Alan Wake 2 has a beautiful natural lighting look to it that I appreciate even at 50 brightness using HGIG. This is coming from someone who loves 1500 bit specular highlights.
I literally stopped playing the game for a while waiting for the updated recommended settings! Your channel has been a huge help in making my games look better! Especially for Final Fantasy XVI and Resident Evil games! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
I feel like you could do a video about Lilium's HDR Reshade tools. A lot of people actually don't know about it and that you can fix black level raise in certain games (Cyberpunk for example) with the HDR black level floor fix shader.
Hi man just wanna say i liked your livestream the other day, it was really cool and i think you should do a livestream like that ones a week with a new topic every time, like next time let the livestream be best TV topic, and next time best Monitor topic and maybe best game 2023, yeah anything would be cool, it was really great and thanks for this video 🤗
So I think LG fixed the dynamic tone mapping for the G3. Setting the inhame brightness to 50 and turning on dynamic tone mapping instead hgig produces a better image the hgig by a long shot. Black dark areas are still dark and black without raised black levels and there is more detail in the dark areas, colors are better as well and the image looked much more natural and bright. Definitely try it out. Remember, set the in game brightness to 50 before turning on dynamic tone mapping in game mode. It looks like hgig but without the black crush and dull image.
Great work as always! 👏 How about setting up the system level HDR incorrectly on purpose and going for 1000-1200 nits peak brightness on an 800 nit display? Of course that would lose us some detail in the brightest highlights, but it should bring most other highlights closer to the display‘s peak brightness without lifting the black floor, right? I‘ll do some experimenting on that as well, once I get my hands on the game. Can‘t wait to play it! 🤩
I had to come check this video because after playing several other games (and loving Lilium's analysis tool), i was surprised to see Alan Wake 2 only outputting in a Bt.709 color space. The new Cyberpunk 2.1 update kind of blew me away with its improved color depth in HDR, so i'm wondering if there's something i'm missing or if this is just the way the game was authored.
Thanks for your video, very insightful. Playing on a G3 here. Do you use the black stabilizer, white stabiliser, and/or fine tune dark area settings on this game? If so, can you share your settings?
Hey GT. New sub here. Are you planning, or could you do a vid on the Starfield update which put HDR, bright/contrast sliders in game? I was using -30 FTDA on my LG C3 like you suggested a while back and thought it looked pretty good. Now I can't stop fiddling with it. I defer to the expert. Thanks!
Have you manually made your G2 OLED enter the BT 2020 color space for HDR coming from your PC? I see in your UI tray, you have the BT 709 listed as the color space the app is running in. Many modern OLEDs seem to require you to force HDR content into BT2020 for it to be running in it's proper native HDR color space
Personally, I use 75 game brightness and tv black level 49/100 instead of default of 50/100, using hgig in dark room. The recommended average screen nits is 300-400, without causing eye strain.
HDR is such a pain the ass. I have an Acer Predator X32fp and it wasn't cheap by any means. HDR gaming content either looks washed out, or barely better than running the thing at default SDR. Really annoys me you have to spend an hour just to get the calibration "correct" and then it merely looks ok. Sure the whites are pretty white and bright things like fire look fantastic, but is it really worth the hassle?
If i'm using a LCD display and its black point is already higher than the content's black level floor, does the black level floor makes any difference? Like, if i get the black level floor even lower, will it make any difference?
Black level raise can be tuned easily on PC. But for people on console everything is dependent of the developer and native support for system level calibration. This is the reason my PS5 is more collecting dust than being used. I'll rather gane on PC because we can fix HDR easily now regardless of the game.
@@nsinghc2799 DL reshade and DL lilium shaders. Run reshade app, direct it to the game folder and copy over shader and texture folder from lilium to the game folder where reshade folders are located. Now, enable windows hdr and run the game, max out hdr brightness levels in game, press home key and enable lilium tone mapping. Set your levels to your max tv peak brightness. Enable lilium black floor shader and tick sdr black floor emulation. Enable lilium hdr analysis tool and check the brightness and black levels. Tune down the black level even more if its not 0.00000000. It should be completely black. Now enjoy hdr gaming, no raised black levels and full tone mapping to your TVs peak brightness. Pro tip: Also use HGIG in your TV. Also enable 10-bit,RGB and FULL in your Nvidia graphics driver settings.
I noticed that on 100 brightness yes it is much brighter but you loose a lot of details look at 4:08 you can clearly see the sky at 50% while at 100% all you see is white clouds because of the high brightness levels, I personally prefer a more natural look, this game is a very dark game so if you are having problems seeing in the dark adjust the black levels on the TV, but then we are all using different TVs to play this game, some times I play it on the samsung Neo G8 monitor which is very bright and the settings will be totally different than my Oled TV.
That's almost certainly the camera not being able to capture the range of what the TV was displaying. That's why it's always a bit iffy to capture footage off screen like that. If he adjusted his camera exposure to compensate it would have darkened the rest of the image and just made it look more similar to the 50 image
@stephenpatterson8056 I have the game too and I have played around with the brightness and I noticed how brightness affects the overall picture, same with black levels, I prefer to have a balanced picture where I can see more details.
@@JoelsterG4k I've been playing it and have it either maxed or near maxed, can't remember. It will also depend on your display. If you're playing on almost any WOLED display you wouldn't want to have it maxed most likely. I'm playing on a bright QLED with around 1400nit peak brightness so I can raise it and nothing clips. All the highlights just get brighter while all the details remain intact. Game looks great. Makes me wish they would have had native HDR implemented back when I played Control
@@stephenpatterson8056 I have two different OLED HDR panels. One can handle high peak brightness, without losing any details… while another panel do lose detail when setting brightness levels too high. It's definitely something you can't see on through the camera lens when watching basic youtube video :D It would be kind of impossible.
Looking through your channel, it doesn't look like you've done much recently regarding Dolby Vision on Xbox Series consoles - if you have, I apologize for the question. Is your consensus to not use Dolby Vision on Series consoles and simply rely on HGIG (or in my Vizio's case turning on Game HDR) along with properly calibrated System HDR Settings or is keeping Dolby Vision on a solid option? Does this (or any game) HDR brightness "fix" even matter in this game if you are using Dolby Vision since Dolby Vision is supposed to be doing all the work anyways?
Die Gamefilter sind ein Problem mit HDR.Das hat ein Entwickler schon geschrieben...übrigens der gleiche der den HDR Patch für Control gemacht hat. Mit den Filter wir HDR nie ganz Perfekt sein
if on PC its still better to use the mod that natively adds HDR ( NOT THE NATIVE HDR MOD THERE IS A NEW ONE NOW THAT IS MUCH BETTER ). HDR is still bad in the game
Hi, GT. I have a 43qn90b, which has a peak brightness of 980 nits in console hdr gaming, according to RTINGS. What do you propose in terms of the in-game brightness setting?
This looks absolutely gorgeous on your screen and in HDR on youtube, but I know that a recording of a screen does not look the same as IRL. I'm having a lot of difficulty getting my A95L to look like this on windows 11. Looks sharp, but seems a little washed out
Yes, depending on wheter you care more about bright highlights (then it's closer to 100), or you want to have a black level floor thats closer to 0 (then it's closer to 75). Without almost completely losing the bright highlights, like it's basically the case when setting it to 50 or lower.
I had sync issues as well on the ps5. Make sure the sound setting is on linear pcm. Seems to be an issue with Dolby or something I find on the ps5 when it comes to cutscenes
@@edwardgrantmusicnyc None of the console versions have native HDR and the one on PC is only available through the mod. You might be mistaking it for auto hdr.
@@GamingTech-TH-cam thanks for the answer. I asked because you said IT in the previous video and didnt mention it in this one. Big fan of your Channel btw.
You have to turn up the brightness to appreciate the day and turn it down to appreciate the shadows in dark places. Bruh, they did a terrible job with this lol
Always RGB and changing Inputs to PC. Even for consoles. Go to Home Dashboard - long click on home button on a TV remote, in upper right conner click on 3 dots, Edit, Edit Inputs, change icon on selected HDMI device to PC, save. And of course make sure you are using Game Optimiser picture mode in TV picture settings.
5:26 это ужасно... яркость 150 нит... я ненавижу эту игру... пытался посмотреть геймплей на ютуб и не мог понять в каком месте тут HDR... если яркость как на офисном мониторе...
hdr is trash, I gave up on it a long time ago. It needs to be fully manually tuned by the actual artists making the textures, otherwise, you get a washed out joke that wasn't the artists' intentions. The washed out mid tone scenes is one problem, brights not being bright enough and darks not being dark enough is another. But worst of all, vetical banding. I've seen vertical banding every TV I've ever used. In dimly lit scenes that should probably be fading to black look really washed and have large vertical collumns and more on the left side of the screen for some reason. An then there's constantly having to change up all your settings, TV, GPU, in game settings, every time you switch content. give me a break! 👎 Sdr's way to go, and I don't see this changing until they realize hdr CANNOT be a linear application, ruins the low color low light scenes, it needs to be tuned specifically to brights, darks and color highlights.
On Xbox is broken, it gives a grey tone that looks dark and awful. the colors are dead. It looks so bad that the real HDR is no HDR. remedy amateur hour
I honestly don't understand the hype around this super annoying game? it doesn't even look particularly good (at least on console), compared to games like COD, TLOU Remake etc ... unfortunately I deeply regret the money I spent here
"If you want to increase the light brightness,increase the game brightness"... What a genius... "If you increase the brightness,your black will be brighter... Wow,great,ty,didn't know. "I can't give you any setting..."". Is it possible to block a channel? I need it quick !
This whiskhot doesn't understand your message. It's about the impact of each setting when you change them. How much impact it has. I am glad that I have subscribed to your channel. I find your videos very helpful and I learned from them. Keep it up Bro ! @@GamingTech-TH-cam
Alan Wake 2 has a beautiful natural lighting look to it that I appreciate even at 50 brightness using HGIG. This is coming from someone who loves 1500 bit specular highlights.
I literally stopped playing the game for a while waiting for the updated recommended settings! Your channel has been a huge help in making my games look better! Especially for Final Fantasy XVI and Resident Evil games! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
You keep improving the quality of the videos. This will pay off.
This was great
Thanks Buddy. I haven't had much time for this one to be honest. I feel like it is rushed
Thanks for this HDR legend you are playing for my birthday today ☺️
I feel like you could do a video about Lilium's HDR Reshade tools. A lot of people actually don't know about it and that you can fix black level raise in certain games (Cyberpunk for example) with the HDR black level floor fix shader.
I used this on starfield and along with a few other mods it looked great.
Hi man just wanna say i liked your livestream the other day, it was really cool and i think you should do a livestream like that ones a week with a new topic every time, like next time let the livestream be best TV topic, and next time best Monitor topic and maybe best game 2023, yeah anything would be cool, it was really great and thanks for this video 🤗
Finished it on 75 before the patches, was pretty happy with the look on my C2.
So I think LG fixed the dynamic tone mapping for the G3. Setting the inhame brightness to 50 and turning on dynamic tone mapping instead hgig produces a better image the hgig by a long shot. Black dark areas are still dark and black without raised black levels and there is more detail in the dark areas, colors are better as well and the image looked much more natural and bright. Definitely try it out. Remember, set the in game brightness to 50 before turning on dynamic tone mapping in game mode. It looks like hgig but without the black crush and dull image.
Thank you once again for your video brother 😎
I noticed my image was brighter when I booted the game last night
Thanks for the update
Great work as always! 👏
How about setting up the system level HDR incorrectly on purpose and going for 1000-1200 nits peak brightness on an 800 nit display? Of course that would lose us some detail in the brightest highlights, but it should bring most other highlights closer to the display‘s peak brightness without lifting the black floor, right? I‘ll do some experimenting on that as well, once I get my hands on the game. Can‘t wait to play it! 🤩
excellent analysis
I had to come check this video because after playing several other games (and loving Lilium's analysis tool), i was surprised to see Alan Wake 2 only outputting in a Bt.709 color space. The new Cyberpunk 2.1 update kind of blew me away with its improved color depth in HDR, so i'm wondering if there's something i'm missing or if this is just the way the game was authored.
Love the BT.2020 FBI text on her coat
This is the game that made me discover VRR flicker, with HDR enabled and the game having lots of dark moments it is pretty noticeable sadly.
Thanks for your video, very insightful. Playing on a G3 here. Do you use the black stabilizer, white stabiliser, and/or fine tune dark area settings on this game? If so, can you share your settings?
Hey GT. New sub here. Are you planning, or could you do a vid on the Starfield update which put HDR, bright/contrast sliders in game? I was using -30 FTDA on my LG C3 like you suggested a while back and thought it looked pretty good. Now I can't stop fiddling with it. I defer to the expert. Thanks!
Have you manually made your G2 OLED enter the BT 2020 color space for HDR coming from your PC? I see in your UI tray, you have the BT 709 listed as the color space the app is running in. Many modern OLEDs seem to require you to force HDR content into BT2020 for it to be running in it's proper native HDR color space
😂
The game mode looks sharp. Very impressive
Personally, I use 75 game brightness and tv black level 49/100 instead of default of 50/100, using hgig in dark room. The recommended average screen nits is 300-400, without causing eye strain.
HDR is such a pain the ass. I have an Acer Predator X32fp and it wasn't cheap by any means. HDR gaming content either looks washed out, or barely better than running the thing at default SDR. Really annoys me you have to spend an hour just to get the calibration "correct" and then it merely looks ok. Sure the whites are pretty white and bright things like fire look fantastic, but is it really worth the hassle?
Is the settings for Series X on the LG CX the same as the previous Alan Wake 2 video ?
What if increasing the peak brightness in the system level and keep paperwhite at default 50?
Gamingtech Starfield HDR patch is live on Xbox, would love to hear your recommendation with the new sliders. Thank you as always!
On my mini LED monitor in hdr i still get crushed blacks even with brightness set to 100, maybe i did wrong the system level calibration?
@Gaming Tech Hast du die Fine Tune Settings am LG bei -4 gelassen in dem du bei Alan Wake 2 die spiel Helligkeit auf 100 gestellt hast ?
I also wondered that
Do you have an opinion on where to set game brightness on the Samsung S95C?
If i'm using a LCD display and its black point is already higher than the content's black level floor, does the black level floor makes any difference? Like, if i get the black level floor even lower, will it make any difference?
I just turned on it 100 with Dynamic tone mapping. It looks better, in my opinion. (Using lg1).
Hi, but what about FTDA? You didn't mention it
If I have Sony tv oled 1000nits peak brightness can I lower black level to kinda match ur lg oled settings!?
Does anyone know if they fixed the lighting, shadows and jagged edges for the consoles?
I changed to SDR and then swapped back to HDR and now brightly lit areas look flat and washed. I can't fix it -.-
Black level raise can be tuned easily on PC. But for people on console everything is dependent of the developer and native support for system level calibration. This is the reason my PS5 is more collecting dust than being used. I'll rather gane on PC because we can fix HDR easily now regardless of the game.
How are you easily fixing black level raise on a PC?
@@nsinghc2799 DL reshade and DL lilium shaders. Run reshade app, direct it to the game folder and copy over shader and texture folder from lilium to the game folder where reshade folders are located. Now, enable windows hdr and run the game, max out hdr brightness levels in game, press home key and enable lilium tone mapping. Set your levels to your max tv peak brightness. Enable lilium black floor shader and tick sdr black floor emulation. Enable lilium hdr analysis tool and check the brightness and black levels. Tune down the black level even more if its not 0.00000000. It should be completely black. Now enjoy hdr gaming, no raised black levels and full tone mapping to your TVs peak brightness. Pro tip: Also use HGIG in your TV. Also enable 10-bit,RGB and FULL in your Nvidia graphics driver settings.
Why in my LG C9,if I set hdr how you recomended I end up with hdr brightness 500 nits in game settings?
I set mine to 100 game brightness and love it but what do I put the UI brightness on for lg oled tv on Xbox series x?
Lillium shaders are so usefull :)
I noticed that on 100 brightness yes it is much brighter but you loose a lot of details look at 4:08 you can clearly see the sky at 50% while at 100% all you see is white clouds because of the high brightness levels, I personally prefer a more natural look, this game is a very dark game so if you are having problems seeing in the dark adjust the black levels on the TV, but then we are all using different TVs to play this game, some times I play it on the samsung Neo G8 monitor which is very bright and the settings will be totally different than my Oled TV.
That's almost certainly the camera not being able to capture the range of what the TV was displaying. That's why it's always a bit iffy to capture footage off screen like that. If he adjusted his camera exposure to compensate it would have darkened the rest of the image and just made it look more similar to the 50 image
In the reality you will not spot so much details of clouds etc when the sun is shining bright on your eye and surroundings to be fair
@stephenpatterson8056 I have the game too and I have played around with the brightness and I noticed how brightness affects the overall picture, same with black levels, I prefer to have a balanced picture where I can see more details.
@@JoelsterG4k I've been playing it and have it either maxed or near maxed, can't remember. It will also depend on your display. If you're playing on almost any WOLED display you wouldn't want to have it maxed most likely. I'm playing on a bright QLED with around 1400nit peak brightness so I can raise it and nothing clips. All the highlights just get brighter while all the details remain intact. Game looks great. Makes me wish they would have had native HDR implemented back when I played Control
@@stephenpatterson8056 I have two different OLED HDR panels. One can handle high peak brightness, without losing any details… while another panel do lose detail when setting brightness levels too high. It's definitely something you can't see on through the camera lens when watching basic youtube video :D It would be kind of impossible.
Looking through your channel, it doesn't look like you've done much recently regarding Dolby Vision on Xbox Series consoles - if you have, I apologize for the question. Is your consensus to not use Dolby Vision on Series consoles and simply rely on HGIG (or in my Vizio's case turning on Game HDR) along with properly calibrated System HDR Settings or is keeping Dolby Vision on a solid option?
Does this (or any game) HDR brightness "fix" even matter in this game if you are using Dolby Vision since Dolby Vision is supposed to be doing all the work anyways?
I'm playing on lg cx and xsx, and kind liked the dolby vision with your settings. Do you recommend turn dolby vision off?
The only bad thing about dolby vision is the extra lag that it creates. Is just personal preference and if you can stand the extra lag or not.
Don’t forget to turn off all your lights Tony and embrace all that HDR blinding goodness lol
Can you post your tv gaming settings
Die Gamefilter sind ein Problem mit HDR.Das hat ein Entwickler schon geschrieben...übrigens der gleiche der den HDR Patch für
Control gemacht hat. Mit den Filter wir HDR nie ganz Perfekt sein
Do you leave the fine tune dark areas setting tho
i love deinen deutschen akzent
Starfield just got HDR settings and contrast, brightness sliders in the latest update.
I play on series x and noticed the game dropped frame’s significantly looks terrible rn. Anyone else experience this
Starfield
if on PC its still better to use the mod that natively adds HDR ( NOT THE NATIVE HDR MOD THERE IS A NEW ONE NOW THAT IS MUCH BETTER ). HDR is still bad in the game
Lamefield
12 TF hype and only 30 fps with mediocre HDR… welcome to Xbox.
Hi, GT. I have a 43qn90b, which has a peak brightness of 980 nits in console hdr gaming, according to RTINGS. What do you propose in terms of the in-game brightness setting?
Great gaming TV.. masterpiece
@@samiamiral7709 Indeed 👍
The game knows my max nits is 1700 so should I put my settings 1000 total with 500 on and 500 at the bottom . I am on series x
i dont' want get my eyes blind that early
This looks absolutely gorgeous on your screen and in HDR on youtube, but I know that a recording of a screen does not look the same as IRL. I'm having a lot of difficulty getting my A95L to look like this on windows 11. Looks sharp, but seems a little washed out
You are going to have to do a starfield updated HDR video lol. Game companys are keeping you busy
Would love for you to do remedy’s last game “Control” HDR settings. Any chance?
Control only has HDR through a patch on the PC version. It uses the calibrated settings for windows.
He already did 8 months ago. Please search before you comment.
Control has official auto HDR support on xbox series x just like Alan Wake remastered
Can you do Starfield for XSX next? It finally got the HDR settings update today... vielen dank!
Oh sh*t I didn't know they finally did the update!!
Done 😀
You are the bestes!
So the best option for CX is 75 or 100 in the slider of brightness?
Yes, depending on wheter you care more about bright highlights (then it's closer to 100), or you want to have a black level floor thats closer to 0 (then it's closer to 75). Without almost completely losing the bright highlights, like it's basically the case when setting it to 50 or lower.
Lg oled c9, HDR brightness 50, DTM on
So 50,75 or 100 please?
75 ??
it's really interesting but now I switch to Tone Mapping On instead of HGIG for most new games ... does anyone else have this experience?
Yes
Has the Lip Sync improved in Xbox Series X?
I had sync issues as well on the ps5. Make sure the sound setting is on linear pcm. Seems to be an issue with Dolby or something I find on the ps5 when it comes to cutscenes
How do you have that data from your tv?
This game has horrendous banding and near black image. Control had the same issue.
You doing hdr setting for Avatar Frontiers Of Pandora?
Already done
My c2 hits 500 nits at 100 brightness.
For a2 oled please😢
50 looks more realistic to me
Can you do an HDR settings for Control ultimate edition? Thanks!
He did about a year ago
@@KM_47no that was for a mod on PC
@@edwardgrantmusicnyc None of the console versions have native HDR and the one on PC is only available through the mod. You might be mistaking it for auto hdr.
@@KM_47control ultimate edition for Ps5 and series X has HDR
if i need to watch a HDR video for every patch for every game because HDR always changes i don't want HDR anymore
What about setting on 50 and dtm on??? I think it looks great
Specular Highlights will be dim compared to 100 and HGiG
@@GamingTech-TH-cam ok thank you Markus.i will try a littble bit and then Decide. Geschmäcker sind ja verschieden😎
Danke für deine Arbeit
What about the fine tune dark areas setting?
Not needed in this game
@@GamingTech-TH-cam thanks for the answer. I asked because you said IT in the previous video and didnt mention it in this one. Big fan of your Channel btw.
You have to turn up the brightness to appreciate the day and turn it down to appreciate the shadows in dark places. Bruh, they did a terrible job with this lol
Question: I have a LG C1 should I use RGB or YCbR for my amd driver? Thank you.
Rgb
RGB
Always RGB and changing Inputs to PC. Even for consoles. Go to Home Dashboard - long click on home button on a TV remote, in upper right conner click on 3 dots, Edit, Edit Inputs, change icon on selected HDMI device to PC, save. And of course make sure you are using Game Optimiser picture mode in TV picture settings.
Wonderful advice! Than you brother! @@JackJohnson-br4qr
5:26 это ужасно... яркость 150 нит...
я ненавижу эту игру...
пытался посмотреть геймплей на ютуб и не мог понять в каком месте тут HDR... если яркость как на офисном мониторе...
может разработчики специально сделали в игре яркость 100 нит чтобы ты БЫЛ ВЫНУЖДЕН ИГРАТЬ В ТЕМНОТЕ?)))
Hey i have that lamp!
😁
Funny becouse I'm watching another youtuber and I noticed he has that lamp too. 😂
@@JackJohnson-br4qr it's a very nice lamp! XD
hdr is trash, I gave up on it a long time ago. It needs to be fully manually tuned by the actual artists making the textures, otherwise, you get a washed out joke that wasn't the artists' intentions. The washed out mid tone scenes is one problem, brights not being bright enough and darks not being dark enough is another.
But worst of all, vetical banding. I've seen vertical banding every TV I've ever used. In dimly lit scenes that should probably be fading to black look really washed and have large vertical collumns and more on the left side of the screen for some reason.
An then there's constantly having to change up all your settings, TV, GPU, in game settings, every time you switch content. give me a break!
👎 Sdr's way to go, and I don't see this changing until they realize hdr CANNOT be a linear application, ruins the low color low light scenes, it needs to be tuned specifically to brights, darks and color highlights.
On Xbox is broken, it gives a grey tone that looks dark and awful. the colors are dead. It looks so bad that the real HDR is no HDR. remedy amateur hour
I honestly don't understand the hype around this super annoying game? it doesn't even look particularly good (at least on console), compared to games like COD, TLOU Remake etc ... unfortunately I deeply regret the money I spent here
"If you want to increase the light brightness,increase the game brightness"... What a genius...
"If you increase the brightness,your black will be brighter... Wow,great,ty,didn't know.
"I can't give you any setting..."".
Is it possible to block a channel? I need it quick !
🤣🤡
This whiskhot doesn't understand your message. It's about the impact of each setting when you change them. How much impact it has. I am glad that I have subscribed to your channel. I find your videos very helpful and I learned from them. Keep it up Bro ! @@GamingTech-TH-cam