I took several classes from Matt Draper at Utah Valley University. He was my favorite professor. A man of great empathy and compassion. I have the highest regard for this wonderful teacher. God bless you, Matt! ❤️
I've also been his student and now his friend. His capacity for love and resilience in the face of adversity is awe inspiring. The world is a better place with him in it.
His entire being was on display for us. I have never felt so much more than I did today. Your story was infinitely felt and so impactful. Thank you, Mark, for choosing this man's story. ❤
What a brilliant orator and storyteller. He uses words to paint scenes in a way that invites the listener to feel his pain, joy, and everything in between.
@@jbkg5898 Just because he's Mormon doesn't mean his pain isn't real. Just because he knows his way around the English language better than the average joe doesn't mean his story is less real than yours. I'm sorry you live such an uncolored life that you feel it necessary to make others as such.
WOW "Therapy is not about curing a diagnosed mental illness. Instead, it is how to love, relate, and help others cope in the face of what a broken world gives them." (I paraphrased a bit) Chills, thank you for sharing.
I agree. This is often true. I am a grieving parent. I cannot be fixed. I don’t want to be fixed. I just need my therapist to listen to me and then reframe my thinking so perhaps it’s a bit more logical. For a while. I just need her to sit with me in my pain. This episode of SWU was and will continue to be the apex of this channel.
This is one of the most profound interviews I have heard on this channel. The image of God not being on the throne at the top of the mountain, but beside people saying “I know this hurts. Let me know when you want me to help you” (I’m paraphrasing) is so powerful. It reminds me of Psalm 23, that when we walk through the darkest valley, God is with us. His rod and staff comfort us.
I don't believe in god at all but I can 100% get behind what you wrote. In end it doesn't matter. As long as we share compassion and love and undertanding and acceptance we can happily live together on earth :)
@@rumbatumblajambomambo6241. Wow, l am blown away by those that cannot see very clearly that their IS a Creator. Study cosmology, biology, look at the natural world ALL around you and tell me this is ALL random! The ruling psychopaths have done a number on humanity and our objective reality…it’s called mind CONtrol and you are brainwashed. May the Creator bliss you out of your grand delusions!
Such an eloquent, intelligent, articulate, educated, and passionate storyteller. His delivery was profound! It was like listening to an audiobook. Amazing! Lots of powerful messages to our society. I'm sorry for his loss and pain, but he has persevered.
From one Utahn to another and from another human who also lost faith in the magic, your story hit me profoundly. You told your story so exquisitely and I could feel the pain in your word. This is one of the best interviews I have yet to see.
As an avid Tolkien reader, man of faith, and love for people and specifically those that can articulate their story so incredibly captivating yet succinct… all I can say is… Wow.
I had to bury a 2 yr old son in 1987 and cremate a 41 yr old daughter in 2020. My culture is Choctaw. We are story tellers. If we were not telling our family or personal stories we were reading books. My fav part of pow wows as a child was the story telling circles and Dancing. When I grew older I told stories in my dancing and my art. Each time my children died I found ways to express these new chapters of my story, to set them down in expression. You are a most fantastic story teller. I could listen to you for hours. My heart goes out to you …
My great grandsons born two months early on my deceased daughter’s (her daughters twins) birthday in May on the 13th 2024 their names are Asaiah and Amaziah. Home now and healthy. This is amazing in itself but three years ago 6 months after my daughter died her first grand child was born ON HER BIRTHDAY May 13th 2021 a grandson (her son’s son) his is is Xairo. Miracles. What else could three babies in three years born on their young deceased grandma’s birthday?
The son of my deceased daughter’s who had her first grand child was born with his heart backwards and the valves placed wrong. At 7 days old he had open heart surgery. He lived. My little brother was born with a teratoma. We didn’t know until it was discovered he had kidney cancer and next to it in the area where there should of been a healthy kidney was the teratoma tumor. He couldn’t have the cancerous kidney removed safely. So they flew to another state and had surgery to remove the cancer from his kidney. It was successful. It has not returned. When I was in my mid 30’s they found what they said was a fatty tumor in my back but they removed it they found basal cell cancer cells in it and went back in and cut out more to give me clean edges around the tumor area. They also found basal cell skin cancer on my nose. They said it was caught very early … I am from the San Fransisco Bay Area and Stanford did those surgeries. U.C San Francisco did my grandson’s heart surgery l, the famous medical examiner who had a movie made about him (with Will Smith) who discovered the connection with brain damage and football players he did my daughter’s 2nd autopsy after strangers and family and friends donated to a go fund me account so we could pay him and transport my daughter’s body to the Central Valley. That autopsy gave the cause of why we lost her. She was another victim of one of the pandemics that has hit our world. My son drowned do to a bad baby sitter when I was 27..This is a convoluted telling of part of my walk with loss and losing. My faith is not Christian or Muslim or any well known organized religion. I have had people say similar things to me about the loss of my kids, my husband, my mom etc. big hugs
I’m not religious but what he is saying about grief is the realest thing I’ve ever heard. I lost my daughter in 2022 and I still get crippled with grief almost daily. I also loved how beautifully he said “I don’t want you to imagine this” because I used to get mad when people said “omg I can’t imagine” when in all facts this is my reality. But he’s right. We shouldn’t HAVE to imagine it. It’s unnatural to lose your child. I’m so very sorry for his loss and the family’s.
I'm sorry you lost your daughter. I am raising my 12 year old son on my own after losing my wife a little over two years ago from a pulmonary embolism. You are very strong, because I don't think I could live if I lost my son.
@@gdash4187 so sorry about your wife. That’s a terrible way to lose her. Losing my daughter killed a huge part of me. I’d like to go on this channel and tell my story one day.
"I may have lost my faith in magic. I may have lost faith in the way my profession does things but I have not lost my faith in hope. I have not lost faith in love. So to all of you out there for whom the magic did not work, for those of you who have lost loved ones, I get it. And there are so many of us out there. You know, Hemmingway wrote in 'Farewell to Arms', "For whom the world does not kill, it breaks" and it breaks the very lovely, the very kind, and the very capable. One thing you will find when you hold to the faith, in kindness & love, is that your heart will be cracked so wide that others can walk in and find shelter there. May we all have broken hearts that we may provide shelter for one another." Profound.
That’s the most amazing story you’ve recorded yet. What a remarkable man. His description of grief, especially the loss of a child, is like non I have ever heard.
I'm so lucky to know this man and his family since 2008. It's all true. He's a blessing to all who know him. He's comforted me because of his deep grief and compassion. So much love to you and Miriam and the Diamond Princess and the Goblin King. ❤️ I'm in awe of you and you have my loyalty forever.
Wowza! Such strong words “The world that we have given them is fractured. So how do we care for people in a fractured world because the world has a way of fracturing us.”
It's a rarity that I'm without words to describe how something impacted me. I'm simply without words and left sitting grateful that I had the opportunity to hear this incredible mans experience and views.
This is the most profound interview and telling I have ever encountered. Thank you, Matthew and Mark. I love you Matthew. And will always carry the life lesson you have gifted me with today. I am grateful for your ability to relive this trial. And will remain diligent, in my love for all things living, forever and ever, Amen.
This is my absolute favorite interview I’ve ever watched on any platform. Amazing. I hope his family finds as much peace and comfort that can be allowed in the circumstances.
@@anncarter1663yes, exactly! Brilliant and compelling. Many other of these "interviews" are not really interviews. Mark is not an interviewer but a gifted photographer who has the time, energy, courage and interest in helping folks share their stories.
This man speaks so eloquently. It is not his grief that intrigues me. On the contrary, it is his words. How he chooses to use them that grabbed my attention. Like many of the people who share their stories on this platform, I find them comforting. I hope this man finds it therapeutic in telling his story. It's a very compelling one. May it help him, the way it helps me. I admire his strength and courage in reliving this most difficult experience. My friend, you and your family are in my prayers. Consider writing a book. It would serve you well. Many blessings.
Mark, wow this was an amazing interview. I could sit and listen to this man all day every day he has a eloquent way of telling a story. Heartbreaking and felt his pain but glad to hear he stood in his faith. Much love and many blessings to Matthew , his family and all who are here
It does sound like a nice quote huh? What I get from what he said, is what a lot of people are saying nowadays; that they are gods and worship yourself because you are god. That's where many people are going wrong in this world, the created being worshipping itself instead of worshipping and glorifying the one who created them.
@@labyrinthoflies4438 and abandoned them or put them through trials they did not deserve. That is exactly why we need one another. You really did not understand what Matthew said. Not one bit.
Stunning interview!!! I, too, am in crisis with a child - 6 years of crisis. I have completely lost my (old) faith. But faith is a shapeshifter. It morphs into something else when you least expect it. This was the bare truth that he discovered as well. I will never forget this guy.
That is so true! My faith shifted to be more pure! Less religious! More loving! ❤ I am so sorry that you are in crisis! Hoping and praying that you and the child can find peace!
Jotham was incredibly lucky to have you as his father . He is still with you because the soul never dies . Thank you for sharing your story of utter heartbreak and bravery . Sending love and light to your family 💕🌸.
I'm not trying to be confrontational at all, and I wish men could. Every time I have been emotional or vulnerable with a woman I was in a relationship with, they have thrown it back in my face any arguments that happened. After it happening three times since my younger days, I've learned to keep it internalized.
@@gdash4187 the reason "men don't cry" was passed on generation to generation is because it actually harms our reproductive capacity (it is unattractive to women)
Losing a child. No words. Just devastating. Came close with my granddaughter. And still medically fragile. Your heart hurts. Tough stuff. Thank you for telling your story and pouring out your guts. So much pain. Broken heart open to shelter others. Beautiful.
What stood out to me the most was that even though Jotham was going through so much, he had so much love in his heart...so much faith... that his last communication was a prayer. He believed. I am inspired by his heart. And God did heal him. Not in the way that we all want. But, He gave him everlasting life with no sorrow, no pain, no disappointment. Matthew, you and your beautiful family will be with Jotham again one day. And what a beautiful day that will be.
An absolute incredible interview that sent me into an emotional spiral! What a great speaker with a philosophy born of pain, perception, faith and growth. Very impressed!
Thank you for sharing this incredibly important and difficult story. I lost my 24 year old son. He wasn’t able to speak but we could read each others thoughts. On the day he was diagnosed with renal failure I felt the tiredness in his eyes, his body and his beautiful soul. We stayed by his side and like your family helped comfort him in his final few days. I am so thankful to have heard your story. “Sinking into the crashing waves” resonated with me beyond words. Wishing you peace and love.
I worked in a children’s cancer clinic for many years. I was completely captivated by the story of his grief. His articulation of grief as a parent was perfection. It was a job I have held in my heart and miss every single day. Everything else pales in comparison. We loved and fought for them all. Most of them made it or I couldn’t have done it. Healthy coping mechanisms are a necessity. I bet his son’s journey touched many lives of his caregivers too.
This man is an astounding storyteller. It must have been really wonderful for you to have been able to relax and just let his spirit flow so beautifully and profoundly. Thank you for finding this man and giving him such a perfect forum to share his truth.
I took a class from Matt Draper at UVU and it was honestly my favorite (and hardest) class from my entire undergrad degree. I never knew this part of his story. Jotham sounds like he was an amazing person. I hope you guys will get to be together again. Thank you for the light and compassion that you bring into this world. We need more people like you, Matt.
Powerful testimony Thankyou for explaining God so perfectly. My heart was also broken and I now have a spring of compassion and love. Thankyou sir you moved me to tears. You have the gift of a healer ❤
Dear Matthew I do not know if you will ever see this message but I would really like to express my sorrow for your loss and would like to express my gratitude for sharing such an intimate experience in your life in such a heartfelt, candid and incredibly eloquent and articulate way. I was so moved by your words and just sobbed with you final statement " May we all have broken hearts that we may provide shelter for one another " That phrase touched something very deep within me. I wish you and your family much love and healing across the miles.
I resonate so deeply with this eloquent man’s story. All the levels. The belief in the “magic”. The desperation of soul to end the suffering of your innocent child and the breaking open of your heart that others might find shelter there. Brother, I hope I meet you one day. In the crucible of affliction comes life’s grandest epiphanies. My son passed at age 9 after nothing could be found to save him from the seizures that stole him from us.
This man is so incredibly inspirational. Last July I lost my mom. The grief I’ve suffered is immense. To suffer grief is to love unconditional love. That is what I’ve been told. I have struggled so much in the last year. So many times during this interview I wished I could have hugged him.
Thank you, Matthew, for baring your soul here, and for showing us-all The Way forward-especially those of us who have lost a child. This comes at a particularly-important time, as it was three years, last week (July 13), that we lost our son, Jordan, in a swimming accident. In the time since, I thought it was impossible to articulate the “11” level of pain, and didn’t even have a label to put on it, but now, I do. THANK YOU! Hundreds of thousands, or more, will hear your testimony, and will now be able to understand. Much love to you and your family, sir.
Words cannot adequately express my gratitude for your talk Matthew. I cried for your son Jotham and my father, whose death broke the magic in my world. Thank you for your time and ability to put this pain in words.
Many times I truly believe God has forgotten me and my oldest son. But then something reminds me HE is with me. The Lord is with this man and his family. I pray you’re suffering lessens and never stop speaking of your beautiful boy 🙏🏽❤️
Mark, each time I’ve think I’ve seen the best interview on the channel you put out something that tops it. Thank you for letting Matthew share his story and his pain.
This was so very heavy. What a wonderful story teller. When he said his dad was a wonderful story teller I thought to myself that his dad passed that wonderful trait down to him. I can only imagine being one of his children listening to his stories & insight. Captivated the entire time with his big presence & profound love of language. All while holding space and sharing his warmth, heartbreak & kindness! You sir have made me stop today to take a deep breath & look around to be grateful for all that I love. Thank you for being here & sharing your magic 🫶🏼
"When you hold to the faith in kindness and love, your heart will be cracked so wide that others can walk in and find shelter there" This statement was extremely profound to me. Sending love to all the broken hearts caused by grief of a loved one❤️❤️❤️
This is one of your best interviews. This man is amazing. I could listen to him for hours. Amazing speaker and the way he describes his grief is gut wrenching. I am so sorry for your loss and Thank you for sharing your story.
I wish life was fair and your son would be able to live. I’m sorry for your loss. I’m struggling so much with my situation that your words have a great impact to help me try to understand it. Thank you for sharing. I hope to hear more from you.
My son passed away 4 yrs ago and I lost all faith when our prayers for him to recover went unanswered. I still struggle with my anger at god for letting my son be killed. Losing a child is a heartbreak that never heals.
As a non religious person I could never understand how people can have an unrelenting faith in god when kids are dying or suffering. Thank you for sharing x
My heart breaks for you ❤ Like you I struggled with my anger towards my Christian concept of god. It’s only when I realized that concept of god did not exist, did I find peace. I hope you find your way to heal, to be free. Hugs
Usually I cannot sit through a video without my attention wondering off, I sat through this whole video hypnotized. Such a great storyteller!❤️ when you are ready let me help you up we will walk together❤️🥲
Thank you for sharing your families story, seeing how painful it was I’m sure you are helping a lot of ppl in their grief!! You are a wonderful storyteller just as your father….the last line is one I will think about for years to come “when you are ready let me help you up, we will walk together!” Truly amazing….💙💙
I lost a loved one to death. I praise The Living God for sending me so much care and comfort during that time so close to the death. God is holy. He provided for me in ways too many to count. I thank Him, and I praise Him when I am in pain and when experiencing joy. It was so good to know that Jotham died a believer. All that pain he went through, and He never let go of God. 🎉❤🎉❤
Another amazing story of pain and suffering and love,,,,,, we need more people like this,, beautiful people inside and out,,, hopefully his pain is less severe today
Lost my parents to cancer as a teenager and watched my siblings and I fight to cope.... This video resonated deeply with me and my experience of love and faith. Thank you for this moving video.
Matthew, thank you so very much for sharing your story. You are an amazing speaker, you had me hanging on your every word. I am so sorry for all the heartache in your life, I have lost 2 children, I feel your pain. I'd like you to know that, for me, your words gave me some strength. You are an amazing human. And Mark, thank you very much for doing what you do best..... just letting people tell their story. Thank you
My wife and I lost our first son Oliver during the pregnancy, we went on to lose 6 more over the course of 5 years total. When the pastor of our family church came over to comfort us it was very kind but my faith was long gone. We went to church at some point after the loss. It felt as if everyone was staring at us. Thankfully we had eachother and discovered an excellent grief councillor. We're also blessed to have finally had a healthy and happy boy! Thank you for sharing your story, may your Son rest in peace and free from pain.
Wow, talk about a TRUE storyteller through and through. I can appreciate anyone who speaks with such conviction! He has the warm energy of someone who wants to help others. Please bring this man back on immediately!
This man speaks poetic truth in ways that moves me to tears. An amazing story teller, an amazing teacher. I feel incredibly lucky to have pressed play on this video. What a gift.
Wow, this is one of my favorite videos. This gentleman is in so much pain over the passing of his son. 5 min into the video I was captivated with his story. Will be praying for your family.
I HAVE SHARED THIS EVERYWHERE> YOU HAVE REACHED THE PINNACLE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE ON SOFT WHITE UNDERBELLY. LOVE and PAIN ..made me think this: "Humans are emotional creatures " Grateful for Mathew Draper and this channel.
Thank you so much for this story. Thank you for opening your heart and revealing your broken heart to all of us. Thank you for being so strong and so weak. Thank you. You inspire me to keep helping with my broken heart. I didn’t want to help anymore bc it has been so broken. Thank you dear soul. Thank you.
“That’s when we learn, how to breathe water. There is an 11.” I have not heard grief articulated in a way that comes as close to describing the pain of tragedy. Sir, you are profoundly needed. Thank you so much, from one broken to another ❤ You are an incredible father, and I feel you will be a father figure to many
Being highly empathic is a gift for everyone around you and a curse for yourself. That's my feeling. This was the best interview I have ever seen. I hear you man, much love.
Mark, this is the most beautiful interview. Every word he said about grief, compassion, and love struck me as hard as the moment my little sister died in our arms. I really wish I could talk to Matthew; just to thank him for understanding that it goes to 11, and for giving words to my pain. Matthew, if you read this, please know that you’ve touched my heart in ways I didn’t think were possible. Oh, how I know how this hurts. Bless you, your family, your loved ones. Please know that your interview is something I have and will watch time and again, grasping at the words that make so much sense in a world where my reality has stopped. Thank you so much, Mark and Matthew
I think this might be the most important interview you’ve done, especially in light of a body of work that shines a light on the depth of human suffering. May we with broken hearts be a shelter for others.
I lost my oldest son in 2010 so i know this pain. I pretend every day to move forward and being ok. This is what those who don't know this pain expect. The hardest part of my life today... Being a phony. not my true self as they know nothing about. I can't hardly wait to run from this life but just for today i will pretend one more day. Thank God for my 2nd son who is the only one here that knows this rarely spoken pain losing his only brother.
Absolute amazing. I have never been so enthralled; utterly poignant and touches my soul. Your struggles and search for light when disillusioned did not go on deaf ears; and helps so many.
I believe everyone on this channel and most watching this channel has experienced loss to some degree and needed this. This is the magic, compassion, love, understanding, healing and you Matthew have it. Thank you again
Brilliant orator. Brilliant and practiced storytelling in the face of shattering grief. Shame eternal on those who laid blame at their feet. There is no magic save what is in our hearts and minds.
Tears streaming down my face. I am not eloquent or articulate enough to fully explain the profound effect listening to Matthews story had on me. What an incredible human. Faith in hope and love. Xxx
I am so moved that you have all the words to speak of your loss of your son. I have yet to find so many words to bear my grief from such a tragic loss. My youngest of two children is no longer among the living. RIP Best Baby Girl! 03/01/1992-12/06/2022 You are so deeply missed!
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I took several classes from Matt Draper at Utah Valley University. He was my favorite professor. A man of great empathy and compassion. I have the highest regard for this wonderful teacher. God bless you, Matt! ❤️
I've also been his student and now his friend. His capacity for love and resilience in the face of adversity is awe inspiring. The world is a better place with him in it.
His entire being was on display for us. I have never felt so much more than I did today. Your story was infinitely felt and so impactful. Thank you, Mark, for choosing this man's story. ❤
What a brilliant orator and storyteller. He uses words to paint scenes in a way that invites the listener to feel his pain, joy, and everything in between.
Correct, a storyteller. Fiction at its best here.
A very exhausting storyteller, you see.
@@jbkg5898 Just because he's Mormon doesn't mean his pain isn't real. Just because he knows his way around the English language better than the average joe doesn't mean his story is less real than yours. I'm sorry you live such an uncolored life that you feel it necessary to make others as such.
WOW "Therapy is not about curing a diagnosed mental illness. Instead, it is how to love, relate, and help others cope in the face of what a broken world gives them." (I paraphrased a bit) Chills, thank you for sharing.
Agreed completely
Those are some real healing words right there!!
I agree. This is often true. I am a grieving parent. I cannot be fixed. I don’t want to be fixed. I just need my therapist to listen to me and then reframe my thinking so perhaps it’s a bit more logical. For a while. I just need her to sit with me in my pain. This episode of SWU was and will continue to be the apex of this channel.
Yes, and so well said.
Mark Laita, we need more interviews like this. So totally real. So extremely deeply felt.
Yes please
Yes double please with a cherry on top 🍒
I'm glad you were entertained.
No, we don't
Agree!!
This is one of the most profound interviews I have heard on this channel. The image of God not being on the throne at the top of the mountain, but beside people saying “I know this hurts. Let me know when you want me to help you” (I’m paraphrasing) is so powerful. It reminds me of Psalm 23, that when we walk through the darkest valley, God is with us. His rod and staff comfort us.
I don't believe in god at all but I can 100% get behind what you wrote. In end it doesn't matter. As long as we share compassion and love and undertanding and acceptance we can happily live together on earth :)
@@rumbatumblajambomambo6241. Wow, l am blown away by those that cannot see very clearly that their IS a Creator. Study cosmology, biology, look at the natural world ALL around you and tell me this is ALL random! The ruling psychopaths have done a number on humanity and our objective reality…it’s called mind CONtrol and you are brainwashed. May the Creator bliss you out of your grand delusions!
Such an eloquent, intelligent, articulate, educated, and passionate storyteller. His delivery was profound! It was like listening to an audiobook. Amazing! Lots of powerful messages to our society. I'm sorry for his loss and pain, but he has persevered.
From one Utahn to another and from another human who also lost faith in the magic, your story hit me profoundly. You told your story so exquisitely and I could feel the pain in your word. This is one of the best interviews I have yet to see.
As an avid Tolkien reader, man of faith, and love for people and specifically those that can articulate their story so incredibly captivating yet succinct… all I can say is… Wow.
Yes. Just wow.
I had to bury a 2 yr old son in 1987 and cremate a 41 yr old daughter in 2020. My culture is Choctaw. We are story tellers. If we were not telling our family or personal stories we were reading books. My fav part of pow wows as a child was the story telling circles and Dancing. When I grew older I told stories in my dancing and my art. Each time my children died I found ways to express these new chapters of my story, to set them down in expression.
You are a most fantastic story teller. I could listen to you for hours. My heart goes out to you …
My great grandsons born two months early on my deceased daughter’s (her daughters twins) birthday in May on the 13th 2024 their names are Asaiah and Amaziah. Home now and healthy. This is amazing in itself but three years ago 6 months after my daughter died her first grand child was born ON HER BIRTHDAY May 13th 2021 a grandson (her son’s son) his is is Xairo. Miracles. What else could three babies in three years born on their young deceased grandma’s birthday?
The son of my deceased daughter’s who had her first grand child was born with his heart backwards and the valves placed wrong. At 7 days old he had open heart surgery. He lived. My little brother was born with a teratoma. We didn’t know until it was discovered he had kidney cancer and next to it in the area where there should of been a healthy kidney was the teratoma tumor. He couldn’t have the cancerous kidney removed safely. So they flew to another state and had surgery to remove the cancer from his kidney. It was successful. It has not returned. When I was in my mid 30’s they found what they said was a fatty tumor in my back but they removed it they found basal cell cancer cells in it and went back in and cut out more to give me clean edges around the tumor area. They also found basal cell skin cancer on my nose. They said it was caught very early … I am from the San Fransisco Bay Area and Stanford did those surgeries. U.C San Francisco did my grandson’s heart surgery l, the famous medical examiner who had a movie made about him (with Will Smith) who discovered the connection with brain damage and football players he did my daughter’s 2nd autopsy after strangers and family and friends donated to a go fund me account so we could pay him and transport my daughter’s body to the Central Valley. That autopsy gave the cause of why we lost her.
She was another victim of one of the pandemics that has hit our world. My son drowned do to a bad baby sitter when I was 27..This is a convoluted telling of part of my walk with loss and losing. My faith is not Christian or Muslim or any well known organized religion. I have had people say similar things to me about the loss of my kids, my husband, my mom etc. big hugs
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@@lisaweatheral4458I’m so sorry for your losses .
@@lisaweatheral4458I’m so sorry to hear about your loss. I’m hurting for you, but I’m happy you’re here.
I’m not religious but what he is saying about grief is the realest thing I’ve ever heard. I lost my daughter in 2022 and I still get crippled with grief almost daily. I also loved how beautifully he said “I don’t want you to imagine this” because I used to get mad when people said “omg I can’t imagine” when in all facts this is my reality. But he’s right. We shouldn’t HAVE to imagine it. It’s unnatural to lose your child. I’m so very sorry for his loss and the family’s.
I'm sorry you lost your daughter. I am raising my 12 year old son on my own after losing my wife a little over two years ago from a pulmonary embolism. You are very strong, because I don't think I could live if I lost my son.
@@gdash4187 so sorry about your wife. That’s a terrible way to lose her. Losing my daughter killed a huge part of me. I’d like to go on this channel and tell my story one day.
@@iluvjt94 Thank you. Mark has answered every email I have ever sent him. You should contact him.
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"I may have lost my faith in magic. I may have lost faith in the way my profession does things but I have not lost my faith in hope. I have not lost faith in love. So to all of you out there for whom the magic did not work, for those of you who have lost loved ones, I get it. And there are so many of us out there.
You know, Hemmingway wrote in 'Farewell to Arms', "For whom the world does not kill, it breaks" and it breaks the very lovely, the very kind, and the very capable. One thing you will find when you hold to the faith, in kindness & love, is that your heart will be cracked so wide that others can walk in and find shelter there. May we all have broken hearts that we may provide shelter for one another."
Profound.
I wrote this entire part down as well! SO GOOD! ❤
He is correct. That is what I do. I try to lift others because I know what it feels like to fall. ❤😢❤
“May we all have broken hearts that we may provide shelter for one another…”
Matthew Draper
That’s the most amazing story you’ve recorded yet. What a remarkable man. His description of grief, especially the loss of a child, is like non I have ever heard.
"As heavy as the lead is in your bones, it is the source of your power". I've never heard more profound words. I love this man!
Thanks industrial pollution for adding lead to our bones!"
@@CH-lc4zi I want to be Cyclops
I don’t understand?
I'm so lucky to know this man and his family since 2008. It's all true. He's a blessing to all who know him. He's comforted me because of his deep grief and compassion. So much love to you and Miriam and the Diamond Princess and the Goblin King. ❤️ I'm in awe of you and you have my loyalty forever.
May we all have broken hearts so that we can provide shelter for others.
I wouldn’t wish a broken heart on anyone. Not all of us can process this way 💔
Yes!
Wowza! Such strong words “The world that we have given them is fractured. So how do we care for people in a fractured world because the world has a way of fracturing us.”
I think I'll pass, if it's all the same to you. Life has kicked the shit out of me quite enough.
It's a rarity that I'm without words to describe how something impacted me. I'm simply without words and left sitting grateful that I had the opportunity to hear this incredible mans experience and views.
This is the most profound interview and telling I have ever encountered. Thank you, Matthew and Mark.
I love you Matthew. And will always carry the life lesson you have gifted me with today. I am grateful for your ability to relive this trial. And will remain diligent, in my love for all things living, forever and ever, Amen.
Wow. Did not plan on crying this morning 😢 god bless this man and his wife and Jothams siblings. My problems seem so much smaller today.
My tears just flowed, listening to this story - my goodness 🩶
This is my absolute favorite interview I’ve ever watched on any platform. Amazing. I hope his family finds as much peace and comfort that can be allowed in the circumstances.
I agree. My absolute favorite.
I’ve never known a more compassionate person, teacher, and mentor. Unbelievably grateful to continue learning from and working with Matt.
He would be awesome for audio books... his voice is perfect
Ol Doctor D is his TH-cam channel
He certainly is a great story teller.
Im in terre haute Indiana!
His voice is like butter. It soothes my soul.
This is not an interview. It's a well-rehearsed monologue. And he is indeed a captivating and moving storyteller. ❤
Yes, it seemed like a brilliant actor delivering a monolog---not that I doubt the story. Not at all. Interesting.
@@anncarter1663yes, exactly! Brilliant and compelling.
Many other of these "interviews" are not really interviews. Mark is not an interviewer but a gifted photographer who has the time, energy, courage and interest in helping folks share their stories.
Consider it a gift to be able to take your life experiences and orate to others in a way that can offer some solace and help to other people.
I noticed that too
yes, very performative
This man speaks so eloquently. It is not his grief that intrigues me. On the contrary, it is his words. How he chooses to use them that grabbed my attention.
Like many of the people who share their stories on this platform, I find them comforting. I hope this man finds it therapeutic in telling his story. It's a very compelling one. May it help him, the way it helps me. I admire his strength and courage in reliving this most difficult experience.
My friend, you and your family are in my prayers. Consider writing a book. It would serve you well. Many blessings.
Mark, wow this was an amazing interview. I could sit and listen to this man all day every day he has a eloquent way of telling a story. Heartbreaking and felt his pain but glad to hear he stood in his faith. Much love and many blessings to Matthew , his family and all who are here
Ol Doctor D is Matthew’s TH-cam channel
“Divinity is found in the face of the other.” I needed to hear that. Thanks for sharing, Matthew. Sending love and positive thoughts your way.
It does sound like a nice quote huh? What I get from what he said, is what a lot of people are saying nowadays; that they are gods and worship yourself because you are god.
That's where many people are going wrong in this world, the created being worshipping itself instead of worshipping and glorifying the one who created them.
@@labyrinthoflies4438 and abandoned them or put them through trials they did not deserve.
That is exactly why we need one another.
You really did not understand what Matthew said. Not one bit.
"May we all have broken hearts, that we may provide shelter for one another" Thank you Matthew
Stunning interview!!! I, too, am in crisis with a child - 6 years of crisis. I have completely lost my (old) faith. But faith is a shapeshifter. It morphs into something else when you least expect it. This was the bare truth that he discovered as well. I will never forget this guy.
That is so true! My faith shifted to be more pure! Less religious! More loving! ❤ I am so sorry that you are in crisis! Hoping and praying that you and the child can find peace!
Jotham was incredibly lucky to have you as his father . He is still with you because the soul never dies . Thank you for sharing your story of utter heartbreak and bravery . Sending love and light to your family 💕🌸.
I wish more men would tap into there emotional side as this beautiful soul has done. 🙏🏽
I'm not trying to be confrontational at all, and I wish men could. Every time I have been emotional or vulnerable with a woman I was in a relationship with, they have thrown it back in my face any arguments that happened. After it happening three times since my younger days, I've learned to keep it internalized.
@@gdash4187 the reason "men don't cry" was passed on generation to generation is because it actually harms our reproductive capacity (it is unattractive to women)
You say that but you don’t actually mean it, that’s not what you NEED, it’s a goofy modern WANT
@@gdash4187that unfortunate.
Until the emotional side grows to become uncontrollable. Being overly emotional is a burden.
Losing a child. No words. Just devastating. Came close with my granddaughter. And still medically fragile. Your heart hurts. Tough stuff.
Thank you for telling your story and pouring out your guts. So much pain. Broken heart open to shelter others. Beautiful.
What stood out to me the most was that even though Jotham was going through so much, he had so much love in his heart...so much faith... that his last communication was a prayer. He believed. I am inspired by his heart. And God did heal him. Not in the way that we all want. But, He gave him everlasting life with no sorrow, no pain, no disappointment. Matthew, you and your beautiful family will be with Jotham again one day. And what a beautiful day that will be.
Amen!
Amen and hallelujah I can't wait for the day that I'm back with my little girl who didn't get to come into the world her name was Sarah Sarah Ruth
Amen 🙏
Amen. 💕🙏🙏🙏
An absolute incredible interview that sent me into an emotional spiral! What a great speaker with a philosophy born of pain, perception, faith and growth. Very impressed!
Wow the end was so so powerful… it’s said many times on this channel - but this was truly one of the strongest videos yet. What a special human being…
Thank you for sharing this incredibly important and difficult story. I lost my 24 year old son. He wasn’t able to speak but we could read each others thoughts. On the day he was diagnosed with renal failure I felt the tiredness in his eyes, his body and his beautiful soul. We stayed by his side and like your family helped comfort him in his final few days. I am so thankful to have heard your story. “Sinking into the crashing waves” resonated with me beyond words. Wishing you peace and love.
I worked in a children’s cancer clinic for many years. I was completely captivated by the story of his grief. His articulation of grief as a parent was perfection. It was a job I have held in my heart and miss every single day. Everything else pales in comparison. We loved and fought for them all. Most of them made it or I couldn’t have done it. Healthy coping mechanisms are a necessity. I bet his son’s journey touched many lives of his caregivers too.
This man is an astounding storyteller. It must have been really wonderful for you to have been able to relax and just let his spirit flow so beautifully and profoundly. Thank you for finding this man and giving him such a perfect forum to share his truth.
I took a class from Matt Draper at UVU and it was honestly my favorite (and hardest) class from my entire undergrad degree. I never knew this part of his story. Jotham sounds like he was an amazing person. I hope you guys will get to be together again. Thank you for the light and compassion that you bring into this world. We need more people like you, Matt.
This man is absolutely incredible at telling his story. Im blown away...its like reading a fantastic book (altho so sad about his son).
Powerful testimony Thankyou for explaining God so perfectly. My heart was also broken and I now have a spring of compassion and love. Thankyou sir you moved me to tears. You have the gift of a healer ❤
Dear Matthew I do not know if you will ever see this message but I would really like to express my sorrow for your loss and would like to express my gratitude for sharing such an intimate experience in your life in such a heartfelt, candid and incredibly eloquent and articulate way. I was so moved by your words and just sobbed with you final statement " May we all have broken hearts that we may provide shelter for one another " That phrase touched something very deep within me. I wish you and your family much love and healing across the miles.
Beautiful.
I resonate so deeply with this eloquent man’s story. All the levels. The belief in the “magic”. The desperation of soul to end the suffering of your innocent child and the breaking open of your heart that others might find shelter there. Brother, I hope I meet you one day. In the crucible of affliction comes life’s grandest epiphanies. My son passed at age 9 after nothing could be found to save him from the seizures that stole him from us.
This man is so incredibly inspirational. Last July I lost my mom. The grief I’ve suffered is immense. To suffer grief is to love unconditional love. That is what I’ve been told. I have struggled so much in the last year. So many times during this interview I wished I could have hugged him.
Thank you for sharing this beautiful man and his
Heartbreaking story.
I don't believe that he lost the magic. He realized that love is the magic, and that his heart is big enough to comfort others.
Amen. God is love ❤
So beautiful ❤
Thank you, Matthew, for baring your soul here, and for showing us-all The Way forward-especially those of us who have lost a child.
This comes at a particularly-important time, as it was three years, last week (July 13), that we lost our son, Jordan, in a swimming accident.
In the time since, I thought it was impossible to articulate the “11” level of pain, and didn’t even have a label to put on it, but now, I do. THANK YOU!
Hundreds of thousands, or more, will hear your testimony, and will now be able to understand.
Much love to you and your family, sir.
Wow.
I’m saving this video to share and to listen to over and over again. I have no words to express how this interview made me feel.
@truesavings1988 Same❤
Words cannot adequately express my gratitude for your talk Matthew. I cried for your son Jotham and my father, whose death broke the magic in my world. Thank you for your time and ability to put this pain in words.
His description of grief was beautifully articulated. It is so hard.
Many times I truly believe God has forgotten me and my oldest son. But then something reminds me HE is with me. The Lord is with this man and his family. I pray you’re suffering lessens and never stop speaking of your beautiful boy 🙏🏽❤️
Mark, each time I’ve think I’ve seen the best interview on the channel you put out something that tops it. Thank you for letting Matthew share his story and his pain.
I agree❤❤❤
I lost my 15 year old Son in 2021 and Matt describes child loss SO perfectly. Learning to breathe underwater. 💔💔
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I'm so sorry for your loss. That really is an incredible metaphore.
My dear 😢
Stories like these make the world better. bring faith back to humanity from humanity.
An amazing job at telling a heartwrenching story of loss. I pray for your grief. God bless you sir.
He has the gift of story telling ❤ what a powerful story he has to tell. Thank you Mark and Matthew
This was so very heavy. What a wonderful story teller. When he said his dad was a wonderful story teller I thought to myself that his dad passed that wonderful trait down to him. I can only imagine being one of his children listening to his stories & insight. Captivated the entire time with his big presence & profound love of language. All while holding space and sharing his warmth, heartbreak & kindness! You sir have made me stop today to take a deep breath & look around to be grateful for all that I love. Thank you for being here & sharing your magic 🫶🏼
My heart hurts for this man. I feel his pain because I too lost my son and my faith was cracked at its foundation.
I wish I didn't understand, but I do.
"When you hold to the faith in kindness and love, your heart will be cracked so wide that others can walk in and find shelter there" This statement was extremely profound to me. Sending love to all the broken hearts caused by grief of a loved one❤️❤️❤️
This is one of your best interviews. This man is amazing. I could listen to him for hours. Amazing speaker and the way he describes his grief is gut wrenching. I am so sorry for your loss and Thank you for sharing your story.
I wish life was fair and your son would be able to live. I’m sorry for your loss. I’m struggling so much with my situation that your words have a great impact to help me try to understand it. Thank you for sharing. I hope to hear more from you.
"The world that we have given them is fractured". That's the perfect description of the world we have created and given our children.
This was exquisitely beautiful and profound. Thank you for sharing it this way.
My son passed away 4 yrs ago and I lost all faith when our prayers for him to recover went unanswered. I still struggle with my anger at god for letting my son be killed. Losing a child is a heartbreak that never heals.
As a non religious person I could never understand how people can have an unrelenting faith in god when kids are dying or suffering. Thank you for sharing x
My heart breaks for you ❤ Like you I struggled with my anger towards my Christian concept of god. It’s only when I realized that concept of god did not exist, did I find peace. I hope you find your way to heal, to be free. Hugs
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We live in a fallen world where Satan is in charge. You can't blame God for your sons death🩵🙏
Hands-down the best thing I have ever seen on this channel.
Agree. I have been engaged by many of them. Nothing like this though.
Usually I cannot sit through a video without my attention wondering off, I sat through this whole video hypnotized. Such a great storyteller!❤️ when you are ready let me help you up we will walk together❤️🥲
Thank you for sharing your families story, seeing how painful it was I’m sure you are helping a lot of ppl in their grief!! You are a wonderful storyteller just as your father….the last line is one I will think about for years to come “when you are ready let me help you up, we will walk together!” Truly amazing….💙💙
I lost a loved one to death. I praise The Living God for sending me so much care and comfort during that time so close to the death. God is holy. He provided for me in ways too many to count. I thank Him, and I praise Him when I am in pain and when experiencing joy. It was so good to know that Jotham died a believer. All that pain he went through, and He never let go of God. 🎉❤🎉❤
This was such a profound interview. Matthew spoke so beautifully and with so much emotion. I feel this will help many people that give it a listen.
Another amazing story of pain and suffering and love,,,,,, we need more people like this,, beautiful people inside and out,,, hopefully his pain is less severe today
What a profound statement from a father about broken hearts… this man IS grace. ❤ he is wonderful.
This is one of my favorite soft white underbelly interviews. Thank you for taking the time to share your story and also thank you Mark!
Lost my parents to cancer as a teenager and watched my siblings and I fight to cope.... This video resonated deeply with me and my experience of love and faith. Thank you for this moving video.
Matthew, thank you so very much for sharing your story. You are an amazing speaker, you had me hanging on your every word. I am so sorry for all the heartache in your life, I have lost 2 children, I feel your pain. I'd like you to know that, for me, your words gave me some strength. You are an amazing human. And Mark, thank you very much for doing what you do best..... just letting people tell their story. Thank you
My wife and I lost our first son Oliver during the pregnancy, we went on to lose 6 more over the course of 5 years total. When the pastor of our family church came over to comfort us it was very kind but my faith was long gone.
We went to church at some point after the loss. It felt as if everyone was staring at us. Thankfully we had eachother and discovered an excellent grief councillor.
We're also blessed to have finally had a healthy and happy boy!
Thank you for sharing your story, may your Son rest in peace and free from pain.
Congratulations 🎉🎈🎊
Intense grief brings a time warp. Suffer 1000 deaths. Congratulate yourself--you made it. And still together 💕 blessings
A beautiful interview that embraced the broken heart of this Momma… thank you 💔
This is the most powerful talk, I've ever heard.
Thank you for sharing your story. And I hope we all can heal.❤
Wow, talk about a TRUE storyteller through and through. I can appreciate anyone who speaks with such conviction! He has the warm energy of someone who wants to help others. Please bring this man back on immediately!
This man speaks poetic truth in ways that moves me to tears. An amazing story teller, an amazing teacher. I feel incredibly lucky to have pressed play on this video. What a gift.
Wow, this is one of my favorite videos. This gentleman is in so much pain over the passing of his son. 5 min into the video I was captivated with his story. Will be praying for your family.
I HAVE SHARED THIS EVERYWHERE> YOU HAVE REACHED THE PINNACLE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE ON SOFT WHITE UNDERBELLY. LOVE and PAIN ..made me think this: "Humans are emotional creatures " Grateful for Mathew Draper and this channel.
Thank you so much for this story. Thank you for opening your heart and revealing your broken heart to all of us. Thank you for being so strong and so weak. Thank you. You inspire me to keep helping with my broken heart. I didn’t want to help anymore bc it has been so broken. Thank you dear soul. Thank you.
“That’s when we learn, how to breathe water. There is an 11.”
I have not heard grief articulated in a way that comes as close to describing the pain of tragedy. Sir, you are profoundly needed. Thank you so much, from one broken to another ❤ You are an incredible father, and I feel you will be a father figure to many
All I can say is Damn! This man took me on his journey and I felt every single step of it. I actually feel changed in a way.
Being highly empathic is a gift for everyone around you and a curse for yourself. That's my feeling. This was the best interview I have ever seen. I hear you man, much love.
Mark, this is the most beautiful interview. Every word he said about grief, compassion, and love struck me as hard as the moment my little sister died in our arms.
I really wish I could talk to Matthew; just to thank him for understanding that it goes to 11, and for giving words to my pain.
Matthew, if you read this, please know that you’ve touched my heart in ways I didn’t think were possible. Oh, how I know how this hurts.
Bless you, your family, your loved ones. Please know that your interview is something I have and will watch time and again, grasping at the words that make so much sense in a world where my reality has stopped.
Thank you so much, Mark and Matthew
The best interviews are the ones in which Mark does not need to ask a single question. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏼
I could listen to him talk for hours. Absolutely profound insight and perspective. What an incredible human being.
Ol Doctor D is his TH-cam channel
I think this might be the most important interview you’ve done, especially in light of a body of work that shines a light on the depth of human suffering. May we with broken hearts be a shelter for others.
You can't help but be captivated and touched in a profound way. There aren't any words left. Just... feeling.
Matthew's story is heart breaking and beautiful at the same time. I've never heard grief described like this and his words are so impactful.
I lost my oldest son in 2010 so i know this pain. I pretend every day to move forward and being ok. This is what those who don't know this pain expect. The hardest part of my life today... Being a phony. not my true self as they know nothing about. I can't hardly wait to run from this life but just for today i will pretend one more day. Thank God for my 2nd son who is the only one here that knows this rarely spoken pain losing his only brother.
Absolute amazing. I have never been so enthralled; utterly poignant and touches my soul. Your struggles and search for light when disillusioned did not go on deaf ears; and helps so many.
Please have him back a hundred times. He is impossible not to listen to.
I believe everyone on this channel and most watching this channel has experienced loss to some degree and needed this. This is the magic, compassion, love, understanding, healing and you Matthew have it. Thank you again
Wow what an incredible story…shared in such a compelling way.
Brilliant orator. Brilliant and practiced storytelling in the face of shattering grief. Shame eternal on those who laid blame at their feet. There is no magic save what is in our hearts and minds.
Theres nothing stronger than a fathers love for his son 🙏
@@deanjohnson3660 or a Mother’s beg to differ ♥️
Facts
Tears streaming down my face. I am not eloquent or articulate enough to fully explain the profound effect listening to Matthews story had on me. What an incredible human. Faith in hope and love. Xxx
I am so moved that you have all the words to speak of your loss of your son.
I have yet to find so many words to bear my grief from such a tragic loss.
My youngest of two children is no longer among the living.
RIP Best Baby Girl!
03/01/1992-12/06/2022
You are so deeply missed!