@@robertt9342I mean it's true tho. This guy has a regular viewerbase, I seriously doubt most people watching this intend to build anything similar to this. We aren't "Normals" 98% of people watching this are PC hardware porn addicts.
Watching this video on my Chopin with a 3400G in it, had it 4+ years and great to see it getting some love. Bought the ASRock DeskMini vesa mount to attach it to the back of a monitor and replaced the PSU fan with a Noctua to eliminate some slightly annoying noise. Fitted a Noctua Low profile Cooler for the CPU and it really is a great general work machine that's served me fantastically well
I had the same config for a while except for the mount. It was fine, but I bought a mac mini since then, which is even smaller, looks even better, quieter and performs better for my tasks (damn windows machines cannot build applications for ios, only macs :( )
I built a new machine (first time in 20 years!) with a Ryzen 5 7600X and an Asrock B650M Pro RS motherboard. It also has (somewhat anemic) iGPU and I have been quite impressed that OBS recording (at 1080p resolution) has worked out well. The beauty of the desktop custom-built universe is that it is still possible to mix and match the parts you need for your particular situation, and still have room to expand and grow. I am still researching where to go next regarding discrete graphics hardware, but the iGPU is meeting my basic needs, including AMD’s video codecs used quite well in OBS!
Thanks, a friend of mine is looking to build a small pc with decent graphics - he'll be doing basic video and photo editing, some software development for fun, so a tiny machine like this is perfect for his needs because it can sit hidden on the back corner of his desk and just do work.
Original version of this case you could buy a VESA mount and attach it to the back of your monitor, Ideal for getting it off the desk entirely - Real shame they've removed that ability
This is my favourite case and nearly the exact rebuild I have planned this year! Glad it's getting the attention it deserves. The old revisions actually did have a bulge in the mesh but the central bracket accommodated thicker rear drives (even optical drives) which was adjusted to improve CPU clearance.
Love the Chopin. I've done multiple builds in them. One with a 3400G a few years back and recently just built a pc for my mom for the holidays with the Chopin Max and a 5600G. It's been perfect.
I loved the whole thing! Funny enough I just gifted my brother a PC from spare parts I had that I just couldn't let go of! He got an i7 2700k ,32gbs RAM, Asus Strix 980ti, along with a 1TB ssd! Nothing crazy, but I finally managed to bring him back to PC gaming!
🙂 yes thats great, im rebuilding my Core 2 Quad and i7-870, the core 2 quad doesnt launch Cyberpunk but I was surprised that the 870 can run it just fine at low settings, the motherboard doesn't like my RX cards so if u try this u have to stick with Invidia, go green or stay home 😄
@@TheLionAndTheLamb777 It's a solid PC overall! I tested Pal World and Helldivers on it and it ran 60fps with some tweaks but definitely not on the "lowest"! I think a decent cooler and MORE WAM (RAM) on an older system makes a huge difference!
Thank you for the build and introduction to the inWin case. I need to build a small system for my wife. This is perfect. I have been looking at the mini PCs, but this offers an actual upgrade path while still being small.
Can be pretty cramped to work in, hemostats for plugging in the front panel connectors is vital if ya got sausage fingers, and handy for lots of things down in that tiny little space.
I have finally found my inspiration for a small form factor pc for my wife’s needs. She might not be happy about the price tag. So, what she doesn’t know won’t hurt her. 😂 Excellent build, my friend!🤙 And it’s great how you take care of your sister. Major kudos.
@@paulshardware You gotta tell me your procedure for the BIOS bro. I’ve done the flashback per procedure on the ASRock website several times, in several different ways. It just won’t flash. 🤦♂️ Edit: I went with 8700G, because I got $50 discount from Newegg. Same motherboard, cooler as you. And no real help from ASRock customer support. 😡
I am getting ready to build my Sister a small form factor PC as well! General use and maybe some retro gaming. Considered using a integrated graphics solution. Perfect timing with this video!!!
you're a kind brother, I love to see a fit for purpose build that achieves solid performance for its application without overspending on flair and powerful hardware that won't see daily use. your sister seems like chill person too :)
Yeah, TBH my MB backplate and dock have USB-C now as well as the two on the back of the MB so I have rarely used the one on front, but it's great to have it.
Did a similar build back in January for my mother-in-law, jumping from a i7-2700 to a i5-12400K. Mainly as I has an AsRock Z690M-ITX/ax motherboard ready for a different build (a silent build in a Streacom DB4 which has some very unusual limitations with VRM heatsinks), and her previous computer started having power problems, in that it just wouldn't turn on. The main difference between the Max and Pro versions of the Chopin is that the motherboard tray was moved, sacrificing space for larger 2.5" drives (i.e. 2.5" HDDs over 9.5mm thick) for greater CPU cooler clearance. It's designed to take the stock Intel and AMD coolers, which the Pro can't do. That and the USB 3 Gen 2 socket on the side panel, which was added for the Max. It's a great little case for desktop use, though the cables provided are a bit too long, especially the USB 3.0 header cable
I built almost the exact same build. Used the asrock b650 board and the id cooling is55. I play COD with no problem. Used the china A09 3.8 L case. Went with the seasonic 300 watt power supply. I’ve seen up to 207 watts of draw while gaming on my kilowatt.
Been looking a small case to build a modded Minecraft PC for my kids. The mini-PCs can run the heavy packs no problem but they are noisy beyond belief. This looks like the perfect option for only a little bit more. And it’s repairable/upgradable.
I had the original Chopin. I had to take out the PSU because of noise, so I replaced it with a PicoPSU. The fan on the PSU wasn't actually that loud, but the big problem was there were tight curves around that outside shroud where the air got turbulent => noisy. So even if I'd doctored up that PSU fan it wouldn't have made much different. For this one to be so silent, it seems like they did something to the PSU cooling situation since the original or since the prior V2 (the "Pro").
Most system builds I have done in the past 15 years or so rarely included a graphics card. Mainly because of the CPU graphics capabilities on the Intel CPU's. They are way better than the integrated graphics of the 1990's or ever since the "Sandy Bridge" era graphics and forward. Those who want a graphics card I just tell them to get what they want and I'll install it and the drivers for them. Unless they are gaming or doing intensive video work, the on CPU graphics are just fine for most.
It *is* fun to see a build like this. I’ve recently been pushing really slim client pcs (like the ones from the servethehome tinyminimicro project) for general use boxes for relatives that don’t want a laptop but don’t game. This is almost as small, but fixes one of the pet peeves I have with the thin clients - no external power brick!
"Do you ever build a PC that doesn't need a graphics card?" Yeah, got a jack-of-all-trades backup/media server that I built because my boss gave me an old AsRock Rack ITX server board. It's tucked away at the bottom of my shelf, and since everything is done remotely it doesn't need a graphics card. On a completely unrelated note I'd give you double the upvotes for the dog if I could. It looked lovely.
I have one with a A520i AC and 5600g, and it's been a very reliable mini PC for non-gaming use and was super cheap. Media consumption, browsing, coding and CAD via Fusion 360.
Just got done building one and there are two big downsides. First is the Asrock board does not let you dedicate RAM to the GPU. This hinders performance a lot. I have a 7940HS mini-pc that out performs this setup when it should not be. Second issue is AC whine. Didn’t except it from a power brick but it’s atrocious and enough to make me regret building it. I was expecting a small quiet system which it is not.
While not applicable in this build due to the case size, other folk may wish to check in their own market the price difference between buying an 8700G against getting a 7600 CPU and RX 6600 GFX card. As you may find it's the same price, for much better performance when calling upon graphics card use.
@paulshardware I believe that BIOS Flashback is a standard/included feature with AM5 platforms. If a mainboard doesnt support it then they went to some effort to disable it for whatever bizarre reason 🙂
I built already 3 AMD AGPU systems in this case. First one was in the first generation which had a problem to fit the AMD cooler. But taking off the shroud of the cooler fixed that. The max versions I fitted with a Noctua cooler which has foam parts building a chimney . Those systems are perfect if used for simple tasks like email and internet browsing. Still have one empty case left... maybe I build another one...I love that case... 😊
I use the NA-FD1 too! You can get free bolt extensions to fit a 25mm fan if you ask Noctua nicely with an invoice for the FD1. I eventually went with a 140mm iPPC 2000 resting atop the mesh that cools the RAM and other components by 15C as well. You have to deal with the wire pushing the side up a bit but I already had that for ARGB.
I made a daily driver build for my parents in the Chopin a few years ago and I gotta say it was very easy to build, looks great and was decent value with the included PSU. FYI, if someone wants to save a buck, the Wraith Stealth w/o the plastic shroud fits in the case with 1mm or less to spare :)
Oh man! The Newegg special NZXT Phantom case! That was the case I chose for my first ever build. I think I remember Paul doing the video for it on Newegg as well.
Just finished building my own pc with 7600 and no gpu. Coming from a headless laptop with a pentium 2020m, it is a hell of an upgrade. I am one of those normal people not concerned about gaming so I don't need a gpu. I love amd for putting an igpu in every 7000series ryzen.
What a coincidence, I just rebuilt a 4350G build in the Chopin non-Max last weekend. On another note, someone modded a low profile dGPU into this case with case modding, and an external PSU.
A couple years ago I built a similar system around the 3400G as a central component of the entertainment center in the living room. Still works. Very quiet. Very low power. Does everything I wanted it to do. Originally it was driving a standard HD display but since then I've switched that out for a 4k monitor without incident. Totally happy with the build. The computer geek in me wants to upgrade it to something similar to this video but I really can't justify it. The old system is still working 100%.
squeeze a foam edge between the fan and the grill.. it will only suck cold air instead or recirculating some of the hot air. or noctua make a shim i believe
I really like this case. I built my parents 2 pcs years ago in the old version of this case. I made low end systems since all they do is watch TH-cam, but that was about 6 years ago... maybe it's time for an upgrade.
I build some machines with no need for a GPU but I like to have the ability to add one.That case does look interesting though for a basic office machine or something to handle streaming. Definitely would opt for a board with more display outputs, as sometimes you just want DisplayPort. I built a mini-ITX machine that my friends were able to use at a con table to show more info about the group. It used a 5600G and was more than up to the task. We were able to use to watch movies in the hotel after con hours. All I really did was replace the wifi Antennas with ones from Amazon that had a magnetic base you could basically stick anywhere for better reception. Machine was small enough to fit into a duffel back with a portable monitor. I built an otherwise identical machine for myself and put 64GB of RAM an RX6700XT in that for a portable rig that could game and run VMs off the two 1TB SSDs I put in to go with the NMVE boot drive. That has wound up being my defacto primary machine.
I have an old alienware alpha as a living room machine atm but ive wanted to do something in this case whenever the next round of AMD apus came out and this definitely looks like it would be a fun project!
Your sister definitely is very content with the things she owns. I love that she didn't upgrade until she really needed to. I would have already changed probably 2 times in that time period but she made me learn I can wait lol ❤
Amazingly small build, im about to go back and watch the dual syst video, fiancé is really wanting more cameras around the place, time to build an NVR, was already planning a NAS. So this will be fun
Currently building an ITX system for the first time in the CM NR200P. Loving the challenge to squeeze everything in! I'll be squeezing a 7800XT in though too make it a tiny but powerful system. Great videos recently!
I would love to see you take one of the small streaco mitx cases and make a light gaming/media center to have with the TV. I live in an apartment so we try to minimize space usage. I still have my real gaming pc - it's built into a IKEA metod closet
That's a really cute InWin case. Overall a lovely build and really nice to see such a prosaic build. It's a pretty different experience when you aren't dealing with a GPU isn't it? An absolute dearth of case fans makes for such a tidy experience too!
Thanks for building this pc, been thinking of building another ITX system for work. i forget that integrated gpu chips are also available, here i am going to consider my upcoming build again
This looks like an amazing at home media (youtube/twitch consumption for example) pc that doesn't require too much for the bare minimum day-to-day use most people have.
That case is around 4,4L in volume. I have a 5L case with a nice wooden front that can actually fit a shot 220mm 2 slot GPU, like a 4060Ti. So that InWIN case is actually far bigger then it has to be. :D
Nice little build. I have a DeskMini X300 that I am using an ID Cooling IS-40 X and I was actually surprised on how well it works. I have one of the new 5500GT and it cools it really well. I only use this for a HTPC/Plex server but it works really well.
Paul's Hardware has More Subscribers Than Static-X, by a far margin, who has Toured the Earth, Made Millions, & has been around for over 15 Years. Not something I would have Imagined.
Just 'finished' a very similar build with same case/PSU, CPU, and RAM (but 64GB). Used Noctua NH-L9a but looking to try another cooler. Used liquid metal (carefully & w/ Thermalright ASF). Storage: Firecuda 540, Samsung 970 EVO, & Samsung 870 EVO (just to try it). Oh, and mbd is Asus ROG Strix B650E-I (I updated the bios but OEM bios recognized the 8700G). Your Time Spy values were good for out of the box. Using Asus AI OC with no curve optimization, etc got 3678/3273/12365 but temps rather toasty, thus looking for a different cooler to try. My second Chopin Pro build, good case if a discrete GPU isn't needed.
The 8700G is not good for gaming with how overly expensive it is for what it is, but this is probably one of the only videos I've seen so far where that APU is actually decent and useful for the use case of what his sister needs it for. Don't get me wrong, it's actually pretty Impressive for what it can do for gaming, but for the same price you can get a lower end CPU and GPU that will blow it out of the water. Even if you like smaller systems, you can still build a small system with a discrete GPU. I think the 8700G will definitely heavily fall in price eventually, and maybe then it will actually have a more compelling price to performance for gaming usage.
My media pc is in the same case still running an a10-5700. Works alright. A bit loud with the cooler I had to use, but the guts cost less used on ebay than the case. With ubuntu I don't see it needing an upgrade for a long while still.
Love the build. For this use case and no disrespect here, upgradability isn’t really a concern, it’s not been upgraded since sandy bridge so it’s not a driver. I would be more inclined to go the minisforum route, it’s cheaper for the same performance and is just ready to go. But then, we wouldn’t get to see you build something interesting.
I highly recommend the Lian Li A4-H2O. In only 11 litres, you can fit in a full size GPU (up to 4090 Founders Edition sized) and a 240mm AIO liquid cooler for the CPU.
Hi Paul, Really like your content. I noticed that you were using an ASUS Strix carrier for the M.2 drive. I have tried several of these types of devices to allow me to make M.2 drives more portable. It is like having a super-sized USB drive paired with a type C plug really is a great way of having transportable data. The issue is that invariably the M.2 drive will fail. Now for the record I have used some inexpensive ones and I suspect that the cooling is the real issue. The least expensive one I have has no cooling just an M.2 slot on a card with a USB plug. I have had to improvise with a small piece of sheet metal and I stick it to the M.2 drive using a thermal pad. I then hang in front of one of the fans that is pushing air out of my case. The worst offenders seem to be the very cheap cases that enclose a M.2 drive but don't have a thermal solution. I have killed 3 Samsung 970 EVO drives in these cases. I was wondering if you could look into this and possibly do a deeper dive into portable M.2 adaptors. For reference, the most expensive one I got was about $20.00 whereas I noticed that the ASUS Strix one you used was about $50. Is this a case of you getting what you pay for? Could you do a deeper dive into these devices and give a guide of what to look for when purchasing? Thanks for all you do!!! It is greatly appreciated!!!
This was a great change of pace from the ubiquitous gaming builds and a great example for the normals that do also use computers.
A person using the term “normals” that way is a great ways to demonstrate one is not.
@@robertt9342I mean it's true tho. This guy has a regular viewerbase, I seriously doubt most people watching this intend to build anything similar to this.
We aren't "Normals" 98% of people watching this are PC hardware porn addicts.
I built my good friend a music production PC a couple weeks ago with a 5700G. I quite like building without a graphics card honestly
Don't we all. I built one of these two years ago and it was very powerful.
Watching this video on my Chopin with a 3400G in it, had it 4+ years and great to see it getting some love.
Bought the ASRock DeskMini vesa mount to attach it to the back of a monitor and replaced the PSU fan with a Noctua to eliminate some slightly annoying noise.
Fitted a Noctua Low profile Cooler for the CPU and it really is a great general work machine that's served me fantastically well
I also have an identical rig since 2020. It serves as my always on plex server. love it. I also changed the PSU fan. 😁
I had the same config for a while except for the mount. It was fine, but I bought a mac mini since then, which is even smaller, looks even better, quieter and performs better for my tasks (damn windows machines cannot build applications for ios, only macs :( )
My first PC I ever built in 2014 was with the 7850k APU and no graphics card. It was the gateway to a whole new world.
I built a new machine (first time in 20 years!) with a Ryzen 5 7600X and an Asrock B650M Pro RS motherboard. It also has (somewhat anemic) iGPU and I have been quite impressed that OBS recording (at 1080p resolution) has worked out well. The beauty of the desktop custom-built universe is that it is still possible to mix and match the parts you need for your particular situation, and still have room to expand and grow. I am still researching where to go next regarding discrete graphics hardware, but the iGPU is meeting my basic needs, including AMD’s video codecs used quite well in OBS!
@@rstewart2702how ur liking the 7600x? I'm upgrading from my amd fx 6350 and GTX 960 to a 7600x aswell with a 7900XT
Incredible. I just put a system in that case this afternoon and here it is in a video. That’s fun. It’s a fave
Thanks, a friend of mine is looking to build a small pc with decent graphics - he'll be doing basic video and photo editing, some software development for fun, so a tiny machine like this is perfect for his needs because it can sit hidden on the back corner of his desk and just do work.
Original version of this case you could buy a VESA mount and attach it to the back of your monitor, Ideal for getting it off the desk entirely - Real shame they've removed that ability
I approve of how Paul supports his sister with PCs. I do the same for my fam!
Gretchen and Paul have the same joyful smirk and earnest eyes, funny how nature do that... XD
Cheers to both~!
RDNA microarchitecture.
This is my favourite case and nearly the exact rebuild I have planned this year! Glad it's getting the attention it deserves.
The old revisions actually did have a bulge in the mesh but the central bracket accommodated thicker rear drives (even optical drives) which was adjusted to improve CPU clearance.
Love the Chopin. I've done multiple builds in them. One with a 3400G a few years back and recently just built a pc for my mom for the holidays with the Chopin Max and a 5600G. It's been perfect.
You are a very generous and kind brother
Thank you very much, I try to give advice to everyone 🙂👍
@@Riga_Style they weren't talking to you............
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@ghomerhust
I loved the whole thing! Funny enough I just gifted my brother a PC from spare parts I had that I just couldn't let go of! He got an i7 2700k ,32gbs RAM, Asus Strix 980ti, along with a 1TB ssd! Nothing crazy, but I finally managed to bring him back to PC gaming!
My friend was gave a similar computer recently. i7 2600K, 16GB DDR3-1600, EVGA GTX 980, and a 240GB SSD
🙂 yes thats great, im rebuilding my Core 2 Quad and i7-870, the core 2 quad doesnt launch Cyberpunk but I was surprised that the 870 can run it just fine at low settings, the motherboard doesn't like my RX cards so if u try this u have to stick with Invidia, go green or stay home 😄
@@TheLionAndTheLamb777 It's a solid PC overall! I tested Pal World and Helldivers on it and it ran 60fps with some tweaks but definitely not on the "lowest"! I think a decent cooler and MORE WAM (RAM) on an older system makes a huge difference!
I think that is the best cable management in a small form that I have seen. I really like that case.
Man, for whatever reason I really love those small pc builds. Great video!
Thank you for the build and introduction to the inWin case. I need to build a small system for my wife. This is perfect. I have been looking at the mini PCs, but this offers an actual upgrade path while still being small.
Can be pretty cramped to work in, hemostats for plugging in the front panel connectors is vital if ya got sausage fingers, and handy for lots of things down in that tiny little space.
I have finally found my inspiration for a small form factor pc for my wife’s needs. She might not be happy about the price tag. So, what she doesn’t know won’t hurt her. 😂 Excellent build, my friend!🤙 And it’s great how you take care of your sister. Major kudos.
Thank you! An easy way to shave off $100 is to go for the 8600G if you're ok with a 6-core
@@paulshardware Much obliged! 🤙
@@paulshardware You gotta tell me your procedure for the BIOS bro. I’ve done the flashback per procedure on the ASRock website several times, in several different ways. It just won’t flash. 🤦♂️ Edit: I went with 8700G, because I got $50 discount from Newegg. Same motherboard, cooler as you. And no real help from ASRock customer support. 😡
Awesome build Thanks Paul and Joe!
Love it. I have this build but with a 5700G meant for mostly non gameplay. I love the fact the latest Ryzen 8700G can actually run AAA games at all.
I am getting ready to build my Sister a small form factor PC as well! General use and maybe some retro gaming. Considered using a integrated graphics solution. Perfect timing with this video!!!
This mini build is cool! I hope your sister enjoys her new PC!
An excellent build, possibly got extra credit because Chopin is my favorite "classical" (technically "romantic" I think) composer.
Congratulations Gretchen🎉🎉
I'm running a 7940HS system, and the iGPU is amazing for integrated graphics. It works great for 1080p gaming!
you're a kind brother, I love to see a fit for purpose build that achieves solid performance for its application without overspending on flair and powerful hardware that won't see daily use. your sister seems like chill person too :)
I've had a 4750G and now a 8700G in that case but is the one before the type C...both are just crazy good for the size and upgradeability.
Yeah, TBH my MB backplate and dock have USB-C now as well as the two on the back of the MB so I have rarely used the one on front, but it's great to have it.
A neat little build! Nice to see it is very quiet. Sound profile is the main reason I tend to go with standard sized components.
Did a similar build back in January for my mother-in-law, jumping from a i7-2700 to a i5-12400K. Mainly as I has an AsRock Z690M-ITX/ax motherboard ready for a different build (a silent build in a Streacom DB4 which has some very unusual limitations with VRM heatsinks), and her previous computer started having power problems, in that it just wouldn't turn on.
The main difference between the Max and Pro versions of the Chopin is that the motherboard tray was moved, sacrificing space for larger 2.5" drives (i.e. 2.5" HDDs over 9.5mm thick) for greater CPU cooler clearance. It's designed to take the stock Intel and AMD coolers, which the Pro can't do.
That and the USB 3 Gen 2 socket on the side panel, which was added for the Max.
It's a great little case for desktop use, though the cables provided are a bit too long, especially the USB 3.0 header cable
Great video! Awesome to see a mini build!
Awesome build and video, keep up the great work!
And if she ever needs some more high speed storage, she can even put a NVMe SSD on a M.2 to PCIe card, remove the rear bracket and off she goes...
'Fairly dense but still spreadable" 🥵
It looks like you have a very, very high temperature, you are just red, check your coolers 😅😅😅👍👍👍
That's going to be an awful mount, come on Paul . . . You're better than this
Watched Paul doing his how-to pc builds back in the Newegg days. He and Linus were the ones who inspired me to build pcs.
I built almost the exact same build. Used the asrock b650 board and the id cooling is55. I play COD with no problem. Used the china A09 3.8 L case. Went with the seasonic 300 watt power supply. I’ve seen up to 207 watts of draw while gaming on my kilowatt.
Been looking a small case to build a modded Minecraft PC for my kids. The mini-PCs can run the heavy packs no problem but they are noisy beyond belief. This looks like the perfect option for only a little bit more. And it’s repairable/upgradable.
For a second I read it as “Maximum PC” :(
RIP. The magazine and No BS podcast used to be incredible
My favorite magazine to read while poopin before iPhones!😢
@@TheRossMadnesswasn't also "Minimum BS" written just bellows "Maximum PC"?
Same. Loved that mag back in the day.
Nice job Paul, now she's all set for another decade of computing.
I wish I had a friend like Paul. Genuinely a nice person
I had a 780 TI and a i7 3770 back in 2014. For me, it was the best PC I could ever dream of. It played everything
I had the original Chopin. I had to take out the PSU because of noise, so I replaced it with a PicoPSU. The fan on the PSU wasn't actually that loud, but the big problem was there were tight curves around that outside shroud where the air got turbulent => noisy. So even if I'd doctored up that PSU fan it wouldn't have made much different.
For this one to be so silent, it seems like they did something to the PSU cooling situation since the original or since the prior V2 (the "Pro").
Most system builds I have done in the past 15 years or so rarely included a graphics card. Mainly because of the CPU graphics capabilities on the Intel CPU's. They are way better than the integrated graphics of the 1990's or ever since the "Sandy Bridge" era graphics and forward. Those who want a graphics card I just tell them to get what they want and I'll install it and the drivers for them. Unless they are gaming or doing intensive video work, the on CPU graphics are just fine for most.
It *is* fun to see a build like this. I’ve recently been pushing really slim client pcs (like the ones from the servethehome tinyminimicro project) for general use boxes for relatives that don’t want a laptop but don’t game. This is almost as small, but fixes one of the pet peeves I have with the thin clients - no external power brick!
The InWin Chopin case is very good. I use them to help my mother and elders assemble computers.
Front panel conectors in a block!!! 😮
"Do you ever build a PC that doesn't need a graphics card?" Yeah, got a jack-of-all-trades backup/media server that I built because my boss gave me an old AsRock Rack ITX server board. It's tucked away at the bottom of my shelf, and since everything is done remotely it doesn't need a graphics card.
On a completely unrelated note I'd give you double the upvotes for the dog if I could. It looked lovely.
I have one with a A520i AC and 5600g, and it's been a very reliable mini PC for non-gaming use and was super cheap. Media consumption, browsing, coding and CAD via Fusion 360.
Great mini build and nice Vizsla too. Well done Paul.
Just got done building one and there are two big downsides. First is the Asrock board does not let you dedicate RAM to the GPU. This hinders performance a lot. I have a 7940HS mini-pc that out performs this setup when it should not be. Second issue is AC whine. Didn’t except it from a power brick but it’s atrocious and enough to make me regret building it. I was expecting a small quiet system which it is not.
While not applicable in this build due to the case size, other folk may wish to check in their own market the price difference between buying an 8700G against getting a 7600 CPU and RX 6600 GFX card. As you may find it's the same price, for much better performance when calling upon graphics card use.
Sweet, I've missed these NeweggTV videos!
I built a 5600G in the Chopin Pro a couple years back. Great build Paul.
@paulshardware I believe that BIOS Flashback is a standard/included feature with AM5 platforms. If a mainboard doesnt support it then they went to some effort to disable it for whatever bizarre reason 🙂
Built a system for a friend about a year ago in the older 150 watt version of this case. Fantastic small case to build in.
That's a cool build. Making a computer invisible (or as near as possible) has tons of aesthetic application.
18:57 = Me, if I ever see Paul at Micro Center
I built already 3 AMD AGPU systems in this case. First one was in the first generation which had a problem to fit the AMD cooler. But taking off the shroud of the cooler fixed that. The max versions I fitted with a Noctua cooler which has foam parts building a chimney . Those systems are perfect if used for simple tasks like email and internet browsing. Still have one empty case left... maybe I build another one...I love that case... 😊
I use the NA-FD1 too! You can get free bolt extensions to fit a 25mm fan if you ask Noctua nicely with an invoice for the FD1. I eventually went with a 140mm iPPC 2000 resting atop the mesh that cools the RAM and other components by 15C as well. You have to deal with the wire pushing the side up a bit but I already had that for ARGB.
I made a daily driver build for my parents in the Chopin a few years ago and I gotta say it was very easy to build, looks great and was decent value with the included PSU. FYI, if someone wants to save a buck, the Wraith Stealth w/o the plastic shroud fits in the case with 1mm or less to spare :)
Oh man! The Newegg special NZXT Phantom case! That was the case I chose for my first ever build. I think I remember Paul doing the video for it on Newegg as well.
Just finished building my own pc with 7600 and no gpu. Coming from a headless laptop with a pentium 2020m, it is a hell of an upgrade. I am one of those normal people not concerned about gaming so I don't need a gpu. I love amd for putting an igpu in every 7000series ryzen.
The case is lovely and one of my favorite Mini ITX cases. I wish they'd make a version with enough room for a 1 or 2 slot low profile GPU.
What a coincidence, I just rebuilt a 4350G build in the Chopin non-Max last weekend.
On another note, someone modded a low profile dGPU into this case with case modding, and an external PSU.
A couple years ago I built a similar system around the 3400G as a central component of the entertainment center in the living room. Still works. Very quiet. Very low power. Does everything I wanted it to do. Originally it was driving a standard HD display but since then I've switched that out for a 4k monitor without incident. Totally happy with the build. The computer geek in me wants to upgrade it to something similar to this video but I really can't justify it. The old system is still working 100%.
Get a used 5700g or even a new 5700GT (turbo vega 8) it performs about same as the 8500G
squeeze a foam edge between the fan and the grill.. it will only suck cold air instead or recirculating some of the hot air. or noctua make a shim i believe
I really like this case. I built my parents 2 pcs years ago in the old version of this case. I made low end systems since all they do is watch TH-cam, but that was about 6 years ago... maybe it's time for an upgrade.
Hopefully an AMD build in the AM4 socket? If so, just a simple and cheap used CPU like a 5600g, they go for around $100usd
Always good to help family!! Way to be a great Brother!!!
Still rocking the Chopin with the 5600g finally looks an apu worth upgrade, thanks Paul. Sweet build
I have the same old case, but mine is the black edition
Actually thought about building something like this for a media center
I am also human , fellow human !
That scene with your sister was very beautiful. Enjoyed seeing how happy it made her. 😢
I build some machines with no need for a GPU but I like to have the ability to add one.That case does look interesting though for a basic office machine or something to handle streaming.
Definitely would opt for a board with more display outputs, as sometimes you just want DisplayPort.
I built a mini-ITX machine that my friends were able to use at a con table to show more info about the group. It used a 5600G and was more than up to the task. We were able to use to watch movies in the hotel after con hours. All I really did was replace the wifi Antennas with ones from Amazon that had a magnetic base you could basically stick anywhere for better reception. Machine was small enough to fit into a duffel back with a portable monitor.
I built an otherwise identical machine for myself and put 64GB of RAM an RX6700XT in that for a portable rig that could game and run VMs off the two 1TB SSDs I put in to go with the NMVE boot drive. That has wound up being my defacto primary machine.
I have an old alienware alpha as a living room machine atm but ive wanted to do something in this case whenever the next round of AMD apus came out and this definitely looks like it would be a fun project!
Your sister definitely is very content with the things she owns. I love that she didn't upgrade until she really needed to. I would have already changed probably 2 times in that time period but she made me learn I can wait lol ❤
So sweet, it's such a massive upgrade, even without a graphics card. Awesome mini little machine.
I have a 5700G in this case with Brazzite OS (Steam OS essentially) connected to my TV as a console. Their great little machines!
Amazingly small build, im about to go back and watch the dual syst video, fiancé is really wanting more cameras around the place, time to build an NVR, was already planning a NAS. So this will be fun
Im glad brands like ID cooling are around with low prices and good performance for what it is
Currently building an ITX system for the first time in the CM NR200P. Loving the challenge to squeeze everything in! I'll be squeezing a 7800XT in though too make it a tiny but powerful system. Great videos recently!
I would love to see you take one of the small streaco mitx cases and make a light gaming/media center to have with the TV.
I live in an apartment so we try to minimize space usage.
I still have my real gaming pc - it's built into a IKEA metod closet
That's a really cute InWin case. Overall a lovely build and really nice to see such a prosaic build. It's a pretty different experience when you aren't dealing with a GPU isn't it? An absolute dearth of case fans makes for such a tidy experience too!
The A620 has a 75C termal limit set in the BIOS. That’s why HWinfo marked it red.
I am planning on using one of these for a sff homelab for VMs
FANTASTIC build . Pretty darn powerful system in a small package . By todays standards , this is a pretty reasonably priced build .
Thanks for building this pc, been thinking of building another ITX system for work. i forget that integrated gpu chips are also available, here i am going to consider my upcoming build again
This looks like an amazing at home media (youtube/twitch consumption for example) pc that doesn't require too much for the bare minimum day-to-day use most people have.
That case is around 4,4L in volume.
I have a 5L case with a nice wooden front that can actually fit a shot 220mm 2 slot GPU, like a 4060Ti.
So that InWIN case is actually far bigger then it has to be. :D
Yea Sis! Go forth and Compute.
your sister has a beautiful puppy dog. What a sweetie.
23:17 very different build but so much more representative of the actual world going on out there
I have always loved this case. Kyle did a build in one of these a while back.
Nice little build. I have a DeskMini X300 that I am using an ID Cooling IS-40 X and I was actually surprised on how well it works. I have one of the new 5500GT and it cools it really well. I only use this for a HTPC/Plex server but it works really well.
Neat little system. I like how quiet it seems to be.
I love small form factors.
More please!
What an upgrade. Good to see it was the cables holding the screens back, I wonder how many people would immediately blame the graphics processors?
When I need a small PC that doesn't need a graphics card, I use the Asrock DeskMini systems. They are about the size of a smaller ATX power supply.
Paul's Hardware has More Subscribers Than Static-X, by a far margin, who has Toured the Earth, Made Millions, & has been around for over 15 Years. Not something I would have Imagined.
Just 'finished' a very similar build with same case/PSU, CPU, and RAM (but 64GB). Used Noctua NH-L9a but looking to try another cooler. Used liquid metal (carefully & w/ Thermalright ASF). Storage: Firecuda 540, Samsung 970 EVO, & Samsung 870 EVO (just to try it). Oh, and mbd is Asus ROG Strix B650E-I (I updated the bios but OEM bios recognized the 8700G). Your Time Spy values were good for out of the box. Using Asus AI OC with no curve optimization, etc got 3678/3273/12365 but temps rather toasty, thus looking for a different cooler to try. My second Chopin Pro build, good case if a discrete GPU isn't needed.
The 8700G is not good for gaming with how overly expensive it is for what it is, but this is probably one of the only videos I've seen so far where that APU is actually decent and useful for the use case of what his sister needs it for.
Don't get me wrong, it's actually pretty Impressive for what it can do for gaming, but for the same price you can get a lower end CPU and GPU that will blow it out of the water. Even if you like smaller systems, you can still build a small system with a discrete GPU. I think the 8700G will definitely heavily fall in price eventually, and maybe then it will actually have a more compelling price to performance for gaming usage.
My media pc is in the same case still running an a10-5700.
Works alright. A bit loud with the cooler I had to use, but the guts cost less used on ebay than the case. With ubuntu I don't see it needing an upgrade for a long while still.
Love the build. For this use case and no disrespect here, upgradability isn’t really a concern, it’s not been upgraded since sandy bridge so it’s not a driver. I would be more inclined to go the minisforum route, it’s cheaper for the same performance and is just ready to go. But then, we wouldn’t get to see you build something interesting.
I highly recommend the Lian Li A4-H2O. In only 11 litres, you can fit in a full size GPU (up to 4090 Founders Edition sized) and a 240mm AIO liquid cooler for the CPU.
Hi Paul,
Really like your content. I noticed that you were using an ASUS Strix carrier for the M.2 drive. I have tried several of these types of devices to allow me to make M.2 drives more portable. It is like having a super-sized USB drive paired with a type C plug really is a great way of having transportable data. The issue is that invariably the M.2 drive will fail. Now for the record I have used some inexpensive ones and I suspect that the cooling is the real issue. The least expensive one I have has no cooling just an M.2 slot on a card with a USB plug. I have had to improvise with a small piece of sheet metal and I stick it to the M.2 drive using a thermal pad. I then hang in front of one of the fans that is pushing air out of my case. The worst offenders seem to be the very cheap cases that enclose a M.2 drive but don't have a thermal solution. I have killed 3 Samsung 970 EVO drives in these cases. I was wondering if you could look into this and possibly do a deeper dive into portable M.2 adaptors. For reference, the most expensive one I got was about $20.00 whereas I noticed that the ASUS Strix one you used was about $50. Is this a case of you getting what you pay for? Could you do a deeper dive into these devices and give a guide of what to look for when purchasing?
Thanks for all you do!!! It is greatly appreciated!!!