very lucky and happy 😆.
Also, when the extra 3090s came in, 5 more 3080s came in too. Which was the first restock since the 3080’s launch at that store.
Right on! Congrats! I'm also a hobby/enthusiast artist that does the occasional gaming, and am getting more into AI/ML programming. Thanks @JayzTwoCents for the artist workflow perspective. This is what I've been waiting for! I've had my eyes set on the 3090 from the beginning and will likely do a build with that, and a Threadripper early next year!
@coronavirus - I saw that too!
Hey! Another 3D artist here, love the look and performance of the card and will be going for one myself.
Should of bought a quadro.
my sister just did the same thing. camped out since 6pm the day before and 60 more people showed up lol
Don't forget that the 3090 doesn't have Titan drivers with optimisations for some CAD works.
I guess I fall under a third category: "Moose Clubbing Enthusiasts".
Same
😂😂😂
made me chuckle
I must say PC as a hobby is quite inexpensive.
I've the money for it, but not the mentality to justify the spending.
same bruh, unless you shit gold thats a pass
👏👏👏
Exactly
Yeah at least not on launch I'd hate to buy it and the a 3080ti comes out or something like that
Get 3080
"Moose Clubbing" lol, my new favorite term.
what is moose clubbing?
10:42 Blender is a 3d modeling software with a wide range of use and functions, including animation, but its not just for animation. It also can be used as a benchmark of course. And its very capable in all of those aspect, while being absolutely free, which is amazing, imo.
"Gits and shiggles... We're family friendly now." - Jay 2020
@@Rezcuz Nah, he did the thing where he mixes up the first letter of two words.
"Let's just say that the RTX 3090 is even more of a monster than I expected" - except for workstation users who realized they locked Titan features... :(
Wow, they did that?! The only people who will buy this thing would be professionals, who needs this thing for gaming?
Pablo Villegas 3080 is enough for 4K gaming, I agree that the only people using 3090 are professionals
Except there's tons of use cases where the 3090 is a workhorse
moby1kanob he said locked quadro features. Did the titan ever have quadro features?
@@pablovi77 people that game with like 100 monitors or some dumb shot
hello, middle age man here. I need 2 days to recover from a 5 hour sleep night. !! There goes the days we would literally stay awake trying to finish Space Quest 1 and make it through the next day.
No one seems to talk about VR when it comes to use cases ;-;
Probably the half of the audience has 1080p monitor and thinks: should I get 3090 or 3080 or 3070 lol
I mean, the 3070 isn't too bad of a deal if you want high 1080p refresh rates or want to chase the "futureproofing" meme, but there *are* probably better options right now
Edit: reminder that people _do indeed_ use RT as well
I mean even my 1080 kills 1080p gaming.
@@LS95774 3070 is wayy overkill for 1080p, 2070 super allready was. 3070 seems like a perfect 1440 widescreen card tho.
Bought the 3090 bc I need the VRAM. It's just a bonus to be able to play in 4k. Cyberpunk hopefully lol
I'm getting a 3080. I'm using a 240hz 1080p monitor. Also pre-ordered the HP Reverb G2.
Last time I was this early I got a 308-wait no, no I didn’t.
loving the 90s electro ish music for the bench results good job Phil
When your average FPS is worse than the 3090's 1% lows...
Best review man. I have been a TitanRTX user for 8K60 video production in Davinci Resolve. Sold it 4 weeks ago. RTX3090 can come in now.
Smart dude !
Wow lucky I’m too broke to afford a GTX 1660 Ti but then again you have an actual use for that kind of power
I really think you may want to wait if you can.
It’s fairly safe to believe Nvidia is hold cards in their sleeves waiting for Big Navi to launch. The way I see it, there’s an obvious reason (getting away with pricing being one) for not having a 3080 TI and just having a 3090.
What’s the render speeds are like with the RTX
wth I watched your vids years ago nice
I love hearing Phil fire off in the back with the laughs at the dumb jokes. Adds charm to the atmosphere and makes the video much more fun to watch!
Same can not get enough of it hahah
same here, its hilarious xD
Probably the only thing I don't care for in his videos, seems so forced like a laugh track or something.
I don't think I could watch these if it weren't for Phil
His laughing at everything not funny is cringe.
Bought a 2080 MSI EK card over 6 months ago. Very happy with it, don't plan on upgrading for a long time. Love your show. Stay cool.
My girlfriend made me watch frozen 2 recently and I gotta say I actually enjoyed it and the visuals played a large role in my enjoyment. The lighting, the transparent objects, the particle physics, the hair physics, etc.... I was actually blown away
"I thought Blender was just a benchmark"
BRUH. Blender is one of the biggest tools out there for 3D modelling, animation, and compositing. While it may not be industry standard like 3DS Max or Maya, a lot of 3D artists, hobbyists, freelancers, and some studios are using Blender. It is the best free 3D software out there, and it has a very large open source community. Anyone interested in 3D art should check out Blender!
It was just a benchmark to him though
@@Journetta That's fine and all. But he (as well as anyone else who's in the same boat as him) should at least be aware of what Blender actually is. Especially if he's going to talk about it as a Benchmark tool.
0:42 "Too old for five hours sleep." Relatable.
That's why I stopped having kids at 1... sleep is needed too much!
I lined up at micro center I was forth in line. Then people that were sold vouchers got to cut. After an hour and a half of waiting we learned all 3090s were sold as voucher the previous day. Then we were blessed by the RTX gods themselves when the mangers came out and offered 12 3080s for the first people in line. The package had arrived 30 minutes before opening.
In Australia the 3090 starts at $2,700......... What the actual F!
1500USD =2134 AUD
*10% GST = 2347 AUD
+shipping = 2400
2700-2400
= $300 Australia Tax
That seems ok since I'm still seeing 2080ti's for $2600.
I just got 2080ti for $1000. Fuck jumping on the "must have it now" bandwagon.
If the card was good enough 6 months ago then it's sure as hell going to be fine for now.
.. you had me at moose clubbing!
Same... 🤣🤣🤣
Def thinking about that 3070 but I'm curious where the amd cards will land.
Same boat here, taking a lot of patience lol
I doubt they will be better but you’ll probably have to wait that long anyway before you can get a 30 series card
@@wayward4657 Hopefully Nvidia adjust for 3070 launch and has a little more availability. But you're probably right
@@Name-cz5jj Sure, if you want your pc to blow up that is
Specs and benchmarks will probably be close but it'll still end up in the trash if they can't fix driver issues that happen when you use more than one monitor
"this is you vs the guy she says is... she's leaving you for" LOLOLOL XD
Myspace lol
I'm gonna wait on upgrading for the following:
1. 3070 benchmarks
2. Big Navi benchmarks
3. Money
I'm gonna wait for benchmarks for the 3070ti/super because I want just a little bit more performance, but not too much. I'm not running 4k all of the time.
Good luck getting enough of number 3
Review embargo gets lifted and the cards are already out of stock at 6:02 am.
saw the add to cart then the website crashed...
No, they were out of stock at 558a. I had been hitting refresh every second since 550a and when the sale page came up it stated “out of stock”
Yeah it’s great, it seems that they sent out all these cards to reviewers to show us the hype is real and then totally didn’t even give us a chance to get them.
Really glad I can watch my favorite TH-camrs and streamers get them and use them given they had the opportunity to have them secured way before we did.
@@missytwitch154 Same for me, didn't even see "Add to cart". It just went to "Sold out" instantly
@@noahneal4632 there's something called bots and scalpers, look it up sometime. It's not nvidia not giving you the chance to get these cards, it's bots and scalpers. I'd honestly rather have the reviewers get the cards first because then they can do reviews on them. How are we suppose to know the actual performance of the cards if there's no reviews?
Why is you guys's Benchmarking Music so fire? Like, I came here for numbers but I found myself jamming.
Weirdo
Phil always uses awesome chunes
@@Chadowgon5 How is he weird for liking the music?
@@hotchocolate8008 You wish i tell you
@@Chadowgon5 lmao what?
I'll wait when they come up with the *RTX TITAN II* with...
*CUDA CORES:* _14,080_
*RT CORES:* _110 {Gen2)_
*TENSOR CORES:* _440 (Gen3)_
*VRAM:* _50GB G6X_
Rumours?
That will cost at least 5k$
It's only gonna be 48GB
I'm waiting for the 3080"Ti" FE... for sure x)
2:15 - just sitting in front of my laptop together with my Titan RTX, petting her and read out the specs of the 3090 to her. What a wonderful picture.
?
Jay is stroking that Titan like Gollum stroking his precious.
A titan to rule them all!!
@@lloydtshare Yea. Until the next gen comes out in a couple of years
Waiting for the 3070 so I can fully upgrade everything else and make it "justifiable"
That's probably my plan too. I've got a R7 2700 and a gtx1080.
I'm rocking a 960 👌
im waiting for amd 3070 that will probally come with way more vram lets just hope there drivers arent wack haha jesus if thats a whole thing again be just sad....
@_Chino98 i like the 5600xt better option instead of a 2060
I'll be keeping my current card for a few years, I think, Jay.
I just finished (3 weeks ago) my 1st build in 28 years (the last one was a 486DX50 in '92, which I still have). I've 'suffered' with laptops, for the last 20+ years, and decided to build a rig to help make retirement more enjoyable (I'll be 67 in a month), considering the LTs won't play games newer than 2005.
Asus Z490-E Gaming, i9-10900K, Corsair 240mm AIO (space limitation, but I'm keeping my eye on temps), 64GB (@2933 as the board has a problem taking it to the RAM's 3600, although it was fine with 32GB), 2x 2TB NVMe PCIe (C & D), 2x 8TB Enterprise-class HDD in RAID1 (E), an external 4TB hardware RAID1 to back up the 2 SSDs (R), a 'lightly used' (via ebay) EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti XC Hybrid Gaming (with factory-installed 120mm AIO), BlueRay burner (F), hot-swap bay for 3.5" desktop drives (G), 1x 140mm and 4x 120mm pushing into the case with 3x 120mm slims pushing out through the rads, Corsair HX1000i PSU, which is all crammed into a cheap(ish) mid-tower, and an assortment of peripherals (Rift S, G29 w/ shifter (I use a PS4 as well), flight yoke, GT Omega stand for wheel/yoke, Elgato capture, yada yada). It even has a wireless remote.
Nothing is clocked, yet, as I expect I can get a couple of years out of it before performance needs a tweak as, to me, it's already blindingly fast. I can always add another 2080 ti in SLI, in a couple of years, when they get dirt cheap (assuming SLI is still a 'thing').
"Cable management" is a 4-letter word.
Jay "I thought Blender was a benchmark" StewCents
I really facepalmed when he said that. I mean, it's okay to admit not knowing about it, but even people with a remote interest in the 3D industry would like to pimp slap you for thinking that.
@@ZeroUm_ I mean, he did say he was gonna make himself look dumb one way or the other...
@@ZeroUm_ yeah, that hurt when he said it, i was like "et tu brute?" XP
which is odd that some just dont look into 'what is it benchmarking for' and 'for who it relates to'
It was a benchmark to him, cuz thats all he used it for.
I'm actually shocked that it is actually more than just a benchmark. 2020 is indeed full of surprises.
Next I'll be finding out 3d Mark is actually an engineering design tool for city architects.
I swear the title was "We broke the world record by accident" or something similar just an hour or so ago. Sneaky Jay!
Yeah, it was “The RTX 3090 is here... and we already broke a world record with it!”
Obama says that PewDiePie has Bigger pp than me. Have an opportunity to smell it on ma channel before it's recommended after 10 years. Let's make this come in next lwiay! :)
5:11 Song- Strip Stab by Marten Moses. You can find it on YT and Spotify. Enjoy People!!
Thank you! Was looking for this!
@@Hellware Glad you found it
Nvidia's store made some sweeping changes to combat bots. They changed all their internal APIs for inventory, added a captcha to add to cart, and put in temporary IP banning for F5ing too much. They also switched around which site route to buy the card at. Nvidia did their due diligence, the question is did the other retailers do the same?
Can i have a hoodie that says JayzTwoCents on the front and
"I Digress" on the back that would be awesome
It's okay to accept free shit, it's not okay to ask for free shit.
@@Keatononame13 I'm a bit on the fence of whether he was asking for a free hoodie, or was giving a suggestion for a hoodie design. Checked the merch store, and I don't see I Digress on the back. Or at least can't see the back of the hoodie to verify that it says I Digress.
Also, gits and shiggles.
@@Keatononame13 moron
@@soul8bounce i digress, for gits and shiggles
Things never said in a TH-cam video before today: "You wanna go moose clubbing?!"
Hey, moose like to have fun too!
Sounds like a very specific furry social hotspot.
g vnhtsm It’s all fun and games until you run into a moose on a bad trip.
Pretty sure he meant the other type of clubbing, guys, on account of how big it is. Can't tell if you are all being serious though. #woosh for me haha.
Wow i never realized how heavy movie making was, this was very interesting. Btw can I know the acoustic difference between the founders 3090 and the MSI one
Thanks for taking the time to run benchmarks applicable to at least one of the target audiences for this card (rendering). The other audience is people that deal with machine learning but they will without a doubt run their own benchmarks after they pick one up. In any case, this is a no brainer. I'm going with the 3090. I spend enough time looking at progress bars and the extra $700 or whatever is worth it to get even the smallest bit of that time back.
"Thats why we have got big chungus here" - Jay 2020
The Great Chumungus!😂
lol so dork
I could have bought a 3090 today, well I added it to my cart and got to the checkout at 9:13am est as a test...noticed they added a 1 per customer limit...wish they had that on the 80 last week...
Damn, at 9:02am it said out of stock for me. I wasn't going to buy it but I wanted to see how stable the website was and all that
It's been in my cart for 3 hours. Says checking out then just goes back to check out with no error or explanation.
Not going to need a heater this winter. All that heat has got to go somewhere.
The first time I got a decent computer, I shut the heater off in the computer room. It has been off ever since. Who needs an electric heater when you can have an electronic one? During the ten warm days a year we get here the room turns into a sauna though, the ventilation is abysmal.
I was going to get a 3080, but I was still on a 1080p 60hz screen. So instead, I upgraded my monitor to a 1440p high refresh adaptive sync monitor. I've upgraded gpu's in the past, and gotten big performance gains, but nothing compares to upgrading your monitor, as long as you can push it. So far, even today, my 1080ti isn't having an issue pushing this monitor. So I feel like I ended up making a better decision, and having a better experience than if I had upgraded my graphics card.
Waiting for AMD to show their hand, it's due diligence at this point.
Oh gosh, shut up 😒
@@itssnoopy333 It'll be a waste of time mind, RTG launch that is.
AMD is still gonna be behind by a mile. Their CPUs on the other hand are mint.
@@clansome I'd advise against that attitude, it's made me not buy any components for 7 years.
@@Plague_Doc22 so you have a crystal ball i guess? I don't care who makes a card. I'm not a homer. I just want the best I can afford. What does it cost to wait a few weeks when you can't buy the fucking nvidia card anyway? The second wave of rtx cards should arrive around the same time as the AMD release anyway.
Jay: "I tested from 9am until 2 in the morning ... "
< the F5 army is not impressed >
Smart ass incoming xD
Also - Blender is used to make 3D Model assets whether its for games, game mods, movies, etc.
Where I live, a used 1080TI cost about 600 usd, and they are around 350 USD now. I decided to upgrade from a 1070 to a 1080ti for a boost that will last me a bit. I mainly play competetive games and all i need is the stable 240-300fps. Love the direction of this launch relative to the previous 2000 series launch though!
Yeah, for gaming, this is a horrid card for the price.
better paying for this than the same amount for a 3080 on ebay
@@benjaminsimpson9544 that was my logic but I couldn't even get this goddamn thing
Benjamin Simpson yeah hopefully everyone will get the chance in the next month or two
@@benjaminsimpson9544 Except the eBay prices are also dogshit, and were currently made by scalpers who bought the card with bots and then tried to sell it for twice the price to scam people who were desperate.
Not for 8k gaming, which is all Nvidia suggested for gaming with this card.
the nVidia stock shortage is actually good imho, makes me wait to see what AMD have to offer :D
@dembro Some rumors say the 3090 was released without the titan nomenclature to keep the crown in gaming performance. Time will tell but it would be great for competition if AMD could release a 600 dollar card that tops the 3080.
The stock shortage is on purpose to drive the price up. They're gonna go up $50 at the end of the month and then they'll start selling higher VRAM versions for even more money. No way in hell the average person can walk in a store and by a 3080 for $700. All this was well predicted by Moore's Law is Dead.
That timeline in blender in the spring scene, doesn't have any impact on vram at all... The vram usage would come from textures and polygons. Not positional information for a character rig, that's calculated by the CPU.
This is a list of parts for my first ever PC build, any suggestions/advice or feedback would truly help me tremendously. Thank you. CPU-Intel i9-10900k, CPU Cooler-Noctua NH-D15 Chromax.Black, Motherboard-Asus ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO(Wi-Fi) LGA 1200, Memory-Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro(4 sticks of 16GB each), GPU-Trying to get literally any 3080 but preferably not one of the worse custom cards, Case-Phanteks Eclipse P500A Digital RGB Mid Tower, PSU-Corsair 850W 80+ Titanium Fully Modular ATX and Monitor-Asus ROG Swift PG258Q 24.5” 1920x1080 Hz Monitor
"Moose Clubbing" I laughed, I pictured Drinking with a big old Moose.... what a party.
...I pictured Jay actually clubbing a moose.
Ron Swanson dancing gif, except it's a moose.
Definitely a titan, at best 20% for double the money.
Better than the titans of last gen i guess
nope 10% -15% at most
titan can do other thing as well but 3090 are good for if you had to provide your studio artist to made it on their pc station..
It's not for gaming
Except a 3080 currently costs 1500 or so
I'm not a 3D animator, as I only ever need a handful of still renders for what I do. But if I was a 3D animator, I would definitely invest in one of these. Those Blender numbers are downright impressive, and for people who use their computers for both work and play...the 3090's value can't be beat, since the Quadros start at $4,000 and go up to $9,000.
Thanks as always, Jay!
I'm still using an i7-7700K and a Gigabyte 1080TI Xtreme. I would have been perfectly fine with 3080 levels of performance in games for the amount of actual work this thing can do. I'm at my limits as far as the 1080Ti can do with animation and fluid simulations. To get this level of workstation performance at this price point is a dream come true for an amateur freelance artist like myself. I can't wait to do a build with one of these.
"I didn't get in on the 8k videos" come on Jay, we know you wanted to... you'll get your 8k tv soon enough!
Does Linus get to keep that 8K TV? Because that damn thing is the price of a decent car.
Jay and what small fortune?
@@kennylaysh2776 probably, who would buy a used 30 000$ tv?
"Roses are red"
"violets are blue"
"I refreshed on Nvidia's site for a half an hour"
" and so did you."
Yep and nothing came of it. Got a refresh screen that said out of stock
nope
Not this time, I was there for the 3080 but I’m not wasting my time anymore. AMD to spite Nvidia.
1070 i still love you.
Indeed
Thanks Jay for your caveat about CAD, animators, etc. As an architect, (where we draw, 3d model, and animate) I am so numb to people's comments on spending twice as much on hardware, when $800 extra for 15% more power I can shave that much more time off production, and earn back my ROI in less than two weeks, if not two days as my billable rate is $250/hr. BIM software (Revit) works better with the instructions set of gaming cards over workstation cards, that for the minimal amount we have to run AutoCAD we won't be bottlenecked by not having an additional quadro card in our machines. Thanks for your review and comments!!
Only Jay would use the phrase "Moose Clubbing'! ROTFL 😜
As a car guy, I love how you always use car analogy.
Have you seen his car?
eatthisvr6 no, what is it?
@@andrewc1097 cant remember exactly haha, something like a 700 hp vette or camaro etc
Yeah he has a car channel on yt also....
Andy Tra didn’t know that! Awesome!
Titan: Nooooo you can't just beat me in almost every single way. I cost over 3.5 times as much as you do.
RTX 3080: Haha Ampere go zoom zoom.
until 12:25
@@omgwtfhaxfan1221003 Hence why i said almost every single way.
@@omgwtfhaxfan1221003 are you joking?
if so im set up for a woooosh
titan: at least i still have vram :((
Watch the Linus review.
I love my EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra. The 3090 is still a beast card and will remain so for several more years to come.
Yea...
@@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster Yea what
3rd type of user for 3090: people who mod their games so hard they need the best GPU they can get.
I have a 2080ti FTW3 ultra with 3950x and I have a Skyrim so modded (over 1,000) that I can only get about 40 fps 4k, GTAV gets in the 40s as well on 4k with NVE, L.A. roads and L.A. vegetation. I have towns on fallout 4 with over 200 settlers that tanks FPS to about 15.
I NEED that 3090 ASAP!
Wait for 3080 20GB
Your games are over modded im surprised you don't crash every 5 seconds
OK, that's all, what i needed to know. I gonna save $700 this year.
800$*
@@Z4blA $700.
1499-699 = $800
If you argue the 3080 can only be found for more, the same can be said for the 3090.
$699 3080 FE vs $1499 3090 FE... that's a $800 difference
From 3090's i would buy the cheapest. But from 3080's i will take Asus Rog Strix or Gigabyte Gaming OC. But y'all retards already know better, what i wanted.
Please make a shirt that says "Wanna go moose clubbing" I would buy it immediately
Have a 3090 in the middle 😂
Just a picture of Jensen in a plaid long sleeve , vest and a hunting cap holding an RTX 3090 with that captioned underneath xD
Next Year comes around...
Me to NVidia: "Bet you can't do double again!..."
There is a third category: VR gamers running 2160x2160 per eye in car / flight sims.
You owe me a new keybord! Mooseclubbing caused me to blow my tea through my nose all over my keybord.
Lmaoooo so true
sticking with 1080ti for at least 6 more months, until this craziness dies down
Same I've had a 1080ti since like 3 months after launch and really haven't had the itch to update it. Using 1440p @144Hz G-sync.
It's not like you can actually get one rven if you want, atm
I’m with you on this. I have a 1070 and really want to move up to a 3080 to get more out of Microsoft flight sim 2020. But I think it’s going to be close to March next year before I actually get my hands on a 3080. Gutted.
Ye, the 1080ti is a damn fine card, I'm rocking a rx580 in my gaming PC, I definitely need an upgrade before CP2077 comes out.
Also got 1080ti, although it's only the FE. I don't remember having much troubled buying it. I really want the 3080 FE though.
Was the 1080ti really released almost a year after the 1080? I can't remember why I didn't buy the 1080. making me wonder if there will be an improved 3080 card in 6-10 months.
I never buy Titan cards, but always get the one slotted just below that, which has typically been the Ti series. It looks like Nvidia will be eventually launching a new Titan based on locking out those features on the 3090. Plus there’s a high likelihood they’ll eventually release a 3080 Super or whatever they want to call it. So for gamers who want to have the best FPS card but not pay for a Titan and not have another 3080 variant come out that outperforms their 3080 base card, that seems to leave the 3090.
PER NVIDIA - "For CAD, Design and other professional application, TITAN or Quadro is more appropriate since those GPUs have features enabled to specifically accelerate those workloads. The same also applies for AI training for instance"
So long story short, just get the 3080 20gb version once that one drops.
That would be the best one. But 3080 10gb is still good. Only 12% less than the 3090.
@@gp381 For sure, but if you we're to use it for other things than gaming I think the 20gb 3080 will be the best bang for your buck.
using that logic, dont buy a 3080ti buy the 4080ti
@@daanvanbrouwershaven but if you're using these cards for non-gaming, then you're probably making money off of your work. In which case, doing 12% more work in the same time for 100% higher cost ends up making you more money in the long run.
@@Erowens98 The more you buy, the more you save!
JayzTwoCents: "Doom Infernal"
ID Software: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!
You mean Microsoft now
LOLOLOL
@@willmccargish945 dammit ! you beat me to it ! xD
nolinagirLasia.link
@@willmccargish945 Microsoft only owns ZeniMax which is a parent company of ID Software, but Microsoft has nothing to do with the games these companies make
Thanks Jay. This video cleared up some misconceptions I had about GPUs. Much appreciated
Still going to continue using my GTX 1070 at 1440p as it still plays the games I enjoy at high or max settings at an FPS I am comfortable with.
Really great to see the leap in tech though and not the giant leaps in price.
That 3080 looks comically small when next to the 3090
Gotta say, even as a metalhead, I really prefer jams like this over the metal riffs during your benchmark graphs. Thanks.
That was cool. Two wishes: Would be nice to see a Quadro 6000 added to the comparison . A tensorflow bench
If it’s using ~700 GB/s GDDR6 rather than the 3090’s ~936 GB/s GDDR6X - even with two more SMs on the full GA102 - it’ll perform worse.
Wanted 3080 but was afraid my 650 psu wasn’t enough and was late also. Sooo now I’m stuck with the 3070 and I’m happy about it. This time I won’t miss