Jim Cornette on Dave Meltzer's Relationship With AEW
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- From Episode 161 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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His covering up of the Matt Hardy incident was the final confirmation of him being paid
What did he say?
@@SuperWrestlingtime He downplayed the severity of it and basically put the blame on the doctor and hardy completely.
@@moralesharold87 you got to be kidding me I thought Matt Hardy was dead what would have happened if he died
@@Kas58223 Maybe a little bit more accountability.
@@moralesharold87 I didn’t hear his comments on the matter but I heard he also consistently brought up WWE’s past concussion issues too as a way to kind of steer the conversation away from AEW‘s blatant negligence, did he actually do that?
Dave's basically spent his entire career on the outside looking in. Now there's a company run by guys that idolize him, and he's clearly not able to judge it without a huge bias. Just look at how he reacted to the Matt Hardy concussion versus the way Bryan Alvarez did on the same podcast.
Also, I'm not sure how he ever gets anything done because he apparently spends 90% of his time on Twitter tracking down people to argue with. Most of which don't even at or mention him.
Searches for use of the letters "a", "e" and "w", regardless of context
I can't listen to Dave talk so I missed this. What was their different reactions?
@@Rudy04 he downplayed the situation. He wouldn't say a bad word about Kahn, or anyone in charge. He tried to put the blame on the doctor and anyone else not named Kahn, Jackson, or Rhodes.
Beautiful 😊 Spot on 😊
it's storylines just as goofy on WWE but for AEW he'd praise it and WWE he'd say it's terrible, but it's both goofy angles like the cinematic matches. It's a clear bias.
Meltzer has to be getting paid. Nobody is this biased for no reason.
I've been convinced he's being paid for months now, and it boggles my mind how that's not obvious to everyone. From the way he blatantly gives all AEW matches 2 stars more than any similar WWE match, to the way he always tries to blatantly spin every single bit of criticism or every single mistake AEW makes in an objective light, to the way he spontaneously jumps in on random Twitter conversations to defend AEW for no reason, to the way he's constantly blabbering about "demo ratings" and finding these weird obscure stats like "AEW just broke their own record of most watchers per household" and posts them like they're somehow supposed to be news.
Either Dave's being paid by Khan, or he's figured out his subscriber base consists of 100% AEW fanboys who want to hear him say nice things about AEW and would cancel their subscriptions if he started saying mean things about them on occasion. Which isn't at all better, cause that just means he's an UNPAID shill instead of a paid one.
But it's 100% one of those two options. Nothing else makes remotely any sense. Dave's favoritism towards AEW is so blatant, he sounds like a PR rep rather than a critic or a journalist.
If you ever get bored, listen to Wrestling Observer Live when Meltzer is on it. He says incredibly stupid sh*t and argues with Bryan Alvarez for the sake of being objective-defiant. I love it when Bryan yells at him.
Yeah there are. I mean look at console fan boys and elite pc gamers.
With this logic Jim Cornette is getting paid by democrats.
He's the de facto marketing man for the company, course he is.
"The second least-good match of the night"
Dave is like the guy in school who was hated by everyone his age so always hung out with the younger kids because he was cool to them. The real wrestlers always hated him, but the new generation of cosplay wrestlers love him so he sticks with them.
Yea I don't know many wrestlers that respected him when wrestling was in its prime. Well except maybe Bret Hart because Dave did many stories about the Montreal screwjob siding with Bret. But most only had contempt for him.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Uncle Dave loved Bret. His style of work is almost a complete 180 from what is displayed in aew, which makes me wonder when Dave decided he enjoys the video game matches and Corny ass comedy acts.
@@SpaceGhost92 yea read my post in the talkbacks about it
Every one was feeding Dave information at one point or another.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 damn LOL so true
Tony Khan is a great booker and the AEW is a great product, I know cause look at how many four star matches I have given their shows.
- Dave Meltzer
Lmao
Is this the same Will in the 411 chat
@@jasonfisher3823 yes
Damn lmao so true
Dynamic Dave
According to Dave's Star system, the Young Bucks are the greatest of all time. More 4 star ratings then Bret Hart, Steve Austin, The Rock, Mr. Perfect, Rick Rude, Macho Man, etc etc. Dude is out of his gourd and clearly insane.
@@HOBaRT_ Meltzer is old dude and he watch wrestling since territories day. Dont tell me he never see enough of old school wrestler
@@HOBaRT_ what are you saying man. Most of those dude did five, eight, ten shows a week sometimes.
@@HOBaRT_ bucks work twice a week lol. Gtfo.
@@HOBaRT_ Am sorry what
@@elsieoliver1671 Fact
Dave is not only a parody of himself, but has taken on the sentient form of the Steve Buscemi meme. "How do u do fellow kids?"
Don't talk ill to Dynamic Dude, he is rad to the core.
@@RandalfElVikingo lol
👏👏Perfect.
Funny you say that i expect people to send Jim doctored gifs with Daves face superimposed over Steve's
Crazy Eyes has a meme? How did I miss that?
Just notice that Dave goes after Jim for his thoughts on AEW or indie guys, not WWE.
Jim is easy on WWE to be fair.
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 Lol no he isn't
@@nohbuddy1 He must have missed the review of the Firefly Funhouse match, or the brutal running down that the Garganos get regularly...
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 nah. Only difference is that Jim doesn't have nicknames for WWE talent.
@@ishoottheyscore8970 Or the Titan Towers match...
Dave was on the Jericho cruise that they did Dynamite from in January. Bryan Alvarez wrestled singles matches with Marko Stunt and Jungle Boy before they were signed. They are friends.
and he also had a match with Orange Cassidy
Yeah that’s why alverez won’t shit on them because he’s wrestled them and still wants too!!
@Shaw Powers It's not about wrestling, it's about making money
Yeah but Alvarez has also teamed several times with Tom Lawlor. I just think Bryan likes to cosplay.
I really tried to give AEW a chance. I really did. But I couldn't get past:
1. The absolutely silly bullshit (like the battle royal, their first match on their first show)
2. The constant high spot style. I like to see guys working a strong style of wrestling and telling a story.
3. The contant in-jokes that are strictly for internet wrestling marks. It was cool in the attitude era, but that boat has sailed.
4. The fact that they pay and use Marko Stunt, Orange Cassidy, Joey Janela, & Sonny Kiss.
I'm tired of typing, but you get the gist.
For the record I'm a 34 year old man. Many of these talents are my age, but I feel totally disconnected from what they're doing.
@@-BigMike- age has nothing to do with talent . These clowns just can't wrestle and have 0 experience in wrestling
@@-BigMike- I'm 30 and I also have the same complaints about the show. I want to feel some pride in watching wrestling. Instead when I watch AEW I just suffer and endure.
Half their roster shouldn't look like a normal person could take them in a fight
@Jt Money Thank you...
Dave can like whatever he wants to like, but that doesn't make it good.
I truly believe he's being paid off. The bias is comically huge
I tweeted to Meltzer a few days ago - maybe a week ago. This is the full exchange:
Meltzer tweeted: "If something in wrestling does significantly better than expected when it comes to interest levels in many different ways, it's probably beneficial to examine why as opposed to deny it happened."
I replied with: "Does this include having the most prominent reporter in the field constantly pushing an alternative as better (when that's questionable), to a sycophantic fanbase? That should be examined then too, instead of denying it's happening, right?"
Now, I didn't think too much about it, since it was just a flippant tweet - I didn't believe Meltzer is on the payroll of AEW (that's the company I was refencing in my comment) - like Brian Last, I believe that is the style he likes the most. Meltzer did reply to my tweet, I didn't get a chance to read it, since I don't live on Twitter - but I did see it. When getting some time to reply, I had found it had been deleted. Now I do wonder.
TL;DR story: I tweeted about Meltzer being looked into for AEW ties, as a joke mind you. He replied, then deleted it.
You caught him in his bullshit.
Meltzer’s rating system is the only reason Omega & The Bucks initially gained success in ROH & Omega. Meltzer ratings made people look for those matches. Now it is a freaking joke!!
I used to think Dave really just liked the AEW product and that is still part of it. But now, I do suspect there is more to it than just liking the show.
I rarely complain about star ratings but when a random street fight on AEW TV gets 5* over Kyle O'Reilly vs Finn Balor which was hard hitting and an awesome match, something is seriously not right.
If Meltzer didn't have the bias he currently has, he probably calling aew TNA 2.0
@@misterfaiz9678 TNA was much better
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 in the beginning, then they hired hogan
The situation turned for me after the Matt Hardy head-splitting fall incident. Dave danced like crazy to avoid criticizing the company on the post show audio. It was embarrassing.
Its like when your super shy/nerdy friend whos always single finally gets a girlfriend and will overlook any bad quality of theirs just because she likes him.
Cornette is the most entertaining form of wrestling in the last couple of years.
Dave is happy to send texts to Khan everyday. He's happy to be friend with a billionnaire. He feels responsible for AllIin, so for Aew by extension, he's part of the club, the family, the project. He's a kid in his mind, he couldn't be more happy. He makes dwarfs relevant and the dwarfs circus athletes goblins make him relevant. He feels responsible for the success of the bucks, Omega and many other wrestlers of the young strong style/doing flips with no psychology generation thanks to his stars & awards beloved by the marks, the hardcore fans, the last fans remaining in wrestling that he helped to brainwash. It was not hard since they were not very bright.
Meltzer thinks he's Howard Kossel(?) to their "Muhammad Ali".
The Ahmad Rashaad(?) to their "Michael Jordan".
@@darrengordon-hill Oui oui. He's what Don Lemon can be to JB. Tucker to DT.
@Jt Money I lost you, poor baby, you're lost. Call your mama. Many matches are inspired by a japanese/Indy style where you're reckless, you make dangerous, useless moves to get a pop instead of using psychology with a safer style. And the dangerous style often doesn't even look real. Preposterous. Darby is close from a strong stupid style because of the disregard for his own body, because you gotta make it real and you don't know how to get over so you actually do shit for real. People died in Japan because of 'working' not safely. People injured their neck. They shorten their carreer, they shorten their life to get over with the marks, to get virtual stars. Omega can work comedy and a ddt style but also a njpw strong style. Same for Mox who loves unsafe matches. What i'm talking about it's not knowning how to work, not knowning psychology, not knowning how to sell, not selling moves, putting your body through hell, doing dangerous stuff instead of working. Doing acrobatic & idiotic choregraphed sequences that don't even look real and that are dangerous. People falling on their head left and right, thousands of dives. By strong style you can englobe everything that is wrong in the way of not knowning how to work safely. Aew shows are full of useless dangerous moves. The examples are endless.
His friend isn't even a real billionaire.
He's just the spoiled son of a billionaire.
Wow Gooner? Didn’t expect to see you in Cornette’s TH-cam
3:58 The guy who does the thumbnails is just epic. Love the Tony Khan & NDA lmao. Jim with the dynamic dude Dave Meltzer prescription.
Haha. Jim's probably right. Dave used to be the voice of the smart marks out there, now he's just your average shill.
We all been know he has a hard on with AEW just like he was all on WWE during the attitude era dave is sad
I’m still convinced Dave Meltzer is on AEW’s payroll especially because he’s buddies with Omega and the Bucks.
Why is this so difficult to confirm? Can’t someone just go through the records - I doubt it will be money under the table
@@adrianjtarrant if it was a publicly traded company it would be easier because it would like.y have to be disclosed but aew is a private company so it’s impossible to know unless someone confirms it or something is leaked. Personally I think it’s a combination of his ties to omega and the bucks and likely is getting paid by tony khan as well.
@@spidey2885 If he isn’t getting paid that is sad. No PR firm on earth does as much to try to sway opinion as Dave does for aew.
All you need is a trench coat and a cigar.
@@SpaceGhost92 totally
Everytime i see Dave Meltzer riding a skateboard as the "dynamic dude" makes me laugh so hard that i can't control it xD
Why would they need to hire Mike Tenay when they have Jim Ross, Arn Anderson, Dean Malenko, Tully, and Jake Roberts??
Makenko is there as well? Shit i always felt that dude was hugely underrated.
@@Jubei66666 not the only one he had that no nonsense style of wrestling
@@Jubei66666 I also respect "Stinko Malenko".
“Stinko Malenko”
From The Man with 1,004 holds, Chris Jericho.
😂😂
Deano Machino
“Drink a bowl of Valium Soup...” god I love Jim LMAO what a gem
Now I'm thinking about the scene with Steve Buscemi in Not Another Teen Movie for Dave Meltzer. "Word up fellow youths".
Steve Buscemi wasn't in Not Another Teen Movie. That scene was from an episode of 30 Rock.
Dave is a huge fan of the Japanese style of wrestling and whilst there are some elements of that in AEW, it’s clearly an inferior product to NJPW - NJPW takes wrestling so seriously and traditionally they don’t even have a women’s division. Dave seems oblivious to this
Um, Dave’s a bigger fan of PWG. Who was in PWG? Only the young bucks, omega, chuck Taylor, lucha bros, pockets, Excalibur, PAC... pretty much every major PWG wrestler not named daniels, Owens Cesaro or Zayn is in AEW.
AEW is just watered down PWG. The most irritating argument I hear is AEW tries to be like new Japan. They don’t try at all.
@@roodboy606 bro, Omega is trying so hard to be like NJPW. He’s just a weird SJW so also wants to combine that with a strange indy Japanese women’s division. The bucks want it to be like PWG, because they were lame side shows in Japan
Definitely yes
@@REVOisMYname new Japan doesn’t even have women wrestlers so you just contradicted yourself right off the bat. And Gedo was always there to nix all his stupid DDT/PWG ideas where in AEW he doesn’t have such oversight.
Hardly. Dave's a much bigger fan of NJPW than AEW. He criticises AEW far more often.
Meltzer never had principles. He just wants to be involved in a business he never had any business being in in the first place.
Cornette just didn't see it because he used to feed him info and they were "friends"
that’s “Iron” Mike Tenay boys
Absolutely nobody can convince me that Meltzer isn’t getting handed money under the table
Couldn't agree more with Jim. Anyone who listens to his podcasts will see that Jim criticises WWE/NXT every bit as much as AEW, he just notes they don't do the same amount of idiotic/embarrassing stuff. He also praises any segments that make sense, are produced well/performed well, irrespective of the company. Meanwhile, Dave will have barely a word to say about a good NXT, gives a constant negative spin to anything WWE-themed, and jumps to the defence of some of the most ridiculous AEW segments imaginable.
Any journalist (and I am one myself) that goes on a boat trip that stages a company he is supposed to be reporting on is sacrificing his integrity. The way he guffaws over the All Elite comedy is also flat out embarrassing - listening to him recap it is like scratching nails on a chalk board. And this from a journalist who was once considered the best in his business, and who Jim has consistently praised over the years for the quality of his factual reporting.
If you enjoy AEW, good for you. If you like WWE/NXT, great. I personally like NXT as it's semi serious (but not without flaws itself) and can't abide the rest. But as a journalist you need to be able to take a step back and apply the same critical standard to all products. On this, Dave fails. He is entitled to like what he likes, but dumb comedy on one show is dumb comedy on either show. And 900k (on a good week) viewers for a show that contains former multiple-time WWE champion Chris Jericho, former WWE champion Dean Ambrose (Moxley), and guys who have been in the upper midcard of WWE for years like Jack Swagger (Hager), Matt Hardy, Luke Harper (Brodie Lee), Goldust (Dustin Rhodes), Cody Rhodes, Rusev (Miro), The Revival (FTR) and so on... is not some staggering, "changing the business" performance. NXT has how many ex-WWE stars on its show consistently? Finn Balor, yes, a former Universal champion, Breezango, a lower card tag team, and now Ember Moon? Am I missing anyone? Yet Dave jumps on WWE for occasionally using a main roster talent on the show, like the Sasha Banks/Charlotte appearances earlier this year, as though it's somehow unethical. Ultimately, AEW, with a swathe of ex WWE main roster talent, is beating a developmental show by around 200k. And this is the business we should all be paying attention to?
Wake up Dave. It's a ridiculous television show, with a niche audience that is nothing like the sports-based product it promised to be. It's not an alternative to WWE, it's WWE-lite. It's the 2020 version of TNA. Let's hope one day... one day... some "real" competition gives fans who no longer watch Raw or Smackdown (and that includes me, for the last two+ years... and I watched them previously for 25+ years) a genuine alternative.
Dave going on the boat isn’t such a issue, BUT going on the cruise and telling people you didn’t pay and got it for free is another as then your not really gonna crap on it or they won’t have you back next year
I TOTALLY agree about the star power thing you said, I’ve been saying the exact same thing yet AEW hardcores don’t get it and just go garganos a big name coles a big name ciampas a big name...... yes they are in the hardcore wrestling community to the wider audience they are no one ( harsh but true )
I love when they go having sasha bayley rollins or someone come on NXT for a one of “isn’t NXT”
I just point out that while on the network orton too cool RVD cena Batista and even the demo god himself jericho have all been on NXT
They don’t get that basically Jericho moxley cody dustin hagar FTR Matt brodie jr tazz Schiavone all have a wider audience pull
It’s basically putting orton AJ rollins USO’s Jeff ziggler Micheal cole the king all on NXT full time..... and if they did NXT would win every week
@Shaw Powers Classic trolling by the "not a wrestling nerd" reading comments on a wrestling TH-cam video 🤣👍
@@peterlee6374 Spot on!
AEW is consistently goofier than WWE every week and Bryan and Dave go on their show every week and talk about how awesome AEW is...
A part of me believed that maybe Meltzer was bumping up AEW to maybe convince WWE make some changes, but the more I see and read of Meltzer I truly believe he's got a handshake deal with AEW to make them look amazing when it's fucking terrible
I'm also curious if some Wrestling TH-cam channels are paid by AEW. Like Wrestletalk for a while had all their video titles something like "More WWE Controversy", "NXT Stars Not Happy", "Vince Mcmahon Losing It", etc. It just seems like they tried to focus only on the bad of WWE and NXT. Then from what I've seen in general they give AEW a 4/5 rating during the week. I know the titles get them views so it makes sense, but there seems to be some favouritism there for a "news" channel, at least more than they used to be. I may be wrong though, I try not to look too far into it because wrestling these days is subjective of course.
What culture are 100% on the payroll.
Wouldn't be surprised, given the rise of "comic tv/film" review channels, they're likely in some way funded by Disney/DC/Marvel.
Billionaires have several "subsidiary/shell" companies to move money through - and good PR doesn't create itself.
Many of the bigger TH-camrs have "management teams" they work for, so why not Khan create one for wrestling....
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that thinks that
I used to love wrestletalk, but I also noticed that bullshit and now i cant watch even their show reviews
People may read what you're saying and think "this is a dumb conspiracy theory", but I think there's a lot of truth to it. When AEW first started, several wrestling TH-camrs were invited to the tapings. They were vlogging the whole time. It's one thing to go there and cover an event because you're a journalist. It's another to be courted by the company and made to feel special. You're more inclined to promote them positively after that. One of the TH-camrs was even asking for a job on his channel. His name was Sherwood (?) or something. Short, chubby guy who does a Talk Soup style show. Anyway, I saw a lot of kiss assing going on within the TH-cam wrestling community when AEW started.
Meltzer has lost credibility a longtime ago
I remember when Dave used to shit all over the WWF for having a younger audience & not being skewed more towards adults. Now he's AEdubs boot licker because they wOn a CeRtAiN DeMo
Meltzer wasn't had credibility since working a short stint late 80- early 90 in the WWF. Hence knocking them now.
Someone who doesn't give a or their source or sources has NO credibility.
Noel Rosado exactly
@@dirtmcgirt8269 I remember those days. Good memory.
My biggest problem with AEW, of which I am a fan, is the way the women’s division is handled
It was ridiculous when AEW started mentioning uncle Dave on there show
Didn't he say that one of the Young Bucks is the modern-day Bobby Eaton?
The artwork 😂😂 More Travis "Bickle" greatness
You give me the stuff for free I would never buy your shit
Meltzer was on wwf payroll in 87 so it's not surprising.
Thank you. Of course Melter is getting paid. He did before. Why wouldn't be now?
No he wasnt
Last nails the issue at 14:50. It has nothing to do with what the ever-shrinking pre-existing wrestling audience thinks. It’s about the fact that for two decades now wrestling has done zero to appeal to people who aren’t already watching it. Normal people.
Uncle Dave might as well be officially employed by AEW
Watching Uncle Dave's downfall is like seeing your own father going through his midlife crisis. Trying to hookup with your exes and posting shit on TikTok.
The dynamic dude🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣..oh I haven't laughed that hard in awhile, thank you jim
I love when Jim gets Dave all worked up it’s the best
I liked how Brian pointed out on how a real wrestling fan or someone who doesn't watch or doesn't believe in wrestling...wouldn't like AEW show. Because it's absolutely true.
I wouldn't show AEW to any of my friends that used to watch wrestling. Or to any person that dislike wrestling in general. Cause they will hate it even more after watching this crap.
Most of it lately has been bad, but i would have shown a friend Double or Nothing 2019 (avoiding the pre-show! ) ....
So he admits that wrestling fans wouldn't like it and people who don't watch wrestling wouldn't like it, but still somehow claims it's good and a viable product? For the niche market of 'wrestling fans' who don't like wrestling?
Hailing from the young bucks treehouse in Sacramento California, representing the southern California kliq The dynamic dude, Dave meltzer!
I've long argued that Dave Meltzer is on the AEW Payroll because he's way too "AEW Friendly" and will go out of his way to protect their image in coversations.
Glad Jim Cornette thinks so too.
I truly believe that Dave realizes that the future (if any) of the buisness is young talent and the future of his relevancy is young fans. He wants to stay hip and cool. Rock critics went through the same thing when grunge came around. However, whereas that revolutionized the music industry and inspired a generation, wrestling these days is the equivalent of a local band with two drunk groupies that follow them.
Last time I was this early, McIntyre was being outshined by Heath Slater and Jinder Mahal in a stable
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
@Nathaniel Baxter so because he’s good, he didn’t shine next to people worse than him. I guess that makes sense.
@Nathaniel Baxter simps for Drew
@Nathaniel Baxter you mean like the time Goldberg was on a prank show wearing a magenta feather scarf and a tiara? Or the time he let Goldust put a long, blonde wig on him? Or do you mean his comedic cinema role in The Longest Yard?
Please refresh my memory.
CM Punk once said “things could always be better in the WWE” to Luke Harper
Maybe it’s time we start applying that phrase to all of wrestling
Dave Meltzer has proven that Dave just hated WWE wrestling this whole time
He was pretty hard on TNA when it was basically just those 2 in USA.
I suddenly think of the time on The Simpsons when Mr. Burns dressed up like Jimbo to try a swindle Principal Skinner out of the money from an oil reserve found under the elementary school.
I genuinely thought Dave was on their payroll after their 1st event with the way Cody took him up on his bet on Twitter
Dave leaches off anyone that makes him feel part of the business. WWE wants nothing to do with them, while AEW talent invites him on cruises.
I don't blame Dave if he wants to be up on AEW. Certainly it isn't like you could be any more down on it than Jim is! But he GENUINELY seems to have convinced himself that AEW is going to overthrow WWE in the same way WWE did to WCW. Based on completely stagnant ratings. The only way they'll do that is if WWE's numbers keep dropping and they meet AEW on the way down
Or if something happens to WWE like what happened to WCW, and a wrestling-hating exec threw it off the air.
I love how when they(dave/aew marks) mention the ratings they fail to bring up that is vs the developmental show. They arent vs Raw like WCW was or even smackdown ffs. It would be like if Impact had talked up about how they had better rating vs OVW back in 2012 or somesuch.
@A Lakonophile to be fair neither is wwe
I'm liking that the clips have more Brian in them recently. Always interesting to hear!
Does Dave even have the number of readers needed for his opinion to even matter?
4:17 Jim is the most well-versed Luddite in all of social media. Kudos for the Reddit reference right in middle of verbally re-stacking DM’s Jenga blocks.
I don't know guys, when I was at FyterFest, my main impression of Darby Allin was this goth looking heavyset woman screaming LET'S GO DARBY even in spots that wouldn't warrant chants. I think she also did it when he had long since cleared the ring for the Shawn Spears chair botch.
Travis Heckel you genius.
AEW might have some kind of "Kompromat" on Uncle Dave. Maybe they have tape of him getting an 80's wrestling stat wrong.
Dave is another case of the reporter becoming the news. Hell every episode of 83 Weeks has Bischoff going off on Dave Meltzer's old coverage. I think Dave needs to take a step back.
Meltzer and his sidekick Alvarez haven't been needed or wanted since the early 90s.
If Jr can't get away with talking about the female wrestlers how is it Meltzer gets away with blowing the boys?
Cause the die hards of AEW blow Dave already. It's nuts
Also Brian’s take on watching AEW with people removed from wrestling for a while seems true. Got back into it after 5 years just because I’m enjoying watching BS play out and understanding the context behind the business more. Haven’t seen anything that kept me glued to the tv in AEW since seeing the Dustin/Cody match. I wanna love AEW but it’s giving me TNA Impact circa 2007 nostalgia at the moment. A ton of potential with a ton of missed opportunities
They paying solomonster, too. Dude never has a bad thing to say about them and shreds wwe, good bad or indifferent
The painting of Jim Cornette as this grumpy old man that just flies all the handle off the time is really ridiculous. If you listen to these podcasts, I'm sure you would agree that he is perfectly capable of being calm and rational.
If I were to start a wrestling company, I sure as shit would try to get his advice.
Sounds like someone is trying to stay relevant at Corn's expense.
Cornette stays relevant at everyone else's expense. A parasite.
@@thomasdavis3765 Definition of irony
1a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning
b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony
c : an ironic expression or utterance
2a(1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result
(2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity
b : incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play
- called also dramatic irony
3 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning
@@TheEvilHumanist lmao you just made my day.
@@thomasdavis3765 not really everyone else still working in a wrestling promotion and making money and getting exposure on tv network and jim is not working for any wrestling promotions at this time and their freedom of speech, he can say what he wants then up to the people if they want to listen to him the people made their choice
Hate to break it to you, but Cornette talks about Dave Meltzer far more often than Dave Meltzer talks about Jim Cornette.
Here's the thing: For whatever faults or inexperience the AEW management and talent may have, they are (as Bryan points out) finding success with the specific audience they're targeting and not really trying to grow outside of that. TBH I can understand why they find it annoying to be repeatedly judged by a standard they're not even trying to meet while simultaneously ignoring the fact that they are successful by their self chosen standard.
It would be like if you were running a pizza place and people criticized you for not making hamburgers. There may be more potential money in hamburgers, but that still wouldn't be what you were trying to do.
Dave might actually be on the payroll. The wild conspiracy theory is starting to seem possible.
Mike Tenay probably looks at AEW and says "what a joke" lol I think Meltzer is on their payroll. As much as I loved that parking lot brawl with Best Friends vs Pride n Powerful, that was probably still my favorite match in the company on Dynamite in 2020, the Orange Cassidy coming out of the truck and then Best Friends getting picked up by their mom afterwards was horrible. Roman Reigns/Jey Uso to me was more enjoyable because it didn't have that goofy aspect to it. It was a pretty good match and had a good story to it.
For what its worth, very sad when people who have been friends for a long time, stop being friends.
The 30 second AEW commercial on tv is enough for me. Tables,flips,tables,dog collars,tables,ladders
Vince Russo is better than Dave Meltzer
In the film industry movie studios will make movies that only appeal to the voters for the Oscar's and not for regular film goers called "oscar bait".
Wrestling unfortunately has wrestlers having matches not to appeal to regular fans but to the Meltzer...shouldnt we call some of these indyreffic matches "meltzer bait"?
Meltzer ALWAYS jumps into conversations on Twitter that have nothing to do with him to give his two stupid cents worth.
He’s definitely not getting paid. If he was giving as many 5 star matches as New Japan, maybe. AEW is just PWG light. And Dave loves PWG.
Sammy Guevara’s TH-cam channel used to refreshing until it morphed into BTE2.0 in 2020
Who cares about meltzer
You know he is the king of dirt sheets and podcast of pro wrestling. But ahhhh now anybody with a smart phone can do what he does. So yeah uh the market is flooded with Mark's and wanna be journalists and trolls spreading rumors.
@@SAM-ru4vx He was never the king of podcasts lol Stone Cold is the one that made anyone in the business and Dave to have a podcast.
@@RandalfElVikingo star ratings and wrestling observer hof was done in audio form for years before podcast one became popular.
Ya know. Like that time meltzer decided to vote kurt angle in his hof when he was still in his 30s and still active in wwe. You dont see NBA voting lebron james into its hof when he is still playing for the lakers.
@@SAM-ru4vx meltzer voted for angle to be in the hof while he was still 5 years in the business? Wow
@@SAM-ru4vx You arguing Kurt doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? Dave just said that Kurt was an obvious HoF candidate (and he was right).
"Don't speak to me in the third person." xD
Wow Brian love how you got so worked up over Jim
To what Brian said about the AEW live audience, I was at the AEW dynamite in Chicago around Thanksgiving 2019 and up in the second deck three hipsters tried to start a FRESH-LY SQUEEZED chant for Orange Cassidy.... and it failed miserably. There's some hope out there
Should have known a damn Rock and Roll Express reference was coming
@Jt MoneyI was meaning that he always brings them up in these clips...is that better?
They drew money and actually sold tickets.
I too have been wondering why Dave gets involved in other people’s Twitter exchanges when he’s not tagged or mentioned. It’s too much.
Travis with an amazing thumbnail per usual
I've said this several months back, I like Corny and I like AEW, But Cornette critiques AEW already. I think AEW could benefit from Cornette being a consultant the last great pro wrestling company in the U.S. had a little bit of everything for everyone. WCW was that and Cornette is smart with finishes with storylines with talent, I mean Cena,Orton and Brock all came through OVW at the same time.
I think he already is......
"I'm chapping his f@cking lips and burning his f@cking crotch without even talking a word about him!"-JC
I Love Jim. 🤣🤣🤣👌🏾
AEW is not a success......If Tony Khan was told before AEW started on TNT that their ratings would be 700k or 800k per week I'm sure he would of been disappointed.
To be fair dave never had taste to begin with and he does get money even if they dnt pay him. I mean they shout him out etc free publicity. One way or another he gets paid.
When you watched the attitude era it had you hooked you could just binge watch episode after episode but now you struggle to get through a 3 hour raw
Alot of people don't like what jim says, but hes usually right most of the time. People use to rally against Jim when he shat on Joey Ryan...look how that turned out.
4:00 The Thumbnail 😂😂😂
Omega/okada was given 6 stars and it wasnt 6 stars, it was maybe a 4. Id have to agree with Jim, i dont get what anyone sees in kenny Olivier or fingerbang magee, whatever were calling him now.
@Jt Money well yeah but thats just like your opinion man.
@v b a 5 star match is supposed to represent the epitome of what a wrestling match should be. The build-up to the match should have selling power, something that makes you think "i cant miss this" and they definitely had that with okada/omega.
The reason i cant even give it a perfect 5, much less a 6, is because there were too many moments where i was disinterested. The match was a drawn out mess of high spots and typical strong style moments.
I know wrestling is subjective but i think Bryan Danielson has had better matches than kenny omega has. If you havent seen him vs claudio castagnoli(cesaro but with long hair) then its worth your time.
@v b well to each his own.
I think Omega is slipping Meltz the D
Just rename it all elite meltzer because it’s as if everyone from khan to the fans want to impress him and only him
I haven't watched AEW in about 8 weeks and catch WWE here and there but I listen to Cornette multiple times a week!
Jim even tho AEW marks dont like him must realise he's on the take