FR-F2 French Sniper Rifle at the Range
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Today I've taken the FR-F2 to the range to try it out. I'm using the early French Army scope, an APX L806-04. This is a 3.85x optic basically modeled on the German WW2 ZF-4. It has a big simple German post reticle, and the -04 variation indicated that the BDC cam has been calibrated for 7.62mm NATO.
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Damn, he already has the new french F3 jacket while I'm in the french army and still waiting for mine !
Thats EXACTLY the comment I was looking for
Il a dû la recevoir comme "cadeau" vu qu'il a fait des vidéos au ministère de l'intérieur pour parler du GIGN
@@downeedles9249 J'ai vu suffisamment de vidéos de Gun Jesus pour ne plus m'étonner de ce genre de choses mdr
Ptdrrr je te jure autant les désert yen à plein
Mais des CE c'est un sketch j'ai vu quasiment aucune unité qui porte que ça a part les rpima
Incredible he has his hands on an F3 DESERT jacket, when I received my CE F3 a month ago!
Now we've got to find Ian the "Tundra" Chasseur Alpin version of the F3!
I can’t imagine how excited Ian was to fire this for the first time!
His enthusiasm is highly contagious. It seems that just a couple of years ago I couldn't have been less interested in some funky looking old French rifle and now I can't get enough! The more I learn, the more I want to learn...
@@richardelliott9511 amen to that!
To be honest *I'd* be rather keen to shoot that one, despite the fact that I'm English and it's a French rifle! That bipod arrangement alone is not the most common and mechanically it looks really nice :)
I don't think it is too hard to imagine Mr. Hayward - he probably feels as excited as you would expect to feel, in the same circumstance - and with Ian, it shows! 😄
I'm not sure if you are British - guessing by Avatar - and it really sucks that your Queen is a goddamn tyrant, who runs a Parliment of tyrants, and thinks all British Citizens are too stupid to know how to use firearms appropriately. We have the same problem in the US (mostly within our left wing Democrat political party, but Republican heroes like Ronald Reagan and other did plenty of damage too) - and it is a *constant* fight to keep our Right. I suppose that is how it goes...
If you are in Britain, and for those elsewhere in the world - I do hope that after all of this global madness and tyranny about The 'Rona is done, ya'all get to come visit again.
*We'd love to let your Culturally Appropriate our Constitutional Right!* - Great thing about America, even non-citizens get to share in our most cherished of Citizens' Rights, and Americans enjoy sharing.
See you on the other side of this global mess - it is going to be ugly for a few years, but I think most of us will be okay on the other side, and it is going to be great!
Pretty sure i heard him squeeing.
Oh my god, I got my tireurs d'élite back in 81 using the FR-F2 rifle when I served in the 2eme REI 5eme Co based in Bonifacio Corse. Did the course up in the mountains in Corte. Brings back some memories.
I am in 2 REI 5eme Co in 2021based in Nîmes. Still using FR-F2
Légionnaire tu a mon respect. envoyé d'ajaccio! j'ai trimbaler ce truc en combat en 82 a canjuers(ESOA).
Legio Patria Nostra boys
I hope to wear the kepi blanc in 2022
Ian is so enthusiastic in that nerdy way we all understand, that he infuses what can be a dry and boring subject with life. Vive la difference!
I don’t understand it, it’s just a tube that throws lead
It's a piece of history that you are, not just holding, but shooting.
You may Never get it...
Okay a rock that’s been around millions of years is also a piece of history
@@randylahey2242
Yes.
But that's a false equivalence.
@@randylahey2242 Trust me, by talking about rocks you've just made many paleontologists & geologists the world over *very* happy
That may be one of the most satisfying sounding bolt action guns I have heard.
Same here even rivals my favorite gun the L96
I was a sniper in the French Army on FRF2. An excellent weapon at the time. Bravo for the PGM patch. The ultima ratio is exceptional.
Love the "star wars" aesthetics of the rifle with that polymer heatshield and wood furniture on it!
Same. I'd love to see that in Mando or Book of Boba Fett.
Ian: The French copy nobody and nobody copies the French
Also Ian: The scope is basically a German ZF4....
Sometimes you have to tip your hats to your rivals ;)
This is not a ZF4 scope, but an APX L806-04 (x3.85) built by SOM (Société d'Optique et de Mécanique) or OPL (Optique de Précision de Levallois). version replaced by the SCROME J8 (x8) in the 90s
@@Ka_Bandah yes I know. Ian states in the video it's basically a modified ZF4.
Germany and France was at the base the same empire :D
You are wrong ...US copy French after WW1! All the 75,105,155 mm caliber guns, 60, 81 mortars, rifle grenade, the Sherman tank copy of the Somua S35, Garand M1 copy of the RSC 1917 and finally do you know in the world a tank that is not a derivative of the Renault FT17 (360 ° turret) ? And many other....like smokeless powder...etc.
Man I would love to see Henry do a follow-on video with this rifle like you two did with the F1...
THIS! So much this!
And another humourous intro.
I hope they shoot it with different scopes, would be really interested in that
Yesss
Definitely! Would love to see what he could pull off!
@@hukama6911 Yeah, I'd love to see what it could do with a proper optic. Even a proper vintage optic to match the rifle's age. Leupold was making some good shít back in the day, and that's got a weaver rail on it. Ian even said in the other video that was one of the things the French did.
9:18 The sound that thing makes when it goes off is so clean, like a hammer hitting an anvil! :P
Last time I heard it was over 10 years ago, I forgot it had such a clean ring to it :-D
I was about to ask whether that metallic cold-chisel-on-steel report was an artifact of the audio pickup. I guess it's not. Very distinctive sound indeed.
@@christopherreed4723 it might be a little, also if wearing double hearing protection you won't hear it, but if you got 10 of them out on range day and you're behind the firing line it sounds like a bunch of blacksmiths going at it.
Fired 7.62 from SLR (FAL) and it had much the same sound.
@@martingardener90 Interesting, I assumed the F2 being bolt action had a lot to do with how defined the sound was.
That Australian 7.62 is made by ADI who also make one of the most accurate and reliable .223 hunting rounds on the market here. It's a proven sub-MOA ammo all day every day.
the match ammo they make is even better
Adjusting the optic backwards. Yep. Know that feeling.
That's the way you adjust your scope bore-sighting. I always start out moving the wrong way.
I've never seen ammunition come packaged like that. Do they sell those at Arizona 7-Eleven next to the egg salad sandwiches?
lol
I’ve had it happen with my australian surplus 5.56. I think it’s just an australian thing.
Keeps the spiders and crocs and box jellyfish out
I had some Aussie 7.62 packaged just like that, 5 rounds in each packet, kept it clean and dry in storage.
As soon as I saw that I knew it was Australian ADI manufactured...good stuff
I love the heat shield aesthetic on this rifle, and the bipod looks supremely functional.
As into french weapons as Ian is the French should give Ian a commemorative rifle
Seeing that France is doing all it can to kill off small arms industry, no chance...
Well the french ministry of interior did let him in to look at some guns which i think is kinda cool
@@madisntit6547Dounds nice, I would vote for him!!!
@@piimatykki It's exceptionally cool!
@Venate Oh man if only! The government doesn't sell armed surplus to civilians. All the french get has been imported from previous exports... I saw just two days ago a picture of an AMX 30 just rotting away in the woods! so sad...
This is so wholesome. Ian is happy, we are happy, the gun is happy. Everybody wins.
I own a Mas36 and a 36/51. The 36/51 is a safe wh*$e. It is in prestine condition and has not be used very much. I've only shot it a few times. The 36 however is a silvered, well used but still in good condition rifle. It is HIGHLY accurate. Capable of sub-minute with custom ammo. I've killed deer and hogs with the iron sights, killing one deer out to 180 yards and now use it as an elk rifle. With an S&K mount/Argos scope combo, consistantly hitting a 15" steel plate at 600 yards is well within the limitations of the rifle. It is easily capable of further distances.
Ian looks like he's having a hell of a time. Hope he gets it at auction.
In yesterday's video, I'm pretty sure he mentioned that he does own it.
What auction??You only could pry that thing from his cold fingers!LOL
I notice he said he was happy to "get one" not "fire one." So, uh, I think he already pulled the trigger.
@@someweirdguyew9757 Note he also used it at Desert Brutality...I rather doubt he'd do that with a loaner. 😎
Auction? He owns that one. And that goes for the 37 randos that gave you a thumbs up.
I've readed FR and I was expecting a Spanish FR8 "Cetmetón" rifle. A really forgotten weapon, even in Spain, made with a Mauser Coruña 1943 rifle and a barrel from a Cetme C assault rifle.
@@robertl6196 thanks, I'm going to view it
Great job!! I watched the table top you did with this rifle as well. Truly outstanding work! Thank you!
Great rifle, nice shooting, and the PGM shoulder patch is a very nice touch.
if you freeze it at about 0:04 it's like a flash back for my boys and I, a Sunday in the high desert, shooting Enfields until the Cosmoline "sweats" out of the cracks and gets all over you. Dirty, hot, thirsty, with a sore shoulder, a numb cheek and a slight headache . . . . . The absolute best of times. 😁
Thats a super cool rifle. Im glad I got to see it. I’m glad you were the one to show it to me. Keep up the good work dude! 💪🏻🇺🇸👍🏻
Really nice rifle Ian. I’m glad you got one.
Good luck Ian. I love the looks of that rifle!
Good luck ! Also great camo with the environement, you managed to get the latest F3 vest in Daguet camo, gives the vid a nice touch!
The sound of the bolt getting racked offscreen was so satisfying.
Strangely the First thing I noticed was the ammo in plastic and I said to myself that looks familiar! yes I am Australian lol
So am I. Paul Gill here mate. G'day
Makes more sense to me to have the elevation on the side and the windage on top as to me that is more logical. But then I think it's logical to have day month year not month day year.
Year month day makes most sense; automatically sorting in proper order.
@@steveh1792 You tend to remember what year it is so that isn't what is most important. What is most important is the part that changes the most frequent which is the day.
@@Punisher9419 Almost like different notations make sense for different purposes lol. Year month day is the only system that sorts cleanly on a computer without special handling of dates (ie you can just treat it as text) but obviously it's not the best for human readers.
Thank you. So true!
@@steveh1792 if you want to order files by date yes, yyyy/mm/dd is the best choice, but for daily use, dd/mm/yyyy anytime. and the weird mm/dd/yyyy ends in the trashbin
Very doable accuracy! I also loved the metallic sound of working the bolt :)
I love all your videos man. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experiences!
New to the channel and glad to have found it. We’ve heard about Forgotten Weapons on a MAC and a few other the great folks we’ve recently found on TH-cam. Probably sound like the wife and I are crawling out of a cave but we didn’t watch videos on the internet until very recently.
On the plus side, now you have a decade's worth of FW videos to bingewatch. Enjoy!
Search to your hearts content. Try "forgotten weapons" plus whatever else youre looking for and theres probably a video on it.
@@basithardimasqi6751 and that’s what we’ve been doing
@@shoemender972 started TH-cam learning to run a backhoe and the world got crazy. Then we started to become proficient at our firearms.
Welcome to the Elbonian military supply channel! (Forgotten Weapons inside joke.)
Most excellent. I really enjoy seeing what an older military rifle, of unusual design, can actually do at the range.
That's a great rifle , i'm happy for you Ian...Have fun!!
Always enjoy seeing how well these old rifles can shoot. Sometimes it seems like we think great accuracy is a recent invention.
I find that nearly any scope, with sufficient clarity and lighting is fine for long range if target discernment isn’t an issue. In fact I tend to shoot a bit better with lower power as the high magnification exaggerates the movement of the reticle to such a degree that I often overthink my shots. Nice video.
Dude I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. This show is so therapeutic to watch. As well as sheer informative entertainment. I love every element of this show and hope it never goes away !!
I'm not alone then. Ian's gun nerdery is so relaxing. He's just a good ol boy having a great time with lovely old guns. You love to see it folks
Spent a week in Tucson very recently and it's awesome out there. Arizona is an amazing state!
I knew it was Australian ammo as soon as I saw the plastic
Nice! That's really fine performance with surplus ball combined with that scope reticle. Who knows what it'll do with some Black Hills or Federal Match! Very cool. Happy Thanksgiving to you all down south too Ian.
Love that rifle, looks like something out of starwars
ce ci est que es ce que j'attendait aujourdhui!
merci, Ian :-)
That dramatic pause and zoom-in action was awsome!
I love your show. Good luck on Desert Brutality 2021 lml
Watching Ian do the long walk up i keep waiting to see the "You can't fast travel while enemies are nearby" in the corner lol
the most art deco firearm I've ever seen. its like straight from dishonoured or something
Ça fait plaisir de voir le respect, super vidéo
Interesting how metallic the report sounds, at least through the camera audio.
Also, I know after seeing Karl’s run it’s probably not meant to be, but I would love to see Ian absolutely clean up Desert Brutality with his French kit.
The old Weaver 330 scopes and series of 3/4" scopes actually had the windage rotated to the LEFT of the shooter perspective. Our more modern has the elevation on top and windage on the right, again, the old "sniper" scopes had the windage on the left and elevation on top. They pretty much had to be used with Kentucky windage since the adjustments on the Weaver was the big SCREW in the center and the outside ring was the set BUT it sure does NOT look like that! A lot of shooters do not know you loosen the set outside "ring" then adjust the slotted screw for wind/elev then tightened the set rings again. Pretty tough to do in combat. LOVE the French rifles and your channel my friend. The best channel around.
I'm glad you finally got one. Enjoy your new rifle.
It's awesome to see how it really performs!
That action sounds so smooth. Wish I had the cash to grab one of these. Your a lucky man
That Aussie F4 ammo is fantastic, buddy's got a bunch of the F1 5.56NATO and it's dead nuts consistent. I also really like the '80's Hirtenberger stuff, really consistent and good quality for surplus 7.62NATO ammo.
Hirtenberger "RIP"
@@pebo8306 Yeah, at least there's still stock of the goods floating around out there.
I was given a couple of cases of Aussie 7.62mm. Phenomenally accurate! I shot a sub MOA group with a Remington 700P…..and I’m not that good a rifle shot.
Actually Hirtenberger was not the best supplier in Austria!Little known Altmann factory ammo,was preferred by anybody,when shooting for precision!That company went bust even before Hirtenberger.Two suppliers for little Austria;not viable!
Not the Hirtenberger Tuscadero Ticooooonnddas?
Thanks for using your cool ammo to bring us this
Thank you , Ian .
That is such a nice sounding rifle!
excellent aiming, perfect camera control
This french rifle looks sooo old and weird, but at the same time has it's charm. I have "learned" to love it.
that rifle sounds amazing
That is genuine love and enjoyment right there! ..
You need that rifle most definitely! 🏴
There was an old game from 2007 called A.V.A and this gun was my absolute favorite. It took more skill to use, but was so satisfying when you land a hit with it.
It also made me think of A.V.A lol
@@ExplodingTrafficCone Ever had the chance to play in a Demo-India F3 no semi Lobby? xD
Certainly glad you showed a closeup of the rubber eyepiece , as I noticed zero eye relief, thought your brow was made like an anvil
I already and always have wished you luck at all you shooting matches that have seen.
Thx for your videos Ian. :-)
Awesome work on the clay pigeons, that can't be easy with that thick post!
Shooting a bolt rifle prone off a bipod as a lefty actually looks kind of comfy
Honestly shooting a right handed bolt as a lefty is awesome for bench shooting or prone shooting, as a lefty I only own right handed guns and actually prefer right handed bolts over left handed
Again, I would love to see Ian team up with a historically minded handloader for some serious accuracy nerdery.
These vintage weapons are great but learning how to feed them by hand (especially the sniper bits) can be fascinating.
I had thought the lack of focus on accuracy was a dodge but it's clear the man can shoot.
I guess channel with lots of velocities and MOA measurements might not have the same draw...
This is a really nice looking rifle.
You zeroed fine, thing is that was Ausie ammo, need to hold down under.
Hahaha nice one
Beautiful rifle
Best shooting w/ a sniper rifle I've saw Ian do.
Thank you Ian!
What a beautiful rifle. Lovely.
Aussie F4 7.62! I've carried and shot alot of it through MAG-58s, good to see it's getting a run around!
3:28 Loving the dramatic zoom on the "that... IS PRETTY SWEET"
So sweet looking shooting👍 thx for that video👍
This is one of the rarest Bolt-action sniper rifles i'd ever seen back then
Has a very pleasant metallic sound to it.
Looks like Ian has given us his Christmas list. Shoot-n-See targets ( the sighting in versions ) and a folding shooting table.
It's a good rifle, I do love the looks of it, very classic style.
Moving adjustments the wrong way…happens to me all the time. Nice rifle!
Great chanel ! 👍
Learned so much !
I always thought this was a good looking rifle but didn’t realize how effective it could be until Henry & Josh wrung out the FR-F1 that Ian provided. I can see supplying a scope of this nature in the ‘50’s but there was much better glass available when the rifle was modified and rechambered in the 80’s. French procurement letting down the guys on the tip of the spear.
Man that thing has a really good sound to it
I am French and I thank you for this video :) I appreciate American's freedoms given by God in the second Amendment to keep the governement in check. Vive la France et les États-Unis! 🇺🇲🇫🇷
That rifle has a cool metallic sound when it fires. I assume from the muzzle device ringing?
I can hear my old man yelling "if you take those damn glasses off maybe you'll hit something"
I'm French, you think it's super cool that you're trying out French weapons. And when I see the PGM patch, I think it's the pinnacle, weapons of extreme reliability and precision.
I wish a woman would look at me the way Ian looks at a French firearm.
that is a beautiful rifle. im glad they didn't give up on it.......
Scope adjusts about like the Soviet PSO-1 and equivalents, just with more screws holding it. Loosen the cap screw, adjust the turret, lock it back down.
And on the PSO, you can shoot it with the cap screw loose to adjust on the fly.
This rifle has an interesting ring to it. Maybe its just related to the audio in the video but definitely interesting.
It will be interesting to see how well it shoots with match ammo.
Hi from France, you make me remeber about shooting sessions with FAMAS, MAC50 and defensives handgrenades at Mourmelon military camp (65 kms side square) . But in febrary it's damn cold !
What i like the most about this gun is the look of it very strange but in a good way
Ammo in "snack-packs"?
Looks a LOT like the Oz-made stuff we sent down-range here "Downunder" in the late glory days of the L1A1. Highly regarded for consistency.
“On the Tabletop” is a great title for your regular episodes!
Ho oui monsieur! Que du bonheur ! Merci à vous.
I saw this run of imports listed online and noticed one was already spoken for. I had a hunch I’d be seeing a video pop up here soon lol.
That is sweet... A rifle I could happily live with. OK, quirks and technology make for great information videos, but simple dialled-in single-shot quality is a joy.
A french semi-auto FAMAS came up at auction in Switzerland today - went for $7,000 or so!!