Celtics could REUNITE with Daniel Theis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- The Boston Celtics could potentially reunite with Daniel Theis this summer. Theis is an unrestricted free agent. The Celtics may look to add Theis as a replacement for either Luke Kornet or Xavier Tillman. Theis has played for the Celtics on two previous occasions.
Adam and Tim discuss a potential Theis addition before looking at other free agent options the Celtics could target during the summer.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:26 Daniel Tice's Potential Return
04:14 European Interest and Contract Considerations
08:01 Tillman & Kornet debate
18:39 Exploring Free Agent Options
19:13 Analyzing Andre Drummond's Fit
22:07 Analyzing Jackson Hayes Fit
27:03 Analyzing Mo Bamba's Potential Impact
30:45 Quick Fire: Yes or No on Remaining Free Agents
32:11 Final Thoughts - กีฬา
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Disagree with anything to do with Drummond. Have no interest at all in seeing him in green. I would take Theis or Mo Bamba any day over.
That's fair! I have some concerns on Bamba, but I also get that it's slim pickings. If Bamba is the best option, so be it!
Agreed. Makes mistakes. Cant space the floor or guard in space. I'd definitely take bamba or theis over him.
@@CelticsChronicle slim pickings for sure. Agree that Mo Bamba has his downsides too. They all do. But poor Andre is a massive traffic cone more than six feet away from the basket … a weak point too easily exploited for my tastes.
Queta. Is the answer
If he can shoot 3s and guard in space? Yes.
I like queta !! But joe gotta accept he doesn't stretch the floor but he's great in the paint and rebounding
@@MrKingmel not how the ofdense works. At least in the playoffs. Regular season, its fine. Playoffs, joe will play only those who can space the floor and guard the perimeter.
Theis is a great option for the vet min (based on whats out there) to replace 1 of luke/tillman if they leave. We need a legit stretch big off the bench to keep our 5 out. Not alot of those out there for the vet min.
My top 3 vet min bigs are:
1. Daniel theis
2. Dario Saric
3. Mo bamba (has some red flags)
Bol bol is tall but counts more as a wing than a big due to lack of bulk and big man skills (like screening). Trendon watford profiles the same way.
I like all 3 of those options, and agree, adding another floor spacer would be a smart decision - Boston's 5-out is key, Bamba is probably the best perimeter shooter of the trio you've named, Theis is the most multi-faceted, though
@@CelticsChronicle yeah bamba cant guard in space. Theis is the most balanced as he can shoot, catch lobs, set screens (best at this) and passably guard in space (best at this). Saric is the better passer. Bamba is the better shooter and rim protector.
IMO any big that cant shoot 3s, should be off brad's radar. Luke and queta didnt get time in the CF/finals. That tells you which skill sets are needed: shooting 3s and guarding in space.
What are the red flags on MO Bamba? I thought he played well in limited minutes with the 76ers.
I don’t mind this honestly , ☘️
Theis knows the system and can stretch the floor. Tillman is not a proven 3 scorer. I prefer Theis.
I've been thinking about this...Theis doesn't know this system. He played under Ime. Joe has made some major changes. His fit isn't clear-cut, imo
Tillman is better at guarding in space. Theis is better at shooting the 3. We can have both. I'd prefer theis to luke or queta unless those 2 start shooting 3s.
Daniel Theis pick and rolls and interior defense would be huge for the title defense.
True, Tillman defended very well on Luka.
Luke Kornet is Prey out there on the court he was being hunted in matchup situations every time.. He put no fear in the opponents
I like this. Last time the team was not as organized. Theis Will thrive.
If Theis can’t hit a consistent 3 at 28+ percent, I’d pass.
Hes shooting 37%. He is pretty good.
I say bring back Vitor Faverani. Big Al got a second chance and came out with a ring.
Man, I remember LOVING Vitor!
That's a throwback 😂
Yes, I would love Andre Drummond to be on the Celtics team.
Luke or X? I think it’s pretty clear the Celtics put X over Luke. Given the preference they showed in playing him in the playoffs. Especially in the ECF and the finals.
I like Theis. But I don't think he's better than Luke, X-man, or Queta. Thanks for the in depth commentary.
Yes but he brings something all 3 dont bring thats critical to the celtics system: he can shoot 3s.
Thanks for tuning in! And I thik I agree...Theis is a little older now, isn't familiar with the current system and may pop, or flop.
@@CelticsChronicle it would be cool if there are better options but the celtics hands are tied with the 2nd apron. Even with trades, my top 3 arent perfect fits:
1. santi aldama (dunno if memphis makes him available since they got Edey and are getting back clark this year).
2. Noah Clowney (young so brooklyn may like him alot as a piece)
3. Duop Reath (most realistic as hes not on portlands timeline, old).
I'd definitely consider trading springer for duop reath if we dont like theis, bamba or saric.
I like theis but i would hope we get xman first. If luke goes, im fine having him as a 3rd string center for a vet min. I hope queta gets minutes
Al, queta, xman, theis rotation while kp is out
I like luke but he and queta are redundant skillset wise. If luke is re-signed, i'd explore trading queta for a stretch big like duop reath.
@@TheRobversion1 yea. I think luke and hauser deserves to get a good raise. I wouldnt be mad if they get paid elsewhere. That’s why id love to see queta play when luke’s gonna leave. I do wish we can keep x since he’s a switchable defender
@@pableauredyellow i'm ok with either leaving/staying. All i want is thst if at least 1 of them leaves, we get a big that fits the system better (shoots 3s and guards in space, basically al horford clones).
I do expect the Cs to pony up the cash to pay hauser. Luke they'd let walk if he asks for too much. Same with tillman. Brissy and Svi wont be brought back to allocate the roster spot for baylor.
Im not saying i reslly want Drummond vut referring to his IQ, hes never been on a team/system that is functionable and will give him a set role. I think youd see an improvement in his decisions because he would know his role and it'd be small
They know what they have in X.
Jackson Hayes or Mo’Bamba I’d be very interested in if I was Brad
I didn't know Jaxon Hayes was a free agent? He is still young, is athletic to provide a lob threat, and can be a decent defender and shot blocker...just no shooting threat.
Man, Im European like you, more pressicely in the same time zone, greenwish, london Lisboa. I used to like theis, but at this point i belive he is the kind of player that In 82 games he ONLY plays great in two against US.i would rather pass. Remember: we have a team option with neemias queta. Keep it simple
The talk around Theis is just talk, nothing more.
You're probably right, tbh
XMAN & QUETA in LUKE KORNET out 😉
Bring back Bol Bol
No more Theis. Move on. Do better.
He is trash. Hope they don't sign him.
Theres not alot out there for vet min. My top 3 are theis, mo bamba and dario saric.
More Theis. Come on. He’s better.
Idk how you analyse basketball games but obviously you're poor at it.
Hope not
He was useful
I hope so. Need a stretch big and the pickings are slim. I'd take theis over bamba or saric.
Can you beat the Dead Horse of the Daniel Theis interest anymore?I mean, you said over and over and over that he might go to Europe for more money and a bigger role.But then again, he might stay here to win a championship.But then again, he's from Europe, he might go to Europe and on and on.I don't even care that much about Daniel Theis. I don't need you to beat me over the head with the same suppositions over and over and that's all they are supposed to be
It was like a 8 minute segment 😂 Appreicate you watching, though!
No Theis
Yes Theis.
Theis will not give the team anything from what it has now. Let's imagine that Boston goes to Denver in the finals. How to slow down Jokic? Porzingis Horford and Tillman likely won't be able to handle Nikola. He will push them (Porzingis, Kornet) or simply throw over them because he is much taller (Horford, Tillman) from the Lakers’ practice in the bubble and the finals before last where Tristan Thompson appeared on the floor, I noticed that big guys seemed to be in their time (McGee, Howard) and Tristana the year before, they did not allow themselves to be pushed through and score easy points. Theis has no strengths. He's not a good rebounder and slow on defense. As the final with GSV showed, he could not do anything against players like Looney Otto Porter And Green, after which they stopped releasing him altogether, another 2 years have passed since then, and by the next playoffs even 3. He hasn’t gotten any younger or better since then. As a result, I don’t think that the team needs such a player, who cannot give anything new from what is already available
Nope. He gives something the whole bench bigs doesnt have: he can shoot 3s. Which is critical for the celtics 5 out.
Not saying we should get theis but the type of player he is? For sure. Other 2 similar players on my radar;. Dario saric and mo bamba.
If you're gonna get Theis just for 3s, then might as well retain Kornet and give him the green light for shooting 3s. The dude shot the 3 pretty well in college. Rather have Kornet since he has better synergy with the current team.
@@Random-Stranger this is the hope so we can keep everyone but luke hasnt shot 3s well for a while now. Cs could also be banking on queta or tillman learning to make 3s.
What theis offers that the other 3 dont is he provides the 3 things the celtics need the most from their bigs:
1. Guard in space
2. Shoot 3s
3. Rebound
Luke and queta can rebound but not do the other 2. Tillman can guard in space but cant do the other 2. Theis does all 3. All 4 are good screeners so i'm not including that..
@@TheRobversion1 Tillman can throw them too. Only he can also exchange and defend on the perimeter. Theis is also a weak shooter, even Luke Cornet can throw them but only does it when necessary
@@Random-Stranger I completely agree.
It’s time to move on from Kornet he time to produce has came and went but he barely capitalized on his opportunities over his contract years.. So now it’s time to give Queta his full chance resign him not Luke
How tf are u sold on theis lmao
Not sure he fits in Joe's system. I do like his defensive versatility, though!
@@CelticsChronicle i disagree. I think hes a great fit. Theis does all of the things the celtics like their bigs to do (granted not an elite level):
1. Set solid screens
2. Shoot 3s
3. Move the ball quickly
4. Guard in space
5. Protect the rim
because theis is one of the better stretch bigs available for the vet min. And this is the celtics need. I'd argue he could be the best available.
Celtics dont play anyone who cant shoot or guard in space in the CF or FINALS.
Their is a tear jurk😂
Kelly O'lynyk would be a nice addition.
Not plausible. Hes out of our budget range. Hes at 12M and currently signed with toronto.
@@TheRobversion1Kelly Olynyk was a good Celtic but he's a walking liability considering his aggressive dirty behavior on court. A big who risks foul trouble and ejection is just asking for trouble. A center on defense is always on the radar of officials.
@@jeredalmeida1880 maybe tell the OP and not me? I'm not the one advocating for KO.
@@TheRobversion1 Hey maybe replying to you was a simple error. People do that sometimes. It's not that deep.
@@jeredalmeida1880 sure and i was just informing you. Not that deep either.
Luke or X? I think it’s pretty clear the Celtics put X over Luke. Given the preference they showed in playing him in the playoffs. Especially in the ECF and the finals.
@@davidbright8913 Kornet injured his hand in the earlier rounds - that's why he didn't play in the Finals.