Let’s see who ends up watching the video the entire way thru Im ngl a lot of the comments I read were MAD funny, but I won’t change my first impression on Rinascita and its characters in terms of designs or other aspects until the patch releases, this is the last time ima make a video on the topic but making these types of videos is mad funny unfortunately I ain’t a drama channel and don’t intend to be so this is unironically my last video on the matter. Next vid on that global sync process and how it could attract them DMC mfs, if you know you know. Take care everybody, peace peace.
This isn't a WuWa-only problem. Have you ever heard of "Genshin could never"? Yep. That term came from the Honkai Star Rail community. The next open-world gacha games will have the anti-Genshin mob flock to it.
Having a second opinion that may diverge from a common consensus is what keeps discussions about the things we love alive and for that reason, I think channels like this one are invaluable. It brings a different angle of perspective which might not have been considered before; that can be pretty insightful. Entertaining, too.
The gacha community seems to think that revenue determines how good a game is. I like the direction that WuWa is going with Rinascita. Huanglong being dark and depressing makes sense, as it didn't recover that well from the lament, and is constantly under threat. Rinascita being more bright and cheerful shows us that some regions were able to recover better than others, and that theres still hope.
Idk why do we even talk about this. Is that classic case of minority being the loudest, most people are not taking sides and couldn't care less about any drama. Most people enjoy whatever they want.
Wuthering Waves community are 50% or 60% full of Genshin fans lmao, most PGR Players stick to PGR for the reason that it genuinely runs a lot better than WuWa because WuWa runs on Unreal Engine which is harder to Optimize for lower end devices. Most of the TikToks i see for Wuthering Waves are made by Genshin players and i get hate when i say my opinions about Rinascita, it is what it is gng.
At 9:49 as a former PGR player, I was pretty disappointed but not at all surprised. Kuro can make good male characters, from lore to designs, but they sadly get shafted so bad and how many times has it proven already that male characters do sell, because Love and Deepspace pretty much proved that, but whatever I guess. Been seeing some crazed waifu lovers too that every time someone just pointed out that the male to female ratio is horrible, they keep saying “go play otome games” or “go play LADS” like bruh, not all women and gay people are into those. It’s a valid criticism, and they’re oddly very defensive about it as if having a male playable character existing will erase their digital wife. Honestly, because of this, I think the Kuro fandom is worse in this regard. Sure the Hoyo fandom is just as rabid, but so far I’ve never seen them try to chase away female/gay players, or just male character enjoyers (so far from what I’ve seen at least). The story on the other hand will be a deal breaker for me at this point. I do enjoy the gameplay, but gameplay can only go so far. I do hope things improve, like characters interacting with other characters, not just Rover, we get to know more about the world itself, because the story is really, really meh right now.
Issue is, Kuro tried to make more male characters, but almost every time they do it, there is an outcry from the Chinese player base because of it. They tried tearing kuro to shreds when they dared to release S Chrome. It's why they are more careful about releasing male characters
@TheLazyBoi_ I've heard about that, also including female workers getting harassed too. Maybe back then, I could still understand, but now with WuWa with a growing audience and wider reach? Idk, I wish they were braver and stop listening to that side of the fandom only. As I said, oh well. The least they could do at this point is make the story better.
@@TheLazyBoi_chinese incel community do be ruining everything, even the most normal game. I hope kuro eventually understand that male characters do sell very well, even among male audience whether they be gay or straight. Heck, I've seen straight dudes play BL games. If the character is good lore wise and design wise, they'll sell well regardless of gender.
Ngl, this video made me subscribe. Side note: The ratio of Male to Female characters is, I think 25%, whereas the standard is somewhere around 20% or lower. Really hoping that WUWA adds a couple new male characters. Assuming Scar and Phrolova come out after Rinascita we'll have 31 characters (counting Male Rover as .5 and Female Rover as .5) with a 28% ratio. I'm personally hoping they at least hit a 30% mark. Can't wait to see what Brant will sound and do in the game, while his color pallet could be better, I'm just happy they're adding a male character. Realling looking forward to him and Carlotta.
As an early player,Its so sad to see the community turn into another cesspool so quick. Though even I have some disagreements with your takes & mentioned how rinacita was marketed to be a more commercial update to gather a large audience so its not gonna fit the wuwa worlds baffling to see people jump at throats just cause someone shared their opinion
I saw another content creator (who plays Wuwa) made a vid about playing Genshin again because Natlan got released, and he said positive things about Genshin and made some comparisons that favor Genshin over Wuwa. The comments section there were full of Wuwa defenders. It's just sad really.
Played victim again i see...that utuber started the fire first now people blaming on wuwa fandom lol...here what u forgot about that utuber said that cause all the ruckus "wuwa graphic look like minecraft"
NGL I was legitimately concerned with the hate you were getting because of your takes even if you're being reasonable with them, but by the looks of it you're having hella fun making these videos because of the damn comments so keep up the good work G
@@BarTetel you know I can handle it king 🗣️🔥 i always knew even if u sound a LITTLE BIT aggressive in a video ppl will see it as an attack, thank you for the comment 🙏🏽🤣
true but its kind of a given since a good portion of wuwa's community are former genshin players and we all know how toxic those guys are (im referring to the loud minority here) what concerns me in this though are the amount of players who are put off to even try the game due to the loud minority in this community (my friends wont even give it a shot thanks to Wuwa community's toxic side) its funny and sad though that you had to explain it as if your talking to a toddler
I really doubt that actually. I can't see too many people that started in Genshin, AND were the toxic minority, moving to WuWa. WuWa is really small compared to Genshin and I think is more likely filled with PGR and HI3 players. The chillest spaces I see are the people playing both or all 3 (Genshin, WuWa, ZZZ). Very few of the people that originated in Genshin were very disappointed with it as much as us who had expectations from HI3 and APHO. A lot of the bitterness there originated with how disappointing Genshin was for loyal Mihoyo fans not too much different than how PGR fans are often the most disappointed with WuWa so far. The tribal side of Genshin loyalists probably aren't going anywhere near WuWa which is why all their criticism is media heresay.
@@nottyseel949 yea i agree still its undeniable that these toxic minority is causing people who could have liked the game not try it my friends for example have been asking and complaining in genshin about real hard content and by hard they mean not just damage sponges with a timer above your head, but they are put off thanks to this very few yet toxic minority let just hope it dies out at some point and welcome an actual criticism and understand what "OPINION" is
@@nottyseel949 fair point but my point still holds where this toxic minority in WuWa is negatively affecting WuWa's reputation, haters will always hate no point in trying to convince them, but if the BS came from within WuWa's community it hits harder, toxic positivity is very very vile in the eyes of outsiders who are curious if its worth their time imagine you know nothing about wuwa and you take a look at it especially the pros and cons since you dont want to waste your time in another gatcha game, then you see wuwa fans scorching someone who genuinely criticize the game, or someone stating their own opinion and getting blasted for not being positive i think such would deter more people than the haters
@@ozoahameg3582 True, toxic by definition negatively affects any environment it's in. It's why the only positive solution is avoiding it. You can't clean toxicity, only spread it. For example, many of the comments are now just being toxic in return to the toxic people being complained about. Nonetheless, there's tons of spaces where there are no such flames. The only people that end up here are the people that love the heat like us. You know what you're getting into when you see the thumbnail. I don't think it's going to bury the game in any way like it hasn't buried literally any other, especially Genshin.
Wuwa' community is probably worse, if you think about how the genshin community is like at least 10 times bigger. But if you make even a valid criticism about anything in the game you'll get instantly attacked by hundreds of people. You'll not get attacked that fast in genshin even with it being way bigger This idea of "wuwa is better" or the devs are listening to feedback and actually improving the game is cool and all, but that made the community way too defensive and obsessive. If wuwa was bigger than genshin, there would be no need for people to try to defend it so hard. The irony here is actually kinda interesting, psychologically speaking. Try saying something that isn't a complete brainless praise about the game on reddit and you'll see what happens lol But reddit is the biggest echochamber creator in the world so... This insane way people are defending companies nowadays, and not only in games, is something to be studied for some centuries to come. The same way we're still studying the hows and whys about what happened in the last century
It’s always those “MY game is better than YOUR game” type of people that wouldn’t think twice before jumping on someone not liking the same thing as them. I guess they exist in every gacha community. Even tho I had hoped they’d be less in wuwa… I agree with the stories not being that memorable. I feel like they’re too short? Like there isn’t enough build up before the execution, for my taste at least. I haven’t played tsubaki story for this patch yet but when I was doing the shore keeper story, as much as I enjoyed the visual works and the music, I didn’t feel like I got to know her as much as I would’ve liked to? I know I could read her archives if I wanted but the story could have better portrayed her I feel like. But that’s just me and my little opinion.
@@ドクター118 nah u actually dropped this 👑 I feel as though the story could use more OOMF u know what I mean ? I really think they have all the right ingredients but not executing it proper enough imo too much revolving around rover tbh
@@RegashuDB Is that really thou? being around rover...it's okay if you're talking about camellia and shorekeeper, but that's a specific thing for them since they knew rover way before he disappeared (especially Shorekeeper who was created because of rover, she's a AI created to help rover the 1 resonator) but I don't feel that the other stories with the characters were around rover, but much more about themselves, yes rover has participation and help, but they all kind of concluded their arcs on their own merits
I see where you're coming from with that. I'm just so glad after the PTSD from Genshin (and PGR) bloat that the stories are so direct and focused. I do think there's room for more expansion though but definitely prefer underdoing it compared to previous games. Can you give an example about what you would have preferred to see?
Classic case of the internet (and gacha specifically) having a collective 4 brain cells I been thinking about this a lot recently, how the anonymity of the internet has made voicing your opinion almost not even worth it. It's almost sad how different interactions can be when its online against in person. There's even a difference between direct messages and voice calls. It's almost like, when you can't hear the other person's voice, they're just not even real, so instead of being civil and having a genuine conversation, they just ignore everything you say. Now, i've never taken a psychology class or anything like that, so what i'm saying is mostly just my limited personal experience, which, while not much, still counts for something. I'm not saying that people being unable to understand each other is specifically limited to the internet, i've seen it happen in real life too, just not to that degree. But, most of those people being idiots in real life are, take a wild guess, children, or at least teenagers. If that isn't telling you something, i don't know what will. That's kinda why i don't really interact with many internet communities in general. i'm in like 40 or 50 discord servers, but i only ever really talk in two. And those two servers only have a select few people in them, and most of the time they aren't active. I have 68 friends, and yet i only have genuine conversations with one, who also happens to be someone i met in real life. And that's only discord, there are plenty of other platforms that i either don't have or haven't posted anything on in months. Honestly, i have more genuine conversations in the youtube comments section of this channel than i do in most other social media. Disorganized thoughts over, have a good day
@@atch4764 brother I won’t lie to you your comments are always W comments, insightful, humble, and reasonable give yo self more credit king, seeing ur comments always helps towards making my day atch, fr. 🗣️🔥‼️💯🩸🩸🦾🦾
Gacha gamers gotta gaslight themselves into thinking that their "investment" (hundreds of dollars or hours spent) was a good decision. Either by glazing or shitting on other games. Just ignore comments that aren't even remotely trying to have any form of proper criticism. A loud minority of a toxic crowd will always exist, in any fandom out there. (Also, I do disagree that WuWa's lore is bad. It does actually have a pretty good one. The problem is just that it's never really Explored in the actual story)
wuwa has some HUGELY amazing concepts and potential to have a great story constructed from the ingredients they have, but to me it’s not be executed properly, I was talking to someone about it here I believe talking about how the smaller character stories we have going on instead of focusing on a main story is a side effect of kuro rewriting everything when CN said their story is shit, hope that the story focuses on the actual main plot line rather than every other character. Also hope we see the other characters interact with EACHOTHER more 😭🙏🏽
@RegashuDB I yearn for the day that somebody will talk to a character that isn't rover lmao My hopium is that for 2.x, they got enough feedback and time to change some of their previous Plans of overglazing Rover, and going for an approach that especially GLOBAL players wanted, especially with China not really being the main money maker as well here. I am also not sure if this is correct, but I've heard they changed their main writer to the one that is the main writer for PGR? I haven't touched too much on PGR (the launch chapters are kinda... 😭), but it did have a lot of different character interactions at least, and good story afterwards I heard, so I am hyped.
@@Real-Quarlie NAH I FEEL U THE FIRST HALF OF PGR IS SOOOOOO UGH that’s why I was like I hope wuwa don’t take as long as PGR to get to the good parts cuz it’s been 6 months alrdy but GAHHHDAMN, if the main writer for PGR is doing this shit now we might wait another 6 months for some crazy shit to go down 😭😭😭😭
@@RegashuDB Oh, I meant, already back in like 1.1 it was said that the New writer is the PGR writer. That's why I think that we can probably expect their work in 2.0
The state of wuwa fandom is really dire. From how i see it, rhe wuwa fandom has become so defensive cause of the attacks from the hoyo fanbase that any criticism is seen as offensive. I can see why things turned out this way but omfg it has gotten unbearable. I really hope time can heal this.
Not only that the fanbase is so divided what they want with the game, some who were already following Kuro before wants a Dark Game like PGR and as PGR player i don't want WW to be entirely dark as PGR aka a copy-paste, the main problem with dark stories is that its not much going to be different to other dark stories other than who's gonna suffer,die etc because they can't go beyond what's already shown in other PG 13+++++ teen game, if you really have kink who do you want to see suffer seriously dark,gore visual novel is a thing and go enjoy some dark visual novel. While others wants it to be just a fantasy,adventure game etc, if i really want to see a dark fantasy game i prefer it to be brutal as berserk like literal Dark.
I kinda predict the community gonna start to being like this before the game even come out so let see can time heal it . ( I think it wont lol , popular = more dump ppl )
@@tris1591 Lol it won't the internet is too big nowadays that every kind of people are already in, adding Open-world games is too mainstream so you can't even gate keep WW, adding its more easier to play then PGR, the one thing to put in my mind is when you put your own opinion out their especially in the net, expect many people have knee-jerk reaction that will criticize you regardless whether its harsh,disagreement etc, especially having a title that say "i might hate it" for just seeing images,beta video etc, and most people nowadays after reading that title will simply regard everything you spout after that as negative, yeah its F up but that's just simply people are nowadays, hence why every media tend to overly dramatic with every title they put out their.
@@agunkorea2995 That's also a problem where people misunderstand what is "post-apocalyptic" suppose to be, not only that theirs something called timeframe and just how big the apocalyptic event was and the severity of the destruction, i guess thanks the movies or some games especially when they simply can't give context like what happened to the rest of the world etc, and some despite being "post-apocalyptic", the story is in the process of going another apocalyptic again or whatever.
This entire video it’s so based, i do also hope 2.0 brings a better experience in the story, for me, the story right now from 1.0 to 1.4 wasn’t super insane but still a bit enjoyable, not terrible, but there is definitely a lot of room for improvement, let’s see what Kuro cooks in 2.0 (personally I want something in the level of the Spiral of Chronos Chapter in terms of epicness)
I feel you about the story. The last 2 patches have been pretty bad (in my opinion) in regards to the story. I actually stopped playing for a week as I was so annoyed with Camellya's companion quest, but then decided fuck it and just started playing again, but skipping the story. Thank fuck we have a skip button.
I dont really feel much of the presence of these players in some of the groups i joined in, since most of them are pretty much blocked by the admins. I do hope these kinds of people are the minority. Although I've been glazing kuro since pgr first cam on global(have known them in cn), but i've never been toxic to other game nor tried to come along to their bandwagon. When wuwa techincal test was announced, the first thing that i ever wished for that once this game got released, i hoped that the fandom won't become like genshin ever did. seems like that was too wishful.
This is what I’ve been saying, I’ve seen so many WuWa fans just spam WuWa or genshin videos with “genshin could never” or some annoying, thing like arguing about how genshin story is worse then WuWa (which…. They are both pretty uh not good and I’d liked to think Kirk will make it like PGR were at first it’s bad but takes off, but for now BA’s and Arknights are arguably better in my opinion) and then they use emotes like 😂😂😂😂 or 😊😊😊, it just looks and feels like talking to a child who just learned how to type. Also keep in mind, former genshin players also flocked to WuWa which while not all are toxic… we probably got the loudest ones… Edit: I can’t really watch your video since it’s midnight lol, maybe I missed something
Nice video! I agree with what you're saying. Definitely. I think the only reason that I am enjoying the story is because of how well the storytelling is being represented. The dynamics of the characters movement, the camera shots, and the small details or other cinematics are just amazing. It is incredibly overshadowing the story that it might seem the story has a really good plot when in reality it is simply very basic. In Rinascita I hope they can initiate some character interactions, interesting backstories and overall a very nice story and storytelling. PGR took quite the chapters before it hooked me in, so I hope in this 2.0 we can see some improvements nonetheless big changes in the MAIN storyline.
W opinion, and YES!!! I love want more characters to interact with EACHOTHER like I love being loved by characters as much as the next guy but can I watch some of the others actually oh idk INTERACT MORE 😭🙏🏽💯
I'm glad you are open to this discussion despite the toxic mfs seeing this as a war. We all love the game and want it to improve. For me what the story lacks the most is a plan/objective and suspense. I know rover is trying to regain their memories but thats not enough. Just go from one place to another saving the waifu of the month and maybe someone there will know a thing or two about you. And the thing about Rinascita is that it will be either a big hit or a huge miss. I've seen people theorizing that seeing colorful balloons everywhere in the air and teddybears walking around the street is a bait and shadier/darker things are happening in the background. If thats the case then i hope kuro delivers and not in a scooby-doo type fashion of catching the bad guy. Otherwise if its the echo-wonderland its joever. (kinda hoping Phralova pops up and destroys the whole city 😉)
BROOO I mention that in my last vid! I NEEEEED phrolova to actually be a on screen threat rather than an off screen one 😭 plus I need the other characters to idk… INTERACT WITH EACHOTHER MORE, my boy kasumi and I feel like there’s no antagonist or main plot aside from getting our memories…. phrolova only got like what, 2 or 3 scenes over the span of 6 months? shit is so dumb 💀
The whole community is slowly turning into a toxic positivity cesspool. They developed a sort of elitism against genshin players & hating it instead of actually enjoying the game. And even the CCs are accelerating the problem even more like sintontas & kazahana. They just jump on the band blindly glazing wuwa so much it enders their mouth & exits from their anus. All while 70% of the time bi***ng about genshin/hsr & using wuwa as a launchpad. Like i don't even play genshin,just give me the info about the game i'm here for. It feels disrespectful & disingenuous to wuwa itself that its being used juat as a tool/launchpad for hating another game. I feel like they don't even like wuwa. They just found a new toy to spread hate & release their frustration towards hoyo & will move once another big game comes out
I am so tired of people getting caught up in their feelings because of a difference in opinion. It's not just a problem in gacha gaming society as a whole has become a meat rider for corporations to the point it has replaced other belief systems. I'll never understand why people feel they need to defend a corporation from "the haters". Who gives a shit, none of you are seeing any of that money..
THATS WHAT IM SAYIN LIKE YO ASS IS GETTING PAID FOR THIS???? MUST BE MAKING BANK FR 😭😭😭 but yeah Gacha gaming is literally just a cesspool of over defensive lil bitches ngl 😔
I'm sorry you have to deal with that. Its cool that you voice your opinion with no holds barred and i shall respect that wholeheartedly. We all have our differences and its okay to disagree something. It wont be the end of it all. Keep cooking.
Unfortunately Shu, The WuWa community is strikingly similar to the Genshin one. At least here on youtube :(. If you say anything could be improved in WuWa, or you don't like something in the game, you're a hater, a Hoyo shill and the game isn't for you. P.S the BG3 love makes me respect you even more 👊 Edit: I feel the same about Brant. I was hoping for someone a bit more... manly
Well I might as well say this now. I've been subbed and watching most (not all haha) your videos for a couple of months now. I mostly agree with what you say. I'm less critical about wuwa story but that's about it. I enjoy your videos, looking forward to watching your next ones
I would be honest if wuwa wasn't made by kuro games i would have quit. PGR is the only thing giving me hope for wuwa. All these genshin players be glazing anything. I mean anything. About GI players vs wuwa players both are the same people. And 10% PGR players. But wuwa is Saint compared to genshin community. They be doing Judge Holden type shi. Ey I'm here for the gameplay and character designs so that's that. I agree with your points. I wanna see dark horror type stuff. And when the stakes are high and any playable character can die is the good stuff. Kuro isn't shy about killing playable characters.
More like, "torturing playable characters" I think. Since I don't really remember Kuro managed to kill any of their playable characters yet (well, there's some, but mostly it's before they became playable)
What do you actually dislike about WuWa? Has Kuro actually made any other games besides PGR? Because ppl keep saying they specialize in dark horror and not only did I not really see that in PGR but I thought it was their only game... (I think they may have had one other really small unrelated title). I'm glad WuWa is not like PGR because I still want OW PGR. I really want them to do a Stellar Blade/Granblue Relink style game in PGR universe. And then WuWa crossovers. I'd hate for WuWa to just be the PGR replacement lol.
@nottyseel949 pgr is indeed dark. And I like the story but early story is slow and generic. We have to catch up to cn for more good story. kuros first game was twintail battlefield it failed. But pgr is completely different. And imo PGR CN is better than wuwa.
@@cypureisreallybusy I get your perspective I just meant specifics. I have a very unique perspective on WuWa's story apparently so I like to hear what others, especially those not enjoying it, are seeing and discuss. I think/hope they're setting us up for my what was my favorite part of PGR (the twins), and if so they're doing it beautifully. Also, the Rover is very unique as an MC and far more than a harem leader (potentially). Again my head canon could be off, but it's what I've been getting since the Amazon worker arc, which was my favorite quest. All of my favorites are actually in 1.0. What are you getting out of it? 4 being my favorite and ties into what I love about WuWa story. Before I essay about that, pulse check if you even want to have this conversation. 😂.
Not gonna lie, I clicked the video, intending to listen to what you're gonna say, and then just fully spaced out when you started rambling and namecalling. Only later realized I haven't paid attention to anything in the first 5 minutes of the video.
Fans(especially wuwa) just trash and act tough against others instead of forexample introducing the game or explaining convincingly. This is the type of fanbase I hate the most. I’m just yappin at this point but that’s my opinion. And I agree with u that the story is mid or even lower but I seem to enjoy it only cuz of the cutscenes. This vid made me think I Gotta use my literacy skills and brain little more when playing games so appreciate it ig.😂 Btw what’s ur fav pgr story? I’ve been a jp server player so Everything was kinda vague for me.
EMPYREA STORYLINE!!! It’s been so long since I did it and I remember certain aspects I didn’t like during the build up but Liv Empy be living in my head rent free fr 😭
I'm a Genshin player but as I am watching this video, I'd tell the devs that I think some mini monsters are taking more time than it should. Hard bosses will be fun for many but hard farming is not.
@@craiver00 they say an eye for an eye makes the world go blind, but I don’t think me name calling them when they did it first is gonna be the end of the world 😂 W comment tho
@@RegashuDB The concept of "an eye for an eye" works in real life not in cyberspace where everyone is hiding like a beach behind screens. I get it, maybe you don't have any other way to unleash your frustration with the shizz you get online specially as a CC. I hope you find absolute peace
Just to remind yall wuwa consist mostly ex genshin itself n hsr player...it not weird how the community become like that...also there some serious issue currently being actively doing dirty thing....where these people masking themselve as the opponent fandom n try to make fun/toxic toward their own fandom just to make other people see this fandom is toxic...this ive been seein lately
I play star rail, wuwa and genshin. It should not matter if everyone plays everything, or try new things. Trying a variety in life is always good so we can compare things we have. Monopoly is never good as there will not be advancement! Don't give in to people saying crap like you should only play one lol. Life is a game play it the way you want!!!
felt like 5 minutes of meaningless yap, i zoned out, fell asleep and died of boredom. who cares, combat is fun and if you play any of these gacha games for anything other than quick enjoyment with the combat/exploration, you definitely have a pride flag on your wall.
You are a well spoken gentleman, It seems that you are almost at your wit's end through occasional cursing. But you know don't lose hope bro I actually agree on how the story was a whole ass mary sue type of shi 😂, visual was ok, and people who only want to hear what they want to hear, they deny cold hard facts to suit their mundane and false life
@@VLeo-sonofliberty thank you king you dropped this 👑 Many of my slightly old videos were a lot more mature sounding and a little more safe but i used to just have fun making videos in my SUPER early time making PGR content and i wanna go back to just having fun with it, and it seems like stating my opinions lights a fire under my ass 🤣🔥🙏🏽
I will fight you on this. What are your "cold hard facts" that the story is what you say? Let's box. Now, before you start I'd like to remind you that Rover is a god-like being apparently and has been for ages and has not won... ever in any timeline, civilization, or simulation. Your rebuttal please.
@nottyseel949 Alright I'll humor you. First of the story is a vile rushed clusterf*ck, the characters almost always turns to horny dogs that always want the main character reduced to nothing but waifus and husbandos instead of something interesting and relatable, they have beautiful landscapes and locations that could tell a deep story but they just get abanoned and scrapped because the new waifu will make the bucks
Genuinely, what did you dislike about the lore? 7:49 I would have thought from our conversations on PGR lore/plot you'd have found some interesting hooks like I did, but I'm beginning to think I'm the only human that's actually enjoying the story... I also thought you'd have been all over that Stellar Blade/Granblue Relink style-PGR game idea. We've grown apart... 😢
The truth is ppl need to chill and touch grass. Games are games, while gachas are worst type of games out there be it Gathering Wives or Gayshit Impact... 🙄
9:17 To be fair, the only time the game could have had a memorable story moment was in 1.0...but since they had to rewrite everything in such a short time, it didn't deliver properly. The following stories had a much smaller nucleo, being more about the characters' internal conflicts and discovering more things about our character. There was no attempt to make a super "epic" plot. and honestly it was better that way, there's no reason to try to take step beyond they leg when we still barely knew about the characters, and especially our character. it would just repeat the same mistake of 1.0 again. But lets see how they will deal with renascita. And the good parts of pgr just works on people because it took some time until they got to the hit plot points
@@whatamess8894 see but I feel like Kurogames can be good enough to deliver an over arching story whilst simultaneously allowing us to get to know and understand the characters. I 100% can agree on the smaller character stories being welll…. OK but idk I feel like Kuro could have gave us a little more oomf to the story my king 🗣️🔥
@@RegashuDB I think they also have the capacity to do this, but under different circumstances. the rewrite of the story, we don't know to what extent this could have affected them and how much they could elaborate and adapt for the game, I don't think the 1.x versions would have given them that opportunity in this circumstance. If we had a more normal schedule maybe... but that wasn't the case. It may seem like I'm using this fact a lot to give them an excuse, but it's undeniably a factor, in recent interviews it was said that the guys threw away 1 year of history, I even think that 1.x would have a lot more than only up to 1.4
hate breeds hate. Comparing A to B because A isn't like B is never a great idea. Although wuwa story lacks in many places, I don't think they lack because "wuwa isn't like pgr".
Is it just me or Zani is actually a Batgirl? You know what is funny to me about the whole "lore" debacle ppl seems to love around wuwa? I kinda dont care about the lore? Yes it is mid, and a very low mid at that very close to shit. I might read, maybe skip. Mostly skip depending on my avaliable tome to slog trough it couse i want to punch shit, get new intersting bosses with cool moves to learn and shit on them latter, see the cool places, hear cool music ( Wuwa is kinda lacking, but PGR music is tough competition to rise up ), look at nice jiggles. Read and lear new techs when i have time to do it. Yes i would like to have better reading material in Wuwa, but i kinda dont. I'm already busy AF reading other stuff to become emotionaly invested in the lore os MORE STUFF, and i'm glad it is as mid as it is.
this is actually a W take, sometimes it’s good to play something mid on the side interms of story when you wanna emotionally invest in other game stories or other game characters. Wuwa is fun as hell to play also idk bout the Zani bit bro, idk no bats with black horns and a little demon tail 🤣
Truth 1 : It always been genshin community ,like 60-80% is ex - genshin player . Truth 2 : You cant form your personal opinion in this gacha community .
in my opinion, more likely, majority of Wuwa players are the "My first gacha game is genshin" players, turned genshin haters and are now wuwashills(cause they only ever played maybe 2-3 games before less than 10 at best, cause of short attention spans)
@@kley281 yeah definitely plus a lot of Pgr fans who are people who came from Pgr, kuro’s another game either left cause it wasn’t like Pgr or it’s become it isn’t as big of a community like genshin
It's my favorite by far of the recent games in question. I'd give it a C+. I physically can't get through Genshin's story and the payoff is never worth it. PGR's payoff is worth it but it's actually almost harder to get through because it's way too bloated with exposition and completely useless narration. They spend literal pages talking about cracks on the wall and it actually gets worse as the game goes on for some reason. So, yeah, WuWa wins for me just for being easy to get through, plot-focused, direct, and a unique and connected MC. Which is a surprisingly low bar, but it is what it is with these gacha games, lol.
I mean if you're not willing to wait, there many other gacha coming out, you can go switch to them and wait again. Rinse and repeat, or Play Hoyo games. or better Heaven Burn Red. Come back whenever. Why the hurry? Getting defensive and painting in a broad brush too with playing with words. Are you all that differents? Haters and Video like this make me laugh so much. You all think your are so special.
Bro thinks he's so special but in reality said a whole lot of nothing but word salad, could not resist mentioning hoyo and did not watch the video. 💀 You shills are all the same.
Firstly when you throw an opinion better be prepared that some rando will give gis opinion about how trash your opinion is that's basically basic animal behaviour found in human brain. 😂 Jokes aside Sensitive people should not and be interacting with the online world. Be it Genshin community wuwa community a vast amount of people there can't stand opinions and criticisms.
Watched Cap's vid. Love Cap. But man the comments is a cesspool. Lol. Some comments are even gaslighting you. Extremely childish behaviour. Been here since your PGR days and before your emo voice monologues. You're doing great, the game and community values your constructive criticism.
Lol "communities". Eh I'm playing wuwa more for the flashy engaging gameplay than anything. the lore could be good or bad im playing it either way. PGR gameplay is way too complex for me so call me lizardbrained. i cant ping for shit. Ww just got the mechanics to feel good enough and have enough skill expression that im willing to stick with it. this is one of the reasons why im kinda excited for rinascita even with the lorebombs that dropped. a carnival could be a nice change of pace for now. and im a sucker for amazing looking architecture. but yeah. once ww goes the whole damage sponge and nothing else route, and then drop characters that even trip in the slight direction of nahida or neuvillette.... me and wws relationship gonna be strained as hell. i started watching your content cause youve got the most normal takes on ww. unlike a certain creator that can only glaze and provide very little constructive criticism, you know what you want from the devs and with pgr experience can point to a direction theyve already gone before. thats nice to hear yknow. so keep at it and hopefully you still stick around post-carnival aesthetic. heres to hoping the lore gets as dark as digitalized genocide then get rewarded 40asterites dark eventually again. peacepeace.
I saw like two videos from you on this topic and those are the only times i feel you’ve came up for me and the way you came across was just really edgy and annoying and it felt like if the game wasnt the way you wanted it that it was a bad game but honestly all of us want for a game to be how we envision it and at the end of the day it really is just an opinion and whether you want to continue wuwa or not is of no importance to me i think its just your demeanor? That made people feel some type of way just from my experience and first impressions of you obviously idk you or how you are all the time but i just wanted to provide a potential explanation for the reaction you got from the community anyways hopes this helps mr edgy alpha😊
I can understand about having personal opinions, but pls don't reinforce your opinion with cabinetz You got yours, she got her even if they are so bad that even looks like double intentions (very agenda like) And where were you mainly criticized? I hear you justifying yourself, telling your own side of the story, but where was the other? It's better to have a full context
This is why I have mostly stopped engaging with this overly toxic community which is nothing but a joke and take suggestion/opinion as personal offense as if someone is abusing them 🥱
Let’s see who ends up watching the video the entire way thru
Im ngl a lot of the comments I read were MAD funny, but I won’t change my first impression on Rinascita and its characters in terms of designs or other aspects until the patch releases, this is the last time ima make a video on the topic but making these types of videos is mad funny unfortunately
I ain’t a drama channel and don’t intend to be so this is unironically my last video on the matter.
Next vid on that global sync process and how it could attract them DMC mfs, if you know you know. Take care everybody, peace peace.
Nah I'd win.
@ you would wouldn’t you ? 🔥
Still equal-parts scared and excited about the global sync.
@ IM NGL IM KINDA SCARED FOR IT TOO
He's basically saying the story is mid as hell
This isn't a WuWa-only problem. Have you ever heard of "Genshin could never"? Yep. That term came from the Honkai Star Rail community. The next open-world gacha games will have the anti-Genshin mob flock to it.
And they will Fall
“Her Vtuber model won’t let you hit lil bro” is NEFARIOUS 😂
BRO THEY HAD ME FUMING 💀💀💀
Having a second opinion that may diverge from a common consensus is what keeps discussions about the things we love alive and for that reason, I think channels like this one are invaluable.
It brings a different angle of perspective which might not have been considered before; that can be pretty insightful. Entertaining, too.
u dropped this 👑
thank you I appreciate that 🗣️🔥
The gacha community seems to think that revenue determines how good a game is. I like the direction that WuWa is going with Rinascita. Huanglong being dark and depressing makes sense, as it didn't recover that well from the lament, and is constantly under threat. Rinascita being more bright and cheerful shows us that some regions were able to recover better than others, and that theres still hope.
Someone have other opinions:
Community: I Took That Personally
@@MaRuU_0 that’s the craziest part, a mf can’t even say he don’t like summ for real 😭
Idk why do we even talk about this. Is that classic case of minority being the loudest, most people are not taking sides and couldn't care less about any drama. Most people enjoy whatever they want.
Wuthering Waves community are 50% or 60% full of Genshin fans lmao, most PGR Players stick to PGR for the reason that it genuinely runs a lot better than WuWa because WuWa runs on Unreal Engine which is harder to Optimize for lower end devices.
Most of the TikToks i see for Wuthering Waves are made by Genshin players and i get hate when i say my opinions about Rinascita, it is what it is gng.
Criticism isn't permitted- especially when it's fair and reasonable!
@@yearslate9349 damn! he spittin fr 😭
At 9:49 as a former PGR player, I was pretty disappointed but not at all surprised. Kuro can make good male characters, from lore to designs, but they sadly get shafted so bad and how many times has it proven already that male characters do sell, because Love and Deepspace pretty much proved that, but whatever I guess. Been seeing some crazed waifu lovers too that every time someone just pointed out that the male to female ratio is horrible, they keep saying “go play otome games” or “go play LADS” like bruh, not all women and gay people are into those. It’s a valid criticism, and they’re oddly very defensive about it as if having a male playable character existing will erase their digital wife. Honestly, because of this, I think the Kuro fandom is worse in this regard. Sure the Hoyo fandom is just as rabid, but so far I’ve never seen them try to chase away female/gay players, or just male character enjoyers (so far from what I’ve seen at least).
The story on the other hand will be a deal breaker for me at this point. I do enjoy the gameplay, but gameplay can only go so far. I do hope things improve, like characters interacting with other characters, not just Rover, we get to know more about the world itself, because the story is really, really meh right now.
Issue is, Kuro tried to make more male characters, but almost every time they do it, there is an outcry from the Chinese player base because of it. They tried tearing kuro to shreds when they dared to release S Chrome. It's why they are more careful about releasing male characters
@TheLazyBoi_ I've heard about that, also including female workers getting harassed too. Maybe back then, I could still understand, but now with WuWa with a growing audience and wider reach? Idk, I wish they were braver and stop listening to that side of the fandom only. As I said, oh well. The least they could do at this point is make the story better.
@@TheLazyBoi_chinese incel community do be ruining everything, even the most normal game. I hope kuro eventually understand that male characters do sell very well, even among male audience whether they be gay or straight. Heck, I've seen straight dudes play BL games. If the character is good lore wise and design wise, they'll sell well regardless of gender.
@@raviolibirb8009and not only that, doesn't it help female character enjoyers too? They get to save up if they don't wanna pull for male characters.
@@Swallow341 yuppp. See, this is why we need more male characters, we male enjoyers can help the incels to save money ;)))))
Ngl, this video made me subscribe.
Side note: The ratio of Male to Female characters is, I think 25%, whereas the standard is somewhere around 20% or lower. Really hoping that WUWA adds a couple new male characters. Assuming Scar and Phrolova come out after Rinascita we'll have 31 characters (counting Male Rover as .5 and Female Rover as .5) with a 28% ratio. I'm personally hoping they at least hit a 30% mark. Can't wait to see what Brant will sound and do in the game, while his color pallet could be better, I'm just happy they're adding a male character. Realling looking forward to him and Carlotta.
WELCOME TO THE GANG MY KING 💯‼️🦾🩸🗣️🔥
Legend Says that 90% of watchers won’t make it thru the complete video…
Cringetone's viewers probably.
True
@@Jurgir09Hating on a man isn't gonna take you anywhere buddy. Grow up
As an early player,Its so sad to see the community turn into another cesspool so quick. Though even I have some disagreements with your takes & mentioned how rinacita was marketed to be a more commercial update to gather a large audience so its not gonna fit the wuwa worlds baffling to see people jump at throats just cause someone shared their opinion
I saw another content creator (who plays Wuwa) made a vid about playing Genshin again because Natlan got released, and he said positive things about Genshin and made some comparisons that favor Genshin over Wuwa. The comments section there were full of Wuwa defenders. It's just sad really.
shit is embarrassing fr 🤷🏽♂️
Played victim again i see...that utuber started the fire first now people blaming on wuwa fandom lol...here what u forgot about that utuber said that cause all the ruckus
"wuwa graphic look like minecraft"
@@keizuna1097 AINT NO WAY BRO SAID THAT 😭😭😭😭
NGL I was legitimately concerned with the hate you were getting because of your takes even if you're being reasonable with them, but by the looks of it you're having hella fun making these videos because of the damn comments so keep up the good work G
@@BarTetel you know I can handle it king 🗣️🔥 i always knew even if u sound a LITTLE BIT aggressive in a video ppl will see it as an attack, thank you for the comment 🙏🏽🤣
@@RegashuDBwait you were getting hate? Damn, I’m sorry about that
true
but its kind of a given since a good portion of wuwa's community are former genshin players and we all know how toxic those guys are (im referring to the loud minority here)
what concerns me in this though are the amount of players who are put off to even try the game due to the loud minority in this community (my friends wont even give it a shot thanks to Wuwa community's toxic side)
its funny and sad though that you had to explain it as if your talking to a toddler
so sad how horrific a community’s reputation can affect a game too 😭🙏🏽
I really doubt that actually. I can't see too many people that started in Genshin, AND were the toxic minority, moving to WuWa.
WuWa is really small compared to Genshin and I think is more likely filled with PGR and HI3 players. The chillest spaces I see are the people playing both or all 3 (Genshin, WuWa, ZZZ).
Very few of the people that originated in Genshin were very disappointed with it as much as us who had expectations from HI3 and APHO.
A lot of the bitterness there originated with how disappointing Genshin was for loyal Mihoyo fans not too much different than how PGR fans are often the most disappointed with WuWa so far.
The tribal side of Genshin loyalists probably aren't going anywhere near WuWa which is why all their criticism is media heresay.
@@nottyseel949 yea i agree still its undeniable that these toxic minority is causing people who could have liked the game not try it
my friends for example have been asking and complaining in genshin about real hard content and by hard they mean not just damage sponges with a timer above your head,
but they are put off thanks to this very few yet toxic minority
let just hope it dies out at some point and welcome an actual criticism and understand what "OPINION" is
@@nottyseel949 fair point
but my point still holds where this toxic minority in WuWa is negatively affecting WuWa's reputation,
haters will always hate no point in trying to convince them, but if the BS came from within WuWa's community it hits harder, toxic positivity is very very vile in the eyes of outsiders who are curious if its worth their time
imagine you know nothing about wuwa and you take a look at it especially the pros and cons since you dont want to waste your time in another gatcha game, then you see wuwa fans scorching someone who genuinely criticize the game, or someone stating their own opinion and getting blasted for not being positive
i think such would deter more people than the haters
@@ozoahameg3582 True, toxic by definition negatively affects any environment it's in. It's why the only positive solution is avoiding it. You can't clean toxicity, only spread it. For example, many of the comments are now just being toxic in return to the toxic people being complained about.
Nonetheless, there's tons of spaces where there are no such flames. The only people that end up here are the people that love the heat like us. You know what you're getting into when you see the thumbnail. I don't think it's going to bury the game in any way like it hasn't buried literally any other, especially Genshin.
Wuwa' community is probably worse, if you think about how the genshin community is like at least 10 times bigger. But if you make even a valid criticism about anything in the game you'll get instantly attacked by hundreds of people. You'll not get attacked that fast in genshin even with it being way bigger
This idea of "wuwa is better" or the devs are listening to feedback and actually improving the game is cool and all, but that made the community way too defensive and obsessive. If wuwa was bigger than genshin, there would be no need for people to try to defend it so hard. The irony here is actually kinda interesting, psychologically speaking. Try saying something that isn't a complete brainless praise about the game on reddit and you'll see what happens lol But reddit is the biggest echochamber creator in the world so...
This insane way people are defending companies nowadays, and not only in games, is something to be studied for some centuries to come. The same way we're still studying the hows and whys about what happened in the last century
It’s always those “MY game is better than YOUR game” type of people that wouldn’t think twice before jumping on someone not liking the same thing as them. I guess they exist in every gacha community. Even tho I had hoped they’d be less in wuwa…
I agree with the stories not being that memorable. I feel like they’re too short? Like there isn’t enough build up before the execution, for my taste at least. I haven’t played tsubaki story for this patch yet but when I was doing the shore keeper story, as much as I enjoyed the visual works and the music, I didn’t feel like I got to know her as much as I would’ve liked to? I know I could read her archives if I wanted but the story could have better portrayed her I feel like. But that’s just me and my little opinion.
@@ドクター118 nah u actually dropped this 👑 I feel as though the story could use more OOMF u know what I mean ? I really think they have all the right ingredients but not executing it proper enough imo too much revolving around rover tbh
@@RegashuDB Is that really thou? being around rover...it's okay if you're talking about camellia and shorekeeper, but that's a specific thing for them since they knew rover way before he disappeared (especially Shorekeeper who was created because of rover, she's a AI created to help rover the 1 resonator)
but I don't feel that the other stories with the characters were around rover, but much more about themselves, yes rover has participation and help, but they all kind of concluded their arcs on their own merits
I see where you're coming from with that. I'm just so glad after the PTSD from Genshin (and PGR) bloat that the stories are so direct and focused. I do think there's room for more expansion though but definitely prefer underdoing it compared to previous games.
Can you give an example about what you would have preferred to see?
I don't know what's happening to the community but I find your pronouncing of "Rinasita" very funny 😂
RRRRRRINASCITA ‼️‼️‼️ LMAO
I'm glad you made this video. The crybabies need to be called out. Hopefully, they change (I doubt it tho).
I WISH bro 💀
unfortunately they saw the title saw my name and said “nah I’m good” 😭
Classic case of the internet (and gacha specifically) having a collective 4 brain cells
I been thinking about this a lot recently, how the anonymity of the internet has made voicing your opinion almost not even worth it. It's almost sad how different interactions can be when its online against in person. There's even a difference between direct messages and voice calls. It's almost like, when you can't hear the other person's voice, they're just not even real, so instead of being civil and having a genuine conversation, they just ignore everything you say. Now, i've never taken a psychology class or anything like that, so what i'm saying is mostly just my limited personal experience, which, while not much, still counts for something.
I'm not saying that people being unable to understand each other is specifically limited to the internet, i've seen it happen in real life too, just not to that degree. But, most of those people being idiots in real life are, take a wild guess, children, or at least teenagers. If that isn't telling you something, i don't know what will.
That's kinda why i don't really interact with many internet communities in general. i'm in like 40 or 50 discord servers, but i only ever really talk in two. And those two servers only have a select few people in them, and most of the time they aren't active. I have 68 friends, and yet i only have genuine conversations with one, who also happens to be someone i met in real life. And that's only discord, there are plenty of other platforms that i either don't have or haven't posted anything on in months. Honestly, i have more genuine conversations in the youtube comments section of this channel than i do in most other social media.
Disorganized thoughts over, have a good day
@@atch4764 brother I won’t lie to you your comments are always W comments, insightful, humble, and reasonable
give yo self more credit king, seeing ur comments always helps towards making my day atch, fr. 🗣️🔥‼️💯🩸🩸🦾🦾
Four brain cells is generous, as a gacha player we have a collective total of 2 and they are fighting for 5th place
Gacha gamers gotta gaslight themselves into thinking that their "investment" (hundreds of dollars or hours spent) was a good decision. Either by glazing or shitting on other games.
Just ignore comments that aren't even remotely trying to have any form of proper criticism. A loud minority of a toxic crowd will always exist, in any fandom out there.
(Also, I do disagree that WuWa's lore is bad. It does actually have a pretty good one. The problem is just that it's never really Explored in the actual story)
wuwa has some HUGELY amazing concepts and potential to have a great story constructed from the ingredients they have, but to me it’s not be executed properly, I was talking to someone about it here I believe talking about how the smaller character stories we have going on instead of focusing on a main story is a side effect of kuro rewriting everything when CN said their story is shit, hope that the story focuses on the actual main plot line rather than every other character. Also hope we see the other characters interact with EACHOTHER more 😭🙏🏽
@RegashuDB I yearn for the day that somebody will talk to a character that isn't rover lmao
My hopium is that for 2.x, they got enough feedback and time to change some of their previous Plans of overglazing Rover, and going for an approach that especially GLOBAL players wanted, especially with China not really being the main money maker as well here. I am also not sure if this is correct, but I've heard they changed their main writer to the one that is the main writer for PGR? I haven't touched too much on PGR (the launch chapters are kinda... 😭), but it did have a lot of different character interactions at least, and good story afterwards I heard, so I am hyped.
@@Real-Quarlie NAH I FEEL U THE FIRST HALF OF PGR IS SOOOOOO UGH that’s why I was like I hope wuwa don’t take as long as PGR to get to the good parts cuz it’s been 6 months alrdy but GAHHHDAMN, if the main writer for PGR is doing this shit now we might wait another 6 months for some crazy shit to go down 😭😭😭😭
@@RegashuDB Oh, I meant, already back in like 1.1 it was said that the New writer is the PGR writer. That's why I think that we can probably expect their work in 2.0
@ ohhhh aight bet my fault 🙏🏽
The state of wuwa fandom is really dire. From how i see it, rhe wuwa fandom has become so defensive cause of the attacks from the hoyo fanbase that any criticism is seen as offensive. I can see why things turned out this way but omfg it has gotten unbearable. I really hope time can heal this.
Not only that the fanbase is so divided what they want with the game, some who were already following Kuro before wants a Dark Game like PGR and as PGR player i don't want WW to be entirely dark as PGR aka a copy-paste, the main problem with dark stories is that its not much going to be different to other dark stories other than who's gonna suffer,die etc because they can't go beyond what's already shown in other PG 13+++++ teen game, if you really have kink who do you want to see suffer seriously dark,gore visual novel is a thing and go enjoy some dark visual novel.
While others wants it to be just a fantasy,adventure game etc, if i really want to see a dark fantasy game i prefer it to be brutal as berserk like literal Dark.
I kinda predict the community gonna start to being like this before the game even come out so let see can time heal it . ( I think it wont lol , popular = more dump ppl )
@@haruusami1831true. The moment i read WW sinopsis "post apocalyptic" ah shit here we go again. A cringe dark depression wannabe 😂
@@tris1591 Lol it won't the internet is too big nowadays that every kind of people are already in, adding Open-world games is too mainstream so you can't even gate keep WW, adding its more easier to play then PGR, the one thing to put in my mind is when you put your own opinion out their especially in the net, expect many people have knee-jerk reaction that will criticize you regardless whether its harsh,disagreement etc, especially having a title that say "i might hate it" for just seeing images,beta video etc, and most people nowadays after reading that title will simply regard everything you spout after that as negative, yeah its F up but that's just simply people are nowadays, hence why every media tend to overly dramatic with every title they put out their.
@@agunkorea2995 That's also a problem where people misunderstand what is "post-apocalyptic" suppose to be, not only that theirs something called timeframe and just how big the apocalyptic event was and the severity of the destruction, i guess thanks the movies or some games especially when they simply can't give context like what happened to the rest of the world etc, and some despite being "post-apocalyptic", the story is in the process of going another apocalyptic again or whatever.
This entire video it’s so based, i do also hope 2.0 brings a better experience in the story, for me, the story right now from 1.0 to 1.4 wasn’t super insane but still a bit enjoyable, not terrible, but there is definitely a lot of room for improvement, let’s see what Kuro cooks in 2.0 (personally I want something in the level of the Spiral of Chronos Chapter in terms of epicness)
@@stormz4113 this entire comment is so based actually 🫶🏽
glad you’re enjoying the game so far! hope 2.0 brings that heat 🗣️🔥
I feel you about the story. The last 2 patches have been pretty bad (in my opinion) in regards to the story.
I actually stopped playing for a week as I was so annoyed with Camellya's companion quest, but then decided fuck it and just started playing again, but skipping the story. Thank fuck we have a skip button.
I dont really feel much of the presence of these players in some of the groups i joined in, since most of them are pretty much blocked by the admins. I do hope these kinds of people are the minority. Although I've been glazing kuro since pgr first cam on global(have known them in cn), but i've never been toxic to other game nor tried to come along to their bandwagon. When wuwa techincal test was announced, the first thing that i ever wished for that once this game got released, i hoped that the fandom won't become like genshin ever did. seems like that was too wishful.
This is what pre chapter 9 of pgr players also felt, then the reverse happens
This is what I’ve been saying, I’ve seen so many WuWa fans just spam WuWa or genshin videos with “genshin could never” or some annoying, thing like arguing about how genshin story is worse then WuWa (which…. They are both pretty uh not good and I’d liked to think Kirk will make it like PGR were at first it’s bad but takes off, but for now BA’s and Arknights are arguably better in my opinion)
and then they use emotes like 😂😂😂😂 or 😊😊😊, it just looks and feels like talking to a child who just learned how to type.
Also keep in mind, former genshin players also flocked to WuWa which while not all are toxic… we probably got the loudest ones…
Edit: I can’t really watch your video since it’s midnight lol, maybe I missed something
Nice video! I agree with what you're saying. Definitely. I think the only reason that I am enjoying the story is because of how well the storytelling is being represented. The dynamics of the characters movement, the camera shots, and the small details or other cinematics are just amazing. It is incredibly overshadowing the story that it might seem the story has a really good plot when in reality it is simply very basic. In Rinascita I hope they can initiate some character interactions, interesting backstories and overall a very nice story and storytelling. PGR took quite the chapters before it hooked me in, so I hope in this 2.0 we can see some improvements nonetheless big changes in the MAIN storyline.
W opinion, and YES!!! I love want more characters to interact with EACHOTHER like I love being loved by characters as much as the next guy but can I watch some of the others actually oh idk INTERACT MORE 😭🙏🏽💯
I'm glad you are open to this discussion despite the toxic mfs seeing this as a war. We all love the game and want it to improve.
For me what the story lacks the most is a plan/objective and suspense. I know rover is trying to regain their memories but thats not enough. Just go from one place to another saving the waifu of the month and maybe someone there will know a thing or two about you.
And the thing about Rinascita is that it will be either a big hit or a huge miss. I've seen people theorizing that seeing colorful balloons everywhere in the air and teddybears walking around the street is a bait and shadier/darker things are happening in the background. If thats the case then i hope kuro delivers and not in a scooby-doo type fashion of catching the bad guy. Otherwise if its the echo-wonderland its joever.
(kinda hoping Phralova pops up and destroys the whole city 😉)
BROOO I mention that in my last vid! I NEEEEED phrolova to actually be a on screen threat rather than an off screen one 😭
plus I need the other characters to idk… INTERACT WITH EACHOTHER MORE, my boy kasumi and I feel like there’s no antagonist or main plot aside from getting our memories…. phrolova only got like what, 2 or 3 scenes over the span of 6 months? shit is so dumb 💀
The whole community is slowly turning into a toxic positivity cesspool. They developed a sort of elitism against genshin players & hating it instead of actually enjoying the game. And even the CCs are accelerating the problem even more like sintontas & kazahana. They just jump on the band blindly glazing wuwa so much it enders their mouth & exits from their anus. All while 70% of the time bi***ng about genshin/hsr & using wuwa as a launchpad. Like i don't even play genshin,just give me the info about the game i'm here for. It feels disrespectful & disingenuous to wuwa itself that its being used juat as a tool/launchpad for hating another game. I feel like they don't even like wuwa. They just found a new toy to spread hate & release their frustration towards hoyo & will move once another big game comes out
I am so tired of people getting caught up in their feelings because of a difference in opinion. It's not just a problem in gacha gaming society as a whole has become a meat rider for corporations to the point it has replaced other belief systems.
I'll never understand why people feel they need to defend a corporation from "the haters". Who gives a shit, none of you are seeing any of that money..
THATS WHAT IM SAYIN LIKE YO ASS IS GETTING PAID FOR THIS???? MUST BE MAKING BANK FR 😭😭😭
but yeah Gacha gaming is literally just a cesspool of over defensive lil bitches ngl 😔
@@RegashuDBnah if they are getting paid, I wanna know where to sign up
@App-8491
Same bro
I'm sorry you have to deal with that. Its cool that you voice your opinion with no holds barred and i shall respect that wholeheartedly.
We all have our differences and its okay to disagree something. It wont be the end of it all.
Keep cooking.
👨🏽🍳 thank u my king, I been handing out crowns left and right, u dropped this king 👑
Unfortunately Shu, The WuWa community is strikingly similar to the Genshin one. At least here on youtube :(.
If you say anything could be improved in WuWa, or you don't like something in the game, you're a hater, a Hoyo shill and the game isn't for you.
P.S the BG3 love makes me respect you even more 👊
Edit: I feel the same about Brant. I was hoping for someone a bit more... manly
Well I might as well say this now. I've been subbed and watching most (not all haha) your videos for a couple of months now.
I mostly agree with what you say. I'm less critical about wuwa story but that's about it. I enjoy your videos, looking forward to watching your next ones
W VIEWER DETECTED 🗣️🔥 HOPE TO SEE U ENJOY MANY MORE !!!
@@RegashuDB I'm fairly confident I will, by virtue of the fact you're a real PGR enjoyer haha
lil note: rinascita is pronounced as ri-nas-shi-ta
Brother man cooked again.
U ALREADY KNOW 💯🗣️🔥
It has always baffled me how some people are just really stupid.
this shit was funny af ngl
I would be honest if wuwa wasn't made by kuro games i would have quit. PGR is the only thing giving me hope for wuwa. All these genshin players be glazing anything. I mean anything.
About GI players vs wuwa players both are the same people. And 10% PGR players. But wuwa is Saint compared to genshin community. They be doing Judge Holden type shi.
Ey I'm here for the gameplay and character designs so that's that.
I agree with your points. I wanna see dark horror type stuff. And when the stakes are high and any playable character can die is the good stuff. Kuro isn't shy about killing playable characters.
More like, "torturing playable characters" I think. Since I don't really remember Kuro managed to kill any of their playable characters yet (well, there's some, but mostly it's before they became playable)
What do you actually dislike about WuWa?
Has Kuro actually made any other games besides PGR? Because ppl keep saying they specialize in dark horror and not only did I not really see that in PGR but I thought it was their only game... (I think they may have had one other really small unrelated title).
I'm glad WuWa is not like PGR because I still want OW PGR. I really want them to do a Stellar Blade/Granblue Relink style game in PGR universe. And then WuWa crossovers. I'd hate for WuWa to just be the PGR replacement lol.
@nottyseel949 pgr is indeed dark. And I like the story but early story is slow and generic. We have to catch up to cn for more good story. kuros first game was twintail battlefield it failed. But pgr is completely different. And imo PGR CN is better than wuwa.
@@m.raihanammarfachrezixpplg7898 cn Aware. It's spoilers so 🤐
@@cypureisreallybusy I get your perspective I just meant specifics. I have a very unique perspective on WuWa's story apparently so I like to hear what others, especially those not enjoying it, are seeing and discuss.
I think/hope they're setting us up for my what was my favorite part of PGR (the twins), and if so they're doing it beautifully.
Also, the Rover is very unique as an MC and far more than a harem leader (potentially).
Again my head canon could be off, but it's what I've been getting since the Amazon worker arc, which was my favorite quest. All of my favorites are actually in 1.0. What are you getting out of it?
4 being my favorite and ties into what I love about WuWa story.
Before I essay about that, pulse check if you even want to have this conversation. 😂.
Not gonna lie, I clicked the video, intending to listen to what you're gonna say, and then just fully spaced out when you started rambling and namecalling. Only later realized I haven't paid attention to anything in the first 5 minutes of the video.
Yet u were still being a W supporter, insane 🗣️🔥🙏🏽 five minutes of spacing out = five minutes of view time king 💯
Fans(especially wuwa) just trash and act tough against others instead of forexample introducing the game or explaining convincingly.
This is the type of fanbase I hate the most. I’m just yappin at this point but that’s my opinion. And I agree with u that the story is mid or even lower but I seem to enjoy it only cuz of the cutscenes. This vid made me think I Gotta use my literacy skills and brain little more when playing games so appreciate it ig.😂
Btw what’s ur fav pgr story? I’ve been a jp server player so Everything was kinda vague for me.
EMPYREA STORYLINE!!! It’s been so long since I did it and I remember certain aspects I didn’t like during the build up but Liv Empy be living in my head rent free fr 😭
@ That came out when I started the game!! I guess I’ll do it again thanks
I'm a Genshin player but as I am watching this video, I'd tell the devs that I think some mini monsters are taking more time than it should.
Hard bosses will be fun for many but hard farming is not.
i love the rrrr sounds
While you make sense with your points, calling them names doesn't make you any better.
@@craiver00 they say an eye for an eye makes the world go blind, but I don’t think me name calling them when they did it first is gonna be the end of the world 😂 W comment tho
@@RegashuDB The concept of "an eye for an eye" works in real life not in cyberspace where everyone is hiding like a beach behind screens. I get it, maybe you don't have any other way to unleash your frustration with the shizz you get online specially as a CC. I hope you find absolute peace
Just to remind yall wuwa consist mostly ex genshin itself n hsr player...it not weird how the community become like that...also there some serious issue currently being actively doing dirty thing....where these people masking themselve as the opponent fandom n try to make fun/toxic toward their own fandom just to make other people see this fandom is toxic...this ive been seein lately
I play star rail, wuwa and genshin. It should not matter if everyone plays everything, or try new things. Trying a variety in life is always good so we can compare things we have. Monopoly is never good as there will not be advancement! Don't give in to people saying crap like you should only play one lol. Life is a game play it the way you want!!!
Note summary
he likes more than 1 thing 👍
no matter what game, there will be idiotic haters, no surprises there
Finally someone admit that it's basically a circus
felt like 5 minutes of meaningless yap, i zoned out, fell asleep and died of boredom. who cares, combat is fun and if you play any of these gacha games for anything other than quick enjoyment with the combat/exploration, you definitely have a pride flag on your wall.
@@JimmyPoopsock W viewer thank you 🗣️🔥 my video brought yo ass back to life to comment this vid really was gods gift to you 🫶🏽
Damn right king
You are a well spoken gentleman, It seems that you are almost at your wit's end through occasional cursing.
But you know don't lose hope bro I actually agree on how the story was a whole ass mary sue type of shi 😂, visual was ok, and people who only want to hear what they want to hear, they deny cold hard facts to suit their mundane and false life
@@VLeo-sonofliberty thank you king you dropped this 👑
Many of my slightly old videos were a lot more mature sounding and a little more safe but i used to just have fun making videos in my SUPER early time making PGR content and i wanna go back to just having fun with it, and it seems like stating my opinions lights a fire under my ass 🤣🔥🙏🏽
I will fight you on this. What are your "cold hard facts" that the story is what you say? Let's box.
Now, before you start I'd like to remind you that Rover is a god-like being apparently and has been for ages and has not won... ever in any timeline, civilization, or simulation.
Your rebuttal please.
@nottyseel949 Alright I'll humor you. First of the story is a vile rushed clusterf*ck, the characters almost always turns to horny dogs that always want the main character reduced to nothing but waifus and husbandos instead of something interesting and relatable, they have beautiful landscapes and locations that could tell a deep story but they just get abanoned and scrapped because the new waifu will make the bucks
Yah tell them
Keep it up king
ALWAYS TRYIN TO 🗣️🔥
Genuinely, what did you dislike about the lore? 7:49
I would have thought from our conversations on PGR lore/plot you'd have found some interesting hooks like I did, but I'm beginning to think I'm the only human that's actually enjoying the story...
I also thought you'd have been all over that Stellar Blade/Granblue Relink style-PGR game idea.
We've grown apart... 😢
@@nottyseel949 bro we should talk in VC tomorrow about it, texting it is gon be a pain lmaoooo
First time watching your video 👋
WELCOME KING
@RegashuDB 👊 yes sir
The truth is ppl need to chill and touch grass. Games are games, while gachas are worst type of games out there be it Gathering Wives or Gayshit Impact... 🙄
4:08 - 4:36 this is true 🤣
Lol, I enjoy anything with anime, girls, good Acton 👍
Yea I don’t like this I’m tired of he shit 💀
I heard shu was conflicted
@@Joini_LwS I HEARD YOU WAS CONFLICTED 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
9:17 To be fair, the only time the game could have had a memorable story moment was in 1.0...but since they had to rewrite everything in such a short time, it didn't deliver properly. The following stories had a much smaller nucleo, being more about the characters' internal conflicts and discovering more things about our character. There was no attempt to make a super "epic" plot. and honestly it was better that way, there's no reason to try to take step beyond they leg when we still barely knew about the characters, and especially our character. it would just repeat the same mistake of 1.0 again.
But lets see how they will deal with renascita.
And the good parts of pgr just works on people because it took some time until they got to the hit plot points
@@whatamess8894 see but I feel like Kurogames can be good enough to deliver an over arching story whilst simultaneously allowing us to get to know and understand the characters. I 100% can agree on the smaller character stories being welll…. OK but idk I feel like Kuro could have gave us a little more oomf to the story my king 🗣️🔥
@@RegashuDB I think they also have the capacity to do this, but under different circumstances.
the rewrite of the story, we don't know to what extent this could have affected them and how much they could elaborate and adapt for the game, I don't think the 1.x versions would have given them that opportunity in this circumstance. If we had a more normal schedule maybe... but that wasn't the case.
It may seem like I'm using this fact a lot to give them an excuse, but it's undeniably a factor, in recent interviews it was said that the guys threw away 1 year of history, I even think that 1.x would have a lot more than only up to 1.4
hate breeds hate. Comparing A to B because A isn't like B is never a great idea. Although wuwa story lacks in many places, I don't think they lack because "wuwa isn't like pgr".
Is it just me or Zani is actually a Batgirl?
You know what is funny to me about the whole "lore" debacle ppl seems to love around wuwa? I kinda dont care about the lore? Yes it is mid, and a very low mid at that very close to shit.
I might read, maybe skip. Mostly skip depending on my avaliable tome to slog trough it couse i want to punch shit, get new intersting bosses with cool moves to learn and shit on them latter, see the cool places, hear cool music ( Wuwa is kinda lacking, but PGR music is tough competition to rise up ), look at nice jiggles. Read and lear new techs when i have time to do it.
Yes i would like to have better reading material in Wuwa, but i kinda dont. I'm already busy AF reading other stuff to become emotionaly invested in the lore os MORE STUFF, and i'm glad it is as mid as it is.
this is actually a W take, sometimes it’s good to play something mid on the side interms of story when you wanna emotionally invest in other game stories or other game characters. Wuwa is fun as hell to play
also idk bout the Zani bit bro, idk no bats with black horns and a little demon tail 🤣
Truth 1 : It always been genshin community ,like 60-80% is ex - genshin player .
Truth 2 : You cant form your personal opinion in this gacha community .
Sadly a major of wuwa players were genshin players
in my opinion, more likely,
majority of Wuwa players are the "My first gacha game is genshin" players, turned genshin haters and are now wuwashills(cause they only ever played maybe 2-3 games before less than 10 at best, cause of short attention spans)
@@kley281 yeah definitely plus a lot of Pgr fans who are people who came from Pgr, kuro’s another game either left cause it wasn’t like Pgr or it’s become it isn’t as big of a community like genshin
Lmao
just zorked to this
HUH????! 😭😭😭😭
love this vid lol
Mmm the thumbnail 😓all i see is two gawk gawk gawk!!
THATS INSANE LMFAO 😭😭😭😭
I agree
I kinda agree WuWa is s### with storylines
It aint that good or memorable
Im still waiting for the 2.0 update
So if its a good storyline its worth it
@@Shuster807 dead ass, gotta agree bro 💯
It need Liv arc on rinacita then it good to goo more blood... blood for the blood go..shit wrong game
It's my favorite by far of the recent games in question. I'd give it a C+.
I physically can't get through Genshin's story and the payoff is never worth it.
PGR's payoff is worth it but it's actually almost harder to get through because it's way too bloated with exposition and completely useless narration. They spend literal pages talking about cracks on the wall and it actually gets worse as the game goes on for some reason.
So, yeah, WuWa wins for me just for being easy to get through, plot-focused, direct, and a unique and connected MC. Which is a surprisingly low bar, but it is what it is with these gacha games, lol.
i can't stand the comments of hoyotards some are misplaced,after the experience i had with with GI....nope
Cooked em😭
shit is sad fr 😭😭😭🙏🏽
I mean if you're not willing to wait, there many other gacha coming out, you can go switch to them and wait again. Rinse and repeat, or Play Hoyo games. or better Heaven Burn Red. Come back whenever. Why the hurry? Getting defensive and painting in a broad brush too with playing with words. Are you all that differents? Haters and Video like this make me laugh so much. You all think your are so special.
@@kishineagle2593 bro said i think I’m special, musta missed the word “some” rather than “all” you okay my W supporter? 💀
Bro thinks he's so special but in reality said a whole lot of nothing but word salad, could not resist mentioning hoyo and did not watch the video. 💀 You shills are all the same.
I have a question why you play wuwa?
for the hot ppl, combat, and hopefully Kurogames making the story better cuz the only other reason I play is BECAUSE of Kuro lmaoooo
Firstly when you throw an opinion better be prepared that some rando will give gis opinion about how trash your opinion is that's basically basic animal behaviour found in human brain. 😂 Jokes aside Sensitive people should not and be interacting with the online world. Be it Genshin community wuwa community a vast amount of people there can't stand opinions and criticisms.
Nah bro called balders gate 3 peak gaming. opinions clearly do not align thus you are wrong about everything
NOOOOOO 😭😭😭😭
i hope you wont need to make another video it further explain things cuz this is pretty dang embarrassing
Watched Cap's vid. Love Cap. But man the comments is a cesspool. Lol.
Some comments are even gaslighting you. Extremely childish behaviour.
Been here since your PGR days and before your emo voice monologues. You're doing great, the game and community values your constructive criticism.
EMO VOICE DAYS IS INSANE 😭😭😭 FINALLY AN OG EMERGES FROM THE ASHES 🗣️🔥
U DROPPED THIS KING 👑
Lol "communities".
Eh I'm playing wuwa more for the flashy engaging gameplay than anything. the lore could be good or bad im playing it either way.
PGR gameplay is way too complex for me so call me lizardbrained. i cant ping for shit.
Ww just got the mechanics to feel good enough and have enough skill expression that im willing to stick with it.
this is one of the reasons why im kinda excited for rinascita even with the lorebombs that dropped. a carnival could be a nice change of pace for now. and im a sucker for amazing looking architecture.
but yeah. once ww goes the whole damage sponge and nothing else route, and then drop characters that even trip in the slight direction of nahida or neuvillette.... me and wws relationship gonna be strained as hell.
i started watching your content cause youve got the most normal takes on ww. unlike a certain creator that can only glaze and provide very little constructive criticism, you know what you want from the devs and with pgr experience can point to a direction theyve already gone before.
thats nice to hear yknow. so keep at it and hopefully you still stick around post-carnival aesthetic. heres to hoping the lore gets as dark as digitalized genocide then get rewarded 40asterites dark eventually again.
peacepeace.
So tldr the game is shit
THATS INSANE 🤣🤣🤣
I saw like two videos from you on this topic and those are the only times i feel you’ve came up for me and the way you came across was just really edgy and annoying and it felt like if the game wasnt the way you wanted it that it was a bad game but honestly all of us want for a game to be how we envision it and at the end of the day it really is just an opinion and whether you want to continue wuwa or not is of no importance to me i think its just your demeanor? That made people feel some type of way just from my experience and first impressions of you obviously idk you or how you are all the time but i just wanted to provide a potential explanation for the reaction you got from the community anyways hopes this helps mr edgy alpha😊
I can understand about having personal opinions, but pls don't reinforce your opinion with cabinetz
You got yours, she got her even if they are so bad that even looks like double intentions (very agenda like)
And where were you mainly criticized?
I hear you justifying yourself, telling your own side of the story, but where was the other?
It's better to have a full context
I think you are being just as soft. Gl tho.
@@Lopaloos nah just needa remind people there’s such a thing as liking more than 1 thing
This is why I have mostly stopped engaging with this overly toxic community which is nothing but a joke and take suggestion/opinion as personal offense as if someone is abusing them 🥱
shit is exhausting sometimes on god 🤷🏽♂️