Ratigan is a GREAT Villain! -OSPod Animatic
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Red defends Ratigan’s villainy status b/c The Great Mouse Detective is underrated. This is my first competed animatic and I’m so proud! Wonder what other OSP moments I should do?
Red's right though
Ratigan is one of the few villains who becomes so much more terrifying when the third-act breakdown happens. Most villains are left scrambling to pick up the pieces, escape to fight another day, or just completely out of options when the breakdown happens. But Ratigan just stops acting so sophisticated and polite and becomes a savage monster beating the crap out of Basil.
The best analogy I can think of is that Ratigan is a lowlife from the streets, who spent his life in back-alley brawls and knife fights, now trying to pretend he's nobility. And Basil winning makes him decide to throw all those airs out the window and go back to his roots.
If only Basil could have expected Ratigan to fight back like that when cornered...
Although many Disney Villains have attempted the same, Ratigan is one of only three Disney Villains to have canonically murdered children (in his theme song the lyrics mention "...the widows and orphans you've drowned"), along with Shan Yu from Mulan and arguably the Walrus from Alice in Wonderland.
I was like “What was that about the Walru- oh, yeah, he did. He did murder children.” I forgot about the clams for a hot second
Lets not forget the Horned King.. guy was p much genociding people in the background apparently
@@ENDtredecim To be fair most of us don't even remember the Horned King
@@Omnywrench Great Disney from you we do beseech, Knowledge that lies beyond our reach.
Frollo has almost certainly had some children burned in his 'cleanse', but that's just about as expected as Scar's famine doing the same, so it's not actually that remarkable unless actively referred to on-screen :/
She's FUCKING right.
I feel like your capitalization is a bit misplace, I think it should be
"She's fucking RIGHT"
And besides, Red is asexual so she isn't fucking at all
Damn right!
She's like... she's fully right though. I don't know how you top Price Rat with 2/3 of the songs in the movie who feeds his own lackeys to his pet cat that he somehow has if his being a rat is acknowledged. He's perfect.
Not to mention using a song he sung himself that he literally put on a vinyl record as the soundtrack for his nemesis’ death trap as he flies away in a blimp.
Red's absolutely right. There's nothing to defend, Ratigan rules.
He's tops and, that's that.
Red’s right. Ratigan friggin’ rules. Hell, Vincent Price even called him his favorite role!
She's right. Ratigan is a vile, detestable, tremendously entertaining villain who has such a great chemistry with Basil. Also, half the fun is hearing Blue and Cyan losing their minds with laughter in the background.
How can you not love to hate Ratigan? He’s the brain that brought you the Big Ben caper, the head that made headlines in every newspaper…
He’s tops and that’s that!
But did he bring us wondrous things like the Tower Bridge job? That cunning display that made Londoners sob?
And that wasn't even the real tour de force! Even more tricky and wicked, of course.
To Ratigan!
Red is correct and I will take this to my grave
Even if the great mouse detective wasn't an underated classic, which it is, Ratigan would still be the epitome of the old school pure evil disney villains, the only reason I could think that people would think otherwise is due to how the film balances him and Basil in screen time and such, and THAT is because the whole thing is set up to highlight their rivalry, they both obsess over outdoing each other and get story support to go with that.
“I’m not gonna apologize for being built different” you have now gained a fan
To Hell with top Google results, Red is so correct. Ratigan's breakdown IS awesome!
Ratigan also recorded a whole musical number for Basil to listen to before being executed by his contraption, because they have THAT kind of hero-villain relationship.
Someone else commented that Basil and Ratigan had the kind of bitter exes energy only found in gay theatre geeks and I can’t find any flaw in that comparison.
The rat was voiced by Vincent price of course he was a great villian
It was one of his favorite roles.
Ratigan was written _specifically for_ Vincent Price. Literally no other actor could have voiced him.
Ratigan walked so Jafar, Scar, Ursula, Frollo, Hades, etc. could run.
Compared to today's standards for what we get as villains, Ratigan is a great villain from a bygone era.
Ok but this is utterly spot on to OSP art! Like Red would 1000% draw herself getting burned at the stake over having her beloved classic movie oppinions challenged. Gurl is dramatic.
“Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?”
She is 110% right though. He may be a rat from a great but technically obscure disney movie, but he is pure-strain classy villain.
Rattigan is one of those wonderful cases of queer coding. They might have gone for "he's different and that makes him evil", but it ended up feeling like "he's the detective's ex, and that's why it's personal".
Fully two-sides obsession, too!
@@Runix1 you’re so right, basil’s not played straight either! They’re both dramatic theater gays with a history
Completely agreed. Personally Ratigan is one of my favourite villains ever. He inspired my love for hulking villains who are smart and sophisticated, but reveal themselve to be blood-thirsty brutes when pushed to their limits (I based the main villain of my books on this type).
Vandal Savage is another good case of being a brute deep down despite draping himself in the fine trappings of civilization and having built up his intellect
I love people turning these conversations into animations and animatics 🤣
The guy was voiced by the legend that was Vincent Price. How could he NOT be a top-tier villain?! ;)
To be fair Ratigan isn't the only Vincent Price-voiced villain people don't talk about. There's also Zigzag the Grand Vizier.
@@noahmeyer9756 There’s a very good reason why nobody talks about that.
Red is incredibly based and I'll not tolerate any The Great Mouse Detective slander.
Red's so right. It's SUCH a good movie.
She is right, The Great Mouse Detective in general is pretty underrated.
I loved ratigan he’s so hammy it’s awesome. Vincent price was a gem.
@@Ironcorgi2 ratigan is pure camp queer coded villainy and we love him for it
There’s a lot of great classic Disney villains, why not default to a personal favorite? Ratigan’s a real good one
_The Great Mouse Detective_ is great! I mean, it's literally in the title!!! And Ratigan is fantastic.
Dude woulda won if Basil hadn't shown up late for his own trap.
Red is so correct!! Great Mouse Detective is peak!!!!
Ratigan is indeed great. He's got style, charisma, intelligence, and deadly charm. And his transformation during his breakdown is so impactful because it had been building up through the movie, the tension whenever he had his buttons pushed one too many times.
He's not just a great villain... he's the world's greatest criminal mind.
This is AMAZING hahaha!
Permission to notify Red of its existence over Tumblr if you haven't yet?
@@nullarts3059 thank you! Absolutely you can if you want, thank you for asking!
@@PurpleQuestionsand they did, which is how I got here. This was hilarious.
@@PurpleQuestions Crawling back from Tumblr to say it has been seen! As is deserved you did this moment so much justice!
I completely agree with Red here
This is iconic I love it
Red's right Great Mouse Detective in general and Rattigan in particular are amazing.
I thought this was Ratigan from Elden Ring and was surprised she had such a take lol
Hahaha, this was great! So happy to see more OSPod animatics - keep up the great work!
Thanks so much!
Good style on the animation.
Prince John fans suffering in the back.
Prince John has fans?
Ratigan is up there in the tier list tho
Reds absolutely based
Red may be outta line, but she’s right.
I mean, i get it, Ratigan is a good villain, and i did really like the movie.
But never in a million years would he pop out if i was listing "the greats"
Hold up, people think Ratigan is NOT a great Disney villain?
Everyone is ALWAYS saying "Oh, Atlantis is so underrated! No one's ever heard of Treasure Planet!" And while I love those movies to death, they're almost mainstream obscure (If that makes sense!) But I hear nearly no one talk about Great Mouse Detective! And I will stand by Red to defend Ratigan's greatness in villainy!
Ratigan's one of my favorites too!
I will say, Ratigan is not one of the greats when it comes to Disney villains in people's minds, and doesn't hold a candle to Ursula, Jafar, Scar, etc. BUT HE SHOULD BE! From what I've seen of him, he's a very underrated villain.
ratigan is a great villain!
Great Mouse Detective is my third favorite Disney Canon film and a not unsubstantial part of that is based on the strength of Ratigan as a character. I don't understand how anyone who has actually seen the film wouldn't feel similarly. But then again, I'm often surprised by the general populace undervaluing or outright hating decent to great works.
tbf, Red, it's Vincent Price voicing him, you can't really go wrong with him
this is great!
i read the title as "Red defends Regan" as in Ronald Regan
No, no. She’s got a point.
I was expecting Elden ring for some god forsaken reason.
I don't care much for Great Mouse Detective, but my problem with it isn't Ratigan.
(My problem with it is that while you can make a story GOOD without making it SMART, you CAN'T make a good SHERLOCK HOLMES pastiche without making it smart. And Great Mouse Detective is not smart. At all.)
Thx for the video
Red's right.
They hated Jesus because he spoke the truth too
Ratigan is top 3 if not #1
Indigo looks like Amity blight, nice
I liked Ratigan... in the original books.
But the thing is the great mouse detective is a better movie than the little mermaid.
Great Mouse Detective, Emperor’s New Groove, Rescuers Down Under - holy trinity of absolutely perfect Disney movies that NEVER get the respect they deserve
Treasure Planet?
@@BawonoSA173that and Atlantis have grown massive cult followings. Much more appreciated today
@@bthsr7113You're saying that like Emperor's New Groove also hasn't
@@sebastienvondoom8615Well you got me, by all accounts it doesn’t makes sense
I don't know about the vast majority of people, but i watched the emperors new school on disneychannel whenever i visited my grandparents house, when i was younger. (We didn't have disneychannel at my house)
Can we appreciate how Blue also defaults to "off the dome" rather than "off the bat" which is extremely in character
@@herothecrow994 wait that’s so funny, I never noticed that!
Is that unusual? "Of the dome" is a common phrase now, right?
@@_zurr Blue and domes...it's sort of a thing. :)
@@_zurr It is. It's just kind of funny considering how obsessed with domes he is.
Why ya'll laughin she right! The Great Mouse Detective is very underrated and deserved a sequel or at the very least a series dedicated to Basil of Baker Street versus Ratigan!
There were some decent comic stories.
YO DISSING MY FAVORITE DISNEY VILLAIN HERE! Red got taste
How can you diss the one villain who loves it when he's nasty?!
Ratigan is the start for one of my favorite tropes! I love the 3rd act breakdowns.
One of the best Disney villains and one of Vincent Price's best roles! Would not be surprised that part of what helped make Ratigan such a cool villain was having Vincent Price on board (a guy famous for a lot of his villain and protagonist roles in horror movies with Roger Corman). Also, he's acted alongside Basil Rathbone in some movies (the guy that inspired the name for Basil in the movie), so it all kinda fits well together. ^^
The Great Mouse Detective was the true beginning of the "Disney Renaissance," I will be taking no questions.
(Also, Shere Khan **could** have filled the same role, if he hadn't waited until the last ten minutes of the movie to show up.)
Of course Red, it isn't your fault you are a 2 dimensional Robot.
Red's right, though, about Disney villains then vs now. I haven't seen Great Mouse Detective in a really long time but villains like Scar, Ursula and Frollo were all S-tier because they weren't just evil; they also had motives and goals. Disney villains nowadays are either just "I'm evil for the story's sake" or "Am I evil or just misunderstood?"
I mean, ursurla and jafar and scar motives were pretty simple of "i hate the current king, i SHOULD be king' and that's about it
They were unapologetically evil. They were doing bad things and didn’t care and as much as I love a good villain with a depressing backstory or is a misunderstood victim, there’s something alluring about a fictional villain that is all in on what they’re doing regardless of others opinions
I blame _Wicked._
Did you know that the second _Land of Oz_ book stars a boy who learns at the end of the story that he’s actually Princess Ozma, the true heir to the throne of Oz, who was turned into a boy as an infant and now has to return to his original body to become the ruler? And after Dorothy moves to Oz permanently, she and Ozma become such good friends that Dorothy is the only other person allowed into Ozma’s bedroom?
Do I seriously need to spell out the potential this has in modern society? We could have so many adaptations about the sorceress-queen of Oz being a teenager with severe gender identity issues who’s romantically involved with Dorothy, a farm girl from the early 1900s with zero understanding of anything non-heteronormative but more than enough bravery to not hide from her own feelings.
But instead all we get is “Oh, the villain was a misunderstood victim and everything bad they did is actually society’s fault, a-bloo-a-bloo-a-bloo.”
Thanks for the video.
The way Indigo says “Rattigan?” Kills me
@@masquerabe6692 truly! I must’ve redrew that frame several times to try to perfectly match the incredulity in her voice
Ratigan is, pun intended, one of the most CRIMINALLY underrated Disney of all. You have Vincent Price in what he described to be one of his favorite roles of all time AND IT SHOWS!!!
Also, not surprisingly, Ratigan is my favorite villain to play as in the Disney Villainous board game. The secretive secondary objective in case the first one goes wrong takes other players by surprise if they don't know it's a thing and I won my first time ever playing him because of it!!
Great Mouse Detective in general is criminally underrated as well as Disney Animation's unsung hero due to how it SAVED DISNEY ANIMATION after The Black Cauldron almost shut the whole department down (there legitimately was a moment where Disney was going to do only live-action work but Great Mouse Detective was enough of a hit for them to give animation another chance...I mean, after that was Oliver & Company...and then Who Framed Rodger Rabbit was also released around that time...and then The Little Mermaid put Disney Animation properly back on the map!)
"Ratigan and Ursula and Scar" ah yes, the "incredibly freaking gay" school of villain design
I was really hoping it would be a breakdown of how RADIGON was a great villain 😞
Great Mouse Detective is my all time favorite Disney film (alongside Rescuers Down Under and Atlantis TLE)
Rattigan really only worked because how well he bounced off Bazil
Also those two are definitely exs
@@troperhghar9898 they were ABSOLUTELY exes! That extra chair in Basil’s house was definitely for Ratigan! Who in the world would have a framed picture of someone they claimed to hate, huh BASIL??
His breakdown is so iconic he's the only character in the Villainous board game to have 2 objectives. If his plan is stopped at the last minute his objective becomes just "Kill Basil"
Calm down everyone, it's just red being a furry
From the brain that brought you the Big Ben Caper
The head that made headlines in every newspaper!
I’m so glad you animated the OSPod! It’s so rare to see but immensely appreciated❤️.
Red's out of line, but she's right. Come on it's Vincent Price, how could they not be incredible?
Honestly, if all the Disney villains were thrown on a continent and made to fight for control in basically a war of villainy, I feel like Ratigan would stand a good chance of coming up top because no one would pay attention to him. He can assemble all the tiny critters in the continent, have them infiltrate the dwellings of the big players and essentially be in charge of the information war. With his penchant for scheming there’s no end to how he could control everyone and everything to his whims.
But the thing is though is that Red is right! Ratigan is a great villian! I mean, come on! Moriarty as a rat?! That's perfect!
I agree with Red, which is why while it wasn’t the best Disney movie I liked Wish because we got an honest to goodness villain in it, one who doesn’t get redeemed in the end. It was a breath of fresh air in my opinion.
Look Tatigan is a good villain, but he's definitely not in the same league as Scar and Ursula.
The great mouse detective is legitimately my favorite Disney film of all time and I will die on that hill next to red. Ratigan is also one of the best Disney villains ever created and no you will not change my mind.
How can you think of someone voiced by Vincent Price as *not* a great villain?
No no, she has a point. Ratigan loses his crap and just turns into a feral rat, and that’s sick.
She's right, you know.
Why you booing, she’s right!
Red is my Disney queen.
Red is just correct
I love that damn rat
I love your art!❤❤
AMEN
Ratigan is a light version of Klayton from Tarzan, (one of the greatest disney villain)
so yes and no, he's like a simpler, more childish, less deep version of a great villain, but still have all the component of one, just diluted a bit.
Why are you booing me, I’m right?