The Disturbing Elder Scrolls "Iceberg" Conspiracies Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2024
- Elder Scrolls iceberg conspiracy theories explained in 4 tiers of the most interesting, shocking, disturbing, and strange unknown game theories for the Bethesda game series of Elder Scrolls, which includes Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, Daggerfall, and ESO or Elder Scrolls Online. This video is a deep dive into gaming conspiracy theories and gaming iceberg and conspiracy iceberg gaming theories. Game theories.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:53 Tier 1 - Nirn
11:54 Tier 2 - Aetherius
23:52 Tier 3 - Aurbis
36:55 Tier 4 - Oblivion
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"And in skyrim you play as this idiot."
I've never heard a more apt description of the Dragonborn
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Vigilant in particular has some incredibly epic boss fights and really cool takes on the daedric realms
@@jakecarlson3709 deadric is the most poverfull in the but i didnt play dlc so i i realy cant know who is the most powerful.
I really don't know if this question fits here, but your comment provoked it, so I leave it here in hopes you guys can make something of it.
Apart from the Dragonborn being an idiot, how is he not bound to destroy or at least subjugate the world? As I understand it, he has the soul of a dragon and he consumed lots of dragon souls on top of it - and dragons are depicted as having this deep, inherent craving and lust for power, destruction and violence. Wasn't there even an especially powerful dragon who removed himself from the world in order to keep it safe from him?
So how is he not bound to inevitably get overwhelmed by all of this and turns evil?
@@Furzkampfbomber > So how is he not bound to inevitably get overwhelmed by all of this and turns evil?
He is bound to do those things. After destroying all of Nirn, he moved to Earth, and changed his name to Klaus Schwab.
One thing I think everyone overlooks is that the Dwemer had the Dragon Elder Scroll in their possession when they vanished.
The same Scroll that sent alduin forward in time.
Did the Dwemer get sent forward, or back though, is the question.
@@darwinbwe4060 if they were sent back the race would still be in the games
@@dirpyturtle69 depends on how far back.
@@adamkaris
Nah, we have documentation of the Dawn Era so, unless they got tossed into a previous Kalpa, which I'm sure isn't possible as the Kalpa keeps moving forward, well... the past "Kalpa" is now gone and doesn't exist.
And if they even did, Dwemer would unravel back to our time regardless, unless they died off as a race at the same time they disappeared at Red Mountain which means... gone either way
@@thalmoragent9344 maybe they went back to the previous Kalpa, into nonexistence. Or the next, or caused a timeline split
The Dreugh didn't rule Nirn thousands of years ago, they ruled it in a previous kalpa cycle. In other words they ruled Nirn in a previous cycle of creation and destruction of the universe in a totally different time.
...so they still ruled nirn. thousands of years ago.
And Molag Baal was their king back then, so it's never complete destruction anyway. Just mixing up the playing field.
@@nouhorni3229 if time is reset is it even the same time line? You won't be able to find any old dreugh ruins because it all got wiped away in the reset.
Alduin you naughty boy
@@RKGrizz how do the dreugh exist then?
@@babyfaec They were created again during the new Kalpa?
One thing to note is that The Reaper is fought in the Soul Cairn which itself is a plane of oblivion so its most certainly is a daedric entity, hence the daedric heart it drops.
Yep makes total sense good point, thanks for watching by the way means a lot!
also you need to have reaper soul gem fragments to get him to spawn you cant just go to the tower
on the whole rorikstead thing, it seems to me like bethesda had planned a side quest that deals with the whole daedra thing but it probably got scrapped, which makes sense because rorikstead is one of the few places in the game that has very few quests attached to it
I think Rorikstead only has like two quests connected to it
@@Epelpaj wait Rorikstead have quests?
@OOMPHLA GWUMPLA Rorikstead gives out only one quest: Erik the Slayer. And I think only involves two other ones: A Night To Remember, In My Time Of Need. So three in total
It's pretty obvious that there was going to be a quest.
Lokir the first person that you see die in Skyrim is from Rorikstead
By far the most deep lore nuts theory is that the towers across Nirn hold reality together like locks and that the high elves want to revert to spirit beings and are slowly trying to destroy the towers to facilitate the destruction of reality. We KNOW several of the towers have stopped working, but we don't know how many are still in operation. Another interesting theory is of course that the ban of Talos worship wasn't a religious disagreement, but rather them trying to make Talos's powers dry up and he would fade from existence through lack of worship.
I think the only 'tower' still in operation is the adamantine spire in high rock
There is an in-game book "The Book of Dragonborn" in Skyrim, which describes the Prophecy of the Last Dragonborn that speaks of the fall of the four great towers bringing about the return of Alduin.
Talos was just another shezzarine, even if he is forgotten lorkhan will just be mantled again. Apotheosis is a bitch like that. The tower reset is just a way to undo the work of the aedra and reverse lorkhans trick of creation.
Edit: the fact that mundus is basically the realm of lorkhan proves the elves will fail. No mundus no games lol. What would be cool is a subplot where magnus and the magna gi interfere to stop reality unraveling. This could undo their accidental act of allowing magic to flow into the world from the higher planes thereby causing a catastrophe of a different kind. Perhaps stripping the elves of their overwhelming magical advantage. Just an interesting thought
As an obsessive Elder Scrolls deep lore enjoyer it's really refreshing to hear a more straightforward and to the point explanation of these topics. Seems like a really good starting-off point for anyone who's looking to get into TES lore theories w/o all the nitty-gritty details that other creators present.
do you have any channel recomendation to learn more about the lore?
@@LucasGabriel-lk3ql I actually do have some I think are worth checking out, here they are:
FudgeMuppet, they have a big backlog of lore content, not to mention, they're also hosting a podcast about TES (also character build ideas for Skyrim)
TheEpicNate315, videos on theories surrounding more mysterious parts of the lore (semi-active)
Camelworks, (VERY) long-form videos about various topics mainly pertaining to Skyrim, "Curating Curious Curiosities" series is a must-watch
Imperial Knowledge, focused strictly on documenting Elder Scrolls lore
For more casual lore and story tidbits I also recommend checking out LeftoverPat and Avarti
Also, also ShoddyCast has a 43 episode long series on TES Lore, as well as a smaller ten part piece on Skyrim
@@olafharlender thanks
"Dwemer were peaceful" pardon?
Dwemer had plenty of wars even among themselves for selfish reasons, biggest example that comes to mind was the etherium wars which started as collaboration but quickly fell apart when different factions wanted to control the entire supply to the entire race. They were far from peaceful. They just didnt often interact with outsiders. Passive in world affairs, but passivity doesn't mean peaceful
They’re even brutal from a societal standpoint. I wouldn’t exactly say that tricking, blinding and enslaving almost an entire race of refugees constitutes peaceful action
Not to mention they enslaved, and experimented on an entire race of Mer to the point their bodies, brains, and souls devolved into borderline animals
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True. 👍
It's true then.... Proof of Stake will cause a war... i knew it! Darned tree hugging hippies whining about a bit of electricity all the time. We should've chopped their tree down and let it fall on top of em huggerz
on one of the first topics, that of the Dreugh and their domain over Nirn, it would have probably helped the entry if you had mentioned the kalpic cycles. the Dreugh ruled over Nirn in a previous kalpa, and it is implied in the 36 Lessons that even wackier shit happened in previous kalpas.
that's why their vast civilization has no remnant or memory; the world reset and the parameters for the re-establishment of the domain of the Dreugh were not met in the current kalpa.
Totally agree will look to do it in future entries for sure, thanks a ton for the feedback by the way it helps me get better and I appreciate the support!
Hey there, loved the video, but a few points, the dwemer have never really been known for their kindness or benevolence, they're pretty much a group of cold, calculating scientists, for whom ethics are nothing more than a formality at best, also Oblivion really isn't comparable to hell for us, same with the Daedra and demons, as Daedra are a manifestation of chaos/change through the entity known as Padomay, whereas Aedra are a mix of both Padomay and Anu's blood (save for Lorkhan, who is also a force of change), so technically Oblivion isn't necessarily "evil", just represents the original chaos
Great points and thanks for the heads up, appreciate the support by the way!
@@FranklyGaming you got a new sub btw!
@@MacinteuchPlus thanks so much!
So... Tartarus? I mean, to say Oblivion is Hell doesn't seem like a far-stretch. I guess it depends on how you view the concept of "Hell".
@@sheogorathprinceofmadness2223 Oblivion planes aren't necessarily used as endless suffering for their denizens, rather those who inhabit it are followers of various daedric princes, some planes are definitely hellish though, like Dagon or Molag Bal's planes are objectively horrible and straight up a bad time, but others are more grey in nature like Meridia's, Sheogorath's or straight up good (too good maybe since it makes mortals half blind from its beauty) like Azura's
The Story behind the Snow Elves and the tragic neglect of Lore behind/surrounding them had me captivated for so long. What happened that Night of Tears, what happened between the races well before the situation came to blows, as well as the Artifacts of Auriel and Magnus being all in Skyrim. And Skyrim's possible connection to "Altmora, the Elderwood," and how that combats the Nordic claims.
As well as the Dawn Era and how the Et'Ada went about the situation before Lorkhan's treachery
I think it could be cool to have a game set in the period
@@steveisthecommissar4013
Yep, or a mini-movie series if Bethesda allies with a Studio or something, make animated or CGI films over the story of the Snow Elves in the Merethic Era up to Gelebor in the 4th Era
@@thalmoragent9344 Get over it already, the Snow Elves demise is not a big deal
@@Super50ldier
It is a big deal, the First War between Man and Mer in Tamriel after the Dawn Era is a HUGE big deal.
The arrival of Nords into Tamriel is very important, and considering the wars of Man and Mer in the Late Merethic and early First Era's... hell, even against themselves, as we know the Nords slaughtered Reachmen just as they did Snow Elves, and even butchered many Bretons for a time.
The Nordic Genocides if Northern Tamrielic is a big deal mate, but ya know....
@@thalmoragent9344 That was not the first war, the first war between Humans and Elves was the one in the Dawn Era, the War of Manifest Metaphors or Human-Elven War as I like to call it was waged between the Gods of Humans and Wandering Ehlnofey and Humans lead by both Lorkhan and Akatosh and the Gods of Elves and Old Ehlnofey and Elves lead by both Auri-El and Trinimac.
Kinda nuts how Elder Scrolls has the portrait of a high fantasy but that shit is grimdark down to the core in all actuality.
Anyone interested in seeing the lore at more face value, I recommend Vicn’s Glenmoril, Unslaad and Vigilant quest mods. They’re obviously not canon design and look-wise but they really do delve into some of the real darker elder scrolls lore, like the real stuff. The mods do take some liberties but all the quests and storylines are based off actual lore.
I’ll have to check these out because ya the elder scrolls lore can get really dark and interesting, thanks for supporting my channel!
Its not like bethesda doesn't take liberties with the lore
this shit is my little pony tier compared to Warhammer 40k or even fantasy. I do hope they take a darker more mature tone with the next elder scrolls though.
@@selectionn Nah, they'll continue the trend of every game they've made since morrowind of making it more boring and shallow.
@@honeybadger6275 from what I can understand, they have simplified the rpg sandbox aspect each game since morrowind, but also improved the gameplay aspects, this is done to make the game more attractive to a wider mainstream audience and honestly I don't mind it. I see a lot of people always hating on oblivion and Skyrim for this reason but I enjoyed both the games, it doesn't necessarily have to go that much in depth of rpg to be an enjoyable game. The elders scrolls is a game franchise always surrounded by modders, Bethesda should focus on the quality over quantity, the modders will fill the gap for what the community really wants
nice video! i was surprised by the low sub count. with quality like this, i initially thought you were up there with the big dogs like camelworks, epicnate, fudgemuppet, etc. looking forward to seeing your channel grow, keep it up!
Really really appreciate the kind words! Thanks so much for watching and supporting my channel
It’s channels like this that show their true dedication with such high quality videos like this. I hope you grow big and large.
@@tylergugliotta3524 thanks so much for the kind words it means a lot
Any channel that does “iceberg” videos usually has very little subscribers and fewer views on videos. They use the iceberg format to try and get more attention.
@@SPFLDAngler damn right we do lol, thanks for watching rhubartu ❤️
my favorite bit of elder scrolls lore is CHIM & zero-sum. CHIM is a state of being that grants an individual unlimited access to manipulate the Aurbis or the very fabric of reality however they see fit.
To achieve CHIM is to understand that you and everything else is merely a dream of a sleeping god while also retaining your individuality in the process, failing to retain individuality would result in zero summing in other words you pop out of existence.
Not a sleeping god, a sleeping Michael Kirkbride
@@teslashark Finally someone who knows his facts.
@@teslashark so that's what the godhead is called.. How majestic 😂
@@Forbidden_Chocolate He's the writer for 1, 3, 4, guest writer of 5, and mission designer for some more.
51:30 Dagon seems more likely. That town is a very obvious reference to one of Lovecraft's story:
"The Shadow over Innsmouth". In that story the town of Innsmouth is in a very similar situation and part of the reason is due to the villagers worshipping an elder being called Dagon.
Sloads are actually in themselves a reference to Lovecraft
17:50 There are problems with this idea. Most notably, there are argonians we meet in TES iv oblivion who aren't going back to Blackmarsh or who mention or seem concerned about some kind of call - even those we know hail from Blackmarsh. Its not even in the rumours in Oblivion, it only shows up *after* TES iv. That seems like a very weird omission, and suggests that it was an embellishment after the fact, or only applied to select individuals and was small scale enough to have gone unnoticed.
The entire known Argonian narrative surrounding the Oblivion crisis should be treated with suspicion; Everything from the supposedly successful invasion of Oblivion to the hist calling everyone home etc finds its origins as a sort of national myth put out by the An-Xileel, who were basically the Argonian Thalmor (They went so far as to desire to purge and exterminate all those 'assimilated' argonians, that is to say argonians with foreign customs, such as those born in other provinces). In that respect its not dissimilar to the claims put out by the Thalmor.
Also, other people did foresee the oblivion crisis, we get multiple prophecies about it in MW, and a retroactive one from Skyrim in the form of Alduins wall and the poems.
As a staunch Telvanni sympathiser, I wholeheartedly support your notion
It's actually explained that argonians born outside of blackmarsh have no connection to the hist and therefore are not called by the hist
I subbed in hopes that you'll make more Elder Scrolls content, as this is an AWESOME video!
There is still more to Elder Scrolls lore like Warlord Gathrik being Konahrik, Solstheim Draugrs, or Arniel Gane quest.
Oh ya you could make 100 hours of content on just the lore alone, may make a follow up video eventually gonna to do other games too, thanks for supporting the channel by the way!
Yes but they weren't on the internet list.
The quality of this video shows throughout. Thank you for this extremely well written Elder Scrolls doc.
Really appreciate that Phoenix! Thanks for supporting the channel
I personally feel like the dwemer when awakening the heart ended up making a pact with lorkhan taking them out to ending up making their own realm where the silently wait and prepare for a big final battle with the deadra and gods
Edit: thanks for the likes nice to know some people like the theory
You need more subs man. Opening shots +editing +voicing is solid. Ima send this to a few friends. Big ups
Thanks so much for the kind words appreciate it, hopefully you enjoy the fallout video dropping tomorrow too has a cool intro
Saw the length of this video and immediately liked.
Heard the quality of your audio and immediately subbed. Good show sir!
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This video definitely took so much work. Thank you for the effort and this will probably be a repeated watch for me :)
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The deep ones and the daedric prince Dagon are references to HP Lovecraft. Its a good bet that the town is sacrificing to Dagon, as this would fit with the rest of reference. Also the voices were not the only thing coming from the deep caves, there was definitely a wind in that clip you showed. That is straight out of Lovecraft!
Oh damn great catch on the clip point out, and ya was great inspiration for the quest, thanks so much for watching!
I believe elder scrolls online implies it are daedra of Molag Bal
This is really awesome! Love you approach and the details you brought up (many I hadn't heard of before). However some of the slaughtered names (Adamus Phillada, Hieronymus Lex, etc) throws me off a bit haha
Oh ya I butchered some LOL, working on it for the next one appreciate them feedback helps me improve, and thanks for supporting what I do!
Awesome video. Absolutely loved it. The lore is so rich and vast, it's insane.
Thanks so much!
Nice. Definitely some details I weren't aware of especially on some of those specific quests. The one about the crab/lobster race at the beginning though has some theory behind that I believe I heard from fudgemuppet but it's been awhile. Anyway, I believe they did rule over all of Nirn in a previous Calpa. I'm sure some of you have heard that term. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe I heard that Molag Bal was actually the reason behind them ruling all of Nirn as he was their leader of a sort before he was supposedly defeated by Mehrunes Dagon which started the next Calpa with Bal being sent back to Oblivion. Dagon was I believe at the time seen as someone that did good but then proceeded to turn on the other gods as well. A lot of things I left out on Dagons part but it's the gist of what I remember.
Oh, it's also believed that the crab race and Hist are both from the previous Calpa so who's to say that certain elves aren't from the previous as well. Elves like to blame man for a lot of stuff so maybe the Altmer know what exactly those changes were when man was born cause they too may have been from the previous Calpa. I believe they said they were immortal but when man was created they lost their immortality. Wouldn't surprise me if crabs lost their intelligence due to the change why couldn't elves lose their ageless lifespan and who knows what the Hist could've lost
Ya a lot of people have mentioned this super interesting theories I’ll have to look more into, thanks for supporting the channel by the way!
I maintain that Yokuda never sank. It's still there and it's still owned by the Sinestral. The redguard came to Tamriel because they were losing their war against the Sinestral and that's why they hate all elves, because they are holding a grudge for getting kicked out of the island.
If Sinestral had the power to sink the islands, than logically they also had the power to move them away from sight.
This is the same theory I have with what happened in the Night of Tears. Ain't no way the Atmoran settlers were "peaceful" in the colonization of snow elf territory. I postulate they waged war on them, failed miserably, & road their coat tails back to Atmora with a huge elven grudge. The fact that only Ysgramor & his 2 sons were the ONLY survivors is highly suspect.
@@iScAre1 If they already lost to them, then how do you figure an even smaller force of Atmorans proceeded to drive those same Snow Elves to near extinction?
@@Evarakeus I suppose the colonization group was made up mostly of non warrior colonists. The 500 the Ysgramor brought over were the mightiest warriors of atmora or something like that.
@@Evarakeus I've read a theory somewhere that, along with the warriors, Ysgramor brought dragons with him on his way back
tbh, that's the only way I see a force of 500 nords winning against elves (who are usually masters of magic). For example, much smaller and divided dwemer and dunmer were able to repel the nordic empire, as well as talos' imperial forces (same with altmer actually), so I would guess they needed dragons to win
Your theory doesn't make sense because it doesn't explain the shift in behaviour. They had to be at peace at one point, otherwise a war couldn't break out when the Altmer were already established on the continent, they would've killed off when they were mere fishing villages.
There had to have been a period of peace long enough for the Altmer to create a city, and some change that sparked the conflict.@@iScAre1
I like to think the Hist can recall the history of tamriel, but the only detail they bothered to remember was the weather.
“So what really happened in the first age oh great old one??”
“Started off pretty warm. Got colder.”
Hear me out, Kagrenac didnt cause the disappearance of the Dwemer. Everything that talks about the event is from second hand account, since no one saw Kagrenac do anything. It was The Tribunal, Dagoth and Nerevar finding the tools next to the heart that led to that account.
What if the Dwemer who had the Dragon Elder Scroll in Skyrim not be the ones to do it?
According to the lore in skyrim, the Dwemer there were rivals to the Morrowind Dwemer. Learning that Kagrenac was planning to use the Numidium to make the Dwemer gods, they feared that, as rivals, they wouldnt be part of that. So instead of waiting for their rivals to achieve an insurmountable advantage, they used the Elder Scroll to fling the entire race through time. They didnt have enough time to be precise, and only hit their rival cousins, but decided that reseting the field was at least bringing both parties back to parity.
A big detail that sticks with me though, would be the thought that Kagrenac, who designed the entire system that the numidium was, somehow screwed up, and then a handful of Chimer walk in, figure it out, and use it properly to become the Tribunal.
What? The architect fails, but 6 essential idiots walk in and make it work
The Dwemer might just pop back into existance someday with this theory :)
I like this theory and it's a possible retcon if they wanted to bring the dwemer back however you are forgetting one thing. The eyewitness account of the last surviving dwemer in Morrowind.
I mean the theory kinda works. Only issue I see is that the timing is WAAAY to precise. They would have had to use the scroll at the exact time Kagrenac was attempting to use the Heart, without knowing anything about what is happening at Red Mountain. Too coincidental to be plausible, unless a Daedra (*cough* Azura *cough*) fed intel
Possibly, but it seems to be too much of a coincidence for the Skyrim Dwemer to use the Dragon Elder Scroll at the exact same time as the Morrowind Dwemer using the Heart of Lorkhan. There is a quest in Skyrim, hidden in plain site, which kinda backs up the Heart of Lorkhan theory though. In the quest, you retrieve the dagger Keening, one of the tools, for some guy at the College of Winterhold. He uses Keening on a soul gem, and then disappears like he was never there, leaving only Keening behind. Very similar to the idea of the Dwemer disappearing and leaving the tools behind when Kagrenac used them on the Heart. Seems too coincidental to not mean anything.
Underrated channel. You deserve way more subs!! Love these icebergs
The fate of the snow elves is really sad not gonna lie. If I had known that those guys were formerly snow elves, I would have tried to avoid them so I wouldn’t have to kill them.
The reaper sounds terrifying. Imagine being there all dark and not much to see but his glowing eyes but right before he attacks boom, he summons a Raid Shadow Legends Ad back to back.
Damn bro, that was so entertaining. I've watched a lot of fudgemuppet over the years and didn't come across most of the theories in this. Great job
Thanks so much for the support!
Man it's cool to be so early to a TH-cam channel like this. I feel like one day you'll have a HUGE subscriber count. Shocked you don't have one already with this content you've put out!
Really appreciate the kind words! Ya it’s been cool to see the crazy support after years of work and no results
Great video to grow the channel. I commend you for the hard work!
Really appreciate that! Thanks for taking the time to support what I do
Man this channel pumps out some pretty good video with high quality production and yet still so little view and subs?
I love your vids man, I'm gonna sub
Really appreciate that man! Ya it’s been a struggle for years lol but recently we have been doing well
How have I not seen you here before 🤔 ?? Mistake resolved. Great video and well narrated, very engaging. Subbed!
Really appreciate the support Channen! And ya been working hard for a while the channel just recently started doing really well though so cool to see!
I just finished this video and you gained a new subscriber. Very well done
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Hey there! I'm a huge Elder Scrolls fan so it was amazing to see a video that you clearly put so much research, time, and dedication to. The video was fantastic and the production quality is great! Earned a sub from me and I'll be sharing and following your content!
Thank you so much for the kind words and support means a lot! ❤️
For the Rorikstead one you forgot to mention the one woman who is alive is infertile (unable to have children of her own)
Ya great point I actually almost included that but didn’t want the section to be too long probably should have, thanks a lot for watching by the way!
@@FranklyGaming thanks for posting quality content, never made anything myself but planning alone looks like it took days
Nice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Or the shrine of Akatosh with a dragon scale that respawns and is present from the game start.
Subbed and turned on notifications. Great content man. I look forward to more elder scrolls lore in the future
Thanks so much for supporting the channel! Making a fallout one next but will have more lore for everything for sure
There's a whole sacrificial chamber in rorikstead too, played for years without ever finding it. Great video as always
This popped up in my recomendations about an hour ago. Clicked it and have not been dissapointed. As an elder scrolls fan i have learned more theories then i knew about its why i love iceberg vids like this. Keep up the great job the quality is spectacular and your deliverance is engaging.
Really appreciate that thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for all the love and support on the recent videos guys! What iceberg do you want to see next? I was thinking either Elden Ring, Fallout, Prey, or Other.
Fallout would be a great one. There is so much lore in that franchise spans from the original Fallout to the recent Fallout 76, and many dropped concepts and even movie script in-between
@@SaintKuro ya honestly probably the one I will do next I’ll put up a poll though to see what everyone thinks, thanks for watching!
Fallout 🔥🔥🔥
Probably should have pinned this.
@@Tattle-by-Tale I put up a poll so figured that will be even better
Great content, I absolutely love and cannot get enough elder 📜 lore. Masterfully done, you have my sub for sure, I can't wait to see how far your channel goes... will be watching. Also, thank you.
Thank you so much the support means a lot! Working non stop on another one for fallout should be out soon!
Hey lad, just discovered you.
I plan on staying and watching a few :D
Keep up the great work, wholeheartedly enjoyed it
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@@FranklyGaming Quality needs encouragement!
Absolutely love this deep dive! You deserve way more subs, keep up the great work!
Thanks so much for the support! Really appreciate it
With regards to Argonian breasts, my primary theory is that they are calcium stores, which are present on many real reptile species (predominantlyin Geckos), though in the real world they're stored on the animals neck. Perhaps storing this material on the chest became an evolutionary adaptation to increase the mobility of the race.
The positioning makes no sense to store things so high on the body and in two places.
Evolutions makes animals store things close to the centre of the body mass.
That's why human females start being fat on the ass, and males on the stomach, makes it easier to moove while hunting as males (or sit on the ass as females)
If they were created with breasts, it's probably because boobs are cool and other species like them.
I think the more likely scenario is someone at bethesda said “titty lizard” so they put the titties on the lizard
Bethesda probably writing this down, argonian females having breasts is the same reason khajit females don’t have 8 breasts, it’s easier to model the armor if everyone has the same frame lol
My take, whether your theory is applicable or not, is the Hist "sculpted" them to at least be somewhat more humanoid or manmer-ish. Thus having obvious things for females such as "breasts" even if they wouldn't work like Man or Mer, would look closer to them than entirely alien.
niceeee bro i was hoping someone would do an iceberg video on tes lore finally
Thanks for watching!
Absolutely love the video really appreciate the Deep dive into the lore shedding light on some of the Lesser known topics not very many people know about
I can imagine zaric zhakaron
Might have a thing or two to say hearing all of this lore is seriously making me want to watch some of his content
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@@FranklyGaming this video will get millions of views pal look forward to the future of your channel looks very bright
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Cool video! What software did you use to edit and make this vid? I’ve been looking to do an iceberg myself on another topic
I use premiere pro! Thanks for supporting by the way
This was really good, hope your channel goes well
Thanks so much ❤️
Epic video, i hope you get the recognition you deserve
Really excellent visuals in this video on top of the info.
Thanks for the kind words!
I just realized. Out of all of the skeletons one comes across in elder scrolls games never once an Argonian skeleton.
Oh damn interesting I wonder if there are some examples
If not that would be an interesting video
Yes definitely do a video, also I can't believe I could be the first to realize there are no Argonian skeletal remains.
@@johncopenhaver4311 the legend of John Copenhaver haha
@@FranklyGaming Im already infamous where I'm from I don't need anymore "legends" also no Khajit skelebros either.
Good video, you may want to brush up on the names that have clear pronunciation though. Vermina was the one that stuck out the worst. It actually took me a moment to realize who you were talking about.
Ya that’s one thing I’ll try and focus on in future videos so thanks for the feedback and thanks for supporting the channel!
Very very nice video, subscription is here ;D
What is the name of the track that was used in Introduction or is it self-made if so, super good ;D
You got a new sub! Great content
Thanks so much for the kind words and support!
That was a very nice video. I've played TES for about 15 years now and there is never a lack of mysteries, random scraps of history that are so easy to disregard while following the main quests. I didn't expect to end up on quality content at 2 AM. Thanks for making this!
Anytime! Thanks for taking the time to support me as well!
As an Elder Scrolls Nerd you have made my day with this. Thank you for all the work you put into this!
anytime! Thank you for supporting what I do
Dude this video was amazing. Looking forward to more from you. Definitely deserve more subs channel is criminally unknown. Earned a new sub from me and will be sharing with friends
Thanks so much I really appreciate that! Working on a fallout iceberg for the next video
Thank you for this i had some missing information
Also you remind me why i love these games and this universe
Honestly I've always played as an Argonian because being able to breathe underwater is just so OP!
Love that they add cool traits like that, thanks for supporting my channel!
It’s not you’re barely ever in water
@@Jnigo exactly, water breathing is best kept on a piece of gear for if you ever seem to need it.
@@Jnigo Yeah. It's honestly the most useless trait after the orc one.
@@MishaFlowerhistskin is pretty useful. Especially on legendary
The Caribs (where we get the word Cannibal and Caribbean from) had a similar tradition where ANYTHING that was killed had to be eaten, which includes Humans killed in war.
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Interesting haven’t heard of this cool backstory, thanks for supporting the channel!
Just wanted to point out that you left some audio error in the video at 32:10. You should be able to splice it out with the TH-cam editor though.
I myself have many errors and mispeaking in my videos and I've been able to catch a few and clip them out.
Great video though, great effort and quite interesting theories/trivia so far!
Ya I actually noticed that a little bit ago after upload I went through the whole thing a few times in premiere pro but missed it somehow lol, thanks for pointing it out and appreciate the support on my channel!
@@FranklyGaming I have one on my Oola Star Wars story and I was listening to it a year later and found it and then I tried to find the error again and idk where it is now hahaha They always manage to slip by
Hey man, good video! I can tell it took quite a bit of time to make but I got some questions.
What's the reference that you used for the general info on Lefthanded Elves, like their affinity for that magic, their daedric worship, their society, etc. Also, what's the reference for the bit about Tang Mo living in floating rock cities.
I'm curious because I've never heard any of that, nor is that documented on UESP.
Probably ESO, which is debatably non-canon. Kirkbride disavows it, Howard said it isn't, but Bethesda proper and Zenimax insist it is.
Interesting video and your hard work is appreciated. As an old school gamer i remember myself taking the time on reading most of the books in-game (except Skyrim, have not bothered playing that one after seing the intro) and was well puzzled at most of times. One of the greatest game universes i have ever experienced and your effort is truly worth my appreciation even with its few flaws...buuuuuut f.....ing great work mate! I would love to see more content on this...part2 maybe?
Thanks so much for the kind words Christos! And ya would love to do more parts elder scrolls has so much cool lore I didn’t even speak to, have some other games to do first though (fallout next)
@@FranklyGaming you do you,wich is great!
Imagine not playing Skyrim.
Skyrim is not like the ones before... but if you like TES at all, it is worth it! Do yourself a favor!!
I don't fall asleep to videos much ever, these days, but this was perfect timing. Lore on a series I've only heard of, just before I go to bed on a whim, just as I searched "iceberg"! I'm sold! Thanks for compiling all of this goofy and creative fantasy writing.
Anytime, thanks for watching and supporting the channel swafty!
Such amazing content. I fall asleep to this and it drifts me into the great world of elder scrolls. To a simpler time. Like when I was a young boy, 15 years of age. Oblivion was just released, putting that disc into my Xbox and having no idea the vast world I’m about to enter and the life long interest it will bring. I have bad insomnia and videos like this are what do the trick. Thank you again. Here I go, to fall asleep somewhere in the elder scrolls universe. Somewhere in Tamriel. I wonder… will I ever dream of it as well
Hey! Great video! What music did you use for this? The ambience was so calming and I don't think it's from the game.
Thanks so much AJ! I used “relaxing elder scrolls music” on TH-cam with the morrowind thumbnail
@@FranklyGaming Holy smokes! Thanks for the quick reply!! I've heard that ambience on some other Elder Scrolls videos before, should've known it was Morrowind. Thanks again!
@@ajsouza3720 anytime! Thank you so much for supporting my channel!
So wood elves are short and demented
NGL that just kind of sounds like short people when they get angry
You dog lol, thanks for watching!
Short people be trippin
I actually started theorizing about the Argonian origins during this video. I had the thought that rather than being born of the Hist or just reshaped from existing life, what if the Argonians stem from a threoretical fourth group of wandering Ehlnofey that encountered the Hist before they encountered the elves. That would make the Argonians the only race that is both Anuic and Padomaic (I think, I could be wrong about that), and it would make it so the two main beast races both stem from the Ehnofey, albeit different groups which I like
That’s pretty cool honestly
There are quite a few points here that aren't quite on the mark. But it's a fairly good summarizing of some of the beauty of Elder Scrolls lore. There is some context left out, and some of it is not so definite as how you described it. Many things in Elder Scrolls are up for interpretation, sometimes just so Bethesda can add to it later as they see fit. But not a bad video. I liked that you referenced Camelworks though, very nice. A couple of other good sources are Fudgemuppet and TheEpicNate. There are others, but these pop up in my memory.
Great vid! Just cause it's an Iceberg I'd add.
The Daedra aren't really... evil, for the purposes of the story, sure they are often antagonists, but within the cosmology sort of think of them as, Catalysts of Change, VS the Aedra that are representations of order.
Molar bal is very much pure evil
TES has the craziest lore in all of fantasy fiction
It really does have some amazing lore, thanks for watching!
That's what happens when you let a cat fetishist and an elf enthusiast hopped up on meth write your lore.
looks like I won't be talking to my coworkers for the next hour. LFG
Lol thanks for the support as always ❤️
go to work 😂
@@MacGatesStudio Joseph you dog 😂
@@MacGatesStudio shoutout 2 manual labor
I feel like you should have way more subcribers!! I'll be with you all the way! ❤
Thanks so much!
Nice video. Keep the good work 👍🏼
Thanks so much for the support!
Top tier content🔥 should definitely look into doing a Destiny iceberg soon! Cause the lore runs so deep in the Destiny franchise bungie did a phenomenal job universe building
Oh that’s a great idea another one I’ll add to my list I’ll put out a poll for you guys soon to see what we want next, thanks for supporting my channel!
I've been waiting since the start of the iceberg trend for someone to have the balls to tackle this schizophrenic masterpiece.
Thanks for watching!
You've earned a sub, my good man.
Thanks so much for the kind words and supporting my channel!
Fantastic content. I hope you grow this channel bro C:
Thanks so much means a lot❤️
@@FranklyGaming ur very welcome 😁
The Falmer "attack" is also said that it was the Atmorans who provoked the attack, because the Eye of Magnus is still there.
Holy crap, this guy going somewhere
I wonder how long before them collabs start 👌
Really appreciate the support!
Love your name dude
52:29 never noticed that before but this just sent me chills down my spine
This is edited and presented so much better then the average read off list drone of iceberg videos
Really appreciate it, thanks for the support!
@@FranklyGaming you're welcome man
For the last one, as the quest is based around the H.P. Lovecraft story, The Shadow Over Innsmouth, it makes it probable that the Deep Ones in Oblivion are Sload since the homonym creatures in the original story were fish men.
Great work!! I'm definitely subscribing, this video has such a great quality!!! are you continuing the series? or is this the last time you delve into TES??
Thanks so much for the kind words! And I will be doing more in elder scrolls for sure in the future so much lore, doing other games too next iceberg is gonna be fallout
@@FranklyGaming nice!! I'm a huge TES fan ao I'll be looking forward to it!! Keep up the good work, and I hope your channel grows a lot!
I think you're right, Raistlin Bright! Seems the Deep Ones are Sloads, worshipping a Daedra or Daedras.
I like the Deep ones quest. It's basically Eldritch mythology put into Elder Scrolls.
I must have beaten this game 100 times, 100% achievements on xbox without even intending to. Never head of this till just now, oblivion is a masterpiece
@@abandonall8327 yeah, it is a masterpiece.
True, that quest is basically just a land version of The shadow over Innsmouth.
Aaaand here's a sub! Love the video
Thanks so much for supporting my channel!
Youre gonna get big with this quality of content.
If anyone was wondering the dreugh ruled nirn in a previous kelpa vivec remembers them from. That kelpa and I guess wrote about them
Ya I saw some other comments about this too thanks for pointing it out! Appreciate the support on the channel!
@@FranklyGaming u are very welcome always love seeing new channels pop up talking about the elder scrolls
I've been saying for a while now that the Hist are up to some spooky shit, and that Argonians are probably just sleeper agents/drones for this hivemind of trees. A lot of other Argonian players ignore this tho, because Argonians have been an underdog race in the lore with all the enslavement and abuse they suffer. It's easy for people to overlook that Argonians aren't squeaky clean either
Ya super very interesting lore behind the whole thing I imagine we won’t have a mainline game there though for some time if ever, thanks for supporting my channel!
Not two weeks ago I saw that image and was thinking "damn I wish someone bothered to dissect it". Thanks for that!
Thanks for watching viktor!
Love these Iceberg videos!
Thanks so much for the support! Definitely more coming working on a short video first
The village that's sacrificing people sounds like a reference to the Shadow over Innsmouth, so it feels safe to say that they're worshipping Dagon
Yep that’s actually what the quest was based on! And thanks for supporting the channel by the way!
@@FranklyGaming Gotchu, fam ✊
So I think there's an important part of the text you ignored involving the Falmer, it states something about their souls being seperated from them and that they'd live amongst the music for eternity. I believe the Falmer are soulless husks and their ancestors souls are actually trapped within the automatons, as it's proven that they cannot function without access to soul gems and thus cannot function without souls
This is some great insight thanks for that, and thanks for taking the time to support my channel too
But Falmer fill empty gems when you end them, don't they?
@@kisa4748 Yeah, and automatons don't drop black soul gems, the only ones capable of holding men/mer souls.
@@peterschultz573 Debunks the theory then.
@@MishaFlower I mean, we still don't know why falmers fill empty regular soul gems instead of black soul gems, maybe the dwemer found a way to slice their souls or modify them somehow? Anyway, it's not a full debunk.
I always took “blinding the snow elves” that the poison blinded them by taking their magic away and when the Dwemer disappeared then the snow elves were stuck under the ground and then de-evolved into the falmer.
I didn't even realize that you were a much smaller channel because I was so focused on the vid. Amazing quality work mate, this must've hell to capture and put together, one criticism though - your pronunciations are really all over the place. Calling vaermina as vaemira took me out of it for a bit lmao