THE MYSTERY ON THE RIVER MERSEY - MAGGIE'S CAVES
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Maggies caves alledegy date back to around 1670! Thought to have been dug out by workers from the local corn mill tunnels or by the river wideners, both of whom had the tools and experience to construct these caves... It is understood that people of that era actually lived there for a number of years.
Around 1851, the caves were used as a distillery for purifying gas tar to produce naphtha. Around the time of the construction of the Stockport Viaduct it was apparently home to many of the very poorly paid workers who built the impressive structure.
Also a brothel, distillery and refuge to the homeless whom now seem to occupy the area... It was reported that a family of 4 was sadly living down in 2011.
But the origin and purpose of these mysterious caves are still unknown to this day! Throughout the entirety of the underground lair it is quite clear to see that over each century it has been used as a multipurpose base for many thing's... from the pick marks on the walls of the men who caved the place out over 350 year ago to the graffiti on the walls from the modern day...this place still remains Stockport's biggest mystery !
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brilliant again mate i grew up in that area and remember as kids 50 years ago going down there there was a row of terraced houses along the top maybe the shaft your dad found was a drainage hatch letting the water go strait into the Mersey who knows like you said mate brought back some memories this one outstanding vid loved it .
Hi Martin remember me the muffin man lol hope your well
Nice one, that's the best Maggies video I've seen. Always fancied spending a night down there with a fire and a bottle of grog.
My home town.
I lived in Stockport for nearly 10 years when I moved out of tameside.. I never knew about this place. My thoughts are it was used for storage & moving stuff along the river, before that possibly dwellings of some kind. Fascinating! Funny too as the other guy in the video I started watching his content as it was recommended from me watching your content, great content once again!
Hello from the USA! Absolutely love the work you put into your videos! Been watching for a while and will continue. Love the history you seek out and share with us. This was a neat place. Keep up the great work you do showing history in such a unique way. Can’t wait for the next one! Stay safe! 😊
Yay! Kelli from USA🇺🇸 ! Glad to hear you enjoyed it and thanks so much for the support! Take care 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 ❤️
It was great to be back in stockports sandstone again! What a mad place with such a varied history, sad to see it being used for unsavoury things 😞
Great work on the video 💥 and thanks again for the invite 😁💯👍
Thanks a lot Danny, it was great a top day and great to explore with you both! hopefully we can do it again soon :)
Very interesting indeed!! once again brilliantly done, I love history. Keep up the good work.👍👍
Thank you so much 🌟🙏🏼
Fascinating, i loved it, you will definitely have to go back there if find out more about it Anthony, thanks you 👍
Absolutely Nailed it again with this one! How mysterious these caves are.
The subjects that you choose & the way you edit them is outstanding. They must take you an age to put together. 👍👍👍👍
Thanks so much! yeah they are very time consuming but worth it in the end when people like yourself appreciate the video! Thanks so much for the support!!!
Couldn't have put it any better myself!
Stunning pal you always capture the feeling of a place in your vlogs makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Another cracking video and nice to see your dad out with you. Keep it up 👌👍
Loved this one. And was wonderful to see the whole gang with you.
Thanks so much, yeah it was great to get out with the lads! it's always good to swap info with them. Thanks so much for watching, I really do appreciate the support :)
Excellent DM…interesting place which probably won’t give up its secrets..could have even been sacrifices down there at some point in history..Thanks for showing round these mysterious caves..keep the vids coming 🐒🐒
You are most probably right considering just how old it was. Thanks for coming and until the next one 😉 👍🏼
I grew up on the estate over the road from this place. I've played and explored this place. 1670 earliest apparent known first resort. Utilised as u stated. Common knowledge as what u stated earlier in your video. Thanks for sharing. I'm sharing to my Facebook page. I love stockport
Thank you so much for taking the time out to watch this video Stephen! I really do appreciate it & also for commenting on what you think it’s purpose was. It’s always great to hear. I plan on doing more filming in Stockport soon. Hope you enjoy what’s in store. Take care and thanks once again 👍🏼
Absolutely spectacular , cracking work bud...
Thanks a lot mate! we will have to meet up again soon!
Quality video lad didn't see this one uploaded been away revising but keep them coming pal really enjoy them.
Thanks a lot Curtis, much appreciated! Good luck with the revision! I’ve got plenty lined up over the next few weeks/months 👍🏼
@@daftmonkey7296 look forward to it pal
Lovely video as always I’m not sure how I missed this one I must have been away but caught up now . Nice to see the others there too and a bit of larking ! Ridged pottery was indeed for jam or marmalade for Victorian’s
No worries, thanks for checking out the video! Oooh really I didn’t know that, I found so much of that ridged pottery too. I’m dropping my latest video this week which involved me doing a mudlark… very poorly 🙈😂
I also gave you a shoutout too as some of my subs might be interested in checking out your channel 🙌🏼
@@daftmonkey7296 ooo thanks very much . Just gives you something else to add to your history , actual physical history . I’m sure your first lark was fine lol be careful it’s addictive
@@sarahsallotmentjourney no worries,, haha yeah I definitely agree with you there. History in your hands can be very addictive 🙌🏼💯
New Subscriber here....Paul from Moston....These videos are brilliant....I metal detect as a hobby so the history of land and what lies underneath resonates with me...
Thank you so much Paul! I really do appreciate that. I love a bit of metal detecting! It’s incredible how much history is underneath our very feet. Thanks once again mate and take care 👍🏼
Thanks for that DM. So much history in the UK, so many stories to discover. Looked like a 'Day Out' for TH-camrs at one point...but all good. Danny and Martin are on my watch list. BTW, I had a lovely cuppa while watching but discovered they don't make packets of gingernuts as big as they used to...could just be me of course! Great viewing and great story telling. I'm already looking forward to your next one (I think I might try Jammie Dodgers next time!) Cheers!
Good video that interesting how people lived in them days probly people that had no where to live the poor ones so they would find a cave like that & lived in it good to see Martin & co 👍
Cheers Thomas, it must have been truly terrible back in the day for people to live down their. thanks for watching and ill see you in the next one. take care buddy!
@@daftmonkey7296 thanks m8
Legend vid as always Ant all with the beer sweats hahaha, only found out about that place recently ,thought it would attract a few dodgy characters , can't wait for your next vlog ,it's criminal how you don't have more views
Thank you so much Simon, that means a lot mate. Really glad you enjoyed the video, there’s plenty more to come soon pal 😉 🔥👍🏼
A fascinating history, full of intrigue as to the cave system's original purpose. I really appreciate your insight into what the cave's original purpose may have been. Another unsolved mystery from the past...... Had my attention from beginning to end. Take care.
I’m so glad you enjoyed the video and sorry for the delayed response shire. That place really is a mystery and the more I learn about it the bigger the
Mystery becomes 👀
Another top video and what an amazing location yet again!! So much history and as for that river bank, give me an hour or two and I'd be like a pig in muck rummaging over it 😅
Afternoon Ant. The hardest part of my afternoon viewing of a Daft Monkey video is deciding which one to watch lol. So today is this one. The caves are certainly a piece of art and the walls contain lots of history. Maybe they were built as containers for cargo for boats travelling along the River Mersey if they ever did of course. The piece of pottery you found looked like a shard of a jam pot that I've seen Mudlarkers find on dumps and foreshores from the era before. Your filming and editing is wonderful. Keep filming Ant coz I'm loving your videos. Have you seen the crank caves near Liverpool?
Thank you Gaynor! Yeah there’s plenty of pottery around for mudlarkers that’s for sure. They could have quite possibly been for cargo. It would make sense with it being right on the river too. No, I’ve never been to crank caves but it’s on the list. Thanks once again Gaynor 🐒🌟
Great video Anthony.. History is so special, don't you wish walls could talk. I just uploaded a local shipwreck. touching History is incredible.
By the way, "sweetin' cobs". That's something you'll only hear in our part of the world 😁.
Keep up the great work pal 👍
@@daftmonkey7296 absolutely bang on about it being amazing when you can actually touch it. Have a great weekend mate 👍
@@micksmusicchannel you too mate! 👍🏼
There was a guy from some foreign country a good few year back who was sleeping rough in there for some time...it was either the Stockport express or the M.E.N that did a story about rough sleepers in there and he was featured in the article...a long story short his mum back at home in his own country seen the article and had no idea her son was sleeping rough in a cave in Stockport...she reached out and if I remember correctly they were reunited.
OMG it's too amazing
This is awesome work Mr Monkey 🤩❤️🙏🏽🔥🙌🏼
Interesting place. A real pity there isn’t any more information about it. Given it’s age, and no doubt being a well known local feature, you’d have thought it would have been mentioned in books, newspapers, etc.
Cheers Phil. Yeah the history is a little sketchy, but I think that's down to the age of the places. Such a shame because I know there's probably a lot more history involved! take care mate and thanks once again :)
Loved that last scene wi 'young Jack'.
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What an amazing place very mysterious, Its near the river which could mean either they needed water for what they were making or maybe was being transported on the river. Just an idea. Brilliant investigation.
Brilliant video as always Ant. Keep them coming. xxxx
Just a hint though. Maybe you should invest in a hard hat, for explores like this...lol...xxx
Haha! Thanks a lot ! Yep! Hard hat is a bloody must😂😂😂
Love watching your vids never disappointed. Excellent watch, great camera work and, affects Thankyou👌🙂
You never disappoint mate yet another great video and a great to see you with Martin and Dave your Dad and Danny. Really hope the channel grows huge as you deserve it for all the effort and commitment you put into yous work
Nice one mate👍🏻
10 pints as well 🤣🤣
As a local this is fascinating, brilliant content, you should be on a Million subs, fantastic 👍
Thanks so much mate, that’s really kind of you 👍🏼🌟🍺
Me and my mate went yesterday and I noticed some caves across the river so he did some research and found this video
Glad you found it mate 👍🏼
Fascinating video mate, very impressive vlog loved it
THANKS ,
Hi daft monkey, really enjoyed your video, I had never heard of Maggie's caves before and it looks really interesting. We are so lucky to have so many great places to explore that are very close to us in this part of the country. Great shots and photography. Thanks so much for sharing Anthony 🔴🟡🟢❣
Thanks so much Ruth and YAY! I can finally message you back ! haha!!! I think in many ways we have only scratched the surface. It rich and deep and its waiting to be unearthed! thanks once again ruth and take care :)
Nice
Cheers mate 👍🏼
When I was young by the Dingle, there was an area called The Cast iron shore, and there was a wreck on the shore. Is there anything of that remaining now?
over the road near the audi garage used to be an entrance to a bigger set of caves and i mean big but its been collapsed in by the council also used to be an entrance behind the billboard opp the olde woolpack pub
Wow, I didn’t know that Chris. Thanks for commenting. Any ideas what they were used for ?
@@daftmonkey7296 yeah air raid shelters still got bunk beds in and toilets a lot of it was trashed by us kids playing in there in the 70s we didnt appreciate the history then but there must be an entrance somewhere that is accesible
Quality yet again, I think you're right about them dropping stuff down to be shipped down river.
Thanks a lot Leon. Yeah i think it’s pretty evident they used it sort maybe going up or down river with goods. Take care mate 👍🏼
Grew up on the council estate close by we used go down here alot as kids scive off school etc....i know very little history of the place probaby as much as stated in the video.... however its probable that what you see is what you get without any further tunnels......if there was it woukd have been catalogued in depth during world war 2 ....as the air raid shelters is a stones throw away down hill towards stockport there has been a huge rock fall roughly halfway in maggies caves.....its seriously unsafe inside used to be dry all year round now the sandstone rock is becoming saturated
intresting place . ive been a few times . not sure if know the brinksway airraid shelter is littery over the road. ive been in there afew times 2 . and i belive that at least one of them pips was used for the toilets inthe airraid shelter . might be wrong but i goes that direction and ive seen similar stuff in man holes in the airraid shelter its self .??? thou there was no water flowing so not sure if the other pip is just drainage or a cunvetted sping???
nice to c martin in one of ur vids been watching him 4 awhile now and have even took him on a few little explores around town on the kayaks .
Yeah that’s the one mate, like you said there’s a lot of tunnels around that area and I’m sure there’s plenty more yet to be discovered. Thanks so much for watching Kevin, it really does mean a lot 🌟
I Love Your Gorgeous Accent!
That would definitely have been my playground if I was a kid. We played in definitely NOT suitable places for kids :-D
Another great video, thank you!
Haha! You and me both Martin! And thanks for checking out the video mate, I really does mean a lot 💯😁🙌🏼
I'd heard that a homeless man was living there a few decades ago, and he used to visit the Bow Garratt regularly. The regulars hadn't seen him for quite a few days so went down to see if he was still there and OK.............................they they found his body.
Wow! That’s shocking! Poor man
Absolutely brilliant, fascinating history that we inherit in to. You have to look deep into the heart of it to unlock its secrets. Thanks @daftmonkey
Thanks so much for the kind words! I’m glad you enjoyed it. You are spot on with what you said too! Hidden secrets everywhere. Take care mate 🙌🏼
I've just discovered your channel mate and I've watched all your videos, I love this shit! I live in Leeds myself and we have a fascinating history also. You should check it out.
Keep up the good work pal 🙉
@@wiseguy8696 thank you so much mate! I am so glad that you’ve found the Channel and your enjoying content! I’ve got loads more lined up very soon and I cant wait to revive some of the history!
Leeds is somewhere I am definitely looking at! Like you said the history is amazing around there🙌🏼 thanks once again mate and take care 👍🏼
Odd caverns
Perhaps at one time a through way for villagers , farmers, peasants in the area to carry their goods to a raft on the mersey. Instead of climbing hill and dale with your goods on your back to get to the fair??? Poor man's road type thing? ( short cut) .
The different tunnels may have even been used for different products during fair/ seller market time...like the ladies with kidney pies pasties and preserves wouldn't want to be shuffled by the farmers livestock making their way down to a raft or having to wait on one. There'll be no pig poop on "Old Nannie Annie'sFamous Cottage Pasties& Pies" !!! and Mother Murtle better tell young Jack to put those market geese in a basket next time or we'll be cooking our Christmas goose well before the end of harvest!!! Exciting crowded chaos making your way along the tunnels, pushing being jostled, waiting your turn with your wears on your back. Being first to jump on the returning raft and be on your way to fair stalls and festivities
.....??? To me this is more exciting than boring old hat sacrifices... Chaos Living the dream 16th century style!🤩🇨🇦❤
Why not get to the local pub and have a few beers with the old timers .😊
Pully sytem👍bang on. Never put a fire near sand stone. Copper ore will cause explosiins😂
Bertrand russel at the end was it??
Great video lad u have a great thirst for knowledge and a great respect of the past. Im a fan.... Thanks for the shout out. There are more possible caves on that side heading towards the green bridge tho i havent had the time to explore. Personally i think originally it was a natuaral cave widened for the purpose of securing livestock b4 transfer to market. Hemp rope manufacture was big in the region during late Elizabethan era for the british navy and its colonial expansion, it was possible it was used to make rope and into other things.Good rope, bad dope(sadly stockport still has this reputation ) 🤣. The long cave n shaft look like rope manufacturing. Long room to twist fibers, shaft to coil maybe. U never make a fire in a sandstone cave, dries it n risks collapse. Also explosive due to copper ore. Top man
@@johnfreney3819 I tip my hat you to mate you really do know your history and the way life was back then! the knowledge you possess is nothing short of amazing! thanks for the support and information. You bulked the video up into what it is. cheers :)
Re the manufacture of rope. Hemp shaw lane is just up the road offerton way
Thanks DM.
I love my time team and love historical topography/geological topography. Im a lover of my environment, past n present. A romantic like yourself. The past is alive thanks to u n your crew. Excellent work
Ps
The pub above the caves(mow flats) was the Bow Garret.
Garret means watchtower
Bow is self evident.
Could the caves have an older purpose as a lookout ont the river against shallow bottomed boats? As the vikings could n would carry their boats, did these caves provide defense n view??
Not saying they that old but tradation has a way of lingering on in the local culture.
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It was a furnace for the potters
Was it mate, I can actually see that now you’ve mentioned it
@@daftmonkey7296 yeah Anthony. The sandstone wouldn’t crack under intense heat. It would of also been like a warehouse to store the pottery after it had been made. Also, been cutout beside the River Mersey was ideal to load boats with the wares they made
@@petea1918 i have canoed that stretch of river, nowhere deep enough in most places for boats.
Plus sandstone is very temperemantal around fire. Hence why firebrick have been used in kilns and furnaces for centuries circa 1650
@@johnfreney3819 Sandstone is non-combustible and thus resistant to fire, making it a preferred option for building and construction. Due to its natural density, fire takes longer to burn through sandstone blocks, meaning any homes experiencing a fire will have added time.
Brinksway Caves
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brinksway_Caves