Huge NEW Discovery Shocks GoldenEye 007 Speedrunning!
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Recently, GoldenEye's oldest speedrunning exploit was revamped when a new way to 'warp' was discovered. This is truly shocking, as in hindsight it was a really simple and obvious idea. Today we learn a bit about the history of 'warping' in GoldenEye, and the new technique that was uncovered.
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When you played Goldeneye N64 multiplayer for uncounted hours in so many different locations in the 90s and yet never knew that you could lean around corners.
Yeah wtf, you could lean around corners?! This changes everything. My prox mine strategy on facility will never be the same.
Yep, might have helped to save numerous friendships that dissolved over lopsided multiplayer games if we knew you could properly snipe each other!
Oh shit, didn’t expect to see you here!
I love seeing you here!
*countless
“There is no way the community never thought of this extremely obvious technique for over 2 decades….. S O N O F A B I T C H”
🤣🤣🤣 dammit Karl you absolute legend!
11:05
So you rewatch it
I laughed hard ahahahah
@@pandemicaunt6341 LEGEND
@@juniorcruvinel3926 same here 🤣🤣
@@juniorcruvinel3926 Same.
"This is totally unrelated" " I don't know why I'm talking about it" ...well, if you insist Karl.
That "Son of a bitch" got me real good, too
First, Summoning Salt's "It was Matt Turk. .....just kidding" and now this. These two are becoming little trolls, I swear.
@@EdwardHowton
"We've Been Tricked, We've Been Backstabbed and We've Been Quite Possibly, Bamboozled"
“Many of you watching weren’t even born...and the rest of you are old” Thanks Karl 👍
Hes right, I wasnt born
He's right I'm old :(
I was 6 years at the time 😅
Yeah that hit me like a brick 😂 I miss my N64, so many great memories with ocarina of time.
9:48 He doesn't actually say the rest of you are old but nice addition.
Karl, the R-lean trick to get up Aztec trench (as well as to get back into bathroom vents in Facility) originated on game hacking forums in the late 90's and was submitted to Electronic Gaming Monthly who printed an article on it if I recall correctly. R-Lean was known pretty quickly after GoldenEye 007 was released, that is probably where you learned it from.
Epic thanks. It was so long ago I couldnt remember.
you absolute legend
oh shit, so THAT was the trick to get back in thew vents. my little child mind didnt understand what those code sites were talking about when they described the process to do it.
Hiding in the vents, classic multiplayer dirtbag strat
Yep, I remember reading it in a magazine sometime around 97-98. I used it to get back into the Facility vents, but I could never do it reliably enough to use it in multiplayer.
Oh man when it comes to anything Golden Eye related, Karl's expertise is even more appreciated
When comes to anything Donkey Kong related, Billy Mitchell's expertise is even more appreciated
i prefer goose :D
no offense :D
I think goose video was a lot better!
@@iaqh when it comes to anything super mario bros related, badabun's expertise is even more appreciated
Wow when 'Karl Jobst 2001' came up I realised how we are TWENTY YEARS down the line. So crazy to think games like this have defined our lives.
Tell me about it lol I'm a DooM runner.
@@TooLameToDie how long (since you started)?
Karl casually showing his clips from 2001 is an unimaginable humble brag. Awesome stuff
Goes to show that if you’re thinking of speedrunning a game but you’re intimidated by the years and years of work the community has already done on the game, don’t be. You just might contribute something significant just by having fresh eyes.
Yeah, definitely. 99.9% of the time I think of such ideas for my speedgame, they are dumb and don't go anywhere. That 0.1% has left me with a few routes/optimizations to my name though :)
I really hope Karl goes on with the Boba Skip video, though it seems he won't... Because that was even more of that, she wasn't even speedrunning, she was just blindly playing MGS for the first time on stream...
@@NotAghostSpeedruns This is the whole reason I have any interest in the speedrunning community; figuring out the optimizations is so interesting and exciting to me
I've actually had similar experiences in World of Warcraft. Priests are able to solo Dire Maul (North) and I had eventually built up a meta and my own rhythm for clearing it efficiently.
But this had basically blinded me to other possibilities. After all, the meta was settled, right? I'd waste time experimenting when I just wanted to complete the run quickly for its loot.
So I showed other priests how to do it, and because they were new, they were far more willing to experiment while learning, discovering new tricks to make the runs faster in the process. I of course incorporated those tricks into my own runs
@@NotAghostSpeedruns I kinda speedran the final boss in Oceanhorn once. The second phase is a joke though.
"for almost a quarter of a century" As someone who remembers buying this game let me just say I don't like being made to feel old like that Karl.
The game is older than Mayonnaise Higa. 😲
I was in my 20's when Goldeneye came out....where did it all go?
I remember listening to the Slim Shady LP with my cousin while playing Goldeneye. Crazy ass time
@@TooLameToDie closer to the retirement home from the sound of it
11:18: The collective thoughts of the entire Goldeneye speedrunning community.
It's kinda amazing this was done by someone not even associated with the speedrunning community. Sometimes all it really takes is an outside perspective to see something others didn't.
Who or what is the speedrunning community? What makes you part or not of that community? Followers? Popularity? The platform you use to play?
@@OrochiCr I'm personally not involved in anything, but I'd say it's just a group of people who come together on forums (or I guess Discords now) dedicated to speedrunning. Different games can have their own different communities. This Acadie person apparently wasn't involved with submitting records or communicating with other GE runners, thus being considered an "outsider". Not that that devalues whatever it is someone's doing.
If I had a nickel for every time, this year alone, people found a cut in a 10+ year old game that in hindsight was considered incredibly obvious, but still took at minimum a decade to find, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice.
What's the other one?
Now that I think about it, how many 10+ year old games have active speedrunning communities? Part of me thinks that the more there are the more likely stuff like this will be found, but then again that would be splitting the speed running community. Furthermore, larger communities in the past probably means more bugs/strategies found years ago.
I think the other nickel comes from metal gear solid and the discovery of the Boba skip, not sure though
@@alexmiddleton2276 portal?
@@want-diversecontent3887 Could be Portal for example :)
"Hello you absolute legends" is an intro that will never get old.
FACTS
it is absolutely legendary indeed
only for absolute legends
So is the like counter
Doesn't that other Aussie gamer, what's his name (Googles) "Modest Pelican" also use this catchphrase ?
Karl: It causes lag, which affects the way bond's position is calculated in the game
Me: Kinda like mario 64 wall speed building....
Karl: Similarly to how speedrunners in mario 64-
Me: Alright, i know too much.
Honestly I think it's more comparable to DK64 speedrunning. Mario 64 clips are generally based on Mario's own extreme velocity, while DK64 has many clips that involve intentionally lagging the game because the game speeds up DK to compensate.
I love it when things like this happen in speedrunning where everyone goes "WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THIS BEFORE?" lol
Sometimes they actually think about it, but since it seems pretty obvious or not enough hard to do, they go with the idea that they aren't correct before actually trying to do them lmao
“Many of you watching weren’t even born”
Me: *weeps in old*
Fun tidbit for python programmers/analyst types - Wes McKinney, seen at 2:57 doing an early warp recording, is actually the originator of the python pandas library. Yup!
Bringing pandas and pythons together through reading, that's incredible
Todd todgers could do it by starting in second gear.
Yeah Todd todgers could but not Todd Rogers
Talk about human element
It's kind of mindblowing to realize that Karl was around 20 years ago speedrunning Goldeneye.
The comedic timing at 11:18 fucking killed
😂😂😂
Ngl, lold.
I need that isolated and put into a soundboard.
Yes, it was very well played.
I replayed that part like 4x over and it had me loling!
sm64 glitches: cloning, negative speed, A L T E R N A T E U N I V E R S E.
goldeneye glitches: L e a n
"There is no way the community never thought of this extremely obvious technique for over two decades"
The community: Well yes, but actually no
Mon', I'm sorry for being mean and stuff to you before, like a year ago or whenever, in a comment, but how do you comment this much? Do you use any tools, or do you genuinely have this much passion for the art and craft of Commenting?
I am Jamaican.
@@hoopmooy3543 he just spends a lot of his time on TH-cam and says incredibly generic statements typically the most obvious part of a video and moves on to another video
@@zk0rned I have wondered if there are plugins or scripts/sites that show the most active part of any given video. It would make it a lot quicker to digest enough of what the video is roughly about so that one could comment something that seems related. The main reason I was wondering, is that I've seen a few similar 'commenters' popup recently, making me think that maybe it's a technique for gaining subs or boosting themselves somehow, within the algorithm.
@@hoopmooy3543 guy needs a job
@@catethps Sounds like he has one
As obvious as the twist was when you first introduced R Throws, the drawn out, yet perfectly timed delivery was phenomenal. Keep up the great work.
I barely play any of the games Karl talks about, but I always click on his videos as soon as I see them. He is simply the best on TH-cam.
Same here. I go months at a time without playing a single video game at all but still love his videos and the stories he tells.
He’s an excellent investigator and story teller. Whatever he studies we would enjoy watching.
Agreed. I cannot for the life of me get into Goldeneye, but I'll stop what I'm doing and watch a video of it from the man himself 🤣
I remember using the lean to get up ladders quickly back in the 90s, never thought you could apply it to cliffs or anything beyond that.
“Son of a bitch” Another banger of a vid Karl. Fascinating how you ended up finding footage of yourself using the glitch in a similar way 20 years ago. But nobody thought about using it on Bunker 2 until it was discovered by some guy just playing goldeneye by himself. Beautifully simple
Ah yes, the good old "Too experienced to figure out something new"-syndrome. Or old "not used routes/tricks because people back then were not as good at the game and then everyone simply copied the fastest run". I've seen it time and time again in so many speedruns ^^
This is a large reason why when I'm learning a new game to run, I'm not just interested in the current techniques and tricks that are used, but all the tricks and techniques, and how they work on a fundamental level
Just screwing around in the game can lead to new discoveries like in the "Barnyard" Gamecube game with the bike being fun to play around with.
11:20 This is my favorite part of the video, it's just pure Gold. The whole segment preceding it is also Gold, but that line is simply the cherry on top.
So happy that a game that’s over 20 years old is still relevant in today’s time. I still have my original copy of GE64 from way back when
Cuz James Bond is epic!
Sadly I donated my 64 to a (game room) my church setup 3 days after it was setup someone came in and stole all the consoles and games 😭
@@goreobsessed2308 awe man that’s sucks. My copy is all sorts of messed up I can still play it but the Bond Cover in the front is all torn and ripped... luckily I found a copy at the thrift store for 5 dollars a few years ago that’s nearly in mint condition
One thing I really love about Golden Eye is the soundtrack. So much nostalgia.
Honestly imo the best part of it.
If it was discovered 20 years ago, the story wouldn't be as interesting. It's so cool to see, even though I know nothing about the game
I'm not even into speedrunning at all, but something about the way you present it Karl is just legendary.
I would say it is because you can tell he has a true passion for what he is speaking on. Not just speaking on a topic for clicks and revenue. But because he legitimately has a love for this .
@@Talking-Monkey hell yeah, what you said. Also seems like a genuinely good dude too.
This kind of stuff is possibly my favorite part of speed running. The fact that new techniques and glitches are still being found even in games as old and popular as GoldenEye is amazing!
The best speedrun tactics are found by just screwing around.
MGS1 also had a new glitch that skips an area be found like last month by someone who's not a speedrunner, surprising Karl didn't talk about it.
@@Lukmendes Cool! I'll have to look that up.
@@EpicallyAverageDude I think it's called Boba skip, named after the player who found it, like RE4's Ditman glitch.
This reminds me of a glitch I found playing The Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth. When you lean to the right your head can clip through walls allowing you to see through walls. That by itself is not that useful, but at least allows you to see enemies more than just around corners.
Now, near the end of the game you're also in a cell, trapped and stripped of all your weapons, you're supposed to crouch and squeeze through a gap then go around a bunch of places until you reach the place where your weapons are stored, because even while they're next to your cell the door is locked from the other side... So, you lean to the side clipping your head through the door and interact with the lock, opening that door much faster.
In "A Hat in Time" you can abuse sliding to jump again and a bit longer too if you try spinning clockwise.
These videos that avoid controversy or cheating etc. in the community, and focus instead on clever discoveries and impressive achievements are a pleasure to watch. Thanks Karl!
"Hello you absolute legends."
But in reality, the absolute legend was Karl Jobst all along.
The true absolute legend were the frames we saved along the way
@@pedroff_1 I was expecting this one at some point
Note: in SM64, Mario wall checks are done 4 times per frame. So each frame has 4 quarter steps, and mario needs 4 times more speed to clip a wall in a q-step. Walls are 100 to 141.4 units wide so 400 to 565.6 spd is needed. (More may be needed depending on circumstances.)
Now Bond just needs to learn how to BLJ.
Length: 1337, just on point
coincidence? I prefer to think it wasn't
@@Delarius86 I hope so. Interestingly on mobile it shows 13:38. Strange.
I feel like things like this tend to happen to older and more optimized speed run communities. Because almost every trick has been found, there’s no reason to be one of the people who looks for new tricks. Whereas when a game just released, like Mario odyssey when it came out, almost half of the speed run community are looking for any minor optimization they can find.
GOD when he says "son of a bitch" to that person warping through the cell... it just reminds me of that one vine where someone had built an enclosure for a baby rhino and it just walked through the bars
vErY dAnGerOuS! tHatS wHy wE bUiLt tHiS cAgE tO oH mY gOd!
I enjoy all of your content Karl, but for me, your Goldeneye coverage will always be the best.
Love seeing a notification for a video from you, everything is so well researched, detailed, and respected. Massive props to you
wait a second... I knew this trick, a friend showed me this like 20 years ago...
I am not following GoldenEye speedrunning much so I just assumed this was probably used all along... lol wtf 🤣
he claimed he found this trick all on his own because he tried to "look through the bars by sticking his head through" and apparently glitched through after trying this a bunch of times
I believe it, it's a simple enough trick that probably a bunch of people found it out by accident, or by figuring that they could try R-Leaning in different circumstances to see what would happen.
wait, so what you're saying is an important speedrun trick was "I thought everyone knew about it"-d into obscurity for 20 years? wowwwwww
I love accidental exploits like this. For the dragon ball fighterz game. It takes over 100 hours to get a certain trophy/achievement. While i was at home, I have very terrible slow internet. Becuz my internet was slow I kept getting booted out, but yet the bonus given by developers in certain days. Glitched and kept adding up. Netting me the achievement in 5 minutes.
thats exactly what this is. a lot of us used this trick just for shits n giggles back in the day. bunker 2 was one of my favorite levels
I like seeing both you and RWhiteGoose covering this new strat as I can see both of your approaches to sharing this to everyone. Keep it up!
Always good to see a video which is 13:37 long, thank you Karl Jobst.
Thank you so much for sharing this Karl! GoldenEye is one of my most cherished games of all time and will always hold a special place in my heart. It always delights me when you share any new information or strategies pertaining to this incredible game, and the quality of your videos makes it all the more exciting to watch!
These kind of video's are so fun to watch man, and i dont even watch speedrun's, the technical aspects of them are so fun to see video's about.
wow just lean into the wall the most obvious thing ever... biggest BRUH moment ever for golden eye
The swearing with Karl's normal inflection absolutely SENT ME
Enjoying the video as usual.
Keep up the good work, you absolute legend!
I absolutely love that. I love that there remains people so dedicated to this. Great video.
The funnniest thing for me is that I never played this game, i will never play it, but i have wached every clip from Karl for it. EVERY.
Sorry, Karl
We are NOT the legends - YOU are.
The man who inspired us to interest, watch, discuss, and follow every one of your videos for this game or any other games ....
Thank you!
HAHAHA! I LOVE this video! The whole part about something being so simple and missed was and amazing, and hilarious and shows that even with such extensive knowledge that little things such as this can be missed, especially with something is found by a regular player just having fun and not a speedrunner.
Might as well say this here. I only recently found your channel and I can not get enough of your content.
You have an incredible channel here, dude.
I love the videos man thanks for all the entertainment karl.
Its like the Barrier Skip in Wind Waker. A new look at something fundamental like treating the barrier like a clippable corner was the break that people were waiting for. Back to the basics
Weren't you exiled by pokemon fans or something?
@@ryuixyui "I have no idea what speedrunning is, but here is my opinion that is clearly morally superior to yours, entire community, god I feel so good about myself"
The problem with Barrier skip was the position of the gap. No one was even sure it was there. And preformance also was near to impossible if you do it blindly (there is setup tho, but it was found later).
@@asdbanz316 The main thing was the realization that the barrier had seams, no one noticed it but after it was discovered setups could be tried
@@ryuixyui Funny how you think all these "glitches" (which, at least for GE, are less actual glitches and more exploitations of the engine that are pretty much universal) will be fixed without any new ones coming up that may be even "worse" than these, according to your absurdly simplistic viewpoint (Battle for Bikini Bottom Remake, anyone?)
This is why I always take "Trust the experts!" with a grain of salt. Even the most dedicated individuals can miss the obvious for an absurdly long time!
There's a saying that goes something like "When an old scientist says that something is possible, they are almost certainly right. When they say something is impossible, they are almost certainly wrong."
Speedrunning isn't exactly a science
What a terrible take on this. No expert said anything about this. Absolutely trust the experts.
@@chaoswraith I'd say it's come pretty close
It is heavily based upon extensive study and experimentation as much as it is skill
My brother discovered that you can clip through the world in the Barnyard video game by jumping with the bike on an angle into the lake at a specific speed.
A quarter of a million views in 1 day. Congrats man! I love that your channel (a speed running channel) is succeeding! You've given a voice into a whole community. keep up the great work!
Yoooo congrats on 600K bro I love your videos!!
Just started playing perfect dark because of you Karl. This game must have been mind blowing when it released. The main menu going straight to gameplay is cool as
Ice
I played Perfect Dark back when it first came out. It was cool to get a spiritual successor to GoldenEye, and definitely one of my favorites, but you have to remember most of us had been playing PC FPSs like Wolfenstein, Doom, ROTT, and Duke Nukem for years by the time consoles finally got decent FPSs.
@@timewave02012 it blows me away how cinematic it feels. I'm not gonna lie I'm still lost in the first mission. Been gaming since diapers and I can't find my way through a N64 game.
Huh, it's been a while since I've checked in on The Elite. This passed me by. I'll have to have a gander at the current runs for PD & GE and see if there's anything else I've missed. Last thing I was made aware of was the OOB in Infiltration.
Another great one Karl, keep it up! Super hyped for your upcoming Boba skip video
Thank you for the update brother !
karl is such an absolute legend, when he calls you an absolute legend you feel like an absolute legend
And thats absolutely legendary
“Hello you absolute legends” is the highlight of the day.
Best ad placements of any video maker. Just amazing work, bravo
Really smooth job explaining the glitches here. Movement based glitches can be pretty technical but you handled it like a... legend.
This why I love speedrunning so much. Huge props to the community.
karl jobst warps into your house with a gun " hello you obsolete legend"
finally… always nice to see a new video pop up in my feed
Love your videos Karl! Keep it up!
Whenever I'm playing Goldeneye. I actually do the lean to warp up the Ladder and the wall from the pit. I am actually shocked others didn't do it too.
The buildup really emphasizes on how on the nose this should have been.
Karl you absolute legend. Thanks for that amazing video. It's really crazy that this warp was too obvious and not found earlier. Thanks for this great video again.
I never did a speed run or have played this game, but i love your enthusiasm and so I watch all of your Videos.
Karl Jobst is the only person that makes me feel like an absolute legend
Karl Jobst for feeling like an absolute legend. Sir Reddit for feeling like a ducking beast. Even though they're not true about me, I like to hear it.
My jaw is on the floor at that reveal. Also laughing my butt off.
When you said you re-visited your old 2000 video (10:20), I was expecting an "and then I discovered the new method", but it was someone else.
Amazing video as always!
Thanks for these videos. This was my favorite game growing up. I remember it taking me forever to get the cheat code off the 2nd stage. I remember, more than once, missing the goal by 1 - 2 seconds.
Any day we get called legends is a good day
Fun fact: these videos makes our days better
@@knn2240 TRUE
😂 i always enjoy your videos, Karl! Keep it up you absolute legend
Great vid like always, wouldn't mind trying to learn this myself.
I almost forgot i was an absolute legend, but i was kindly reminded in less than a second
This video is basically Karl descending into madness for 13 minutes because an entire speedrunning community missed a supposedly obvious trick for 20+ yeara
KJ, I'm happy for you to get the attention you deserve.
Comprehension and choice of topics have finally got people to take notice to what dedication and integrity looks like.
Bro your videos are legit amazing
I really enjoy the fact that each time Karl is talking about a discovery, he is mentionning the one behind finding out the trick. I mean, it should be all the time like this, I know.. But it's still quite rare nowadays. Thanks you Karl and thanks you Acadie.
the presentation of the history of this glitch made me burst out loud
You never disappoint. Love this channel.
It just keeps happening - you absolute Legends
1 dislike already after 1 minute of uploading. Must be Flowbee's revenge 😄
probably billy mitchell
I love how this game's framerate being comically inconsistent is the basis of one too many tricks in speedrunning.
I never in my life played GoldenEye, but goddamnit do I love it when you upload anything about the game. Already watched all the previous comment you put out throughout the years, keep it up Karl. Amazing work as always documenting the game, if even complete strangers to the community like me can follow everything, means you're doing something special. Have a good one love, and nice 13:37 video length :D
Great video. I love learning about goldeneye from Karl
Just when you think the game can't be speed ran faster than it all ready has then we find this. Speed Runners continue to amaze me
It really says something when a game from 20+ years ago is still being speedrun on till this day.
Great stuff Karl. Keep it cool, we got ur back on the 'stuff'.
i tried playing this for the first time not too long ago after watching a bunch of speedlore videos and it really opened my eyes on how incredibly difficult this game is, mad props to these runners that mastered this game