In one mobile game, Gaston from Beauty and the Beast and The Evil Queen (in Hag Form) from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs fall to their deaths just like in their respective movies!
Hey, wasn’t Clayton a nobody when you killed him in KH1? Tarzan kept going on about how he already lost his heart before you fight him alongside a heartless that seemed to be following his orders like Ansem SoD’s Guardian (the one with Terra’s heart inside). Pretty sure Clayton survives due to recompletion.
I feel like it’s interesting how people blame Disney for the series’ lack of death, considering how many of their individual movies exceed the kill count of this action series.
Yeah, Nomura clearly has a lot of creative liberty and is the main person responsible for the "deaths" being undone all the time and other such retcons.
Because modern Disney is a piece of shit, even in cases like Tangled Mother Gothel rapidly ages into dust. Compare that to Lion King where we see Mufasa fall to his death, we have multiple moments seeing the body and how it affects Simba. Gothel is an evil bitch, but she did raise Rapunzel even if it was for an ulterior motive, Rapunzel should've broken down crying like Gamora did after she thought she killed Thanos in Infinity War.
13:00 How Xion came back is identical to how Baymax came back in Big Hero 6. It’s explained in Re:Mind that Xion’s data was left behind in Vexen’s records. From there, they basically made a 2nd Xion model. And when she fought Axel at the keyblade graveyard, the memories from within both Roxas & Axel’s heart went into Xion, thus bringing her back. Saix intentionally saying Axel and Roxas’s name helped this too.
But I thought no one remember xion that why i confuse how is she in vixen file. Heck sora forget everything in castle oblivion isn’t that the same for xion.
@@om58499 Just because everyone forgot who she was, that doesn’t mean Xion’s research data wouldn’t be in Vexen’s files. The valuables a person leaves behind will still exist even if the person in question was forgotten. The same goes for real life.
@@WingerEdison It’s as simple as her heart transferring to her new body. Same with how Roxas’s heart jumped out of Sora and into the replica body that Vexen & Demyx helped give Ienzo
Aeba’s take about narrative death, (“let story beats affect you even if they’re undone a second later”) hit me and I realized I sometimes try to intellectualize scenes in games / movies more than I let myself feel them! That was a cool realization. Very neat video you two. Ok bye!
I liked that segment as death can also mean metaphorical changes. In Kingdom Hearts, it’s both literal and metaphorical as a character performs an arc and dies only to then be reborn into a new form and new personal change.
@@TheSeaBase Not exactly, just not to be so hypercritical if things don’t pan out to your personal expectations. Expectations vs Narrative is a major issue among entertainment fans these days.
@@kozukiangel5248 I am calling it right now, in 10 years you will think of this comment with tears in your eyes while beating up the optional super boss lion Pete in yozoras lion cub form, carrying the X-Blade telling yourself: I was so fucking right
It’s interesting that your interpretation of the soul in Kingdom Hearts is something like “life-juice” or in other words something that constitutes the living in living things, since this is exactly how Aristotle understands it as the concept that differentiates the living being from a nonliving object.
Oogie Boogie looking totally dead and then just revealing he's absolutely not dead is canon, after his death in the original Nightmare Before Christmas he just kinda came back for the sequel video game (and had a final form that is legally distinct from but suspiciously like his last form in KH, it should be noted), after which he was killed, except in a way that doesn't really say he can't just come back a second time.
Holy. Just....... holy does the ending with aeba hit hard for me. Makes me think of my grandparents and their love of Disney and how I handled their......yea
Disney: Dead parents. Dead parents everywhere. Even: Ienzo's parents are no longer with us, so we're taking care of him. Ienzo: I don't really remember my parents. Nomura, let the boy grieve. There is an arc here that's not being addressed because you can't be bothered to delve deeper into a situation that you've set up.
The way I've thought about it since DDD is this. Being turned into a heartless/nobody is completely separate from dying. On the contrary, it gives you an extra barrier to dying. To die, your complete self needs to die at once. Being turned into a heartless simply splits your being into pieces until those pieces are defeated, at which point you're recompleted and vulnerable. Kind of like Horcruxes but with the added bonus of an extra life. Any mad and strong willed tyrant ought to keep breaking their being apart to make themselves basically invulnerable.
I can't blame you both, along with many of your other friends, for having unique icons/mascots based off of the prismatic melody Heartless. They're just so cute!
The Tremaines are the most confusing case - even if we don't see the result, we see Aqua's and Cinderella's heads tilting as if watching something flying in an arc, so I'd guess that they were just comically launched back, but...ugh, show us something!
As someone who tried to figure out how many people Sora has killed just last week (8 or 28, depending on your semantics) this video popping up in my recommendations is an incredible joy to witness. Finally, someone else thinking too much about death in KH.
"You'll like Absolutely Everything About here, You'll like her there On a train? On a plane? Why you'll like her in the rain." Also just, more cute Heartless "bells" OCs in my life, this is good. Thank you both for the quality content I have immediately subbed to AEA's channel because why the heck would I not, she has a video about KH but with top tier eye color changes. It's the quality content I've yearned for in my life
around 45:00 Idk why but I started tearing up, but hearing the music, and hearing her talk about grief and life really made me realize how special life is and how I take it for granted, I have yet to go through something as painful as grief yet and it is one of my biggest fears. I know it's a stupid kingdom hearts video and I'm sitting here playing kh3 at 6 in the morning worrying about stupid stuff, but it really is a special world we live in.
I agree with almost everything you two said! Definitely one of your best videos yet! You even got me to subscribe to another youtuber, something no other channel managed to do!
Stellar video! This series has been going for so long, and people are still making incredible content like this. This is one of the best kh analysis videos, and the most unique and thought provoking
To be fair, I don't think "Disney has a lot of deaths in different movies" really discredits the idea of "Disney could be preventing THIS story from having major deaths". But this was an insightful video, and I think we might be overestimating Disney's efforts in this regard, or at least underestimating Nomura's own penchant to negate or avoid death.
Always happy to see more Aeba content, especially when it’s part of a Regular Pat video! Great stuff, and hopefully the first of many team ups for you two!
The sheer amount of work you guys put into videos like this amazes me I love your content it makes me think about not just kh but every media I encounter in a more analytical way and it makes me so excited to come up with a theory or see that something I've theorized about pop up in one of your videos!
1) Your script regards Emblem Heartless as being the hearts that went into their creation, but I've long held a perspective that the Heartless and the heart are distinct, and that the former is shaped by the latter. Purebloods are just darkness, influenced by whatever factors, but still usually more basic in function and form, usually just beefed up in their intensities. Emblems, though, are sweepingly distinct, but I'd say they still "are just darkness", but here more personally shaped by the heart they contain, and that defeating the Heartless is not defeating that heart, but freeing it from its animate containment (whether the heart exists in a physically discrete space or some metaphysical absence). B) Took a while to get to it, but when discussing what happens to released hearts, I had long assumed they return to (the true) Kingdom Hearts, with the artificial one of the Organization intercepting hearts by that same mechanic. But that Nomura quote about hearts going into "suspension", grief, complicate it more, whydoncha?
This is where you must take word of god lore and ignore it, as there's not only no precedent, but lore directly showing the opposite. There's a certain point where less you retcon it in game, you cannot believe the writers there, as it doesn't fit with what they choose to show us.
You silly billy this is a Kingdom Hearts game no one else can die, and at the ending of the video you killed it/nailed it Regular Pat and her as well you ace the ending speech pretty well I do say so myself.
I think the Fox and the Hound was also about stopping the cycle of revenge, honestly, given that Amos ultimately decides to not kill Todd out of anger for Chief's -death- injury. It's just that the bear winds up being a fairly out of nowhere plot device that serves as a lesson for Amos rather than a character.
Wow... I never thought I would be shedding tears at work from listening to a kh video about death ... That last quarter hit way too hard .. Oh and Regular Steve or whatever was ok too or something. Great Collab.
Honestly, I actually think Square Enix would be more of the issue with death than Disney. I mean, just think of any Square Enix franchise and there is more than likely at least 1 character who "Dies" just to come back later. TWEWY is literally about dead people trying to fight to come back to life.
Really good video, that went in a direction completely different than expected. You certainly "killed it". PD: Did you know that, apparently, The Queen/Witch turned the Magic Mirror into an Unversed with that potion? They don't even elaborate how and why, but it's there. Messing with Vanitas' supposed exclusivity for absolutely no reason.
9:45 It’s my headcanon now that Travis the Traverse Town NPC’s heart was released but sora, since Kingdom Hearts (from two) hadn’t yet been started, and his nobody was destroyed by one of the org members in one of those missions where you have to kill a crap ton of dusks. He was then recompleted where his body last was
Okay, first off, this came out on my B-day...um...YES Second, I am estatic about this topic because I talk about this all the time on discord with some folks. When they bring up that 'Oh, Disney wouldn't let them kill off more characters' and I'm like, 'Bro, Disney literally kills at least 2-4 people per movie half the time' I think the Disney death that shocked me the most was probably Clayon. Tarzan TRIED to warn this man but his anger just drove him to keep cutting and cutting until he cut the wrong vine and...well, that's all folks. I remember gasping when I saw it for the first time when the lightning flashed and showed his hanging silhouette. Will stick with me forever. Anyway, good video! Nice jokes and good explanation's all around. Looking forward to seeing more from the both of you.
this video reminds me that while i really enjoy kingdom hearts, it's also so fucking stupid lmao gotta love it really great video btw!! you two are fantastic together!
As a Repliku fan, I honestly think there's a lot that coulda been done with him if they let him live. Like figuring out his own identity despite being a clone, connecting with Xion, Roxas, and reconnecting with Namine. I feel like killing him off a second time was kinda a slap in the face, and that if they were gonna go ahead and bring everyone back, they shoulda just stuck with him, too. Heck, Lea could've had to face the fact that he led this kid to his death. Lots of untapped potential. Alas!
The only reason Goofy was knocked unconscious was to get Mickey separated from the group and to let Sora fight solo with FF characters in Hollow Bastion during the "Thousand Heartless" battle set-piece. Totally worth it. I forgive the games for bringing him back a minute later for the chance to fight alongside Cloud and Leon.
"This can't be happening..." "Light...B-But why?!" "No...Please don't! I don't want to - !" "I think I'm...I'm fading?! No, this isn't...the way I...I won't...ALLOW..." "So this...This is the heart of a hero!" "You are the Superior's...? Forgive me, Zexion. This is a fight I should not have started." "You can't do this!" "A faithful replica until the very end. That's...okay." "I feel...cold." "Simba...!" "No wayyyyy!" "Is this the end?" "That belongs to me!" "No...How can I BE defeated again, by a pack of filthy street rats?" "We...would have made a great team..." "Kairi's in the castle dungeon. Now go!" "Wouldn't you like to know?" "How could you, Roxas?" "Kingdom Hearts...Where is my heart?" "Cursed...Keyblade..." "Good-bye, Roxas. See you again. I'm glad...I got to meet you. Oh...and of course, Axel, too. You're both my best friends. Never forget. That's the truth." "My own heart is darkness!" "Why..." "And He shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit. Forever!" "Judgment is mine!" "No...Why?" "He's my son." "No! Oh no. No...What have you done? What have you done?!" "You're not...real...I'm...the real one..." "Good luck." "What? It is time to move on, boy...There is more to seek...so go forth now, and seek it..." "Really? It must take...incredible strength..." "Goodbye, Sora. Your time...in this world is - !" "Here. Ready, my friend?" "Yes..."
I think Repliku only stuck around cause of how much emotion and feeling he managed to have during CoM so when he ended up in the realm of darkness he was able to keep himself together. His goal being to protect Namine and in helping Riku he finally achieved his goal and peaced out.
Afaict, the only way disney is holding back this series is by preventing the games from doing anything original with the princess properties lest they risk the marketability of the precious brand. And even that is, on the franchise scale, a recent problem that really only hurt kh3.
It's so cool that you jumped into a topic like this because I was legit just about to suggest "KH metaphysics/philosophy/politics" as a possible future video topic! You always have really insightful things to say about the mechanics and aesthetics of KH, so I'm not surprised that you were able to get into some thought-provoking stuff here! There's a lot to chew on with this series and I hope you end up making more videos like this. Also: KH3 world ranking and a video where you go into what you'd like to see in the series going forward (what/who to focus on, which Disney worlds, how the gameplay could evolve, etc.) would be really exciting to see, if you are taking suggestions at all! Fantastic work! 🙂
Regarding the Emblem, Ansem did mention he marked them and the way the text reads to me seems to imply the machine didn't originally mark them "The artificially and naturally created Heartless showed nearly identical traits. But the two types remain distinct for the purpose of the experiment. So, I will mark the ones that are created artificially." The "So, I will" seems to indicate to me he did a separate thing to mark all Emblem Heartless, which in headcanon I just assume he did a magic spell to mark all of them and getting transformed into one triggers the magic to mark you.
I wasn't sure what she was going to add to the video, and once I figured out that she was mostly going to be ranting about Disney in general I wasn't sure if I wanted to watch it... But it feels like she really put her heart into her part while talking about death in Disney to contextualize why she believes Disney has had little to no input on deaths in their meddling of Kingdom Hearts. Very well done, one of the very very few times where I'll be checking out a collaborator guest on a video like this. ALSO YOU'RE SUCH A CHEATER FOR PUTTING KAIRI'S THEME IN THAT SPOT, GOD DAMN IT
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In one mobile game, Gaston from Beauty and the Beast and The Evil Queen (in Hag Form) from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs fall to their deaths just like in their respective movies!
@@Aeba of course! Only the best of friends can insult someone’s fanbase and get away with it.
you forgot to talk about Xion ha ha get it please laugh
Hey, wasn’t Clayton a nobody when you killed him in KH1? Tarzan kept going on about how he already lost his heart before you fight him alongside a heartless that seemed to be following his orders like Ansem SoD’s Guardian (the one with Terra’s heart inside). Pretty sure Clayton survives due to recompletion.
Wait a minute:
7 dead KH characters
13 dead Disney characters
Nomura's trying to form a X-Blade of death!
Oh gosh...
Wow… I never noticed…
What about Xehanort and Eraqus' classmates?
Oh god damn it I am going to beat Nomura with 7 crowbars and 13 chairs if he doesn't let this number crap go already...
Ha ha, of course
I feel like it’s interesting how people blame Disney for the series’ lack of death, considering how many of their individual movies exceed the kill count of this action series.
Yeah, Nomura clearly has a lot of creative liberty and is the main person responsible for the "deaths" being undone all the time and other such retcons.
It’s kinda like Dragon Ball… no one really “dies”
Because modern Disney is a piece of shit, even in cases like Tangled Mother Gothel rapidly ages into dust. Compare that to Lion King where we see Mufasa fall to his death, we have multiple moments seeing the body and how it affects Simba. Gothel is an evil bitch, but she did raise Rapunzel even if it was for an ulterior motive, Rapunzel should've broken down crying like Gamora did after she thought she killed Thanos in Infinity War.
@@jomaq9233 yeah their die their just be brought back to life with the dragon balls.
@@heartless2147 THIS. they shy away from actual, believable sadness, death, and trauma rather than depict them as what they are. it's bullshit.
13:00 How Xion came back is identical to how Baymax came back in Big Hero 6. It’s explained in Re:Mind that Xion’s data was left behind in Vexen’s records. From there, they basically made a 2nd Xion model.
And when she fought Axel at the keyblade graveyard, the memories from within both Roxas & Axel’s heart went into Xion, thus bringing her back. Saix intentionally saying Axel and Roxas’s name helped this too.
wait I didn't realise saix intentionally helped with that,,,, maybe I can forgive him for terrorising xion in days now......maybe...
But I thought no one remember xion that why i confuse how is she in vixen file. Heck sora forget everything in castle oblivion isn’t that the same for xion.
@@om58499 Just because everyone forgot who she was, that doesn’t mean Xion’s research data wouldn’t be in Vexen’s files. The valuables a person leaves behind will still exist even if the person in question was forgotten. The same goes for real life.
How does her heart from within Sora factor into that?
@@WingerEdison It’s as simple as her heart transferring to her new body. Same with how Roxas’s heart jumped out of Sora and into the replica body that Vexen & Demyx helped give Ienzo
"if i had a heart, this would be where i die-"
this made me cackle so hard i died-
Wait a minute; despite dying you still were able to type this. Are you a Nobody now?
Aeba’s take about narrative death, (“let story beats affect you even if they’re undone a second later”) hit me and I realized I sometimes try to intellectualize scenes in games / movies more than I let myself feel them! That was a cool realization. Very neat video you two. Ok bye!
That's why it's called Kingdom Hearts lol.
I liked that segment as death can also mean metaphorical changes.
In Kingdom Hearts, it’s both literal and metaphorical as a character performs an arc and dies only to then be reborn into a new form and new personal change.
Essentially this is saying turn ur brain off.
Personally I've always been the type to let story beats affect me even if they are undone. I've just never been the critical type.
@@TheSeaBase Not exactly, just not to be so hypercritical if things don’t pan out to your personal expectations.
Expectations vs Narrative is a major issue among entertainment fans these days.
I can't wait for kh4 when Scar comes back again just to break Pat.
*somehow*
Just wait till they make Lion Pete with Ray tracing
@@kozukiangel5248 I am calling it right now, in 10 years you will think of this comment with tears in your eyes while beating up the optional super boss lion Pete in yozoras lion cub form, carrying the X-Blade telling yourself: I was so fucking right
Y’know, Aeba’s segment about the historical context of Disney death was very insightful. Great job you two.
The part in Chain of Memories where axel makes vexen burst into flames as sora watches with a horrified look always scared me when i was little
It’s interesting that your interpretation of the soul in Kingdom Hearts is something like “life-juice” or in other words something that constitutes the living in living things, since this is exactly how Aristotle understands it as the concept that differentiates the living being from a nonliving object.
Aeba's "Go to hell" moment was so hilarious for some reason. She is funny for sure and you two do well in collaborations. I loved it!
I loved Aeba's part in this, what a great collaboration! I've never seen her work before, I'll have to check it out!
47:43
That. Entire. Detour. Was worth it for this punchline.
The entire 20+ minute thing that could have been it’s own video, love this channel, man.
28:09 The cutoff is so perfect
Oogie Boogie looking totally dead and then just revealing he's absolutely not dead is canon, after his death in the original Nightmare Before Christmas he just kinda came back for the sequel video game (and had a final form that is legally distinct from but suspiciously like his last form in KH, it should be noted), after which he was killed, except in a way that doesn't really say he can't just come back a second time.
Holy. Just....... holy does the ending with aeba hit hard for me. Makes me think of my grandparents and their love of Disney and how I handled their......yea
I love the tone difference with the neutral and Stoic Pat
The emotional and lovely Aba!
Loved the video guys you guys really dud kill it!
Dude, Aeba was about to get me tearing up too near the end of her segment 🥺🥺😭
23:01 made me realize this video came out before the KH4 trailer haha
i noticed that too, was looking for this exact comment
What a watch. Never fails to impress Pat, AND Aeba, good work. 50 minutes flew by
Guys that was phenomenal. Aeba almost had me crying at the end there. Very well made!
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i did cry. not ashamed
Disney: Dead parents. Dead parents everywhere.
Even: Ienzo's parents are no longer with us, so we're taking care of him.
Ienzo: I don't really remember my parents.
Nomura, let the boy grieve. There is an arc here that's not being addressed because you can't be bothered to delve deeper into a situation that you've set up.
The way I've thought about it since DDD is this. Being turned into a heartless/nobody is completely separate from dying. On the contrary, it gives you an extra barrier to dying.
To die, your complete self needs to die at once. Being turned into a heartless simply splits your being into pieces until those pieces are defeated, at which point you're recompleted and vulnerable. Kind of like Horcruxes but with the added bonus of an extra life.
Any mad and strong willed tyrant ought to keep breaking their being apart to make themselves basically invulnerable.
I mean that was essentially Xehanort's plan.
I can't blame you both, along with many of your other friends, for having unique icons/mascots based off of the prismatic melody Heartless. They're just so cute!
The Tremaines are the most confusing case - even if we don't see the result, we see Aqua's and Cinderella's heads tilting as if watching something flying in an arc, so I'd guess that they were just comically launched back, but...ugh, show us something!
As someone who tried to figure out how many people Sora has killed just last week (8 or 28, depending on your semantics) this video popping up in my recommendations is an incredible joy to witness. Finally, someone else thinking too much about death in KH.
"You'll like Absolutely Everything About here,
You'll like her there
On a train?
On a plane?
Why you'll like her in the rain."
Also just, more cute Heartless "bells" OCs in my life, this is good. Thank you both for the quality content I have immediately subbed to AEA's channel because why the heck would I not, she has a video about KH but with top tier eye color changes. It's the quality content I've yearned for in my life
around 45:00 Idk why but I started tearing up, but hearing the music, and hearing her talk about grief and life really made me realize how special life is and how I take it for granted, I have yet to go through something as painful as grief yet and it is one of my biggest fears. I know it's a stupid kingdom hearts video and I'm sitting here playing kh3 at 6 in the morning worrying about stupid stuff, but it really is a special world we live in.
I agree with almost everything you two said! Definitely one of your best videos yet! You even got me to subscribe to another youtuber, something no other channel managed to do!
gah i love this video i’m so glad it’s officially out and about, one of my favorites for sure, thank you.
Stellar video! This series has been going for so long, and people are still making incredible content like this. This is one of the best kh analysis videos, and the most unique and thought provoking
"General Kairi appreciation"?!?!?! I'm subscribing to her immediately.
Thanks for the visual aid for Bad Mushrooms. Appreciated that.
not even finished with the video yet i already know that this is already your most impressive one so far. always interested in your kh commentary :D
To be fair, I don't think "Disney has a lot of deaths in different movies" really discredits the idea of "Disney could be preventing THIS story from having major deaths". But this was an insightful video, and I think we might be overestimating Disney's efforts in this regard, or at least underestimating Nomura's own penchant to negate or avoid death.
"Under a new life and new name in Argentina"
Daaaaamn, that's a good joke.
Travis' will to make good on those accessory shop deals was strong enough to send his Nobody back inside with a friendly face and zero a-hyucks given.
This may be the channel that sets the record for most references to Kairi's grandmother on all of TH-cam
Always happy to see more Aeba content, especially when it’s part of a Regular Pat video! Great stuff, and hopefully the first of many team ups for you two!
I'll admit with the big-ass diatribe on Disney's portrayal of death, I forgot this was a KH video lol.
The “that’s a weird name” at 7:58 legitimately made me choke on my pizza.
The sheer amount of work you guys put into videos like this amazes me I love your content it makes me think about not just kh but every media I encounter in a more analytical way and it makes me so excited to come up with a theory or see that something I've theorized about pop up in one of your videos!
killin me with these incredibles clips around 29 min in, lmfao
100% credit to Aeba for that, she did the tracking for me because I'm a baby
This was delightful. Thank you both!
Wait 7 original characters dead
13 non original characters of kingdom hearts
7
13
7 LIGHTS
13 DARKNESSES
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
45:35 I’ve actually been dead for several years now. The WiFi in the afterlife is really good.
1) Your script regards Emblem Heartless as being the hearts that went into their creation, but I've long held a perspective that the Heartless and the heart are distinct, and that the former is shaped by the latter. Purebloods are just darkness, influenced by whatever factors, but still usually more basic in function and form, usually just beefed up in their intensities. Emblems, though, are sweepingly distinct, but I'd say they still "are just darkness", but here more personally shaped by the heart they contain, and that defeating the Heartless is not defeating that heart, but freeing it from its animate containment (whether the heart exists in a physically discrete space or some metaphysical absence).
B) Took a while to get to it, but when discussing what happens to released hearts, I had long assumed they return to (the true) Kingdom Hearts, with the artificial one of the Organization intercepting hearts by that same mechanic. But that Nomura quote about hearts going into "suspension", grief, complicate it more, whydoncha?
This is where you must take word of god lore and ignore it, as there's not only no precedent, but lore directly showing the opposite. There's a certain point where less you retcon it in game, you cannot believe the writers there, as it doesn't fit with what they choose to show us.
You silly billy this is a Kingdom Hearts game no one else can die, and at the ending of the video you killed it/nailed it Regular Pat and her as well you ace the ending speech pretty well I do say so myself.
The king and queen of TH-cam have returned.
Thank you!! Pat's a very good Queen 👑
@@Aeba wait a minute
DARE I SAY this is the best one yet?? YES. I DO! Good as hell. Gaston's footstance is wack, thank you mr. pat and aeba for this bitchin vid!
this was amazing
I still clap/quote Aeba's "Let. Story. Beats. Affect you." like once a week lol
I knew this was gonna be a killer video (pun intended) as soon as I heard the intro
I think the Fox and the Hound was also about stopping the cycle of revenge, honestly, given that Amos ultimately decides to not kill Todd out of anger for Chief's -death- injury. It's just that the bear winds up being a fairly out of nowhere plot device that serves as a lesson for Amos rather than a character.
Wow... I never thought I would be shedding tears at work from listening to a kh video about death ... That last quarter hit way too hard ..
Oh and Regular Steve or whatever was ok too or something.
Great Collab.
23:00
this aged a bit too well…
So did this. 18:12
Excellent Collab. Hearing about Disney's relationship with death through the eras of films was super interesting.
Woah, this was a great video Pat, well done!
“If I had a heart this would be where I die” got me
This is one of my favorite videos on the channel.
Thank you for making this, Kingdom Hearts is really deep to me lol
i envy your ability to come up with good video essay topics
This basically became a completely different video by the halfway point
Idk how i ended up here but I'm glad to have found and watched this video
Honestly, I actually think Square Enix would be more of the issue with death than Disney. I mean, just think of any Square Enix franchise and there is more than likely at least 1 character who "Dies" just to come back later. TWEWY is literally about dead people trying to fight to come back to life.
Oh Cool!! I love Aeba's content, it's quickly become one of my favorite KH channels.
Another lovely video thank you
Pat this is a great video as always but your editing has evolved to the next level! Keep up the good work
I was crying at the end when talking about Grief. It was so poignant and wonderful.
I love this collab!! Nice to meet you Aeba! 🗝️💖
22:54 This aged well. Ain’t it isn’t even a joke.
Really good video, that went in a direction completely different than expected. You certainly "killed it".
PD: Did you know that, apparently, The Queen/Witch turned the Magic Mirror into an Unversed with that potion? They don't even elaborate how and why, but it's there. Messing with Vanitas' supposed exclusivity for absolutely no reason.
This was a fantastic analysis!!
9:45 It’s my headcanon now that Travis the Traverse Town NPC’s heart was released but sora, since Kingdom Hearts (from two) hadn’t yet been started, and his nobody was destroyed by one of the org members in one of those missions where you have to kill a crap ton of dusks. He was then recompleted where his body last was
Wow this was fantastic and I’m definitely gonna go check out her channel
Okay, first off, this came out on my B-day...um...YES
Second, I am estatic about this topic because I talk about this all the time on discord with some folks. When they bring up that 'Oh, Disney wouldn't let them kill off more characters' and I'm like, 'Bro, Disney literally kills at least 2-4 people per movie half the time'
I think the Disney death that shocked me the most was probably Clayon. Tarzan TRIED to warn this man but his anger just drove him to keep cutting and cutting until he cut the wrong vine and...well, that's all folks. I remember gasping when I saw it for the first time when the lightning flashed and showed his hanging silhouette. Will stick with me forever.
Anyway, good video! Nice jokes and good explanation's all around. Looking forward to seeing more from the both of you.
this video reminds me that while i really enjoy kingdom hearts, it's also so fucking stupid lmao gotta love it
really great video btw!! you two are fantastic together!
Aeba almost made me cry when she talked about death in Disney movies .
King Pat. Great video and will be sure to check out Aeba’s vids
Woody roast on Young xehanort is the closest thing to a death in the entire franchise
Thank god Aeba let me know I’m alive. I was worried for a sec!
So excited to watch this
this was such a great video! you two should collab more often. i would go subscribe to aeba if I wasn't already subscribed to her
Awesome video as always! Loved the editing in this one :D
As a Repliku fan, I honestly think there's a lot that coulda been done with him if they let him live. Like figuring out his own identity despite being a clone, connecting with Xion, Roxas, and reconnecting with Namine. I feel like killing him off a second time was kinda a slap in the face, and that if they were gonna go ahead and bring everyone back, they shoulda just stuck with him, too. Heck, Lea could've had to face the fact that he led this kid to his death. Lots of untapped potential. Alas!
What does it mean that immediately after the section on Heartless, an ad popped up featuring Kevin ... Hart? 🤔
The only reason Goofy was knocked unconscious was to get Mickey separated from the group and to let Sora fight solo with FF characters in Hollow Bastion during the "Thousand Heartless" battle set-piece.
Totally worth it. I forgive the games for bringing him back a minute later for the chance to fight alongside Cloud and Leon.
Damn that was amazing!!!
aeba you got me when you said "fiancé-divorcé-fiancé Saix"
"This can't be happening..."
"Light...B-But why?!"
"No...Please don't! I don't want to - !"
"I think I'm...I'm fading?! No, this isn't...the way I...I won't...ALLOW..."
"So this...This is the heart of a hero!"
"You are the Superior's...? Forgive me, Zexion. This is a fight I should not have started."
"You can't do this!"
"A faithful replica until the very end. That's...okay."
"I feel...cold."
"Simba...!"
"No wayyyyy!"
"Is this the end?"
"That belongs to me!"
"No...How can I BE defeated again, by a pack of filthy street rats?"
"We...would have made a great team..."
"Kairi's in the castle dungeon. Now go!"
"Wouldn't you like to know?"
"How could you, Roxas?"
"Kingdom Hearts...Where is my heart?"
"Cursed...Keyblade..."
"Good-bye, Roxas. See you again. I'm glad...I got to meet you. Oh...and of course, Axel, too. You're both my best friends. Never forget. That's the truth."
"My own heart is darkness!"
"Why..."
"And He shall smite the wicked and plunge them into the fiery pit. Forever!"
"Judgment is mine!"
"No...Why?"
"He's my son."
"No! Oh no. No...What have you done? What have you done?!"
"You're not...real...I'm...the real one..."
"Good luck."
"What? It is time to move on, boy...There is more to seek...so go forth now, and seek it..."
"Really? It must take...incredible strength..."
"Goodbye, Sora. Your time...in this world is - !"
"Here. Ready, my friend?"
"Yes..."
21:18 This is the deepest joke in the whole video.
This man’s content is next level, so bingeable 🙌🏾
I think Repliku only stuck around cause of how much emotion and feeling he managed to have during CoM so when he ended up in the realm of darkness he was able to keep himself together. His goal being to protect Namine and in helping Riku he finally achieved his goal and peaced out.
Yay, Treasure Planet clips :D
Afaict, the only way disney is holding back this series is by preventing the games from doing anything original with the princess properties lest they risk the marketability of the precious brand. And even that is, on the franchise scale, a recent problem that really only hurt kh3.
Really it's up to the individual teams behind each film.
It's so cool that you jumped into a topic like this because I was legit just about to suggest "KH metaphysics/philosophy/politics" as a possible future video topic! You always have really insightful things to say about the mechanics and aesthetics of KH, so I'm not surprised that you were able to get into some thought-provoking stuff here! There's a lot to chew on with this series and I hope you end up making more videos like this.
Also: KH3 world ranking and a video where you go into what you'd like to see in the series going forward (what/who to focus on, which Disney worlds, how the gameplay could evolve, etc.) would be really exciting to see, if you are taking suggestions at all!
Fantastic work! 🙂
OK HOLD ON THIS THE BEST CROSSOVER???
Regarding the Emblem, Ansem did mention he marked them and the way the text reads to me seems to imply the machine didn't originally mark them
"The artificially and naturally created Heartless showed nearly identical traits. But the two types remain distinct for the purpose of the experiment. So, I will mark the ones that are created artificially."
The "So, I will" seems to indicate to me he did a separate thing to mark all Emblem Heartless, which in headcanon I just assume he did a magic spell to mark all of them and getting transformed into one triggers the magic to mark you.
This is really good
I wasn't sure what she was going to add to the video, and once I figured out that she was mostly going to be ranting about Disney in general I wasn't sure if I wanted to watch it...
But it feels like she really put her heart into her part while talking about death in Disney to contextualize why she believes Disney has had little to no input on deaths in their meddling of Kingdom Hearts. Very well done, one of the very very few times where I'll be checking out a collaborator guest on a video like this.
ALSO YOU'RE SUCH A CHEATER FOR PUTTING KAIRI'S THEME IN THAT SPOT, GOD DAMN IT