Ranking Every Boss in Kingdom Hearts 2
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Music used (in order):
"Shipmeisters' Shanty" from Kingdom Hearts II (2005)
"A Walk in Andante" from Kingdom Hearts (2002)
"The Encounter" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Rowdy Rumble" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Sinister Shadows" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Dance to the Death" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Vim and Vigor" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Tension Rising" from Kingdom Hearts II
"The Corrupted" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Beneath the Ground" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Desire for All That Is Lost" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Adventures in the Savannah" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Lazy Afternoons" from Kingdom Hearts II
"The 13th Struggle" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Laughter and Merriment" from Kingdom Hearts II
"My Own Worst Enemy" by Lit (1998) cover by David Russell (2021)
"The 13th Dilemma" from Kingdom Hearts II
"One-Winged Angel" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Disappeared" from Kingdom Hearts Final Mix (2002)
"A Fight to the Death" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Rage Awakened" from Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix (2007)
"The Other Promise" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Ursula's Revenge" from Kingdom Hearts II
"Darkness of the Unknown" from Kingdom Hearts II
"What a Surprise?!" from Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix (2007)
Footage from (in order):
Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix (2007)
Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix (2011)
Kingdom Hearts III (2019)
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (2012)
Kingdom Hearts Final Mix (2002)
Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories (2007)
A Christmas Story (1983)
Hercules (1997)
The Lion King (1994)
Kingdom Hearts Re:coded movie (2014)
The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Sephiroth reveal trailer (2020)
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (2018)
Kingdom Hearts III Re Mind (2020)
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days movie (2013)
hey there, merry christmas. this was supposed to be out uhhhh on christmas. santa was drunk on christmas eve. love you all, thanks for an amazing year.
(tension rising, in fact, plays during non-bosses. idk why i said that)
Thanks a bunch, also wow late at night where I’m from. Don’t tell my parents. Can’t wait to watch the video.
Merry late Crimmus!
17:10 Hercules should be a bit higher, seeing as he should have killed you here.
18:15 In the groundshaker bossfight, Simba is your only party member.
@@clearlynotepic571 damn. so true bestie
My favorite bit of the final Xemnas fight is that when he captures Sora in the life drain beam he sometimes says "Can you spare a heart?" And considering Sora has like three hearts in him at the time it is a valid question.
Lmao
He has four. His own heart counts too.
I love "we shall go together".
@@dekuisagreatmaincharacter five* vanitas has a heart, it's just pure darkness
roxas, vanitas, ventus, xion, himself
It‘s times like these where I wish that I could just reset all my knowledge of Kingdom Hearts lore. Just the sheer absurdity of OP saying that the main character has *three hearts* inside of him, only to be told that he actually has *four hearts,* which is then corrected by a third person saying that he actually has *five hearts* is just so funny and among the reasons for why I fell in love with these games and this side of the community
It actually is explained in the kh recap book that the lingering will mistakes sora for riku because sora had gotten the keyblade that was supposed to be given to riku due to riku falling to darkness. He then realizes you aren't him so naturally assumes that you must be working for xeahnort since you stole said keyblade so decided to fight you to take you down before realizing you alright.
I had actually guessed this when I first fought him. I remembered something about some character saying rikku was the original weilder of the keyblade but if it was in KH1 I forgot cause the gameplay of it was so bad I couldn't finish it.
@@justinrush7463Skill issue
@@justinrush7463 You should give 358/2 Days a try…
I think Lingering Will still doesn’t realize you ain’t Riku since he says ‘that’s the power I sensed within you’ to Sora, when it was Riku he gave the keyblade to.
Eh, whatever.
@@justinrush7463 Riku* Rikku is the Final Fantasy X character, member of the gull wings.
But yeah, agree, KH1 sucks
I actually have a headcanon regarding Demyx's "Dance Water Dance" attack.
My theory is that he does that attack as a distraction so that he can escape. The whole time you're fighting those water clones, he's looking for his opportunity to slink away, and once you run out of time, he's already found his opportunity, and bolted.
You lose, because you lost him.
I used to see it as when you run out of time the water just piled up on sora drowning him but I like your theory more
That makes a lot of sense
That explains the stupid short 10 second frame if he does it mid second battle
he danced water danced
That actually makes sense.
"Who releases a KH2 Boss Ranking at 3AM?"
Regular Pat(rick): "OH BOY 3 AM"
It’s 4:00AM for me
MY NAME'S NOT RICK
@@troxciv8319 exactly what I was thinking
Time zones are a thing...
@@wholelottanuts yes
1:17:25 He actually casts a single fireball without his key in Days during the magic tutorial. They even went through the effort of giving him a key-less casting animation for that one single moment.
though he does share the animation with hooded xion, who can only cast magic iirc, it's still neat.
@@oathkeeperofoblivion972 yeah I vividly remember xion using magic before she gets the keyblade
"...shoot a beam through Xemnas in a move that is usually reserved for keyholes, but clearly works on assholes too."
Well, I'm pretty sure this is the best line that has ever appeared in anything even tangentially related to Kingdom Hearts. Pack it in everybody, the discourse has peaked, it's all downhill from here.
😂😂😂
What about sora saying “your stupid” to riku
We literally never see Keyholes utilized after KH1.
Apparently if you don't beat the water clones, Sora gets overwhelmed and Demyx gets away. So it's the equivalent of throwing a bucket of water on someone and running around the corner.
Yeah that about sums up demyx’s character honestly, just tape a blonde mullet to the bucket
I have an answer for the Demyx minigame-loss question if you're interested.
If Demyx wins his minigame:
(Encounter 1) Demyx succeeds in wasting Sora's time and escapes with the stone of Olympus.
(Encounter 2) Demyx was always trying to escape rather than fight. So if he can buy time with his Water Clones then he can pull some kind of escape routine that ends the run. This is because if he wastes too much of Sora's time then he can't make it to the Final Fantasy Characters to help them with the Heartless (They are helpless without a Keyblade Wielder nearby). Also, If Sora is unable to defeat the 1000 Heartless before they get too close to the Radiant Garden centre then they will overwhelm and destroy the town.
(In the Data Battle) He probably crashes the computer by putting too many models on screen at one time for too long, forcing you to restart the fight.
I guess demyx doesn't use 2d textures for his clones to render a lot of them at once.
That makes a lot of sense. Wish we could’ve gotten a unique cutscene for failing the minigame, so the instant game-over doesn’t feel so out-of-place
Think my favorite part of the Final Xemnas fight is how he very quickly identifies Sora as a greater threat, being that he tries to fuck him up way more, but even Riku knows that, since he took two lightsabers to the face just to avoid Sora getting hit once. It's neat
Sora basically gets bullied throughout the whole fight. It’s not until Riku gets hit that Sora unleashes an assault that Xemnas can’t even defend against, which is really nice mid-fight storytelling.
the riku redemption is frickin real
In hindsight, that explains a lot about DDD: Nort’s not gonna admit it, but he’s kinda terrified of this kid and wants him gone NOW. There’s nothing more dread inducing to a chess master who plans for everything, then someone who doesn’t HAVE a plan to foil. He can’t be manipulated into backstabbing, he can’t be goaded into darkness, he can’t be locked out of the loop because he’ll just find his way into someone’s problems anyway to solve them and thus find you, and worst of all, HE JUST WON’T DIE
That's kinda funny, because Sora really does have a tendency to just throw a wrench into everyone's plans. Ansem the Wise even straight up says that his plans fell apart as soon as Sora became an active force when he's sacrificing himself in kh2. @@spindash64
The only time in the game when a party member is canonically inmortal is the one when you loose if they die.
I think Jack isn't actually cursed until the end of the fight, when he gets shot but reveals that he's holding a piece of cursed gold. Like, he sneaks over and snags a piece while the cutscene is starting?
Idk I don't remember the offer offhand, it's been like a year since I last played.
@@SeisoYabai
Jack let himself be cursed before the fight, which is why Barbossa has Pete summon a Heartless to help him out
Still weird that letting Jack get knocked out is a lose-condition for that fight, considering numerous factors
1. Getting knocked out is not equivalent to dying
2. You can just use a potion on a knocked out party member to wake them up
3. And even if you don't they eventually wake up automatically
4. How does Jack getting knocked out benefit Barbossa to the point that Team Classic [as Melody of Memory calls 'em] goes "oh damn we lost"
The only explanation I can entertain is that Barbossa can take the chance from Jack being knocked out to take the medallion he has back and forcing Will to undo the curse
I actually think that it has something to do with intellectual property and shit like that.
Maybe Johnny depp said something in the line of "you can use my character in my film but he can't die during that boss battle" or something
Well, there is a reason - it's because canonically, Barbossa dies after that fight due to an injury sustained while immortal. Taken from that perspective, it makes sense.
It's just really silly outside that context.
Dear god I am not looking forward to that fight
Two years later, you still haven't done the Data Battles.
The obvious reason Mr Smee wasn't a super boss in BBS was because they already slapped mysterious figure in there and didn't want to make the player rage anymore they already were going to.
And then they added the Final Mix superbosses anyway.
Blizzard Lord and Volcano Lord got their titles by buying a square feet of land each in Scotland.
"He's been trying to reach you about your Keyblade's extended warranty"
I love this channel lol
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God my absolute favorite part of Twilight Thorn is the fact that it also eats horrible shit when you both fall from the sky. I also love how Roxas hits the ground so fucking hard he ***bounces*** which is very hard to do for dense objects falling
Hahah body go *Boing!*
Good point, dude takes it like a champ
Roxas should be paralyzed after a fight like that, even if it’s all in his heart.
Honestly Sora slicing a building into a million pieces in a second with ease is really cool, but there is a single thing I rate above it. I really love the Session limit. Something about it is insanely cool to me, just seeing the two of them back-to-back unleashing attacks with names like "XIII Blades" hits the funny parts of my brain that make me go "Wooooaaaahhhh."
Pretty sure a design doc or something said Demyx was channeling a large spell during his water clone segments. Sorta a trade-off skill where he needs to be uninterrupted to complete the long casting time but in return it's guaranteed defeat if he casts it. No idea why they don't actually complete an animation for it or anything. Sure it might have gotten old if you failed multiple times, but as is, yeah it just looks weird for Sora to just be somewhat annoyed on the restart screen.
Also raises the question why he doesn't just quietly cast that spell while you are doing... literally anything else anywhere, but those types of loopholes would leave you without a game.
Oooh interesting. I kinda figured as much but the game never makes it explicitly clear, like you said
They should have done an animation for that- maybe if time runs out, Demyx drops a tidal wave on the arena like Leviathan in FF7
I cant believe Nomura deprived us of Demyx's ultimate move, Zettagyser, to counter the power of Donald and his Zettaflare.
@@TheKeyblader133 that would actually be so sick and I wish the devs did more stuff like that… KH’s magic systems don’t really matter that much imo so why not just start giving characters some crazy spells? Especially water based spells since those are so new to the series, but they had such good implementation into 3
@@joeyjose727 yeah, I wasnt really good at using it but I liked how water had that kinda...attempted utility at the start
I literally just finished replaying KH2 for the first time since the original release, haha. How topical! I’m stuck by myself for the holidays, fighting boredom and a bit of loneliness, so a nice, feature-length RP video is just the ticket.
I felt that man it sucks being alone on the holidays I didn't have much to do either
Jesus loves you
Welcome back to the KH community. I was one of the og ps2 players and replayed the games about 5 years ago and have been playing it since. I didn't know that the community was still thriving since I was a kid, but it's huge and still a thing thats growing.
Great ranking! Points out a lot of the brightest spots in an artistically uneven but always entertaining game. On the Dark Thorn: doesn't it strike anyone else that Dark Thorn is meant to evoke what a Heartless formed from the Beast would resemble, since the Beast is obviously never going to succumb to the Organization in the actual plot?
I was thinking that; he does have those rose thorns encircling its body. Conceptually, at least according to Nomura, Dark Thorn is based on the Ifrit summon as it appears in FFX
@@RegularPat It's a beautiful instance of serendipity in that case!
Ok but no one hass mentioned thiss and it’ss driving me inssane. That iss a loz twilight prinssesss dessign. Literally
Xemnas has one of my favorite combat styles ever. The lightsabers, the spins and flips, the thorns, the barriers and orbs, and of course the lasers and the laser dome, it's just all so stylish.
Just truly over the top. Which I feel was the whole point of the nobodies.
Would definitely love to see a data boss discussion!
Yes, same here!
Yeah, me too.
"wolf bear buffalo monster in a cape"
I caught that
God damn you used the die pun, I thought I was so clever for coming up with the die pun
To your credit you both delivered in rather unique ways, it wasn't exactly the same joke
You have no idea how excited I was when I saw the run time on this video. I've been wanting longer ones forever
I think the implication with the Demyx fight is that if Sora fails to kill the clones in time, Demyx just spawns more of them and Sora can't keep up.
maybe he uses them to unleash some sort of unblockable tide spell that drowns the whole party
What if he just ran-
He probably just runs away pretty standard for him.
That Sora "F*ck off" censor caught me off guard. Your little edits like this are charmingly funny.
I'm trying to find the time it happens.
@@red5158077idk if you found it yet since it’s been two months but it happens at 12:50.
I compared Cerberus's KH1 model with his KH2 model and they are the exact same 3d model. There are three reasons I believe for why Cerberus feels smaller in KH2:
1. Sora is slightly taller now.
2. The camera is further away from the action in KH2 compared to its predecessor. Bosses like Cerberus which previously dominated our field of vision by being so close to the camera are now naturally further away. I believe it's for this reason the game introduced several new bosses that are even bigger than any of KH1's bosses.
3. And this is probably the biggest reason Cerberus feels smaller: Sora's vastly improved agility. I KH1 just getting on top of Cerberus was such a huge challenge, even with abilities such as High Jump and Glide. While in KH2 Sora can easily jump over his body without needing any additional abilities.
this blows my mind. still think he was shrink rayed. it is simply impossible
Comparing Sora's KH1 model to his KH2 model in Dream Drop Distance: he like doubles in height
"Isn't it weird that Hades is Hercules' uncle?"
Not as weird as how, since Triton is the Greek god of the seas and the son of Poseidon, Ariel's father is Hercules' cousin.
God damn that Fuchs with brain and I'm a Greek mythology nerd
The main thing I forget going into these videos is just, how funny you make them. You throw in just little jokes that I never see coming and it just catches me off guard. Just throw some little guys into Xemnas's big building pylons, see what happens.
Also I can't believe you convincingly argued why the Hydra is a more interesting boss fight than Sephiroth and like, you're right. It's. I never considered it beyond Get up on the hydra's back, despite enjoying it. Regular Pat really coming in swinging with unexpected but valid takes
17:27 “Cujo, or Cujaga given the circumstances…”
God-tier joke right there.
With regard to the Pete and Maleficent = Team Rocket thing, I've always wanted there to be a Great Mouse Detective world and for them to pick up Ratigan as their Meowth.
This is a good list. Lingering Will is my favorite fight in the series so I would put him at the top but the bronze is fine. I’m just glad to see Ursula’s Revenge near the top where it belongs even if it’s not a traditional boss. Although, I couldn’t help but notice the omission of the optional superboss battle against Piglet in 100 Acre Woods. That one makes Sephiroth feel like solo Selphie
I don't know if I'm talking out my ass here, but one other thing I've come to love about the Lingering Will is that, when you think about it, he's the closest KH has come to having a Dark Souls boss. Aesthetics-wise, I mean.
Think about it, you travel to this mysterious war-torn wasteland, and there you find a sentient suit of armor, literally powered by a dead (for a given brand of death in the KH universe) man's rage. A walking symbol of the hatred and despair this man felt in his final moments, harkening back to something that happened long, long ago. Time has reduced him to a literal shell of his former self. All that's left is his combat prowess and a hatred that's grown so wild that he's started to mistake anyyone who even passes by for the subject of his rage. And everything about his story (in KH2 at least) is shrouded in implication and mystery.
That all feels very souls like to me.
I feel like darkside, being a giant shadow being with snakes coiled around its head that exists as like a warden in hell (The Kingdom hearts equivalent at least), could also be included.
The moment when Xemnas busts out the laser ball is for me the most hype moment not just in the KH games, not just in gaming but probably in all of media. I died about 20 times because I thought I should just mash triangle, but even so it remains one of the coolest moments.
Or as Xemnas would say: What a satisfying denouement.
From Memory Skyscraper recreating Another Side, Another Story, to chopping up buildings, to chasing a dragon mech created from a world that never was, to fighting the pilot of said dragon mech in space riding the destroyed remnants of the buildings to create an opening in its defenses, to finally fighting side by side your long time rival and best friend in a realm of nothingness in one final fight against Xemnas himself.
Seriously have not experienced a boss rush that is as epic as this one to this day.
@@wiseman46237 KH1 and KH2 have both full circle moments that are so epic and satisfying.
KH1 has you fighting Riku on the island (which he is the toughest there) and you could fight him infinite times if you wanted to. To then fighting him in the top center of this huge castle. Both of you exploring different worlds but on different sides.
KH2 gives you a team up we have been waiting since the first game. Its like Riku caused the first game's boss battle but here he is along side you helping in stopping it.
Wasn't that Marluxia who said that?
There is a moral in the sister cant beat Demyx story.
The moral is that trying is important, not succeeding. You can't expect someone to nail everything, it's about putting the message close to their heart that trying is the important part.
She still tried to beat it and simply couldn't do it - but there was an attempt. Years down the line (if she remembers it at all) she'll definitely be grateful for it. It's a good thing to cheer someone on and put faith into their competence, even if they fail. There is no reason to gatekeep them though when the going gets tough.
Particularly this holds true when you consider it's a story fight, not optional content. Being unable to progress through the story because of an overtuned bossfight shouldn't be the moral of the lesson - it would be understandable if she couldn't beat Lingering Will because that fight in its entirety holds no meaning in the story, it's just a challenge.
Before the number 7 slot I actually thought to myself "So the next boss is gonna have more heads than the Hydra, right?" sarcastically, only to get a big smile on my face when you actually brought it up. Thanks for another great video! I look forward to seeing what the next year holds for you and your content!
I remember finally beating Demyx on my ps2 playthrough as a kid and running around the house CRYING because it was so important. I did get diagnosed with autism later on don't worry :))
So I always interpreted the Lingering Will recognizing Sora and then thinking he's Xehanort as him recognizing his keyblade instead. Then, when he realizes it's not Riku he's talking to, assumes it's Xehanort having stolen another body and goes apeshit.
Every time you have to stop a helpless npc not get killed in a video game, I’m calling it a don’t let Meg be murdered bar
I have no idea what the “My Own Worst Enemy” joke was, but the second time you brought it up was the biggest laugh I got in this video 😳
After all these years, I never knew you could lose the Barbossa fight if Jack dies, that's insane
Definitely something you're unlikely to catch unless playing on Critical/doing a level one run. Barbossa isn't a super hard fight on its own, unless you're bad at the game your party shouldn't have any trouble staying alive if they're keeping up in level.
I love Axel 2. The 13th struggle is SUCH a good track, and Roxas feels so good to play here.
Should probably let you know, since you consistently noted confusion, lore has indicated that Heartless that haven't captured any hearts are called "Non-emblem" Heartless. It's stated that the normal form of Non-Emblem Heartless are often the Shadow enemies you most commonly encounter. However, there are mutations, most notably in the form of the Neo Heartless. So it's possible to encounter powerful Heartless that haven't collected any hearts.
This is why a few of the heartless bosses don't have emblems and don't release hearts when defeated.
this video is funny af. some clever writing in here 🤣
The fuck are you doing here god damn
of all the KH rankings/tier lists I gotta say that yours are always my favorites. Maybe it’s just my appreciation for deadpan humor, but I thoroughly enjoy watching and rewatching these
24:44 "...but it's not everyday you get to team up with a walking, talking mustache clock to violently calm the nerves of this wolf-bear-buffalo monster in a cape." OMG, I love the reference! I still haven't seen the full musical, but that musical number is amazing for sure! 😊 That's a such an awesome reference, and this video is already really funny. Keep up the great work, Pat! I'm looking forward to the rest of this video and others. 😁👌🏼
When I saw the Lingering Will do all of his fancy keyblade morphing, I just saw that and said "I wanna do that!" Which is exactly what they did in KH3! It feels like being able to transform your Keyblade is a mark of great skill in the KH series. Even thought Sora loses all of his abilities, he just bounces right back so it makes sense that he can pick up some new tricks.
I normally am against rating a video you havent watched to completion, but every time I see a new Regular Pat video, I hit it with the frame one thumbs up
As for Hercules being weak to barrels (which I should have commented on the KH1 Boss ranking) , it might be the most loosest reference to the shirt of Nessus. To cut the story down to the important detail; Heracles' wife was worried he found another lover and was tricked by a dying centaur named Nessus into giving Heracles a shirt soaked in a barrel of hydra venom. The shirt stuck and ate away at Heracles' flesh and the pain was so unbearable heracles threw himself into a pyre to burn it off.
1:16:05 what do you think Xemnas’ drink of choice is? I feel like he might be a “red box-wine drunk out of a glass that’s way too expensive and fancy for box-wine” type guy.
Xemnas definitely strikes me as a Vodka martini kind of guy. I think the red wine in the fancy glass is something Xadin would do.
I think you have the wrong time stamp buddy
@@alexandermorgan5958I would argue that would be Marluxia
Pat! Thanks for putting so much time and effort into this video, especially around the holidays! So excited to watch this.
Its finally here! And I would love a video on the data battles of the Organization. They're actually my favorite part about Kingdom Hearts, as well as your different enemies in the game.
I remember Storm Rider being one of the first bosses shown off for the game in an EGM magazine or something and being super hyped to fight it.
Although I wonder if both it and the Shan Yu fight would’ve been improved if they’d done like the manga and made THIS the Clayton + Stealth Sneak equivalent and Shan Yu was riding it around. Make Xigbar responsible so he could actually show up for the first visit, then you could focus more on him the second round
Also, as someone who first played KH2 on release when I was 15 and had been playing games for a decade… the Twilight Thorn fight’s cutscenes were still mind blowing
I remember waiting for KH2 after beating both stories in CoM, so I had that same reaction when I saw Axel, like "YOOOOOOO HE'S BACK! HOLY HECK!"
10:15
"..treated with a bit more gravity"
*shows footage of Dragon Maleficent*
Oh yeah, she certainly gets treated by a lot of players gravities too.
1:09:10 something I literally just noticed when playing through the game yesterday, but he actually does have Demyx’s sitar, not just his water clones. If you look on the ground, it’s buried under what looks like a glass panel in the center of the floor. Luxord’s cards will also shoot out after a while, so he has the weapons of every single organization member fight in this game. I just thought that was neat. :)
Y'know I always headcanoned Roxas's mastery of light as lightSPEED! Considering Reversal and how freaking fast he goes when you play as him in Remind it makes sense to me.
Great video. I, too, have had a story arc.
When I was a kid I got annoyed that my older brother said I couldn't beat Sepiroth, especially since my forms weren't leveled up.... Like... At all. So I sat down and grinded out attempts until I beat Sepiroth with no movement abilities. That's not a brag, it's a regret
I watched this legit all the way through once and I love to watch it again (5ish more times) while I am doing something else or going to sleep. Haha I guess you have a very soothing voice. Your videos are awesome. I cant wait to see your KH2 data battle ranking list.
33:27 is one of the most out of place but funniest bits I’ve seen in any video this week
YEAH and then the reusing of the bit at 1:16:46 had me coughing up a lung
I think the best example of the heartless becoming less intimidating is the first visit to the tower. Literally starts the shadow fight with the cheerful music like here we go again beating these lil guys
I always thought that the Dark thorn was What beasts heartless would have been if xaldin had corrupted his heart enough to make it final. Like how darkside came from Sora at the beginning of KH1, I always imagined that the dark thorn was beasts version.
Fun tip for Xigbar’s ultimate, literally just run in a perfect circle around the arena and nothing will touch you
I died about 10 Times,Then i figured this out And Then beat him First try
it's been great to watch your channel grow over this year, and this video definitely feels like a culmination of 2021 for you. really appreciate the hard work on it around the holidays because PHEW that runtime, but every second was worth it. part of the reason kh2 has such an indelible impact is that final boss battle with xemnas. for all the meh fights sprinkled throughout as you illustrated with the lower rankings, xemnas' last stand has you walking away every time feeling satisfied on both a gameplay and story level in a way i'm not sure the series will ever be able to top with a final boss. i'd love to see them do it, but man. it's a tough act to follow.
personally i probably would've put roxas as number one, but i'll admit that's mostly because i value a boss fight that can make me misty eyed. (on that note, i'm not holding my breath for a days boss ranking but i mean. can number one be anything but xion? her theme alone gets me in my feelings.)
overall, i love watching your videos like this because it's nice to see all these battles and their game design elements broken down and analyzed. i think it can be easy to fly right past a lot of the excellent boss fight details that elevate this series when you play the games more casually, like i do. i've always thought darkthorn was the best heartless boss in kh2, for example, but i don't think i could've explained why. watching this, though, i was nodding along like yes that's exactly it, even though i'd never like...put it into words before.
it really is a mark in the column for kh's game design philosophy that you can enjoy this stuff as a casual player, but also be rewarded for looking deeper and peeling back some of the layers. for whatever can be said about the kudzu plot at work, there's no denying the fact that this is a series that is a lot of fun to discuss. i've been playing these games for literally twenty years and i'm STILL learning new things about them. love that.
i also tend to try and swap around who i support on patreon close to the new year sooooo, a good time to throw my support your way. looking forward to what you have for 2022!
Thanks so much!! It was a big project but I had fun, I'm glad you liked it and that you're still learnin' new stuff about the games like I've been
48:56 i brought my ps3 over to a friends house years ago, and he had 2 single digit age sisters. We were talking turns fighting Larxene's absent silhouette in critical mode. One of his sisters asked if she could try so i said sure. This 9yo ended up fumbling the menu into using master form and proceeded to button mash Larxene to death by pure chance. She knew how to attack and use the menu to heal herself, that was it. She just kept spamming reflect trying to heal and Larxene just happened to go down one hit before she did.
I like how when you destroy those 2 little things on the storm riders back he falls to the ground.
The KH1 boss ranking was how i found your channel so this really lifted my mood considering personal problems are happening rn
ITS 3 AM MAN. I’m gonna watch this in the morning for sure. Also, cool that all the (2) boss rankings have meme thumbnails. 👍
I had never seen nor heard about the Barbossa fight having an extra lose condition with Jack getting knocked out. But like it was said about it happening during the level 1 crit playthrough, I guess I am not too surprised that I have never seen it mentioned before.
Your first boss video is what brought me to you, so this is the perfect Christmas gift for me 🤗
thank you for sticking around
We've come full circle. I randomly got your first boss video in my recommendations after watching some KH stuff and have been subscribed since then. Nice to see a second!
Playing through KH2 again so this recommendation came at a really good time! The commentary is hilarious + accurate and I love it
I really enjoy your writing style. You have a great way of structuring really long thoughts in a way that prevents the listener from getting lost halfway through. Great work Pat
I always viewed the Xemnas arena as a realm b/w the realms of Light and Darkness. Since TWTNW is already not in the Realm of LIght iirc, the Gummi Ship sequence before it comes into question, and if you pay close attention, the Gummi Ship Sequence background and the Background of the Final Xemnas are actually the same but with different colors
I know it's very explicitly stated somewhere, pretty sure it's stated at least once in the game itself, both twilight town and the world that never was are pretty firmly situated in the realm between... which opens up a lot of questions about gummi ships and how they work since they can apparently travel between realms just at will.
I’d just like to echo the comments on how great it is to see your channel grow; I know I’ve had a very fun time watching your videos and live streams over this year. It’s great to see such positive comments from people, and you’re clearly working really hard on your content.
I would also like to secondarily second the people asking for a data boss ranking video - that would be sweet!
thank you for this christmas present pat
awesome video i totally agree with everything you said and you nailed it! Demyx's second fight was actually so traumatizing lol
The fact there isn't a checkpoint after the 2nd Demyx fight is just cruel. The next fights with the FF cast on lv1 Critical are horrifying when pretty much everything oneshots you and you are painfully aware that any random BS from offscreen will send you back to the Demyx hell.
Not cruel but more challenging, similar to many RPG classic games that take you right into the main menu but only an easier version for the series.
@@Ventus2077 That's not how KH is designed though. KH2 is extremely generous with its checkpoints except for this one single spot in the game. I believe it's just a weird quirk with how the checkpoint system works in the game, since you never get control of Sora between Demyx and the next fight. It's not a thing you even notice on a casual playthrough since the fights are easy if you aren't on lv1.
Dance Water Dance will haunt my dreams the boss fight was the biggest roadblock for me (the second fight before the 1000 heartless)
So the KH3 ranking comes in 14 years? 👉👈
Hahaha just took a swig of beer and then you said the Hades masseuse line - spat beer from my mouth and nose zzz. Great video Pat and thanks for another great year - looking forward to 2022
You have Somebodies, Nobodies, Heartless, Unversed, Dream Eaters, Nightmares, etc.
Then you have Regular Pat, who is Sleepless
1. 3:50 Jafer/ 2. 5:00 Pete/ 3. grime reaper 6:00/ 4. prison keeper 7:00/ 5. possess door 8:00/ 6. 9:30 Shan Yu/ 7. 11:10 demyx 1/ 8. hostile program 12:40/ 9. barbasso 13:40/ 10. 15:50 hacarus/ 11. Cerberus 17:20/ 12. 18:20 retro Pete/ 13. 19:40 hades/14. 21:20 ice and fire/ 15. Pete 2 22:40/ 16. 24:00 beasts/17. 25:00 heynes/ 18. 26:20 scar/ 19. mcp and sark 27:50/ 20. 30:30 axel/ 21. 32:00 Pete 3/ 22. 33:50 ground shaker/ 23. 35:10 experiment/ 24. 37:00 Grime reaper 2/ 25. 39:10 luxord/ 26. 41:00 storm rider/ 27. 43:10 sai'x/ 28. 45:10 shadow stalker and dark throne/ 29. 47:00 demyx 2/ 30. 49:30 sal'don/ 31. 51:20 twilight throne/ 32. 54:00 xibaig/ 33. 55:40 Seperoth/ 34. 58:30 hydra/ 35. 1:01:00 oogie/ 36. Xemnas 1:02:50/ 37. 1:04:50 axel 2/ 38. Dragon 1:07:10/ 39. 1:10:50 linger will/ 40. 1:15:20 roxas/ 41. Final boss 1:18:10
I love the thumbnail
44:09 Now every time I see this part in particular of that scene in Hollow Bastion, All I hear clearly is "Thank you so much for the thousand re-tweets" that was gold👌 and the # tag😂.
That line worked so well with his expressions 😂.
Bro I’ve been watching your videos! Keep it up 💪🏻
Great ep. Been waiting for this for a while. Would happily accept Data Org ranking
You made the right choice in picky Xemnas as the your favorite fight in KH2. The final mash triangle sess of the fight is so damn cool and I love how Dream Drop Distance worked it into its opening cinematic,also Dream Drops opening is my favorite.
Now all we need is you to rank every boss in the entire series! C'moon, four hour long video let's gooooo
I'm a sucker for Kingdom Hearts rankings so an absent silhouette/data battle ranking would be fun.
Something of note about the High Climb/Needle Dive RC that further emphasizes your point about being rewarded for thinking outside the box, is that you have to disable Sark normally at least once before he starts putting up that wall. If you try to bait him into doing it before you've knocked him out once, he'll just throw his massive identity disc at you and you have to jump over it.
Y'know, I thought I was losing my mind because I was trying to get the footage for it and he refused to do it until I knocked him out
which makes the whole thing even more obscure
@@RegularPat Y'know, thinking about it some more, it's probably less obscure than you or I were first thinking. First time players who don't know how the fight works, once they've used the Delete reaction command once, are probably going to chase down that gap they made in the MCP's barrier, which will likely put Sora a considerable distance from Sark when he's restored. Those new players might stop paying attention to Sark after knocking him out, and if so they probably won't realize that the MCP's line 'I will repair your data' was addressing Sark. Adding to that, if you're far enough away you won't hear the responding 'Thank you, sir'.
Considering all the MCP's other in-battle dialogue are taunts toward Sora, new players might hear 'I will repair your data' and think it's more of the MCP's 'programs have advanced beyond users' rhetoric; sort of a twisted, psychopathic 'let me help you' kinda taunt. But even without it, just the fact that new players are probably going to chase down the hole they made, it's fairly likely they're going to trigger the wall by accident. It seems more like a shortcut that's designed to be run into and discover by chance. Heck, the closest thing I've ever seen to it being obscure was when I saw a first time player trigger the wall, and turn around and run back to hit Sark some more.
When you said Cerberus seems smaller, I thought about the different camera field of view in KH2 making it look smaller.
48:35 When looking closer with a slowdown, he might have been slapping him.
Michael can actually show up during the first Armored Xemnas fight to save you if you die, so he does get implemented. Kairi’s the only one who misses out.
I adore the reaction commands to the Dark Thorn and Stormrider! It feels straight out of Devil May Cry and any other character action game! Maybe it could take another year until we get a KH3 Boss Ranking? Probably not...
It's 10AM in Europe, perfect way to start the day, Merry Christmas Pat !
The Other Promise is easily one of my video game scores of all time. Makes every Roxas appearance all the more epic.
KH2 was my first KH game somehow as a kid and I was in Love with his character design, I even had my fingers wrapped in the black and white tape just like his. Roxas Ftw!
Hello from 2023! Rewatching all of Pat’s stuff to get me into the mood for my Disney trip in October!
4:00 He’s also in Recoded, naturally, tho storywise it was nice having Genie as mission control throughout that whole shebang. Still bare bones tho
12:30 maybe they pool together and drown Sora or something? I dunno, they could have done something here to make it more intense
53:00 maybe I’m just weird, but I LIKE having QTE type segments here and there in games. There are plenty of very bad examples, but I feel like KH2 is one of the better examples of this, simply because it also functions as a minor break: these battles have a LOT going on, and your fingers and brain are going to get tired eventually in the tougher fights. Reaction Commands not only give a way to characterize combat interactions between Sora/Roxas and the bosses, but because you’re only concerned with a few buttons in these segments at most, and the window to press them is reasonably long, you have a chance to “recharge” your attention and focus. I’ve been playing Metal Gear Rising lately, and the QTEs in that game serve a similar purpose: it’s not _just_ about cinematics, but also allows for interactions that would be more difficult to apply in normal gameplay, like running up a levitating obelisk to reach someone.
Long story short, it lets the gameplay slow down without becoming boring, which is part of what makes these segments feel so awesome: they are, as the name implies, reactions that make use of the situation or environment.
Then again, I’m also a weirdo who enjoys the occasional button mash to simulate physical exertion. Not a fan of “waggle mashes” where the game expects you to flick your control stick back and forth tho.
1:00:00 also, hell yeah, imagine just calling them in at one point to fire broadsides at ship you’re standing on. Literally sinking the ship to kill the captain