2022 Chevrolet Bolt EUV Test Results | Talking Cars
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- This week we discuss our test results of the 2022 Chevrolet Bolt EUV. We explain what EUV means and talk about how this all-new electric vehicle compares to the original Bolt. Plus, find out why we, and other Bolt owners, have to park the vehicle outside, far away from any buildings. We also answer a question for a skier who’s looking to buy a new car.
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0:00 - Chevrolet Bolt EUV Discussion
17:18 - Question: What’s the best type of vehicle to buy for an avid skier? How does ground clearance play a role in snow traction?
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General Motors Introduces ‘Ultra-Cruise,’ an Expanded Hands-Free Driver Assistance System: www.consumerreports.org/drive...
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4 years no problems, no oil changes and once you get used to one pedal driving it's great. I do park it outside 40 feet from my house, you don't have to park it on Mars to be safe. GM is going to replace our batteries with longer range units and give them an 8 year warranty. I can't complain.
you did not mention that you need to park it a a CONCRETE BUNKER, where ever you go, and some parking lot DONT ALLOW BOLT to be parked.
You mean yours hasn’t burned your house down yet?
$43K are you kidding me! Why would I buy this slow turd when for a bit more money I can have 10X the car. Tesla Model Y Dual Motor.
0-60 in 3.5 seconds
That’s faster than my 436hp Corvette!!!
no problems/ heh
@@markplott4820 Not an issue. The current update lets Bolts Park in lots. I have yet to see a parking lot that restricts Bolts. I’m getting a new battery and 8 year warranty on it next month so it’s ok
The extra rear seat legroom and availability of Super Cruise make it a great buy for the money.... whenever its back in mass production 🙌
I love the 1 pedal driving. I didn't at 1st, but once I got used to it, you have so much better control of your car. And while adding energy to your battery.
I just purchased a 2023 EUV premiere model. GM dropped the price 6k, and federal tax credit is 7500, the state reduced the price by 2k, and GM adds 1250 for level 2 charger. Great price, and great commuter car. With my solar panels, the sun is powering my car-in my garage. Long trips won't be made though, too long to charge to 80%.
Love this car, can't beat the price.
Come on Jen. Let someone show you how to properly use the one pedal mode and you will never go back (and you will never have to replace your brakes). Clearly, you are letting off the pedal like a normal car which is why it decelerates so quickly. You can precisely control acceleration and deceleration by slowly letting off the pedal when you want to slow down. I go for months without ever using my brakes because this works so well and is very smooth. It did take my wife and I a few times driving it to get used to this mode, but we both love it. Good luck and thanks for the review!
I agree, 100%.
Bingo; the Bolt's OPD is awesome. I always have it on.
I have a ‘19 Bolt that is coming up on 128000 miles, and I can’t overstate how much I love this car. I’m a process server, and I drive crazy miles. When I was looking for an EV, the Nissan Leaf didn’t come close to having enough range to use for work. I looked at the Tesla 3 and the Hyundai Kona. The Tesla would have had to be the very lowest trim level to be in my price range, and the Kona was only available in California. I didn’t think that Tesla would ever build such a cheap car, and I had no idea when I would get it. I asked a Hyundai dealer if I could buy one from California and have it shipped to Phoenix. At first they said yes, but when the car was released, they said no. The Chevy dealer had three on the lot., so I bought one.
I knew about single pedal driving from my research, but I had no idea how much I would love it. I use the aggressive regeneration setting and cruise control all the time. I only touch the brakes if I have to stop suddenly.
The Bolt is not the most comfortable car I have ever driven (that honor goes to the Citroen D model!), and it does bounce around a lot, but it is fun and easy to drive. My wife was a little intimidated by the tech, at first, but said a bit later that it is easier to drive than a conventional car.
As for the recall, I have the later battery pack, so I think the chance of a fire is small. I got an extension for my home charger and charge in the driveway instead of the carport. Other than that, I have not taken any other precautions. I’m content to wait for Chevy to replace my battery pack and give me those 6 extra kilowatt-hours.
Thanks for the report.
Bryan Curry
Well... you got your wish granted for Super Cruise. We just bought a new 2022 Bolt EUV Premier which comes with Super Cruise (it's sweet!) and many more convenience "bells and whistles". The wife drives it on her 80 mile round trip work commute, and she LOVES it. The ONLY issue so far is getting the "free" ($1,000 allowance) 240 volt (50 amp) level 2 charge outlet installed in our garage. Charging from a 120 volt (20 amp) home outlet doesn't get it... so the wife is getting "range anxiety". But we're utilizing the Chevrolet dealer's free DC fast charger a couple times a week in the meantime. We're "scheduled" with a company for the install, but permits etc. are slowing the process... going on 3 weeks now!
Our electricity in Ohio is CHEAP (as of July 2022 ours is still only 7.5¢ / kWh) so a "full tank" (65kWh or 247 miles) is around $5. But even at a respectable 12¢ it's still less than $8.00. Doing the math for driving cost, a range of 247 miles, charged up with 65kW of electricity costing 12¢ per kWh, equals a cost of just over 3¢ per mile... and NO oil changes! Try THAT in any ICE vehicle!
While the "green" argument is muddied with environmental questions (like battery pollution/recycling and charging EVs with electricity produced from coal), we're thumbing our nose at the big oil companies. Seriously, gasoline could return to $3.00 a gallon - which it likely WON'T - and we'd STILL be far ahead financially. The caveat is HOME CHARGING - because public charging stations will likely eventually raise prices just like gasoline... why wouldn't they? So as long as one can charge at home and just occasionally use a public charger, it's a HUGE fuel cost savings. Now for someone with their house roof covered in solar panels...
Both my wife & I love the "one pedal driving"... we now just leave it engaged It certainly is a different mindset AND initially takes practice modulating your foot to keep even speed. With regen braking there is no "coasting"... you're either accelerating or stopping. By modulating the accelerator pedal and keeping "just enough" constant power on, you maintain smooth constant speed. If you're one of those "pedal pumpers" from an ICE vehicle, you'll have a steep learning curve overcoming a bad habit. The bonus of NOT using your wheel brakes is NOT wearing out the brakes... they could technically last forever. Have you priced a brake job lately on an ICE car? $$$ Use the regenerative braking! It's a double bonus!
The biggest issue with Prius AWD is not only ground clearance, but also it doesn't have a true AWD, it only has a 5.7kw electric motor in the back which could lack some power.
Great episode. I love all three of the models discussed. Enjoyed the Forester v Prius chat. If I missed it forgive me, but the Bolt and Bolt EUV are off the market until at least February. Worth noting when you do a review that the vehicle is not for sale. And there are no used Bolt EUVs. Happy holidays!
Great point. I ordered a new EUV early last summer, and it was built in August. It was days away from shipping when the stop-sale went into effect. I would be surprised if I get my "new" EUV before it's a year old at this point. :(
Think of one pedal driving as energy delivered by the amount of pressure you apply to the accelerator. If you just remove your foot from the accelerator. It’s aggressive and slows you quickly. But if you ease off it it slows you down slowly. I love one pedal driving and will never go back.
I still drive a first gen "Volt" that doesn't have one pedal driving, but I do use the "L" transmission mode for more aggressive regen (for "near" one pedal driving). I've found that in "L" mode, my wife gets motion sickness as a passenger, so I have to be more conscious when taking my foot off the pedal. On the plus side - putting the car in Sport mode combined with "L" gives the car an extra edge on mountain roads, emergency braking and in taking off-ramps - it's like the Mercedes (and others') cars that automatically apply brakes when you abruptly lift off the throttle before entering a corner - allowing you to then modulate the throttle through the turn without taking your foot off the pedal completely. Bottom line, it's feels more confident when driving more aggressively with a higher level of regen.
As a 2017 BOLT EV owner awaiting his battery replacement , I know the recall is a serious issue that I'm confident will be solved soon. I am curious why the Hyundai Kona EV hasn't had the same scrutiny for the similar LG battery problem.
@@chezzyperson3339 I wasn't referring to the CR recommendation ' I was talking about the media attention.
Exactly right. The Kona EV recall happened earlier than the Bolt's. While there is a lot of movement toward going pro-EV, there's also just as fierce and opposite of a movement to try and make them look bad, dangerous, and unsustainable. I think that's part of what we're seeing here now, and it's effective based on comments I see from the anti-EV crowd.
The Kona had 4,694 recalled and 2 Ioniqs. There were 141,000 Bolts recalled. That’s the difference here.
I own a 2020 Bolt. I'm not a big fan of 1-pedal driving because in my opinion it leads to more foot strain because you have to have you foot on the pedal all the time modulating it. Also, it encourages over-acceleration and the strength of the regen people have commented that it is uncomfortable.
However, I have found a solution. I switch between L and D while driving. If you hit the shifter selector back it will switch between the two modes. This makes me very happy. It becomes like a quasi-stick shift that you can "downshift" into turns or down hills. This way you have even less foot strain since you don't have to modulate the brake pedal as much.
Me too with foot strain, interesting technique.
I just sold my Bolt EUV back to GM because the battery recall but I LOVED the car. LOVED it. I only sold it back because GM gave me back what I paid for it. With the older tech (charging speed and what not) and the stigmata with the recall I was never going to get that much value out of it...so I went for it...but I loved the car. it's a really good EV/Car. If you don't go on long trips and they fix the battery issue I HIGHLY recommend it.
It is an absurd overreaction to leave a Bolt idle because of the very low risk of fire. My 2017 is set to "hill holder" and driven as it always has been. My name is on the list, waiting to hear about the resolution of the battery recall. It's a wonderful runabout and very inexpensive to maintain.
About one out of 10,000 vehicles. Wife is waiting on the upgrade/replacement cells too. We charge it outside, and don't let it run low.
Jordan in Boulder, It seems like the RAV4 Hybrid with a good set of winter tires is the obvious answer.
Yes. Can't believe CR didn't say exactly this.🆗✅
@Pauline Weinberger Adding a little extra HP and Torque to the AWD Prius rear electric motor will help bridge the gap.
I purchased a used 2018 bolt and I love its drive! One pedal driving is the best driving experience!
I have an i3 which has quite heavy regen and it is not adjustable. I think that I had to develop the muscles in my right leg to get used to the "one pedal driving". It took some time to get used to it but I love it now. It is not quite one pedal driving in the i3, especially when coming to a stop on a downhill slope.
I have a Volt, and I like the auto-regen braking when in stop-and-go traffic, but prefer less regen when cruising down the freeway. It's tiring to have to maintain an accelerator pedal level on the freeway in order to not have the car decelerate when you really just want it to coast because you notice the car in front of you has slowed a bit, but not enough to actually need any braking.
The one thing I would change about Chevy's left paddle system for regen is make it more of a ramped analog control rather than an on/off switch. It's hard to emulate smooth and gentle braking with the paddle, and that can lead to the lurching boat, motion sickness effect.
My "game" is to take a look at the pad and rotors on my car when I have the tires off during a rotation, and seeing how remarkable it is that they still look brand new (now after 64K miles driven.)
Making the regen paddle analog would be wonderful.
I absolutely love the Bolt EUV's one-pedal driving.
This review should have mentioned that though DC fast charging is finally standard, the top rate is 55 kW - much slower than other options. That shouldn't keep it from being a good car for a lot of people (assuming the new batteries are properly made now). However, if you do enough long distance travel and/or aren't a patient type of person then the longer wait time at DC fast chargers might make a different vehicle a better fit. And Bolts don't have heat pumps, so more range will be used in cold weather to keep warm compared to other options. Again, not a deal breaker in most cases - but something that a more informative review would have mentioned.
talk to me when BOLT charges at 250 kw.
Not discussing DC fast charging rates made this sound like paid advertising. I own a Bolt and love it, but struggle to recommend it due to its slow DC fast charging rate.
@@markplott4820 The only to I use DC Fast Charging is when it’s free from EA during holidays and during road trips. It’s a struggle during the winter to go ton road trips. 90% of the time I charge overnight on Level 2, for free.
I have found the one pedal driving on the Bolt one of the most effective feature on the car, it really work the way it should be. you can actually control the force of regenerative braking with the pedal itself letting off the pedal smoothly.
the left paddle also works well.
however there are others aspects of the car that turns me really down.
the battery management in infotainment system is useless, you don't even know what is the battery percentage or battery temperature. I think this is a vital information for driver of any electric vehicle. GM must improve the infotainment system.
the other thing are the seats which are very uncomfortable for a vehicle with a tag price ok 30k up.
30k and up try 25,800 out the door. Brand new
The fixation with EVs having AWD baffles me. How many drivers really need it? I live in Michigan, where it the snow can get pretty darn deep - but only on occasion.
you noticed the AWD obsession too huh...? yeah it's weird, not to say the tech doesn't have a "use case" but definitely some manner of psychology/pathology/compensation desire happening there.
I live in Montreal. Travel every week to the countryside. Tough winters. Icy and snowy. I own an EUV. I love it. No AWD. I agree with you: please, Consumer Report, no need to repeat so many times the same things about the absence of AWD. :-) And by the way, lots of the AWD EVs don’t have a rear whiper , which is a real problem in winter conditions. That’s the case of the Ioniq5, EV6, Tesla Y and BZx4.
We Americans don't buy what We need, But what We get pleasure from............Paul
@@phillyphil1513 Do You buy snow skis or roller blades because You need them........Wake up...This is America...Paul
Something that I would be very interested in hearing more details on is the amount of current that is used conditioning the battery in very hot and very cold conditions. Chevy recommends leaving the car plugged in under these conditions and I know that for battery and cabin heat the Bolt uses resistance heat, which doesn't give you all that many BTU's/hour for 1 KwH of electricity (Something like 4100 BTU/KwH, IIRC?). The Bolt manual is silent on this subject.
In re Jenn’s issue with the one pedal driving- I feel it is chassis dependent and because the braking force is not balanced between front and rear on 2WD EVs, particularly if there’s no brake engagement, the vehicle leans on the driveshaft motor like motorcycle.
Thank you
I find using strong regen while cornering is very odd. I had a 2020 Ioniq EV and found myself using the paddles behind the steering wheel a lot but not while on fun backroads.
If you're considering a Prius AWD or Forrester, look at a RAV4 Hybrid. The electronic AWD on the two Toyotas isn't great, but the RAV4 gives you the clearance and tire size of the Forrester with pretty good fuel economy.
For the member question at the end, I would also like to recommend the rav4 hybrid!! It’s a little higher off the ground than even the subaru, and the all wheel drive system actually works great as well! i’d also like to say that i firmly believe that if you plan on keeping the vehicle 10+ years, the toyota will fare a little better in overall long term reliability than the forester overall. both great choices tho!!
Hi Consumer Reports, If you're considering a Prius AWD or Forrester, look at a RAV4 Hybrid. The electronic AWD on the two Toyotas isn't great, but the RAV4 gives you the clearance and tire size of the Forrester with pretty good fuel economy. :)
EV’s are like the 1st gear of manual transmission ICE cars which is so much fun. Instant throttle response. The difference is with ev it’s like that all the time, not just first gear.
Ive been one pedal driving in the Bolt for five years. It's just you madam!
I ordered a '23 Bolt Lt2 euv as it has a liquid-cooled battery and drive motor, and is one of the lowest-cost EVs out there. I commute over a mountain pass in Canada, and have usually used fwd hatches and wagons with winter tires, and have not had problems -- few people actually need awd. The Bolt is essentially already obsolete (with GM's ultium platform imminent), but the bugs are worked out, and the lead time is six-months or less now.
For whatever a dumb old man’s opinion is worth, I thought the one pedal driving on the Bolt is one of the best there is. Brake pads are going to last forever. :-) About 10,500 miles on mine, and not the first problem. First American car I’ve owned since 1981, and I am encouraged.
I love watching these not only for the excellent content, but also seeing the natural friendship between all of the staff at CR.
It took me a couple of weeks to get used to 1-pedal driving on our 2017 Bolt, but now that I am used to it I do not want ever to go back. The paddle on the steering wheel works well with 1-pedal driving: it provides a higher level of regenerative braking than you get by just lifting your foot from the accelerator pedal. The only situation where I find it less than ideal happens if I don't remember to get back on the accelerator before cancelling cruise control. In that case I get a moment of unwanted braking. I'm sure it is true that the seats on the 2017-2021 models are not the best, but I've never found them to be a problem. By contrast, I find the seats on our 2011 Prius to be quite uncomfortable. Everyone is shaped differently so your experience may be different. The battery problems were a bit of a nuisance at the time, but now that the battery has been replaced, we have a brand new battery with 10% more range than the original, which s a great deal for owners of earlier Bolts.
I plan to buy a BoltEUV as soon as they are back on the lot!
@ Bob Grenon I've been trying to buy a Bolt EUV for almost a year. When Chevrolet releases a dealer's cars that have been sitting on their lot for at least that long waiting for a battery or a release from Chevy their salespeople have lists of their clients who are also waiting. Doubt you'll find them sitting on a lot.
With the rebate/MSRP price drop, it makes it a no brainer. LT with Leather best balance of features and price. Free Standard L2 Wall charger install. EUV can handle 4 adults no problem. Please tell me a better mix of quality, and range for the price. Only knock is slow DC Fast charge speeds at 55kwh... but for alot of people its a mute point who can charge at home with a 240volt plug.
Brake pedal modulation issue? Who’s using the brake pedal?
gm just gave me new bolt euv primier to replace the 2020 bolt ev lt. for the battery problem. great deal.
I have a 2018 Chevy VOLT Premier and I drive in “ L “which works much like the one Pedal when driving but it still won’t bring me to a complete stop. I also use the steering wheel regen paddle. I am waiting for 2023. I am hoping the Batteries will go further. Also waiting to see what the GM batteries do in 2022.
For the guy considering the Forrester and Prius. You might want to consider splitting the difference with a RAV4 Hybrid. Ground clearance and better fuel economy.
Why do I have to use steering wheel paddles to adjust the re-gen braking and not just the brake pedal like on a gas car? Can't they incorporate re-gen and normal braking in one pedal?
i was initially in the 'i dont want regen heavy.. why would i not want to coast' but after a while driving the tesla .. i grew to know that its slowing down and i am not using the brakes at all.
i dont think aggressive regen maximizes miles.. because you are losing 20% efficiency to slow down and then accellerate.
so you likely get a little less mileage than low regen.
i think its better to almost never have to change your brake pads, though.
Interesting comments from Jennifer. I'm reasonably certain I've taken the Bolt EV up far more difficult dirt roads than her driveway, and FWD has always been sufficient. Also, at 11:00 discussing regenerative braking... light regenerative braking is actually more efficient, so range isn't the reason to use one pedal driving. That has more to do with driving feel.
Sounds to me that she doesn't know how to drive if she can't drive up a dirt road without all wheel drive and she can't figure out how to modulate the pedal
Have a 2017 Bolt Premium that I got used just over a year ago. It's not faultless, GM's handling of the battery issue is especially bad, but I love the car.
The seats don't bug me at all, and I'm a very rotund guy. The seats in my mom's Sorento dig into my kidneys something awful, but I've never been bothered by the Bolt's, even on 3+ hour drives.
Love the features, the heated steering wheel and seats are glorious in the cold. Don't have to waste energy heating the whole cabin. The 360 and back up camera are great. The rear view mirror camera is okay, more gimmicky and less useful than I expected. It's great when the sun, or some big truck, is behind you blinding you; but there are times when a standard mirror would be better.
The big caveat on features is that it's insane they didn't include some kind of built in map/gps, especially one that could find nearby chargers. I use Android auto, but it's not the same as having it built in.
Love the one pedal driving, which is weird because I thought I'd be a stick guy all my life. My other two cars were both manual transmission Subarus.
The Bolt is safe, but boring in the snow. Good traction control + 1 pedal driving works great. The FWD means no easy donuts. The 'Roos were fun, and had AWD so less chance of getting stuck, but less safe cus they were older and didn't even have traction control. Getting great all season or good snow tires is a must though.
In the spring (75 to 85F) if I'm careful I can break 300 miles from 100% to 10% battery. In the winter (-10 to 20F) if I'm having fun I can hit 10% battery driving less than 200 miles. Weather and how you drive really affect the range. Coming down the mountains on my first road trip with it I broke 7mi/kwh, ~220mpge. It is an amazing car on the switchbacks and mountain passes. I thought my 'Roos were fun, but this is soooo much better.
I don't like the EUV. It's somehow uglier, it's too big, has less range, less oomph, and costs more. The OG Bolt looks like a minivan and hot hatch had a baby, used to hate it but it really grew on me. Plus I customized mine a bit and plan to take it further when I have time/money/tools. Right now it's just creative pinstriping and de-badging, but I plan to add some covers to the rear wheels to increase range and make it look more distinct.
I don't know if I'd get another Bolt when 'Beverly' finally dies, if there's a cheap lowish mileage used one then maybe. I do miss AWD/4WD. I'm looking at the ID4 AWD, the Apterra 3WD, or maybe something else will come out that's neat. I definitely wouldn't get the EUV though. But I never have and probably never will buy a car brand new.
Didn't know AWD Prius' were a thing, might look into them.
Love my one-pedal driving in my 2014 Chevy Spark! Easing off the accelerator makes a smooth deceleration
Have they fixed the battery fire problem.
For the one pedal driving, my kids have commented on the fact that they no longer notice the deceleration at all anymore. They don't feel the moment the car actually stops at a light. I assume you are possibly coming into your stops to quickly, as it has been a much soother experience for us.
It took me about a month to get used to my EV Regen Breaking, but she is right, coming off a regular gas car, IF the EV Regen Breaking is set to aggressive setting, you have to gradually release the accelerator on an EV , instead of releasing right away.
Hello everyone,
I am looking at buying a bolt EUV I live here in Ontario Canada. I would use this car as my daily commuter and would drive it approximately 100 km a day in all weather conditions and we live in the snow belt. My only concern about this vehicle is in the winter i.e. in winter conditions and battery range loss in cold temperatures such as -30°. Also from the my Chevrolet app are you able to pre-condition your battery i.e. if I’m sitting at work an hour before I’m going to leave i am able to get the battery to start warming up when it’s not plugged in.
Any assistance/thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Cheers
I've driven in mountainous snow country for a half-century. In anything but the fluffiest powder snow, the simple rule is that you will get stuck--even with AWD or 4WD--in any snow that is more than few inches deeper than the ground clearance of a vehicle. Period. The tradeoff is that the higher the vehicle's ground clearance and the more aggressive the tires, the worse the fuel economy is. Where I lived in snow country, many people owned a fuel-efficient car (2WD or AWD) for use most of the time, and a high clearance 4WD (often a "beater") for the times when road conditions required the 4WD and high ground clearance. That's what I did for years.
I've had my bolt EV for three years now. My garage is full of motorcycle so I park it out front anyway. They've had 13 fires out of 200,000 vehicles sold. I'll play the odds I'm not worried about. I do only charge to 90% anyway. Unless I'm going to take a long trip somewhere. As far as the one pedal driving I have a feeling that Jennifer has not spent much time behind the wheel of a four or five speed sports car with a stick shift and a high-compression V8 engine. Because that's almost single petal driving especially when you're in first second third gear. You have to get a feel for it with your right foot. I turn up the regen all the way on my electric motorcycles as well.
I like the regen pad on the steering wheel. I feel it is easier to control and if needed I use the brake peddle. This is one thing I don't like on the Tesla M3 I have tested. My 2021 is quick and holds the road great even on the highway at 75 mph. I purchased it because of the great price of $25,000 OTD. This will never happen again.
I live on a mountain where we get snow and it is not well plowed. The AWD Prius is good as useless trying to get home. I own a Subaru and more than once, I have "towed" the AWD Prius up the mountain using a cable. For the viewer asking about trying to take an AWD Prius to skiing - don't. It is a really bad idea.
One pedal driving is exactly like a golf cart. Let off and the car/t slows precipitously.
Overall I have loved the Bolt sine its intro. I do wish they had an AWD option.
As for the EUV maybe the name Bolt Plus would be better.
For me, the one-pedal driving trick that worked for me to stop the “on-off” feeling was to think of it like driving a golf cart. Go figure.
2019 Bolt premier owner. A big miss in the video is discussion of the fast charging or lack of speedy fast charging in the new Bolt. They still only get up to ~55kw speed. Most other manufacturers are at ~120kw or higher. Don't even get me started on the fast charging during winter. That has not been fixed satisfactorily in my opinion as well. If you have a cold battery even if you have been running it all day it can still only start charging at ~20kw when you pull into the charger. This is a huge negative awaiting potential drivers and people new to EV's. I think Consumer Reports should highlight it for people researching new EV's since it is not something they are used to driving a gas car.
After 3 years Super Cruise will have a subscription cost. Do we know what that cost will be?
I would go for the regular Bolt, cheaper, faster. Okay the same thoughts about AWD, also with Fiat 500e, The extraction and little bit of power would make them so quick! I think it's about range and $.
The new Forester Wilderness model has a little extra ground clearance (9.2”) and comes with appropriate tires, plus a full size spare to boot. That’s the one you want if you ski a lot.
That’s an ICE car. This entire conversation is about EV. You still with me?
I hate one-pedal driving and regenerative braking. One of my friends has a Model S and I have to go into his settings and change them or simply not let him drive because I get motion sickness within 5-10 minutes. It's terrible. I don't understand how anybody can deal with that.
One pedal driving is my favorite feature of the bolt. It's smooth as glass,I can't possibly see getting motion sick from it unless she's just completely taking her foot off of the pedal. All you have to do is modulate the angle of your foot slowly and it's ridiculously smooth.
The AWD on the Prius only works up to 25 miles per hour. It’s just to get you moving
About the dynamic braking. Energy is used to accelerate the car. Some of this energy is stored in the momentum of the car. Regenerative braking puts some of the momentum back into the battery. However the dynamic braking is only 60% efficient. If you are driving at a constant speed you NEVER want the car to dynamically brake. It is the same as driving with your left foot slightly on the brake. It wastes energy. The purpose of one foot driving is if you are in stop n' go traffic or in a city constantly accelerating and braking it will save you a little energy. I never use it. The paddle works fine. I have and like my Bolt.
How about paving the driveway? 😀
Sometimes that will trigger a property tax reassessment that owners don't want.
We've never had trouble with our 2017 Bolt and the fire risk is not as high as your risk on a gasoline car. Any electric car should only be charged up to 80 percent unless going on a longer trip.
I've always gotten motion sickness very easily. I test drove a Bolt and it made me feel so sick. I ended up getting a different EV that had a much better one pedal driving experience. No more motion sickness. It was a blessing in disguise now that the Bolt has had all these battery issues.
Range less than 350 miles and no AWD make it a nonstarter for me. At least one more generation of ICE for me.
I worry about the human factors issues with one-pedal driving -- we expect in general cars to behave a certain way, that coming off the accelerator will have the car slow a bit (engine braking/mild regen like on a hybrid). Having aggressive regen cut in seems to change that paradigm and may be dangerous for those who switch between one-pedal cars and regular cars.
Was pressing lightly on the brake pedal for full regen braking really so hard that we had to change the control scheme?
You can actually adjust very easily.
Can you even buy one of these things given GM's problem with the batteries?
Just to update the discussion…. GM has a free Bolt EV software update available that, once applied, removes ALL restrictions related to the battery. Charge overnight in your garage if you want. It will restrict charging to 80%, and the (80%) restriction will be removed when your new battery is installed.
Contact your GM dealer to get it applied.
Does the '22 Bolt EV have the improved seats like the EUV?
Might be late for answering, but yes they do. The seats are not the best out there, but absolutely not as bad as some seem to mention, huge improvement from the last generation. Proud owner of a 2022 Bolt EV here, absolutely love that car!
A: yes.
"It's not an SUV" you are correct, it's an EUV lol like who said it was an SUV?
Three clowns stuck on the Electric Utility Vehicle not being a "Sport" Utility Vehicle. I didn't know that Utility Rather than "Sport" was what determined whether or not it was designed to go off-road. This car (bolt ev and euv) have tons of utility. Just drove to the depot, slid a new 60 gallon hot water tank into the back, and drove home. Then put the seat back up and drove two people with all their luggage to the airport. Oh did I mention the rack on the roof for my kayak and the trailer hitch for my bike rack and utility trailer.
RE: Regenerative braking. I feel there are two types of people: those who use maximum regen, and those who haven't given it time to get used to yet.
It's not that regen makes you motion sick, it's that you make yourself motion sick by being too jerky because you aren't used to it, or you switch between too many cars. The same thing would happen with the accelerator pedal where someone who is used to driving a Geo Metro who suddenly has a Lamborghini. I also felt sick when I first got my EV, but I gave it a chance and now that I've daily driven the car, I'm perfectly used to it. I can drive 25 miles without touching the brake pedal once.
I actually feel it's unsafe to even have this configurable. What if someone else uses your car and sets it to Low, and then you get in and end up blowing through a stop sign or crashing into the car in front because you expected it to perform normally?
I love my Bolt and love full regen.
Does it come with a fire extinguisher ?
GM should have increased the DCFC speed of the 2020+ Bolt EV/EUV.
50kW absolute max in the most ideal conditions is *SLOW* now-a-days. Even a minor upgrade to 60kW, or 75kW DCFC would have made this vehicle at lot more usable on the highway.
The Bolt EV/EUV isn't "bad". Just not great. 4 years, and I still haven't gotten a single OTA update lol.
Faster DCFC, Infotainment, OnStar... fix/update any of these and the Bolt gets a lot more convincing.
I also dislike one pedal driving. Much prefer mild regen (not zero regen) for driving.
great to hear GM, the leader of EVs worldwide ;-) will eventually be selling an EV again soon... I look forward to CR showing us how to hack supercruise, you know, to be fair and impartial to the other consumer options out there...
Ophtho, that was a JOKE right? Saying that GM is the leader of EV’s Worldwide 😂😂🤣
GM along with all of the other Legacy automobile manufacturers are dreadfully behind Tesla and all of the Chinese companies who will be invading America in the next 24-36 months and that’s when the whole game changes. ICE cars are Dead. The transformation to electric cars is going to be swift and many big names are going to be left behind because they are not ready to the Tsunami of electric cars from China.
Tell the skier to get a hybrid crosstrek, or wait for the Solterra. Forester is good but the mpg sucks
Yes, there’s no excuse for this vehicle to only have 2wd. Any vehicle with the name “utility” in it should have an AWD version. Honda, Toyota and Subaru understand this, which is why they’re so popular.
They called it a euv not an SUV at least they're being honest with their naming also the bolt is 1 inch lower than the model y which to me is in a big deal large tires would make up the difference let the consumer decide screw the pundits
I own a bolt. Great little car. Lousy seats. Lousy charging curve that impacts joy of driving on trips. Don’t quite get the concerns about more aggressive regen. I wish this car had more regen options. You adjust quite easily from ICE. Last item, GM is no Tesla as much as it’s marketing department pretends. Over the air updates would be super convenient and keep the vehicle improving. Dealer experience is not great. I am happy with the Bolt and have recommended it to other people. Will also consider other brands on next purchase though. Not convinced that GM can compete with so much competition coming.
Hey Jen,
So with the Tesla style one pedal driving regen, you really have to be sensitive with modulating the accelerator pedal. When my father first started driving my Model 3, i felt exactly the same way. As ICE car drivers we're pretty used to coasting where you foot us completely off the accelerator pedal, but the regen will be quite hard when you do that. Especially when you're at highway speeds, the regen actually starts before you lift your foot off completely. So you have to be precise and slow when you're lifting off. It's because of the immediate response of electric motors compared to ICEs
You need some fact checking on the statement about the tax credit. The law has not yet been signed.
Trying to come back to GM, but trust/safe
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you guys are going to look at me like I'm nuts for saying this, but the data backs it up. The Chevy Bolt and Bolt EUV are posed to take the RAV4 for and Camry's spot within the next decade. GM just needs to work on getting the vehicle to that price point (around $20k to base) without sacrificing too much in the way of quality. Which they are well on their way to doing (I assume you've seen their new batteries and motor)
Yeh, I think you might be crazy! Lol
@@jalh9080 he may have a point, for a long time Toyota's big advantage is ice reliability. But with electric motors the playing field gets evened out, even GM can compete with Toyota
When I post polite critical comments on other Chevy EV videos, they are typically deleted, so hopefully you are not on their payroll. Bought a 2018 new, was denied a buy-back, so we paid Chevy more $ for 2021 to get out of the scary 2017-2019 battery issues. Within WEEKS learned ALL Bolts would need battery replacement. Both the 18 and 21 make the jet engine fan noise whenever charging in hot weather, which is very disconcerting. Have waited 1.5 yrs for new battery and dealer that took our 2018 has, too. Can't do the 90% range cap and not go below 70 mls due to long commute in winter temps. After a bunch of critical posts I recently made, Chevy miraculously has a battery for me now so will get that in 10 days. Today is cold and hearing popcorn/percolator sounds if plugged in - dealer can't say by phone if it's safe to charge, would have to drive an hour there. So, surfing for answers brought me here. Also just learned of a new fire-related recall on Bolts related to seatbelt pretensioner in wrecks igniting the carpet, but dealer doesn't know when part will be avail. We're stuck with the car since resale has tanked. The early adopter tax has not been enjoyable. I believe their Ultium is LG, too, so...
I dont like the one pedal driving. I like the lowest regen possible in the Leaf.
You'd think these car 'experts' would know by now that almost all modern EVs (except Teslas) utilize blended braking. That means it doesn't matter if you one-pedal, use the paddle, or the brake pedal it's going to regen to slow you down to it's max ability before applying friction brakes, depending on how much stopping force you are calling for. They are just all just gimmicks to recreate the Tesla (almost) one pedal driving experience that is very necessary on that car due not having blended braking. You cannot out think a Bolt for efficiency, regardless of which method you choose to slow it down.
You're doing it wrong, Jen. I've had my '22 Bolt EUV since August. It replaced a '17 Volt. The single pedal driving is great- and smooth. I'm guessing you are using it wrong from your description. You use the accelerator to control most of the momentum, acceleration and braking. Let up on the accelerator a bit to slow- if you take your foot off the accelerator it will dive into hard slow down, yes. So simply keep your foot on the accelerator and ease it off and on. Only in an emergency should you be jumping off it. Used properly its smoother than gas-to-brake on your ice vehicle.
GM has ONE PEDO, driving.
You dont have to have AWD. Fwd with traction control
GM is the leader EV manufacturer in the U.S according to President Biden. EUV AWD is to expensive for the potential Chevrolet buyers! Styling is for the traditional nerd EV buyer.
Move if your driveway needs AWD.
It's very strange. Buick has a larger all electric SUV built on the same platform but only available in China. That car would sell far better than the Bolt EUV in the US.
That is strange. China gets all the best Buicks!
If you’re talking about the Buick Velite 7, that’s identical to the Bolt EUV in size
the EUV is the V7 simply rebadged and brought to 'Murica.
Just charge it to 80% and park it close by.
90% of SUV,s don’t come with 4 wd you have to buy as option!
Kinda have the be really bad driver not to be able to use one pedal when driving an electric car. You just don't have to liftoff fully when you want to slow down... More careful and feel the car then you'll be fine.
Exactly, and only a bad driver would be unable to drive up a dirt road hill without all wheel drive
Folks, it's not BADGED as an SUV, so why are you demanding it be one? What it has is more rear leg room, a LOT more room. Most SUV's are not sold with All Wheel Drive. The two wheel drive SUV's are often rear wheel drive. As for winter, my brother has a Bolt (standard) and lives on a dirt road in the mountains of North Carolina. He put winter tires on it and goes in and out, up and down hills, in snow with no problems, unless the snow is deeper than the ground clearance. The EUV was designed to be a premium car, whereas the standard Bolt was a "first time out" car. THEY DIDN'T CALL IT AN SUV FOLKS. !!! Maybe they invented a new category !!
I once owned a Renault 16, the very first "hatchback" automobile ever made (1961). It was billed a "Sedan/Wagon" at the time because the term "Hatchback" didn't exist.
I bought a Bolt EUV, my first "new" car in 40 years. The only real limitation on this car is the 50KWH fast charging. Otherwise, it's a GREAT car, with more rear leg room than most "full sized" cars. So give it credit for that. As for one pedal driving, it's just like a car with a standard ("stick shift") transmission, one used the throttle pedal to modulate speed. I live in Los Angeles, and LOVE one pedal driving, but it's not for everyone.