History of the FR-F1 and FR-F2 Sniper Rifles: Henri Canaple Interview

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    Henri Canaple is a former St. Etienne and GIAT gunsmith now in private practice, who has extensive experience rebuilding and tuning FR-F1 and FR-F2 sniper rifles for the French military and competitive teams. He also designed his own precision rifle, which came close to being adopted by the French military in the late 1980s - to see more details on that rifle, head over to the blog post on ForgottenWeapons.com where I have attached some documentation on it:
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    M. Canaple was generous enough to share some of his time to speak to me about the history and development of French precision rifles, which I am happy to share with you today. Note that he speaks only French (which I do not), and while the interview starts out a bit choppy, we get the hang of it after a few minutes. Many thanks to Edouard L. for acting as translator for me and for providing the translated subtitles to the video!
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  • @genericpersonx333
    @genericpersonx333 7 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    24:53 Little is more satisfying to see than a man who was waxing eloquent about how essential fine tolerances are to precision rifles take the bolt of of one of the more precise rifles in the world and just thump it on a table to finish disassembling it. That is a man who knows what guns are really about! If it can't take a knock, it don't deserve to be shot! Thank you for bringing us this great man!

  • @JgM-ie5jy
    @JgM-ie5jy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Amazing.
    The French expert you interviewed taught me three things
    1) the muzzle brake vents must line up with the barrel grooves for better accuracy,
    2) barrel wear is concentrated at the breech end and at the muzzle, requiring tapering of the barrel at both locations,
    3) a tilting bolt cannot make perfect contact with the cartridge head - hence no "sniper" FAL.
    Plus a few heartfelt comments about stupid decisions made.
    And yes, the english subtitle accurately reflect the French. Good job.
    You are being taken seriously by a lot of people such as Ares and now by designers in another country - and the language barrier was actually no barrier at all.
    Looking forward to future interviews with other key designers - whatever the language.
    By the way, I also follow your book reviews - I especially appreciate your indication as to whether a book is likely to be a single-printing production. Man, you're getting expensive.

  • @Solsys2007
    @Solsys2007 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    (French) Il y a des choses qui devaient être dites sur l'histoire de notre industrie nationale, je suis très reconnaissant à Ian d'avoir organisé cette interview. En conséquence je viens de souscrire à une assistance par Patreon à la fois par récompense et pour lui permettre de continuer à faire ce travail essentiel, je vous invite à faire de même. Henri Canaple et d'autres ont des choses à dire :)
    (English) Some things about the history of French state industry had to be said. I am very thankful to Ian for having set up this interview. Consequently, I just pledged some support on his Patreon account, both to thank him and to allow him to continue this important work, I invite you to do the same. Henri Canaple and others still have some things left to tell :)

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Merci!

    • @poja82
      @poja82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      C'est clair que ca fait plaisir d'écouter l'histoire de l'armement francais avec Ian comme interlocuteur. Difficile de faire plus bon que ca.

  • @cheekslappinsaab
    @cheekslappinsaab 7 ปีที่แล้ว +835

    "gun jesus talks to French gun moses"

    • @genericdave8420
      @genericdave8420 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      On top of everything else, Henri seems such a fantastic down to earth guy. I just wish my French was better to not lose him on many of the terms and descriptions.

    • @Zorglub1966
      @Zorglub1966 7 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Hi,
      The guy who translated is very accurate, none of Mr Canaple's words are mistranlated.
      It's impressive.

    • @julienciampanelli3149
      @julienciampanelli3149 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Totally agree, translation is right!

    • @matdu1581
      @matdu1581 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      tellement vrai :)

  • @axldematt6747
    @axldematt6747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    j'ai eu le FR-F2 dans les mains pendants 10 ans sur mes 15 années de services avant de passer sur le PGM HECATE II
    c'est une arme redoutable extrêmement fiable et surtout vraiment très précise
    j'en garde un formidable souvenir

    • @teller1290
      @teller1290 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      15 yrs...would be needed time of service for retirement from FFL. I hear they changed it to 17 yrs some years ago.

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 7 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Henri needs to make a book with all his stories in it. Would be a great asset to the future of firearms. He clearly knows his stuff.

  • @brillenfux4687
    @brillenfux4687 7 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    From this point on I will refer to the place where I buy my ammo as the "Cartoucherie".

    • @brillenfux4687
      @brillenfux4687 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Roadrunner XB No, no, no you're not gonna take this fantasy away from me. I'm seeing cartridges laid out behind glass like pralines, and Cartouchessiers picking them up with little tongs. Glorious! The french are so much more refined!

    • @jasondoe2596
      @jasondoe2596 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      brillenfux thanks, this mental image made my day :D

    • @frankkrunk
      @frankkrunk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I agree with and fully support this fantasy.
      "Cartouchier", I think, would be the title of the proprietor. Like boulangerie = bakery, boulanger = baker. He would be a gruff man with a permanently red nose and a very limited tolerance of nonsense and modernity.
      His shy but incredibly beautiful daughter works behind the counter as a Cartouchiatrice. You will never work up the courage to ask her out, as the Cartouchier would classify this as nonsense, and you don't want to get on his bad side.

    • @ph43drus
      @ph43drus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Okay, I am now labeling my Lee Progressive "Cartoucherie"

    • @Jakovdred
      @Jakovdred 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The language is most romantic if you don't understand it.

  • @QuercyAnimalier
    @QuercyAnimalier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Une encyclopédie cet homme, je passerai des heures à l'écouter partager son savoir. Merci monsieur Canaple

  • @soldatdemarine4801
    @soldatdemarine4801 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used the FRF2 during my 15 years of service. This is the opinion of a comrade who used FRF1:
    "I do not agree too much on the usefulness of the thermal sleeve. After several shots with the F1, the barrel was heated and it greatly hindered the sight through the telescope, a disadvantage disappeared with the thermal sleeve of the F2."
    it is true that with the FRF2 we did not have this problem.
    Cordially .

  • @Matt_The_Hugenot
    @Matt_The_Hugenot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Translation note: polytechnician refers to graduates of France's ultra elite École Polytechnique, the school that traditionally monopolised the upper ranks of public service there.

    • @laurentpremel
      @laurentpremel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If I may; I'd precise that "X" comes second in rank behind E.N.A. (Ecole Nationale d'Administration / National School for Administration) in "feeding" public service with high level admins since "Polytechnique" provides rather high level technicians/engineers".

    • @Xouxi
      @Xouxi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laurentpremel most énarques went to polytechnique/scpo beforehand, not really a competition

    • @yannickramouillet3742
      @yannickramouillet3742 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Xouxi actually most of ENA students come from the ENS (École Normale Supérieure) or other Grandes Écoles

    • @Xouxi
      @Xouxi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yannickramouillet3742 Between 60% and 80% of ENA students come from scpo every year. Look it up.

  • @moelordkaito9891
    @moelordkaito9891 7 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    YES
    LIVING IN QUEBEC FINALLY HAS A USE

    • @Michael_Smith-Red_No.5
      @Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Poutine, yes.

    • @centblinde1450
      @centblinde1450 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kaito The Kanadian Same situation here xD

    • @dwaynetherock-hardjohnson5676
      @dwaynetherock-hardjohnson5676 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Kaito The Kanadian were the subtitles fairly accurate? Like, a good representation of context? I'm always curious about translations and if they loose some of the heart of what is said

    • @MrSharkybook
      @MrSharkybook 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Dwayne the 'Rock-Hard' Johnson I live in Ontario and I just finished my twelfth-grade French class this past year. Of course, Canadian French and French French is different and I didn't learn any firearm related terms at school (for obvious reasons), but as far as I can tell, it's right on point.

    • @ohcliffy
      @ohcliffy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Obvious reasons??? What the entire fuck are you talking about
      ??? Are they afraid of words now too?

  • @kabalder
    @kabalder 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That was absolutely astonishing. I've always wondered about the purpose of locking lugs on rifle bolts outside mechanical operating consistency - and here it was explained, in three sentences.

  • @ristoalanko9281
    @ristoalanko9281 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This kind of personal experience is invaluable in understanding how the "behind the curtains" development goes. Lots of the "engineering" is politics and management problems. Especially self taught "designers by birth" often have problems with military and "school engineer" managers. But documenting these personal histories is invaluable. Thanks again, Ian!

  • @SKEptic-mg2dd
    @SKEptic-mg2dd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Another excellent video. Aligning the openings in the flash hider with the lands of the barrel and determining the reasons for wear zones in the bore were fascinating.

  • @IK4MS
    @IK4MS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    As someone who is french and speaks both languages, this is actually pretty darn nice :p

    • @ciananmortem3127
      @ciananmortem3127 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Is the translation very accurate?

    • @sarrumac
      @sarrumac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yup, the old man was not very shy about his opinions!

    • @ciananmortem3127
      @ciananmortem3127 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you, that's very interesting, and I must say I've always admired the brutal honesty of older Frenchmen (My paternal Grandfather was in the French military and he was the same in many regards).

    • @Mousquetaire-du-Roi
      @Mousquetaire-du-Roi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ciananmortem3127 Yeah, some of the translations were nicer than what he said, still accurate, so no worries about that

  • @efdidier
    @efdidier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a descendant of gun makers from Saint Etienne, it is very moving to hear the specific accent from this city! Very interesting interview, thanks Ian!

  • @GlFeras
    @GlFeras 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Forgotten weapons is one of the coolest channels and I think that Ian does a fantastic job of showing off firearms and and firearm history in a way that makes interesting. Just pure goodness

  • @thegreenman2030
    @thegreenman2030 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I was never interested in French firearms so I wasn't sure if I would have been able to make it through 30 minutes of closed captioning. Boy was I wrong! This was excellent and I hope to hear more of his stories in the future.

  • @frankpasqua7706
    @frankpasqua7706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's amazing how specific this man's knowledge is to this particular rifle system

  • @Wolf_Larsen
    @Wolf_Larsen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely fascinating! I had been hoping for a deeper look into the FR-F1/2 for quite a while. It seems to be among the most well-liked precision rifles out there, even today. That's quite the achievement.

  • @stewrmo
    @stewrmo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I've never held a weapon. I have never even seen a weapon up close being from the UK. I also don't speak French. Why am I here then? Because I love everything Ian does and find it facinating. Thank you!

    • @idk-zy9ig
      @idk-zy9ig 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here. Hopefully i'll be able to own some of my own one day. Weapon laws in germany are ridiculous.

    • @simonferrer
      @simonferrer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you're interested in firearms in the UK, it's not as impossible as you think. Check out Callum on The English Shooting Channel here on TH-cam. He has all sorts of detailed information on British shooting clubs, applying for your Firearms Certificate, etc.

    • @MajorArtillary
      @MajorArtillary 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      As an American, I can tell you this; be careful in referring to firearms as "weapons" if you ever talk to an American. Some of my fellow Americans go insane at this and start screeching about how firearms are not weapons, but instead are "tools". They cannot be reasoned with, and if you ask them if swords, maces, and Mosin-Nagants are tools as well, their uninterpretable screeching will only intensify. Just a heads up, my friend.

    • @51WCDodge
      @51WCDodge 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      UK isn't the easiest place to get a FAC, but not impossible. The general idea is that people who are trusted with firearms should be responsible and law abiding. It's when a politician thinks they can get a vote out of hysteria the problems start.

    • @michaelashton8754
      @michaelashton8754 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      just join a gun club, it's easy when you meet the right people

  • @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998
    @prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks, Ian! One of the most interesting interviews; with Henri Canaple, a no-nonsense guy. Sadly, these experts are a rare breed, with lots of experience.

  • @alphaomega2937
    @alphaomega2937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really hope we get another interview with Henri canaple again i could listen for hour's i just watched 9 hole reviews on the fr-f1and it was very impressive

  • @SlimRhyno
    @SlimRhyno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so very much for this incredibly rare and valuable insight into a man and project which, I must admit, I was not very familiar with at all. Then again, that is precisely why your channel is perhaps my all time favorite gun channel on TH-cam! Thanks again to everyone involved, and please take care.

  • @theswissgunsmith2122
    @theswissgunsmith2122 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    @Ian, Solsys2007, and others: There are good reasons why the French small arms industry went the way of the dodo. Henri Canaple hints at quite a few, but unfortunately for the general public, does not elaborate much. As Ian knows, since this is the focus of his private collection, French small arms used to be, generally speaking, fairly advanced for their time, creative, and well built. Alas, the French small arms culture fell victim of the French "elite", who managed to kill the internal market (i.e. private gun ownership - and the passion that comes with it), to grossly mismanage the industry (i.e. closed all state factories and discouraged private businesses), to slow development processes down so much that by the time weapons were deployed, they were already obsolete. On top of that, they showed so little focus on the French armed forces' operational needs (if not downright contempt) that the few developments they allowed ended up impossible to sell internationally. Even license production of foreign designs ended up in disaster, as for the Beretta 92, a.k.a PAMAS G1, which came outrageously overpriced and awfully unreliable.

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Primitive Baptist Forum II no. The FAMAS is being replaced by the H&K 416. There are some SIG 551 and 552 (not sure if there are some 550). By the past France had SIG 540.

  • @paullenfant8661
    @paullenfant8661 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Je m'attendais vraiment pas à ce vous fassiez le détour jusqu'à nous pour une interview, très intéressant en tout cas 👍🏻

    • @clem74716
      @clem74716 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      comme ça fait plaisirs !

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 7 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    This should hold me over until Ian can get his hands on one of those rifles.

  • @jimvandemoter6961
    @jimvandemoter6961 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ian, this is an amazing video. how often can you actually sit down with the designer of a gun and have a real in depth interview. He seems like a very cool guy. I know some people might think he's egotistic, but I think he's proud of his design, and he should be.

  • @109268
    @109268 7 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    The description at the end of how firearm focused engineers were replaced with general focus engineers seems to mirror the SA 80 story, with similar disastrous results.

    • @lougrims
      @lougrims 7 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      If you know French schooling system there also an undertone of the classic "people from prestigious schools (école Polytechnique) vs people with less prestigious degrees but with practical experience".

    • @Matt_The_Hugenot
      @Matt_The_Hugenot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      lougrims Especially polytechniciens.

    • @jeremyshaw1
      @jeremyshaw1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Ah, wonderful to know office politics transcend borders and cultures.

    • @miguelangelsimonfernandez5498
      @miguelangelsimonfernandez5498 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      perhaps we need another real war to settle things back to real wisdom

    • @sarrumac
      @sarrumac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      H3x4r35 and the ESTP guy will rebuild the damn thing!

  • @gunner678
    @gunner678 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of the best ones yet! Fascinating guy, it was good to hear direct from the horses mouth and excellent questions from the usual presenter! Top quality!

  • @johnd0e25
    @johnd0e25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's amazing to see an interview like that, thanks a lot for all the work you have done regarding French gun history. Merci :)

  • @superbibibobo
    @superbibibobo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm impressed by the translator. Very rare to hear a french with such a good english accent.

  • @ruaway
    @ruaway 7 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    How did you manage to find Henri AND a translator with adequate terminology ??!! More of these PLEASE

    • @Se7enAte
      @Se7enAte 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I wouldn't think it'd be TOO hard to find a gun nut that has lived in both English and French speaking countries. After all the best way learn the intricacies of a language is to live somewhere people speak only that language. Or could just find a Canadian that works in the firearm business

    • @brillenfux4687
      @brillenfux4687 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      The legend goes some Frenchmen actually know English. Of course this is heavily contested by the french!

    • @TheBigOne0305
      @TheBigOne0305 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @brillenfux They are also very good at hiding that knowledge until after you have made a fool of yourself trying to remember what you learned in the one year of French you took back in 7th grade. Especially if they realize that you are German XD

    • @eddyguizonde401
      @eddyguizonde401 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you rang? born on the banks of the garonne, and i'm a qualified translator. i'm more of a knife nut, but hanging around with gun nuts (and having access to both french and english books), you get all the terminology quite quickly once you understand what the "thingamajig" you're holding is (iirc, that was a broken bolt-lock)

    • @gamesbok
      @gamesbok 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Eddy Guizonde
      I always find technical situations easier. You sort of know what people will say, you know what questions they might have, there is a context. It's social situations that are tough, people might say anything.

  • @ScottKenny1978
    @ScottKenny1978 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating that lining the vents in the muzzle brake up with the rifling matters!

  • @daktari
    @daktari 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    For those interested on going further into gun designs but who haven't learned technical French, I suggest getting a hold of JP Brunets "Dictionnaire de la Police et de la Pegre", it is full of technical gun terms.
    As a French native speaker, that's what I used when I started reading and translating gun manuals and tech specs. Should work well the other way around.

    • @balduir5259
      @balduir5259 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      daktari Merci beaucoup pour le conseil

  • @Anusideral
    @Anusideral 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Very good interview.
    It would have been really interesting to interview him on the whole MAS factory debacle, between the time they bought FN, to their closure. As it needs to be documented for history as one of the worst and most stupid industrial debacle in history.

  • @Seekles
    @Seekles 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you Ian, this is a very nice attention for us French fans. Much appreciated.

  • @arcantos9103
    @arcantos9103 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a really wonderful and special video! So cool to get into the head of a professional gun designer who helped create a precision military rifle such as this. Really awesome stuff Ian.

  • @dscrappygolani7981
    @dscrappygolani7981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Normally, I wouldn't ask this of you, Mr McCullum. You have a busy life. But if you ever get a chance to speak with this French gentleman here, please tell him that he is a true craftsman, a maestro of his trade. Also, thank you for the interview.

  • @somedude3766
    @somedude3766 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bravo! I greatly appreciated this video, since I was raised in French and English is my second language. No translation required!
    But beyond that, the gentlement demonstrated great knowledge (ex. The muzzle /threads relation) throughout.
    Thank you Ian for having preserved the original voice of the gentlemen. To many videos like that will do a voice over translation. Subtitles are perfect, and it is a bonus if you speak both languages.
    Another GREAT video from you, by far the best channel among those I know.
    Merci Ian, Nic, Montreal, Canada

  • @louisgerard5978
    @louisgerard5978 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellente interview d'un très grand armurier ! Merci !

  • @nat040496
    @nat040496 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Easily some of the most gorgeous looking rifles ever made. Never knew a whole lot about these guns but always loved how they look.

  • @theharbinger2573
    @theharbinger2573 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff. There is far more to making an accurate firearm than I had previously thought. I just love learning these sorts of things. Thank you Ian and Henri.

  • @kyleno4mk27
    @kyleno4mk27 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff Ian! Hope for more from Mr. Canaple! Things made from wood, steel, and even paper can be around for generations, but the men who shaped them are disappearing fast.

  • @forlornfoe
    @forlornfoe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is amazing, both the interview and the translation are superb. Many thanks for organizing & putting this together.

  • @KurwaRomek
    @KurwaRomek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ooooh baby merci beaucoup. A video on the PGM Hecate /Ultima Ratio would be awesome

  • @briarus1000
    @briarus1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    a: what a beautiful looking rifle. B: what an interesting topic. thanks Ian and thank you Mr. Canaple

  • @Nerolighting13
    @Nerolighting13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ça fait plaisir un français sur cette chaîne !

  • @Matt_The_Hugenot
    @Matt_The_Hugenot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've recently been rewatching Ian's older interviews from five years ago and was thinking I'd like to see more, this is just what I wanted.

  • @sarrumac
    @sarrumac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing work Ian. Thank you very much this was an incredible work!

  • @yappojilla
    @yappojilla 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great interview ian. your gun designer interviews are some of my favorites and very inspiring. thanks!

  • @KapteinFruit
    @KapteinFruit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You make such great content, Ian. I watch nearly every video you make. This old timer, designer, was very interesting to listen too. You should make more videos like this one, if you get the chance to.

  • @matchesburn
    @matchesburn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    VERY rare opportunity to get an interview with someone that was behind the design of the firearms in question. Great video, man.

  • @miguelangelsimonfernandez5498
    @miguelangelsimonfernandez5498 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another very fine video and a delightful interview.

  • @MrSqu1nty
    @MrSqu1nty 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a fascinating video, I love getting information and opinions from those that were there. I want more, when possible! I am supposed to be changing my bikes oil right now, instead I am watching while glued to my seat.

  • @justdna4385
    @justdna4385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A wonderful video. I learned a lot. I plan on watching it multiple more times.

  • @bh9229
    @bh9229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, that was fascinating, and thank you for saving some knowledge which may have otherwise been forgotten, forever.
    VR
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  • @CheshireTomcat68
    @CheshireTomcat68 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was great. So well done and many thanks to Edouard L. for facilitating such an interesting interview AND subtitles.

  • @pipss2669
    @pipss2669 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Superb video in every way ! :D
    It also shows that the language-barrier can be overcome. As I do understand french reasonably well, this was also a good opportunity to test my language skills XD
    DOUBLE WHAMMY !

    • @pipss2669
      @pipss2669 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol so true XD

    • @jeremyshaw1
      @jeremyshaw1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Older people have a nice tendency of speaking slowly and repeating concepts, to help us understand their speach. :D

    • @dollyvintage8558
      @dollyvintage8558 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a native French speaker, I must say that M. Canople was very hard to follow! Kept changing topics halfway through his sentences, and also used an unusually technical and formal vocabulary. Don't fret if you couldn't keep up - he is not good French practice material ;)
      Great video Ian! As always! And many thanks to the translator too :)

  • @ScreamingSturmovik
    @ScreamingSturmovik 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MAS-36 is such a good looking rifle it's cool that they keep the aesthetics of it for a modern rifle

  • @arcantos9103
    @arcantos9103 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing a guy disassemble an original prototype of the gun he designed is pretty freaking cool

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh30 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent episode, Schultz and Larsen M54, 60, 65.68 also has rear locking lugs ,and Steyr M,S,L , and Remington 788 also. Similar story i have heard of other good makers who designed good rifles and then managment and other came in and it was completely changed .

  • @jmkiller7128
    @jmkiller7128 7 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    bon à savoir que vous alliez voir des spécialistes en France pour une arme française. good vidéo

    • @paulturner4503
      @paulturner4503 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      jm killer Euh oui oui où est la toilette

    • @Anusideral
      @Anusideral 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Avec Ian on est à des années lumières de l'amateurisme de la majorité des chaines françaises d'armes sur youtube.

    • @jmkiller7128
      @jmkiller7128 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pablo Punchwood ??

    • @raymartinez4596
      @raymartinez4596 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      H3x4r35 royale with cheese?

    • @PhotoArtBrussels
      @PhotoArtBrussels 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @pablo lols

  • @leso1402
    @leso1402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulations to the translator who did an excellent job ! Thank you Ian for this video.

    • @alexandrelarsac9115
      @alexandrelarsac9115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      His french sounds very much like "Bloke on the range". Wouldn't be surprised if it was him translating.

  • @mrd1433
    @mrd1433 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ian is what the History and Military Channel's on cable wish they were.

  • @PassionOld
    @PassionOld 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merci Ian pour cette rencontre ! Thanks a lot for this interview !

  • @johnh4957
    @johnh4957 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks to YT stumbled upon this which really answered many questions that seem still hard to be found(or disseminated)

  • @milesfinch
    @milesfinch 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As a heterosexual male, i feel i'm falling in love with this bloke!!! Who else would tackle a foreign speaking expert and supply translation and CC on such a niche firearm. This guy constantly brings great, insightful, knowledgeable and, above all, comedic value to all videos he produces. Give this guy a medal and become a patreon.

  • @AdrenalineJunkieXL
    @AdrenalineJunkieXL 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    finally some insider knowledge from the French military I think it's time to break out the Rosetta stone Ian since your such a big fan of french rifles and also I find it surprising how much he's referring to the garand I'm guessing they liked the m1

  • @thebotrchap
    @thebotrchap 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Nice to hear from the old guard of firearms designers. I did cringe when the translator translated "receiver" to "receveur" in French🙄. The correct word is "boîtier" my good man!

    • @jodc2760
      @jodc2760 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      J'ai tiqué aussi ! Nice video BTW. Thanks Ian

    • @sarrumac
      @sarrumac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Certains mecs, trop en contact avec les américains, font ce genre d'erreurs.

    • @laurentpremel
      @laurentpremel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      On peut être traducteur et avoir des lacunes en terminologie technique, et M. CanaplE utilise, évidemment, le terme "boîtier".
      Donc les francophones, un peu de mansuétude, de grâce ! :D

  • @MirageIV
    @MirageIV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Merci qui ? Merci Ian !

    • @thehalfslav9043
      @thehalfslav9043 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      MERCI JAQUIE ET MICHEL!

    • @smoldoggy1005
      @smoldoggy1005 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Michael Jackson hated black people

    • @sarrumac
      @sarrumac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      dankspaghettilord he liked kids though.

    • @Aaaaaaaartem414
      @Aaaaaaaartem414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@smoldoggy1005 He didin't said Mickael Jackson. Look Jaquie et michelle on internet

  • @ScottRuggels
    @ScottRuggels 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting how the bolt disassembles just like that of a Type 99 Arisaka. Very efficient.

    • @loyp4328
      @loyp4328 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Scott Ruggels The MAS 36 is strongly influenced by the Arisaka, as very well explained in Steve Jackson's The Last Bolt Gun

  • @RukaSubCh
    @RukaSubCh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how the man described his experiences, that was amazing to learn about what an amazing guy.

  • @RasdenFasden
    @RasdenFasden 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think Ian might want to start learning French!
    Hearing Henri say Garand in the correct French manner is oddly pleasing to the ears.

    • @guigui78340
      @guigui78340 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wait it's suppose to be pronounced with french accent?

    • @wowo666
      @wowo666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      sugar glider John Garand was born a french canadian. So yeah that's technically the right way to pronounce it.

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I am working on learning French, actually. :)

  • @travisdutra8225
    @travisdutra8225 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've never been this early to a Forgotten Weapons video lol vids pretty good as far as I've seen, very interesting

  • @poja82
    @poja82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I come from time to time to watch this, so much to learn.

  • @fritzkuhne2055
    @fritzkuhne2055 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    please do more interviews with gun desingners! especially old ones may not live long enough to tell their stories
    these interviews are better than any book imo
    keep it up

  • @theswissgunsmith2122
    @theswissgunsmith2122 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Ian, to make sense of Henri Canaple’s strange stories and
    bitter speech, you must understand the context. After the Algerian War, which
    ended up with a failed military coup, the French Army was pretty much
    decapitated, and good generals replaced with weak ones. The procurement agency,
    the DGA, seized the opportunity to pretty much confiscate the design process.
    The military ended up having no role in weapons design. They would issue basic
    specifications (“Fiche de Caractéristiques Militaires”), then wait patiently
    until field trials, where nothing significant could be changed anymore. This
    explains why Mr Canople has no idea what type of ammo the soldiers used, or
    whether they liked the weapon or not. He simply had no contacts with the end users,
    like most of the industry. With the DGA full of very arrogant “military
    engineers” with no military knowledge at all, who wanted to rule on both
    military procurement and the industry, design decisions were taken on the basis
    of industrial concerns only. This explains why, as Canople explains, they
    wanted to make do with leftovers from the MAS 36, rather than acquiring and
    developing what was really required. Indeed, for decades, the French Army got
    plagued, across the board, with equipment desiged by engineers and for
    engineers, with little concern for operational issues. French soldiers had to
    become very, very creative to operate their over-engineered and overpriced
    equipment. A trend that is still largely going on. This is how the French small
    arms industry went down completely.

    • @Zorglub1966
      @Zorglub1966 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Très bien expliqué. Merci.

    • @theswissgunsmith2122
      @theswissgunsmith2122 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mais de rien. Toujours heureux de partager ces douloureux souvenirs. ;-)

    • @sarrumac
      @sarrumac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Swiss Gunsmith saletés d'énarques et autres X.... toujours a côté de la plaque.

    • @laurentpremel
      @laurentpremel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brillante démonstration quant à la façon dont des hiérarques ont torpillé l'industrie française d'armement mais je tique sur les "bons" généraux opposés à de supposés faibles. 1962, c'est après l'arrivée "musclée" d'un certain de Gaulle en 58, non ? Je vois un coup de balai entre vieille et jeune garde, avec pour "corollaire", entre autres, l'échec de la CED en 1952.
      De plus, les avatars qu'a subis M. Canaple, c'est fin années 1980 - début années 1990, me semble-t-il. Il a lui-même assisté à la fin des manufactures de Saint-Etienne. Enfin, Dassault, GIAT industries ou Thomson CSF, parmi d'autres, ont connu et connaissent de beaux jours, quelques noms que portent aujourd'hui ces fleurons ;)
      Comme le dit lui-même M. Canaple, le Famas pouvait encore tenir fort honorablement son rang, mais qui veut d'une arme qui a plus de 30 ans? Pas l'Armée Française, en tout cas :D

    • @DC2022
      @DC2022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@laurentpremel le problème du FAMAS ne vient pas de l'âge de l'arme, mais de l'âge des armes en service. Elles ne sont plus fabriquées depuis les années 90, le stock de pièces détachées est dramatiquement bas au point que la verte a réquisitionné tous les FAMAS de France et de Navarre et que refaire des pièces coûte un bras (un peu comme pour nos Leclercs d'ailleurs). Ce n'est pas un problème d'obsolescence mais un problème d'âge réel des outils eux mêmes. Jusqu'à il y a quelques années (et je suis sûr qu'on peut encore en trouver dans les kits de secours) il y avait des pistolets MAC 50 en dotation. Les derniers ayant été fabriqués en... 1970! Au point que sur certains les chargeurs ne tenaient plus en place et qu'il fallait les retenir avec les moyens du bord.
      Après, oui il y a aussi la notion de prestige de certains généraux de salon et politiques pour qui cela ne coûte rien, mais dans l'affaire le remplacement du FAMAS n'est pas spécialement une mauvaise chose. Qu'il soit remplacé par le H&K416F ça par contre, c'est une autre affaire. Les CPA l'ont trouvé bon, les RPIMa aussi et ce sont loin d'être des manchots, mais était ce le meilleur choix? Peut être un élément politique vu le mariage NEXTER/KMW.

  • @TheNetsrac
    @TheNetsrac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video Ian. Always nice to get the history and info directly from the source, whenever possible.
    I wish I had learned french back in 7-9 grade in school, but my mother insisted that I should learn German instead :-(
    I got nothing against the German language, but never got any good at it and French would have been much more useful imo

  • @Contribuablevener
    @Contribuablevener 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ça fait plaisir de voir une vidéo FW en Français.

  • @honestly108
    @honestly108 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've always loved the furniture of the F1, it's just nice.

  • @trumble7766
    @trumble7766 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, I am not a French speaker, i took about 5 minutes of French before I chose to learn Spanish which I sadly have forgotten most of... But the subject matter kept me engaged and intrigued enough to sit through 30 minutes of subtitles. I know English is predominantly a mix of German, French, and Latin, but I find it funny just how much I could pick up what I was hearing before I saw the subtitle pop up, and the same with the comments to the video below in French, I can get the gist of most of it.

  • @jumperharz6270
    @jumperharz6270 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Camera / cutting work results in an absolutely fantastic way to make this video nice to watch. Great work. Translation is spot on aswell. You amaze me again and again.

  • @jeffreymarshall5971
    @jeffreymarshall5971 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bit about the alignment of the flash hider w.r.t. the rifling grooves is great. I'd love to have the time to test it myself :)

  • @godemperormeow8591
    @godemperormeow8591 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Learning French and guns, all in one channel.

  • @Olivier-cr8ri
    @Olivier-cr8ri ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinant ! Étant trés fan des vidéos de Ian je me rends compte que trés peu de personnes savent exactement comment les armes fonctionnent, précisement. Par exemple, lors d'une interview de Christian Prouteau ( patron et créateur du Gign ), celui-ci relayait l'information selon laquelle l'appendice terminal du canon du Frf2 servait à régler l'harmonique du canon, ceci expliquant sa grande précision. Et aujourd'hui, par la bouche même du créateur de l'arme, on apprend qu'il n'en est rien et que cette précision est la conséquence de l'alignement des rayures avec les évents du frein de bouche ! Une leçon qu'on pourrait sans doute élargir à bien d'autres sujets...Fascinant et un peu effrayant : trés peu de gens SAVENT. ( Mais beaucoup s'expriment ).

  • @florian2199
    @florian2199 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's quite surprising but very pleasant to see a video in French in your channel, especially for a rifle like the FR-F1. I hope you will shoot one one day and show us his internal features.

  • @PhotoArtBrussels
    @PhotoArtBrussels 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PS: Translation was excellent! I'm from Belgium, so we are used to some languages here, dutch (majority), french and german (very small part) (the 3 official languages of our small country) ... and English of course! ;-)

  • @RaduB.
    @RaduB. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ça a eté très intéressant!... Et instructive.
    That was very interesting!... And informative.
    Merci! / Thanks!

  • @TerryMazerolle
    @TerryMazerolle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is amazing! A great historical record and so interesting. Thank you

  • @scurlcube
    @scurlcube 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man its super cool that you are doing this Ian, really cool for everyone. Thanks again!

  • @dwaynetherock-hardjohnson5676
    @dwaynetherock-hardjohnson5676 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a super cool video, seeing something described in the tongue that it was built in has a bit of a special charm

  • @mannyb2619
    @mannyb2619 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    ~Translating what Ian just said~ That made me crack up.

  • @frankpasqua7706
    @frankpasqua7706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job Ian you asked all the questions I wanted to ask especially whether there was a specific design characteristic that allowed for extreme accuracy as well as lightweight I was thinking of that question literally as you asked it thank you

  • @asphaltmemories4597
    @asphaltmemories4597 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the informative interview. The FR F1 is a very slick design and Id love to see a shooting video on one, but just like a military grade FAMAS, it'll be quite the unicorn. Really enjoying your extensive French small arms series of video's in general, there not usually widely seen or appreciated. Looking forward to your MAS 38 live fire video.

  • @ChaosPootato
    @ChaosPootato 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The two-way translation thing is really cool for French people interested in guns. You're a cool guy Ian, merci!

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved the look of this rifle in "worlds military weapons" when I was a kid.
    Great subject, and what a fascinating interview!

  • @BuntMeister66
    @BuntMeister66 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent product Ian, enjoy real world discussion and stories about developing different firearms.

  • @MikeBaxterABC
    @MikeBaxterABC 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video!

  • @OlujaDoTokija
    @OlujaDoTokija 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this interview, it was really interesting to watch. I hope we can see more interviews with weapon designers, be those weapons forgotten or not, presented by you in the future.