Blood Bowl 3 Is One Of The Worst Game Sequels Ever Made (Broken, Unfinished, Recycled, Greedy)
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Took em 8 years to release a sequel that's somehow more insidious than FIFA Legacy Edition.
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Big shame right here, was looking forward to this. Least i can still recommend blood bowl 2 instead.
Just glad i never bought this and waited for reviews...
Edit this if I’m your favorite viewer
Thanks boss
Unsurprised, GW the owners of 40k, are a notoriously scummy company.
SINGLE USE COSMETICS??? THIS IS A NEW LOW HOLY SHIT
Single use cosmetics in a game with permadeath 🙃🙃🙃
@@silverhand9965 I was going to say single use cosmetics are not new but.... considering permadeath too... Okay yeah that's a new low. Honestly that is pretty impressive, I didn't think the bar *could* be lowered further
Like a Dragon: Ishin also has this. One use per one save. Want to play the game again? Rebuy the cosmetics
@@rudeboyjohn3483 hol up. one use. PER. SAVE?!
the fuck?
@@AcerSense deus ex mankind devided also did the same thing. So the only way to use them in other playthoughs was to create a save on the highest difficulty (incase you wanted to play at a higher one) at the beginning of the game. Then lower it to what you want, collect the dlc items, then play. For each new playthrough load the original save and repeat.
I bet the store works perfectly, the items won’t work but the buying part is flawless
Yuup, EA right there. I remember when a character in Apex was broken for 3 months: no attention. But once the shop was broken (it gave a free weapon skin by accident through some weird button presses), they immediately patched it in half an hour😆😆.
Crazy bs.
Actualy arch warhammer, was playing these game and the store diditn work, yes the online store doesnt wor, he couldnt even play the game of how bad the servers are
I'm astounded that it's going to be 3 months to even come up with a method of earning premium currency outside of straight cash. Pitiful.
Dark tide had this EXACT issue with the cosmetic shop working perfectly fine. Outside of the shop there were bugs galore, disconnects and outright server refusing to load a map. With a limited selection of maps with barely any reward for harder stuff then months of one modifier being extra dogs instead of power outages ect.
Not to mention the entire crafting system wasn’t implemented so you logged in hourly like a mobile games weapon shop to hope it had something you wanted and it wasn’t a shit weapon.
I got my worth out of the game playing and enjoying the psyker and bolt gun now I couldn’t give a single shit less as they drip feed fixes and finally put crafting in long after I got decent enough gear and burned myself out on the game.
But hey at least you could play that downgrade of a game compared to vermintide then we have this mess of bloodbowl.
It’s pathetic
Thanks for bringing this up. Huge fan of the tabletop but seeing Nacon's disrespect for the players is disgusting
The second game is pretty good
And their Warhammer 40k Diablo game is very good
@@Noctis-qe2dw reviews seem to disagree with that, and like hell I'm giving this publisher any money.
Aren't they the ones who screwed over Frogware (the Sherlock Holmes developer) over "The Sinking City"?
Check out Mork Borg man, my favorite TTRPG at the moment.
Nacon: "Cosmetics only show up for a day/week/month before you need to buy them again"
EA: "write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN!"
thats what asian f2p game did 20 years ago
Imagine if in THPS when you unlock Spiderman:
-You can only skate with him on one level
-You MUST use him within 30 days
-Session limited to 30 mins
-Spiderman cost $14.99
Bro this is exactly what we're looking at now.
And EA reanimated its desecrated corpse...
Now imagine if he glitched out half-way through the session....
This is what we have for being too accepting to awful monetization achemes and to no-standards. We get low quality cheap ass cash grabs for idiots. Kinda similiar to irl ngl
You must pay real world taxes on your Sims.
@nathanB404 AAA gaming has been dead for years, if not decades before then.
"This isn't a videogame with a microtransaction store, this is a microtransaction store with a videogame." Damn, that's a good one.
Remember, dear fellows: microtransactions in a paid game are NEVER acceptable
here's your obligatory "your just mad cuz ur poor" comment
Tell that to morons that can't stop themselves and paying for what should be free.
@@kalui96 you disgust me goat of the Antichrist why hate God so much
And all the suffering in this world is Satan's fault
Or :"it's just cosmetics, it is an option."
Absolutely pathetic
Too many don't care and love to get pegged.
It’s a shame that these type of gaming companies are losing their passion and motivation in making games enjoyable
They don't see it as games. They see it as 'product'. That's why they make it like a corporation do it: maximum profit with minimal effort, aka sending us a minimum viable product (sometimes not even finished one)
A true game developer would put out maximum effort in pouring their heart and soul to make the game of their passion. That's why modern triple-A game nowadays feels 'soulless' compared to indie.The former only pursue profit, the latter focused on finishing their game
passion? motivation? making a good game? are you crazy?
-EA executives
I think the PS4/XB1 generation is going to be the cut off point for gaming that still has a soul. Sure, it was also the generation that popularized the corporate anti-consumer practices & game design, but it's also offered us many quality games before they all became garbage live services at some point.
Now, live services, unwanted features, and gameplay-disrupting monetization are going to be and have been the default standard for which household franchises kick this disappointing generation off. A sign of things to come.
You'd think they'd learn from studios like Fromsoft, or hell, look at Indie games in general.
Actually, Hi-Fi Rush came out not too long ago and was a smash hit, and not a single macrotransaction, Battle Royale mode, BattlePass scam, single consumable costume pieces in sight and STILL made them money.
These games hit it off so well because they're *games first*, and still most corperations don't understand that nickle and diming every pixel is just a really bad idea? Watching them burn from easily fixable mistakes and never learning despite having plenty of monetary incentive to make damn fine games is.. a long but tired joke at this point. How hard is it, really?
I've heard this is the last game they have license to make this is them cashing out.
Can we all agree the live game service has lead the gaming world down a dark path?
Agreed.
It's historically true, so evidently yes.
Old heads like me been saying this for a decade at least now. The writing was always on the wall. Guys like me been getting called broke for years now.
The stupid public who support companies like this are enabling it.
No, let's not lie, it's the customers that have gone down this path. Everyone that said "I'm gonna boycott X!" and didn't, everyone that bought EA and 2K's yearly copy paste, we can't blame the industry, it's the people in these comments that helped this
Never played a Blood Bowl game before and the trailer looked good so I almost bought it last night. Was taken aback by the overwhelming amount of negative reviews when I looked at the ratings.
If you are interested in playing the game, get one of the completed Blood Bowl games like Blood Bowl Legendary Edition or Blood Bowl 2. You will get a lot more out of your purchase compared to whatever this is.
Imagine if the ratings were censored which does happen on some platforms under anti review dog piling “policies”
Dodged a bullet
@@vgfreak4life is there one you recommend over the other?
Blood bowl is great. I'd highly recommend getting blood bowl 2
You know, it's sad that i'm not at all surprised that they basically mimicked Games Workshop's greed and customer treatment here. It's as if Games Workshop literally said "look, here's how we fleece our customer base. Just follow this formula. can't go wrong. just charge stupid amounts, charge for everything, and spit on the fans. you'll do great" and it's exactly what should be expected from Games Workshop, so i always worry it will happen in GW video games too
DoW was the peak for gw games.
@@pinoarias8601 I still play both of the dawn of war games. I love the two of them, it's such a shame they never made a third one
The utter state of modern gaming
A type of gaming that I really hate.
AAA gaming. Indies are doing fine
@@KABLAMMATS meanwhile ignoring that retro games got shit sequels all the time lol
modern gaming is fine. there's still great games made by honorable ambitious legends, and there's always been shitty games made by incompetent greedy scumbags. people really do just strive to be as negative as possible.
@@KABLAMMATS hi fi rush was also great tho its AA.
@@KABLAMMATS those are droplets in the sea of dissapointments
It honestly feels like gaming companies are running after terrible practices shouting “Wait we can also be shit!”
Coming soon! Evil corporate game: race to the bottom. Featuring all the things that you hate about modern video games in one game.
What I think happened is that they wanted to implement a NFT system in the game but when they heard people don't want that, they somewhat changed it but not completely.
I really don't believe they didn't think about NFTs...
Yeah, the entire game was going to be NFT based to cash in, but when they took out NFT stuff there was nothing to cash in. So they just threw it out.
@@sabinekine2737 they'll just release it at this state anyway if they implement NFT
@@drazharr9773 Everything that NFTs claim to be able to do are already accomplished in video games. They are not the future but just money laundering scams.
NFTs are the new scam for the gaming industry, hopefully a lot of companies and more, users, will not fall into this trap.
@@richardpagel6959 WAS the new scam. It was so widely opposed it died before it took off.
You know, when Pucci talks about monetization being THIS egregious... Then maybe resetting the universe wasn't such a bad idea after all.
We don't need a reset, we need an exterminatus.
I'm picturing him filming from a room inside his chapel
Don’t forget that Stone Ocean takes place in 2011-2012 so Pucci saw gaming and become this way. Or leading this way.
Pucci also used CDs in the USB era.
Gaming is trying so hard to force this unwanted ERA on gamers but it’s up to us to make sure they fail but the whales make that so difficult
"whales" aren't the problem, don't blame-shift off the companies onto the consumers, it's what they want.
@@masterowl123 But whales are the problem. Companies make something, the consumer votes with their wallet if they want it or not. Stupid whales taking the literal one thing out of the consumer's hand to influence company policy aside from literally filing lawsuits or making laws is what makes companies go harder and harder into that direction since it's clearly the most profitable.
If no one bought that crap, they'd have to put effort into it. If all those idiots stopped buying the yearly EA sports shit, the games would long have become better programmed or just discontinued instead of this nonsense we have to deal with it now.
How are whales not the problem.
@@masterowl123 whales are most definitely a problem if whales didn’t dump there money load. companies wouldn’t still be doing stuff like this because they would be losing more money over time with word of mouth and people not buying the game or not buying the next game
@@masterowl123 Do you really think that tho? Its more of a 2 ways street imo.
Corpo keep pumping out garbage game that prey on the weaker mind because unfortunately it does makes money and whales being too stubborn, too ignorant or too willing to spent money they have for an easy sense of being superior to see that they're being used
@@masterowl123 The primary problem is management and investors, obviously. However, money speaks to these people above all else, and when whales spend a large amount of money on broken and unfinished games with shitty business practices, they see that and believe that more of that will work. While it is true that the vast majority of the blame should be put onto execs, always keep all variables in mind.
I became enamored with Blood Bowl 2 only 2 months ago and was excited for the sequel I never even knew existed.
To say I am beyond disappointed is an understatement. Can't even begin to imagine what longtime fans are going through in comparison. So far I've played a single match of the tutorial and the game straight up lacks in every way, even my ass can notice that.
It's also disgustingly evident that this game wanted to have something like NFT's in it before it was made clear that absolutely fucking nobody wanted them and they removed it with all due haste to replace them with somethng more 'digestible'. And I still am not tempted.
And the absolutely worst part? It was my friend who gifted it to me because she noticed I was excited. I am so sorry.
If you’re a fan of Warhammer and especially fantasy you’re used to getting shat on.
Just refund it if you still can
Ouch. That sucks it was a gift as now you’ll feel guilt too!
I’m a long time fan and I’m beyond disappointed. Been looking forward to
It for ages and then we get this insulting pile of crap
How did you see that they planned to include MFTs?
Yeah, imagine waiting like half a decade for BB3 and getting this monstrosity... My disappointment is immeasurable, and my month is ruined.
It's pretty cool that they were able to capture the GW pricing model in video game format
Next GW will make model paint that dissolves over time just like the limited cosmetics in this game…
lol
@@justaguyonyoutube4592 GameWorkshop the owner of the table top game this video game base on
@@justaguyonyoutube4592 games workshop
@@justaguyonyoutube4592 Games Workshop. They make Warhammer 40000 and Warhammer Age of Sigmar and a bunch of other games people love but get fleeced by the pricing model.
Man, these developers are really trying their hardest at worst business practices of the year award.
Management not developers
@@sircosmo21 Stop the cope, the devs made the game. The devs choose what company to work for. Time to hold the whole industry accountable and stop giving these garbage devs a pass.
Spend $20 to add all the cosmetics to your star player
He dies after tripping trying to move one space too far
😮
@@sircosmo21 The developers implement them, they don't have clean hands in this, the opposit
@@mihailcirlig8187 who do you think tells them dumbass, developers don't wanna put that shit in games it is management
I still remember the first Blood Bowl that came out from Cyanide. It was so bugged and so poorly managed... There was this patch, for instance, that went live and apparently they forgot to turn off some kind of "debug switch" that caused all the players in the opposing team to just stay still turn after turn. So they used that switch to be able to test skills and whatnot against still players without having to worry about dodging, etc, and they just forgot to turn it off before releasing the patch... And that's just an example of the lack of care and quality of the game. Sad to see the team hasn't learned their lessons after 14 years...
And they had the nerve to say this is the way and they’re proud, yeah I’m proud too, proud to never own another one of their games 👍
This is the general trend of everything Gamesworkshop in the past decade. “Please, bankrupt us and put us out of our misery.”
A round of applause for Nacon, which just showcased how the Fifa/Ea Sports FC series can become even worse than it already is.
And now im slowly gonna keep expectations very low about Nacon and their next game, Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown.
Fucking Nacon, man they fuck up Blood Bowl 3
You have to buy new jerseys for your players every game otherwise you can't field them
I saw disastrous big releases in my life, but DAMN... This is a new low.
It's weird that every MTX game like this that has these issues never seem to have a problem with the monetization part of the game. Like imagine buying stuff but a glitch/bug makes it so you got it for free.
Because the in game shops are the first things made. Not even as an exaggeration
The microtransactions are the product they're selling, once that's complete and functional, they try to make a game with the time and budget that's left
There actually is a problem with that even. There has been talk about a bug that will delete the cosmetic items you paid real money for if the player wearing it dies or is fired
@@silverhand9965 whoops they ran out of budget REAL early with this one.
@@christracey5813 it doesn't get deleted, it gets applied to a ghost player. Since it isn't a real character you can't view them or get into the menu to take the cosmetic off, but it's not deleted and you are still shown as owning it
@@goober312 aka working-as-intended.
I'm glad totalbiscuit didn't get to see this. I know he really liked this series.
Really? Unfortunately TH-cam recommended his channel to me after he passed away 😔 will check his channel to see of he still has gameplay on it or something may he R.I.P
he will be dead again bec of all this bs in gaming
My philosophy that has worked for me for the last decade. Don't buy any game for, at least, the first 6 months. You'll never get scammed
I only do exceptions for indie titles after a little bit of research.
An example would be BG3 by Larian
Yup and never, ever pre-order either. The more pre-orders, the less incentive there is on the publisher/developers to ship the game in the best state possible.
I pre-ordered a game... I wasn't scammed... even though I hated the game. *Sigh*
It was another sequel game... I encountered 0 bugs, it worked as intended. My problem with it... the developers removed everything that was unique to the prequels to just make a Diablo Clone. If you love Diablo... then you would enjoy that game... if you loved the previous game... then the 3rd one is not for you. Which is sad. :(
@@matthewhinkel6079 50% off and you'll probably get some free downloadables, too 😁
@@aralornwolf3140 All of that would have been avoided if you hadn't bought into a lie. You see how this works? You wait for the game to come out, see it isn't what you was expecting/hoping and move on. What you did was basically bought a car thinking it would be an exotic sports car for the price you was asked for only to see the car you bought and it is a rusted out 30 year old Ford that still runs but isn't the 60,000$ you paid for. This is why pre-ordering is bad and you should avoid it in the future.
Hell yeah, ready to enjoy YongYea tearing a new one into this game I've never heard of
Haha! Me too 😂
Lol same
Gang gang
😆
Stuff like this really makes me glad I mostly play single player games, feel like aside from a few massive duds from time to time, single player focused games have been banger after banger after banger. Not even to mention the insane amount of great single player indie games. I think I can count the games I felt like a mistake buying in the last 5 years on one hand or something.
Meanwhile, it feels like playing multiplayer focused/based games is walking through a minefield with blindfolds.
single player games are often unfinished too tho. like all the recent bethesda games, borderlands 3, cyberpunk, sims, no mans sky, mass Effect Andromeda,final fantasy 7,hogwarts legacy on pc, and all the recent pokemon games. sims 4 was even supposed to be multiplayer but they changed it to single player.
Blood Bowl 3: Paid more for less.
Thanks for covering this game/story! I was so excited for BB3 and on the first day I played I was playing against the AI (Single player) and got disconnected from their server and lost all progress because there is no reconnect or saving. Very sad!
Refund.
EA - *”You’ve chosen to challenge us? Challenge accepted.”*
We're missing a feature that you only play once per day
to play more, give me your dollar.
"Pay per Match"
- The Culling
Yup. that bastard invented "Consumable VIP Character" monetization
They don't have chance if they think they can beat EA in greed and scamming players.
HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSION OLD MAN?!
No matter how many times users express their contempt for microtransactions, the publishers can't seem to get it.
Enough to beat EA’s dead horse
Old man: I love the young people.
@@MatiasFeliciano1 it's all about casting out a net to catch the whales. Even if everyone hates the micro-transactions, if they can dupe some rich idiot into dumping a ton of money into it then it's worth it to them.
@@MatiasFeliciano1 Because a lot of the people who complain buy it anyways. That’s why Madden can make the same game every year and it can still sell like hot cakes.
I bet at least 90% of the dev time have been focused only on the in-game store
That title would fit so many AAA games from the past 5 years
That single-use customisation transaction is quite clever when you look at it through the executive's eyes.
Essentially, someone will buy their favourite item for their favourite character, and they'll think to themselves, "Ah but it's only one time so it's okay" but then they start to like how it looks, they'll want it again and for more characters.
That's where you fall; you want those items to make your team more unique, because the majority of people have become spoiled by player customisations, and you start to hate how bland and generic your team looks.
About a year later, you've probably spent nearly half a grand, maybe twice that, just on those measly cosmetics (It's not uncommon and undoubtedly not rare). Now imagine that times roughly 100,000 people (We all know it's far more than that, it's just a small example) in every country (within reason, of course, I doubt Greenland has that many Bloodbowl fans), you're looking at a nice steady flow of millions of dollars, so that's a hell of a profit.
Seems a bit far-fetched doesn't it? Well, let's take a look at one of our old, reliable culprits; Activision.
"Activision-Blizzard reported a new record all-time high of $5.1 billion in microtransaction and subscription revenue in 2021." I wonder what their revenue from 2022 looks like...
That's a lot of people forking out money for something that just gives you only the tiniest dopamine fix, but it's still enough to make you crave it again and again.
If you've made it down here this far then thanks for reading and apologies it's such a long rant, I wish I could reward you for such a hike but all I can say is, please just take it easy with the online purchases, think to yourself; "Do I honestly need this for such a broken game? What will I get out of it?" Think about what you could save up for in the future, or even the possibility that, if you refuse those microtransactions for so long, you may just change the future of gaming for the better.
Once again thanks for reading, hope you all have a grand day and next time I'll try to reduce it to a single paragraph
Well said!
Everyone just needs to refund and delete the game. It basically was never made, and some can't face that fact.
@@ThisisnotTwitter I only wish they could face reality. Sure, games in the past weren't exactly clear of bugs and poor mechanics, but my god, it wasn't this bad
Elsword is more terrifying and it's scary how this form of MTX is starting to gain popularity.
Now imagine this, but that your players can permanently die and you lose those cosmetics you gave to that one player.
Good thing I got Blood Bowl II with all dlcs on sale on ps4 for $3
A niche game supported by a truly great and passionate community…
Devs/publisher: LETS RIP OFF THE FANS THAT MADE US WITH MONETISATION THAT WOULD MAKE EA BLUSH!
So many games go this way now a days, it's getting to be just expected. They've done it ladies and gents, they've lowered the bar.
My first exposure to blood bowl was with a total biscuit video. Goddamn i would do a blood sacrifice just to hear his opinion again
Sometimes I feel like he was the only one holding back the companies from this sort of thing
Gaming is under attack by greedy corporations.
It's been 23 years...
@GiRayne no its definitely just greed, It can exist in any kind of system.
Ah, 2023 the year of unfinished games. Blood Bowl 3, Sons of the Forest etc... can't wait for more.
Mandatory "Blood Bowels" joke
That's not a joke twas bloody shitty
Lol yours is good as well
I'd never heard of Blood Bowl prior to this video, but your introduction made me actually Laugh Out Loud. I instantly saw the appeal in the game and while I don't think I'd enjoy playing it, I'd love to watch a friend play. So seeing the developer scuff this sequel up this badly is very unfortunate. Hopefully they don't pull a Blizzard and forcibly kill off the previous version (a la Warcraft 3: Reforged).
EA Madden: Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary.
I have made a video (in french) and I have an explanation of this disastrous launch : all the lead and game designers of BB2 are no longer part of Cyanide. I have looked to their LinkDin and all of them have quit the company for years. Result : the entire game design's team of BB3 is new and instead of conserving all that worked in BB2, they have try something different and they have made a double skulls !
Bonjour. Thanks for your insight that explains a lot of the game.
Merci
Tell me what's the reason that the new team decide to do something new was because they didn't know how to reuse and redesign any BB2's assets or that cyanide didn't want them because doing so wouldn't hurt their "bottom line"(In the eyes of publishers, you can't make a good profit when your game is made up of recycled stuff from previous games)
We've gotten to a point where not only can we be kept from playing single-player games without an online connection (Suicide Squad for example), but you can't even pause a game? Seriously?
probably important to note who Games Workshop is, their history of price gauging and greed and rushing products, look at the storm around the release of one of the new 40k Race, The Leagues of Votann and it being completely unfinished and unbalanced, it doesn't just extend to their video games, but physical products and books. Darktide could have been great, so could this... Lets just hope 40K: Rogue Trader isn't ruined... Atleast it has devs with a good history behind it (Owlcat Games)
The Leagues of Votann are the prime example of GW having zero faith in it's fanbase; loads of people loved the squats (apparently, I'm not one of them), so you'd think GW re-releasing them with updated lore and designs would be a slam dunk.
But just to make sure they hit their sales targets, they ship them out with blatantly overpowered rules so the tournament players and tryhards just lap it all up.
Beta community feedback is not used to make a better game, its used to control the spread of valid criticism.
Nah, beta is nowadays judt advertisement.
The cash shop is especially egregious. This is where “cosmetic only is ok” has lead us.
Cosmetics are the most tempting thing to purchase because the gamer thinks "It's just something to make me look cool so that I can show off how awesome I am." or "I can't have the default stuff because I'll look like I'm a noob." so they spend the money and then they would usually feel buyer's remorse soon after. Saying they won't buy anything again, but....
Angry Joe showed me this he was pretty pissed off
ive been waiting for this game for years it makes me want to cry that its so bad every time they delayed it i was so sad but i kept thinking "the wait will make sure its going to be good!' so so so sad, i dont even care about rehashing some of the same stuff i just wish the bloody thing worked and had the new rules
Watched Northernlion play this, and he had nearly half an hour of just trying to get the game to play normally lmao
If you pre-ordered this, you're part of the problem
Yup. Pre-orders incentivise this kind of thing, and they incentivise unfinished games at launch. People should NEVER hand over money when they don't know what the final product will be like.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. You're entirely right, but the people who are part of the problem will then call you the asshole for telling them how to spend their money. Because it's 2023, and you can't tell people to use their brain for five seconds these days.
I know the three of you will retaliate and say i'm basically one of the people you say are part of the problem but I think I need to explain the fact for quite a while pre-orders were so problematic they did what they said giving the game and extra stuff on top it's been a recent problem with them however that companies while not outrightly lying don't tell the truth either simply withholding the full story I suppose but you should see the point. Also as for the people they just remember a time when pre-orders delivered on their promises and hold out hope for the companies maybe it's misplaced but not everyone is cynical.
@@Theprince034 You are part of the problem, yes I agree pre-orders used to be worth it (if you wanted to spend the extra cheddar) for some cool bits with your game and now it is more of a "We offer them barely anything and then they are trapped!" but that is still you buying it, they are not forcing you to buy into bad games through pre-orders. I get what you mean but your whole angle is "It used to be good but now it isn't" SO STOP DOING IT. That is why people like those above call people like you out, you STILL pre-ordering IS EXACTLY WHAT LEADS TO THIS SHITE.
@@fish5645 well you proved me semi wrong I figured the three would’ve been the one to say I’m part of the problem never crossed my mind about other people but ah well. I must however say that while they aren’t forcing you to to pre order their game I’ll reiterate some people aren’t cynical they do believing and sometimes there are companies that do keep to their promises and there are those who don’t there’s also there people who be a bit naive but and it’s always sad to see them face the reality of their situation. Also I do need to say this but I myself don’t pre order often as I’m a rather patient individual I just decided to say something as the four of you are being unnecessarily harsh to the people that do
This game has every modern game standards in it. A perfect modern game.
When I saw the game footage, I thought my monitor color balance was too desaturated until I realized it was this game...
Wow, could you imagine what must've been going through those executives heads when they came up with these ideas? They really thought people would be down for this. They really thought they were about to make a ton of money.
They must've been frothing at the mouth thinking of all the things they could charge players for.
A single, one-use cosmetic.
Now THAT’S shady.
Slimshady.... don't associate the likes of me to these bastards!
@fallout the window crazy My apologies, Marshall!
This makes me so sad. Blood bowl 2 was a big part of my childhood and seeing it ripped apart and destroyed like this is awful
You gotta love that they put out a statement on the state of the game and in it they say "We know we won't win everyone back cause of our MTX, but we believe it's a fair system."
Fair?
Taxi drivers Meanwhile
Roman: Nacon YOU'RE A BITCH!!!!!!!
Other taxi drivers: stop insulting us our system is a fair fare YOURS is horrifying
The sheer lack of awareness. It's unreal.
idk they might be correct at the same time. many people are so addicted to this IP that they may just make more.. I mean MOST the keys for bb2 were fraudulently obtained so they lost all that money while they keys are being sold for a dollar on all grey sites and have been for years. And im assuming they dont know how to distinguish the keys because they never did anything about it.
Timed MTX is the reason why I don't play Elsword anymore.
Like, you have to pay to get the cosmetics which are also somehow armor that can be enhanced and can also be destroyedin battle and no matter what they break eventually because of time-out
Well at least Elden Ring DLC is on the way.
Not a fan of souls like games but I’m looking forward to resident evil 4 remake and star wars jedi survivor
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Irrelevant
Yawn.
4:30 AngryJoe's face says it all.
Glad to see you cover this, it's an infuriating release for such a niche game/genre.
8 years in dev. 3 to research how to manipulate player. 5 for developping the micro transaction system and 3 weeks to make the game.
This game is a prime example of something that needs to be hacked, pirated, taken apart and rebuilt as a fan project without asking for any publisher permissioons...
This is a fascinating example of predation and greed. It’s shocking how bad this is after so much time.
These people will not enjoy their next life... They make this one miserable for everyone.
This feels like the development of the game didn’t went well trough COVID, the company was in dire need of time and experience, but the publisher had no intention to continue funding so they released a “squeeze every penny” version of what was done until then.
Truly, the world would be a better place without publishers.
The industry is completely out of control. Video games used to be about the art and players. Now all of these companies are 100% anti consumer and would rather release a worse game if it meant they could cram more microtransactions in it. Sad sad times.
wow they really stole that answer sheet from EA and didn´t even bother to slightly change it up
Blood bowl 3 remind me how much I love blood bowl 2. The old graphic actually make it few more table top compare to the update graphic. Also so many missing feature as well as missing teams that was introduced as dlc in 2. Also as a chaos worshipper they mess up with the mutations.
They also heavily nerfed Bash teams. claw is a joke, piling on is replaced by a worse skill and they made throwing the ball even harder for them. elves are still strong if not stronger even.
EA: lootboxes!!
BB3: hold my single use cosmetic!!
Destiny 2 way, way ahead of BB3's devs...Destiny 2 used to have single use shaders for colouring gear items. That changed, but unless it's also changed now, they also have/had single use 'transmat' effects since the start...spazzy effects installed into your ship that alter the way that your character spawns into a location...people have a lot of ships and once installed on a ship that transmat disappears so you can never use it elsewhere.
This will never stop until consumers become as cold hearted as the publishers and stop spending a single cent on this garbage. (I dont have high hopes)
Games Workshop allows a greedy game? What a shock considering they sell plastic, unbuilt and unpaited minitures for hundreds of dollars.
Sounds like I'm sticking with BB 2 and Mutant Football League for the time being
Nacon, huh? Gollum's publisher, Nacon? We should have seen this coming.
It astounds me that games can be given as much development time as red dead 2 but feel like blatant cash grabs
The game didnt get 8 years of development time, it's a sequel to a game that was released 8 years ago. The developers have made 9 other games in that time not including two annual sports titles.
@@mediumvillain Each rockstar game is built from scratch, with features from previous games added in, have you seen the alpha for any of Rockstar games?
@@Youraveragegamer_97 the person you're responding to is clearly talking about blood bowl, not red dead. Rockstar barely knows how to make one game per decade, let alone nine.
The thing that really breaks it for me is the always online part. Like, in time, most of the other bugs and issues could get sorted out but i doubt the always online part will go away.
I honestly had a really really low bar for BB3, all i really wanted was BB2 but with more customization... hell, i'll even give it that i'd accept dlc cosmetic packs (unlocks, not one-time uses). I'd settle with not getting anything new, even improved graphics was something i'd give a pass.
Naturally, i was going to give it a few years and wait for a big discount before i'd buy it but that doesn't matter now.
Well at least today we saw Final Fantasy 16 gameplay, which looks good, and Elden Ring announced dlc.
It's the genuinely passionate developers I have sympathy for. We can easily give money to indie developers instead.
I often forget that almost none of the big corporations in the games industry are decent. They're just different shades of evil.
Never played any of the BB games, but this is another example of modern gaming releases. Obviously, it isn't every game that gets released in piss-poor quality with egregious monetisation practises but, as customers, fans are spending a lot of money on these products, which people are stupidly justifying the increase in prices. This is one of many reasons why I'm not as much of a gamer these days as I were about 10 years ago.
I was excited for the game. It's really sad to see so many games coming out like this. I use to think that with technology getting better we would get even better games than the ones we played as kids, but i forgot that despite technology getting better, humans in general are getting worse.
Eh, humans are getting better too. *ssholes are just being awful in a more public way now.
Man it seems not a week goes by without another broken ass release
As soon as bloodbowl 3 became on the steam page for wishlist, I did it though I didn't buy it right away due to me being cynical about stuff like this. I made the right choice
I've been working on a video about this, so I'll come back to this video when I'm done with it, but I'm absolutely devastated by this game. It was beyond heartbreaking for this to release how it did
I actually remembered to come back 😂
It just boggles the mind how these gacha/monetization mechanics, coupled with a rushed, bug-filled job, make for a good business plan. It doesn't, yet we keep seeing it happen year in, year out. The uproar it causes among fans and casual players should be lesson enough on what not to do, but companies seem to still make bank somehow for them to ignore it and not care. They just move on to the next scam, reputation be damned. Make it make sense.
The sense is the BILLIONS of money this rakes in. It IS a successful business model.
@@ArDeeMee Only this game clearly isn't selling at all. Right now there are just over 1000 people playing this heap of trash on Steam. Forspoken performed so badly their studio was collapsed and absorbed into Square. This USED to make money bit I honestly think it isn't working anymore, people are wising up to the scam and are not falling for it anymore.
@@fish5645 We can but hope.
There is nothing worse than watching a beloved IP get completely butchered for the sake of a quick buck. Nothing is sacred to these companies.
There is something sacred to these companies and that thing is "The Almighty Dollar" and they "Worship'" that above all else.
8 years? Nah this a 1 year development game lol
Wasn't expecting Blood bowl 3 to be ground breaking or changing the format of gameplay since its based on a miniature game from games workshop. And the miniature game's 2nd edition wasn't very looked at fondly, lot of aspects like the elven union, recycling team players is from the miniature game. I don't mind the microtransactions, as it'll likely be 1/10 what it would cost for little doodads for games workshop miniatures. I'll likely wait later on before buying this game, like I did with Blood Bowl 2.
In what universe would you want a cosmetic you can only use once? WTF?!?!
Me and my friend was looking forward to it. We were going to buy it on release day, but we quickly changed our mind seeing the reviews
You should watch the Angry joe reaction about this Bs , it was glorious .
Oh did he do a reaction. This I must see indeed.
He’s literally watching AJ’s reaction in THIS video
I'm a Blood Bowl fan. Love the physical game, loved Blood Bowl 1 and 2. There is legit no way I'm ever going to sink any time or money into BB3.
OG Bloodbowl is such a good game. ❤
Ah, played it since the early 00's. Good times have been had.
Not in BB3 tho, that's just not fun.
I share that sentiment but I still want to believe that in a year or so it might become an actually playable and viable game and an actual successor to BB2. Right now it's just a bad joke.
Unfathomably Based.
Unfortunately stupid people continue to buy microtransactions. They think buying one cosmetic or other digital garbage won't make a difference. But it encourages the greed we will control see in the game Industry.
Yikes! Good to know, looks like we will be sticking to Blood Bowl II for the foreseeable future.
Right!? I was super looking forward to this new one as a big fan of the previous two... Not anymore.
Oh i remember this! Blood Bowl was made by people who wanted a proper successor to Mutant Football League, but that series was owned by... _checks notes_ ....Electronic Arts. Hm. Funny that. Just like Calisto Protocol, the problem doesn't actually seem to go away when ex-EA higher ups move onto new projects. Also Blood Bowl 2 had an offensive number of DLC packs for any game let alone a spiritual successor type one, and after having godawful performance and basically unplayable on console was just left to die. So yeah, not a new problem by any means.
Great way to lose all your fan base after all this years
Eh, they two of the Biggest BB TH-camrs in their pocket. so it'll stay and grow. I know I watch them and they sing praises.
Wow. To think I got into this game series because of Totalbiscuit. I can’t even imagine how irate he would be over this
He would be completely Livid and it would be one hell of a watch. o7 to a great reviewer and an outstanding fellow.
Sometime you just wonder, who on earth in the company of game like this will give the OK to launch the game in this stake lol