You should have used a native RF Lense on the Canon. Sony had a native lens and the Canon was using the EF 50mm f1.2 which is not a very good lens. I have the RF 50mm f1.2L USM and it's extremely superior to the EF 50mm f1.2L.
Fun intro 🤪😂 I’m shooting both of these 2 very good hybrid cameras for almost a year now. They are very similar but over the time my usage shifted as I was progressing with my work (commercial and corporate videos). Here’s the experience I can share: The A73 was my first full frame camera, I got it with the Zeiss 16-35f4 which is excellent, compact, stabilized. When I needed more reach I used the aps-c crop. Then I got the excellent Tamron 28-75, I shot really cool stuff with that but I needed a second camera so I gave a shot to the EOS R when released. No more debate for me, I had both the most popular bodies. I quickly got a whole bunch of used EF and top EF-L glasses on eBay which is a cool thing with Canon. The ergonomics of the EOS R are better, so I started using it more just because it was more enjoyable, and I was picking up the A73 mostly for what I was only missing in the EOS R, the 1080p at 120fps. Then 3 months ago I bought a Ninja V and starting editing ProRes 10bit 422 footage. This helped me significantly to reach another level with my productions, and brought me more clients with bigger budgets. My best investment yet in 2019! Then this also broke my relationship with my A73 and its limited 8 bit output. So I bought an X-T3 because it would output 10 bit 422, just to try it. Not only it replaced the A73 with a much better codec for my 120fps needs (200mbps/10bit420 internally), but also it gave me a phenomenal 4k60 ProRes on the Ninja V. I just sold my A73 a month ago, no regret. Now I’m looking at a more pro level cinema camera, but this will be for another discussion. My thoughts after 1 year: The Sony A73 has been a much better photography camera than the EOS R for me (for me): It is smaller, faster, good AF and easy to edit in raw to get the colors you want in stills. The EOS R has been a better video camera for me (again, for me): ergonomics are ultimate, internal codecs and output options are better resulting in a better image quality in my videos with more flexibility in editing, good L lenses are more affordable than E mount, digital IS combined with lens IS are far superior to the very mediocre IBIS of the A73. Finally the X-T3 besides the major drawback of being a cropped APS-C has replaced my A73 (exact same small body size) with better 120fps and also better stills, and brought 4k60 10 bits to my arsenal. As it does not offer any sort of stabilization, it’s on my gimbal most of the time. I will look at Sony again if they release (one day) the A7S3. I would probably give it a try if it has a 10 bit 422 output and the same specs of the A73 with a better IBIS or Digital IS (that’s the future guys, look at GoPro7 or Osmo Action). That’s it. And this would be already a major step from Sony. Honestly we should not expect 4k60 no crop and 10 bits internally because that’s what they give you on the brand new $10k Sony FX9. Sorry. In conclusion, based on my personal experience and needs, I would recommend the A73 more for photography oriented work, and the EOS R more for video oriented work. They are both absolute monsters and incredible value. I hope this helped.
@@tonykyle thanks for the feedback! Just to give you an update 2 years later lol, I now have 2 Canon R5 and still have my Eos R that I use as a fixed third camera and "action" camera with a 10-18 Efs. It is still perfectly working and has been 100% reliable in harsh conditions like saltwater, sand, mud, and snow. I got my first R5 the day it came out, and since then I haven't watched any reviews or TH-cam video on any newer cameras, it's a total endgame for me. I know there has been a lot of controversy about the overheating, I've never had that issue (and I'm half time in South Florida). Still running Ninja Vs for ProRes, and besides a ton of Dji stuff this is all I've been using for almost 2 years now. Never looked back, never looked elsewhere, not even at newer Canon cameras as they keep updating the R5's firmware all the time with new features.
Your AF tests 29 to 30 frames per second on both cameras on medium drive speed !!! Which cameras were you using again ? Canon:- With Servo AF enabled (continuous autofocus), Canon claims the EOS R's max burst speed is 5.0 fps, however we didn't test that in the lab. When shooting Dual Pixel RAW files, the camera drops down to Continuous Low mode which is rated at 3.0 fps for standard files and 2.2 fps for Dual Pixel RAW files. Sony:- In Continuous Hi+ mode, the Sony A7 III's top burst speed is a claimed 10 frames per second, and that's with continuous AF/AE. In the lab, the A7 III tested very close to that spec, at about 9.9 frames per second with just JPEGs, and about 9.7 frames per second with uncompressed RAW files. Both cameras after a 3 second burst, canon 6-9 shots, sony 27-29 shots. So even with your test where the sony lost 4 shots you still have 16 more usuable shots compared to the canon. If you want to do a proper AF test have the model walk 10 feet, take as many shots as possible and then see how many are in focus at the end.
I'm seeing a massive difference in sharpness at 2:42 when you blow the pictures up. The Sony is clearly sharper on the eyes and teeth, yet you say there's no difference?
@@TheSlantedLens Hey, you don't see it then you don't see it. Only yesterday I saw a comparison shot from the a7iii and a Fuji xt3. The Fuji was a far sharper shot, but completely the opposite to my own experience when switching systems from Fuji to get into full frame. Either way though, I always enjoy your videos :D
The sharpness will be down to the lens not camera. The EF 50 1.2 is not a very sharp lens. Now if it was the RF 50 1.2 that might be a different story.
@@domtomas1178 I didn't mention camera body or lens used, I was just commenting on the fact that he's not able to see quite a clear difference in sharpness between the two images. On a side note though, surely the canon lens should be sharp by f2.8!?
I have both. Bought the A7iii as soon as it came out to use as a gimbal camera. But I couldn’t stand the color and low bit rate for 4k. S-log’s range seems great until you go to grade that over-compressed codec. I picked up the EOS R, and now my A7iii is mostly collecting dust. Even the in-camera codec on the EOS R is better to work with, and c-log is so much easier to grade than s-log (IMO). The crop is annoying, but in a few cases, the extra range has also been GREAT to have.
I don't know if I'm the only one who been noticed this, but these is a heavy campaign on TH-cam trying to make the people think the canon is better like Sony. I use both cameras and sony is way better.
@@JesticeBrown " almost every creator on TH-cam has done a review on it" Oh come on, don't go overboard like that. Moreover, we always see campaigns and product demos/loans for all the major products, including Sony, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic and Fuji. Finally, in order to " to make the people think the canon is better" the videos would have to be (a) explicitly favoring Canon and (b) doing so when the people making the video otherwise wouldn't have made the recommendation. Here we see Jay giving some points to each camera, saying he'd probably go Canon... but might change his mind. If Canon paid him off he's a pretty bad shill.
That was the least professional test of them all. These testers forget to check what firmware they're using, and also probably seen more comprehensive tests with a model turning around and moving in and out of frame.
@@jenghawyau7206 All I'm saying is that the A7iii and the A9 are different cameras with the updates and without them, so that information should be included in any review. I believe that the EOS R also has updates that make a difference.
“i can’t stand the crop factor on the R” and then at the end of the video “i think i learn to live with the crop factor” okay, so anyways i bought the A7III and i tried the Canon EOS R , sony misses on auto white balance a little bit but not a huge issue. canons touch-bar is horrible. sony’s a bit small in the hands, and canon is a little confusing in terms of where the buttons are, but i’m sure you’d get used to it where sony has buttons very reasonable, and intuitive (also has 4 custom buttons). i’d say try both of these cameras for a little , and make your choosing
You need to investigate what Canon calls "focus points." They are not focus sensors. It is software manipulation the "focus points" are not true phase detection or contrast detection sensors.
Thanks for the review. Trying to make this very decision now. Two amazing cameras each with their own flaws. 4K is the hype everyone is pushing yet only see 1080p posted everywhere so that is no issue for me. If the a7iii had a flip out lcd like the canon then it would be so much easier for me to consider. Having canon glass for 20+ years also is an issue unless I want to spring for all new. At least if I stay Canon I can convert slowly to R glass ifs I so desire. Leaning to the R.
I am new to Sony, coming from several years of Canon cameras. My A73 is so damn busy with menu options. I got it for better dynamic range and 4k shooting (things CANON is holding out on, cause they are focused on the semi-pro consumers). I am really not liking this camera. It's like IOS to Android (which I use both). I don't feel like I should have to spend forever setting up menus and turning stuff on to get a damn photo. Feels counter productive. Nikon and Canon out of the box is pretty damn straight forward. Even Fuji is. ..Anyways, thanks for the video. Now I gotta look up how to setup eye detection. Sheesh.
Arguably the R is a better youtube camera. I think for stills I'd go A7III all day (and I did, prior to the release of the R). Now I'm a little bit jealous of the 1080 video quality, but it think I'd get very frustrated with how the R works functionally. Lack of customizable buttons, that dumb touch scroll wheel, 4k crop etc.
On the first side by side comparison I can clearly see the Sony is not only a lot sharper the Sony also shows real skin structure where the Canon gives a mushy yellow-ish smeary cheap makeup look like on a model's face who is standing in harsh sunlight at 100 degrees Fahrenheit straight for an hour.
@@Miketz I fully agree with you on that. It's a pity the comparison wasn't based on equal rules. I too wish it was made with the 50mm f1.2 RF version instead.
Any half-decent photographer should be able to see that one image was sharper than the other and know why that was the case, and yet they were determined to be "the same" and then quickly moved on to the next test. The cynical among us could make a legitimate claim that he is merely encouraging discussion and comments, which is disappointing.
I had worse experience with autofocus on the R than you. But is effective 3fps with continuous af on the R going to limit you? A7iii can do 10fps with CAF tracking.
@@TomasRamoska There have been LOTS of tests between compressed and uncompressed and guess what? The difference is insignificant. I'd rather have 10FPS of compressed than 3FPS uncompressed.
Just to say I use Canon 600d (two of them) and a Samsung NX11 - which I will use until they pack in :-)...so no bias from me. Sony was way better than the Canon. I opened 2 tabs in my browser to make detailed comparisons and the Canon was softer...far more detail from the Sony - this could be the glass (likely?!) and the dynamic range, especially the highlight comparison... definitely the Sony was better. The colours are so similar, plus editing will often change all of that, It all boils down to what glass and system you are coming from and are invested in...I suppose. I wonder if in doing testing the cameras used are not identified until the end and are given a letter - Camera A and Camera B and some images are in B&W to hide the colour difference...just an idea but good to see the comparison. Keep up the good work.
I agree the Sony looked to have significantly more detail in this video! It was very obvious to me! I shoot with a 550d. It's time for an upgrade and I would go Sony, however, I am invested with lenses, therefore making the EOS R a more sensible upgrade as you say. Hopefully my Tamron A007 24-70 plays well with the R.
50 L lens is beautiful, but is NOT particularly sharp. 50L more of an artistic lens. Use a 35mm f/1.4L II or any of several other canon lenses for ultimate sharpness.
re: sony being warmer. I have done some tests with my 5D-ii and a7Riii and have found the lenses had more effect on the colour balance than the sensor. (But having said that, the Canon produced warmer tones than the Sony when using the same lens) The fact that the Canon was producing consistantly warmer images in your dynamic range tests suggests that the apparent warmth of the Sony image was a quirk of the location and lighting for that shot. As for 'image quality', the Sony looks sharper than the Canon, but that probably comes down to the lenses used, I would put money on things being a lot different if you'd used an RF mount lens. (as much as I love my 50/1.2, it is a bit old and shouldn't really be compared to the new wave of super-sharp glass)
Yes I agree that glass will have an effect on color balance more than the sensor. But it also depends on the software in the camera. If you compare 5d ii, 5d iii, and 5d iv I'm sure under different lighting each camera will render color differently, some might be warmer and some cooler. I dont think it will always be consistent 100%. So it is possible for Sony camera to reproduce warmer tones than a Canon under certain lighting conditions. And its possible for a Canon camera to reproduce warmer tones than a Sony under different lighting conditions.
Personally, I like having crop. Considering I don't have a 70-200. Having the crop helps haha. I don't really see different in crop or no crop when it comes to video quality
Interesting stuff. I was wondering about something. I never underexpose 5 stops and push it. What I do quite often is expose for the highlights and push the shadows. Or maybe pull back the highlights and raise the shadows. I do a lot of outdoor shooting where I can not use a flash or a tripod. A test like that (with different ISO's) would possibly be more interesting.Which camera immage woujld hold up better in a situation like that? Great intro by the way!
@9:05 you said that on 20 frames you had none out of focus.. but in seems to me that sony focus were sharper, more detailed.. (even if I've a "canon heart" )
Cmon man..what are you seeing Iam not? in low light the A73 spanks canons sensor . Iso 3200-6400 the Sony was cleaner.. also the Sony has more detail hands down🤦🏻♂️
What you found is why I have an EOS R body and an A7III body. Sold my dSLR bodies and in process of buying lenses for both systems and trying not to overlap much. I found similar. Overexposing a problem for Canon EOS R. Buying primes for Sony and zooms for Canon. Do have to expose for highlights more with Canon as well as bracket more.
I’m really loving the image/colors used to shoot this video! Just like the look, for whatever reason. If you don’t mind (or if anyone else happens to know, since I’ve never see his videos before this one), what camera is being used to shoot this video? Really appreciate it! Thanks!
I am new to photography, can you explain to me why it matters if one camera is betterthan the other when the exposure is incorrect? What does that demonstrate about the camera?
Why @the slanted lens is BIASED in his comparisons, and why he always wants to bash SONY: at 4:28, you see how he is not stating the obvious he is saying "Just a little bit of colors shift on her face" ... REALLY? just a bit ?? how about her shirt and pants ? Look at those weird red lines and noise. Those red lines makes the image unusable. at 2:49. You're comparing 30MP sensor vs 24MP sensor and you say you don't see tons of difference? There are clear and obvious differences. First, look at her cheeks, on the canon it has yellowish/greenish color while the Sony looks a bit more neutral. Then look at the overall image specially at her eyes, the 24MP sensor is quite sharper. Why not admit that? Also when you compare the shots of her walking towards the camera. You're comparing 11 FPS vs 5 or 6 FPS? If Canon could shoot the same amount as Sony, we might be able to see quite a few out of focus. You're comparing 30 photos vs 15 for example, if 3 out of 30 out of focus, you still have 27 good focused images. On the canon, you have 15 only even if they are all in focus. See the difference?
Maybe wait later this year for the A7s3 (after the A92). It should have 4K 60p and have10 bit output. Maybe other improved video features over the A73.
"It's gotta be 4K nowadays. Nobody wants to shoot anything that isn't 4K." Uploads video in 1080p. The sooner bloggers stop obsessing over 4K, the better.
@@guusverschuuren8495 Actually, recording in 1080p and uploading in 4k gives you the best of both worlds. Less storage needed, high quality videos on youtube. A 1080p upload looks meh on youtube, even if it was recorded in 4k. But a video recorded in 1080p, exported in 4k and uploaded in 4k looks great. It's the youtube codecs...
@ FloatingOnAZephyr Better to say nothing about things you know little about and have people think you are an idiot then to start typing about things you know little about and remove all doubt that you are. There are huge advantages to shooting in 4K even if you are uploading at 1080. Lots of people prefer to shoot in for 4K for those advantages, many aren't even bloggers. People will not stop obsessing over it until 8k comes out and becomes the norm. The only company not putting 4K in its cameras is the one that stays years behind the others. Canon, every 3-4 years they come out with a new 3-4 year old camera.
@@guusverschuuren8495 Other than cropping headroom in post, I'm not sure it does. A good 2K is better than a bad 4K all day long. Crop isn't unimportant, of course, but it's a high price to pay in terms of storage and post.
I don't know if I agree with this. I watch all my TH-cam at 1080p, largely because I use Safari and VP9 content doesn't go above 1080p in Safari. I've opened the same video Chrome in the past and swiped between the 4K and 1080p and the difference is extremely small. That was with MKBHD videos, shot on a RED. It feels like an internet myth that uploading 1080p upscaled to 4K helps. I only upload to Vimeo, so I could be wrong.
Canon looks better. Hair is looking very cool btw. Thanks for the honest choice at the end of your video. Your content always functionally useful to consumer
i have a problem, i have canon eosr and tamron 24-70mm (the good one) and it starts making the sound, flicker and have problem time to time with focucing, it like freece.
Was a Canon shooter for years and switched to the Sony A7iii last fall and love it!! Both cameras are great but the Sony feels more intuitive to me. Go for what feels most natural to you.
Because of autofocus you‘re buying the EOS R? 😂 what a joke... Sony‘s autofocus is so much better in both photo and video! The A7 III has better image quality as well, even in all your samples.
Daniel Schmidt I have an a7riii and the EOS R. I completely disagree the eos r focus is much better. Sony shows the eye in focus but you find out it’s not even though the box is on the eye. The canon she’s the face is in focus and it’s nearly perfect every time the hit rate is better on the eos r. The iq of the eos r with r lenses is pretty close to the a7riii. The colour on the Canon blows the Sony out of the water.
The Slanted Lens lol, it is all good!! My wife has the same issues with numbers!! Hey, I have a video request I know so many people would enjoy! So many can’t decide weather to get a full frame or crop sensor camera. Could you do a video comparing the a7III & the a6600? A video with the iso tests, and over/under exposures? You know, a normal video just comparing those 2?
I believe you should do a retake with the RF lenses for Canon. the EF 50 1.2, I own one and it is by far the fastest accurate lenses I had, but it is a pro level, meaning it doesn't forgive your mistakes. Danielle is very pretty. she should start her own channel. She would do way better
@@TheSlantedLens back in 2004 I bought my first mirrorless Sony. Zeiss glass, excellent pics. I do admire Sony. I was curious if you had a Z7 and what is your opinion on that camera
Canon EOS R is only for those having Canon lenses. For others it is very few R lenses and it is stupid to start buying EF lenses in 2019 when you have no intention to buy a Canon DSLR.
If you were comparing, for example GH5 and Sony A7III in video, would u use the same focal length? If so, wouldn’t you complain about the crop on the 5H5? Instead, like in real life, wouldn’t you pick the focal length that gives you the framing you want? For example, compare A7III at 50mm with EOS R at 24mm (I know not exact equivalent). I always pick the lens that gives the framing I want. I have from 10mm to 200mm lenses for the EOS R, so the crop doesn’t really matter.
what color profile did you use for the R? i found that when i was shooting with my 5d, the adobe neutral was my favorite, but with the R, i find i'm more likely to work with Camera Faithful.
I use the RIII but don’t have those AF problem, even with higher frame rates. To tell people that the more AF points are a reason for switching, is close to bullshit, because those numbers are only marketing. By the way, the colors of the Canon look terrible at the headshot.
The Canon has one card slot and cannot shoot multiple frames in the silent mode so that has stopped me from buying the R and I own all Canon glass. For mirrorless I had been using the Fuji XT-2 system and I was waiting from the R to come out. I was looking at the Sony a9 system too. I was very disappointed with the R with it only having one cad slot. Why did Canon do that? I have had a 2 shoots now where my CF card was corrupted and I learned my lesson that I will never shoot with just one card in the camera.
@@dphotos007 Totally agree with you. Shot canon for over 30 years (ae-1 to 5diii) and kept putting off going mirrorless until canon came out with one. After years of putting off sonys the pos R finally came out. What a HUGE disappointment it was to shoot. Sent it back before the 30 days were up at B&H and bought the a7iii even though I had tons of canon gear. Love the a7iii and REALLY loved the a9. Hope to get an a9 new when the a92 comes out.
Rubi Doo I have been shooting professionally since 1980 and I was using the Canon AE-1 system back when I started. I have been very loyal to the Canon brand and I was one of the first CPS members. I love the CPS program. They did that right but Canon has lost a good long time customer in me. I have bought all the high end primes and zooms with three systems. The AE-I, EOS film and started my digital life with Canon with the 1DS Mark ll. The body alone cost $8000.00 on that camera. Now I have Canon 5D Mark lll bodies and have waited patiently for this pro Canon mirrorless camera to come out and this was the best they could do? Have only one card slot was the big message to me to pass on this camera now I can’t wait any longer. I have had my shutters replace twice and I am close to 1,000,000 shutter counts in both bodies. The electronic mother boards are starting to do funky things with both Cameras and I will not replace any more parts. I need new cameras and will have to take a bath on the lenses when I sell them. My Canon cameras will now become paper weights.
@@MauiKao I'm confused which one to buy: R vs A7iii I'm currently having Nikon D5300 with 18-55 kit and 50mm f1.8 prime lenses Now I wanna switch and upgrade I'm just a casual photographer, interested more in taking portraits and landscapes Video is not a priority for me I'm lazy to postprocess I won't buy costly lenses I may buy samyang MF lenses for portraits, or cheaper 85 or 135 mm AF lenses Samyang lens for landscape I'm never gonna shoot 4k, so crop factor is no issue to me Image quality and colours are my priority And the system that is easier to handle is my way to go Please let me know what to buy: R vs A7iii (I have soft corner for Canon, but f**k that soft corner)
Really, you don't see a ton of difference between the left and right at 2:49? There is a world of difference in sharpness, can't believe this isn't mentioned? Obviously that is due to the res but as this is about the sensor it is after all a huge part of it.
I am shooting raw on all tests except the autofocus. I process in camera raw and make very few adjustments. I don't play with the sharpness or color. They are processed as a clean raw image.
Sony is definitly sharper, you can tell at 2:40. Sharper eyes, lips, skin, and teeth. How could you not see that big difference? In the walking test, the models eyes weren't fully in focus on the EOS R. Sony missed a few frames, but was more consistant. I think Sony is more reliable between the two.
Channel must have been sponsored by Canon since the last time they ran a test. Over 30 years of shooting canon starting with a AE-1 and ending with the 5diii. Tried a POS R to replace the 5diii for almost a month. What a turd of camera. Crap ergo, senseless bar on the top, no joystick, single slot, eye AF is a total joke and a AF system that has a hard time hitting every shot at a GLACIAL 3fps. a7iii is a better body in every single way. a7iii has better AF, BY FAR. Even at higher speed (9fps vs 3fps) it has a better hit rate a7iii has a better sensor that has better DR . a7iii has eye af that actually works and animal eye af that is fn amazing. It will take canon YEARS to catch up to sonys af system. Even your in test show the a7iii to be sharper, yet your view on that is slanted towards the canon for some reason. The only person that should be taking the POS R over the a7iii would be somebody that has tons of canon glass and wants to hope that canon will make a good mirrorless camera in the next decade. After a weekend with a rented a7iii I sent the POS R back to B&H and bought a a7iii. Slowly sold off most all the canon lenses and buying native mount sony's. Dont regret it for a minute.
i can't understand people whoi are pay too much attention for ISO 6400 or higher. Any camera can't do beautiful clean image at this ISO and higher lol. Its just ridiculous how high ISO overrated
would have loved to see a colorgrade from a log on both camera's to see when the sky starts to show banding. Otherwise great video, i'm split between both of these aswell.
The Slanted Lens it will come but it’ll be 7k.... eosr is a great b-cam if considered a great 1080p 10bit camera. A lot cheaper than a c100 and it’s great for photos.
AcidicDelusion the x-h1 is great but the main difference is that it doesn’t have the look of full frame. But the colors or definitely better than Sony. But canon has best if both worlds... but xh1 is better in drive speed. They all have good points.
@@reckerproduction9468 I own both the 24-70 GM and the Tamy as well! Im really surprised how good the Tamron keeps up with the "big boy* but the overall rendering and the bokeh is just superior when I compare those 2 !
Heya JP, adapting lenses is never great, but I will say that I have noticed the same EF Lens behaves completely differently on my a73/a7r3 depending on what adapter I use. MC-11 is simple and works very nicely with Sigma lenses, but the MetaBones has the basic / advanced switch that can also really change the behavior., so maybe worth messing with that before putting your cash down on the barrel for either body. I have some lenses that are great on one adapter and terrible on the other. I have to admit I got frustrated with having to think about mode/adapter to use and am leaving my Canon glass at home most of the time. I am sure adapting EF lenses to RF body is a lot better than the third party shenanigans I have dealt with, but I imagine you will end up native RF or FE mount in a year or two anyway.
This is not even a question. The Sony is a mature product vastly superior to this 1st Gen Canon camera. Only blind fanboys will pick the Canon over the Sony
Just compare the specification. 60 frames per second with full HD Canon is a joke. Nikon - 120 frames per second full hd. 12 serial images Nikon. Canon - 8. + Nikon lenses are sharper. And Canon is much more expensive.
Ergonomics canon? Have you shot the pos R? Shot canon over 30 years and I found the R to be even worse then Sony's (which I didnt like either). The pos R has HORRIBLE button placement, that stupid swipe pad up top, no joystick and a rear touchscreen the only works if you are right eye dominant . The thing was trash to shoot. Canon saw all the press sony was getting for having bad ergo and was like "hold my beer, we can beat that" Because even bad press is good press.
You should have used a native RF Lense on the Canon. Sony had a native lens and the Canon was using the EF 50mm f1.2 which is not a very good lens. I have the RF 50mm f1.2L USM and it's extremely superior to the EF 50mm f1.2L.
Fun intro 🤪😂 I’m shooting both of these 2 very good hybrid cameras for almost a year now. They are very similar but over the time my usage shifted as I was progressing with my work (commercial and corporate videos).
Here’s the experience I can share:
The A73 was my first full frame camera, I got it with the Zeiss 16-35f4 which is excellent, compact, stabilized. When I needed more reach I used the aps-c crop. Then I got the excellent Tamron 28-75, I shot really cool stuff with that but I needed a second camera so I gave a shot to the EOS R when released. No more debate for me, I had both the most popular bodies. I quickly got a whole bunch of used EF and top EF-L glasses on eBay which is a cool thing with Canon.
The ergonomics of the EOS R are better, so I started using it more just because it was more enjoyable, and I was picking up the A73 mostly for what I was only missing in the EOS R, the 1080p at 120fps. Then 3 months ago I bought a Ninja V and starting editing ProRes 10bit 422 footage. This helped me significantly to reach another level with my productions, and brought me more clients with bigger budgets. My best investment yet in 2019! Then this also broke my relationship with my A73 and its limited 8 bit output. So I bought an X-T3 because it would output 10 bit 422, just to try it. Not only it replaced the A73 with a much better codec for my 120fps needs (200mbps/10bit420 internally), but also it gave me a phenomenal 4k60 ProRes on the Ninja V. I just sold my A73 a month ago, no regret. Now I’m looking at a more pro level cinema camera, but this will be for another discussion.
My thoughts after 1 year:
The Sony A73 has been a much better photography camera than the EOS R for me (for me): It is smaller, faster, good AF and easy to edit in raw to get the colors you want in stills.
The EOS R has been a better video camera for me (again, for me): ergonomics are ultimate, internal codecs and output options are better resulting in a better image quality in my videos with more flexibility in editing, good L lenses are more affordable than E mount, digital IS combined with lens IS are far superior to the very mediocre IBIS of the A73.
Finally the X-T3 besides the major drawback of being a cropped APS-C has replaced my A73 (exact same small body size) with better 120fps and also better stills, and brought 4k60 10 bits to my arsenal. As it does not offer any sort of stabilization, it’s on my gimbal most of the time.
I will look at Sony again if they release (one day) the A7S3. I would probably give it a try if it has a 10 bit 422 output and the same specs of the A73 with a better IBIS or Digital IS (that’s the future guys, look at GoPro7 or Osmo Action). That’s it. And this would be already a major step from Sony. Honestly we should not expect 4k60 no crop and 10 bits internally because that’s what they give you on the brand new $10k Sony FX9. Sorry.
In conclusion, based on my personal experience and needs, I would recommend the A73 more for photography oriented work, and the EOS R more for video oriented work. They are both absolute monsters and incredible value.
I hope this helped.
Thanks for this break down. Im reading it 2 years later and damn!! So informative
@@tonykyle thanks for the feedback!
Just to give you an update 2 years later lol, I now have 2 Canon R5 and still have my Eos R that I use as a fixed third camera and "action" camera with a 10-18 Efs. It is still perfectly working and has been 100% reliable in harsh conditions like saltwater, sand, mud, and snow.
I got my first R5 the day it came out, and since then I haven't watched any reviews or TH-cam video on any newer cameras, it's a total endgame for me. I know there has been a lot of controversy about the overheating, I've never had that issue (and I'm half time in South Florida). Still running Ninja Vs for ProRes, and besides a ton of Dji stuff this is all I've been using for almost 2 years now. Never looked back, never looked elsewhere, not even at newer Canon cameras as they keep updating the R5's firmware all the time with new features.
Your AF tests 29 to 30 frames per second on both cameras on medium drive speed !!! Which cameras were you using again ?
Canon:-
With Servo AF enabled (continuous autofocus), Canon claims the EOS R's max burst speed is 5.0 fps, however we didn't test that in the lab. When shooting Dual Pixel RAW files, the camera drops down to Continuous Low mode which is rated at 3.0 fps for standard files and 2.2 fps for Dual Pixel RAW files.
Sony:-
In Continuous Hi+ mode, the Sony A7 III's top burst speed is a claimed 10 frames per second, and that's with continuous AF/AE. In the lab, the A7 III tested very close to that spec, at about 9.9 frames per second with just JPEGs, and about 9.7 frames per second with uncompressed RAW files.
Both cameras after a 3 second burst, canon 6-9 shots, sony 27-29 shots. So even with your test where the sony lost 4 shots you still have 16 more usuable shots compared to the canon.
If you want to do a proper AF test have the model walk 10 feet, take as many shots as possible and then see how many are in focus at the end.
I'm seeing a massive difference in sharpness at 2:42 when you blow the pictures up. The Sony is clearly sharper on the eyes and teeth, yet you say there's no difference?
I don't see a lot of difference but that is how I see it. They are close but the Sony may be a bit sharper. Thanks for the comment!
@@TheSlantedLens Hey, you don't see it then you don't see it. Only yesterday I saw a comparison shot from the a7iii and a Fuji xt3. The Fuji was a far sharper shot, but completely the opposite to my own experience when switching systems from Fuji to get into full frame. Either way though, I always enjoy your videos :D
The sharpness will be down to the lens not camera. The EF 50 1.2 is not a very sharp lens. Now if it was the RF 50 1.2 that might be a different story.
@@domtomas1178 You'r right, but there is RF 85 1.2, Sony is far away from this!
@@domtomas1178 I didn't mention camera body or lens used, I was just commenting on the fact that he's not able to see quite a clear difference in sharpness between the two images. On a side note though, surely the canon lens should be sharp by f2.8!?
I have both. Bought the A7iii as soon as it came out to use as a gimbal camera. But I couldn’t stand the color and low bit rate for 4k. S-log’s range seems great until you go to grade that over-compressed codec. I picked up the EOS R, and now my A7iii is mostly collecting dust. Even the in-camera codec on the EOS R is better to work with, and c-log is so much easier to grade than s-log (IMO). The crop is annoying, but in a few cases, the extra range has also been GREAT to have.
This is how I feel. I prefer using my R than my A73
Let me buy your a73 then.. can’t let it collect too many dust
I don't know if I'm the only one who been noticed this, but these is a heavy campaign on TH-cam trying to make the people think the canon is better like Sony. I use both cameras and sony is way better.
What makes you think there's a 'heavy campaign'? Is Canon paying for it? Do you have any examples or proof?
@@qwe1231 canon is putting a big push on the canon EOS R, almost every creator on TH-cam has done a review on it this past week
@@JesticeBrown " almost every creator on TH-cam has done a review on it" Oh come on, don't go overboard like that. Moreover, we always see campaigns and product demos/loans for all the major products, including Sony, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic and Fuji. Finally, in order to " to make the people think the canon is better" the videos would have to be (a) explicitly favoring Canon and (b) doing so when the people making the video otherwise wouldn't have made the recommendation. Here we see Jay giving some points to each camera, saying he'd probably go Canon... but might change his mind. If Canon paid him off he's a pretty bad shill.
@@qwe1231 just look the internet, in special TH-cam, just look.
It is simple. People's even compared this camera to a red camera, this is ridiculous
@@MelvinDlaCruz Sorry "look at the internet" isn't a convincing answer to me.
EOS R has better AF? Shooting at 3fps vs 10fps on Sony? They're not even close.
That was the least professional test of them all. These testers forget to check what firmware they're using, and also probably seen more comprehensive tests with a model turning around and moving in and out of frame.
To be honest, EOS R might be faster in single shoot and smoother in Video; however, Sony Eye AF is still far ahead Canon.
@@jenghawyau7206 All I'm saying is that the A7iii and the A9 are different cameras with the updates and without them, so that information should be included in any review. I believe that the EOS R also has updates that make a difference.
Amit Zinman and you are completely right about that man! I agree with you 100%
Yes, EOS R is better for sure. I've used both and bought the EOS R
“i can’t stand the crop factor on the R” and then at the end of the video “i think i learn to live with the crop factor” okay, so anyways i bought the A7III and i tried the Canon EOS R , sony misses on auto white balance a little bit but not a huge issue. canons touch-bar is horrible. sony’s a bit small in the hands, and canon is a little confusing in terms of where the buttons are, but i’m sure you’d get used to it where sony has buttons very reasonable, and intuitive (also has 4 custom buttons). i’d say try both of these cameras for a little , and make your choosing
That is a great assessment and great advice.
You need to investigate what Canon calls "focus points." They are not focus sensors. It is software manipulation the "focus points"
are not true phase detection or contrast detection sensors.
Thanks for the review. Trying to make this very decision now. Two amazing cameras each with their own flaws. 4K is the hype everyone is pushing yet only see 1080p posted everywhere so that is no issue for me. If the a7iii had a flip out lcd like the canon then it would be so much easier for me to consider. Having canon glass for 20+ years also is an issue unless I want to spring for all new. At least if I stay Canon I can convert slowly to R glass ifs I so desire. Leaning to the R.
It's not just about what you publish in, it's about the flexibility it gives you to zoom in post and still be able to have 1080 when you publish.
I know right
Sony A7III is a beast 🙏😍❤️👏
I am new to Sony, coming from several years of Canon cameras. My A73 is so damn busy with menu options. I got it for better dynamic range and 4k shooting (things CANON is holding out on, cause they are focused on the semi-pro consumers). I am really not liking this camera. It's like IOS to Android (which I use both). I don't feel like I should have to spend forever setting up menus and turning stuff on to get a damn photo. Feels counter productive. Nikon and Canon out of the box is pretty damn straight forward. Even Fuji is. ..Anyways, thanks for the video. Now I gotta look up how to setup eye detection. Sheesh.
Arguably the R is a better youtube camera. I think for stills I'd go A7III all day (and I did, prior to the release of the R). Now I'm a little bit jealous of the 1080 video quality, but it think I'd get very frustrated with how the R works functionally. Lack of customizable buttons, that dumb touch scroll wheel, 4k crop etc.
On the first side by side comparison I can clearly see the Sony is not only a lot sharper the Sony also shows real skin structure where the Canon gives a mushy yellow-ish smeary cheap makeup look like on a model's face who is standing in harsh sunlight at 100 degrees Fahrenheit straight for an hour.
Yeah, I noticed that difference too …. it was very obvious.
That is down to the choice of lenses though. An old classic Canon lens vs new Sony glass isn't a fair comparison.
@@Miketz I fully agree with you on that. It's a pity the comparison wasn't based on equal rules. I too wish it was made with the 50mm f1.2 RF version instead.
Any half-decent photographer should be able to see that one image was sharper than the other and know why that was the case, and yet they were determined to be "the same" and then quickly moved on to the next test.
The cynical among us could make a legitimate claim that he is merely encouraging discussion and comments, which is disappointing.
I had worse experience with autofocus on the R than you. But is effective 3fps with continuous af on the R going to limit you? A7iii can do 10fps with CAF tracking.
In compressed raw
@@TomasRamoska and no one will tell the difference
@@rattoh if no one can tell difference why they even included uncompressed raw.
@@TomasRamoska because people asked for it
@@TomasRamoska There have been LOTS of tests between compressed and uncompressed and guess what? The difference is insignificant. I'd rather have 10FPS of compressed than 3FPS uncompressed.
Why not say I am buying the r because I already have cannon glass? Oh that's right you want the views and drama..
Thank you very much! This was extremely helpful - I’ve been debating between the two models for ages and your video really helped me make my decision!
Annoying intro 😂
An old man showing off to the model trying to be cool..OK BOOMER LOL
Too much advertisement in beginning lol
I’m lost
😅😂😂😂
Paul Maka-Kea 😂😂😂
He’s making those 2 min intro like is a Disney Movie 😂😂
Just to say I use Canon 600d (two of them) and a Samsung NX11 - which I will use until they pack in :-)...so no bias from me. Sony was way better than the Canon. I opened 2 tabs in my browser to make detailed comparisons and the Canon was softer...far more detail from the Sony - this could be the glass (likely?!) and the dynamic range, especially the highlight comparison... definitely the Sony was better. The colours are so similar, plus editing will often change all of that, It all boils down to what glass and system you are coming from and are invested in...I suppose.
I wonder if in doing testing the cameras used are not identified until the end and are given a letter - Camera A and Camera B and some images are in B&W to hide the colour difference...just an idea but good to see the comparison. Keep up the good work.
I agree the Sony looked to have significantly more detail in this video! It was very obvious to me! I shoot with a 550d. It's time for an upgrade and I would go Sony, however, I am invested with lenses, therefore making the EOS R a more sensible upgrade as you say. Hopefully my Tamron A007 24-70 plays well with the R.
@@V8Alien I agree. I'll wait until my cameras pack in but it's good to keep up with what developments are being made :-)
50 L lens is beautiful, but is NOT particularly sharp. 50L more of an artistic lens. Use a 35mm f/1.4L II or any of several other canon lenses for ultimate sharpness.
re: sony being warmer. I have done some tests with my 5D-ii and a7Riii and have found the lenses had more effect on the colour balance than the sensor. (But having said that, the Canon produced warmer tones than the Sony when using the same lens)
The fact that the Canon was producing consistantly warmer images in your dynamic range tests suggests that the apparent warmth of the Sony image was a quirk of the location and lighting for that shot.
As for 'image quality', the Sony looks sharper than the Canon, but that probably comes down to the lenses used, I would put money on things being a lot different if you'd used an RF mount lens. (as much as I love my 50/1.2, it is a bit old and shouldn't really be compared to the new wave of super-sharp glass)
Yes I agree that glass will have an effect on color balance more than the sensor. But it also depends on the software in the camera. If you compare 5d ii, 5d iii, and 5d iv I'm sure under different lighting each camera will render color differently, some might be warmer and some cooler. I dont think it will always be consistent 100%.
So it is possible for Sony camera to reproduce warmer tones than a Canon under certain lighting conditions. And its possible for a Canon camera to reproduce warmer tones than a Sony under different lighting conditions.
The C200 is a 1.55x crop so 1.7 probably won't be that hard to get used to. That said, I'm a biased Canon user.
Me too but I might have an affair with black magic pocket camera.
@@d.edwardsfreelanceeditorvi4212 I might get the BMPCC6k EF to replace my C100
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Personally, I like having crop. Considering I don't have a 70-200. Having the crop helps haha. I don't really see different in crop or no crop when it comes to video quality
Theres a tons of canon eosr vs a7iii. But so few comparing against the nikon z6. I really do think the z6/z7 has enough to be up against these 2.
No
you'll see a difference with capture one vs lightroom on RAW of both
I will try that today. I do love capture one but have just always used camera raw. Thanks!
Interesting stuff. I was wondering about something. I never underexpose 5 stops and push it. What I do quite often is expose for the highlights and push the shadows. Or maybe pull back the highlights and raise the shadows. I do a lot of outdoor shooting where I can not use a flash or a tripod. A test like that (with different ISO's) would possibly be more interesting.Which camera immage woujld hold up better in a situation like that? Great intro by the way!
The sony a7iii
@@reckerproduction9468 tnx. Bought the R5 lol
@@StevenScholten Please are You able to edit the video footage?
Are You able to edit the video from the r5?, and any over heating?
@@StevenScholten You welcome Sir
@9:05 you said that on 20 frames you had none out of focus.. but in seems to me that sony focus were sharper, more detailed.. (even if I've a "canon heart" )
Thank god I saw this comment! I thought I had to get an eye test. Why is no one else talking about this?
Cmon man..what are you seeing Iam not? in low light the A73 spanks canons sensor . Iso 3200-6400 the Sony was cleaner.. also the Sony has more detail hands down🤦🏻♂️
What you found is why I have an EOS R body and an A7III body. Sold my dSLR bodies and in process of buying lenses for both systems and trying not to overlap much. I found similar. Overexposing a problem for Canon EOS R. Buying primes for Sony and zooms for Canon. Do have to expose for highlights more with Canon as well as bracket more.
Wow you are all in with both systems. Good Luck
When was the last time you had your prescription renewed? The A7III looked FAR better in that first comparison.
Maybe its time. Thanks
Which is better for filmmaking
Great work. Would suggest to do some RF lenses for the comparison.
Yes, that is the native glass and should be looked at. I think you will need to upgrade if you're going to go with the R.
I’m really loving the image/colors used to shoot this video! Just like the look, for whatever reason. If you don’t mind (or if anyone else happens to know, since I’ve never see his videos before this one), what camera is being used to shoot this video? Really appreciate it! Thanks!
We usually use the Canon C200 for filming.
The lady looks disturbed and concerned, watching him move back and forth 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for watching and keep on clickin!
any way what is the best camera for wedding video & photo shoot.
I am new to photography, can you explain to me why it matters if one camera is betterthan the other when the exposure is incorrect? What does that demonstrate about the camera?
Not sure what you are referring to. Can you share a time stamp?
Sony A7III all the way - nothing bias here... at all ;) *cough... Sony...cough*
Sony is for people who want to make money with their camera
Why @the slanted lens is BIASED in his comparisons, and why he always wants to bash SONY: at 4:28, you see how he is not stating the obvious he is saying "Just a little bit of colors shift on her face" ... REALLY? just a bit ?? how about her shirt and pants ? Look at those weird red lines and noise. Those red lines makes the image unusable.
at 2:49. You're comparing 30MP sensor vs 24MP sensor and you say you don't see tons of difference? There are clear and obvious differences. First, look at her cheeks, on the canon it has yellowish/greenish color while the Sony looks a bit more neutral. Then look at the overall image specially at her eyes, the 24MP sensor is quite sharper. Why not admit that?
Also when you compare the shots of her walking towards the camera. You're comparing 11 FPS vs 5 or 6 FPS? If Canon could shoot the same amount as Sony, we might be able to see quite a few out of focus. You're comparing 30 photos vs 15 for example, if 3 out of 30 out of focus, you still have 27 good focused images. On the canon, you have 15 only even if they are all in focus. See the difference?
Cool
Ony for photography a7ii/RP/R who is better.I have budget issue. Now using 6d so i can use this lens on R series. Please suggest me.
The Canon R would be my choice between those 3 cameras.
please answer, choose eos r + rf 35mm f1.8 macro or Sony a7iii + fe 35mm f2.8, Truman for the answer
Maybe wait later this year for the A7s3 (after the A92). It should have 4K 60p and have10 bit output. Maybe other improved video features over the A73.
Would a could a should a
But then u won’t have good PHOTO camera. If you want both photo and video, the EOS R or A7III are a better balance.
"It's gotta be 4K nowadays. Nobody wants to shoot anything that isn't 4K." Uploads video in 1080p. The sooner bloggers stop obsessing over 4K, the better.
FloatingOnAZephyr yes i agree about the vloggers, but recording in 4k and uploading in 1080p still has some big advantages
@@guusverschuuren8495 Actually, recording in 1080p and uploading in 4k gives you the best of both worlds. Less storage needed, high quality videos on youtube. A 1080p upload looks meh on youtube, even if it was recorded in 4k. But a video recorded in 1080p, exported in 4k and uploaded in 4k looks great. It's the youtube codecs...
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FloatingOnAZephyr
Better to say nothing about things you know little about and have people think you are an idiot then to start typing about things you know little about and remove all doubt that you are.
There are huge advantages to shooting in 4K even if you are uploading at 1080. Lots of people prefer to shoot in for 4K for those advantages, many aren't even bloggers. People will not stop obsessing over it until 8k comes out and becomes the norm.
The only company not putting 4K in its cameras is the one that stays years behind the others.
Canon, every 3-4 years they come out with a new 3-4 year old camera.
@@guusverschuuren8495 Other than cropping headroom in post, I'm not sure it does. A good 2K is better than a bad 4K all day long. Crop isn't unimportant, of course, but it's a high price to pay in terms of storage and post.
I don't know if I agree with this. I watch all my TH-cam at 1080p, largely because I use Safari and VP9 content doesn't go above 1080p in Safari. I've opened the same video Chrome in the past and swiped between the 4K and 1080p and the difference is extremely small. That was with MKBHD videos, shot on a RED. It feels like an internet myth that uploading 1080p upscaled to 4K helps. I only upload to Vimeo, so I could be wrong.
Definetely Sony!
Canon looks better. Hair is looking very cool btw. Thanks for the honest choice at the end of your video. Your content always functionally useful to consumer
i have a problem, i have canon eosr and tamron 24-70mm (the good one) and it starts making the sound, flicker and have problem time to time with focucing, it like freece.
You should contact Tamron. It sounds like the lens maintenance.
Was a Canon shooter for years and switched to the Sony A7iii last fall and love it!! Both cameras are great but the Sony feels more intuitive to me. Go for what feels most natural to you.
Stop frightening your model. THat never ends well.
Because of autofocus you‘re buying the EOS R? 😂 what a joke... Sony‘s autofocus is so much better in both photo and video!
The A7 III has better image quality as well, even in all your samples.
Daniel Schmidt I have an a7riii and the EOS R. I completely disagree the eos r focus is much better. Sony shows the eye in focus but you find out it’s not even though the box is on the eye. The canon she’s the face is in focus and it’s nearly perfect every time the hit rate is better on the eos r. The iq of the eos r with r lenses is pretty close to the a7riii. The colour on the Canon blows the Sony out of the water.
Am I the only one who caught him saying “256,000” instead of 25,600? On the iso test? Roughly 8min in??
Dang, I do that all of the time. I don't know why. I have high aspirations for the ISO settings on cameras. And I'm also not great at math!
The Slanted Lens lol, it is all good!! My wife has the same issues with numbers!! Hey, I have a video request I know so many people would enjoy! So many can’t decide weather to get a full frame or crop sensor camera. Could you do a video comparing the a7III & the a6600? A video with the iso tests, and over/under exposures? You know, a normal video just comparing those 2?
I believe you should do a retake with the RF lenses for Canon. the EF 50 1.2, I own one and it is by far the fastest accurate lenses I had, but it is a pro level, meaning it doesn't forgive your mistakes. Danielle is very pretty. she should start her own channel. She would do way better
Sir you are absolutely mistaken. I own the EOS R and love shooting it. I also own the Sony a7 III and I love shooting it as well.
@@TheSlantedLens back in 2004 I bought my first mirrorless Sony. Zeiss glass, excellent pics. I do admire Sony. I was curious if you had a Z7 and what is your opinion on that camera
Guys the video is great the comparation very good with some flaws but great over all.
Canon EOS R is only for those having Canon lenses. For others it is very few R lenses and it is stupid to start buying EF lenses in 2019 when you have no intention to buy a Canon DSLR.
I think you should wait and see what else Canon has coming out, unless you have money to burn.
At 2:41 the Sony looked much sharper than the Canon, even with Canon's higher megapixels. Maybe the focus was off, or the Sony's AA filter is weaker?
The Canon EF 50mm 1.2 is a pretty soft lens, even stopped down to 2.8
I gave up after 50 seconds.
Go with the one you can afford : )
Same price.
The EOS R is the way to go! Good choice, its one of those cameras thats more than the spec sheet without a doubt
What camera did you use to make this video?
If you were comparing, for example GH5 and Sony A7III in video, would u use the same focal length? If so, wouldn’t you complain about the crop on the 5H5? Instead, like in real life, wouldn’t you pick the focal length that gives you the framing you want? For example, compare A7III at 50mm with EOS R at 24mm (I know not exact equivalent). I always pick the lens that gives the framing I want. I have from 10mm to 200mm lenses for the EOS R, so the crop doesn’t really matter.
Buy canon because specs and numbers aren't everything.
Akhyar Rayhka and if you like old tech.
what color profile did you use for the R? i found that when i was shooting with my 5d, the adobe neutral was my favorite, but with the R, i find i'm more likely to work with Camera Faithful.
I use the RIII but don’t have those AF problem, even with higher frame rates. To tell people that the more AF points are a reason for switching, is close to bullshit, because those numbers are only marketing.
By the way, the colors of the Canon look terrible at the headshot.
correction.....its not 256 thousand. 8:06
The Canon has one card slot and cannot shoot multiple frames in the silent mode so that has stopped me from buying the R and I own all Canon glass. For mirrorless I had been using the Fuji XT-2 system and I was waiting from the R to come out. I was looking at the Sony a9 system too. I was very disappointed with the R with it only having one cad slot. Why did Canon do that? I have had a 2 shoots now where my CF card was corrupted and I learned my lesson that I will never shoot with just one card in the camera.
@@dphotos007 Totally agree with you. Shot canon for over 30 years (ae-1 to 5diii) and kept putting off going mirrorless until canon came out with one. After years of putting off sonys the pos R finally came out. What a HUGE disappointment it was to shoot. Sent it back before the 30 days were up at B&H and bought the a7iii even though I had tons of canon gear. Love the a7iii and REALLY loved the a9. Hope to get an a9 new when the a92 comes out.
Rubi Doo I have been shooting professionally since 1980 and I was using the Canon AE-1 system back when I started. I have been very loyal to the Canon brand and I was one of the first CPS members. I love the CPS program. They did that right but Canon has lost a good long time customer in me. I have bought all the high end primes and zooms with three systems. The AE-I, EOS film and started my digital life with Canon with the 1DS Mark ll. The body alone cost $8000.00 on that camera. Now I have Canon 5D Mark lll bodies and have waited patiently for this pro Canon mirrorless camera to come out and this was the best they could do? Have only one card slot was the big message to me to pass on this camera now I can’t wait any longer. I have had my shutters replace twice and I am close to 1,000,000 shutter counts in both bodies. The electronic mother boards are starting to do funky things with both Cameras and I will not replace any more parts. I need new cameras and will have to take a bath on the lenses when I sell them. My Canon cameras will now become paper weights.
The Sony looks consistently sharper at like 6:55 and 2:50. Not that it would make a huge difference in the quality of your photos.
i have both :) equally amazing. bought eos r just for RF lenses and sony bc the tech
Maui Kao planning on doing the same! 🙏🏻I currently have the a7iii but I like the EOR body!
@@ll-notme-ll6629 yah man it's worth. just hella expensive for the RF lenses. i only have the 50mm
I’m thinking of doing the same but I’m going to wait for better EOS R body.
@@sniperv yah probably worth the wait. hopefully ha.
@@MauiKao
I'm confused which one to buy: R vs A7iii
I'm currently having Nikon D5300 with 18-55 kit and 50mm f1.8 prime lenses
Now I wanna switch and upgrade
I'm just a casual photographer, interested more in taking portraits and landscapes
Video is not a priority for me
I'm lazy to postprocess
I won't buy costly lenses
I may buy samyang MF lenses for portraits, or cheaper 85 or 135 mm AF lenses
Samyang lens for landscape
I'm never gonna shoot 4k, so crop factor is no issue to me
Image quality and colours are my priority
And the system that is easier to handle is my way to go
Please let me know what to buy: R vs A7iii
(I have soft corner for Canon, but f**k that soft corner)
Please compare the a7c and canon eos r 🙏🏻 i trust you
Thanks for watching! It's on our list.
The effort and commitment on that intro, bravo.
Thanks, it was a bit silly. I love doing this stuff. Have a great day!
I love the intro, that's when i hit like
Really, you don't see a ton of difference between the left and right at 2:49? There is a world of difference in sharpness, can't believe this isn't mentioned? Obviously that is due to the res but as this is about the sensor it is after all a huge part of it.
Thanks for watching and keep on clickin!
@@TheSlantedLens Oi, someone is butthurt for pointing out a lack of skill.
Which lens adapter did you use?
We used Canon's proprietary lens adapter on the Canon and we did not use one on the Sony.
Any info of whether you’re using raw and developing with which program/profile?
I am shooting raw on all tests except the autofocus. I process in camera raw and make very few adjustments. I don't play with the sharpness or color. They are processed as a clean raw image.
The Slanted Lens in Lightroom? Adobe color profile? Thank you for your reply!
Great video, J.P. Do you think the Canon crop factor issue will ever be resolved with a future firmware update?
Never. Canon rarely adds features via firmware, and I think that's a hardware limitation.
I come from the future ... and I can tell you that Canon won't update this. Also, because it is something concerning hardware.😎
Who shoots at -4 or -5 ev ? If they do , they should leave photography and start selling eyeglasses....
souvik saha hahah!
I wish I could get such good photos at 256,000 ISO.
Sony is definitly sharper, you can tell at 2:40. Sharper eyes, lips, skin, and teeth. How could you not see that big difference? In the walking test, the models eyes weren't fully in focus on the EOS R. Sony missed a few frames, but was more consistant. I think Sony is more reliable between the two.
It reinforced that i will upgrade to EOS R. Thanks.
That's 26,500 thousand not 256,000 thousand right? :) great video and info
You are so right. My mistake. That would be incredible, bit not so.
@@TheSlantedLens :)
Only reason to pick the Canon is if you are a fanboy happy to pay for an inferior camera because it has a Canon label
What a compelling point you made. wow... -_-
EOS R is an amazging camera with a few limitations
Sony a7iii custom buttons are soo good
Channel must have been sponsored by Canon since the last time they ran a test.
Over 30 years of shooting canon starting with a AE-1 and ending with the 5diii. Tried a POS R to replace the 5diii for almost a month. What a turd of camera. Crap ergo, senseless bar on the top, no joystick, single slot, eye AF is a total joke and a AF system that has a hard time hitting every shot at a GLACIAL 3fps. a7iii is a better body in every single way.
a7iii has better AF, BY FAR. Even at higher speed (9fps vs 3fps) it has a better hit rate
a7iii has a better sensor that has better DR .
a7iii has eye af that actually works and animal eye af that is fn amazing. It will take canon YEARS to catch up to sonys af system.
Even your in test show the a7iii to be sharper, yet your view on that is slanted towards the canon for some reason.
The only person that should be taking the POS R over the a7iii would be somebody that has tons of canon glass and wants to hope that canon will make a good mirrorless camera in the next decade.
After a weekend with a rented a7iii I sent the POS R back to B&H and bought a a7iii. Slowly sold off most all the canon lenses and buying native mount sony's. Dont regret it for a minute.
i can't understand people whoi are pay too much attention for ISO 6400 or higher. Any camera can't do beautiful clean image at this ISO and higher lol. Its just ridiculous how high ISO overrated
It does have it's place for things like event photography and night time shoots.
would have loved to see a colorgrade from a log on both camera's to see when the sky starts to show banding. Otherwise great video, i'm split between both of these aswell.
Great test. I don't love log on these cameras but it would be a great test. Thansk
Whatever that model is getting paid its not enough.
Interesting decision, from my viewpoint the Sony pretty much smoked the Canon across the board.
I own a7riii, x-t3 and x-h1 but still got the eosr to match my c200!
Its what I need to do. I love the camera in so many ways just not the crop in video. Maybe its time for a IDX mirroless.
The Slanted Lens it will come but it’ll be 7k.... eosr is a great b-cam if considered a great 1080p 10bit camera. A lot cheaper than a c100 and it’s great for photos.
I would be interested to know how you feel about the xh1 compared to the two full frames.
AcidicDelusion the x-h1 is great but the main difference is that it doesn’t have the look of full frame. But the colors or definitely better than Sony. But canon has best if both worlds... but xh1 is better in drive speed. They all have good points.
@@artwerkmedia8616 cheers for the reply. I'm trying to figure out whether to stick with Fuji (I have an xt2) or go FF, eosR is looking good right now.
Last time they made the Tamron 28-75 lens look better than the GM 24-70 , why do I keep coming up these fake tests...!?
Nothing fake about our tests. Thanks for watching.
Because , the tamron 28-75 really is great, go rent one and see
@@reckerproduction9468 I own both
the 24-70 GM and the Tamy as well! Im really surprised how good the Tamron keeps up with the "big boy* but the overall rendering and the bokeh is just superior when I compare those 2 !
@@afrank3029 oh ok
Heya JP, adapting lenses is never great, but I will say that I have noticed the same EF Lens behaves completely differently on my a73/a7r3 depending on what adapter I use. MC-11 is simple and works very nicely with Sigma lenses, but the MetaBones has the basic / advanced switch that can also really change the behavior., so maybe worth messing with that before putting your cash down on the barrel for either body. I have some lenses that are great on one adapter and terrible on the other. I have to admit I got frustrated with having to think about mode/adapter to use and am leaving my Canon glass at home most of the time.
I am sure adapting EF lenses to RF body is a lot better than the third party shenanigans I have dealt with, but I imagine you will end up native RF or FE mount in a year or two anyway.
the Sony at +5 had way more detail
Thank you.
The photo in canon look bigger .. great vedio I have both camera 📷 and I like the canon more
Absolutely! :)
Of course you have both....gotta love butthurt fanboys
Thank you that was very informative. I would like to see a similar comparison with the Nikon Z6.
This is not even a question. The Sony is a mature product vastly superior to this 1st Gen Canon camera. Only blind fanboys will pick the Canon over the Sony
I am fed up with ff so I won’t buy either.
Neither - is the correct answer
The Nikon Z6 is much much better than the Canon EOS R
Łukasz Solarek 🤔
Just compare the specification.
60 frames per second with full HD Canon is a joke. Nikon - 120 frames per second full hd.
12 serial images Nikon.
Canon - 8.
+ Nikon lenses are sharper.
And Canon is much more expensive.
Besides, I have a Nikon Z6 and does the job
You never tested the EOS R, so shut up biased Nikon User.
@@geko9425 I tested Nikon Z6, Sony A7iii, Canon EOS R and Lumix GH5s, so go and eat snickers.
Love my eos r!
Get a Canon R with RF 85 1,2 lens, Sony is far behind!
Canon color-science :)
It is good. There is no doubt.
Although the majority liked sony’s color more in a blind test when chelsea and tony northrup tested it
Conceptx9 Sony‘s color science is better than Canon’s in the current models.
I prefer the red skin tone on Sony.
color science does't matter when you're shooting raw
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both cameras are still good devices...
are both from japan or china...
but both cameras are still problem with blur focus and blur depth of field
Wouldn’t trade my a7iii for anything but a a7iiii
Can't wait for that announcement. Go Sony
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What about now, after the new Sony was announced today?
Spec wise sony ( esp eye af ) , ergonomics and result canon
Ergonomics canon? Have you shot the pos R? Shot canon over 30 years and I found the R to be even worse then Sony's (which I didnt like either). The pos R has HORRIBLE button placement, that stupid swipe pad up top, no joystick and a rear touchscreen the only works if you are right eye dominant . The thing was trash to shoot.
Canon saw all the press sony was getting for having bad ergo and was like "hold my beer, we can beat that"
Because even bad press is good press.
Rubi Doo the buttons doesn’t bother me , but yeah do miss the joystick ... its kinda stupid removing it ....