The Strange and Disturbing "Cyberpunk 2077 Iceberg" Conspiracies Explained
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:43 Tier 1 - The Sun
6:55 Tier 2 - The Star
15:53 Tier 3 - The Reaper
28:40 Tier 4 - The Devil
41:00 The Biggest Conspiracy - เกม
Also, I always assumed the "interdimensional aliens mind controlling us" is just referring to us as the player.
Never thought of it that way lol
I like the fact he also talked about aliens when you go retrieve a painting that got launched from the moon in a capsul
Pretty much. In their world we’re from the Prime/Alpha/Omega Universe. It’s Meta
Smooth brain reaching
@@alexradice8163 And we all appreciate your courage to call yourself out for it.
Fun fact, if you listen to the radio you find out the trauma team is pretty disturbing. If you can't pay for them and still don't after a while, they will come and take you away (they make point to say nobody will care cause it's the trauma team and they'll think you're injured). They will then take away all of your expensive cybernetics even your second heart or new kiroshi eyes and replace them with nearly defect or absolute gonk cyberware from recently deceased gang goons such as sixth streeters.
American healthcare 50 years later :
@@orbit1894 but realistically next year
@@swagheelfeel like you’re mixing this up with China or Brazil or something
Certain things just shouldn't be privatized. Like healthcare, education, and basic housing.
@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolfonly in the US is Healthcare so expensive. You'll wish you were dead instead
I’m usually not one to put my tinfoil hat on, but when you touched on the segment about the biotechnica flats and possible human cloning as a food source, I remember stumbling upon what looked like a hit and run involving a truck out on a dirt road that runs through the flats. The scene depicts a truck that looks like it was run off the road and into a wall. Around the truck are a group of bodies and the bodies appear to be all be women. I also discovered a shard at the scene that speaks to how these woman were being smuggled out of a biotechnica facility with the help of Dakota (a fixer in the badlands). Initially I just thought this was a nod to the story of Mad Max Fury Road, but based on what you’ve uncovered in the lore around biotechnica, I think there’s definitely something a little more sinister going on there.
Ya I really hope it’s something they dive into in phantom liberty or at least allude to would be cool
if there is human cloning why dont they just use that for V in the devil ending though, or even saburo
arasaka already has some part in basically any corporation as far as i know, since even though they seem to have a rivalry with militech they also seem to work together alot
That was actually a mad Max reference Easter egg
@@blehh_mae that could be how V gets a “cure” in the DLC. It could be a quest during the main story that leads to biotechnica getting V’s DNA somehow to clone their body in the sequel (Cyberpunk Orion)
It’s also a life is strange Easter egg, two of the bodies are the main characters
I think Mr Blue Eyes (and the other "vampires") is an AI.
When characters send/receive data, their eyes glow blue. What if Mr Blue Eyes's eyes are blue because he is sending and receiving a constant stream of data (the AI connecting to that body via the data stream). It would make the AI literally immortal, with it being able to connect to several bodies at the same time.
u spoiled matpat video
The illusive man is definitely illusive. Maybe he needs to build a team for a suicide mission one day.
Kinda seems suspicious though, might betray us later 😂
Agreed. I also think its AI that was controlling the mayors mind. Cyberpunk constantly eludes at how great a threat the AI behind the black wall is.
Mister Blue Eyes seems to me like the cyberpunk equivalent of the Strange Man from Red Dead Redemption
You also see the cat during “Down on the street”. Just as you start talking with Takemura’s associate , the cat pops up about 100 feet away staring at you and walking around the top of a broken down car. He disappears once the associate leaves.
Oh dang didn’t know about this one ya so many interesting things cdpr sprinkled throughout, thanks for watching and supporting the channel btw!
You can also see him in the pipes in The area near the Ghost in the Shell Cyberpsycho. There’s a car accident, you find the body and the lore shard underwater, but the cat is on shore next to the car. Looking at the water.
It’s right before one of the hidden robots. You can activate him with lvl11(I think, don’t quote me)Tech and he dances.
Another little detail about Nibbles, if you got the Sun ending and when you go to Afterlife to take the job from Mr Blue Eyes, you can see Nibbles hanging out on the bar (of course if you decided to get it as a pet)
Nibbles is nowhere to be seen in the other endings
@@ZrodyApo That makes me think that the space ending is the true ending, which confirms the Sentient Alien theories. Which I would love for it to be true, it would be like my love of Aliens and Bloodborne coming together lol
1) the cat is seen by other people(takamura in particular)
2) rogue definitely did betray johnny
3) johnny got a bone marrow transplant
3)bartmoss is certainly in the net
4)Ai is behind the politician quest. They imply AI want to control
Panam is quite literally my favorite character in this game
Also, doesn’t the fixer *tell* V that Cyberpsychosis is a PTSD/mental illness-related thing?
@@poppycola1135 I'm pretty sure the Edgerunners anime just completely disproved that theory of cyberpsychosis being mind control with what happened to certain characters in the show.
Misty even tells you the cat's name if you interact with it during the final quest.
@@poppycola1135 no, there's a few cyberpsycho events with messages that imply it's one of the corps fucking with people
@@theillumineddy2942 hmm, I thought the opposite, thinking back on episode 5, and spiked bds. The visions from the original bd pops up every time David loses it.
The vampires thing is based on a boostergang from the 2020 worldbook that would install cybernetic vials, fangs, and digestive tracts that they would use to store poison in their body. They called themselves Slaughterhouse and another smalltime vampire gang was The Philharmonic Vampires
Don't forget the actual feral vampires in the sewers of 2022. They were like mutated humans or some shit.
@@isaacmarcucci3777 well, now with the next gen update for the Witcher 3, it is being pointed out that vampires from the world of the Witcher might have come to Cyberpunk's world and it all ties in with the magenta conspiracy.
@@Archaoen0 enlighten me more
@@isaacmarcucci3777 enlighten me more
@@Stone-faced there are vampires in the sewers of cyberpunk. Some of them are from a faulty implant that makes you thirst for blood because the cybernetic draws the iron in your skin to it's surface. They even get implanted teeth and have their own faction. Some of them are straight up ancient beings that use magic and shit lol.
There’s a conspiracy that Saburo let his son Yorinobu let his son kill him. He gets a more youthful body, can test out his new completed soulkiller tech, and get rid of a rebellious son. That’s also why he probably valued family over everything - he could use his family (like Yorinobu) to prolong his life with soulkiller.
It's not a conspiracy when there's an entire ending for it
@@grilledleeks6514lol
Gotta love how he fails in almost every ending except for like...one
@@knightpal1545is it the suicide ending?
@@Cracktanemainnah the ending where you leave the city with Panam, news states Yorinobu became president of the company
I like to believe that Adam Smasher didn’t say anything because he was bored with acting as a babysitter and knew that whatever V and Jackie were there to do it would lead to Arasaka letting him off the leash to hunt them down.
After all, Smasher is pretty much a somewhat “stable” Cyberpsycho who only ever did jobs where the likelihood of combat and civilian casualties were high and being a bodyguard would pretty much be torture for him.
Smasher is supposed to have thermal vision since his original full body conversion in the 2010s so he definitely saw Jackie and V huddled together inside the screen, probably also scanned they were a couple of low level mercs with no serious chrome or firepower to speak of so basically not a threat at all, so he let them be just to see what would happen lol
Could be he decided if Nobu killed his dad then he ha the perfect scape goats. It didn't take long to get V's name in the streets as to them being the killer
it could just be that he let them, so he could have another turn at johnny
At this point, I'm willing to accept any reason just to understand why Adam Smasher has like no presense in his own boss fight. It was really disappointing
@@Freelancer837 Agreed. After watching Edgerunners, Adam Smasher in the game is pretty lame. He's so much cooler in the anime.
The story gets so much better with the small details that most people don't notice. A lot of the side missions imply much much bigger things than V's story unfolding
Game was still bunk for year 1. Those details hardly hit with all the other shortfalls. Like the police or details like max tac lol
The thing is that this is not an RPG, you’re forced into Johnny’s resurrection, you’re forced into another man’s story and obtuse view of the world. The one ending where you act like any normal human being would and take out the thing that’s killing you is the “Devil” ending. They strong arm you the whole way. Personally I believe they fumbled the story by having Jackie die basically right away and having Johnny in it as well. I would’ve loved to play alongside Jackie and even if near the end he died and I got the chip, then it would make more sense for me to then hurry up and either get this out, or maybe one of the other possibilities. I have yet to see any reason why I should care for Johnny and zero reason of why I would help him when I know the chip is the thing killing me🤷♂️
Alot of the side missions are better than alot of other games main missions.
@@CoercedJab Whooooo fucking cares dude give it a rest, I played 2077 for over 100 hours on PC at launch, and yeah it was buggy, but my experience (anecdotal) was fine and enjoyable. Yeah, other people had problems, the major ones got fixed pretty quickly.
The only people who really suffered were those that paid for last gen copies, which was a really bad move for both CDPR to even release on last gen, and customers for buying it.
Like god damn, the game is pretty good now, so play it or dont, but stop taking every chance you can to go "Yeah but the game was bad for a year" holy fuck
@@eddyram4932 there is a Role that you Play in a Game. and if you think the devil ending was the normal obvious choice, then you did not get the meaning of this story even a little bit.
Rogue being a secret turncoat for arasaka fits so perfect. You can tell that she didnt like alt and felt jealous that johnny would go through so much to try to save alt, a feeling Rogue deeply desired.
Rogue was a side chick for johnny after alt "died" he never truly loved her. Honestly I believe the worst way to end the game is to give johnny the body. Leave him with Alt, give V a chance, and let rogue forget him. The perfect end.
Rogue literally admits working for Arasaka a few times, at least after she was done mourning Johnny. I don't know why it's shown as a "conspiracy", the game straight up says it happened.
(I remember it from the Rogue/Johnny ending, I do not remember what you have to say, but it is there)
Also from when they meet Grayson
Rogue sold to Arasaka after Johnny died. During the raid, when Johnny, Rogue and Swama walk by some oficces, she literally says: "I had here with Michiko Arasaka just last week". Also Bartmoss is the one in the fridge, Johnny knew him in person and recognized him.
Michiko's kind of a fringe case tho, a mole for the NUSA government planted straight into the board of directors gathering intel about what's really going on inside Arasaka...
IDK if she full on sold out- I mean, She Knew Arasaka was looking for V and Takimura both- but didn't sell either of them out, even though she had the opportunity and probably could have received a decent reward from Yorinobu.
Rather, I suspect she cut deals, did some shady shit jobs for them. At this point, I think she's independent- but she has a whole closet full of skeletons.
@@AsaelTheBeast remember that arasaka had 3 factions, rogue didnt deal with yorinobu, she dealt with michiko, whom belonged to another faction. Also, rogue didnt know that takemura was involved with V. IAt the beginning of the Rogue and Johnny ending, Johnny says "Rogue, show me your hand because I know you sold to the corps." And Rogue answers, "I know you have a name in your head: Adam Smasher. Yes, I did, but layer, after I stopped mourning..." or domething like that.
@@leiburjorge8443 Wether Takemura was related to V is irrelevant. He's accused of killing Saburo. Wakako says as much, actually, and for the current head of Arasaka (Yorinobu) he represents a problematic lose end.
Michiko is the head of the tiniest faction in the company- the liberal faction- which actually wants heavy reforms to both the company's internal and external policies (she may also be working with NUSA, but who knows). Like- as far as rebellious descendants go, the only one of suburos less like him is Yotinobu- who once swore to destroy the company.
Johnny recognized Bartmoss' appearance...doesn't mean they couldn't have done some kind of cosmetic surgery on someone to make him look like him.
One additional thing to note on room 301: the words ‘I am not me’ are also written on the wall behind the bed in the room that you find Evelyn in when you rescue her from the scavs who were using her to scroll XBDs. The implication, at least to me, is that Evelyn and possibly others who were in this room were forced to write the phrase ‘I am not me’ over and over as a sort of mental torture.
So the contents of that room may be less supernaturally sinister, and more mundanely so.
But Evelyn is a doll and dolls are often used as proxies like Hanako did with the one that visited V in the motel. It may be something related with that proxy functionality, and Evelyn or some other dolls are being used to scroll XBDs as proxies by a sick mf that is into that nasty content or they get programmed /controlled and then wiped to do some crazy shit. I kinda remember from that mission that dolls were valuable for those scavs, and also from the first gig with Jacky we know that they use apartments to perform their shady business. There is not to much content about this stuff.
In William Gibson's Neuromancer one of the main characters, Molly, who is basically a Solo, talks about essentially being a Doll and how memories and leaked through the implant.
Her BF was also named Johnny and he was killed by a cloned Corpo assassin.
“I am not me” is easily explained by Doll Chips, since they contain another persona that is given control of the body when it is active.
You also see those wallwritings in the mental asylum (in some holding cells and in the staircase going to the roof) in one gig. Those holding cells are empty, making me think if you follow the drawing trail to the roof, that's maybe a mental patient escapee trail to freedom.
It's also written in numerous places in the psych ward you rescue an NCPD officer from in a gig.
Nibbles, is just a cat. The cat next to Mistys clinic is called Mr. Brightman, it was found in the trash behind the clinic, presumably by Jackie and Misty. The cat you see during the mission when you stake out the Arasaka warehouse is first brought to our attention by Nakamura, while that cat could be Mr. Brightman, it's unlikely. So, there's three cats, all of the same breed, and others most definitely see them.
Exactly. No idea where the guy(and the iceberg creator) got that nobody reacts to the cats when actually 2 different people react to them.
Yeah this is the biggest one for me, Goro literally refers to the cat directly and he hasn’t seen any cats in one of the scenes mentioned.
I’m on my first play through. I’m 80 hours in and I just don’t want it to end. I’ve loved it. I’m trying to explore everything I can it’s such a blast
That's great to hear. I've done hundreds of hours now, exploring all the life paths, male and female V storylines and trophy hunting. The game pretty much captivated me since I started playing it about a month and a half ago and still is keeping my interest as I try to get the last trophy I need and somehow beat the secret ending. Tried once and died right away, granted my character isn't max level yet. Anyways, enjoy the game. It's well worth investing a lot of time in.
@@K_LCollectibles_Gamesthe secret to ending was the first ending that I ever did, get max level and use a sword and pistol/shotgun build you’ll get it bro!
tbh, i really like the overarching concept, but the game is very undercooked, a lot of things just feel off, especially driving, stealth and gun play.
@@teo2157 true, but the fact that this game has still been as good as it is, even though the game should've probably been delayed for at least another year, implies that a fully fleshed out sequel would have insane potential
@@ki0If they had delayed it, and somehow kept the hype up, and it released in its current state? It would have been massive.
Food for thought:
Based on the lore, Spider Murphy was actually the one who slotted Johnny with Soul Killer, Johnny got blown in half by Smasher during a distraction sortie while Morgan Blackhand planted the bombs. Remember one of the things you can talk to Johnny about when he asks what the worst thing about Mikoshi is and you say "they can change who you are"? That's the gist of it, the engram isn't Robert John Linder, it's some shred of his original soul-killed program with a bunch of junk added, probably by Arasaka and specifically Yorinobu.
Why would Yorinobu put that engram on the Relic anyway? To make sure that if his dad did get it back, he'd end up with Johnny Silverhand in his brain-case, with all the authority from the Saburo skin-suit to kill the company once and for all? If he was going to take it to netwatch, like the backstory hints, what would that do, let netwatch accidently breach the black-wall trying to reach the Alt Cunningham AI gestalt? Why did he bluster at the NUSA and Militech in his speeches following Saburo's death, to start the Fifth Corporate War that would likely be the last? It almost seems like Yorinobu wanted to tear the entire system down, to make it all go away so everyone had to start again from scratch. The Irony is, Yorinobu may have been more Johnny Silverhand than Johnny Silverhand actually was.
Very reasonable thought.
This is some good food you have cooked.
I think the reasoning behind that was hinted during the conversation with Hellman in the motel before Takamura arrives. When discussing the biochip, in particular the engram, Hellman says that it's not Silverhands personality that's unique but the biochip. He also goes on to say something to the effect of they chose an engram that would not be missed. Since the biochip was the prototype and not the same one that Saburo would have slotted in, I think they chose Johnny since he wasn't affiliated with the secure your soul program (Silverhands involvement with the first bombing is still considered a myth) and even if the engram transfer failed, it was just one more freed up space in Mikoshi. I doubt this would be a reason for having Johnny on the biochip but even if the prototype was a success, since Saburo personally oversaw the project, he could get the satisfaction of killing Johnny one more time.
Speaking of Spider Murphy: Who else noticed the Skye at the Clouds Dollhouse has Spider’s tag as a tattoo on her belly?
To quote Yorinobu himself
« What would I try ? I have tried everything, and nothing else remain. Just one bullet left, its not for you (speaking to V).
Look, what do you see ?
Kyoto, Dubai, Paris… these people had a chance today, but they lost it. To forget their fear. Fear. Ever since I can remember. The one thing I cannot deny him - he knew how to cause fear in people.
He once told me anything of value is only a flag in wind. And wind, is Fear. And then you know what he did? Blew in my face.
That was the one time he was wrong. And others ? It worked on them. They feared him. Even now. You saw! Idiots terrified of a dead pan talking from a box. Pathetic.
I would change that. If only you did not appear.
Power ? You… you think I wanted power ? Fifty years ago terrorists blew this building into smoke. And ? What it gives us ? Nothing ! But I learn lesson! If planting bombs not enough, what can you do ?
You become bomb. »
If there wasn’t the whole situation with the relic, Yorinobu, V and Johnny would have a lot of reason to be friends. The worst ending (The Devil) is the one ending where Yorinobu plan is stopped. In the others ending he end up killing the entire board and drive the company into the ground. Intel about how the relic was used to gather intel is leaked, and V is pretty much unscathed, they run the afterlife or drive away in the sunset with Panam, no real retaliation from Yorinobu for boasting through Arasaka HQ. Because Yorinobu is not V’s enemy, he’s his father enemy. A bomb whose sole purpose is destroying everything Saburo Arasaka worked so hard to accomplish.
9/10 antagonist, kinda wish we had more interaction with him during the story.
I'd just like to point out that there's literally a quickhack in the game that induces Cyberpsychosis in enemies. It's not too crazy an idea that there's something more to the phenomena than just "his body doesn't like that much chrome"
Cyberpsychosis is, in simplest terms is your whole natural system is an overload.
That overload would be like running too many devices on one circuit.
The difference here is the circuit is your ability to regulate your sense of self.
It’s not too hard to believe a program could essentially DDOS your sense of self.
I always thought this was canon
The quickhack's description says "...cyberpsychosis-like state..."
@@bitterleafcastle1552 ...and it's only temporary. But that is only its quickhack form, V is no great netrunner, but imagine what a hostile AI or a god-tier runner could do with a virus.
While yes that is true it just trips a mental break, If you watch edgerunners the BD guy scene hints you into how it can be achieved.
The entry about vampires is especially interesting considering there exists an official crossover module between Vampire the Masquerade and Cyberpunk 2020, providing rules combining both game’s systems as well as lore about how the various clans and factions of the former franchise have adapted to the dark future of the latter franchise. As unlikely as it is due to legal reasons, I like to think the underground vampire group would have been a reference to it.
I actually didn't know this but I do remember seeing something about a vampire like gang in cyberpunk that has like a specialized weapon consisting of like syringe claws that inject you with a substance that makes pain feel like pleasure and they use it to drink people's blood without a fight
Random thought about the theory on Bartmoss' body not showing anything when scanned: With the exception of certain scenarios, like the cyberpsycho sightings, most bodies you come across (not living NPCs that got killed, but bodies that seem to be purposefully placed) don't actually give you any readings when scanned. So I wonder if Bartmoss' body not giving off any data was purposeful or just the nature of how the game is built.
Great video!
I'm leaning more towards game design but that doesn't mean I believe Bartmoss is dead for good. iirc before the DataKrash even happened Bartmoss' physical body had already died but he just had such ridiculous hax that he was able to live on in the net without much issue. The real question is whether or not his R.A.B.I.D.S. destroyed his consciousness alongside the rest of the net or if he was able to survive the same way Alt did...
@@benadrylcumbersplatch6448 I am pretty certain in game it says that Bartmoss conciousness is still up in the net, dude is just locked up behind the Blackwall that's it
His SIN was erased by erased by spider monkey father....idk...maybe related
@@BRISSOE876 Thats 100% it. Bartmoss had his SIN erased so there is not data to pull on him, he legaly does not exist.
Plot twist: Cyberpunk was based on real life and whoever is behind the "backlash" found something in there they don't want you to know.
The real number one conspiracy haha, thanks for supporting me!
1000%
how to ruin a game:
...game was redone later on development the hype was so high the ties decided to release it unfinished against devs opinions...
@@sniperschiavo who hurt you?
That's how it went whatever you say
Looks like the whole game plays around swapping identities. When V and Johnny talk after interrogating Anders Hellman, Johnny says the worst thing is that they swap out your identity without you even noticing that. Same happens to Peralez when she is losing her identity and probably what happened to the guy in the blue room.
From what we see in edgerunners, it definitely seems like cyberpsycosis is definitely a psychological thing, and there are even mechanics for it in the TTRPG. From what we see it can definetly be that you can trick someone into an episode through things like spiked BD's but true cyberpsycosis does seem to be a psychotic break do to to many implants. It also seems like having a good support system and people you care about around you helps lessen cyberpsycosis.
I think it I can be both considering the the cyberphycosis quick hack
Mmmm more or less right. Cyberpsycosis isn’t actually a real thing. It’s stated that the corporations use cyberpsycosis as a scapegoat so they don’t have to focus on the real problems that take people’s humanity away. Cyberpsycosis really is just the mental breaking point for being in such a cynical dystopian
I'd say so too. In the game somewhere Regina and V discuss the relic. Apparently V can't go into a cyberpsycosis state because of relic. And as we know that alters the mind so that can be linked into it too
@@ryosuketakahashi4957there's also the rage mechanic (i think it's called that) where v goes full psycho.
My head cannon is that you go cyberpsycho, but the chip detects it and fixes it up after a bit, thus why it only lasts for a while
Another thing I have to add, the bit about the 4GB missing, they have indeed added several of those jobs (along with several new weapons and a couple vehicles) in update 1.62 that you are describing and the part about vehicular combat is confirmed as it's going to be added in with Phantom Liberty!
1.62 really was the second best time to start playing, 2.02 being the best.
I thought he meant four missing gigs=missions,not gigabytes.
I think the Alien theory has a simpler solution than literal aliens. A.I. from beyond the Black Wall.
Ya for sure that is what makes the most sense, but not as fun 😏, thanks for supporting the channel!
@@FranklyGaming bartmoss was claiming aliens before the black wall though it was his death that triggered the datakrash that led to the black wall
Yeah, I also do believe that and I think it's an equally chilling vision - maybe even more so, because it's sounds more probable. I was kinda surprised Delamain wasn't mentioned in the video. He might have originated from beyond the Blackwall
Night City was already visited by an alien - Ciri
@@FranklyGaming Is aliens actually more fun tho? There's no mentions of aliens anywhere in the game or the CBP universe, (just like IRL, wether you like it or not) so why throw it in from nowehere. A lot more interesting to tie it to something mysterious that exists, such as the black wall. Muuuuch more fun and in-character for the game.
For Johnny's blood type, if he's type AB RH+ that means he can basically use any type of blood in a transfusion. Type "O" (not zero lol) is the universal donor type, so it can be given to anyone in a transfusion. His dog tags may say that just because everything was a shitshow when he joined the corpo army and they just gave whatever they had that would work.
Those aren't Johnny's dog tags anyway. They belonged to a man who took a bullet for him during the Mexican conflict.
IDK if she full on sold out- I mean, She Knew Arasaka was looking for V and Takimura both- but didn't sell either of them out, even though she had the opportunity and probably could have received a decent reward from Yorinobu.
Rather, I suspect she cut deals, did some shady shit jobs for them. At this point, I think she's independent- but she has a whole closet full of skeletons.
Type O negative?
@@CodeguruX Black #1
@@ralcogaming7674 remember JS is an unreliable narrator and wrong about a lot of things that happened to the real Johnny. If you look closely it's Johnny's dog tags. Nothing of the other guy
The shot of Adam Smasher staring directly at V is fucking spine tingling
I fully believe Adam knew you where there. He basically looks right at you as he walks in and also even after all the games many updates including 2.0. It still shows him as red, which really feels like it was on purpose.
It would make sense if Adam could see you, he has a whole host of vision abilities. Only question is why he didn’t do anything.
I’m so glad to see someone enjoying this game as much as I do. While I understand many people were disappointed by its release, I’ve enjoyed it since the release. The amount of exploration the game allows you to do has always been a favorite aspect of mine. The fact it has an iceberg dedicated to it only backs me up. Great video man!
i only got the game a couple weeks ago, always wanted to play it but i simply couldnt run it, avoided watching anything about the story etc and have already poured 100 hours into it. absolutely loving everything about it. Update: watched edgerunners and played it through again and now have 350 hours :)
You are the reason why companies release games like this
I have owns the game on PS4 since day one.
The only problems I ever had was the same with Elder scrolls online, Warframe, and MechWarrior 5 and that's my PS4 slim over heats due to lack of cooling.
Once I put a fan on it all issues stopped.
I still enjoy the game to this day.
@@Zharrgrim
And it's people like you who make mountains out of ant hills and cause trouble for everyone else who likes the game.
Yes there are issues big ones but unlike people who give up on a company like CDPR I have given them a chance to fix things and they have been doing just that.
@@Zharrgrim I can’t tell if you’re being negative or not. If you’re not, thank you. If you are, cry about it.
I just did that Pedro quest, if you choose the good dialogue with V, you can hear V's voice the genuine care for Pedro. It is a nice touch quest.
The tiny mike mission is in the game now, too. Just did it yesterday!
thank you, finally someone’s talking about the zen master! I always thought it was a weird questline and wondered if the zen master is just a reflection of johnny
Thanks for watching!
Adam smasher was never a weak villain in the game. V was just so damn broken(godly). V literally gave the middle finger to “cyberpyschosis” all while having a chip eat away at his brain. Adam wasn’t weak. He just got beat out by power creep. V was to Adam smasher what Adam was to David.
I like to think that lore-wise V is the most powerful merc with all the implants in the world without cyberpsychosis because of the chip. Cyberpsychosis is a mental condition and in my headcanon Johny took a lot of the load of having so many implants, making V stronger than anyone in Cyberpunk universe without going psycho
At least that's how I cope with how much of a let down Smasher is as a boss
@@Sputnik1That's my personal theory too
@@Sputnik1that's the head canon of the creators too. It's not canon because they prefer to keep it open, but they had that in mind when they made the game.
@@Sputnik1 I like to think V never gets cyberpsychosis because the chip splits the effects between johhny and v, meaning he can have double the amount of cyberware an average person could
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It's pretty well spelled out that Johnny 's dog tags were literally from another soldier who died or was killed while Johnny himself deserted from the Mexican war.
The 2 blood types are 2 different men, and they didn't really care cause by the time he made it somewhere to wash the blood off his boots, there are dozens more soldiers to replace him.
Then why do the dog tags have Johnny's birth name on them?
@@theencoder6992 Possibly the same reason that Richard Whitman became Don Draper. It not like its a new trope.
@@theencoder6992 because he took the identity of the man who died saving him. As the other commenter said it's a trope just like Don Draper did in madmen.
@@CIANIBBA Or, if you prefer anime, same way Char Aznable got his name.
The Rouge / Militech thing is not to shocking. Since Militech was a backer for the tower raid. At least in the TTRPG that the game was based on. That is how they got the nuke. So she might not have sold Johnny out, she might have just found it safer to join up with militech after the hit until things cooled down.
the flashback to the raid on arasaka tower is played out how johnny's buggy memory remembers it. the TTRPG version of the raid is what really happened. mike pondsmith confirmed johnny's version of things was all in his head.
@@DavidReyes-mq6wp Yeah, Mike uses the unreliable narrator story telling device a lot, meaning most characters portrayal of certain events should usually be taken with a grain of salt. Especially in the case of a drugged up Rocker boy who got taken out with ease in the books by Adam Smasher, Johnny definitely isn’t the total badass he claims or likes to think he was. And was likely carried by those around him, not saying he wasn’t an influential figure who had some skill, but he was no Morgen Blackhand, that’s for damn sure.
Rogue did work with Adam Smasher sometime between the 2023 raid and 2077. It's noted in Adam's story that he teamed up with Rogue.
@@rileyboy10 reminds me of how johnny kept saying that arasaka took alt to spite johnny, not accepting that alt was just more influential and important of a figure than johnny
@@siddharthanand6882 Yeah that's exactly it, Johnny see's himself as the hero in his own story, not realising he's just a side character in everyone else's. It's honestly why I quite enjoy his dialogue, he's so flawed and messed up in a way most people are scared to write characters, CDPR did a great job with him.
It may have been pointed out since the video’s release, but there is a hidden data shard in Dream On that can be found on the drivers of the vehicle you’re chasing to the maelstrom den. You don’t normally see them because they activate a cloaking device. If you can climb to the roof you can also spot a cloaked AV. Kill them and it shows their orders, who are issued by Nightwatch. Ssri is a proxy front, it’s all nightwatch.
netwatch or nightcorp?
@@duncanrobertson8323 night corp.
Okay but like someone is LITERALLY MIND CONTROLLING politicians in night city.
A few things that have been cleared up since this video released
Pondsmith has gone on to confirm that the cat in the flashback is not nibbles, but is Rache Bartmoss' cat from the TTRPG, Death Wish. He also confirmed (somewhat jokingly) that Nibbles is Death Wish's great great great great grandkitten
Cyberpsychosis is real, but isn't caused by "too many cybernetics." It's an addictive response, and was apparently designed back in '88 specifically as a reference to Roid Rage, compounded with emotional trauma. Trauma can speed up the psychosis effect, and the reason V was able to avoid it (besides having massive plot armor until the very end) was because a lot of that damage was just shoved off onto Johnny because of the weird effects of the biochip. How this explains V not going psycho if they survive the plot and Johnny doesn't, we don't know.
Another thing: I feel like it's more likely that Mr. Blue Eyes and the blue-eyed-men are AIs, rather than Aliens. AIs have been trying to escape the Net since the 4th Corporate War (the one that started in 2021), and I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't evidence that they finally made their way out and into the real world by taking control of people in meatspace.
The whole game hints about the AIs. The entire Voodoo Boys part of the game is about that, how shitty things probably will go towards humanity if the blackwall fails or if enough AI can escape. Plus, Alt can transit between the Nets, and she is not trustable at all. Also, she's an amalgamation of AIs, a very very powerful one. I think this is the future of Cyberpunk, what we will find out to be a big issue in the next games.
Grandkitten lore 😌
Strange you assume that V is not affected by cyberpsycosis when literally his mind is being consumed by a construct and changing his personality.
Why was Bartmoss's body dumped in the exact same place as V's body. Did Dexter work with the same organization that dumped Bartmoss's body here or even Dexter himself. Did he have deeper ties with this organization. I feel there is a lot more to this story in particular.
Oh damn that’s a great point, really interesting idea honestly not sure didn’t see anything in my research but cool nonetheless, thanks for supporting my channel by the way!
I think Bartmoss was in hiding from Netwatch, in a safehouse somewhere cruising the deep net in the fridge, like you do with the voodoo boys. Eventually he may have been trapped in ICE or fried by other netrunners, and his body was never found, until they had to get rid of the old appliances in wherever he was staying and they just dumped the fridge in the landfill without checking to see what was in it.
I don't think someone actually found his body and dumped it there intentionally. I mean they would have advertised it, or at least stollen his gear.
I feel like the conceptual nuance of "a dumpster" is being lost here.
since I just replayed CP 2077 and just yesterday came across this section again, I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing. First playthrough I did not think about it much... oh cool, I found the dumpsterplace where I crawled back from the dead and there lies Dex, offed by Goro. Wait, why is there a fridge there? more cyberware? awesome! And went about my way... now, i was like... hm, it is indeed a little odd the probably biggest netrunner ever rests his earthly remains here right next to where the main char AND another former underworld boss were supposed to keep their eternal slumber. could just a conincidence, maybe a little nodd or easteregg, or have way deeper meaning. could also be like genericgorilla said, a fun play on maybe a "lore" or literary devices dumpster.
When I found Bartmoss I was shocked
One thing to note about the Buddhist monks.
If you completed Sacrum Profanum - you can meet the two monks later outside one of the markets. You can ask them if a construct is a person and the answer they give you is basically "it's complicated" but they seem to lean ever so slightly into yes, where the capacity to suffer is what ultimately makes us alive.
When you speak with the Zen Master before the 4th and final meditation the third question "Do you know what's happening to me?" leads to the following dialog:
"You are dying. You have two soul within you - one wants to fight, the other is afraid."
"Which one's mine?"
"Both."
So the Zen Master does consider Johnny to be a living being with a soul.
Awesome video! I just played through Johnny's quest last night where we met Alt and saw the sphinx cat when Johnny was dying on the ground and knew something had to be up. Such a sick game and you just know there are mountains of lore to explore
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I distinctly remember v pointing out the cat to Takumara and he says it could be a demon. He sees the cat too so I'm confused on what you mean. It happens on the roof right before johnny and the cat jump off. So it isnt just johnny and v who see it. Takumara says no sudden movements and points it out and calls it by a name I cant even spell. So v and him talk about how it was dogs and them other animals and cats actually put up a fight. Takumara says it is the first animal he has seen in night city. But also I loved the video. And I have a theory of my own. What if the company bosses behind cyberpunk purposely sent it out to soon because they didnt like the fact about corporate evil that the game boldly stands against? I think it was sabotaged. It clearly speaks out about the evil of corporations and how they control our lives. Guessing big wigs weren't too fond of that. So they made the game seem trashy so people didn't get the message.
My theory is different, I don't think it was internal sabotage, folks don't like to lose money, and and if saying shit about their market pratices give them maney they would ship in with a smile in their faces.
My theory is that theres something more sinister, but also more grounded in reality.
I think all the hate towards CP77, was actually exponentially exploited by other publishers.
You see, until the launching of CP77, CDPR was highly regarded as a company with principles and good market practices, not only that, but they did point their fingers to some giants of the industry that are well know by their disgusting market practices (EA and Ubisoft comes to mind).
EA is an evil company and they having been trashing single player games for a long time now (last week there was that infamous tweet about single player games).
Ubisoft on the other hand didn't have all that flak until recently, but one thing to note here is that a few months befoure the launching of CP77, CDPR market value was on the roof, surpassing guess wich company as the biggest gaming company of Europe? UBISOFT!
This aren't the only companies, many more engage in shady market practices (hell, it's pretty clear now that EA literally want to turn the whole industry into gambling).
So bare with me:
Imagine that CDPR delivered the Cyberpunk that everyone was dreaming, no bugs at all, no performance issues, perfect optimization, lot more features than the game has, all perfectly balanced and smooth.
The good points that folks love the game would stay the same, but instead of hate CDPR, folks would be praising them, they would claim that CP77 is the next chapter in the bible and so on...
CDPR, not only would consolidate as a great company, but would also dominate the market of single player games, their "light" would force some of this companies to literally come out from the shadows and be better, CP77 had the potential to TURN the gaming industry upside down, and i don't say this because of the game itself, but because all the hype surrounding the game.
Could be possible that when this folks smell blood in the water they came down like sharks to feast upon CDPR.
By pointing their fingers on CDPR, they took all the attention against themselves and throw back at them.
I'm not defending CDPR own sins here, just pointing out that if things work as everyone were expecting, the scenario would completely change.
Hm with these kinds of theories I start going crazy with it. What if the elites decided that the message of the game being anti corporate anti bureaucracy was a bit too on the nose so they hired a bunch of shills and used a bunch of bots to spread the word that this game was broken. Hahaha that sounds crazy but in our world crazier shit has often happened. I woulnt put it past the elites that a group of oligarchs said this game was too risky to let be a best selling
I believe that Goro Takemura refers to the cat as a bakeneko at one point.
Don't be ridiculous, it got released too soon because the project managers are incompetent and couldn't manage the development properly, they way overestimated their own skills and thought it would be finished way sooner than it was, meaning they had to delay the release several times, so much so that eventually they couldn't delay it anymore. And just look at the speed of updates too, it's been almost TWO YEARS since release and they've just been fixing bugs, they barely even added any of the features that were promised and had to be scrapped, let alone new features.
@@TheAsj97 You know that it came out recently that the company they paid to test the game screewed up big time. They had a team of newb testers with a newb manager testing this game and CDPR was not aware of how bad this company was doing them until the final year of development.
Here's a theory i got: The Arasaka ending is the only ending where V doesn't die. If you pay attention in every other ending where V "survives" ALT effectively kills V and makes a copy of their mind that she puts onto the relic chip, so your V who made it through all that journey is actually dead and now his body is being controlled by his copy from the chip. You might think that there's no difference, but from the point of view of the original V they no longer exist. The Devil ending on the other hand seems to imply that Arasaka simply cut the chip out of your head, thus preserving the consciousness of the original V.
@@ArmelM101 No, it wouldn't, it's a storytelling conventionality, would be rather anti-climactic if game ended at that point with a black screen and not seeing a proper epilogue would be quite disappointing and also seamlessly changing our perspective from real V to engram V highlights one of Cyberpunk's main themes on the nature of consciousness and soul. If you think about it the whole game is meant to make us wonder if we are still the same person after we get the chip after it literally brings us back from the dead, what does make a person, are we just a sum of our memories, an engram or is there something else like a "soul"? I don't think CDPR or original creators would sink to the levels of "Tech magic" that somehow transfers you onto a chip, it is simply not possible to transfer your consciousness that way and characters throughout the game say it many times that whatever it is on the engram is a COPY, also the word engram itself alludes to that fact too. What the soulkiller and this whole process does is that it maps out your brain making a perfect copy of it and puts the COPY on the chip that simulates a thought-process, all the while killing you in the process, because of what i assume is a technological imperfection which is removed in the new commercial chip as is evident by the fact that Saburo was alive while his engram existed separately and i doubt people would buy into the relic if it meant they would die in the process of making a copy of their mind. Remember that soulkiller killed both Johnny and Alt, their bodies were empty husks and Alt fired V up with soulkiller as well, basically killing them, after that it was a matter of choosing which engram to put on the chip to control the body. I think while this might sound depressing, it also very much in-line with Cyberpunk's themes and brings up many interesting ideas. This really isn't even a theory, because it is explained to us in the game.
@@ArmelM101 This is one of the weakest moments in game - they do play "flatlined" animation when DeShawn kills V, and when V gets killed by "Soulkiller" military-grade battle virus they somehow don't. Apparently, it's either some sort of symbolic narrative, or just a lazy editing.
@@NoName-ym5zj You are spot on with the ending selection, unless Pavel Sasko thinks that V was already dead after climbing out of the landfill and all the game is some sort of Book of the Dead soul travels retelling.
However "the fact that Saburo was alive while his engram existed separately" - is not proved to be the fact by the in-game narrative. They even paint his hologram in different color than the Welles' one. Maybe it is some sort of hint, that Saburo was just killed, and Hanako together with her brother just carried out some sort of damage control game to avoid reprisals from the Saburo's loyalists (like Takemura).
@@vladimirabashkin9337 i would say that it is never outright stated as far as i can remember that he was alive while his engram existed, but you cannot make an engram of a dead person as their brain doesn't function, there is simply no neural activity to map out and since at the beginning of the game the relic chip was close to public release and we know that it's not using an actual soulkiller, but a modified version of it, i assume they made engram process survivable so while never outright confirmed, as far as i can remember, i would say it is safe to assume that Saburo's engram was made while he was alive and kept in some basement until he died.
@@NoName-ym5zj >>but you cannot make an engram of a dead person as their brain doesn't function, there is simply no neural activity to map
That's another dubious point of the story - Jackie was like 100% dead, yet they had made a copy of him.
>> ... i assume they made engram process survivable...
There's a shard named "Secure Your Soul: Medical Report 11
", where Arasaka surgeons describe the procedure results - with only 3 out of 9 passing without any issues. Considering, that those patients start with #210, it is safe to assume that previous success rates were even lower.
I've been a huge huge huge fan since the tabletop series back in the late 80's/90's and seeing what they've done with the vast lore of the game genuinely just makes me so happy. I'm really looking forward to seeing what else cdpr comes up with for the game, specifically phantom liberty
How did you first discover cyberpunk ?
I'm happy I waited 2 years to get into this stunning game! My husband played it on release and he struggled through the bugs, but he said now it's completely different with lots of improvements. I'm in love with the story and hidden lore that almost begs you to look for it all. I haven't finished yet, but I'm excited to! 😁
Same here, so thankful I waited and have a dumb backlog lol... Just picked it up last week and I'm completely hooked on the lore and NC itself
@@pansnemesis The game was fine. I played on release on PC and had not many problems, occasional bugs and some performance issues in some areas but nowhere near as bad as people describe it to be. It's mostly just cries from people on PS4 where the game barely worked.
@@pansnemesis yea I basicly started to play this a week ago and I am still in the middle of my playthrough and I am basicly sitting in my room 24/7 playing this game right now. Truly one of my best gaming experiences of all time. I love this game and think it's a not completely finished masterpiece. Can't wait for the next game, but this will probably take another 10 years haha. 😅
have a pc and plaýed since daý 1, same result.. but 2 ýears more fun
@@Gaphalor sadly yea it'll be forever until we get a proper sequel... The good news is we have dlc right around the corner. Just finished the game for the first time... Going to do another playthrough to do some stuff different.
My very first playthrough I had on the threat detector. (The game had just come out and somehow I did my entire playthrough without any major bugs.) I wasn't sure if it might've been a bug/oversight, but it definitely made the scene play out with far more tension. I excused it with the fact that I was not a threat to someone like Adam, so he didn't even bother raising a finger to try anything.
I never truly finished the game but got very close and spent a good amount of time on side content. I also didn't have any major bugs at the time but performance was mixed. I enjoyed the experience though and eventually planned to return which I'll likely get to very soon. I pre-ordered for PC on the gog launcher.
@@volka2199 I also preordered game, yet I was too curious about it. There was a bug that if you called Jackie before visiting All Foods, so he did not appear there, so you couldn't go inside and continue game. Well, I just tried to get him in Strout mission which was also not possible, sad. The only good thing for me that Hotfix for this was released around 1 hour after I finished every NCPD, gig and side quests available at the time in Watson :D
It's a feature all bosses have that has been coded by the devs - immediately recognise you as a threat so that's why he's red and also why he stares at you point blank. So basically what you see is the Adam Smasher you fight at the end.
In edgerunners, you see rockets fly to the moon from night city daily
So maybe that’s what the space stuff is about
Adam Smasher has X-ray, Thermal vision, night vision and zoom in eye sight. He probably seen us but like he says: *"I only go if its a threat. Otherwise its not worth me time."*
Both Takemura and Misty can see the cat, you can have a conversation about the one visible with him, and Misty will comment the cats name when you interact with it in the final mission.
If you play through Gary's questline, and actually listen to him, you actually realize everything he says is true, he just says it in a very convoluted way.
Oh and 0 neg is V's blood type, you can see it in the Corpo start on the Trauma Team card in the drawer.
My take on what a future cyberpunk game will be about is what's behind the blackwall, and a possible rogue ai outbreak, triggered by V/Johhny.
0 Neg is the universal donor blood type, meaning V can accept any blood type.
@@SSD_Penumbra No, AB+ is a universal acceptor,
@@blacklightredlight2945 AB+ is a universal acceptor, but 0- is the most common blood type. It's also used when the recipient's blood group is unknown. It's also a universal blood type, meaning it can be given to basically anyone. My mistake.
@@SSD_Penumbra Are you meming on me?
@@SSD_Penumbra 0+ is the most common,
Excellent video!
For what it’s worth, I think Johnny does know about the monk since he’s the one who writes your journal entries where he berates you for meditating and entertaining the monk who he thinks is a con-artist.
I can think of a lot of reasons why Johnny would dislike the meditation and refuse to talk to you about it outside of angry journal entries only to direct you to Misty.
Really good point actually, and thank you so much for supporting the channel!
Yeah, Johnny probably just f*cks with you for fun.
While I do think Smasher knows you're there, cause Takemura almost finds you through his normal eye scanners, I think it was just a side effect of how Threat Detector works. Smasher is a boss type enemy, Threat Detector marks these enemies whether they saw you or not. I believe it also marks Sasquatch during the GIM mission regardless of whether she actually saw you.
You forget a few things about smasher. He truly doesn't give a sh*t. If he was ordered to fight then yes. But because he was the only one to know he didn't speak up. Not worth waisting his time with 2 nobodies.
@@knightpal1545also I think he probably thought they were going to get made anyway. And alas they were, thankfully Delamain skedaddled them outta there.
@@homeydiscus5895 he really did. All I could hear was boss music. And the boss music belonged to a fricken CAR
This is awesome. I have been looking for a rabbit hole like this all week! Superb job 👌
Thanks for watching!
Fun factoid, “Maximum Mike” is Mike Pondsmith, the creator of CP, CP2020, CP V3, and CP Red
Super cool right, glad to see you are enjoying my cyberpunk stuff!
I’ve been trying to find this comment. I was going to comment this if I hadn’t found it. Thank you for this cuz Mike pondsmith deserves the credit whenever cyberpunk is mentioned.
@@corvoriever539 he’s a legend for sure
@@FranklyGaming Amen to that, Choomba.
Great video! I've logged in a ton of hours into this game because of the mysteries surrounding the deep lore. The sidequests, the things you find during explorations... As beautiful as Night City and the Badlands may look, there's so much dark secrets going on behind the scenes and it leaves so much to be desired. I hope the new patch and/or the expansion unveils more of it.
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Not sure if it was a bug or not but during a balcony talk with Takemura, a Mr. Blue Eyes was on another balcony quite aways away and he was light up from V's threat detector so I attempted to take him out but nothing worked and he was gone by the time I managed to get over there
20:22 cyberpsychosis is mainly just panic and or alienation caused by their augments, so it doesnt have to be just murderous rage, somebody trying to hide from their neighbors after an augmentation might be a cyberpsycho, so most maelstrom members could still be just peaceful cyberpsychoes, trying to fit in with other hyperaugmented members of the gang
also i forgot where its said but iirc around a third of all of maelstrom is just cyberpsychoes
The thing with Maximum Mike (who is Mike Pondsmith's, the creator of the cyberpunk setting, alter-ego in the setting), and Garry to a lesser extent, is that the conspiracy theories they spout are either real things based on the settings lore, or references to spinoffs to the Cyberpunk TTRPG (vampires are, notably, a reference to the CP2020/VtM crossover book from the early 90's). So, pretty much, _everything_ they say is an Easter Egg for fans of the TTRPG.
Mike Pondsmith also confirmed that the TTRPG's and the Video Game are apart of the same continuity so all of that is just in universe lore something that is referenced in the main story. When you meet Alt she points out that Johnny 's memories of the events surrounding her physical death and Johnny's are inconsistent. Max Mike talks about the bombing of arasaka tower and the information he gives is more in line with how the events are described in the books. While they are references, they are NOT easter eggs
was entertained right until you called it a "conspiracy" that the game made a bad impression. the work culture behind its creation was atrocious, the release was abysmal, and the actual gameplay content and story is... lacking in a lot of areas.
its cool that there's neat stuff in it! a lot of developers worked really hard to put cool stuff into the game! but it's not "one of the greatest games ever" by any means.
I was bummed out when there was no opportunity to go to a space station. I hope the phantom liberty DLC does well. It might mean we get a moon DLC. Maybe get an edge runners Easter egg as well.
there’s already edgerunners Easter eggs/items. You can get David’s jacket and Rebecca’s shotgun
But you can go onto a space station I'd you trust arasaka
I’m actually really loving this commentary and your perception of the game. Is it just just a game. stoked to play through cyber here soon. I hope there is more in the game and mods to come from devs. I know cyber can definitely grow. If they stay real to it. Be super G🔥🔥🔥
I always took Takemura by his word, when he talked about "Bakeneko". Simply said, when I came to that point in the story, I've already noticed this cat being around at every important part of the story and it always being the same cat. This cat is the most subtle non-subtle foreshadowing I've ever seen.
There are more layers to the symbolic nature of the cat. As for the Bakeneko, as Takemura describes it: "it brings misfortune, can restore the dead back to life." while the Sphinx is a guardian spirit. In other folktales and accumulated old and new myths, cats have a special connection with death itself, for example having multiple lives or the ability to see the dead / ghosts.
The cat is such an obvious hint by the developers. It's so obvious, that it is maybe too obvious.
About the Peralez job: Well, it's the one thing I regret the most doing. There's no good outcome for any of them. At the same time, no one should miss out on that job. You'll regret doing this job, but if you don't you miss out on one of the best.
About CP77 Release: I played for 80/90 hours straight (I've eaten and slept, I'm not that demented) after release day on PC and encountered during that time 1 bug. When I finally decided to log out of the game, Pause it and look what people share about it online, I was baffled at the negativity and the experiences other peopel had, as I had none of it. My experience in the first week of CP77 was just neat from beginning to end. And, as I still have that save, after a "couple" more hours on that save, it is still stable. Yes, I've encountered more bugs since then, but it is still below Bethesda-level.
CP77 never deserved this negativity. This hatred. I can only say what I've been saying from the start: When the devs announced the 2nd delay of release, they received death-threats from the community. And if I would've been in charge of development, at that moment I would've thought about not releasing it at all or continue to develop it, as I would never allow my employees to be the target of death threats. And after that, I completely understand why they rushed the release then. Either way, they would've received unreasonable hate. Not critique, hate from those who want to play it. From those who should be excited. I'm not saying you shouldn't be doubtful or voice critique, you should. But what CDPR received wasn't just critique, it was flat out hatred. And that just goes too far.
That's not justifiable by any means. No matter how bad a game is at release, you don't have the right to personally threaten the devs or shower them in hate.
The cat is really interesting thing. I've always considered it just A cat instead of THE cat. Just a recycled model used to represent all the cats in the world. Weird choice to use a bald cat model for it, but whatever. I still don't understand why would such a rare thing as a cat be left on the street (especially with the nomad intro). Maybe there is really more to the cat than what meets the eye and I'm too used to excuse limitations of the medium to see such interesting parts when they are intentional.
As for the release, I'm on the same boat with you. On the other hand, there are tons of people who felt deceived and even lied to by the pre-release promos. Those people tend to be led by emotions instead of reason and will not see the good parts of the game out of pure spite. And they will push their opinion on the other people and will do it loudly. While I don't agree with them, I think I can see where all this hate came from. It is sad, but it is how media works.
To be fair, the issues weren't on PC. The problems were with the console releases. The game was a broken mess on Xbox One and PS4. They never should have released such a mess on those consoles. There is reason it got so panned upon release. It was unacceptable on those consoles. They've done great work to improve the game on consoles and I still enjoy it, but it was an absolute mess...
@@indiana_holmes Completely true, problem only is, that all the complains transported over and people on PC suddenly complained / claimed how unplayable it was because they read some article or commentary and didn't bother to either look for themselves or check on what platform the issues were.
Adding to that, many articles and comments didn't bother to be precise either and just left it open which platform had problems.
And when you stated during that first week, how little problems you had, you were partially just as attacked for "defending that piece of crap", even though you just voiced your experience.
The whole release was exhaustingly frustrating, and left me to just play the game, leave positive reviews, simply because critiques and flat complaints were present enough and too few people voiced the good things about the game and not interact or barely interact with any other person about that game.
@@VulpesChama yeah. I was disappointed with the release as I was on Xbox One, but I figured it'd eventually get fixed and just ignored mainline reviews. I wasn't aware of just how panned it got over all platforms. The PC release looked phenomenal to me. I knew the Xbox One wouldn't look anything like the PC version, but was definitely disappointed with the bugs, unloaded assets, and crashes. It's definitely improved though!
I just waited until it was playable and really enjoyed it! I'll definitely play it again once I finally upgrade to either Xbox Series X or PC...I can't wait for the DLC though!
@@VulpesChama I played it on release, on PC, with fairly modern hardware, and the game was still a mess. Tons of little bugs, graphical glitches, follower NPCs getting stuck and softlocking sequences, a handful of player softlocks (trapped in Delemain HQ... that was the worst one). Personal experiences with bugs aside, EVERYONE dealt with the non-existent cop A.I., lack of world interactivity, cut vehicle combat (with quests, as this video showed, still in the game that were meant to have vehicle combat), the list goes on. A lot of it has since been patched in, but it truly was a poor excuse of a launch from such a respected developer. Immense hype aside, people expected better from CDPR. That's why the game got a bad rap. You can't blame it on journalists when they universally said the game was an incredible 10/10 before release, all it took was the consumers getting their hand on the product for the truth to come out.
36:00 a lot of people may have missed it, but SSRI isn't an innocent name. In the real world it stands for *Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor* and is a common drug used in "treating" depression. It's a drug that modifies the way your mind works. Got it ?
The fact that I've completed the Tiny Mike quest and he's currently seated in the Afterlife waiting to pester TF outta me EVERY SINGLE TIME I walk by leads me to believe they are indeed adding some of this content in slowly! 👏
Dude won't leave that spot. Even when others are also occupying it.
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Well, @FranklyGaming you and a few other creators piqued my interest enough that I went and tried this game!
Thank you! I have had a blast with this game!
Awesome to hear man! Thanks for supporting the content
Great video. Panam will always be my favorite companion that has ever existed in any franchise. The stories each significant character have are extremely compelling and well thought out.
Agree 100% with this, and thanks so much for watching!
Thank you for giving a brief explanation on what an iceberg actually was.
The whole Adam Smasher knowing you were there at Konpeki Plaza isn't true as you said in the video. Coming from a AI Pathing background, the first few steps of getting a Boss Level Enemy or any NPC Target to track the Player is by creating visual aids such as "View Cones" or even in some cases Audio Cues. Boss Enemy's tend to have larger View Cones that are usually the size of thier respective Arena you're fighting them in. My point of view is that, the Adam Smasher you see at Konpeki is just the finalised Boss Version for the endings of the game. The Smasher we see at Konpeki was added to the scene either due to the project constraints that CD Projekt RED had during production which could have halted the animation team on making a separate Rig for Adam but instead just used the Boss Version or the story was altered to add Smasher to the scene as a finalisation to the story.
Never Fade Away Folks.
I'm actually currently exploring the Magenta Theory, and I found out some stuff that people aren't aware of: there are pink lights everywhere the second you exit the elevator to leave your apartment. If you follow them, they lead you to 3 different locations, Riot, I can't remember the other bar, and the roof of the Afterlife. On top of that, when I broke into one of the bars, there was a red and white room with a very similar setup to the hidden room in the Peralez house. The theory is probably going to reveal that the way they infected people without knowing is Joytoys in someway. Because frankly, I found the lack of them odd in a place like Night City. And this one is just my personal guess: I think when Lizzy went full chrome, someone messed with her head, and she's being used as a puppet. She's literally the only character in the ENTIRE GAME that every time you see her, she has bright pink. Also. The devs said it'll obvious in hindsight, and this seems to fall in to category way too well once you notice the lights aren't just randomly placed. Riot is locked behind story progression too, and far enough along that anyone who avoided Takemura (which a very large percent of the player base avoided as long as possible) would be locked out of it until they play the main story
If you go through the voodoo boys to meet Alt Cunningham, some of what she says implies that even removing Johnny from you and re-uploading you back into your body via SoulKiller and the Relic...still comes at the cost of your soul. And given how that ending goes, with V still having complications from Relic malfunctions, it seems she may be right...
It's less that SoulKiller does something to your soul and more so that it just kills your mind, V is still getting relic malfunctions because the thing is literally mutating his body and it's killing him. V got the double whammy of having his body get cyber-induced super cancer AND his brain got wiped then overwritten with a scan of his own mind essentially meaning he's already been killed and is now a cancerous meat puppet piloted by an AI that is technically pretending to be him.
Especially since we find out that engrams aren't really a complete copy of a person's mind and more so an AI constructed out of data harvested from the victim's brain.
Honestly she doesn't even imply it, she just states it as a fact. It's Johnny who doesn't want to think about what that means since he is a construct already.
Its called soul "killer" not soul "transfer" or "copy" that heavily implies that it burns up the soul in the creation of the engram. The process of digitizing what they have discovered to be the human soul is most likely destructive.
Soo does this imply that we destroyed what we wanted to save (ourselves) by trying to ... save it? Or is there an ending without using SoulKiller? (Didn't play/watch all endings). But it's kinda ironic that we sped up the pace of our dying process (losing our soul) by trying to save our ass, poor V... On the other hand aren't we the "soul" of V and does us witnessing what happens after "the end" mean that V's soul survived?
@@smoothie8795 There is no ending without using soulkiller one way or another, and V has to come to terms with that. That's basically what the whole game is about, deciding what it means to be alive, what it means to be human. And what the difference between a human and an intelligent but ultimately soulless engram like Jhonny is.
Omg that was the most interesting video ive seen of yours... you can really see where the development time went in... the game is full of rich lore and interesting mysteries. Im currently on my fourth playthrough and Im still far away from having visited the whole map. Every place in Night City is full of beauty in such a weird way. Everything is just so incredibly detailed that i still sometimes turn off my Hud and just walking through the streets. I desperatly want that cut content especially to fly to space.
Thanks a ton for all the support bubi! Figured you would like this one haha
I restarted a game few weeks ago. Some of those quests are now part of the game: Pedro (Desperate Measures), Tiny Mike (concreate cage trap). And I think Nasty Hangover was also avaible but I need to check it first.
Great video though, great editing and a few secrets I never heard of like the tunnels/catacombs with vampires. Definitely subbing
really good iceberg video. Theorys explained in depth and great in game records. This is what all iceberg videos should be! Subscribed!
Well done.. CD Project should check this video out 100 percent, long ass video but you kept me engaged, thats something!
Really appreciate it man!
The cyberpsychosis control theory makes sense. You can hack enemies and "infect" them with it.
2:35 let's face it. The game's bug filled relase makes it nearly certain for this to be an oversight. It ended up being cool and left in the game as cannon but likley not intended from the start.
I think that Maelstrom was what happened to the corpo vampires storyline since they have a goth metal aesthetic and have the human cloned flesh in all foods body sized meat bags. In fact when I first saw the bags at All Foods and their ad with the person made of vegetables, that's exactly what I thought was going on like in Soylent Green.
theyre 2 seperate gangs in the lore
@@mikeesteves8427 yes but when you're making in game assets you might just improvise ;)
I hope they don't give up on this game, but take the time to achieve the concept we were promised.
its been 1.5 years of legitimate improvement and they stated at the very least they're going to continue the franchise with future entries.
I hope it goes on for another 5 years with great updates since modders and devs are collaborating but damn I can’t wait to see the next cyberpunk running on unreal 5
update 1.5 brought us what the game should have been on launch, we're on 1.6 with the anime's release, and they just announced a DLC for next year with some pretty cool IN-GAME scenes
i'd say things are lookin up :)
@@roobeedooo still missing core features though. And many current features are broken or flawed.
@@OutOfNameIdeas2 this
Games fun, still not what was advertised for years though. Funnily enough, we're STILL yet to get the promised sliders for character customization lol
Just wanted to thank you for the amazing content and hours of research, and importantly giving cp2077 the recognition it deserves, even with all the glitches and flaws it was an amazing ride and still is
This, sir, was an incredible video. At no point during this did I get bored or get an "eyes glazed over" effect as with other longer videos. This had me fully engaged from beginning to end, and I particularly liked the twist at the end and agree with you and find it curious why the main stream wants to curb-stomp CP2077 so badly, it's flaws not withstanding. I'd almost go so far as to suggest it seems like CDPR has been sabotaged at multiple points on this project, if you look at the details. However, some of it seems to come from in-house, and you can see the tells when they try to cover for certain things not having turned out as promised, or doubling back on what they've said. But I digress. Thank you for an excellent video, it's gotten you another subscriber.
It’s funny you say that I made a video about what you are talking about right after this one haha.
And thanks so much for the kind words it means a lot, more icebergs coming for sure (elder scrolls one Thursday).
Thanks for helping the channel
About the Bartmoss quest. He wasn't found by Netwatch. His subscription for the freezer was terminated after 50 years due the lack of payment. So the body went to shit, that's why he is so well preserved. He's probably still in the Net tho.
This was perfectly done, great job my friend 👏🏽
Thanks for the support!
The "Smasher sees You" Can be canon as there is actually more to it. If You read his stats and cyberware, he is running a heat-detector among his vision implants. This, plus enhanced audio recorder similar to the ones in BD recorders.
Additionally he stops for a seconds after leaving the elevator as if off-put by the presence. My head-canon is that Yorinobu simply told Adam (or someone from Arasaka) "DO NOT INTERVENE". So he simply, stood by. Looking at his potential prey. Note that Takemura could easily detect both V and Jackie, but was told not to do a sweep. Doubt that Takemura has more sophisticated implants than Smasher.
I don't think he needs to be told that. The millisecond you lifted a finger against Yorinobu, your body would have been found outside the building and your head 4 and 6 streets over.
I think the reason he backs off after ramming you is because he saw Jackie had the relic inserted, which needs to stay intact. Delamain would retaliate and jeopardise the relic's safety.
Eventhough I knew all the Secrets (except Room 301), it was a very well produced video, that was fun to watch. good work.
The Monk Quests is one of my absolute favorite in the game. Its so unique and strange. I always save it up for last.
I agree the game didn't deserve the backlash it got but on release I had some very game breaking bugs including one that would constantly crash the game, the release was disastrous but I still enjoyed it. Also this was a great video!
Really appreciate the kind words man! I’m actually making a video on it next which should come out soon haha, thanks so much for the support by the way
When V and Jackie go to Misty's shop initially Jackie walked through the door and it wouldn't open for me XD I had to wait for the patch to get past that
It deserved every bit of it
Think this is total shit. Releasing a game that is unplayable on half of consoles upon launch, seriously lacking in many features, and purposely misleading and outright lying to consumers is both abhorrent and unacceptable. This game deserved 100% of the backlash it got.
The game definitely deserved all the backlatch for releasing in the state it was in. CD Project red even apologized for it.
Love the ending point of the video, it’s a great take on how the media can dethrone something amazing. thank you for being an outlier with your opinion and speaking truth about a great product.
As I recently did desperate measures quest its funny to learn what state it was in a year ago! Very nice video, glad to see You keeping it up
Keeping up the good work, not the video btw ;p
I noticed yesterday something interesting about the Nibbles cat. When you go make your last decision on the roof (suicide, rogue ending, arasaka ending...etc) you will see Nibbles on the stairs, but it is there 2 times. First on the bottom of the stairs, then you turn the corner and see it again on top of the stairs.
yeah this is in the panam ending too. Scary cat, just tps from one spot to another
@@alioo8621 Well, you do have a weird and experimental chip stuck in your head. AND you don't think twice when Johnny poofs around as he pleases. Maybe the cat symbolizes the fact that you just want to get the hell out of slant town any way possible. Panam's ending provides that. That's just the game's way of saying, go for the puss or you're really gonna regret it! Also, he showed the clip of V walking up stairs and the cat being there twice. So, you didn't actually notice anything that wasn't there. In fact, I can't see a situation in which someone playing the game wouldn't have noticed the cat being there twice unless they are prone to blackouts every 10 seconds.
Have you ever watch enter the matrix? The déjà vu cat has a meaning
It's a matrix reference
The cat is there for every ending and after every ending you are sent back to the start of the last mission
Great video.
Great conspiracies.
So glad i found this Channel
So bad that a lot of people are missing this channel.
Really really appreciate that man! Thanks for the support
Fully agree. Just saw that the subscription numbers are ridiculously low compared to the great videos I saw. I am sure this will change quickly.
This was crazy good. Ty!
Thanks for supporting my channel!
The statues were confirmed by a dev they are part of a secret in the game that hasn’t been found yet but they won’t disclose it. When it’s founds I’m genuinely curious what it would be
despite all of the obvious surface flaws this game has, it’s still one of the most wonderful games i’ve ever played, and i only hope that they do decide to add more to it, like more story and side missions, and more to do, since i feel like i’ve played it so quickly, and not give up on something with so much potential. i haven’t actually watched your video yet, but i’m excited to do so! i’ll add more when i’m finished! thank you in advance.
You sir, earned my sub. This is the type of CP2077 content I've been waiting for. The Vaati of CP. Thank you!
Thank you for the support and kind words man!
I'm somewhere in the middle when it comes to the whole conspiracy about cyberpunks success. I didn't pay any attention to the marketing and simply paid full price on release. I think it cost me like $80 and honestly I don't regret paying for it. The main story is just so awe inspiring and for a single player game to have 200hrs of playtime for me atleast it must be something special. Perhaps cyberpunks failure was simply it's marketing rather than the game itself. Maybe CDPR should have focussed on what makes their game special before advertising what it could of been.
Those aren’t Johnny’s actual dog tags they were the dog tags of someone who saved Johnny’s life down on South America, so that blood type on them isn’t Johnny’s anyway
CDPR always is excellent with world building like this. Gameplay may be debatable but this kind of stuff reminds me of back in the day when internet forums was all speculation on games and we didnt know every little detail. Love this stuff
Say what you want about the game itself, but the world it takes place in is fantastic. Edgerunners is proof that people want to see more.
Regarding the cat.
There is a drowned person who crashed into the river next to Japan town (I think?).
They have an archived conversation with them where they tell somebody they found a cat and that they are going to be rich while drunk driving iirc.
This is likely the same cat.
I love this iceberg for real, this is the best iceberg outta al; the other icebergs on TH-cam.
Maelstrom do have a lot of implants but it's not only the number of implants that increases risks of cyberpsychosis, but also their type. As mentioned in Edgerunners, the sandevistan alone is a very advanced piece of tech that has huge strain on it's users.
Takumara also sees the cat in that cutscene with Johnny falling off the side. And I highly doubt the cat jumped to its death lol, its a cat. They jump on things and off of things. Also the saddest part of this is the wishes for more content updates
If you look over the ledge from which the cat jumps there's like a 5 foot drop to another ledge. I kinda stopped listening after that claim about the cat because if you have played the game and only paid a small amount of attention you know other people can see the cat.