Jim Cornette on Dave Meltzer Being Upset With Jim's Comments About The Observer Hall Of Fame

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  • From Episode 358 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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  • @steveogden5774
    @steveogden5774 3 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    Al Snow once described Dave Meltzer as "the greatest worker in the history of wrestling" on the grounds that he'd made his living out of professional wrestling for decades without ever having wrestled, not having the experience to be an expert but still conning people into thinking he knows what he's talking about.

    • @8Bitorbust
      @8Bitorbust ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Al Snow is the man. Yesterday they were talking about Marks believing in new words Meltzer was making up.

    • @SLAPTALK
      @SLAPTALK ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Here's a new phrase for you:
      GUARDRAIL HUMPERS ⛓️🤩🎫⛓️

    • @8Bitorbust
      @8Bitorbust ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SLAPTALK HA!!!!!!

    • @heatherduncanfamily5531
      @heatherduncanfamily5531 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brilliantly said Sir...always wanted to like and have liked Dave but truer words have never been spoken.

    • @danbarry8909
      @danbarry8909 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The interview where Dave had to explain his rationale behind his star rankings kind of obliterated his cred as an analyst and exposed his deeply held biases.

  • @Ted_Bell
    @Ted_Bell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    Dave Meltzer has been totally exposed as a bias fanatic. Saying things like the Bucks are better wrestlers than guys like Savage and Rude. John Moxley is the next Stone Cold.

    • @johnstahlman9767
      @johnstahlman9767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      He also would bash ECW for things AEW does.

    • @jpacampara21
      @jpacampara21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      He gets tons of money from AEW's subscribers now man

    • @85nxplosion
      @85nxplosion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      If Jon Moxley was in the WWE still or any other promotion outside AEW. Uncle Dave wouldn’t even acknowledge Moxley’s existence along with Jericho, Cody, and many former WWE talents.

    • @karikarisworld2693
      @karikarisworld2693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Did he actually say that. Embarrassing omega young bucks to name a few are AWFUL. Spots n botches finger pointing

    • @rosybuddy28
      @rosybuddy28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well in that case I am the queen of England.

  • @MrSpeed-lt8gr
    @MrSpeed-lt8gr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    Meltzer has caused both Jim Cornette and Vince Russo to hate his guts. That’s some talent right there.

    • @jasons2023
      @jasons2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      That's the only thing that JC and VR likes about each other, even if they don't admit it.

    • @markmallone7484
      @markmallone7484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      And Bischoff.

    • @joshuabrown5123
      @joshuabrown5123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He's the best heel in wrestling!

    • @soclib
      @soclib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And Herb Abrams...

    • @michelledavidson8190
      @michelledavidson8190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That would be like bringing Trump and Clinton together lol.

  • @seebee6804
    @seebee6804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    Pretty rough times in wrestling when the hottest feud is a wrestling journalist and a former manager

    • @matta6761
      @matta6761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Says more about how entertaining Jimmy is tbh lol

    • @bradpaton3927
      @bradpaton3927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Corny when'll you challenge old "Uncle Dave" to an "I Retire!" match?

    • @CatsClaw44
      @CatsClaw44 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂🤣

    • @dragoredrox7493
      @dragoredrox7493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Former manager, talent manager, producer and writer. Lets give him the in industry credit he deserves.

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@dragoredrox7493 And promoter and booker.

  • @BrandonMobley614
    @BrandonMobley614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    "Do you think Uncle Dave needs a dog? If he had one and named it clue, he'd have one." - James E. Cornette

    • @kjpierson1152
      @kjpierson1152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I need to be able to upvote this 3000 times.

    • @ryaneglinton8970
      @ryaneglinton8970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@kjpierson1152 I need to start using this in conversations.

    • @RafaelSantos-di5yw
      @RafaelSantos-di5yw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How do you even come up with that stuff hahahahaha

  • @jmsnrs716
    @jmsnrs716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    "Poor Uncle Dave. You think he needs a dog? If he bought a dog and named it Clue, then he'd have one."
    Absolutely brilliant.

  • @JerichoJigsaw
    @JerichoJigsaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Dave Meltzer has a Kenny Omega obsession. Its almost like a school yard crush at this point. Omega has had some good matches but, HOF worthy at this point in his career? Definitely not.

    • @chrisortiz8072
      @chrisortiz8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly from this generation of wrestlers in general feel like I've seen some good wrestlers such as orton so on but no one really feels hall of fame worthy. I guess we can go through hall of fame and say that about a few people in general

    • @el-youtub3r402
      @el-youtub3r402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      he's gargling omega's ballsack

    • @kingrobthegreat7446
      @kingrobthegreat7446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree. Omega is a great athlete but I dont think he is that great. Some wrestlers in Japan got a good match out of him and I really enjoyed his match w/ jericho.
      But everything else isn't memorable. I once saw him get tagged in during a tag match, punch his opponent, then tag back out the nxt second!! Talk abt lazy......

    • @TheSportsfan35
      @TheSportsfan35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @DiosDorado, Exactly right I mean there's no way I would put Omega in the league as Harley, Dory & Lou Thesz.

    • @TAXie-ck7ed
      @TAXie-ck7ed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cornette's just as obsessed over Omega, so it probably evens out.

  • @guy1091
    @guy1091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Dave is acting like these AEW wrestlers by worrying about every single thing anyone has to say about them.

    • @thesupervisor3270
      @thesupervisor3270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah lame

    • @pauladams1915
      @pauladams1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ?

    • @packpock4369
      @packpock4369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They have some talented guys. Its not like he says AEW is the complete shits. Omega is a niche. He's not mainstream. He has made wrestling look like a joke. He's an actor, he plays wrestling. For people to say he's the greatest wrestler. Yea to the niche group. And even still.

  • @horrorstew3577
    @horrorstew3577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    The observer lost all credibility long before this !!
    The fans of Dave's generation think he's lost his mind !!

    • @forumcelebritypodcast
      @forumcelebritypodcast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      when he went years giving most of the awards to Japanese wrestlers and not Austin, the Rock, Steiners, Road Warriors show's his bias.

  • @TheWill1225
    @TheWill1225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    So retired wrestlers didn’t vote Omega in, historians had him eighth on the ballot but he got in based on reporters and whatever other current people in wrestling who read the newsletter voted him in and people told me last week I was out of line for saying “that Omega being in Dave Meltzer’s HOF is the very definition of a circlejerk”.
    Given who voted him in and who didn’t, it proved my point pretty well.

    • @DJSexualChocolate
      @DJSexualChocolate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      1st among reporters, 7th among historians and n/a among retired wrestlers....and THAT gets him in? Thats a joke

    • @kurtjarvis2447
      @kurtjarvis2447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DJSexualChocolate well said by the way what has Kenny omega done to get anything

    • @TomClacy5871
      @TomClacy5871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@kurtjarvis2447 Careful. Indie nerds will tell you that his NJPW stuff is merit alone

    • @kurtjarvis2447
      @kurtjarvis2447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TomClacy5871 thank you for the warning they would probably have him on mount Rushmore

    • @Hoffanheim
      @Hoffanheim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you for saying this. How can someone be in a Hall of Fame based on a 3 year run in Japan and it isn‘t even proven if he is a real draw or nott.

  • @jenisia3600
    @jenisia3600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Dave is as sensitive as most the aew marks. Jim living rent free on them. Why do they bother with what Jim says? Is it cause he's mostly right and it hurts them.

  • @vipy4309
    @vipy4309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Why does Dave think he's the mayor of wrestling, he never got in the ring.... Corny is more of historian than uncle Dave.

    • @nooneinparticular5273
      @nooneinparticular5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Well, because up until he started so aggressively dying on the hill for AEW at all times, he kind of was. A 5 star rating was thought highly of, his reporting, even now, is usually pretty spot on, his historical knowledge is near encyclopedic.
      Then he gave Omega a 6 some star match and he just gets worse and worse every time he opens his mouth.
      He earned a lot of goodwill and built a major platform, now, unfortunately, he is misusing it to piss all over what wrestling should be by praising the sorry state it currently is in.

    • @MrNurgle
      @MrNurgle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha mayor of wrestling...

    • @ZeroShaneBob
      @ZeroShaneBob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nooneinparticular5273 maybe he loves wrestling so much, and sees how far downhill it's been going, so he's trying to use his platform to over hype modern wrestling to grow its audience. Just some speculation.

    • @CleezyanaJones
      @CleezyanaJones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He makes his living off wrestling. He’ll never admit when it’s in the dumps or needs help. That is bad for his business. He sells the fact that wrestling is hot and wrestling is now. He can’t say this shit sucks or he loses money. It’s simple really it’s self preservation

    • @nooneinparticular5273
      @nooneinparticular5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ZeroShaneBob I think you're half right. He is definitely cashing in all that the platform he has built is worth, but in order to try to grow AEW, not wrestling as a whole. I think he does genuinely likes this and now has convinced himself that wrestling is going uphill again.
      I say that because of how aggressively anti WWE he is, while being so aggressively pro AEW. Even when WWE does something right, he tends to downplay it, meanwhile even when AEW shits the bed, he says things like "The second least good match."
      His interest seems to be to push AEW and the indies and, for whatever reason, he seems to be hellbent on using his platform to ostracize and push to the fringe the opinion that what AEW is isn't even close to the best that wrestling has ever been.

  • @TheMagnificentMongoSlade
    @TheMagnificentMongoSlade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Observer voters have discussed how Meltzer primes the voters with his editorials, match ratings, AND the category he was placed in.
    So challenging the validity of it is reasonable

    • @patrickdepew4976
      @patrickdepew4976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yea, that's a bunch of b.s. The only thing he should do is break down the candidates by listing their bios and major accomplishments and that's it. No campaigning, no listing of star ratings. If the people who vote want to refer to his star ratings, they could find those for themselves.

    • @TheMagnificentMongoSlade
      @TheMagnificentMongoSlade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@patrickdepew4976
      Doesn't matter. Listen to the breakdown Corny and Brian said.
      8th among historians, #1 for REPORTERS (journalists), these people are primed by Meltzer's opinion...most of them aggregate his stuff and they rely on him.

    • @deekdeegler5059
      @deekdeegler5059 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just like the Election - not "stolen" but "rigged", largely through media propaganda...

    • @patrickdepew4976
      @patrickdepew4976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheMagnificentMongoSlade That's my point is that Meltzer shouldn't be trying to influence it. It would be like if people actually voted for the WWE HOF and Vince sent out recommendations every year.

  • @Justin-bo5pg
    @Justin-bo5pg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's weird that the core of the Young Bucks get a pass for their political and religious beliefs but the same people drag AJ Styles.

  • @crappiekingdre6231
    @crappiekingdre6231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Corny if Dave keeps calling you Trump. Then you should call the Wrestling Observer fake news and see how he likes that.

    • @matthewfrohbieter1803
      @matthewfrohbieter1803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I doubt Corny would go down that road because he was a Dave informant for years. That’s probably why Jim doesn’t go nuclear on him.

    • @connordripps1480
      @connordripps1480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@matthewfrohbieter1803 and Cornette has gone on record of saying he's disappointed cause Meltzer has lost his mind and lost principles of any rhyme or reason cause Meltzer is kind of like Bruce Prichard. Maybe Meltzer should be called The Artful Dodger much like Bruce.

    • @berniebasset9465
      @berniebasset9465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is fake news. Always has been.

    • @vinnyv949
      @vinnyv949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Crony’s political leanings is really head scratching. He’s a traditional, old school, tough, non-pc conservative southerner yet he supports the Democrats who are the antithesis of that. The Democratic Party is progressive, new age, anti American northeastern PC liberal.

    • @natebaxter9551
      @natebaxter9551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@vinnyv949 this statement is as untrue as the idea that all conservatives are fascist and racist.

  • @mikehunth5765
    @mikehunth5765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    If he wants his hall to be respected then don’t put active wrestlers on the ballot

    • @deekdeegler5059
      @deekdeegler5059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dave literally said he could care less about what Cornette thought what pissed him off was that Jim was blatantly lying about things he knows aren’t true. Not that he wants the hall to be respected lol lol lol.

    • @al5306
      @al5306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@deekdeegler5059 Right... Jim's the one who lied... sure.

    • @walsh9080
      @walsh9080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Euroheat0022 The WWE hall of fame is the only true sports entertainment hall of fame. I say that only semi in jest.

    • @walsh9080
      @walsh9080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@al5306 Plans changed. It's not lying when you say that apparently.

    • @chubbubdreamer6904
      @chubbubdreamer6904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@deekdeegler5059 I missed all this, what did he lie about?

  • @TheBC313
    @TheBC313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    It always made me chuckle that Dave started a hall of fame for his NEWSLETTER. Is that not hilariously absurd to anybody else? The Wrestling Observer NEWSLETTER hall of fame. So prestigious lol.

    • @ohsweatbret
      @ohsweatbret 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea, I thought it’s kinda dumb. Also it’s voted on by readers of his magazine I believe. People who read his magazine and care enough to respond likely share his opinions on wrestling. They’re going to want to read about the wrestling and wrestlers they like. There’s obviously going to be a bias. It’s kinda silly that he won’t acknowledge that

  • @joshbouman1654
    @joshbouman1654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Old, out of touch, not all there, pushes his favourites down our throats.
    No it's not Vince McMahon, it's Dave Meltzer!

    • @MetalShadowX
      @MetalShadowX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Say what you will about Vince, at least he's been keeping WWE strong (mostly financially but nonetheless) for 35 years. Dave's nothing more than a guy who thinks he knows everything about a business he was never a part of until the Elite came over and sucked up to him. That and I can't imagine Vince, out of kayfabe, throwing a tantrum on Twitter and being snobby with fans.

    • @chrisortiz8072
      @chrisortiz8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I dont know if dave was ever in touch

    • @Aznar245
      @Aznar245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MetalShadowX Vince is a dying man with dementia

    • @TheSportsfan35
      @TheSportsfan35 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MetalShadowX Vince can't get out of his company's way when it comes to his booking of his talent & etc. I mean, Vince's the reason why his tv ratings for all 3 of his shows have been dropping every week.

    • @MetalShadowX
      @MetalShadowX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheSportsfan35 I'm sure it has nothing to do with tv ratings as a whole going down because nobody watches cable anymore

  • @milinski
    @milinski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Every week there is someone butthurt about Jim's comments. I love it.

    • @TomFoolery350
      @TomFoolery350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Everyone is offended about everything these days

    • @VendreadMike95
      @VendreadMike95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes.

    • @slyfox2022
      @slyfox2022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's many on the comments daily

    • @georgivasilev8428
      @georgivasilev8428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which makes following him all the more exciting.

  • @JamesBuggemo
    @JamesBuggemo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    "__________ is upset with Jim Cornette."
    You'd think they would get the gimmick by now.
    Jim doesnt like most modern wrestling, so he sounds off about it.
    Its really a pretty basic formula at this point.

    • @BeeBumper
      @BeeBumper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He helped make it what it is pimping himself to Vince

    • @karikarisworld2693
      @karikarisworld2693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrestling!!!!!!! Ain't seen any in aew

  • @matthewfrohbieter1803
    @matthewfrohbieter1803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Why does everybody care about Dave? Guy is wrong all the time and his star ranking system sucks.

    • @Hellwolf36
      @Hellwolf36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Because the Dirt Sheet bros (who are a problem in themselves now), AEW and even NJPW smarks like it when he gives them 5-7 stars and they hold him like the MSM or Golden Calf of Wrestling, when he is just a sucker for the same nonsense as they were. Even some AEW fans I have spoken to think he is full of shit now.

    • @MisterImpolite
      @MisterImpolite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cuz he’s right

    • @mhc12k
      @mhc12k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      100%

    • @thesupervisor3270
      @thesupervisor3270 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s why I’m trying to figure out

    • @chrisortiz8072
      @chrisortiz8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just a fun topic to tear apart lol since you hear about him from certain people. Though I dont care of Dave's thoughts and I dont read his crap

  • @ZoeW101
    @ZoeW101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Jim, thank you so much for speaking up for Benoit in that manner. These conversations about CTE and brain damage need to happen more and more to prevent further tragedies as Benoit’s.

    • @ZoeW101
      @ZoeW101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      No. You’re missing the point. It’s not an excuse. His brain was completely rotted. He wasn’t himself anymore. Unfortunately, none of the professional sports leagues ever wanna take responsibility or make appropriate changes. It’s a constant uphill battle. I’m not excusing what he did. We’re trying to prevent it from happening again by giving athletes the proper care.

    • @willtack9441
      @willtack9441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am good with whatever happens with him as long as he is not put in the wwe hof and people stop talking about him on every wwe instagram post

    • @jenisia3600
      @jenisia3600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ZoeW101 exactly this. Sadly someone i knew had a mental illness and little by little his personality changed till the day he wasnt himself, now people imagine getting hit in the head constantly to the point that his brain looked like a patient with Alzheimer.

    • @G_Six
      @G_Six 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sad part is a person has to die before it can be determined if they had CTE or not

    • @scottevans5472
      @scottevans5472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fuck that…he killed his own kid

  • @gcrumps
    @gcrumps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Jim Cornette speaks
    Someone across the world gets their feels hurt.

    • @williamcordier1201
      @williamcordier1201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess Jim is like Trump after all!!

    • @nickhughes8179
      @nickhughes8179 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only it’s Trump supporters and the fuck your feelings crowd that become snowflake ragers up in all of their feelings. There’s no Alternative to Fact and Trump lost.

  • @donkim2553
    @donkim2553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I'll never not laugh whenever Jim says Twinkle Toes McFangerbang

    • @michaelsuezo
      @michaelsuezo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Best nickname ever!

    • @ThaTruth223
      @ThaTruth223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it’s “Fuck Taylor” for me

    • @662chillin
      @662chillin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      When I hear him say Pockets and not laugh, I crack up everytime

    • @DovahFett
      @DovahFett 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@662chillin”My Little Dog Pockets”

    • @cosborne06
      @cosborne06 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “The Hardly Boyz” 😂😂😂

  • @Darkreine99
    @Darkreine99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Dave Meltzer is just jealous that Jim has more credibility in the wrestling world than he does.

    • @tylerboliver3428
      @tylerboliver3428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well you know Jim actually was in the wrestling business.

    • @rosybuddy28
      @rosybuddy28 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That has always been the case. He just got his head out of his ass long enough recently for him to realise it.

  • @RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA
    @RobertoTheOriginalManFromTheA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This is where Eric Bischoff feelings on dave,would be most appropriate..

    • @TheSportsfan35
      @TheSportsfan35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What did EB say about Meltzer?

    • @TheeCoachg
      @TheeCoachg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruce also

    • @RoronoaZoro55
      @RoronoaZoro55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TheSportsfan35 Eric Bischoff always criticizes Dave Meltzer with Bruce Prichard and Tony Schiavone, and to a lesser extant maybe Jim Ross and Arn Anderson but the first three always disagree with Uncle Dave!

  • @Anthonys_S
    @Anthonys_S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    They have to do a roast of meltzer with Jim, Bruce Prichard and Eric Bischoff 😳🤣

    • @mrpink99
      @mrpink99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Add JR to that roster as well

    • @handsomelee9568
      @handsomelee9568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd pay to see that.

    • @michelledavidson8190
      @michelledavidson8190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@handsomelee9568 same here 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @oneanotherstudios
    @oneanotherstudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Funny how Meltzer constantly dismisses Jim's views on modern wrestling, saying he's out of touch or not with the times, and because of that no one should really listen to him. But then he keeps harping on things Jim says, bringing attention to them. Why would he care what Jim says if he's so "out of touch" or "working" people as a gimmick (which has also been alleged by several personalities, not sure if Meltzer was one of them)?

    • @HeyBuddays
      @HeyBuddays 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Disappointment. Dave feels that he has "evolved" with wrestling and that Jim is stuck in the past. Meltzer seems very disappointed that Jim is dismissed by most, when he's one of the most brilliant wrestling minds out there, because he stands his ground on certain concepts. If Jim could "evolve" the way Dave has, his legacy would be set and he could have a job anywhere. But Dave also doesn't understand that Cornette doesn't care about any of that. The guy just wants to make money and reminisce on the sport he use to love. He has no desire to play the game anymore.

    • @CleezyanaJones
      @CleezyanaJones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HeyBuddays agreed Nwa was taylormade for Jim. Then he pissed off the powder puffs and lost that gig. I’d still like to see him back in nwa as a heel manager If nothing else.

  • @michelledavidson8190
    @michelledavidson8190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "If he brought a dog and named it clue he'd have one" gold 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @gonzalogca4907
    @gonzalogca4907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I like Uncle Dave, but he reacted like Kanye West on South Park in the "fish sticks" episode.

    • @oodatooitis6714
      @oodatooitis6714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is too underrated!

    • @CallmeA_B
      @CallmeA_B 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣👏
      Thank you for a spot on analogy. I laughed way too hard at this.

    • @chloeirnes
      @chloeirnes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bitch, are you a Hobbit? I can't un-see this now! Thanks!

  • @MetalJT24
    @MetalJT24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    More proof Dave is a massive Fanboy of Omega.

  • @z2ei
    @z2ei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Meltzer doesn't get humor any more, no. I realized this when he started giggling at Being the Elite like a school girl.

    • @planetschlock
      @planetschlock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If someone had a gun to my head and told me to either watch a 3hr Raw or 5 minutes of Being the Elite, I'd tell them to just pull the fucking trigger.

    • @TheFatSteez
      @TheFatSteez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@planetschlock Wow dude! Then you must really hate both shows!

    • @z2ei
      @z2ei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@planetschlock Raw. I can at least sleep through Raw.

    • @theunknownone5990
      @theunknownone5990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd ask if it could be a Raw from more than 15 years ago

  • @joshbouman1654
    @joshbouman1654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Meltzer is a mark for Meltzer marks.
    Ever notice all his favourite wrestlers happen to reference him constantly while working an exaggerated parody of the style he likes?

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Which creates a self-sustaining feedback loop that forms the new paradigm of the sports entertainment industry, of which the only good thing about is Corny's commentary. 😂

  • @davey3884
    @davey3884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have to keep reminding myself this argument is between adults...

  • @theangryconstitutionalist583
    @theangryconstitutionalist583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Meltzer's "troll tongue" is always hilarious 😆

  • @ZYaKnoe249
    @ZYaKnoe249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Why does Brian Last still think Dave mutually likes him?

    • @jonnybrotten1290
      @jonnybrotten1290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why does he care?

    • @VegetabIeMan
      @VegetabIeMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Charming Billy you criticizing a dude you never met (and most likely never will) before shows your worth.

    • @tylerpemberton7820
      @tylerpemberton7820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brian last is a yes man. Pretty sure he blows jim between segments

    • @jasonoyola8550
      @jasonoyola8550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylerpemberton7820 so Brian last, always goes first? lol

    • @Old_Joseph
      @Old_Joseph 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because anyone next to Jim is the good cop when it comes to Dave

  • @RandalfElVikingo
    @RandalfElVikingo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Dave Meltzer has such a crush on Mr. Fingerbanged.

    • @saloz9483
      @saloz9483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea it's obvious since how quick he was to put him in.

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Steven Bristol Remember the "Ho Bag" from Kayfabe Commentaries? I bet a lot of wrestler would put Omega in there.

  • @nyrich10
    @nyrich10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Dave's child-like "Come onnnn, take it back! Say you didn't mean it" on Twitter last night did make me laugh.

  • @jimbo-fk4dq
    @jimbo-fk4dq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Maybe Dave was padding votes by counting all of the "extra stars" Dave gives out in his ratings as votes.😂

  • @joemixon834
    @joemixon834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think Dave's reaction to corny now proves he stuffs his ballots and even perhaps his pants.

  • @lonestarfriend
    @lonestarfriend 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    As usual, great artwork Travis.

  • @nihilozero
    @nihilozero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Do you think we're going to get ballots next year?"
    LOL

  • @branhasyoutube
    @branhasyoutube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Never clicked so fast. Meltzer Magoo is such an AEW mark

  • @LuisReyes-pb4dt
    @LuisReyes-pb4dt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    ,Always great to listen to Jim and Brian.Interesting take on wrestling of today and yesteryear

    • @stealthmode1303
      @stealthmode1303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tony Khan and Vince McMahon need to listen to Corny’s videos.

  • @ProjectDevilEye
    @ProjectDevilEye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Meltzer needs a new hobby, the guy is obsessed with every little thing Jim has to say.

    • @CaptainKenway
      @CaptainKenway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He said, posting a reply to a video where Jim spends 33 minutes obsessing over what Dave said, which was in response to another long segment of Jim obsessing over Dave's hall of fame.

    • @gregoryfuller9736
      @gregoryfuller9736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard dave called Jim a trump support

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CaptainKenway You use a Jericho's selfie as a profile picture lol. Talking about obsessive.

  • @shawnbaker3245
    @shawnbaker3245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The only reason OLIVIER had such great matches in Japan because he was carried by great Japanese wrestlers.

    • @BeeBumper
      @BeeBumper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well thanks professor wrestling. I guess with all your years experience wrestling in Japan have finally paid off.

    • @MikeJr9284
      @MikeJr9284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That’s why I think Omega is overrated. Okada probably carried Omega during all 3 of their matches yet Dave gave every Okada/Omega match 6 stars.

    • @bled83
      @bled83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Professor Wrestling is the name of my band.

  • @alo4912
    @alo4912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Brian 100% should have been on this thumbnail, he spoke more. I wanna see brian in a thumbnail!!!!

    • @theraginggamer095
      @theraginggamer095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not sure how many people (mainly Travis Heckel) knows what Brian looks like. If they do, then I agree!

    • @erickmack4131
      @erickmack4131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He needs to be drawn as a talking inanimate object

    • @horrorstew3577
      @horrorstew3577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theraginggamer095 I've been listening to Brian for years and I just realised I have no idea what he looks like lol

    • @BrandonMobley614
      @BrandonMobley614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim Cornette is the star of the show, it's hard to find anyone smarter or more articulate in wrestling history. But Brian steers the ship on these shows. His research is on point, and although like most, he doesn't agree with all of Corny's opinions, he doesn't combat them in a confrontational or condescending manner. It's clear that they're friends off the air. You can't be a scrub if you want to talk wrestling with Cornette, he'd eat you alive.

    • @rosybuddy28
      @rosybuddy28 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But what does he look like? Does anyone know? Or would he be under a mask like Excrement?

  • @jeffreyriley8742
    @jeffreyriley8742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Not sure if Observer Hall of Fame was a work before but it certainly is now.

  • @chwenhoou
    @chwenhoou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Did Uncle Dave get butt-hurt again for being called out for his stupidity?
    It must be a day ending in "y".

  • @chisasa9509
    @chisasa9509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dave DID fix the Vote for Omega. He got so mad about it, cause he thought he was exposed.

    • @madddoggnogood1491
      @madddoggnogood1491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You got proof of that

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madddoggnogood1491 Yeah, any issue of the observer.

  • @Amit_V11
    @Amit_V11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Forget Russo vs Cornette we can get Cornette vs Meltzer. Survivor Series match Team Cornette vs Team Meltzer.

  • @MattJungleCat
    @MattJungleCat ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I get a giggle everything he calls Omega "Twinkle toes McFingerbang". You can just imagine Meltzer losing it... stuttering and sounding like Morse code

  • @mr.mirchenstein6549
    @mr.mirchenstein6549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These Meltzer thumbnails are great. So realistic & life like 😂😂

  • @TheDarkAntares
    @TheDarkAntares 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Something small but I lmao when he called Jericho “Jericovid” 😂

  • @MrBryantcm
    @MrBryantcm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The drama going on between these guys is better than what is going on in the ring in WWE and AEW

  • @jeffreycherep8264
    @jeffreycherep8264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the way Travis draws Dave.

  • @Hakeem990
    @Hakeem990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's about time Netflix or Amazon gave Brian and Jim a show

  • @coolhand3917
    @coolhand3917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Tony Khan owns Meltzer now, Vince never gave him access, Bischoff has said on his podcast with Conrad that when he first took control at WCW that he tried to make a working relationship with him but he realised that it was a terrible idea after a short period of time after Meltzer went into business for himself.
    Dave is a mark fanboy, he only likes NJPW because of the level of access he had there and now in AEW he's actively on Tony Khan's payroll he is 100% fake news, I don't think Meltzer gives a damn about his "integrity" anymore and is just happy being behind the scenes, getting mudshow wannabes kissing his backside and stroking his ego, Meltzer is deluded enough to think he is now "one of the boys" and to him that is more valuable than anything.
    #MabelWasTheThirdMan

    • @tsaicho
      @tsaicho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Still don’t think Meltzer is literally on AEW’s payroll. However, I do speculate (not sure if I am correct) that AEW may be bulk subscribing Wrestling Observer Newsletter by making multiple e-mail and user name accounts.

    • @TheSportsfan35
      @TheSportsfan35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Cool Hand, yep Meltzer & PWI'S Mike Johnson are both marks for themselves & apparently think they're on the same level or above people in the business & legends like Corny.

    • @timslee0618
      @timslee0618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually Meltzer has access to WWE guys on and off. Even few years ago, WWE allowed him to do a recorded podcast interviews with like Becky Lynch

  • @natedogg1979
    @natedogg1979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just want to mention how awesome this picture is. Between the piece of paper that Jim is tearing in half is Jim's face on his shirt. It really can be camouflaged with the white and black newspaper and is a perfect detail to the drawing.

  • @chisasa9509
    @chisasa9509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Why does this Generation NEED a Meyer's Brigg's Personality test for everything they see?

  • @Will_kid_cortez
    @Will_kid_cortez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When a Cornette joke or his sarcasm goes over your head 🤦‍♂️

  • @jmg3116
    @jmg3116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Meltzer has always touted himself and the Observer as the unelected, would be definitive opinion on wrestling. It's no wonder he's finally lost it, as his egos grown too big to be contained.

  • @Thatisjustmo
    @Thatisjustmo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LMFAOOOO “the two brothers pie face and balding and twinkle toes!!!” 😂😂😂😂

  • @gpro_1982
    @gpro_1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Besides the matches with Okada, what has Omega done that constitutes a spot in a hall of fame? Not saying those matches weren’t great, but, seriously...

    • @tre10x18
      @tre10x18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Vs Tetsuya Naito
      Vs Jericho
      Vs Jay White
      Vs Kushida
      Were good imo

    • @gpro_1982
      @gpro_1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ski Mask The Plump God I’ll check those out thank you. 😊👍

    • @justoneguy2487
      @justoneguy2487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@tre10x18 but were they Hall of Fane worthy right now considering he's still an active wrestler?

    • @tre10x18
      @tre10x18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@justoneguy2487 i think vs naito, vs okada they were instant classics and vs jericho as well but him in the hall of fame i would have waited till the end of his career hes still in the middle of it to be saying hes a hall of famer

    • @packpock4369
      @packpock4369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wrestling a 9 year old girl lol. Only a niche group like him. He's not a mainstream name. He's not a name like Jericho.

  • @YorrB
    @YorrB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    So Dave puts people on the ballots. Retired wrestlers & Office didn't vote for him, couple historians voted for him for contributions to japan, some votes from current wrestlers, but got the nr.1 vote among reporters 😂😂 so the experts didn't vote for him, but the people who know the least about the wrestling business voted him in 😂😂

    • @Leelamon
      @Leelamon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Who are these wrestling reporters. The kids on youtube wetting themselves over flips?

  • @dougbrown04
    @dougbrown04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    99 percent of legendary wrestling talent hated Dave, or thinks he is a giant mark. That's all you need to know.

    • @TheSportsfan35
      @TheSportsfan35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly right. Harley hated Dave. Skandar Akbar hated him, so did Bobby Heenan just to name a few.

  • @jamirimaj6880
    @jamirimaj6880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    what is the integrity of a wrestling Hall of Fame that just inducted Sting in just 2016?!?! and they did it just because WWE inducted him months prior lol

  • @timslee0618
    @timslee0618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Even Les Thatcher who does his own podcast on Meltzer's site said it is to early for Kenny to be in the wo hof due to he is still active

  • @kjpierson1152
    @kjpierson1152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If dave is whining about Benoit, does he have Snuka in his hall of fame?
    -

  • @biggj21
    @biggj21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Kenny twinkle toes omega🧚‍♂️

  • @TheEnzyme94
    @TheEnzyme94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You take the Omega vs Okada matches away?
    Then Omega would be an indy guy and thats it!
    Okada would still be an eligeable hall of famer, multi time NJPW world champ with loads great matches! With a string of classics.
    I don't hate Omega but hall of fame? He is in the middle of a career and has been ok when NJPW booked him. Now? I am not so sure.
    Uncle Dave is trying to fit in with the kool kidz!

    • @johngallagher72
      @johngallagher72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okada . .great matches vs AJ , Finn Suzuki , Ibushi, Naito, Tanahashi, Shinske, Jay White, ....Okada even had a great match against Bad Luck Fale proving he is this generations Flair.

    • @TheEnzyme94
      @TheEnzyme94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johngallagher72 When one thinks of Omega? One thinks BTE or a blow up doll or him werstling a kid or video games.
      That is a problem.
      And you hear him talk and ugh! Hes terrible.
      He needs to build something or just be another well paid "also ran!"

    • @TheEnzyme94
      @TheEnzyme94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johngallagher72 I hate to make comparisons to past Legends. But, if there was a wrestler today that a ProWrestling fan (not sports entdrtainment) would point at as the best representation of a ProWrestling World Champion? Okada is defenitely The Man in the recent era! Imho.

  • @magicbryant8
    @magicbryant8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So glad Brian called Dave AND Jim out for getting bent out of shape anytime someone disagrees with their views on wrestling.

  • @antoniocamargo6580
    @antoniocamargo6580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So he puts Kenny omega in the hall of fame after 3 matches with Okada? Prior to thst or after thst he has been irrelevant

  • @ELPRES1DENTE45
    @ELPRES1DENTE45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's hilarious that he didn't make it in previous years, when he'd arguably peaked, yet when he's done nothing significant in the past 18-24 months, he gets in. Even his peaks weren't that great. He was carried to greatness by Okada and others.

  • @Thatisjustmo
    @Thatisjustmo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I 1000% agree with Jim’s views on Chris Benoit

  • @LMLR187
    @LMLR187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    More and more like Benzino in terms of his newsletter controversies.

  • @thegolem9325
    @thegolem9325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He hasn't had a single good match since he left NJPW and didn't have guys like Okada, Ishii, and Tanahashi to carry him anymore.

    • @ebransc09
      @ebransc09 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      His last match was *******5/6... well below his usual standard

    • @thegolem9325
      @thegolem9325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ebransc09 Meltzer’s stars mean nothing. He’s been hot garbage without actual talented wrestlers carrying him.

  • @MatsThyWit
    @MatsThyWit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I have a theory. My theory is Dave sees how big Cornette's podcast and Cornette's Collectibles merchandise sales are becoming, and it makes him worry. It's perhaps not so shocking that Dave suddenly became so antagonistic towards Cornette when Cornette became, in some ways, a direct competitor for the first time in their twenty-odd year relationship.

  • @Will3476
    @Will3476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been waiting all day for this

  • @Luke.S2099
    @Luke.S2099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, you learn something new everyday. I had no idea about Rocky Johnson. That's really f**ked up.

  • @jessycruz2465
    @jessycruz2465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Omega is already being overshadowed by a lot of wrestlers in aew and the show isn't even two years old yet. Even pockets had a better push in 2020 than omega.

    • @totallybored5526
      @totallybored5526 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The omega should take the hint and stop doing stupid stuff with his hands, like O.J Pockets who does nothing

  • @metallicbigtoe3949
    @metallicbigtoe3949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Integrity, what an extinct concept lol

  • @jester2trife
    @jester2trife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The tongue is always too much haha. Pops me every time.

  • @britishbulldogsvsthehartfo5677
    @britishbulldogsvsthehartfo5677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wrestling hall of fames don't exist, it's just one guy who makes the decision for selfish reasons, vince mcmahon does it to sell merchandise and meltzer does it to annoy cornette

  • @dadncaleb
    @dadncaleb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you wanna bet on the exact moment Dave's brain turns to jelly and we're taking him to the home and he sipping soup through a straw..they'll take a bet on anything...Gold. 🤣

  • @phantomdriver2010
    @phantomdriver2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Poor Brian getting treated like trash because people don't like Jim
    Petty really

  • @timdertim
    @timdertim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is some of the best content this channel has to offer.

  • @Amit_V11
    @Amit_V11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is AJ Styles, Finn Balor, Roman Reigns, Drew, Seth Rollins, and many more in this Hall of fame?

    • @jasons2023
      @jasons2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reigns and Rollins probably aren't.

  • @acevantura583
    @acevantura583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Omega over stiners bros buff bag well Kane gold dust gangrel ken shamrock

  • @tendresseak27
    @tendresseak27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brian had a point there when he said both jim and dave do not do well with people with different opinions then them.

  • @MilMaska
    @MilMaska 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "What im saying is. Dave list his ever loving f n mind" - Jim Cornette

  • @asoncalledvoonch2210
    @asoncalledvoonch2210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Meltzer and his crush on Omega reminds Me of Vince's crush on HBK in the mid 90's.
    Legitimately.

  • @jaxsquier
    @jaxsquier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't mean any harm but Dave Meltzer doing this is a work,it has to be. There are guys way more talented than Omega and they aren't in and I'm not talking about active wrestlers. I just went and looked at the list and it's over 2 hundred members and the all are better than Kenny Omega. This is Sad But it is Meltzer's Hall and he can put in anyone he wants even if I don't Agree. SMDH. If Cornette is Mad 😠 😤 now wait till Meltzer Gets the Young Bucks in The Meltzer Wrestling Hall Of Fame. Okay Now I'm pissed,I just looked it up and through the list of The Wrestling Observers Newletter Hall of Fame and Kenny Omega is BEFORE CURT HENNING. THIS IS DEFINITELY A WORK OR MELTZER IS OFF HIS MEDS. THERE IS NO WAY THE" CLEANER" IS IN BEFORE MR.PERFECT. THIS IS SOME BULL S**T

  • @freddiejohnson6137
    @freddiejohnson6137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dave Meltzer has turned back into the teenager he always wanted to be and have his opinions popular with an elite group of niche fans and doesn't like it when people make fun on what he says. He really does take a lot of things way too seriously and if he likes something it should be off limits for and kind of ridicule. He made a reputation over the years of most selling his opinions and guesses as fact like he had the inside scoop and had inside friends that would often tell him false information and eventually find a group of people that worshiped his every word and he began to get an ego about his followers and their promotion.

  • @shanefrederick7731
    @shanefrederick7731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Totally agree with Cornette about the Benoit point.

  • @bgcorporation
    @bgcorporation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a big, big big fan of Kenny Omega. I disagree with Cornette about him on a lot of things. That being said, hall of fame? Isn't he like in his "Peak" here? Or was his "Peak" in Japan? Ya he's 37, but, I just do not see Hall of Fame right now.

  • @russoswerve3974
    @russoswerve3974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cornette trying to defend Benoit’s HOF induction has him stuttering like Dave

    • @WhatAboutall
      @WhatAboutall 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Benoit is like a war vet according to Jim, so his defense is okay.

  • @bazferp
    @bazferp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been saying it for as long as I can remember (way before jim and dave fell out) but isn't dave essentially the world's biggest mark? And has been for a lot of years. Not disputing his achievements etc but fucking hell what's he done personally other than have ocd over wrestling?

  • @DXCenaWWE4life
    @DXCenaWWE4life 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only reason Olivia was chosen is based on his New Japan work. Because nothing he's done outside of that is HOF worthy anywhere.

  • @TheJuise26
    @TheJuise26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Mole, mole, mole, mole” 😂🤣