The Dark Secret of Legendary Ruin Pokemon - Theory

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    The dark secret behind the legendary ruin pokemon of paldea and how they are responsible for Gimmighoul
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ความคิดเห็น • 513

  • @edwarddanza5468
    @edwarddanza5468 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    I just love that the Ruinous Quartet are the actual object and their bodies are composed of elements in nature. It gives sort of Unnatural/Supernatural God vibes that really makes them Legendaries imo. I feel like we haven't gotten any of that in recent games and it's great to see that coming back

  • @wobblewokgaming655
    @wobblewokgaming655 ปีที่แล้ว +699

    The Treasures of Ruin are actually based off of the Four Perils of Chinese Mythology: Ting-Lu is based on Taoie, Chien-Pao is based on Qiongqi, Wo-Chien is based on Taowu and Chi-Yu is based on Hundun.

  • @burnished
    @burnished ปีที่แล้ว +279

    What I find super interesting about Paldea is just.. the lack of developed land? We went from Galar, super developed and techy, to Paldea that just has one major city and only a few other significant towns. Team Star are the only people that go as far north and east as possible. Ting-Lu's area is vacant of people and buildings. The destruction these Ruinous Pokemon must have set Paldea back thousands of years for development?

  • @spamtong.spamton8416
    @spamtong.spamton8416 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    I do think Gimmighoul is definitely linked to the Treasures of Ruin, but I don't think they're the merchant that sold them. I think Gimmighoul is actually the coins that the merchant was paid with. The dex entries for the Treasures of Ruin all mention how they're inanimate objects brought to life by intense human emotions, and one of Gimmighoul's dex entries in Scarlet says the same thing about it, saying that it was born from passion that seeped into a coin. Passion like that of a treasure-obsessed king who's willing to pay any sum of money to acquire what they think are rare and legendary treasures, perhaps.

  • @squishvgc
    @squishvgc ปีที่แล้ว +228

    I find it interesting that the legend uses the specific wording of pokemon “wielders” that defeated the ruinous quartet. The only other time we’ve seen that word used is Volo, who also happens to be a merchant from the east if we consider Hisui to be in the east since it’s based in Japan. Also notable that ms raifort has images of laventon and the old poke balls in her classroom, possibly implying a connection to PLA?

  • @matthutton7078
    @matthutton7078 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    I feel like the history teacher had plans for these pokemon. For one, she knows where they were sealed away, and said something along the lines of "Maybe this trainer is the one..." like she needs you to free and catch them. The reason she can't do it is possibly because only a person of a pure heart, without greed can break the seal (which the player is) She also gives you the TM for Nasty Plot, which I had not gotten anywhere else in the game until then, even after exploring Area Zero fully. It might be something that comes up in future DLC who knows.

  • @lyras.9161
    @lyras.9161 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Can we also talk about the fact that Raifort is probably goddamn evil? She repeatedly brings up that she wishes she could explore the Treasures herself, but only a 'pure heart' can break the seals, and your reward for getting all of them is her giving you the TM for Nasty Plot. Somethin' shady with that lady.

  • @Sam-yg1lt
    @Sam-yg1lt ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I think for Wo-Chien it is described as sucking the life from vegetation. Not far from his prison there is a mire or swamp filled with mud croagunks and goomy. I think it is possible this is the aftermath of its destruction.

  • @jonglejuice
    @jonglejuice ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The names literally translate in Chinese to what they are: ting (that type of pot) lu (deer); wo (snail) chien (a type of bamboo tablet/one segment of bamboo); chien (sword) pao (leopard); chi yu (goldfish/jade). // also, in Chinese, the word for Four is a homonym for the word for Death

  • @fadinphoenix
    @fadinphoenix ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The Calamity Quartet is my favorite group of legendary pokemon in years.

  • @TheBigE9999
    @TheBigE9999 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My personal pet theory that doesn't really have any basis is that the merchant was really Volo. If anyone's selling supremely cursed artifacts for a quick buck, it's him

  • @joshuarunnie4734
    @joshuarunnie4734 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    The story made me think of the Silk Road - which has loosely been alluded to before with the Ginkgo Guild and some of the lore around Kubfu (how it left Galar long ago with humans to explore and trade). I’m hoping it’s leading up to a future region based somewhere in China someday - this Legendary Quartet has become my favourite for design and lore. It was nice to have a myth backing up their reason for being there and not simply “Oh, here’s this thing on the overworld, battle it”

  • @BecauseImBatmanFilms
    @BecauseImBatmanFilms ปีที่แล้ว +30

    "Don't skip out on history class"

  • @thefirsttyrantrum
    @thefirsttyrantrum ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I have noticed something very interesting things as well:

  • @benb4192
    @benb4192 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    With your theory about Ting-Lu pouring water from its bowl to create the lake, I don't think that's the case. Scarlet's pokedex says that "fear" was "poured" into it, so some sort of physical embodiment of fear, not lakewater unfortunately. However, Violet's pokedex says "It slowly brings its exceedingly heavy head down upon the ground, splitting the earth open with huge fissures that run over 160 feet deep", which could explain the lake, or the deep divot where Ting-Lu's shrine is. Chien-Pao's pokedex says that it causes avalanches, which is odd because there's no snow anywhere near it, but maybe it was locked up there specifically to keep it as far away from Glaseado Mountain as possible, which is the location of the Highest Peak and would cause the most destruction. Perhaps the ski slopes there had actually been created by an avalanche Chien-Pao created centuries ago. Wo-Chien is said to "drain the life-force from vegetation, causing nearby forests to instantly wither and fields to turn barren", as per its Violet pokedex entry. There doesn't seem to be a good fit for anywhere on the map, but it's been centuries so it's not too unexpected that everything would've grown back

  • @devilfacethedarklord
    @devilfacethedarklord ปีที่แล้ว +31

    You can even show the history teacher the ruinous pokemon.Even says if you can't handle them she won't mind taking them off your hands.

  • @tkfarms7882
    @tkfarms7882 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I was somehow expecting you to theorize that the merchant who sold the king those four relics was actually Volo, because, well, time travel and Volo is a perfectly despicable person and I can easily see him betraying the king the same way he betrays the player at the end of Legends Arceus.

  • @lordofninjas1
    @lordofninjas1 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Based on the history lesson, it sounds like it takes some inspiration from actual Spanish/Portuguese history, with the area being divided into multiple kingdoms (Leon, Castile, etc.) that fought and eventually unified into the Spain and Portugal that we have today. I believe there were also Eastern influences in that region as well, though I think in Iberia it was more influenced by Islamic stuff than Chinese stuff. It would be interesting to dig more into Iberian history and see if this can help in figuring some of this out for the Pokemon world.

  • @Gochen86
    @Gochen86 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Wo-Chien resembles a snail or slug of some kind, and the region of the map it's found is a wetland, complete with a muddy swamp. And Chien-Po (my personal favorite of the four, and a permanent member of my Scarlet team) is located in a section of the map that's absolutely

  • @tinyandtetchy56
    @tinyandtetchy56 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When I saw the Pokémon came from a “merchant from the east” I thought it may have been Volo but I like the gimmighoul theory a lot,it reallyties everything together.