Miscellaneous Myths: Atalanta
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- Atalanta, everybody! Kicked ass, took names, adopted on two separate occasions, had a fondness for shiny stuff. This is her story!
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I find it hilarious that the ship of 'dorky smart nice boy' and 'hot strong badass girl' has literally been with us as a ship since the concept of shipping has existed to the point that the fucking Goddess of shipping was the first to like it. That's how you know a ship dynamic has staying power.
Any recommendations for that shipping trope?
@@LarsTonguesInAspix Ron and Kim possible
@@eryvac0074 unsatisfactory
@@LarsTonguesInAspix undyne and alphys are a good example of this! fish + lizard lesbians, love to see it
It's Greece. Odds are, this was simply them drooling over something that was totally exotic to their Afghan level patriarchal culture- a woman who could do guy stuff.
Really love the group of hunter dads that were like "man this is a cool baby we should take her" and we know they showed up to every wrestling match with homemade posters
I especially love just how despondented the moma bear looks
@@mohammedyousef4005 She really wanted him to give the nice boy two caves over a chance...
Awww that was actually like, a really sweet ending. I think it’s fitting that Atalanta ends up with a guy who knowingly acknowledges how capable she is, she realizes this, and elects to be with him. Also, their “bang in Zeus’s temple” ending is peak newly wed nonsense and I’m here for it.
Jane Doe I think he died it’s hippopotamus guy who married her j think
Xuan Qi Ng Hippomenes also acknowledged her capacities I think? He knew he couldn’t beat her without those apples in any case
In some stories hippo didn't thank aphro for her help and she turned them both into lions, there was something in the myths about how lions couldn't mate or love each other
And then they get turned into lions
@@emperorjimmu9941 She does in some versions, but not in others. Specifically, the versions she shows up in are the ones that feature Atalanta as a Priestess of Artemis.
In some versions Atalanta was in fact in love with him when they met on a hill and he complimented her skill in archery. What was interesting about it was he never added “for a woman” to his compliments and that’s what has her fall in love with him. Dude was a massive dork too. Think ray of sunshine bean who is unbelievably shy. He’s that.
Atalanta: he is very smol bean, must protecc
I like that version. That is a nice version.
He’s actually Achilles the entire time.
Lemuel Delvalle Achilles was gay...
Mobius eh he was most likely bi given the fact he fell for Penthesilia after he killed her
I like to think Atalanta didn't really care about the golden apples and just went after them cause she really didn't want to kill the cute dork Hippomenes so was looking for any believable excuse not to win.
chakatBombshell Oh, that makes sense!
I prefer that idea. Not picking up the apples out of stupidity, but more to escape her own terms of the race because she actually liked him.
Yeah, I like that theory too. Atalanta lost the race without sacrificing her reputation because she has the excuse that her husband was smart enough to trick her.
She definitely made her point that she could take him :)
In the version I was told, the apples represent healthy love. So she had to lose the race to gain the apples.
She forgot the 3rd way a womens life could go.
3: Apollo falls in love with you and you turn into an inanimate object. (Probably a flower)
Or gods forbid you meet Artemis in the woods while she is bathing. Looking at you henolepus
@@christianfreeman8690 That's more like what might happen to men.
@@Punaparta tbh the apollo ending is also possible for men (looking at hyacinthus)
tbh the moral of all of greek mythology is that attracting the attention of any of the gods is almost universally a very bad thing.
There's a 4th option as well:
Be unnaturally beautiful and have Aphrodite kill you out of spite and jealousy.
I love how surly mamma bear looks when Atalanta is introducing her husband to her parents.
Like "This tiny man is your mate? How will he catch fish and get honey with those teeny paws?"
Lyss Wicks Doesn’t the male leave the female after they mate to take care of the cubs on her own?
@@Ashy-zz5ug yeah and sometimes they eat the cubs
@@sirandrewaguecheek6512 I know. My point was that male bears don't catch fish for their families.
@@Ashy-zz5ug dude just take the joke lmao
I was thinking the look was because she was a representation of artemis who would've rather her daughter stayed celibate like her
Atalanta: "If you win, you take my hand. If I win, I take your head."
Bear mom: "That's my girl!"
Proud momma bear.
A scenario I came up with after seeing that one gag Red made:
Atalanta: You lost, time to die!
Suitor: WAIT, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA _GIVE ME_ THE SWORD!
Atalanta: Yeah...in your chest.
Suitor: Can't you just give me the sword as a consolation prize instead!?
Atalanta: ...(sigh) If I give you the sword will you stop asking to marry me?
Suitor: Yeah!
Atalanta: Fine. Here. It's not like I need it to kill people, I was raised by bears.
Suitor: (takes the sword, squeals in delight and runs off)
@@CJCroen1393 I like it!
@@BlightVonDrake ^_^
@@CJCroen1393 2 minutes later the idiot trip and fall on to the sword
The end
Mama bear: "How the hell did you lose a race?, Who told you to chase shiny things?"
Atalanta: "YOU!, I learned it by watching you"
@OH GOD NO, IT'S EXISTENTIAL CRISIS AGAIN Why?,
Danglie alrighty!,
Mama Bear: I wanna see my son in law
Atalanta: *here is the super not buff dorky guy who beat me in a race*
Mama Bear: what a disappointment you are, dear daughter
@Danglie
You don',t do I;t?
Pixar's Brave anyone?
so in the testosterone-overloaded sausage fest that is ancient Greek mythology, there's actually a couple of a smart, dorky dude and a strong, badass girl?
that's new.
A literal sunshine bean and a badass who don't take no shit from nobody. 11/10 would ship.
@@mollsgreys5827 You and Aphrodite both.
@Hannah Fox which one of those punched a lion and dated two gods and lived to tell the tale cause i think she is the most badass
@Hannah Fox yeah when you can survive getting with multiple greek gods you are a badass no question
@WD Vinco but did she also bang apollo
Atalanta: almost catches up to Hippomenes.
Hippomenes: YEET!
It would have only been better if that was actually drawn into the scene XD
YEET ×3 😂😂
Omfg lol
If at first you don't succeed, cheat, cheat cheat again!
I got to be your thousandth upvote. Yay!
Did a PowerPoint presentation on Atalanta
One of the headers was “Atalanta’s Murder Race”
beautiful
lol
So how'd the PowerPoint go
@@jordank6961 went well lol
@@ocean9577 good to hear
When you start shipping Atalanta with the handsome prince and then 2 mins later he dies. :(
Not even Game of Thrones was that cruel to its characters.
NOOOOO. I did not need to know that ;-;
Karishma Changlani here I'll fix it. The three of them have a threesome in whatever afterlife they go to?
Karishma Changlani ikr!
typical YA novels.
"I was told there was MURDERING to be done, not arts and crafts!!!" I want that on a t-shirt.
Yes sir!!
I'd wear it
Aphrodite: I totally ship it!
Me: Same. That’s pretty cute.
Aphrodite: Goddess of Shipping
wait till you read a myth were Aphrodite either disapproves a ship or she wants a ship so bad that doesn't work at all and the mortals reject it
ho ho
Zeus: God of one night stands
Pan: God of the ship gettin’ frisky.
@@wooyeah1738 No. It's...
Pan: The Always Erotic Bisexual God, Literally. Always.
*"You could be the Jocasta to my Oedipus"*
Yeah, I'm not sure if that's something you wanna say while catcalling someone.
Probably the worst pick-up line in history.
I agree
@@givecamichips I don't know, I saw a D&D nerd open with "Hey, babe, wanna see my purple worm?"
The girl was REALLY not interested in painted figures.
Still smarter than 99% of the catcalls out there. Equally horrifying, but smarter.
"How 'bout you save us both some time and poke your eyes out with a pin?"
4:22 Can we just appreciate the mama bear in the background?
How will it hunt with its tiny paws??
@@dubiouslypresent I would be like. "I'm human I live in a house now."
@@tomsautocadstudio6446 "Unacceptable, you must relearn how to hunt and survive as a bear."
“If this is actually happening, then Rome will conquer Greece. Mark my words.”
Headcanon: the bear who adopted Atalanta is Callisto, the nymph follower of Artemis who was seduced by Zeus (while disguised by Artemis, which has created a lot of speculation on whether this meant Artemis and Callisto were lesbian lovers) and after getting pregnant, got turned into a bear (sources differ on whether it was Zeus, Hera or Artemis who did this, all having their own reasons).
My headcanon goes further: first, after discovering Callisto was pregnant, Artemis believed the nymph intentionally broke her vows and banished her from the group, before going off to Mount Olympus to cry to Daddy Zeus about how Callisto had betrayed her. This was how Zeus found out that the nymph in question was pregnant - with HIS child... and Hera was able to deduce from his expression what was what, and this lead to Artemis realizing the truth, that Callisto had been tricked and technically never betrayed her.
It then became a race between the three gods to find Callisto. Zeus and Artemis found her first. Zeus took his new son, Arcas, and hid him away from Hera, while Artemis, thinking quickly, turned Callisto into a bear. At first, she claimed that it was to punish the nymph - but she only said this to soothe Hera. Artemis' real reason was to give Callisto an excuse to re-join the huntresses: since she was no longer a virgin, it would be sacrilege of her to join their group. BUT, if she were a bear, a wild animal with no cause to follow any vows of chastity, then of course she could join them!
So Callisto happily rejoined the huntresses, happy to be back with her friends (and potential lesbian partner), although she was still sad about being parted from her baby... and that's where Atalanta comes in. Since the foundling is a girl, she's completely eligible to join Artemis and her huntresses. Thus Callisto has found comfort in taking care of a baby.
So yeah, Atalanta got to grow up with both a bear and Artemis as mother figures. Also, Artemis never had Atalanta take any "virginity vow", just in case... and that worked out when Atalanta's father claimed her and insisted she marry.
I also read this on wikipedia regarding Atalanta and Hippomenes getting turned into lions: "This view has been criticized, however. In her book The Amazons: Lives and Legends of Warrior Women across the Ancient World, Adrienne Mayor argues there is no evidence to support the notion that the Ancient Greeks believed male and female lions could not engage in sexual intercourse. Rather, Mayor contends the transformation of Atalanta and her lover into lions occurred at a moment of emotional and sexual bliss, which can be interpreted as divine sympathy for a couple who defied traditional Greek gender roles, and thus turning them into lions enabled the lovers to hunt and mate together for all eternity outside of Greek society, which would not have accepted their relationship."
So my headcanon also includes Atalanta and Hippomenes as pet lions to Artemis. The goddess can't accept men into her group, but she has no problem with male animals being around.
This means that Artemis has a pet bear and two pet lions. :D
An excellent theory! Punctured just slightly by the fact that Artemis was the Virgin Goddess of Hunting. It's not that men weren't allowed, just that men usually lacked the self control to avoid chasing after the fairer sex, according to the myths.
It's why Hippolytus was so noteworthy, he was a hunter of Artemis by choice, and perfectly allowed. He only died because a queen tried to seduce him, was rebuffed, and her husband got Poseidon to kill him. And given that Artemis was the *VIRGIN* Goddess, her having a lesbian lover is equally as antithetical to her existence. More likely Calysto was just an extremely good friend and that's was what motivated her to help Calysto out. But her no longer being a virgin, even if it wasn't by choice, means that she couldn't be part of the hunting group anymore.
Artemis has been VERY strict about that, as evidenced by how she turned Actaeon into a Deer just for accidentally seeing Artemis naked.
@@Mech299 Thank you, and you made some excellent points yourself! Although I read that in those ancient times, "virgin" simply meant an unmarried woman, which would leave some wiggle room open for lesbianism - but that's been "scholarly debate," haha.
Zeus: POSEIDON, YOU GOT TO HEAR THIS ONE!
Poseidon: What is it this time, brother?
Zeus: Okay, so there were these two mortals banging in one of my temples and they didn't even THINK to invite me for a threeway.
Poseidon: What'd you do to them?
Zeus: Oh, I gave them the perfect punishment. I turned them both into lions!
Poseidon: What's so bad about being lions?
Zeus: Don't you know? Lions can only mate with leopards! Their romance is ruined forever!
Poseidon: ... Who told you that?
Zeus: Heracles did. He's such a knowledgeable boy.
Poseidon: Was he drunk at the time?
Zeus: When ISN'T he drunk?
The NPC beautiful
XDD
I don’t get how it relates to the video but it was hilarious as f*ck. 👍
Debbie Mondale Did you read the end card/the black with writing and Red’s singing?
Are you sure you didn't mean Dionyisis told Zeus he having a association with drunkenness, and leopards? Apparently Zeus favored him as well, youngest son and all that...
1:58 0 to SHIPPED in 4 seconds flat.
Alan Maslowski Same. It’s a shame he died
Their babies would've been glorious
*excuse me what the f-*
Yeet
i like how your summarized description of ancient-Greek sexism is basically primary school pettiness. i can just imagine all the Greek heroes sitting in a treehouse and shouting at Atalanta "no girls allowed", and they refuse to lower the rope ladder or something.
Bear in mind, at lot of these stories only make sense if you look at them as though you are Athenian. In Sparta, as far as I know, women in general were treated significantly better.
And then she climbs up the tree just to spite them
I can see her, in that position, legit getting a chainsaw and cutting down the tree.
@@wooyeah1738 it wouldn't be that much out of character.
@@thehighwayman3122 most spartan women were probably more macho than the men of other greek regions, they were actually taught fighting and battle tactics as if the spartan army were defeated in battle and the opposition advanced on sparta the women would be the last line of defenders.
If I was a Greek girl
"Take me Artemis! Let me join the hunters! Please!"
You have a
1% chance of that happening
50% of Zeus falling in love with you
15% of Apollo falling in love with you
10% of getting killed by a monster or a bad guy
4% chance of getting saved by a hero and Aphrodite believing that you are a cute couple forcing you to marry him and live the rest of your life as his housewife
5% of murdering your husband afterward by some stupid plot
15% of getting raped by a minor deity
10% getting sacrificed for a goddess or a god
brace your self the inevitable Aphrodite
Γρηγόρης Αράπης when the gods fall in love with a mortal they are typically beautiful so that’s a maybe maybe
That pretty much means you'd be a virgin for life
ancient Greece was pretty sexist so wlw sex wasn't considered sex so!! you could have sex w women and still be considered a virgin if u wanted
I remember reading a version of the myth where Meleager and Atlanta were actually in love with each other so she was very torn up about him dieing. Hippomene’s reminded her of him when he was hunched over and hiding the apples because that was the same way Meleager looked before he died. The apples also brought up some memories and Atlanta either decided that this was the person she was going to marry and purposely lost or.... was too distraught to actually finish the race.
I know the last one is much sadder and grosser interpretation but that something you could definitely get out of reading the passage I did.
Wow your version of the story is way better. (Also you spelled dying wrong)
Meleager held it in just long enough
I always interpreted it as she lost on purpose.
Hippomenes is stated to actually be a desciple of Chiron, one of the smartest characters in Greek Myth.
So yeah, a strong girl DOES need a smart guy.
I also read that it was Chiron who told him to ask for Aphrodite's help, to prevent what otherwise would have been another Atalanta assisted suicide.
It's incredibly rare that I say this, but the end of the story is actually very sweet.
Ethan Golden Ikr. In Greek myths, it’s rare.
Even when the story ends with them getting turned into Lions it's still kinda sweet.
Tom Hur Lions... lions can't mate
I mean, they become lions, but at least they’re together
@@ploofthesheep2887 I'm assuming you mean two lions, as in male lions, can’t mate (in terms of baby making, correct, but homosexuality has been observed in animals). Because if you are saying that a Lion and a lioness can’t mate, I am going to walk up to Mount Everest with the world’s largest megaphone and scream.
The story of Atalanta is one of my favourites, if only because it's retold so rarely despite being objectively awesome.
And please, we need full length covers of the credit songs, they're always so amazing.
we only mostly get the foot race part
There actually a book based off of this myth called nobody's princess. I read it a while back before finding this myth.
I'd like to get background information about ALL the music in her videos, especially this one.
QueenBoadicea Well this one is Strangers Like Me, by Phil Collins which was a part of the Disney Tarzan soundtrack. Which is why she mentions that being raised he bears is cooler than being raised by Gorillas.
I don't mean just the end song over the credits (I actually recognized that tune). I want to know about all of the other incidental music.
I started shipping Atalanta and the guy who helped her kill the dude in the space of two minutes.
Two minutes
I need help
Okay but same??
Is it bad that I COMPLETELY relate?
+Magic “NaLulikeJolly” Skittles nah, it's normal. Welcome to the world of crackships
yup T^T
Eleanor Barkla I was kinda upset that she ended up marrying another guy, but all's good in the end (except well, if you believe that Atalanta and Hippomedes got turn into lions)
I feel like if Meleager hadn’t died Atalanta would have married him or at least stayed friends/hunting buddies
Some versions claim that they had sex before he died, though Atalanta got pregnant and was all like "Oh crap, this will prove I broke my vow" and abandoned the kid on a mountain. Don't know what happened to him afterward though.
@@CJCroen1393 what version
@@mohammedyousef4005 Idk which ones specifically, sorry.
@@CJCroen1393 OK do you have any links or something
@@mohammedyousef4005 The source is Hyginus, a Latin author. Atalanta had a son named Parthenopaeus. Different writers say that his father was Hippomenes, Ares, or Meleager. In Hyginus's account Meleager was the father, and Atalanta abandoned Parthenopaeus to hide the fact that she wasn't a virgin anymore. Parthenopaeus would later join up with the Seven Against Thebes.
It's 1 in the morning and I was about to go to sleep. I guess this could be my bedtime story then.
The Espionage
And thus is the beauty of the internet. While it is the dead of night where you are, I am eating lunch.
The Espionage sleep tight
Enjoy your meals I guess.
Nowhere Man Thanks.
Anyone have any clue what song is playing in the background at 3:13?
I love the image that her bear mother is still around living with her hunter family and they all casually having dinners or something together
2:52
Maleger: Atalanta? I don't feel so good...
Caitlyn S TOO SOON
Maleger turns to dust like in infinity war
@@HunterPrimeVA Likely what happened...but ash.
@@davehoffman4659
Yeah
Like everyone is alive again
NO HE WAS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER
BAD FIRE WOOD CHUCKER
BAD
Probably one of the least messed up and more sweet Greek stories. I'm actually impressed.
She cut the ending.
I mean the ending only happens in some versions
I still can't remember the Atalanta's equivalent in the Heros of Olympus by Rick Rordan. I remember the part about the fire-stick guy and hoards of guys hitting on some girl and the God of love being herself.
hint: read the end credit
And yet it still involves murdering literally dozens of people, mostly because they were being jackasses! (Meleager's uncles and the suitors.)
3:20
Sweet free sword!
I love all the little background details.
So do I! It was so hilarious XD
3:10 ATALANTA HAS A BEAR PAW PRINT COFFEE MUG
it was paw prints and a hand print, probably an adorable drawing of her and her siblings childhood handprints. ya know, that thing parents do that is actually kinda weird
Catherine Tso left hand background at 1:05
Lol
I think that her being “out of character” by chasing the apple was a deliberate act so that she didn’t have to kill him
"In some versions Atalanta and Hippomenes are turned into lions by Zeus after they bang in one of his temples" DAMMIT OVID WHYYY
I mean that’s not too bad as far as transformation curses go. At least it wasn’t a flower or a tree, they are badass lions now and can still make love. I think it works in their favor.
actually, no. The greeks thought that lions couldn't mate amongst themselves. So it was a fitting punishment.
though like she said...jokes on them, and Zeus. But yeah Zeus really does have a history of being a dick, and thinking with it....
Not bad as Ovid proposing the myth that Athena punished Medusa cause she got raped by Poseidon.
Two lions (no lioness) have still a problem... Especially since Zeus reportedly used them to drive his char.
I also like to think the apples indicated to Atalanta that he actually put thought into this, and wasn’t just another impulsive kid trying to land a rich wife. He had a plan and was willing to think outside the box to accomplish his goal. She knew she wasn’t going to do much better than a guy who puts thought into major life choices and actually respects her. Or she’s like me, and gets easily distracted by gold in interesting shapes.
well i mean handing someone an apple in ancient greece was considered a proposal soo.... i guess that's why he threw golden apples and not golden oranges or something
...besides the fact that Europe didn't have oranges back then :)
true
Actually if you were proposing/confessing your love, you had to throw the apple at them and it had to hit them(usually in the head). Granted, like all things regarding Ancient Greece; sources vary.
Why thank you for the information
Fun fact, and I can't remember where I read this, but there is apparently a theory that what the ancient Greeks considered 'golden apples' may in fact have actually just been imported oranges.
There's one story where Meleager and Atalanta have a kid, but she was originally supposed to be one of Artemis' hunters, and to avoid being kicked out or found guilty of not being a virgin anymore, she Atalanta abandoned her own son on a mountaintop. Ironic.
will the circle...be unbroken? by and by...
she's a chip off the old block i guess
SixPomegranateSeeds Dang.
"The only Classical Greek Hero who manages to kick ass AND have two 'X' chromosomes?"
You mean you've never heard of Cyrene? The lady wrestled LIONS and was awesome enough to attract the romantic interest of Apollo AND Ares! :)
Vanguard-01 true. And Otrera
Vanguard-01 and all the other Amazon queens
Well, aside from Otrera, just about every other Amazon queen was eventually laid low by a male hero, so they probably don't quite count.
But Otrera? Now THERE was a badass lady! A rebel who went toe-to-toe with the Patriarchal system of the ancient world and kicked it's ass multiple times. A warrior awesome enough to hold together an alliance between Ares and Artemis. A leader who led women to join her in her rebellion.
Sure, she also committed the same atrocities that men did at the time, but we are specifically looking at her ability to kick ass. Not analyzing her morality.
she said "to my knowledge"
chances are, she saw your comment and is trying to look up Cyrene and Otrera to summarize their stories. i don't mean to sound rude, but give her a little credit
That's precisely why I made the comment. If she wasn't aware of Cyrene and Otrera, then I wanted to draw her attention to them in the hopes that she would make videos about them! ;)
The only story where Artemis and Aphrodite can work together and create a happy ending.
Waaaait... why the heck would the Greeks think lions only made love to leopards? That's... where did they think extra lions came from?
Maybe they thought lionesses were spotless leopards?
Atalanta and Hippomenes after being turned into lions : CAN YOU FEEL ~~ THE LOVE TONIGHT ~~
Zeus : Wha.. What the heck?!!
Apollo : I've told you numerous time father, Disney Movies are educational! Unlike Hercules! ....except Hercules
I do love how this big strong woman's story isn't bogged down by meeting "gasp, an equally strong man who isn't a jerk for no reason" in fact she only becomes friends with that fella before he dies, but the way she meets her love is by just actually talking to him and not hating the guy, and when he obviously cheats in the race with distractions she gets entertained by the game of bloody fetch.
Wow, this was a super nicer version than the one I read. I was taught that Meleager falls in love with Atalanta and they become a couple before he dies and so Atalanta is super sad. When the golden apples are dropped she stops to pick them up to bring to Meleager's grave because she thinks he'll like them but then the surface of the apples show her memories of better times and the last one shows Meleager's death in front of her and she's so sad she can't finish the race and weeps from the painful memories while Hippomenes walks towards her with a big goofy grin on his face after he won the race. Oh, and some hunters murder her brother bears.
While I don't disagree that the Greeks were extremely sexist, there is at least -one- more Ancient Greek figure who is capable of being badass and posessing two x-chromosomes- an entire tribe of them, actually- the Amazons. While they fill in a mostly antagonistic role, they are always built up as being honorable, badass warriors. There's also Athena, and, I would argue, Penelope. She may not be a warrior, but her political savvy and cunning has to count for something.
I think Athena was kind of a war goddess too, combined with her role as the goddess of knowledge. She's kind of my favorite figure.
Zoltán Szászi She was the goddess of strategy so yes, she did represent an aspect of war and could actually win one, unlike the brawny idiot of Ares
Zoltán Szászi she's also quite petty even for a Greek god
She is better than hara though admittedly that's not hard
But the Amazons were Roman as well as Greek, but mostly Roman, so you mean the hunters of Artemis.
Honestly the Amazons were scythians or sarmathians not greeks. This also explains why they were rivals of greek heroes in myths. Their tribe was seen as savage and foreign by the greeks themselves.
*Aphrodite finds two people who are friends and finds it cute*
Aphrodite: SHIP! SHIP! SHIP! SHIP!
Aphrodite is literally every teenage girl in our era
00:49 "So Atalanta got raised by bears, which is twice as rad as being raised by gorillas"
Me thinking:
"Look for the bare necessities
The simple bare necessities
Forget about your worries and your strife
I mean the bare necessities
Old Mother Nature's recipes
That brings the bare necessities of life"
I feel like Atalanta followed the apples on purpose so that hippomenies would win
No Aphrodite made them irresistible,so Atlanta had no choice
@@deancaswell6393 then how was hippomenes able to resist them ?
Hunter Pearson because that's how Aphrodite made them,don't ask me
@@deancaswell6393 good point
@@deancaswell6393 that's up for reader, myths tend to have many versions and in the modern world we choose the one where Atalanta gave her consent
My sister:(hears Jason,Argo and someone being tied to a piece of wood) are you hearing an audio book for Percy Jackson
Me:GET OUT
Hehehe i did that like :>
I guess you could say that the Caledonian prince was Mel *eager* to go hunting with Atalanta
Hehe.. he...
Yeah Zeus you can zap me now
I love the running in the 90s in the background
Hannah Johnson
Hamilton!! (this is like the 50th time I’ve watched this and decided to look at the comment section for once and now I’m just commenting on everyone’s comment XD))
Atalanta like shiny things huh?
I guess Fate lore of her being a cat is accurate on a certain level
She *was* turned into a lion
well fate also makes her the most boring character ever. Apocrypha did SOO many mythological figures dirty and she and joan of arc had it the worst
@@Saurooster f/go Atalante is fun, in both normal and Alter... and how things go in Anastasia with her is heartbreaking.
Also, the thing I love most about her, is every vallentiens day you can get chocolates from your female servants *And Astolfo* Or Give chocolate to your male servants *and Astolfo*. Atalante's is Literally an apple covered in chocolate with two arrows sticking out of it, and she out right says 'Here, keep it and feel free to use it in a foot race. Just be prepared because of what it means to win against me.' In the description. Which is just really sweet and further signs of How much trust actual Ritsuka builds with their servants by going out of the way to get to know them.
Except blackbeard. He can go fuck himself.
XenoplagueDoctor Fate has a lot of good characters that could improve with a good writer. It was weird making Jack the Ripper a loli but got a lot better with Fate strange. A famous serial killer that was never caught but lost his identity.
Atalanta Alter just strikes me as Atalanta as actually portrayed in legend, really.
“I’d like to capture your ceryneian hind” best pickup line ever
I love the ending Scene, Beartemis is just “I’ve got mah eye on you boy”
I'm loving the horrific, no-pupiled bears
4:23 the mama bear looks so suspicious and I love it
*Fire stick*
*Frank Zhang*
OHHHHHH
I was looking for this comment!!!😍
I knew this would be here!
Yuna, me too!
Yup bruh he is his ancestor
He is not related to zhang
Overly Sarcastic Productions, why weren't you my history teacher? The class would have been my favorite class then.
i wonder are they real history teachers?
it be interesting if they are
Great story, and nicely narrated (as usual, Red). It's just too bad about that Meleager guy. At least one of Aphrodites' ships finally worked out in a good way.
me: **begs my teacher to do the story of atalanta for our play that year, since we have never had a female protagonist**
teacher: LETS DO JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS!
F
that couldn't be more on the opposite spectrum
Oof
Make sure Jason dies by falling mast
Close but not allways the same seeing as shes in the argonauts somtimes.
when atalanta had the mug did anyone else hear take a hint in the background
yes
Leslie Emanuel yassss
Yup
What's the hint please?
Mahmoud ELLOUZE Its the song 'take a hint' from the show Victorius
Zeus - I'll turn them into lions! That'll put a stop to that hank-panky!
Aphrodite - ~*knows female lions in heat can mate up to several dozen times a day*~ LMAO!!!
Clicked so fast I fucked up the timeline again, Sorry guys.
Силер айтып жаткан бул тил деген эмне?
Goddmait, I probably had a girlfriend and a life in that other timeline
MultiHadex gosh darn it!
MultiHadex damn Barry Allen
just to save your love Iris Anne West
GOD DAMMIT!!!
MultiHadex
I like that in this version, she seems GENUINELY distracted by the first apple, but then realized she could let him win when he threw the second one
So Frank from Percy Jackson, his fire wood thing is based on Meleager?
But isn't Frank a Roman demigod not Greek? And doesn't he follow his Chinese ancestry rather than his Greek ancestry?
I'm looking way too into this... 😐
Kusari Hoshi Rick riordan probably was inspired by meleager when he thought of Frank and zur firewood thing.
I'm pretty sure the books say that "only one other hero ever had that fate" or something, so...
Kusari Hoshi
Because Hera decided he is too powerful
After the original series you can throw any semblance of mythological basis out the window with Riordan.
Distant descendant of Poseidon.
"Pretty sure they like killing stuff."
"Who dosent!"
Right!
I love how the bear is at the family reunion. That was so funny.
YYYYYAAAAAASSSSSS ATALANTA GET YOURSELF THAT RESPECT AND SWEET HUBBY
"I'm sorry, I must have misherd you. I thought there was MURDERING TO BE DONE. NOT ARTS & CRAFTS"
-Atalanta in a nutshell
I like her portrayal in the fate series. Specifically how fgo says the reason why she loses the race is because she loves some apples even though she still acts like she under the vow of purity too artermis. Also her valentine ce is a chocolate golden apple.
1:51
Atalanta's stand: Mother bear
Dang it. Why did Meleager, the one classy male hunter of the group, half to get murdered. I was really shipping him and Atlanta because of their relation with each other in the story. But of course, he just had to die and leave Atlanta up for grabs to a man who didn't seem to have very much in common with her. Even if he lived through, it may not have worked out. He was apparently married to Cleopatra, so that kind of a problem.
Cleopatra was also married to her brother
I love how Atalanta's doting parents are 3 dads and a bear!
Artemis and Orion next. Please?
I'd like to see a video about Artemis, too. She's Apollo's twin sister and HE got a video about his love for Hyacinthus.
Domestic abuse goddess.
"The only classical Greek hero who manages to kick ass and have two X chromosomes at the same time."
That 'Greek' caveat is the only thing protecting you from mention of Camilla, you know, since she was Volscian.
Well yeah Greek and Roman mythology are not really the same thing, and its not clear she's actually a myth per se so much as a creation of Vergil specifically in the Aeneid.
Also there's the butt kicking part, like Camilla seems like a gloss on the the Amazons... but like the Amazons doesn't seem to quite get to actually achieve something.
Camilla, Cyrene, Atalanta, the Amazons; the female hero trio + the matriarchal warrior nation!
It feels like Camilla is inspired directly by Atalanta, one is raised by a bear, the other suckled by a mare. They both outclass their male aquaintances in hunting and in either combat (with Camilla's Aristeia) or racing. Then they both get misogynistically prescribed the supposed feminine trait of being attracted to shiny things as Camilla gets shot by an arrow after being distracted by a dude in shiny armour. Also I would add Medea (my favourite psychopath) to the list off those who get to kick ass, although whether she can be considered heroic is somewhat dubious
Those kindergarteners who really love tag: “I’m sorry I must of misheard you I thought there was murdering to be done here not *arts and crafts* ”
I lost it when I recognized the ending song TARZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
I wonder how a story about a human raised by beasts can ever relate to this story
I actually really like this version of the story! There's something sweet in Atalanta intentionally losing against Hippomenes because she's developed a sweet spot for him and didn't want to see him killed.
me: Hmm there's nothing good on youtube, finished binging, and there wont be any chapter updates for a few more days. Might as well call it a night and - **sees the video** watch one more video before i go to sleep.
And then she went crazy and tried to kill Joan of Arc in order to avenge Jack the Ripper.
A cocky hippomenes to atalanta: " how do you like dem apples?"
3:45 What if you were raised by cheetahs? 🤔
I just discovered bears run 40 km/h, now that explains this myth!
This video inspired my latest DnD character. Playing a greek setting, female monster hunter Barbarian, stole the name for a fun reference. Literally our first quest was fighting a giant boar. Lol
meleager is like frank in the Heros of Olympus
Frank is a direct reference to Meleager. I believe that the firewood curse is even referred to as the curse of Meleager but I could be wrong.
add another e to heros and i'll be happy
It is
Ps
Frank is adorable little bear and must be hugged
I remember hearing a version of it where the apples were enchanted in a way you COULDN'T ignore them, and had to pick them up. Not sure where I heard it first, but I think that version is either in or mentioned in the book "'Percy Jackson's Greek Heroes." (Pretty good book, too)
She is raised by a bear?
Hmm...now that's explain why she's so crazy strong.
Mallegar and Hippomenes were chill dudes with Atalanta being a girl in this time and all. Nice to see not all the guys were all stereotypically against her, as she was clearly skilled and capable. Myths that often see the guys as dumb or ignorant even when faced with a battle-able woman kinda get old when it's like, there are literal female deities out here, is it too much of a stretch to believe some women could be like them too?
RIP to Mallegar for his unfortunate death BTW
The ending I was told in school was completely different. If you’re wondering what it is so basically Aphrodite followed Atalanta and Hippomenes to their wedding and Hippomenes didn’t thank Aphrodite for what she did so she basically turned both of them into lions and doomed them to forever pull the chariot of Cybele the mother of Zeus
Do you have a channel for all your song covers? I love hearing them after listening to the myths
I know!!! I love this song and am hunting for the original now.
@@beeztrapp1612 it's from Disney's Tarzan, in case you haven't found it yet.
@@mirjanbouma Thank you!!!!
@@beeztrapp1612 you're welcome!
The hilarious thing I find is that Atalanta, being one of the only stories in Greek mythology about a badass women... is still mostly concerned with the men connected to her and not Atalanta herself. She's badass for the sheer sake of having men fall for her.
TheAwakeOrangutang Which is the ironically misogynistic sad part of it.
The stereo effects on Running in the 90s are peak comedy.
I basically lost my shit after hearing Running In The 90s.
MARY SUE!
Kidding, kidding, thought it was a good joke considering the previous vid.
364dragonrider hahaha, not really, good attempt though boy.
To be fair, a lot of mythological heroes are Mary Sues with contrived backstories who does everything better than everyone else who everyone of the opposite sex wants to bang.
Then Japan turned her into an anime catgirl who reacts to apples like catnip.
BECAUSE JAPAN
I mean, Japan turned King Arthur into a gluttonous, lion-loving, naive woman in a teenager's body, so why is anybody surprised at this point?
Ilyas Basuki plus Nero
Ilyas Basuki Wait what?
Fate stay night
It's a visual novel where a teenager fucks a genderbent king Arthur.
They also made Jack the Ripper a little girl with mommy complex.
3:05 I love how this is like the sixth time I’ve watched this and I’ve only just noticed ‘Take A Hint’ from Victorious playing in the background
2:40. Frank, is that you?
HOO❤❤!!!!!!!!FRANK ZHANG BE LIKE
3:20
"sweet, free sword!"
4:47
also, what? Lions only mated with leopards?