Here's What Liquid Metal Did To A PS4 Pro After 3 Years

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ม.ค. 2022
  • Just over three years ago I changed out the thermal compound inside the PS4 Pro for liquid metal, which is what Sony used for the PS5. Today I wanted to open it back up and see how the liquid metal is holding up years later.
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  • @SaccoBelmonte
    @SaccoBelmonte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +671

    To clean "dried out" LM you apply a fresh drop of LM and that will liquify it again. Allowing you to remove it easily with cotton, If you use Alcohol it makes a reaction and the LM goes black.

    • @omariwilliams777
      @omariwilliams777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      😈

    • @JerameatC
      @JerameatC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Guys get this message as visible as possible.

    • @tkermi
      @tkermi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But LM shouldn't really dry out if the metals/surfaces are designed to it (inert) - right?

    • @Kazpper88
      @Kazpper88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      YOU SOUND LIKE THE DIRECTOR OF TERMINATOR 2 THE BEST TERMINATOR MOVIE LOL

    • @SaccoBelmonte
      @SaccoBelmonte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tkermi That's correct.

  • @RoboAddy
    @RoboAddy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Quick tip to avoid stripping threads: Screw in REVERSE while applying light pressure until you feel the threads "click", then screw FORWARDS and your threads will be perfectly aligned.
    I use this for everything, even drink bottle lids lol.

    • @TheRandomname951
      @TheRandomname951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      People think I’m crazy doing that but it works perfect

    • @ThePokestopPapi
      @ThePokestopPapi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is genius

    • @JL-cn1qi
      @JL-cn1qi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also always use the screw that came from that hole. Even if its 10 identical screws. Put the same ones back from where they came from. But yeah, slightly backwards till you hear, feel it getting into its original thread and then put it in. Also always put in your screws in an X fashion. Don't start going round. Put one in top left, then bottom right. Top right, bottom left and so on. Tighten them a bit but not fully. Then go in the same X, alternation pattern again when tighening them down propperly secure. This goes from putting screws in a playstation to bolts when changing a wheel on your car.

    • @WavyJayZ
      @WavyJayZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know for a fact drinking bottles help. You discover this pro tip lol. Lines up every time..

    • @werlder
      @werlder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've been doing this without really knowing I was doing it lol

  • @Raflikesmovies
    @Raflikesmovies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    As a materials scientist, I would like everyone to understand that the liquid metal did not "dry out" in the usual sense. It reacted with the metal of the heat sink (primarily, from the look of it. The surface of the chip looks basically ok) and what you see on the chip is a residual solid metal of a new composition. It will not be possible to remove the reacted material from the heat sink, as this is incorporated into the heat sink and is in fact an alloy of the heat sink metal and the liquid metal. It may still be possible to use another type of thermal paste to bridge the air gap. This should not be a problem with the PS5 system as it was designed with compatible materials or coatings to enable the use of a liquid metal for thermal contact.
    One concern would be that as this reaction takes place the thermal contact should/could have been greatly reduced. It is a good thing that this PS4 wasn't used that much.

    • @FasuloA
      @FasuloA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Silly question then - so I should not panic that my de-lidded Intel processor may be “dried out” underneath the IHS?
      I’ve always heard that liquid metal was a bad idea to use on copper. Perhaps this is why.

    • @EvanOfTheDarkness
      @EvanOfTheDarkness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@FasuloA Most quality heatsinks are nickel plated, and that should protect the copper from reacting (alloying) with the liquid metal.
      If you had just a bare copper heatsink, I'd suggest investing in a better quality heatsink, after all what's the point of using a cheap heatsink with liquid metal?

    • @infopackrat
      @infopackrat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So can liquid metal be used then? Would a second application work since the reaction has already taken place?

    • @infopackrat
      @infopackrat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could one nickel plate the copper? Electroplating isn't that complicated

    • @EvanOfTheDarkness
      @EvanOfTheDarkness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@infopackrat In theory yes, you could plate the copper, but just buying one already nickel plated is way easier (and probably cheaper).
      A second application will probably last longer, but you can tell that the reacted layer is not fully protective, the gallium in the compound will slowly diffuse into the copper and react with it over time.

  • @disco7379
    @disco7379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I bought a used PS4 about 4 years ago and the prices are roughly the same or even more in some cases.

  • @Donald_Allan
    @Donald_Allan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I thought about getting a PS4 Pro when I had my PS4 slim. I'm glad that I never got the PS4 Pro in the end and was happy to wait until I was able to get a PS5 late last year. It's great being able to access the PS4 Pro versions of the PS4 games that I own and the difference in picture quality between between what I can see whilst playing games on my PS4 compared to the PS4 slim I used to own is night and day. The boosted framerates for certain titles is also an added bonus.

    • @ThaexakaMavro
      @ThaexakaMavro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ps4 pro is miles ahead of the slim

    • @Donald_Allan
      @Donald_Allan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThaexakaMavro I can imagine. I have a PS5 now so at least I get to access all the features that the PS4 Pro versions of the games had that I couldn't experience on the PS4 slim that I owned and I can also get to play PS5 games too.

    • @TheOne0816
      @TheOne0816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I still have my slim going on for 5 years now and don't have any intention of upgrading to a pro. It's just not worth it for me. I mostly have all my PS4 library on PC for that added resolution and FPS boost.

    • @ThaexakaMavro
      @ThaexakaMavro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheOne0816 of course there's no reason anymore to buy a ps4 pro just get a ps5 lol

    • @TheOne0816
      @TheOne0816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ThaexakaMavro Not worth it to me neither for the time being.

  • @BowsetteKoopa
    @BowsetteKoopa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I remember when you put liquid metal in this thing! Can't wait to see how it turned out. I actually didn't think there'd be a follow up video lol

  • @T00muchF00Dchannel
    @T00muchF00Dchannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the video I’ve been waiting for! I changed my compound because of your first video!

  • @cH1n0eL
    @cH1n0eL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Same thing happened to the IHS of my 3950X when I put liquid metal on it a year ago. After cleaning it as much as I could, I noticed that the etching of the model etc on the IHS was gone.

  • @Cetega
    @Cetega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I feel like they made cooling or fan improvements over time, as my late generation PS4 Pro is remarkably quiet. Certainly not the jet engine I've often heard talked about (like my original model base PS4 with certain games, heh).

    • @Dr_Won_Hung_Lo
      @Dr_Won_Hung_Lo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Your PS4 may be simply too new for the fan to be blocked by dust as of yet. This is the issue why other PS4 Pro's are soo loud. Once cleaned of the dust and they're back to whisper quit

    • @zerorig
      @zerorig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​@@Dr_Won_Hung_Lo They did improve the noise in the later PS4 pros. I remember picking up the RDR2 bundle specifically for that reason after a Digital Foundry video about it.

    • @guitarboyjeff
      @guitarboyjeff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Red Dead Online is terrible on a standard PS4. I have the later model Pro and replaced thermal paste and quiet. Not silent but way quieter.

    • @Dr_Won_Hung_Lo
      @Dr_Won_Hung_Lo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@guitarboyjeff I run it on my PS5 now and it runs and looks GREAT!

    • @sizla8837
      @sizla8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gamers often exaggerate about the noise of the PS4 pro

  • @Orain88
    @Orain88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I recently did a full clean and repasting of my launch ps4, I replaced the thermal pads too. It went from sounding like a jet engine on almost every game to being quieter than my gaming laptop under load. I couldn't believe it. Performance didn't seem to change much but at least it isn't struggling to expell heat anymore.

    • @jormungandr8821
      @jormungandr8821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What did you use bro

    • @Orain88
      @Orain88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jormungandr8821 some leftover noctua thermal paste from a recent pc build and thermal grizzly minus pad 8.

  • @n7ghtmare99
    @n7ghtmare99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Liquid metal is pretty fascinating I'll admit that. Going on about the SSD though, I've had a 2TB SSD inside of my PS4 Pro for about three years now, and I could never go back to a mechanical hard drive that's sluggish. Samsung SSDs are definitely worth the money if you have it.

    • @n7ghtmare99
      @n7ghtmare99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@jonathansoko1085 I'm not a kid first of all I'm 22 and you can take that toxicity out of the comments thank you very much.

    • @Cerus98
      @Cerus98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@n7ghtmare99 - No insult meant but 22 is still a kid.

    • @justinchin0
      @justinchin0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Put in an old 500gb ssd I had lying around and it was like night and day! Was gona play around with the jailbreak but ended up selling it for close to msrp!

    • @justinthematrix
      @justinthematrix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same I originally installed mine because people said it ran black desert better but never got around to playing it

    • @MrPoeGhost
      @MrPoeGhost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Cerus98 22 is a grown adult, dafuq you talking about.

  • @andyo1872
    @andyo1872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    From my experience, copper seems to fuse , plated with liquidmetal . It's impossible to remove liquidmetal stain on copper using acetone or alcohol. When I googled about it I found out it is not so good idea to apply liquid metal(Gallium based) on bare aluminum or copper. It seems Copper heatsink would need to be coated with another metal (like nickel)

  • @kickstartavalanche
    @kickstartavalanche 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video Jon, I may find purpose for my pro again since I do not intend to fight for a ps5 as things stand currently! An SSD will be fun to install and feel a decent enough difference

    • @user-nt3ef9fh5f
      @user-nt3ef9fh5f 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do it ! Best Buy sells 1tb SSDs for $80-90 now. It’s worth it and I’ve been doing it since I got my pro

  • @ZeroAnalogy
    @ZeroAnalogy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    So in revisiting this PS4 mod, it became an experiment on the effects of Liquid Metal over time. As you stated, it went well for this instance, but potentially could have been worse.

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If the entire heat sink was aluminum it definitely would've been a lot worse lol

  • @khaz661letsplaysmore5
    @khaz661letsplaysmore5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One of the things I did to cool my ps4 pro was made a custom vent on the area where the fan is(similar to what xbox did with the xbox one and xbox one s) and it did help cool it down by 10+ degrees

    • @jamesgoodman540
      @jamesgoodman540 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you check actual temps via cfw? Console cases are typically designed to have a specific airflow pattern, drilling holes changes airflow characteristics. By modifying the air intake some components will run hotter while others run cooler…

  • @ThatGoth
    @ThatGoth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Liquid metal combines with copper, it didn't dry it became one with the copper and the solid copper became one with the liquid.

  • @HentaiHappy
    @HentaiHappy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right before the PS5 release, say 3-4 months, prices for the PS4 had reached $100, and the PS4 PRO had reached $150. Now with the supply & demand issues, PS4 has reached $200, while PS4 Pro has reached $245-$320 used here in Japan. I'd assume homebrew is going to jack up the prices even further.

  • @Ray__E
    @Ray__E 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's kind of crazy how even a basic PS4 is still going for at least $200 and up on the secondhand market.

    • @Ozhull
      @Ozhull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How is that crazy to you? The same thing happened with the PS4/PS3, Xbox one/Xbox 360

    • @ashb9567
      @ashb9567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I hear you mate. PS3s were dirt cheap around 2017. PS3s were going for between £60 (fat) - £100 (boxed slim units) in the UK (CeX).
      PS4s are going for £190 slim to £300 Pro - it's much more expensive on the second hand market (CeX)

    • @yo_its_gingey5329
      @yo_its_gingey5329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They go for $70-$120 where I am.

  • @lifeb4ai702
    @lifeb4ai702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the main thing i expected from this video was benchmarking, 4 year old liquid metal temps vs stock or fresh regular thermal paste. video is what it is but I don't think that I was the only one anticipating those things.

  • @Dr_Won_Hung_Lo
    @Dr_Won_Hung_Lo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I simply just cleaned my PS4 Pro every few months with duster and a vacuum cleaner to get rid of dust. I never had an issue with the fan being too loud. Also, I kept my PS4 Pro in a well-ventilated area so the heat coming out of the back wasn't blocked.

  • @cynon6
    @cynon6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not sure about other iterations of the ps4, but with the pro it actually has a third USB slot in the back that's a lot more forgiving in space when it comes to chunkier USB drives

  • @detmer87
    @detmer87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did mine in march 2019 (Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal). In January 2022 my PS4 Pro was immediately in airplane mode (fan at full speed) when I loaded in my save game from Horizon Zero Dawn. I knew my cooling was compromised because normaly it stayed two sound levels lower (stock paste is only one level lower). Disassembled my Playstation 4 Pro and it looked just like yours: dry. I sanded it down (only slightly, to make sure the surface is flat) with some sandpaper 1000 grit. Reapplied Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut Liquid Metal and it's nice and quiet again.

  • @Sam-Fisher
    @Sam-Fisher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Happy New Year

  • @genesistem4479
    @genesistem4479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A small trick i did for the LM not to run around i used thermal paste around the edge and in the middle droped the LM giving it no chance to run around worked well and saw a significant drop in operating temp

  • @DEMENTO01
    @DEMENTO01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the timing is so funny, in a few hours i'll receive a ps4 pro my and my partner bought on a second hand website because of the 9.00 jailbreak release, I'm here waiting for the shipping company to deliver it and i see this, amazing!!

  • @chasebarnard5750
    @chasebarnard5750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Copper is strong, but it reacts with aluminum and can deteriorate the other metal. I'm not sure what liquid metal is made of, but maybe try something with neverseize

    • @jsteezus
      @jsteezus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Its usually gallium with a bit of indium and tin added based on the manufactures specifications for longevity, viscosity, etc. it eats through aluminum. Copper is completely safe with it, but it will stain copper over time. So thats what you see on the heatsink, staining, but it doesn’t affect the thermal performance. It will completely eat away aluminum and destroy it though.

  • @slimbroco572
    @slimbroco572 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant believe that one vid was 3 years ago already... Time sure does fly

  • @eathenalexander2836
    @eathenalexander2836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After you've done homebrew and what not ..can u make a video documenting ur use of it and how u been enjoying it

  • @dave4shmups
    @dave4shmups 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Does the PS4 Slim use SATA 2? Or is it just in the original model of the PS4?

  • @Ashen4g
    @Ashen4g 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got delivered my PS5 this morning with Miles and Ratchet bundled, got lucky and found one online here in the UK, been using the Series X and S for a few months, around Christmas I got the feeling a wanted a PS for some of their exclusives like Spidey, love the dual sense and funny looking at both the Series X and Ps5 standing vertically beside each other lol

  • @iHaveTheDocuments
    @iHaveTheDocuments 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how this video is so insanely old that the spring sale was still going on during it's filming. That's crazy

  • @tradeka4206
    @tradeka4206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ps4 is still valuable because it’s hard for people to get the next gen consoles and there are still a lot of cross gen games that are coming out currently. So many games have been delayed that games that started development with the ps4/Xbox one in mind are coming out this year, and they’re gonna be on the old and new consoles. It might not be as good on the ps4, but if you want to play some of these games this is probably the easiest way right now. A lot of people are deciding to pick up a ps4 instead of getting a ps5 so the value has held up really well.

  • @chubbyadler3276
    @chubbyadler3276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Noting the color of the heatsink on the die gives me an idea what may have happened. I keep hearing that liquid metal does not like copper, and that heatsink does look like copper. According to what I've been hearing, if the heatsink was aluminum, the compound would still be liquid.

  • @numberyellow
    @numberyellow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a bit curious as to whether the LM residue will reduce the thermal conductivity of the IHS and Heatsink assembly, at the interface point. even with fresh proper compound, it feels to me like the LM residue would interfere..
    Any thoughts on this? any chance of a followup video?

  • @DubEDoLLarS
    @DubEDoLLarS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I noticed the ssd helping with load times back on the ps3. When the ps4 came out I’d actually zone into instances and be on mic before ps4 users with my ps3. Never bothered with a ssd in the pro but I think I may have to now!

  • @rwdplz1
    @rwdplz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I bought a used one a month ago. I paid right about what they cost new. Took it apart and cleaned out the dust, and applied new Arctic 5 thermal compound and a 1TB SSD. I usually buy a console right at the end of the lifecycle, but they never went on sale and just disappeared from shelves suddenly this time.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because nobody can get the PS5 or Series X and want to at least play some of these new games. And you can for the most part on a PS4 Pro. So why not get one.

    • @Dasaltwarrior
      @Dasaltwarrior 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WllKiedSnake
      Especially since Sony's still releasing their big titles on it atm.
      Otherwise, I'd say go for a Series S. Their availability has stabalized a fair bit and aren't hard to track down anymore at regular retailers.
      Enthusiast are still getting bent over for anything else though

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Dasaltwarrior Yeah! That's at least one good thing Sony are doing. Allowing those who are stuck on last gen to play some of these games. Shame they didn't get to be fully PS5 games. But these last 2 years have proven it was probably for the best Sony made a few of these games cross gen. Yeah! Series S us actually worth getting I think. I didn't used to think this as a a few of the OG Xbox, 360 and One X enhanced games are not enhanced on Series S. But Microsoft have been making these recent Xbox One or Series X games enhanced on Series S thankfully.

    • @DrRhyhm
      @DrRhyhm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just bought one for 200usd

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dasaltwarrior series s has been running everything great so far. Even runs cyberpunk more stable, loll

  • @TheGlintJaw
    @TheGlintJaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I purchased a used PS4 Pro around December of 2020 for around $320 (ik that's too much but the PS5 costs around $700 where I live).
    It's the CUH - 7016b model (stock HDD) and it still works fine. No performance issues, the fan is somewhat quiet and manageable. Ocassionally it's spins up and gets annoyingly loud lol.
    Playing early life cycle/previous gen games like Infamous Second Son, UC4, Lost Legacy: the fan doesn't even spin up. Stays at the same speed that it would when your on the homescreen.
    Playing mid life cycle games like Horizon Zero Dawn, it gets a little loud but I practically can't hear it due to my TV.
    Only a select few late life cycle games stress it's hardware and spin up the fans really loud. Marvel's Spider-Man is an example.
    But it's good enough for me and I'll continue using it this year, with games like HFW, GT7, GOW and many 3rd party titles, I'm gonna hold off on getting the PS5 till 2023. Not really interested in a next gen console due to the price and availability.
    Edit: sorry if this is too long, you don't have to read it.

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No man.... that's actually very reasonable. I'd rather get a ps4 pro tbh.... I currently just share a VCR with my bro and a switch And that's it for modern

  • @roguespartan2854
    @roguespartan2854 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damm, I didn't think you'd actually make a follow up video on this.

  • @chrismorrison5301
    @chrismorrison5301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem with the PS4 cooling is there are two fan variants, one spews dust into a crevice next to the fan and the other spews it directly into the heatsink. The dust builds up overtime and that's why you get PS4's that get very loud. If you are unfortunate enough to get the second fan (like I was) then cleaning it out every now and again (heatsink and all) will completely negate the problem.
    I have pictures of fully caked heatsinks and video clips of a whisper quiet PS4 PRO running God of War in an area that would normally make it fly off.

  • @doublecontralto818
    @doublecontralto818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One specific game? Totally get it - I ended up grabbing a used PS4 Pro off of eBay, threw in an 860 Evo and restored it.... specifically to play Ys IX: Monstrum Nox. I'm a huge fan of the series (it's up there with Zelda and Tales for me) and there and I really really really didn't want to wait another 6-8 months for the PC release to drop when it came out early 2021.
    My plan had been to trade it in towards a PS5 once they became available again but yeah we all know how that turned out. But then again the free titles through PS Plus have also been a really nice thing to have as well

  • @robertwahlstrom
    @robertwahlstrom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I seen some people suggesting thermal padding on the ram modules as well. Not sure if that makes a difference but guess they can probably get somewhat hot as they are GDDR5 modules and know some mini PC:s right now sorta like to have stuff like that on the ram and nvme drive.

  • @JestersDeadUK
    @JestersDeadUK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never EVER would use liquid metal in PC, console or anything else, COMPLETELY unrequired.

  • @MeltyBubs
    @MeltyBubs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This got me thinking... What does this mean for future conservation of the PS5 consoles? Wouldn't it be safe to say that say 5+ years down the line the liquid metal would be insufficient for cooling due to crusting over, so without replacing it properly wouldn't pretty much all ps5's have a sort of death sentence almost like the CMOS issue? Because simply put not everyone will be able to replace their liquid metal. Thank you. Happy new years!

    • @jackobyuk
      @jackobyuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just keep your ps4pro it will outlive the first ps5s, and wait until sony release their second revision of ps5 before you buy.

    • @edwardlafferty8796
      @edwardlafferty8796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liquid metal works better, but often degrades faster. It does indeed mean there is a risk of overheating causing a degradation in performance and failure in a few years. Can't really comment on the risks involved though so it may be a non issue.

    • @Bones_
      @Bones_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well the drying likely die to people using liquid metal in setups not intended for it. The PS5 was designed for liquid metal so it will likely be setup in such a way to prevent or reduce drying

  • @francisdark
    @francisdark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I took the top cover off my ps4 pro and now the fan never revs up. Ive been contemplating drilling fan holes through the cover or cutting a square over the fan and attatching a vent.

  • @karnige5804
    @karnige5804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool PS shirt. I like the faded look. whered you get it from brother

  • @NicholasY21
    @NicholasY21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is one USB port at the back of PS4 Pro which you can use without USB extender

  • @M9_Prime
    @M9_Prime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    So my question is, when the liquid metal is dried, would it not dry in a configuration that allows good heat transfer? Or once it’s dry it loses its efficiency?
    Also I just sold my PS4 (launch day) for $325 with a few old games which boggles my mind.

    • @chance427
      @chance427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Wow. It’s amazing that you were able to get it for roughly $75 less than originally paid for not including the price of the few games

    • @Joelda23
      @Joelda23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the only reason that liquid metal dry was because they never use that ps4.

    • @raj1n501
      @raj1n501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You gonna get a 5?

    • @cH1n0eL
      @cH1n0eL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Joelda23 This is not true, I put it on my PC which I used almost everyday. When I took it apart it looked the same as here.

    • @M9_Prime
      @M9_Prime 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raj1n501 already have a 5

  • @Krakn3Dfx
    @Krakn3Dfx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had a launch Pro that was like an old vacuum 3-4 minutes into starting any game on it, luckily was able to get rid of it when there was a shortage for what I paid, and then I picked up the Red Dead 2 bundle, that one was always pretty quiet up until I sold it right after getting a 5.

  • @xboxnangable
    @xboxnangable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still have my launch PS4 Pro. Packed it away a few months ago after getting the PS5 finally. Might consider modding it one day but for right now my PS3 Mods are covering most of the emulation I want done.

    • @Pruflas-Watts
      @Pruflas-Watts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm in a similar spot. I've got a launch PS4 PRO with 1tb Crucial MX500 SSD in it, played the hell out of it and it's collection dust now. I've been wanting to jailbreak my PS4 PRO for Linux but they still haven't figured out how to take advantage of PS4 PROs additional gpu power.

  • @retrosamurai9062
    @retrosamurai9062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I solved the noise problem on my pro by getting rid of those tiny black pads pressing on the chips and replacing them with thermal grizzly thermal pads that covered each chip completely.

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I imagine sandwiching a sheet between the two metal plates might help cool the RAM chips further.

  • @Epoch615
    @Epoch615 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LM is great for use on nickel plated copper heatspreaders. NOT on copper plated aluminum heatsinks. On pure copper heatsinks the gallium diffuses into the copper leaving behind the indium and tin which both provide poor thermal contact and can cause shorts if they break free due to vibration. Plus, you'll have to reapply regularly to maintain proper thermal contact. With copper plated aluminum, that gallium diffuses through the copper and will attack the aluminum. As time goes on in either case you'll have degrading thermals and a system that will die sooner than if you had just stuck to paste. Do not use LM unless the system was designed for it or your components are made of the proper materials to handle it.

  • @RKZX2
    @RKZX2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i didn't realize the ps4 was released that long ago.. i got my pro about 3 years ago. i just put an 870 EVO in it. it was running so slow. it's nice & quick now. it'll have to do until i can get a digital ps5.

  • @the1deadman543
    @the1deadman543 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im still using a ps4 pro , it's my streaming machine here in 2022!!
    I just repasted it yesterday , with some tm-30 and it's running like a champ. I also have a Samsung 860 evo ssd ..thing is Years old and runs literally brand new still lol

  • @AJ-rm7ie
    @AJ-rm7ie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you get a PS4 Pro invest in an SSD (solid state drive) and change out the stock hard disk drive (HDD). There's plenty of guides on here and on the internet, its very easy to do it by yourself. Don't throw it out, stash it somewhere in case you sell the console later on. It'll improve load times by a good amount nothing miraculous but you'll see 👍

  • @clydefrosch
    @clydefrosch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is dry LM good if you don't separate the die from the heatsink again, or does it not conduct Temps well anymore like normal paste?

  • @mandrews6282
    @mandrews6282 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny. Came here again after your recent vid on a possible design flaw with the PS5 starting to show up when placed vertical, with liquid metal leaking. I think this may explain recent problems with my own launch unit where it’s been overheating and crashing regularly, and even fried the ssd expansion I had placed in it. I play a lot though. I ended up just replacing the unit as I was well beyond warraunty, but I would be curious if this was indeed the issue. It would make sense. And I suspect Sony knows more than they are letting on as we enter out rumored 4th redesign internally with a potential removable disc drive coming up. People had speculated on overheating as a potential reason Sony delayed enabling the ssd expansion for so long, and I’m curious if these are related.

  • @ShakeNbake9106
    @ShakeNbake9106 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a cool shirt with the faded logo where'd you get it?

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now you will get the familiar jet engine sound while gaming under load.

  • @froggy7570
    @froggy7570 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my PS4 Pro! Still an amazing console. I have had mine since 2018 and no hiccups and no T-1000 liquid metal needed.

  • @mikeprince6685
    @mikeprince6685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Next time try putting twisted metal in it 😈

  • @Tjoeb123
    @Tjoeb123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm wondering how you got that apart without removing the PSU and disc drive....

  • @VGHSyntheticOrchestra
    @VGHSyntheticOrchestra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also play on PC mostly. I have my PS4 Pro for Spiderman, Sakura Wars, and Persona 5 Royal. Have a Switch for its exclusives as well.

  • @northencail2099
    @northencail2099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the way you took out the disc hurt my soul man lol

  • @RallzGuitar
    @RallzGuitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hear people talking a lot about ps4 noises and whatnot but I never had any issues honestly. But I did have a marble top in which the console sat on. This could be why I've never had any issues with fan noises and all that

  • @TheBeng88
    @TheBeng88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @spawn wave cool tshirt where did you get it from

  • @ItsGenoHD
    @ItsGenoHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a PC/Xbox gamer, I was drawn to a PS4 for Spider-man, God Of War, and Persona 5. It's a good console.

    • @Level_Eleven
      @Level_Eleven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I recommend trying Bloodborne! Favorite PS4 exclusive by far.

    • @AshtonGodbout
      @AshtonGodbout 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Try Dark Souls 3 if you want to lose your mind

    • @AshtonGodbout
      @AshtonGodbout 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The ps4 is great I've just quit gaming though but kept my ps4, Xbox 360 and 360 slim. Sold off my series x PC monitor and just kept a 32-inch tv gotta upgrade my own life now not just my characters don't want to end up with a dead-end job and no accomplishments cause I was to distracted level up a make-believe game character.

    • @AshtonGodbout
      @AshtonGodbout 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you make a career out of gaming or games and consoles then that's great but in the real world, it's tuff to do so. If youtube wasn't around I bet this dude would be working in a lab or at gamestop still.

    • @AshtonGodbout
      @AshtonGodbout 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No hate, to each their own. We all live different lives and choose different paths and have different opportunities

  • @lethalspizzle
    @lethalspizzle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i hear that the liquid metal changes to some kinda copper alloy and if you dont scrap off the layer by the copper it will not happen again, and stay liquid.

  • @binchillin888
    @binchillin888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember from the spawncast, Evan really wanted to play FF7 Remake.

  • @ryankellar9040
    @ryankellar9040 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn I can't believe it's been 3 years already

  • @Luke-2954
    @Luke-2954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been thinking about changing the Thermal paste and thermal pads on my day 1 1000 series PS4, what Thermal Pads would you recommend and what thickness? I haven't been able to find any info on the Thermal pads

    • @kibowman
      @kibowman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thermal grizzly minus pad 8 1mm thickness
      I've replaced mine with that and now it's way quieter than with the stock pads

    • @Luke-2954
      @Luke-2954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kibowman awesome, I appreciate the input my guy

    • @jamesgoodman540
      @jamesgoodman540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Luke-2954 I would take some digital calipers and measure your existing pads. The thickness could vary between models.

  • @alejandrotobienne584
    @alejandrotobienne584 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think like paste it will have to be replied in the future if you notice temps increase with fan noise.

  • @dragonmk123
    @dragonmk123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not as many have ps5 since scalpers and difficulty finding them out in the wild. With that people are still having to get the ps4 and the demand is high enough still.

    • @WllKiedSnake
      @WllKiedSnake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had to buy mine directly from Sony themselves. They picked a bunch of people out at random who haven't bought a PS5 and you would buy them directly from their PlayStation Store Direct.

  • @acekingsuitedak2777
    @acekingsuitedak2777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't know what why of this means. Love the video

  • @Fuckthis0341
    @Fuckthis0341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought my PS4 Pro 6 mos before PS5 came out. Console shortage was so bad I overpaid above MSRP. But the console shortage has somehow gotten even worse and it seems like I can still sell it used for what I paid for it new. And I still use the PS4 Pro when my main room w PS5 is occupied (albeit rarely). So I am incentivized to hold onto both PS4 Pro & PS5. And this is why there’s a shortage.

  • @leewhite5061
    @leewhite5061 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought you were talking about a metal gear character in the title lol

  • @adapalis
    @adapalis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was here when you originally made the video putting LM in this. I'm pretty sure the copper reacted with the LM, it looks corroded and also like it caused a small reaction and started to fuse the metals. I wouldn't use LM in anything not designed for it, alot of people got excited to start changing their existing TIM when Sony started using LM. LM is not designed for the average user in anyway, and I knew when Sony started using it it would start some ridiculous craze where people ruin their tech. Here we are, luckily he caught this before it got worse...Big mistake and anyone that said they were doing it I would make sure to expressly state it is...
    NOT RECOMMENDED.

    • @gamedad7336
      @gamedad7336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro, just because you say it's bad doesn't mean it is. Recommended, no. But if you watched that video and decided to go the same route your not just some novice at taking things apart. I did it on my ps4 pro and it works just fine. I coated the outside of the apu with clear nail polish just in case there was any leakage. Look, I get that there's a chance you can mess it up, but if done correctly it can have a great effect at keeping the chip cool.

    • @zybch
      @zybch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gamedad7336 He didn't say it was bad. Just that too many idiots were doing it without a second though and without considering the long term implications of using it on materials not expressly designed for LM application.

    • @Epoch615
      @Epoch615 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gamedad7336 Gallium diffuses into copper like it's a sponge. That copper layer on the heatsink is super thin, so once it slips through it starts attacking the heatsink itself.

  • @svan71
    @svan71 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some fine steel wool cleans copper real good

  • @ChrisAzure
    @ChrisAzure 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sad thing for consoles is that Xboxes are limited to SATA 2 and Playstation consoles are connected via USB 3.0 bus to SATA...so, being SATA 3 will only allow to fully saturate the USB 3.0 bus that connects to a SATA converter (Learned about it when fail0verflow talked about the PS4)

  • @Qbin07
    @Qbin07 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the PS4 pretty late in the game, and I’m kind of an older gamer so I like the nostalgia of 8-16 indie titles, so that’s where a lot of my gaming time goes. But as for current (at the time) AAA titles I only have Spider-Man and FF7R. So I like your friend

  • @philipp9413
    @philipp9413 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it help with the cooling if i swap the thermal pads with a drop of thermal paste?

    • @mariogrivicic4932
      @mariogrivicic4932 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should NEVER replace a thermal pad with a thermal paste.

  • @JReed7560
    @JReed7560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My PS4 Pro still sounds like it's going to rocket into orbit. It's so loud I can barely hear my games. I've changed the thermal paste twice (I used the Arctic Blue) and still the same problem. I'm thinking it's the fan maybe.

  • @robinson_carl
    @robinson_carl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    there is a usb port on the back if your stick is too big for the front.

  • @cc75936
    @cc75936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bought an ssd for my ps4 pro yesterday hopefully it will load games slightly faster

  • @erwinvb70
    @erwinvb70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have decent gaming pc (3080 / 5900x / 64GB) but still use my PS4 pro regularly, as you can keep sitting on the couch and switch from Netflix to gaming and back to Netflix again seamlessly.

  • @Pokemonashgreen2
    @Pokemonashgreen2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Spider-man ps4 pro won't turn on and I don't know what I need to replace is it my ac cord pr power supply?

  • @daltanwerre8277
    @daltanwerre8277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why you got to grab that disc like that now if that game if it goes somewhere else it's potentially scratched or someone will scratch it trying to get your fingerprints off

  • @davidboulton3176
    @davidboulton3176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why would you rub that dried metal with a q-tip like that? The sound made me want to eat my own ears!!

  • @amandao6686
    @amandao6686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nickel plating will make prevent the liquid metal from "drying out"

  • @pauls635
    @pauls635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are more then 1 version of the PS4 Pros. The one I have is very quiet, but my friends model is very loud with the fan. You can see the difference as they use a different power cable.

    • @PSNxFTWxRAGOI
      @PSNxFTWxRAGOI 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s the difference in the power cable? Mine has the larger 2 prong but its a different shape at the ps4 outlet. After I cleaned it, it’s super quiet on new games.

  • @noneed4me2n7
    @noneed4me2n7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought both mine used at just above $200, had to shop a bit. One I got about 6 months back the other a couple years. The launch one I paid full price. Would’ve bought a PS5 by now if they had them at retail. Won’t pay scalpers who intentionally manipulate the market. Rather leave them holding them bag when production finally catches up. I mod most my consoles when the reach EOS.

  • @MikeSmith-is3su
    @MikeSmith-is3su 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spawn Wave talking about the ps4 pro like it’s old news. Meanwhile I can’t even find a ps5 😔.

  • @tenryuuyrnet1332
    @tenryuuyrnet1332 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last night I was playing forbidden west and I was farming materials. Well I went to do a manual save and the screen went dark (as it does to transition to the save files) but it stayed dark for like 15-20 seconds and then my ps4 shut down. I've never had that happen. Did it overheat?? I'm currently looking into thermal paste, a new fan. Cooling pads but can someone shed some light on What happend? And what I can do for better temp controll?

  • @DavidsD00MedReport
    @DavidsD00MedReport 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasn't that the liquid metal video you did when your Xbox stole the car and tore ass out of there or something?

  • @maxsquall
    @maxsquall 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The price did not drop only went up since th jb 9.00 couple of weeks... in my country all those with 9.00 or bellow went up twice+ in price in like 2-3 weeks...

  • @bartekz5605
    @bartekz5605 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello and you will see what happens after this time in xbox one x?

  • @KillaMilla0513
    @KillaMilla0513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I only used my ps4 to play exclusives so it never got that much use but the hard drive started making noise around the 300 hour make. I just didn't care to change it

    • @jtree4204
      @jtree4204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you sure it was the HardDrive? I changed out the fan to a brand new one and replaced the thermal paste, sounds quite again like it did out of the box, I play on my PS5 now but ps4 is fun for modding/homebrew games

    • @KillaMilla0513
      @KillaMilla0513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jtree4204 yeah it's definitely the HD I unplug it and the sound stopped. But I do appreciate your input.. I was going to change it out but I was lucky enough to get a ps5

  • @DxWxSycompania
    @DxWxSycompania 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice guns, bro

  • @jessewarren9177
    @jessewarren9177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just am blown away that PS4 pro are selling for near the original price now! Even GameStop as of January 2022 is paying over 300 in credit for them.

  • @rajgill7576
    @rajgill7576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liquid metal is just gallium right or is it some alloy?

  • @maximusretardious4597
    @maximusretardious4597 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes a lot of sense that people are keeping their PS4's mostly because we cant held hold of a PS5 at non-scalper prices