Line6 HX ONE | Am I crazy for loving it!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
- This might be the best news for Helix fans who love running big pedalboards. Line6 just released the HX ONE, which features EVERY SINGLE HELIX EFFECT in a pedalboard-friendly, stereo unit. For folks like me who love building big boards with individual effects, the HX ONE is perfect because it gives me access to everything I could want without monopolizing too much space or being stuffed with too many unused features and sounds. But what do YOU think? Is the HX ONE for you? Drop a comment below and join the conversation!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro Sketch
02:20 Introduction/Overview
03:14 Disclosure
05:11 Why I Love the HX ONE
13:22 Agree/Disagree?
13:55 FLUX
15:07 Dynamic Plate
17:14 Retro Reel
18:46 Tremolo/Autopan
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I think the problem is that for some folks, if it says Line 6 then they automatically assume it is a multi-fx modeler. This is more akin to the Eventide H9, but much cheaper.
totally agree. the h9 is a good comparison...much larger catalog of effects and about half the price.
Yeah its their version of the eventide h-9 ! Why are people so mad about this do u think?!
@@Stereostupid I think it's primarily because for about $50 more, you can get an HX Effects on the used market; and, you get 6 times the number of effects at once. If the HX One could do three effects, or even just two effects at one time, no one would be hating on it. I was late to the Line 6 party. I bought in about 2-3 weeks ago. And, I was going to get the HX One, but it just made more sense to get the HX Effects on the used market, which I did get for $350. It was definitely the right move for me.
its not cheap. compare it to a used hxstomp for 400. flow is a nice feature they should have implemented on their products befor. modulating modulation is nothing new. option paralysed guitarists have ruined the market an r&d buy paying to much for single algo digital pedals. this has to end. its just the same dumb dsp chip running a dsp. analog boutique pedal makers have all the cost and charge 200-300. this fell out of the ass of some asian factory designed by some office-poopers in us. lame product.
@@dasczwo got my hx one for 250$ on sale and have seen them used on ebay for 200-230, so you can pay less than the msrp just by searching around. It is cheap for a pedal that can do everything 250 excellent effects. Just one strymon pedal which does only one effect costs almost twice as much new. Also, where are you seeing a good condition hx stomp for 400? Have yet to see it for less than 500.
I cannot understand the backlash on this pedal. I have had a M5 on my board for like 10 years as my cover my bases/jack of all trades pedal that my other pedals don't cover. Been waiting for Line 6 to make a new M5 for years, it is that vital to me. I will buy at least one of these with no hesitation at all.
I'm right there with you. I think we're kind of in an age where expectations for gear have risen so high that we kind of expect every possible feature to be squeezed into every pedal. I think it's a fantastic essentially "reboot" of the M5 and a really convenient way to grab any of the HX effects catalog in a small package.
Maybe it could cost 200u$ instead of 300u$ based on another hx products
I suspect the backlash is primarily from existing modeler owners who want an upgraded modeler (versus pedalboard/amp players). Line6 are victims of their own success.
For a stereo pedal with the Flux feature $299 is very reasonable market value without even beginning to talk about the variety of effects and use cases.
Beyond that, Line 6 has to be very careful pricing new products in a way that doesn’t render current product lines obsolete. A lot of companies shoot themselves in the foot metaphorically by trying to make every single product do everything, have every option, and appeal to the widest audience possible. Everyone would love the full helix packed into a single pedal profile, but that would encroach on the other products market space.
The HX stomp already does what I see most people wanting the hx one to do.
al love the M5, and was also looking forward for a smaller version, I bought this one but the M5 is still better. The HX One misses some basic functions like saving the presets in bypass position. I hope they will include that soon on the next firmware update. In simplicity, the M5 is still better. And I think it should be cheaper too. I have it and so far a little disappointing, but waiting for the updates.
This is great, a long overdue update to the old M5 Stompbox Modeller
Yeah essentially that. Nice and compact, and honestly just having all the L6 sounds in one place is really nice.
This is the perfect Swiss Army knife pedal. I rarely need crazy modulation, but when I do it’s very annoying. This fits all the weird needs without taking up my whole board. Or being power hungry like the stomp.
Totally agree - I’m in that same boat. And yeah, more standard mA draw is a big plus!
Pretty sure I'll buy this as it'll work perfect with my setup. Updated M5.. bring it on !
totally! At what, *half* the size of the original M5? Nice.
I sold a Chase Bliss Warped Vinyl and bought the HX1. I don't regret that move at all. I love this pedal.
Glad to hear that! Yeah , the WV is cool , but man you get SO many good sounds in the HX One, including some really cool standard and lo-fi chorus-y sounds, I don't think I'd miss WV.
Exactly why I just purchased one. Been down the multi effect road many times but enjoy it more for home use. Too many options and I only need a few effects. Plus when you incorporate them with your regular pedals they sometimes suck a bit of tone or add some that you don’t like. The HX one seems to be a great concept. How often do you use a phaser, a harmonizer, pitch drop etc.. Here you have a small footprint and access to sounds that in my case are sometimes called for. Especially if you are called on to play a wide variety of styles. Great video.
100% - those are exactly the reasons I love this. And it's also a fun avenue for "this song needs something but I don't know what" and scrolling to find something expected or unexpected to fit a part or layer.
Maybe I’m strange but I just use it as my current standalone reverb pedal. The plate and room are lovely… lots of people like the helix verbs … I run a low mix anyway so I can’t notice a difference between the One and my old strymon flint.. a two trick pony .. And it’s half the price, so I set it and forget it.
Plus if I ever need some other whacky sound or an eq solution for my acoustic .. it’s all in there.
I had a stomp but didn’t use most of the functionality.
I’m happy … One works for me.
Great review! I'll admit I was skeptical at first but I definitely see the many great uses for this as opposed to their other offerings. One thing I feel like isn't mentioned enough in other reviews is that the flux function really makes it a two-preset pedal rather than just one sound. I'd compare the HX One to the new Strymon V2 pedals. Same-ish size, two variations of a sound at the ready, midi-accessable presets, and like you mentioned, you're not limited to "it's only a reverb pedal". The ability to have the entire Line 6 library for $299 is pretty impressive.
The ONLY thing I wondered, and this is pure speculation, is that it felt to me like this NOT having amp modeling to compete with the Iridium/UA/Walrus modelers felt like Line 6 conceding that their amp modeling isn't as good as the others. Again, I run a Helix and am COMPLETELY satisfied with my tone in every single way. I know the HX Stomp already exists, but even that is a little big for some people, especially compared to the tiny footprint of the Walrus Audio ampsims. Maybe there isn't enough demand, but I think this being able to run an amp/cab/ir would have made it even more incredible of a swiss army knife. Maybe there were technical limitations.
I don't have any experience with the L6 stuff at all except the DL4. But this seems really cool to me for all the options you have in a small pedal and the flux feature. I don't get all the outrage. I think it could fit really well in my setup - it's like a Swiss army knife.
I've been trying to really condense my pedalboard; 3 must haves right now outside of drive section are Flint, Volante, and a Univibe. I ditched my analog delays and I've been really indecisive about whether or not I can squeeze another type of modulation + another bigger reverb. I've been thinking about rebuying the Mercury7 and Deco (both pedals I've owned and sold :D) but this guy is a major contender now!
Honestly this pedal has all the effects the helix has and I would say the helix has the best modulation/delays/verbs in any of the modelers. You see people covet the mm4 and dl4….. all those effects are in this pedal!
Haha I was shocked reading your comment. I am 100% in the EXACT same boat lol. Keeping my Volante and big box Univibe and was reconsidering rebuying the Deco, but decided to try this HX One instead. How’d it go for you??!!
@@AM-sc2gy So far I haven't made a decision 😅. I've had most of my pedals/amps put away for about a year of raising puppy; I just take out 2 pedals at a time and plug into 1 small amp. I've been really trying to decide what to keep and what to sell + which pedals I want to add etc. but for the time being any double reverb sounds I want I just cover with the Flint + Polara for the time being (or I use the Volante spring for a secondary).
I think this pedal looks really cool. I have an amp I love, so the multi-fx with amp models seem wasted on me, but this would allow me to have a lot of virtual pedals for those times I want something beyond what my amp and few existing pedals can do.
totally! I agree. Seems like it would work well even for folks who use effects sparingly...to just pick and choose some they need situationally and navigate to them when needed.
Wouldn’t you be better off with a HX Stomp though? It’s slightly bigger and could run delay modulation and reverb etc?
@@waynedoherty7758for certain people or certain workflows the Stomp provides more power and functionality, but for folks like myself who just don't need/want to sting multiple effects together but DO want access to specific HX effects, the HX ONE (and its price tag) make a lot more sense. I don't wanna spend 699 on a stomp because I wouldn't end up using the amp model live and don't generally need full effects chains so it's overkill.
Just bought mine. Is there a better way to jump presets? I don't like having to hit the button 6 times to reach no. 6 or pressing two together and scroll using either button while looking at a tiny list
I have the M5,but will be picking this up tomorrow.
I imagine you'll dig it if you're an M5 user. Feels like an updated M5 that's about half the size.
@@AmbientEndeavors got it yesterday. I'll playing with it this weekend 😁😁😁
@@AmbientEndeavors plus I got it on sale for $250 at Guitar Center 🎸.
When do you think they'll update their JM4 ? That thing was awesome. I like this new HX ONE , might get one too. ThX for the Vid. !
They the particle verb. It's really fun.
Yes! Gotta circle back to another batch of those sounds. That one is sometime mA tricky for me to dial in or find the exact context for in my stuff, but I remember liking it.
Thanks for the review. Nice. Can I ask.... Can the Dynamic Reverbs also be used in a Mono rather than Stereo set up? Cheers
Yes, if you just plug in the left output, it will sum the audio to mono.
@@SethDStanley Thanks a lot. I may end up buying this for use as a utility pedal and the glitch delay. Cheers
I've got a Helix and a Catalyst amp, may as well buy this as well.
Might as well!
Very cool. Where were you placing it in your chain for the video?
It was between the ua starlight and golden. For the tremolo picking I was using the dynamic hall so golden was off. I think I’ll end up running it before my delays when I revamp my board a little to find a more permanent place for it.
@@AmbientEndeavors Thanks. I'm interested in this as a kind of Swiss Army knife but mainly towards the end of the chain for freeze and filter effects before my looper.
I am looking for a Freeze pedal and the Line 6 One has that effect but I caanot find a comparison with the EHX freeze. If it is as good as the EHX I would go for the Line 6 since it has much more effects. Do you have a Freeze pedal to compare it? Thanks
I do not! :/ paging EHX ☎️
I think that I would prefer some kinda "Hx two" for stacking at least a couple of pedals at a time. Looks and sounds great though.
Makes sense. What the H90 does essentially. I think the challenge there is 2x the processing power and perhaps a significant amount more circuitry to make it happen = higher price tag. I like how they kept it really accessible and compact. I think a major strength of this unit is the UI is really quite easy to get around. Limited menu diving, etc.
Does this unit have built in presets to sample the effects, or do you have to create your own?
There are default presets ya!
For deeper editing does it require a pc ?
Or can an android mobile device step in ?
Can I plug a morely volume pedal ok into this ?
Nice to hear your thoughts on it.
to my knowledge you can only access hx librarian on a pc via USB. It doesn't allow for editing, but you can store/save/rearrange presets via the Librarian. I find the physical pedal interface very easy to use and navigate. Morley volume would work in front of, or in a "loop" of the pedal or perhaps as an expression with the right cabling.
@@AmbientEndeavorsthanks for the advice.
This has an effects loop right? Is it possible to put your drives in the effects loop and dynamically position them before or after the pedal?
I believe so. It does have an effects loop - you can configure the Right out and in to be send and returns for a mono effects loop - and then you can also select whether your preset is PRE or POST.
@@AmbientEndeavors awesome thanks! I just bought a used one for $250 because of your videos.
Awesome I'm going to buy 6 of these and make my own multi effects board! Oh, wait... Line 6 already makes a 6 channel effects board, but for $1,000 Less!🤣Way to go Line 6 excellent marketing tactics!👏
lol
Im thinking of getting this as my octave pedal. I really want a midi controllable octave pedal. The walrus audio octave is killer but no midi. So I figure I could recreate those sounds in this and have all controlled by a midi controller.
lots of fun stuff you could do with pitch with the FLUX function too!
@@AmbientEndeavors man that would be super cool.
Can the hx stomp or helix get all these sounds ?or is there anything particular to just this pedal ?
I believe all of these effects are in the HX Stomp and Helix units. This is essentially an effects only, one at a time grab from Helix.
Could this replace a
El Capistan for delays. But also could use for tremelo etc?
Big fan of the transistor tape and I think it gets real close to the el cap thing
can you freeze or infinite sustain with Flux? Can you have a latch toggle or just momentary?
You can set the rise and fall times to immediate, so it essentially makes it a latching change
@@AmbientEndeavors what about the fall time? Does It has the option infinite? Like an eventide for example
With this release, I hope the M5 will be cheaper in the used market
Everyone that got their tone hats in a twist and forgot about the M5 right?
If you dont like it dont buy it😂 im getting it just for the retro, and trems. Flux is a bonus! I recently had a helix and switched to pedal board and amps. I really missed the trem and mods now i dont have to buy a stome to get 3 effects i like lol. Taking the mobius off the board and slapping this on!
Some of the youtube guitar guy drama over this was either simple clickbait, drama for drama's sake, or folks who are very unaware of the world outside of their use case echo chamber. It's clearly an update and replacement for the M5 which still lives on tons of session and even well known professional player boards. I've had a Helix. I've had a stomp. Neither were my jam. I'm a tube amp and pedal board guy. The HX One is useful for me, as someone who wants to record or jam with an occasional effect , but doesn't want 9 modulation pedals, a massive controller, tons of sub menus, or hours tweaking for sounds. It's a swiss army knife, that takes up a single pedal space, using standard 9V power supply. They're going to sell a ton and they guys claiming its a pedal NO ONE asked for, and NO ONE needs, are going to look very dumb.
haha totally. definitely meant for a more specific user and context...and for me personally it's exactly like you said - a great way to get access to a ton of solid effects as a "Swiss army knife"
I’d gladly trade my HX Stomp for two HX Ones.
yeah for many I think that'd be an attractive trade.
Why! Though?? Lol
@@mattg1094 well, if you don't need the amp models and want a little more flexibility , separate stereo fx you an place at different points in your chain, etc. could see some appeal for some!
@@mattg1094 Right, I use Helix Native for direct recording (so I don't need the Stomp for amp models). I only use the Stomp for some modulation and reverb on my pedalboard to augment some of my other modulation and reverb pedals, and usually only one or two effects at a time (like a poor man's H90). So I'd rather have two HX Ones to put one with my other modulation pedals and the other with my reverb pedals. Point being, the Stomp is great, but for my use case two HX Ones would be more flexible. Plus the Flux feature could be useful, particularly for modulation and reverb effects.
I was writing a longer comment and youtube crashed. You can’t save the presets in bypass. Please tell them to update that asap. Missing a very basic and important function there. I have both, the M5 is still better. Just bigger…
Yes you are
…elaborate please
I found helix FX to be too cold, too digital. Tell me I’m wrong because I need one pedal to do modulation like phaser, flanger, roto. All of the all in one pedals like Mobius all present that same issue which is why I’ll likely go analog
I can understand that feeling ; on the whole, I generally will gravitate toward analog sounds for modulations and some delays, etc. But HX presents you with SO many options in each category that I have found something I like in many if not all of them. And it's always a bit of a cost benefit / tradeoff when considering single analog effects vs. a multi option digital unit like this.
@@AmbientEndeavors do you honestly believe the HX ones’ modulation FX are more analog sounding than other best of breed multifx competitors like Strymon, synthenasia?
No not saying that, first off I havent deep dove a comparison in the modulations, but also more so saying I personally don’t have as picky ears for stuff like trem or chorus/flange because i use it so sparingly in my live playing. I’ll trade the 5-10% of sound quality for the flexibility to have the variety of effects hx one offers.
@@amremorseenjoy your sufficiency
@@amremorseright, and you should care about the song. You obviously just care less about tone which is your prerogative, as is my prerogative to prefer analog pedals/tone. A recommendation: be less judgmental and more kind when approaching people. You may find life is a bit more enjoyable when not making it all about you. Ciao.
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The pedal is cool ..i just think its way to expensive..
Interesting! What feels like a good price for it?
@@AmbientEndeavors I mean for a single effect it's just to much for me..If it was at least dual effects but like that I just think 320euros is just to much .maybe around 220 I would think about it.
flux should have been included long ago. slowly companies start inmplementing it. modulating modulation is an old concept from modular synthesis. WE guitarists are just a bit slow up there. and we pay too much for lame single algo dsp based pedals. eventide, strymon line 6 uafx slicing out algos one pedal a time. no real innovastion. uafx started with "buy this box, replace your whole studio" then understood that guitarists will buy every box just to fill their room if they feel it sounds like a studio.. 300 is just too much. 150. ok. this shouldnt have cost more then a tc flashback delay. oh tc, who killed you? they were pushing the pedal envelope, not the price bracket. miss miss.
Line6 is really milking this one technology. Where’s the HX2?!
a vague quote from my L6 rep is “..these things take time…”
@@AmbientEndeavors sure, sure… gotta recoup development costs for 10+ years… ;)
Are you cold ? I think you very cold !!!!
20°F here today so yes, I tend to be cold these winter months