Ours is 3 weeks old with over 1,200 miles on it and I haven't had to pay to recharge it once. I love having a free destination charger at work and Chevy paying for the NEMA 14-50 plug to be installed at my house for level 2 charging in a couple weeks.
My parents are looking at getting a Bolt EUV and I keep hearing great things, the only three knocks I have heard in research is fast charging (it’s a daily commute car so non factor), small arm rest and seats aren’t dry comfortable? Are the seats and arm rest that bad?
@@rtkn04 Both are just fine to me. I don’t plan on ever needing to use Level 3 fast charging as I only drive 35 miles round trip to work with this car. It’s an amazing car. They will love it!
We have had a Bolt EUV Premiere on order since mid April...have no idea when or if GM will ever deliver! The funny part is the vehicle used in the test is the exact vehicle we ordered (minus the super cruise) right down to the colour! One of these days....sigh! Mike 🇨🇦 🍁
Hi, not sure if you know, I kind of thought it was common knowledge but each of those light green and darker green bars represents 5% charge, so when 5 of those bars are gone that’s minus 25% state of charge.
This car is already obsolete. It's on the old BEV2 platform. All GM EVs going forward will be on the Ultium platform. It will be a nightmare to find parts for this car in the future. I'm waiting for the Equinox EV. I really like my 14 Equinox and can't wait to see the production EV version.
The $6,300 price cut on the EUV and the $5,900 on the EV are retroactive on any 22 model that have been sold since January 1st also. This is per the Chevy Website.
@@tjs114 you do realize that only pertains to the current recall on the recalled batteries, not if there is any future unrelated issues to this recall. I just found this statement from GM clarifying it only pertains to existing litigation( as in the class action lawsuit) “The agreement for the reimbursement program does contain language that waives claims against GM and identifies existing litigation. This is a common practice when it comes to programs like this. It does not waive claims involving any potential recalls in the future.”
Nice work Tom. I recently purchased a 22 Bolt EV and am really enjoying it! I listen to you and the other guys every Friday on the Inside EV's podcast. Keep up the great work
@@gmv0553 I was simply offering my opinion of the styling - I don't like how it looks. I'm allowed to like and dislike styling, right? I never trashed the Blazer - I think a LOT of people will love it, but I don't. However, I am looking forward to the Equinox EV, I may get that for my wife. We owned a gas Equinox for 7 years and loved it.
Was visiting my brother for 10 days he has this car. Was going 65 mph got 280 miles of range. Drove 240 and 40 miles left of range. Very jealous of the range. Done over 1000 miles on this car. Never needed to use DC charger. This is the only downfall this car. I wish it was more than 50kw DC charger, but never needed to use it. Back seats are great.
Change the view of the instrument screen to the “advanced” view. It doesn’t give you a number still but there are clear alternating green dark green bars that are in 5% increments. It also gives you the kw power numbers you are using or regenerating.
I mean, it's not like an ICE vehicle has a numerical count of how many gallons of gas you have left. It's either a gauge or miles to empty just like this.
@@RadzPrower You do expect an electric car to operate like an electronic gadget in some ways, though. Every smartphone/tablet/laptop shows its battery percentage on demand. So why not the same with an electric car?
@@gparyani A lot of devices don't show you a percentage at all and many more don't by default. I know if I pick up my wife's iPhone, the taskbar doesn't show me the percentage number.
@@RadzPrower I said "on demand". On iOS if you drag up for the Control Center you can see it. On Windows PCs, you can put your mouse over the battery icon.
@@gparyani I've got controllers, earbuds, etc. that don't directly tell you your charge level either. They can be determined by external devices, but such is the case with the Bolt as well.
It is inexpensive. That holds true for all buyers, but value depends on your needs. If you plan to take frequent long road trips, this has a lower value. If all of the drawbacks that come with the lower price do not affect you, then this has great value!
@@TheLastMoccasin let’s hope so! Out of all the dealers I’ve been in contact with gm seems to know the least about production times or availability. So hopefully they have it sorted out by then
Hey Tom, I just picked up an EUV last night and I agree with your sentiment about no percentage display.. terrible move from GM. I have however found a way to see it and that's in the My Chevrolet app. I know that's not ideal but hey it's something. BTW I bought the charge point 50A home charger on your advice so thanks for all your hard work testing all those EVSE units. 👍 I should have waited until the end to comment 🤣. My super Cruise doesn't seem to be as sensitive as that one your driving. I wonder if it's all software or maybe a hardware calibration too. One last thing I heard you talking about GM installing the home chargers with Bolt purchases on the podcast and I can confirm they are still offering that for up to $1000 towards the cost of it, since I already had the ChargePoint unit from my previous car they gave me $500 in EvGo charging credit.
Love my 2022 EUV. It's identical to the one you drove in this video, minus the supercruise. I've been able to get about 4.0 mi/kWh at 70-72 MPH with AC on by upping the tire pressure to 41 all-around VS the sticker's 38 PSI for better ride. Interesting, is the Bolt EUV & Volt use identical tires, same size dimensions, and they're nearly identical in weight, but the Volt has a higher recommended tire pressure.
I also own a 2022 Bolt EUV living in Western NC where we benefit from Appalachia mountains. We have a lifetime avg of 4.2 miles/kWh over 4,300 miles. From April - July. I expect that avg to come down in winter months. We also avg closer to 50 mph as we do less hwy driving. ICE vehicles do poorer in higher altitudes based on barometric pressure - no issue though for EVs of course as they don’t rely on oxygen for propulsion.
I was able to bump my efficiency from 4.0 up to 4.2 mi/kWh in my 2019 Nissan Leaf by switching my tires to Nokian Entyre 2.0. I got the idea from Nikki over at Transport Evolved. I wonder if they would make a difference for the Bolt EUV as well.
I really do like these cars. They offer a lot for younger families that may want to go ev without committing to a 50k price tag or more. Honestly very impressed and can’t wait to see the fast charging.
i bought a 2017 bolt with 23k miles an a new battery as a commuter vehicle but after 3 weeks of driving it, i went out to my sonata an it wont even turn over, i guess 3 weeks was too long for it to sit...... its a fun little suv easy parking, fast when needed..
I've been able to drive my Bolt to the point that there are no bars left on the battery charge meter. I'd bet he could have squeezed another 10 - 15 mile from that charge.
The GOM on my first EV - a Gen 1 Leaf 30kWh - would do something similar when it was getting towards an empty battery... It would be at, maybe, 9 miles left, then, within a matter of yards, suddenly change to the dreaded 3 dashes ---...!! Like you said, really frustrating. Hey, not that we get the Bolt EV / EUV in the UK, but that seems pretty much all the EV that 99% of the population would ever need - an affordable 'family' car with around 3 hours' worth of (highway) driving range before you stop for a 'comfort break' and recharge. Those EV-skeptics who pronounce, "I'll only get an electric car when it'll do 600 miles on a charge - just like my petrol / diesel car..." are just nuts - 600 miles (at least here in the UK) would take around 10 hours of non-stop driving... who on Earth can hold their pee in for 10 hours...!! 🤣
You don’t get it. The range on a vehicle like this is OK for most people most of the time, but the charging time is on these is too slow for road trips. People don’t want to charge for 60 to 90 minutes every 2 to 3 hours on a road trip. A 60 minute charge might be OK for some if you could drive for at least 4 hours (around 280 miles at 70MPH)) and we’re going to take an entire hour to eat lunch and there was actually some place you wanted to eat conveniently right next to the charging station. Often there is no place good to eat next to the charging station on a road trip. So, you still need to make a separate stop to eat or just go through a drive through and eat in the car. These cars charge way to slowly to get useful range added during between meal bathroom breaks.
Another good video, Tom. I have been surprised by the Bolt's modest sales ever since they first showed up at dealers in 2018. I've driven one and it's a great little car that is very quick around town. The first two years had not the best seats but that got better. With the new price this car is really an incredible deal.
The modest sales are due to the modest production numbers. GM right from the beginning said they would only make 30,000 per year, with the theoretical possibility of making as many as 50,000/year.
I never liked the Bolt EV. When I saw the first Bolt EUV, I thought it was just the new model year EV, resuming production after the battery issue was sorted out. I was wrong on both of those points. Two confusingly similar names, it should be a different name, but that's in keeping with Volt Bolt Bolt EV Bolt EUV. And the 2022 EUV might need a replacement battery. When it came time to get a car, we ditched the gas altogether, kept our 2013 LEAF, and bought a 2023 Bolt EUV LT.
Love the coverage of lower cost EVs , I know there's only so much you can talk about Chevy bolts and leaf, but the expensive stuff is out of the question for me
I’ve seen you countless times on Alex‘s channel and to be perfectly honest I think it’s the most valuable part of his programs. I finally just went straight to yours and it’s outstanding. I probably watch 3 to 4 hours of Tesla TH-cam videos a day as I am working, perhaps more some days and I have always found yours to be outstanding in the crowd. This one is no exception. Keep up the good work Tom
Great video👍. Every time I see one of those tests I realise how efficient the Lucid is. 4.3 miles per kwh from a large, obese, 900+ hp car is nothing short of outstanding 👌. Good job chevy...coming along nicely 👏
The seats in the 22 Bolt are mich improved. Just did a 500 mile road trip over the last two days and the seats were very comfortable. Having been in previous year Bolts I find the new ones are just fine
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Chevy to show the distance to empty when the battery is low. It's something Chevy has been doing since 2011 with the Chevy Volt. After the Battery is depleted and the gas tank is below a quarter tank all predictive range goes away and the gas gauge only shows "Low". You have no idea how much range is left in the gas tank! I agree it would help with range anxiety but at least they keep it fair and don't show the range in the gas tank either. Cheers!
Great video and very informative. I have been researching EVs recently. I like the Ford Lightning but there's no way I'm paying for the insane dealer markups. I'm willing to wait until supply catches up with demand.
Bolt owner here. Lets say the battery blocks show 80%. Once the block drops to 75% it is 75% and wont drop to 70% until it reaches 70%. So as long as you notice as soon as it drops that will be that number as the blocks are in 5% increments.
Great job sir. I always love these videos. I just traded my Bolt in for the ID.4 2022 with the new software. I am sad as the Bolt is really fun to drive. But like you said we use it for travels.
Just ordered the 2023 version last week, premier was $33k. Though, it took quite a few dealers to find one that charged only msrp. Went with the euv over the regular bolt as we desperately need the additional space in the rear seat. Soooo excited about getting ours!
If Chevy included ventilated seats in the basic Bolt EV it would be a perfect choice; but since it is over 100F almost daily between May and October where I live, the EUV is the only choice.
Hello Tom. Great video. I like seeing range test in these smaller EV’s. Have you ever done a range test on the Hyundai Kona and Kia Niro EV? I would love to see how all those small EV’s perform in a range test.
Tom, thanks! I am also bothered by no digital SoC readout on my e-Golf so use an OBDIi dongle and software. Have you considered doing this, too? It would also enable you to record pack temperature, power output, etc.
My Bolt has serious issues when I do real time data while driving. Entire systems on the car flake out and shut down. Be prepared to pull the dongle and restart lol.
Wonder why you choose 70 mph? I talked to the owner of one of the first Bolts I ever saw and he said he could get 300 mile range by driving at 50 mph. Too slow and possibly too dangerous for me. I tend to drive both our EVs at 65 mph. I see Teslas crusing along at 65 too. I've heard best compromise between range and speed is 58 mph?
The charge gauge gives a pretty good indication of state of charge. I know its not numeric but my EV gauge is incremented in 5% intervals so I find that is enough to get a pretty good idea where my charge is.
Wanted to note I've been driving the bolt euv premiere with super cruise for the last month and I absolutely love super cruise. I haven't found the infrared camera altert system to bothersome personally. If I look away for about 3-5 seconds it requires you to take over control. If you need to read something, you can hold it just below the camera on steering wheel with no monitoring actions. Looking to the side and reading something or holding up an object in front of eyes will activate system. Another thing I've found, not that I do this often. But with my sunglasses. I can shut my eyes and the system doesn't beep at me. Maybe it has to do with the polarized lenses of maui jims sunglasses.
Thank you Mr. Tom Molougheny for this great 70 mph range test and for keeping it interesting with your take on the quarks of the UI and Super Cruise. I have seen many of your great, detailed, informative DCFC charging curves on other EVs and would be interested in the DCFC curve of this 2022 Bolt EUV. Will that be coming soon? Thank you and keep up your great work!
I've owned 2 Bolts and for reason I still can't wrap my head around I get WILDLY different consumption from day to day. I've taken highway road trips where I got upwards of 4.2-4.5 miles/kw over a full charge and some as low as 2.2 for the same trip. I had a spark ev and it was MUCH more predictable. My only guess is maybe the battery conditioning system... anyway, I was actually a little bit excited about the EUV until I saw the charge rate. The new price is great...but still with the charge rate it makes road trips pretty rough.
Thank you! Finally! another bolt owner that gets it. I have the same issues. Absolutely no consistency. If I had to guess, the battery management does nothing until the battery hits extremes either high or low. I will see 10% range difference just with a 15f temp change outside. No ac or heating and same trip and speed. The charge rate is horrific as well. It has to be perfect weather and very low(but not too low) state of charge to get a decent rate(54-55kw PEAK). In winter, forget quick charging altogether....it just cant do it. Wifes kona electric is now our main car and it is night and day difference. I get almost on the dot range and charging rates are SUPER predictable. I reset my mi/kwh recently and am getting 3.8-4.0 right now generally driving between 52-60mph. her car? 4.4mi/kwh @ 60-65mph. And I can get that every single time. I tried to pull data on the OBD2 port to see it in real time on the bolt and the system freaked out stability control shut off, went in and out of turtle mode, traction control turned off, basically the whole system crashed. I restarted it fine and I can pull data while parked but NOT while driving lmao. That was a first for me. I've done it on the prius and nissan leaf with no problems... btw, Do you live in a cold climate? curious what range and efficiency you get in cold weather.
The camera in the center of the steering column must be able to "see" your eyes with Super Cruise engaged. You probably blocked the camera while holding the wrapper. My wife often drinks from a water bottle while using the Super Cruise. She has found if SHE can't see the camera, IT can't see her eyes - and will disengage. NO system is perfect. When you understand that, it's easy to avoid actions which interfere with it. Realistically, looking away from the road ahead of you for a few seconds in normal freeway driving is often a deadly action. I think it's a VERY well designed and SAFE self-driving feature.
@@MolloRelax Look away for a second or two ONLY in VERY light traffic. But in rush hour traffic, use peripheral vision, and never remove your vision/attention from ahead of you... even for a second. That's how freeway pileups happen. If you're tired, get off the road, park and rest. Otherwise you're a danger to yourself AND innocent drivers around you. 😊
@@nortonnewmann3711 I NEVER said anything about rush hour..... you did! I have been driving for 50+ years. As my comment is about highway driving , your reply is kinda useless to me. But thanks for reminding the beginner drivers out there, with their eyes on their phones half the time...from what I notice a lot. They are the next pile-ups initiators.
Ever consider a real world range test? Here in West FL, average highway speed is 80 on the highways and that would be with AC on almost year round and radio and ventilated seats on as well.
With new $7500 tax credits supposedly coming the Bolt would be around $20k (if you have a $7.5k tax liability! THANK YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN & DEMOCRATS!!!
better was 15k for ev under 40k cost help alot buyer been 7,500 usd long time . biden give you a same bone. but if want ev fly of the showroom should 25k before the rebate then ppl buy it . way if was 15 k go too 40k have price down too 25k .
2022 Kia Rio Price: $16,250 Fuel Economy: 36 mpg .. price should be for ev . 2022 Mitsubishi Mirage Fuel Economy: 39 mpg . 2022 Hyundai Accent Fuel Economy: 36 mpg . as you see new 2022 gas car way better get 400 too 431 mpg . see tell ev,s on save mpg rating ppl wpon,t buy it . cost way base bolt 25 too 30 k . say 225 mpg way most drivers work and have family.
Price: $23,750 Fuel Economy: 52 mpg for a 2022 Toyota Corolla Hybrid 520 around 520 miles . 2022 Hyundai Ioniq Fuel Economy: 59 mpg Price: $23,600 way better ev say under 300 miles . ev longer way too go reach gas car miles.
no change. L is just single pedal driving where regen is mapped to the first 1/3 of the accelerator instead of mapped to the brake. It is convenience more than anything. Coasting saves more power than regen.
A range test in cold and heat would also be handy. I was just driving my new Bolt EV in 104F yesterday and I was only getting 1.6 to 2 miles per kWh. After flipping off the air cond and driving on city streets I ended up with 6.4 miles kWh.
The turning radius of the Bolt LT is tighter too (shorter). In San Francisco, that's a golden thing. The EUV is 1/2" taller than the Bolt LT. I like the front end of the EUV better. If they had made the Bolt LT with the EUV front end, that would have been as show stopper. I've noticed that if I keep the speed below 65, the range goes way up. Keep it at 55 and you can get 300 miles in warm weather.
Tom: your energy economy is closer to 3.65 mi/kWh. If you take the total distance travel divided by the energy consumed, you get 3.64 mi/kWh. You get a higher precision, because distance and energy consumption were measured with more decimal places.
GM does that "no more mileage display when low" thing with their gas vehicles too. When my Silverado drops to 50 miles, it stops giving you a number. And yeah, thats f-ed up. Not sure what moron at GM decided that was the thing, probably the same guy who decided to name the cars (Volt, Bolt; EV, EUV) with easily confused names to minimize sales.
Hey Tom: great video with useful observations about SuperCruise! It would be great to know more about what you consider when doing your range tests since different temperatures, weather conditions, use of climate control and regenerative braking will all affect range. I think it’s worth noting to viewers that (unlike gas cars), stop-and-go driving in an EV with regeneration is likely to increase range compared to non-stop 70mph without braking.
'and for our friends in Europe, or anyone else who follows the metric system.' You mean literally the whole planet except the U.S., Liberia and Myanmar? Haha. GM has already admitted the Bolt makes no profit, and they are lowering the price again in 2023? Yikes. Interesting business model over there.
My 2022 bolt EUV only gives me at the most 220 with an empty vehicle and about 80% outside at the speed limit. I would say that GM lied by saying that it is a 247 mile range just to show as comparable to the other EUVs.
Great video and range test. When you are using super cruise, the bar on the steering wheel will blink to warn you that it thinks you are not paying attention and then do some other things like an audible voice warning before disengaging. I think the disengagements you were getting were from the car not being able to see the lines. Sometimes really bright sun will cause mine to disengage.
The sensitivity regarding the cruise control highlights nicely the difference between a company like GM and Tesla. Tesla, not having been around the block as long as GM, made a system with potential safety issues they either ignored or didn’t have the expertise / institutional knowledge to foresee. Whereas GM, having been around the block much longer and likely more risk averse, was perhaps conservative in their design.
We recently just purchased a Bolt EUV LT for my wife. We’ve been happy with it so far. There are some things about the user interface that I wish my Tesla had but you’re right about not having a percentage anywhere. We don’t plan to road trip but I do think the charging speed for DC is abysmal
My first electric car had a range of 64 miles per charge. My 2023 Chevy bolt EUV will go 310 miles on surface streets on a full charge. I get zero range anxiety because my first electric car had such a relatively short range.
I seems like the "Super Cruise" implemented in the bolts are not safe since they disengage the moment you look away without any warning. Maybe people with the feature should file a suit together against GM to either update the software to make it safer/usable or to get their money back...
Other than the percentage of the battery charge - the display in the Bolt EV/EUV is *the* *best* display of information about the way you're driving and the range, etc.
I thought Super Cruise flashes first if you’re not paying attention… and doesn’t just shut off? It says in manual it gives a warning not just stops. Does it do that?
Wow just shutting off is not good, I was thinking that a better system like supercruise would be helpful in the event of a heart attack or stroke or something by a controlled stop rather then letting you careen off the highway
It'd be cool if someone would do a range test video at different speeds to try to find the optimal speed for getting to your destination in the least amount of time factoring in range and charging time.
Good price but we have to still find a dealer that won't jack up the price with "market adjustments". Chevy should go the way Ford is going with its EV line. Direct to consumers and cut out these shyster dealerships altogether.
19:45 I actually think that setting is fine in the Bolt EV/EUV because, unlike most other EVs, when the Bolt hits 0%, it's done. Continuing to provide a range estimate with so little actual driving range remaining is a serious liability as it could result in people losing propulsion or getting stuck in compromising situations.
As a Chevy Volt driver that has the same system, I can vouch for it being very annoying. I end up resetting my trip meter when right when it says low so I know how many mile I actually have left. I’m glad that when it’s done it’s done but I wish it went all the way to zero still. That’s a Chevy thing as a whole though and it’s quite annoying.
@@_cjmccullough The Chevy Volt operates differently. At least in all the models that I've owned/driven. When the battery is done, it simply transitions to the ICE. The biggest issue with the Bolt (and Volt, too) is that the display doesn't show percentage. The Range Estimator is a nice option, but only knowing the battery level within 5% increments isn't good enough. And that's really the issue. It's not the transitioning to "Low" under 5% battery: it's not have 1% increments.
@@newscoulomb3705 the Volt does the same thing as the Bolt whether it’s gas or Electric. When it’s almost empty it just says low and instead of how many miles are truly left which is the annoying part. Sure the Volt is a plug-in hybrid but the system is the exact same. And it’s very similar in many other Chevy products. Plus it would be great to see the actual percentage as well and the miles but we get neither below 5%. That’s got to be fixed.
@@_cjmccullough Do you have a second-generation Volt? I don't recall the "Low" before transitioning to gas. My first generation Volt's always did it abruptly. Regardless, as I said, I think this was an intentional design on the Bolt EV/EUV that I personally agree with. When there's zero accessible buffer after 0% (possibly unique to the Bolt), it makes sense to simply state that you are extremely low on range under 5%. If you hadn't already mapped out your distance before it switched over, you're being extremely reckless (something GM probably doesn't want to encourage). The reason it's a pain for Tom is simply because he's trying to test down to exactly 0%, so for that, it's an inconvenience. Meanwhile, in the real-world my Bolt EV and others I've reviewed, I've arrived at a number of chargers in the middle of nowhere with between 0% and 5% battery, and every time the Range Estimator switched over to "Low," I had already mapped out arrival to my destination within a mile or less.
I don't think the range of the Bolt matters too much considering its limited fast-charging speed capability. It's not quite a road tripper. That's some good efficiency at speed though. It'll get ya from San Diego up to the mountains around LA though with enough room to spare to get back to a fast-charger on the way back.
I will be using mine to go from Buffalo to Syracuse and there and back is only 35 minute charge needed . I also use it to go to Toronto from buffalo and it can do that on a full charge.
I’ve been waiting for this video and the bolt EUV definitely packs a punch and is great value for money, plus it has a lot of luxury features that many other expensive cars don’t have like super cruise, ventilated seats, and probably the best display on the market for understanding where your range is being hit from and what’s using the most battery. It just sucks that the charging speed is so slow for road tripping. For 90% of driving that takes place at home this is probably the best range for the money especially since it typically gets more than what the EPA claims in mixed driving, around 275-300 miles.
Try 200 miles average in Michigan. Winter is a solid 100miles less than epa. DC fast charging also SIGNIFICANTLY drops in winter from max of 55kw (before crazy taper at 52%) down to 20-25kw "quick" charge rates.
@@fookschool 200 miles is the average that most of the higher prices cars get on a regular trip aside from Tesla, lucid, and Mercedes, so thats not bad. Plus all electric cars take a massive hit in the winter so I still think its good value for money and probably the best option out there. But it definitely suffers from slow charging speeds which would suck on a road trip but that barely ever happens so its not a big concern because you can just charge at home
@@_cjmccullough I have a Kona EV and a 2013 Nissan leaf as well. Neither one drops range so drastically in winter. The leaf goes from 80-100miles down to 60-80miles and the Kona doesn't even go below 200. Also Kona doesn't lose much charge rate either. If you never had another electric car the bolt seems great and you figure this is normal, but the bolt thermal management is worse than the air cooled leaf battery lol. Low temp performance is horrific because the bolt doesn't keep batteries any higher than bare minimum. LG did their part. GM did the worst software.
@@fookschool exactly I knew it didn’t drop that drastically. Just 15-20-%. But yeah cooling systems have definitely gotten better. I wonder if the bolt EUV cooling is the same as the original Bolt EV
Thank you Tom for the excellent videos. 2017 bolt owner with 120000 miles and no issues with it even in harsh Canadian winters. FYI if you hook up an OBD you will get the precise state of charge info you are looking for in your range tests!
I've got a '21 Bolt, which should have the 66kWh battery. I recently charged the car to full and drove until the battery was almost depleted. When I plugged in, the charger was showing the SOC at 1%, and the info screen said I had used 59kWh. I'm thinking GM has 10% of my battery blocked off.
You should observe more than 60 kwh. Perhaps your battery needs to be cycled 100% to near 0% a couple of times to calibrate the BMS? The new battery in my 2017 delivered 63+ kwh in my 100-3% test.
@@dennislyon5412 I have the original battery. I'm thinking someone at GM reprogrammed the software as a safety measure until the car gets a battery replacement.
I have some points to say: - the GOM of the Bolt EV/EUV is made so that people be aware that starting 15% SOC they need to think to stop and charge. That’s why it changes to orange at 14.9 % SOC. The same as an ICEV (the redline), once you see orange, start to look for a recharge. As for the ICEV, you have about 20 miles left to empty. Don’t see why the need to know if the battery is 2% or 5%. Although you know. Because the gauge is in increments of 5%, so as long as you see 2 blocks, you are sure you have at least 5% SOC. - if you want to know the exact % of the SOC, use the MyChevrolet app linked to the car. You'll have it in 1% increments. - it’s great to see a Bolt EUV that has the shape of a box, is 15% more efficient than the Ioniq 5 - if you really want to know how much range you have after LOW, just remember LOW starts at 7%. You have the efficiency in the DIC. So you do the math : 3.6 x 65 x 0.07 = 16 miles. The MIN is 0.82 x Middle number = 13 miles. So that’s that. This is why you could get to the DCFC that was 12 miles away from the moment LOW appeared in your DIC P.S. I have a Bolt 2019 since 2018 and never felt the "range anxiety". I think "range anxiety" is a made up word by people who don’t know what they are doing. Hell, people talk about "range anxiety" even at 250 miles.
....yea, that car hits maybe epa rating IF you drive SUPER nicely. In winter, forget it. GM doesn't do proper thermal management in winter, just the bare minimums to call it thermal management. Also, if you still have the original pack like I do and software range locks, AND follow their ridiculous recommendations, you only get about 56miles range in winter. I get 140miles in winter for range, 10% top end locked out 126miles and GM recommends not to discharge below 70miles left lmao. I can't even go to work and back on that in winter without charging at work. Every other EV I had has been way better. The non thermal managed 2013 leaf dropped from 80-100miles range to 60-80miles in winter, the wife's Kona electric barely drops anything on charge rate or range. Bolt is a nightmare.
@@fookschool I am not sure what are you talking about. There were two things that GM advised (not even imposed) to mitigate the so call "fire hazard" : one, was to charge to 90% SOC and when possible, don't go lower than 70 miles (which is about 25% SOC). GM didn't say "avoid going under 70 miles". Reread your letter. The second one, a patch that limits the charge to 80% but you can go as low as SOC as you want. I didn't care of any of the two. I charged my battery to 100% SOC when needed and went as low of SOC I needed. The percentage of Bolt EV that got burned was 0.01x less than the probability of me getting covid. I got my battery replaced before the second patch was out and I wouldn't have done it either. As for the thermal management, I have no idea what are you talking about. The Bolt EV has one of the best thermal management systems, tailored to give a long life to the battery packs. There are out there already Bolt EV who have already 200 000 miles under their belt and with around 10-13% degradation. And yes, it's a reality, all the EV in cold temperature have a reduced range (varying from 30 to 40% in general). So yeah, if the EPA is 259 miles on the Bolt EV, you can see 150 miles during winter.
@@voldar70 holy crap you definitely do not own a Bolt. They locked the top 10% range from anyone that brought in the car for the first "fix" trying to avoid fires. THEN they found that fires still happened from low SOC but they could only suggest to never drop below 70miles of charge(no percentage, just miles). If you had a bolt and dealt with the idiots at gm "guiding" you through the ever changing recall process you would know this. Then your claim of "best thermal management" is a joke. They do the absolute bare minimum for cold temps. Look at actual range figures for EVERY other EV in winter. None of them drop as bad as the bolt does. Their management is only set up to keep the pack above freezing. THAT IS IT. You must be from California which is the reason I made the mistake of buying this car. Glorious reviews everywhere of spectacular range. Take the car to Michigan and tell me you still think this car is good. Like the subpar 55kw max charging speeds that drop to 38kw after 48-52% charge? Try 18-21kw for that same charge level in winter. Want the bolt to warm the pack up before quick charging? Oops, the software doesn't include that option. You are at the mercy of winter temps. Hmmm. Odd that the Kona electric which hovers around the same price does include that. Literally a few lines of code separates useful from dreadful. Idk how any of this can possibly confuse you, it is pretty straightforward and easy to follow.
@@voldar70 Ok, so you cant reply to a message? just fix your old messages to correct mistakes? You didnt address the disparity between winter range loss (in %) of every other EV compared to the bolt. They are not all 30-40% loss in winter vs summer. The average loss for teslas with heat pumps is 10-15%, kona I personally test at 22% loss. Bolt? 41% LOSS! how is that a respectable loss? I'm not knocking on the hardware that LG made (because almost the whole car is LG parts). LG did a good job. GM screwed up a surefire thing. The ONLY job GM had was to put the car together and write the software. And that is exactly where they failed. And I know my bolt inside and out. I have OVER 92,000 miles on it. Who cares if degradation isnt much if the car keeps losing features that were promised? The phone keypass...remember that? probably not, as they promised it, gave a partial almost useless solution and then ripped it away with an update. All remote functions are pulled and you have to use onstar to get that back...when it works, which is still hit or miss. I get screen glitches when starting, sometimes the backup camera locks up the screen, if I pull too much data on the OBD2 port the entire system crashes. You heard me right, it will crash just by pulling too much traffic on the OBD2 port. Is there anything that GM HASNT handicapped? Btw, very unhappy that I also have to use android auto to do anything with the car navigation wise vs my nissan leaf that has gps and navigation built in with charging availability. The kona has charger availability too. I'd keep going but I'm assuming you are so busy praising GM that you overlook absolutely everything that an actual GOOD EV has. You get what you pay for, which for the bolt isnt much.
@@fookschool curious why you don't just sell that crappy Bolt and buy a better EV? Prices for used are super high right now and you should do pretty well...no? Just curious. Mike 🇨🇦 🍁
You're exactly right about the driver assistance. Supercruise assists only when you don't need it to. In a Tesla it's nice to be able to actually use the system to assist you, otherwise what's the point. If a system is going to disable itself when I grab a candy bar or drink, I'd just go back to steering w my knee.
For people thinking about EV, remember you normally fill up your gas tank at about 1/4 tank. You do the same with an EV or if you get a Chevy they are offering home charger for free. I have a Level 2 charger at home and never leave without a full charge.
I’m so excited for my EUV it is on a train right now in Nebraska coming to California the updated delivery date is the 28th of this month nine days and counting, maybe sooner can’t wait for my Tesla killer
I couldn’t pass up the $6,300 rebate and took delivery of my EUV a few days ago. I’m loving the car so far. Thanks for all your videos!
Ours is 3 weeks old with over 1,200 miles on it and I haven't had to pay to recharge it once. I love having a free destination charger at work and Chevy paying for the NEMA 14-50 plug to be installed at my house for level 2 charging in a couple weeks.
My parents are looking at getting a Bolt EUV and I keep hearing great things, the only three knocks I have heard in research is fast charging (it’s a daily commute car so non factor), small arm rest and seats aren’t dry comfortable? Are the seats and arm rest that bad?
@@rtkn04 Both are just fine to me. I don’t plan on ever needing to use Level 3 fast charging as I only drive 35 miles round trip to work with this car. It’s an amazing car. They will love it!
@@rtkn04 - the 22/23 have much more comfortable seats
We have had a Bolt EUV Premiere on order since mid April...have no idea when or if GM will ever deliver! The funny part is the vehicle used in the test is the exact vehicle we ordered (minus the super cruise) right down to the colour! One of these days....sigh!
Mike 🇨🇦 🍁
Hi, not sure if you know, I kind of thought it was common knowledge but each of those light green and darker green bars represents 5% charge, so when 5 of those bars are gone that’s minus 25% state of charge.
my 2022 bolt euv will not charge past 80% how did you get yours to 100%
check your settings in the energy tab, under CHARGING You can set the max percentage with the slider on the battery icon.
I should say the only time this is a problem which is like in California do you have to pay by the minute by the kilowatt it’s fair
Tom: "I'm all for driver monitoring."
Tom: "This driver monitoring is driving me crazy."
This car is already obsolete. It's on the old BEV2 platform. All GM EVs going forward will be on the Ultium platform. It will be a nightmare to find parts for this car in the future. I'm waiting for the Equinox EV. I really like my 14 Equinox and can't wait to see the production EV version.
No discount for Canadians. Screw GM!
The $6,300 price cut on the EUV and the $5,900 on the EV are retroactive on any 22 model that have been sold since January 1st also. This is per the Chevy Website.
And if you read the fine print, by accepting the rebate from GM you are forgoing your right to sue them if the batteries catch fire.
@@tjs114 you do realize that only pertains to the current recall on the recalled batteries, not if there is any future unrelated issues to this recall.
I just found this statement from GM clarifying it only pertains to existing litigation( as in the class action lawsuit)
“The agreement for the reimbursement program does contain language that waives claims against GM and identifies existing litigation. This is a common practice when it comes to programs like this. It does not waive claims involving any potential recalls in the future.”
Nice work Tom. I recently purchased a 22 Bolt EV and am really enjoying it! I listen to you and the other guys every Friday on the Inside EV's podcast. Keep up the great work
@@gmv0553 I was simply offering my opinion of the styling - I don't like how it looks. I'm allowed to like and dislike styling, right? I never trashed the Blazer - I think a LOT of people will love it, but I don't. However, I am looking forward to the Equinox EV, I may get that for my wife. We owned a gas Equinox for 7 years and loved it.
Was visiting my brother for 10 days he has this car. Was going 65 mph got 280 miles of range. Drove 240 and 40 miles left of range. Very jealous of the range. Done over 1000 miles on this car. Never needed to use DC charger. This is the only downfall this car. I wish it was more than 50kw DC charger, but never needed to use it. Back seats are great.
Were you driving downhill for your tests? I don't believe your results otherwise
@@macbook802 I drove from Charlton New York to Stewart Airport.
Don't really care if you believe or not. Here is the facts!
@@macbook802 facts
Change the view of the instrument screen to the “advanced” view. It doesn’t give you a number still but there are clear alternating green dark green bars that are in 5% increments. It also gives you the kw power numbers you are using or regenerating.
I mean, it's not like an ICE vehicle has a numerical count of how many gallons of gas you have left. It's either a gauge or miles to empty just like this.
@@RadzPrower You do expect an electric car to operate like an electronic gadget in some ways, though. Every smartphone/tablet/laptop shows its battery percentage on demand. So why not the same with an electric car?
@@gparyani A lot of devices don't show you a percentage at all and many more don't by default. I know if I pick up my wife's iPhone, the taskbar doesn't show me the percentage number.
@@RadzPrower I said "on demand". On iOS if you drag up for the Control Center you can see it. On Windows PCs, you can put your mouse over the battery icon.
@@gparyani I've got controllers, earbuds, etc. that don't directly tell you your charge level either. They can be determined by external devices, but such is the case with the Bolt as well.
The value proposition for the Bolt lineup is basically unbeatable.
The stealerships will ruin that for Chevy. Mark-ups will be crazy.
It is inexpensive. That holds true for all buyers, but value depends on your needs. If you plan to take frequent long road trips, this has a lower value. If all of the drawbacks that come with the lower price do not affect you, then this has great value!
Yes, but when can u actually buy one? Chevy doesn’t have a delivery time
@@JohnSmith-qj7hd In 2025 when GM is making more EVs than Tesla 😂🤣🤣🤣
@@TheLastMoccasin let’s hope so! Out of all the dealers I’ve been in contact with gm seems to know the least about production times or availability. So hopefully they have it sorted out by then
Hey Tom, I just picked up an EUV last night and I agree with your sentiment about no percentage display.. terrible move from GM. I have however found a way to see it and that's in the My Chevrolet app. I know that's not ideal but hey it's something. BTW I bought the charge point 50A home charger on your advice so thanks for all your hard work testing all those EVSE units. 👍 I should have waited until the end to comment 🤣. My super Cruise doesn't seem to be as sensitive as that one your driving. I wonder if it's all software or maybe a hardware calibration too. One last thing I heard you talking about GM installing the home chargers with Bolt purchases on the podcast and I can confirm they are still offering that for up to $1000 towards the cost of it, since I already had the ChargePoint unit from my previous car they gave me $500 in EvGo charging credit.
Love my 2022 EUV. It's identical to the one you drove in this video, minus the supercruise. I've been able to get about 4.0 mi/kWh at 70-72 MPH with AC on by upping the tire pressure to 41 all-around VS the sticker's 38 PSI for better ride. Interesting, is the Bolt EUV & Volt use identical tires, same size dimensions, and they're nearly identical in weight, but the Volt has a higher recommended tire pressure.
tpm really works just wear your tires out faster tho
That’s an interesting tidbit, thanks Dan.
Do you ride with 41 psi year round (all seasons)? What state are you driving in?
I also own a 2022 Bolt EUV living in Western NC where we benefit from Appalachia mountains. We have a lifetime avg of 4.2 miles/kWh over 4,300 miles. From April - July. I expect that avg to come down in winter months. We also avg closer to 50 mph as we do less hwy driving. ICE vehicles do poorer in higher altitudes based on barometric pressure - no issue though for EVs of course as they don’t rely on oxygen for propulsion.
I was able to bump my efficiency from 4.0 up to 4.2 mi/kWh in my 2019 Nissan Leaf by switching my tires to Nokian Entyre 2.0. I got the idea from Nikki over at Transport Evolved. I wonder if they would make a difference for the Bolt EUV as well.
maybe caused by weight difference?
The cherry red tincoat is my favorite color of the Bolt/EUV...and difficult to find out here in AZ!
I really do like these cars. They offer a lot for younger families that may want to go ev without committing to a 50k price tag or more. Honestly very impressed and can’t wait to see the fast charging.
i bought a 2017 bolt with 23k miles an a new battery as a commuter vehicle but after 3 weeks of driving it, i went out to my sonata an it wont even turn over, i guess 3 weeks was too long for it to sit...... its a fun little suv easy parking, fast when needed..
I've been able to drive my Bolt to the point that there are no bars left on the battery charge meter. I'd bet he could have squeezed another 10 - 15 mile from that charge.
The GOM on my first EV - a Gen 1 Leaf 30kWh - would do something similar when it was getting towards an empty battery...
It would be at, maybe, 9 miles left, then, within a matter of yards, suddenly change to the dreaded 3 dashes ---...!!
Like you said, really frustrating.
Hey, not that we get the Bolt EV / EUV in the UK, but that seems pretty much all the EV that 99% of the population would ever need - an affordable 'family' car with around 3 hours' worth of (highway) driving range before you stop for a 'comfort break' and recharge.
Those EV-skeptics who pronounce, "I'll only get an electric car when it'll do 600 miles on a charge - just like my petrol / diesel car..." are just nuts - 600 miles (at least here in the UK) would take around 10 hours of non-stop driving... who on Earth can hold their pee in for 10 hours...!! 🤣
You don’t get it.
The range on a vehicle like this is OK for most people most of the time, but the charging time is on these is too slow for road trips.
People don’t want to charge for 60 to 90 minutes every 2 to 3 hours on a road trip.
A 60 minute charge might be OK for some if you could drive for at least 4 hours (around 280 miles at 70MPH)) and we’re going to take an entire hour to eat lunch and there was actually some place you wanted to eat conveniently right next to the charging station. Often there is no place good to eat next to the charging station on a road trip. So, you still need to make a separate stop to eat or just go through a drive through and eat in the car.
These cars charge way to slowly to get useful range added during between meal bathroom breaks.
@19:34 this is my only complaint about my EUV. This happened once, and it was not helpful and very stressful. Would love an update to address this.
Another good video, Tom.
I have been surprised by the Bolt's modest sales ever since they first showed up at dealers in 2018. I've driven one and it's a great little car that is very quick around town. The first two years had not the best seats but that got better. With the new price this car is really an incredible deal.
The modest sales are due to the modest production numbers. GM right from the beginning said they would only make 30,000 per year, with the theoretical possibility of making as many as 50,000/year.
I never liked the Bolt EV. When I saw the first Bolt EUV, I thought it was just the new model year EV, resuming production after the battery issue was sorted out.
I was wrong on both of those points. Two confusingly similar names, it should be a different name, but that's in keeping with Volt Bolt Bolt EV Bolt EUV.
And the 2022 EUV might need a replacement battery.
When it came time to get a car, we ditched the gas altogether, kept our 2013 LEAF, and bought a 2023 Bolt EUV LT.
Love the coverage of lower cost EVs , I know there's only so much you can talk about Chevy bolts and leaf, but the expensive stuff is out of the question for me
Love the Chevy Bolt EUV best EV on the market for the feature list and the price point.
I’ve seen you countless times on Alex‘s channel and to be perfectly honest I think it’s the most valuable part of his programs. I finally just went straight to yours and it’s outstanding. I probably watch 3 to 4 hours of Tesla TH-cam videos a day as I am working, perhaps more some days and I have always found yours to be outstanding in the crowd. This one is no exception. Keep up the good work Tom
Thank you! - Tom
Great video👍. Every time I see one of those tests I realise how efficient the Lucid is. 4.3 miles per kwh from a large, obese, 900+ hp car is nothing short of outstanding 👌. Good job chevy...coming along nicely 👏
Yes, it is amazing
Great test as always Tom!!!
How’s the seats compared to old Bolt? ( comfort was big issue on old Bolts)…
Q: why wasn’t this on State of Charge?
The seats in the 22 Bolt are mich improved. Just did a 500 mile road trip over the last two days and the seats were very comfortable. Having been in previous year Bolts I find the new ones are just fine
They are better, but I still consider them near the bottom of the list of all the seats in all of the EVs that I've tested.
I find the seats to be very comfortable
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Chevy to show the distance to empty when the battery is low. It's something Chevy has been doing since 2011 with the Chevy Volt. After the Battery is depleted and the gas tank is below a quarter tank all predictive range goes away and the gas gauge only shows "Low". You have no idea how much range is left in the gas tank! I agree it would help with range anxiety but at least they keep it fair and don't show the range in the gas tank either. Cheers!
Great video and very informative. I have been researching EVs recently. I like the Ford Lightning but there's no way I'm paying for the insane dealer markups. I'm willing to wait until supply catches up with demand.
Bolt owner here. Lets say the battery blocks show 80%. Once the block drops to 75% it is 75% and wont drop to 70% until it reaches 70%. So as long as you notice as soon as it drops that will be that number as the blocks are in 5% increments.
Great job sir. I always love these videos. I just traded my Bolt in for the ID.4 2022 with the new software. I am sad as the Bolt is really fun to drive. But like you said we use it for travels.
2022 EUV owner. it would be an incredible value if an additional $7500 point of sale credit is applied after 1/1/2023 - if approved by congress.
Just ordered the 2023 version last week, premier was $33k. Though, it took quite a few dealers to find one that charged only msrp. Went with the euv over the regular bolt as we desperately need the additional space in the rear seat. Soooo excited about getting ours!
I also ordered 2023 bolt euv last week! But I'm not sure when it will arrive! Calculated by msrp price
The GM Dealerships are adding on extra costs and are ripping off consumers. That is a no go for me. Not dealing with thieves. GM dealers are corrupt.
WHY?? The bolt already has a huge backseat on the normal version. You are giving up the already small cargo space on it for even more second row space
I own a 17 and love it! And this video is Almost exactly how mine performs!
I've been waiting for this one Tom, thanks plan to get one in the fall.
If Chevy included ventilated seats in the basic Bolt EV it would be a perfect choice; but since it is over 100F almost daily between May and October where I live, the EUV is the only choice.
Hello Tom. Great video. I like seeing range test in these smaller EV’s. Have you ever done a range test on the Hyundai Kona and Kia Niro EV? I would love to see how all those small EV’s perform in a range test.
Tom, thanks! I am also bothered by no digital SoC readout on my e-Golf so use an OBDIi dongle and software. Have you considered doing this, too? It would also enable you to record pack temperature, power output, etc.
My Bolt has serious issues when I do real time data while driving. Entire systems on the car flake out and shut down. Be prepared to pull the dongle and restart lol.
@@fookschool weird. My e-Golf works fine with multiple OBDII apps and I even get real time digital SoC using ABRP.
Wonder why you choose 70 mph? I talked to the owner of one of the first Bolts I ever saw and he said he could get 300 mile range by driving at 50 mph. Too slow and possibly too dangerous for me. I tend to drive both our EVs at 65 mph. I see Teslas crusing along at 65 too. I've heard best compromise between range and speed is 58 mph?
Bolt gets very efficient as the average speed drops below 70 mph. Super efficient at 60 or so mph.
The charge gauge gives a pretty good indication of state of charge. I know its not numeric but my EV gauge is incremented in 5% intervals so I find that is enough to get a pretty good idea where my charge is.
if you go into your my Chevy app it gives you the percentage of your battery
Wanted to note I've been driving the bolt euv premiere with super cruise for the last month and I absolutely love super cruise. I haven't found the infrared camera altert system to bothersome personally. If I look away for about 3-5 seconds it requires you to take over control. If you need to read something, you can hold it just below the camera on steering wheel with no monitoring actions. Looking to the side and reading something or holding up an object in front of eyes will activate system. Another thing I've found, not that I do this often. But with my sunglasses. I can shut my eyes and the system doesn't beep at me. Maybe it has to do with the polarized lenses of maui jims sunglasses.
exactly right on the sunglasses! Its a "cheat"
Love your range tests! I own a Bolt [not EUV] and I absolutely love it
Thank you Mr. Tom Molougheny for this great 70 mph range test and for keeping it interesting with your take on the quarks of the UI and Super Cruise. I have seen many of your great, detailed, informative DCFC charging curves on other EVs and would be interested in the DCFC curve of this 2022 Bolt EUV. Will that be coming soon? Thank you and keep up your great work!
its more anxiety-inducing seeing %
I've owned 2 Bolts and for reason I still can't wrap my head around I get WILDLY different consumption from day to day. I've taken highway road trips where I got upwards of 4.2-4.5 miles/kw over a full charge and some as low as 2.2 for the same trip. I had a spark ev and it was MUCH more predictable. My only guess is maybe the battery conditioning system... anyway, I was actually a little bit excited about the EUV until I saw the charge rate. The new price is great...but still with the charge rate it makes road trips pretty rough.
Thank you! Finally! another bolt owner that gets it. I have the same issues. Absolutely no consistency. If I had to guess, the battery management does nothing until the battery hits extremes either high or low. I will see 10% range difference just with a 15f temp change outside. No ac or heating and same trip and speed. The charge rate is horrific as well. It has to be perfect weather and very low(but not too low) state of charge to get a decent rate(54-55kw PEAK). In winter, forget quick charging altogether....it just cant do it. Wifes kona electric is now our main car and it is night and day difference. I get almost on the dot range and charging rates are SUPER predictable. I reset my mi/kwh recently and am getting 3.8-4.0 right now generally driving between 52-60mph. her car? 4.4mi/kwh @ 60-65mph. And I can get that every single time. I tried to pull data on the OBD2 port to see it in real time on the bolt and the system freaked out stability control shut off, went in and out of turtle mode, traction control turned off, basically the whole system crashed. I restarted it fine and I can pull data while parked but NOT while driving lmao. That was a first for me. I've done it on the prius and nissan leaf with no problems...
btw, Do you live in a cold climate? curious what range and efficiency you get in cold weather.
Great video. Thanks!
I've seen the 2022 Bolts are getting $6,600 cash on the hood right now to match up with 2023 pricing.
Great test. I really enjoy your range tests. Please keep them coming....
The camera in the center of the steering column must be able to "see" your eyes with Super Cruise engaged. You probably blocked the camera while holding the wrapper. My wife often drinks from a water bottle while using the Super Cruise. She has found if SHE can't see the camera, IT can't see her eyes - and will disengage. NO system is perfect. When you understand that, it's easy to avoid actions which interfere with it. Realistically, looking away from the road ahead of you for a few seconds in normal freeway driving is often a deadly action. I think it's a VERY well designed and SAFE self-driving feature.
In highway driving, You will never get mesmerized by the road as much , if you look away for a second or two occasionally
@@MolloRelax Look away for a second or two ONLY in VERY light traffic. But in rush hour traffic, use peripheral vision, and never remove your vision/attention from ahead of you... even for a second. That's how freeway pileups happen. If you're tired, get off the road, park and rest. Otherwise you're a danger to yourself AND innocent drivers around you. 😊
@@nortonnewmann3711 I NEVER said anything about rush hour..... you did! I have been driving for 50+ years. As my comment is about highway driving , your reply is kinda useless to me. But thanks for reminding the beginner drivers out there, with their eyes on their phones half the time...from what I notice a lot. They are the next pile-ups initiators.
thanks Tom for the EUV range test
Tom, I don’t like your videos. I love them.
How are we in 2022 almost 2023..... and GM still puts in those 1950's Fisher-Price display screens?
Ever consider a real world range test? Here in West FL, average highway speed is 80 on the highways and that would be with AC on almost year round and radio and ventilated seats on as well.
3.65 miles/kwh is ~123 mpg. Impressive!
What.. no, 280 miles, it costs $4.5 to charge at home in NY. That's 280 mpg.
In my neck of the woods, 70 mph is generally a dream. My speeds are more like 55. Would love to see a range test at 55.
With new $7500 tax credits supposedly coming the Bolt would be around $20k (if you have a $7.5k tax liability! THANK YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN & DEMOCRATS!!!
better was 15k for ev under 40k cost help alot buyer been 7,500 usd long time . biden give you a same bone. but if want ev fly of the showroom should 25k before the rebate then ppl buy it . way if was 15 k go too 40k have price down too 25k .
2022 Kia Rio Price: $16,250
Fuel Economy: 36 mpg .. price should be for ev . 2022 Mitsubishi Mirage Fuel Economy: 39 mpg . 2022 Hyundai Accent Fuel Economy: 36 mpg . as you see new 2022 gas car way better get 400 too 431 mpg . see tell ev,s on save mpg rating ppl wpon,t buy it . cost way base bolt 25 too 30 k . say 225 mpg way most drivers work and have family.
Price: $23,750
Fuel Economy: 52 mpg for a 2022 Toyota Corolla Hybrid 520 around 520 miles . 2022 Hyundai Ioniq Fuel Economy: 59 mpg Price: $23,600 way better ev say under 300 miles . ev longer way too go reach gas car miles.
I ordered a 2023 EUV. The dealership said that Bolt EVs are very rare and Chevy appears to be pushing and producing the EUV.
Amazing, you got the same range that they say it gives you. What would the range be if you had it in L instead of D?
no change. L is just single pedal driving where regen is mapped to the first 1/3 of the accelerator instead of mapped to the brake. It is convenience more than anything. Coasting saves more power than regen.
Appreciate the European (pretty much most of the world) translation. :) Could be on screen also for distances, thank you.
It's two types of Premiere Bolts, this is the one, the other you get better wheels, folding mirrors, etc
A range test in cold and heat would also be handy. I was just driving my new Bolt EV in 104F yesterday and I was only getting 1.6 to 2 miles per kWh. After flipping off the air cond and driving on city streets I ended up with 6.4 miles kWh.
The turning radius of the Bolt LT is tighter too (shorter). In San Francisco, that's a golden thing. The EUV is 1/2" taller than the Bolt LT. I like the front end of the EUV better. If they had made the Bolt LT with the EUV front end, that would have been as show stopper. I've noticed that if I keep the speed below 65, the range goes way up. Keep it at 55 and you can get 300 miles in warm weather.
Tom: your energy economy is closer to 3.65 mi/kWh. If you take the total distance travel divided by the energy consumed, you get 3.64 mi/kWh. You get a higher precision, because distance and energy consumption were measured with more decimal places.
GM does that "no more mileage display when low" thing with their gas vehicles too. When my Silverado drops to 50 miles, it stops giving you a number. And yeah, thats f-ed up. Not sure what moron at GM decided that was the thing, probably the same guy who decided to name the cars (Volt, Bolt; EV, EUV) with easily confused names to minimize sales.
Hey Tom: great video with useful observations about SuperCruise! It would be great to know more about what you consider when doing your range tests since different temperatures, weather conditions, use of climate control and regenerative braking will all affect range. I think it’s worth noting to viewers that (unlike gas cars), stop-and-go driving in an EV with regeneration is likely to increase range compared to non-stop 70mph without braking.
'and for our friends in Europe, or anyone else who follows the metric system.' You mean literally the whole planet except the U.S., Liberia and Myanmar? Haha.
GM has already admitted the Bolt makes no profit, and they are lowering the price again in 2023? Yikes. Interesting business model over there.
My 2022 bolt EUV only gives me at the most 220 with an empty vehicle and about 80% outside at the speed limit. I would say that GM lied by saying that it is a 247 mile range just to show as comparable to the other EUVs.
My Toyota RAV4 hybrid shuts off the "miles left" at 10 also.........I assume this may be normal for many Toyotas.
Great video and range test. When you are using super cruise, the bar on the steering wheel will blink to warn you that it thinks you are not paying attention and then do some other things like an audible voice warning before disengaging. I think the disengagements you were getting were from the car not being able to see the lines. Sometimes really bright sun will cause mine to disengage.
The sensitivity regarding the cruise control highlights nicely the difference between a company like GM and Tesla. Tesla, not having been around the block as long as GM, made a system with potential safety issues they either ignored or didn’t have the expertise / institutional knowledge to foresee. Whereas GM, having been around the block much longer and likely more risk averse, was perhaps conservative in their design.
We recently just purchased a Bolt EUV LT for my wife. We’ve been happy with it so far. There are some things about the user interface that I wish my Tesla had but you’re right about not having a percentage anywhere. We don’t plan to road trip but I do think the charging speed for DC is abysmal
Please include an interior review. I'm a big guy so would like to know if I'll be comfortable. Manufacturer interior view isn't helpful.
My first electric car had a range of 64 miles per charge. My 2023 Chevy bolt EUV will go 310 miles on surface streets on a full charge. I get zero range anxiety because my first electric car had such a relatively short range.
Interesting that even the lengthened EUV version is still 5 inches shorter in length than the LEAF. I was hoping it would be larger.
I seems like the "Super Cruise" implemented in the bolts are not safe since they disengage the moment you look away without any warning. Maybe people with the feature should file a suit together against GM to either update the software to make it safer/usable or to get their money back...
Other than the percentage of the battery charge - the display in the Bolt EV/EUV is *the* *best* display of information about the way you're driving and the range, etc.
I thought Super Cruise flashes first if you’re not paying attention… and doesn’t just shut off? It says in manual it gives a warning not just stops. Does it do that?
Wow just shutting off is not good, I was thinking that a better system like supercruise would be helpful in the event of a heart attack or stroke or something by a controlled stop rather then letting you careen off the highway
your funny the tires are specific.... all the bolts get the 17" wheels an same tires...
I should say the only time this is a problem which is like in California do you have to pay by the minute by the kilowatt it’s fair
If you want just a basic ev that gets you from here to there buy anything but a Tesla. You may be paying morr for less.
That's a GM thing. My gas car went to 50 m to empty. Then.. would only say low fuel
It'd be cool if someone would do a range test video at different speeds to try to find the optimal speed for getting to your destination in the least amount of time factoring in range and charging time.
Good price but we have to still find a dealer that won't jack up the price with "market adjustments". Chevy should go the way Ford is going with its EV line. Direct to consumers and cut out these shyster dealerships altogether.
They did lower the price 6k but we also lost the 7500 from credit
19:45 I actually think that setting is fine in the Bolt EV/EUV because, unlike most other EVs, when the Bolt hits 0%, it's done. Continuing to provide a range estimate with so little actual driving range remaining is a serious liability as it could result in people losing propulsion or getting stuck in compromising situations.
As a Chevy Volt driver that has the same system, I can vouch for it being very annoying. I end up resetting my trip meter when right when it says low so I know how many mile I actually have left. I’m glad that when it’s done it’s done but I wish it went all the way to zero still. That’s a Chevy thing as a whole though and it’s quite annoying.
@@_cjmccullough The Chevy Volt operates differently. At least in all the models that I've owned/driven. When the battery is done, it simply transitions to the ICE.
The biggest issue with the Bolt (and Volt, too) is that the display doesn't show percentage. The Range Estimator is a nice option, but only knowing the battery level within 5% increments isn't good enough. And that's really the issue. It's not the transitioning to "Low" under 5% battery: it's not have 1% increments.
@@newscoulomb3705 the Volt does the same thing as the Bolt whether it’s gas or Electric. When it’s almost empty it just says low and instead of how many miles are truly left which is the annoying part. Sure the Volt is a plug-in hybrid but the system is the exact same. And it’s very similar in many other Chevy products.
Plus it would be great to see the actual percentage as well and the miles but we get neither below 5%. That’s got to be fixed.
@@_cjmccullough Do you have a second-generation Volt? I don't recall the "Low" before transitioning to gas. My first generation Volt's always did it abruptly.
Regardless, as I said, I think this was an intentional design on the Bolt EV/EUV that I personally agree with. When there's zero accessible buffer after 0% (possibly unique to the Bolt), it makes sense to simply state that you are extremely low on range under 5%. If you hadn't already mapped out your distance before it switched over, you're being extremely reckless (something GM probably doesn't want to encourage).
The reason it's a pain for Tom is simply because he's trying to test down to exactly 0%, so for that, it's an inconvenience. Meanwhile, in the real-world my Bolt EV and others I've reviewed, I've arrived at a number of chargers in the middle of nowhere with between 0% and 5% battery, and every time the Range Estimator switched over to "Low," I had already mapped out arrival to my destination within a mile or less.
@@newscoulomb3705 Yes I have the second generation Volt 2017
I don't think the range of the Bolt matters too much considering its limited fast-charging speed capability. It's not quite a road tripper. That's some good efficiency at speed though. It'll get ya from San Diego up to the mountains around LA though with enough room to spare to get back to a fast-charger on the way back.
I will be using mine to go from Buffalo to Syracuse and there and back is only 35 minute charge needed . I also use it to go to Toronto from buffalo and it can do that on a full charge.
Just traded in my truck on a EUV LT. Get to pick it up in one week
I’ve been waiting for this video and the bolt EUV definitely packs a punch and is great value for money, plus it has a lot of luxury features that many other expensive cars don’t have like super cruise, ventilated seats, and probably the best display on the market for understanding where your range is being hit from and what’s using the most battery. It just sucks that the charging speed is so slow for road tripping. For 90% of driving that takes place at home this is probably the best range for the money especially since it typically gets more than what the EPA claims in mixed driving, around 275-300 miles.
Try 200 miles average in Michigan. Winter is a solid 100miles less than epa. DC fast charging also SIGNIFICANTLY drops in winter from max of 55kw (before crazy taper at 52%) down to 20-25kw "quick" charge rates.
@@fookschool 200 miles is the average that most of the higher prices cars get on a regular trip aside from Tesla, lucid, and Mercedes, so thats not bad. Plus all electric cars take a massive hit in the winter so I still think its good value for money and probably the best option out there. But it definitely suffers from slow charging speeds which would suck on a road trip but that barely ever happens so its not a big concern because you can just charge at home
@@_cjmccullough I have a Kona EV and a 2013 Nissan leaf as well. Neither one drops range so drastically in winter. The leaf goes from 80-100miles down to 60-80miles and the Kona doesn't even go below 200. Also Kona doesn't lose much charge rate either. If you never had another electric car the bolt seems great and you figure this is normal, but the bolt thermal management is worse than the air cooled leaf battery lol. Low temp performance is horrific because the bolt doesn't keep batteries any higher than bare minimum. LG did their part. GM did the worst software.
@@fookschool exactly I knew it didn’t drop that drastically. Just 15-20-%. But yeah cooling systems have definitely gotten better. I wonder if the bolt EUV cooling is the same as the original Bolt EV
I got 280 miles out my brother's last week while visiting. His top model. Lots of bells and whistles. All electric cars lose range in winter.
Bolt owners, look into Torque Pro for SoC%.
Thank you Tom for the excellent videos. 2017 bolt owner with 120000 miles and no issues with it even in harsh Canadian winters. FYI if you hook up an OBD you will get the precise state of charge info you are looking for in your range tests!
I've got a '21 Bolt, which should have the 66kWh battery. I recently charged the car to full and drove until the battery was almost depleted. When I plugged in, the charger was showing the SOC at 1%, and the info screen said I had used 59kWh. I'm thinking GM has 10% of my battery blocked off.
You should observe more than 60 kwh. Perhaps your battery needs to be cycled 100% to near 0% a couple of times to calibrate the BMS? The new battery in my 2017 delivered 63+ kwh in my 100-3% test.
@@dennislyon5412 I have the original battery. I'm thinking someone at GM reprogrammed the software as a safety measure until the car gets a battery replacement.
Thanks for your video, it gives alot of insight!
Thank you for another greatly informative video!
I wonder fully ceramic window tint will improve range
I have some points to say:
- the GOM of the Bolt EV/EUV is made so that people be aware that starting 15% SOC they need to think to stop and charge. That’s why it changes to orange at 14.9 % SOC. The same as an ICEV (the redline), once you see orange, start to look for a recharge. As for the ICEV, you have about 20 miles left to empty. Don’t see why the need to know if the battery is 2% or 5%. Although you know. Because the gauge is in increments of 5%, so as long as you see 2 blocks, you are sure you have at least 5% SOC.
- if you want to know the exact % of the SOC, use the MyChevrolet app linked to the car. You'll have it in 1% increments.
- it’s great to see a Bolt EUV that has the shape of a box, is 15% more efficient than the Ioniq 5
- if you really want to know how much range you have after LOW, just remember LOW starts at 7%. You have the efficiency in the DIC. So you do the math : 3.6 x 65 x 0.07 = 16 miles. The MIN is 0.82 x Middle number = 13 miles. So that’s that. This is why you could get to the DCFC that was 12 miles away from the moment LOW appeared in your DIC
P.S. I have a Bolt 2019 since 2018 and never felt the "range anxiety". I think "range anxiety" is a made up word by people who don’t know what they are doing. Hell, people talk about "range anxiety" even at 250 miles.
....yea, that car hits maybe epa rating IF you drive SUPER nicely. In winter, forget it. GM doesn't do proper thermal management in winter, just the bare minimums to call it thermal management. Also, if you still have the original pack like I do and software range locks, AND follow their ridiculous recommendations, you only get about 56miles range in winter. I get 140miles in winter for range, 10% top end locked out 126miles and GM recommends not to discharge below 70miles left lmao. I can't even go to work and back on that in winter without charging at work. Every other EV I had has been way better. The non thermal managed 2013 leaf dropped from 80-100miles range to 60-80miles in winter, the wife's Kona electric barely drops anything on charge rate or range. Bolt is a nightmare.
@@fookschool I am not sure what are you talking about. There were two things that GM advised (not even imposed) to mitigate the so call "fire hazard" : one, was to charge to 90% SOC and when possible, don't go lower than 70 miles (which is about 25% SOC). GM didn't say "avoid going under 70 miles". Reread your letter. The second one, a patch that limits the charge to 80% but you can go as low as SOC as you want.
I didn't care of any of the two. I charged my battery to 100% SOC when needed and went as low of SOC I needed. The percentage of Bolt EV that got burned was 0.01x less than the probability of me getting covid. I got my battery replaced before the second patch was out and I wouldn't have done it either.
As for the thermal management, I have no idea what are you talking about. The Bolt EV has one of the best thermal management systems, tailored to give a long life to the battery packs. There are out there already Bolt EV who have already 200 000 miles under their belt and with around 10-13% degradation. And yes, it's a reality, all the EV in cold temperature have a reduced range (varying from 30 to 40% in general). So yeah, if the EPA is 259 miles on the Bolt EV, you can see 150 miles during winter.
@@voldar70 holy crap you definitely do not own a Bolt. They locked the top 10% range from anyone that brought in the car for the first "fix" trying to avoid fires. THEN they found that fires still happened from low SOC but they could only suggest to never drop below 70miles of charge(no percentage, just miles). If you had a bolt and dealt with the idiots at gm "guiding" you through the ever changing recall process you would know this. Then your claim of "best thermal management" is a joke. They do the absolute bare minimum for cold temps. Look at actual range figures for EVERY other EV in winter. None of them drop as bad as the bolt does. Their management is only set up to keep the pack above freezing. THAT IS IT. You must be from California which is the reason I made the mistake of buying this car. Glorious reviews everywhere of spectacular range. Take the car to Michigan and tell me you still think this car is good. Like the subpar 55kw max charging speeds that drop to 38kw after 48-52% charge? Try 18-21kw for that same charge level in winter. Want the bolt to warm the pack up before quick charging? Oops, the software doesn't include that option. You are at the mercy of winter temps. Hmmm. Odd that the Kona electric which hovers around the same price does include that. Literally a few lines of code separates useful from dreadful. Idk how any of this can possibly confuse you, it is pretty straightforward and easy to follow.
@@voldar70 Ok, so you cant reply to a message? just fix your old messages to correct mistakes? You didnt address the disparity between winter range loss (in %) of every other EV compared to the bolt. They are not all 30-40% loss in winter vs summer. The average loss for teslas with heat pumps is 10-15%, kona I personally test at 22% loss. Bolt? 41% LOSS! how is that a respectable loss? I'm not knocking on the hardware that LG made (because almost the whole car is LG parts). LG did a good job. GM screwed up a surefire thing. The ONLY job GM had was to put the car together and write the software. And that is exactly where they failed. And I know my bolt inside and out. I have OVER 92,000 miles on it. Who cares if degradation isnt much if the car keeps losing features that were promised? The phone keypass...remember that? probably not, as they promised it, gave a partial almost useless solution and then ripped it away with an update. All remote functions are pulled and you have to use onstar to get that back...when it works, which is still hit or miss. I get screen glitches when starting, sometimes the backup camera locks up the screen, if I pull too much data on the OBD2 port the entire system crashes. You heard me right, it will crash just by pulling too much traffic on the OBD2 port. Is there anything that GM HASNT handicapped? Btw, very unhappy that I also have to use android auto to do anything with the car navigation wise vs my nissan leaf that has gps and navigation built in with charging availability. The kona has charger availability too. I'd keep going but I'm assuming you are so busy praising GM that you overlook absolutely everything that an actual GOOD EV has. You get what you pay for, which for the bolt isnt much.
@@fookschool curious why you don't just sell that crappy Bolt and buy a better EV? Prices for used are super high right now and you should do pretty well...no?
Just curious.
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You're exactly right about the driver assistance. Supercruise assists only when you don't need it to. In a Tesla it's nice to be able to actually use the system to assist you, otherwise what's the point. If a system is going to disable itself when I grab a candy bar or drink, I'd just go back to steering w my knee.
thanks Tom!
You forgot to mention the ventilated seat
Thank you, Tom!
For people thinking about EV, remember you normally fill up your gas tank at about 1/4 tank. You do the same with an EV or if you get a Chevy they are offering home charger for free. I have a Level 2 charger at home and never leave without a full charge.
I’m so excited for my EUV it is on a train right now in Nebraska coming to California the updated delivery date is the 28th of this month nine days and counting, maybe sooner can’t wait for my Tesla killer