It's a loud for an electric motor I can hear it whining. I have a 1200 watt bike and a 1500 watt bike and they're quiet motors anyway. Nice bike build I like it
Oh and BTW my ebike has a bafang 500w rear hub drive and for the past three years it has been a good bike. I do wonder if I put a 52v battery on it will it be more efficient and get better range
He always does that when riding on the roads as it's not technically legal on UK public roads over 15.5mph. But this kit will get upto 37-38mph on flat ground
Upto around 37mph top speed on flat ground. Range anything from 25-50 miles depending on the weather, if a lot of hills, your weight and if you use the battery heavily or not
Do you know about bafang? Have you ever had a bafang? My 1200w bbs02 would go about 30 kmh up that offroad hill, top speed 60kmh on flat. Bbshd is 20% more torque and power. Also waay more miles from same battery You dont know what are you missing till you try, just dont be so grannysh- half throttle on low rpm. Its big motor it won't break it won't spin it won't overheat! You're just in some fears
Fear is justified when the chain snaps under 160nm of torque. Mid drive is all well and good, but it has a single point of failure. Hub has redundancy. And with 2000w it about matches the bbsh2 mostly (does drain more power, true). I've got both hub and mid ebikes now. I use mid for casual riding, but for day-to-day delivery job when I have to ride for 8 hours all over the city, I need something simple and reliable. Hub drive is it. I don't want to think about the chain and gears, while having a 100 other things on my mind.
Hello bud, loving the video, I’m looking for a kit that’s gonna do about 40/45 mph is there anything you can recommend please and also is it better to get a branded battery?
@@grahamgeorge1130 you'll need 60v to get 45mph but I really would not recommend that on a mountain bike conversion, because the stresses on cornering alone at that speed are beyond what mtb's are built for. I had a carerra that I converted to 52v @ 30amps and nearly killed myself leaning on a turn. If you want to go over 40 get full suspension, strong disc brakes and tyres that can handle the extra lean you'll use on corners. Hope your build goes well and you get what you want. ll the best.
New to all this, but from my understanding a MTB conversion shouldn't really go that fast due to strain on the bike, anymore than that you should be looking at full suspension ebike, something like a Talaria, Sur-Ron, or build/buy an Enduro frame or stealth bomber ebike.
Think I'm going to get one of these kits in the next month or so..... couple of questions, does the kit need to be set up via a PC or can you do it all from that little on board screen on your handlebars? What top speed are you looking at? Really enjoying your and Andys content at the min keep it up lads 🤙
Get one mate you will not regret it. You can change lots of settings on those screens to suit your needs. There are videos going into detail of how to do it and it's very easy. I've made a ebike one week ago and it's so good. Already done 80miles on it. Fell off once and smashed my eye up tho. Got three stitched in the wound lol. They can be dangerous so wear a helmet if you get one
@@DudeStuff A good guide is approx 1 mile per amp hour range, that's not doing slow, on a hot day, in England these ebikes hate cold, best warming battery in house if going out in winter, then wrap battery in thick wool scarf 🧣
Why do you never mention whether these are geared or direct drive motors? I'm going to assume this one is a direct drive by the looks of it and it couldn't make it up that hill without you peddeling at 2000 watts.
Nope, never had any issues with rain yet, works better I've seen probably 30+ controllers melt and overheat in bags when people don't keep an eye on temperatures
@@DudeStuff I've just lost my licence so I'm in process of selling my car and am going to be in desperate need for one that can take me as far reasonably fast for less than 2k 😅 what do you think the odds are
The kits fit on anything really. If you have some sort of knowledge on bikes you'll be able to figure it out. Recently made my own ebike. 35mph max so far. Voilmart 1500watt rear hub with controller built into the hub with a 19ah 52v Panasonic battery. Thing is dangerous but fun. Get a kit and you won't regret it mate.
I’ve ordered this kit off Andy Kirby thinking that it was a uk based company, your transaction just get transferred to China now after reading trust pilot reviews (the nine fake ones) I’m concerned I been scammed but lucky I paid with pay pal
52v 17.5a bike, any ebike can perform better with an upgraded controller but you're adding £300+ to the build and this goes quick enough for most people. I have upgraded controllers on 2 other ebikes but they cost a lot extra
Hello, I find your video great, I bought the same 2000w 48v controller wheel kit and 52v 17ah battery on aliexpress but it only goes up to 30 km / h I tried to change the maximum speed settings but it does not work
With so many different riding conditions it’s good rule of thumb to routinely check and tighten your spokes. Very easy to do yourself. Tool is a couple of dollars. As far as the battery if unable to mount on frame like u say then have some type of secure cushiony mount. IMO batteries life might be shortened with all the shock from the bumps if mounted on rack. Welds can be broken. The perfect place is in the triangle but we work with what we have.
question, about what would be the weight difference between 3000w motor compared to a 2000w? would you consider the power difference a lot? should i go with 3000 w without even thinking about it? the 2000w seems like it really struggled up the hill, damn, i expected to crush it actually, is this the battery's fault not providing a lot of power?
Got to factor in this guy is pretty big and muscly, he wouldn't be light... Maybe different for average weight guy. I just order the same kit and im 105kg so i am not expecting peak performance up hills HAHA @@devlin2011
That's why people complain about ebikes go by him at 17 plus miles an hour too fast be going by pedestrians. I didn't have my leg cut wide open because of an e-bike cutting too close to me at too high of the speed. I own any bike myself I'm very cautious about going around people only takes a second to f*** somebody up
It's a direct-drive hub motor. What did you expect? And he didn't give the hill ANY run-up at all (if he had a running start, I guarantee you that thing would have shot up that hill). Frankly for a DD hub, it did well. Those things are NOT meant for hillclimbing from standstill, but high speeds on the flat. Mid-drive is for hillclimbing. For a DD hub to climb, you need to pedal a bit to get it going first.
@@necroticavalon5176 Wow, almost a year later to respond..what did I expect? Torque… I expect torque. Of course by now things may have improved slightly.
@@theunseen8054 Then your expectations were misplaced. You want torque, go mid-drive. I've ridden a Bosch CX ebike that puts this thing to shame on a hill, with only 250w, because it's mid drive and has hillclimb gearing. Or put a 72v battery on that hub. But as it is, it did pretty good, for what it is.
this is the kit im getting when i save up, glad to see its a motorcycle!
Thanks for putting a good hard real world test on your ebike love it
You always choose the best frames for your builds I bet they would last pretty much forever.
It seems the controller limited under 2000w? Slow up that hill. What was the amps under full throttle?
I think too!
it seems 35a
"48V 35Amp FOC sinewave 12mosfets Controller. It works for 36v, 48v and 52v lithium batteries." 3 years late but enjoy
That thing is epic mate
Came out good, thanks 😊
Great video, I’ve looked on Andy’s site and get confused on what to buy. His TH-cam is good but for a noob like me I get kinda lost easily. Thank you
Choose 250w, 500w or 1500w first. Select your wheel size and upgrades of needed! Easy 😉
@@DudeStuff thank you, I’ll take another look, appreciate the reply
@@DudeStuff when the kit comes is it easy to fit? I am also an e bike noob 😔
It's a loud for an electric motor I can hear it whining. I have a 1200 watt bike and a 1500 watt bike and they're quiet motors anyway. Nice bike build I like it
finally, a real test 👌
That bike is just up my street :)
You have some fantastic! Places to ride,what part of the country is that?great build
have you still got the drone???can you do some more footage bud,,,love your vids by the way
Thanks yeah I don't mind doing another drone video soon 😊
Drone video uploading it's gonna be controversial as always 😂🤦🏼♂️
Wow I need that conversion on mu bike lol brilliant well done......
It's an easy 32miles an hour. Maybe more cuz we're rocking the same kit
It's a bit concerning for a 2000w bike not being able to go up a hill properly, even with pedalling you were struggling. Something must be wrong
Very true
Did he not have it in the right gear for hill climbing?
Watch my next video on my Channel will be up tomorrow
I have a 72v on my 2000w and I feel if your gonna do a video like this, you should be properly powered....YOUR 20O0W MOTOR IS UNDER POWERED
@@Abaddon3x7 it was a hub motor so it’s geared internally
Wait...so that key just hangs out the side the whole time?
Oh and BTW my ebike has a bafang 500w rear hub drive and for the past three years it has been a good bike. I do wonder if I put a 52v battery on it will it be more efficient and get better range
Nope. But it will be faster.
did same thing burnt out the clutch inside the hub. dont do it. lol.
Not a bad kit done 600 miles so far. Back wheel is a bit weak tho.
Check your spokes mate if you haven't already 7 months on, all that torque is bound to have affected stress on the balance of your wheel
Keep spokes Tight
@@rogereheadbyrne4790 need at least a 2.3 tyre to protect wheel and soak up torque /twist motion
Was wondering why the speed was blurred
He always does that when riding on the roads as it's not technically legal on UK public roads over 15.5mph. But this kit will get upto 37-38mph on flat ground
Take the key out
I would like to buy the bike from your Facebook page how many miles can it do on a full charge, what is the range?
Check my channel dude
Lovely place, where are you?
Is a small battery for 2000W , need a big battery for mor power
Lol the blurred speedo
What? It clearly says 15.5 mph throughout the entire ride 🙃
@@matthew3774 oh yeah sorry I forgot to put my glasses on 😆
I've got a 2000 rear wheel motor and its come with a 48 volt control unit, what battery do I need
What sort of speed an range roughly on a 1500w wheel with a 52 v 20a battery thanks
Check my video for top speed 2000w on my channel
Upto around 37mph top speed on flat ground. Range anything from 25-50 miles depending on the weather, if a lot of hills, your weight and if you use the battery heavily or not
Do you know about bafang? Have you ever had a bafang? My 1200w bbs02 would go about 30 kmh up that offroad hill, top speed 60kmh on flat. Bbshd is 20% more torque and power. Also waay more miles from same battery You dont know what are you missing till you try, just dont be so grannysh- half throttle on low rpm. Its big motor it won't break it won't spin it won't overheat! You're just in some fears
Fear is justified when the chain snaps under 160nm of torque. Mid drive is all well and good, but it has a single point of failure. Hub has redundancy. And with 2000w it about matches the bbsh2 mostly (does drain more power, true). I've got both hub and mid ebikes now. I use mid for casual riding, but for day-to-day delivery job when I have to ride for 8 hours all over the city, I need something simple and reliable. Hub drive is it. I don't want to think about the chain and gears, while having a 100 other things on my mind.
I've got the exact kit myself, it's the second one I've bought. And it's 1500watt,mine dose 40mph
Post link to your kit mate
@@crf250rider9 kirkebike 1500w, Andy kirby on TH-cam, its on a trek bike. Thats the kit I bought £850 with the battery.
@@MrX-kc4bj ive just received my kit motor arrived last week battery arrived today and yes its all completed now i will do the test tonight 😂🤨
Hi how heavy is the kit
I was looking at that kit for my older GT frame I live in the sticks is it good for hills how far can you go
Huh. For 2000w that actualy kind of struggles up hills. Or are you just very heavy?
How the take off
I know we’re that is ur at hadleigh bike park
What's the kit you're using there as I want to buy it from your website
kirbebike.com/diy-conversion-kits/kirbebike-1500w-2000w-ebike-kit-inc-ion-plus-58v-17ah-battery-detail.html
With the mtx wheel upgrade
@@DudeStuff So is 17Ah the maximum capacity of the battery?
Thats such a beautiful coastal area...where is that?
Hello bud, loving the video, I’m looking for a kit that’s gonna do about 40/45 mph is there anything you can recommend please and also is it better to get a branded battery?
I highly doubt anytime needs to do 45 on a mountain bike 🤷🏼♂️, the 2000w Andy Kirby kits will do around 37 on the flat throttle only
@@DudeStuff cheers will take a look now, I love speed lol
@@grahamgeorge1130 you'll need 60v to get 45mph but I really would not recommend that on a mountain bike conversion, because the stresses on cornering alone at that speed are beyond what mtb's are built for. I had a carerra that I converted to 52v @ 30amps and nearly killed myself leaning on a turn. If you want to go over 40 get full suspension, strong disc brakes and tyres that can handle the extra lean you'll use on corners. Hope your build goes well and you get what you want. ll the best.
New to all this, but from my understanding a MTB conversion shouldn't really go that fast due to strain on the bike, anymore than that you should be looking at full suspension ebike, something like a Talaria, Sur-Ron, or build/buy an Enduro frame or stealth bomber ebike.
Think I'm going to get one of these kits in the next month or so..... couple of questions, does the kit need to be set up via a PC or can you do it all from that little on board screen on your handlebars? What top speed are you looking at? Really enjoying your and Andys content at the min keep it up lads 🤙
Hi mate, no pc need you can change mph/kmh, wheel size in the settings and it's ready to go, good luck
Get one mate you will not regret it. You can change lots of settings on those screens to suit your needs. There are videos going into detail of how to do it and it's very easy. I've made a ebike one week ago and it's so good. Already done 80miles on it. Fell off once and smashed my eye up tho. Got three stitched in the wound lol. They can be dangerous so wear a helmet if you get one
Very nice you got link to the controller
Standard controller mate kit from kirbebike.com
nice!, where is this location?
Hadleigh Essex
How long and many miles does the 72 volt 3000 w setup get?
Oh right...BansheeBandit.... I thought I noticed those streets somewhere.
Man use some old tires gum to fixate your battery, it will be much more fun when no knocking!
What range do you get the e bike kits?
So many factors, depends on your weight, how fast you go, wind, hills, if you peddle, what assist level, if it's cold etc
Approx 1 mile per amp hour
@@DudeStuff A good guide is approx 1 mile per amp hour range, that's not doing slow, on a hot day, in England these ebikes hate cold, best warming battery in house if going out in winter, then wrap battery in thick wool scarf 🧣
Why do you never mention whether these are geared or direct drive motors? I'm going to assume this one is a direct drive by the looks of it and it couldn't make it up that hill without you peddeling at 2000 watts.
Definitely DD motor. There aren't many geared 2000w hubs. They'd burn out under load.
Awesome bike! Luv your content.
Thanks man
Does rain affect the controller, as it is not covered by anything
Nope, never had any issues with rain yet, works better I've seen probably 30+ controllers melt and overheat in bags when people don't keep an eye on temperatures
Do you keep the battery on to charge then?
@@dmfman123 I do yeah I keep bikes indoors to charge but you could just replace the adhesive tape with adhesive velcro if you needed to take it off
@@DudeStuff ok cheers for info
@@DudeStuff nice one👍🏻
What kit did you buy
2kw should be running on 60v that would work help to improve the hill climb performance
Volts gives speed, you want Amps for torque....
It's not actually 2kw its 1500w so 52v is fine
Please fit some lights!
Do you sell them once built
Some yeah usually got 1 for sale
@@DudeStuff I've just lost my licence so I'm in process of selling my car and am going to be in desperate need for one that can take me as far reasonably fast for less than 2k 😅 what do you think the odds are
@@zulvalor7266 to have for sale check my latest videos
Can these kits be put on cube bikes?
Watch my diy guide video will probably answer a lot of your questions about fitment
@@DudeStuff thanks mate ill check it out. Just wondered as the cassette side has weird bolt on drop outs. 👍🏻
Yes, I've fitted one on my cube Ltd sl 29er, Google kirbebike cube and you'll see my pics on the net.
@@jasonlocke367 hi mate. I found your post and replied/asked a few questions on there.
The kits fit on anything really. If you have some sort of knowledge on bikes you'll be able to figure it out. Recently made my own ebike. 35mph max so far. Voilmart 1500watt rear hub with controller built into the hub with a 19ah 52v Panasonic battery. Thing is dangerous but fun. Get a kit and you won't regret it mate.
Why u hide the speed
Because in the UK we have too many snow flakes
@@DudeStuff um
I bet its fast in near 40 or 50
How fast did u get it up to?
37mph on flat ground no pedaling
@@DudeStuff thanks! 😊
How long does the battery last ?
Depends which pedal assist setting you use or if you use throttle only. But expect 25 miles or so just using throttle.
I’ve ordered this kit off Andy Kirby thinking that it was a uk based company, your transaction just get transferred to China now after reading trust pilot reviews (the nine fake ones) I’m concerned I been scammed but lucky I paid with pay pal
There's no scam Lauren I get most of my kits from them with exactly the same process people get dramatic on reviews
Where does he ship from then the uk?
What's the specs of your battery?
I think your controller hold this bike back
52v 17.5a bike, any ebike can perform better with an upgraded controller but you're adding £300+ to the build and this goes quick enough for most people. I have upgraded controllers on 2 other ebikes but they cost a lot extra
12v 2ah 6amp Slower then a 🐌.LOL
I have a 2000w 52v 20ah 50bms it goes 49, 52 mph
Hello, I find your video great, I bought the same 2000w 48v controller wheel kit and 52v 17ah battery on aliexpress but it only goes up to 30 km / h I tried to change the maximum speed settings but it does not work
Dont put the speed-limit wire in
Or change the wheel size in the sttings.
my spokes keep coming loose on my 1500 w ebike battery is on a rack at back it wont fit frame any ideas welcome andy your videos are great to watch
With so many different riding conditions it’s good rule of thumb to routinely check and tighten your spokes. Very easy to do yourself. Tool is a couple of dollars. As far as the battery if unable to mount on frame like u say then have some type of secure cushiony mount. IMO batteries life might be shortened with all the shock from the bumps if mounted on rack. Welds can be broken. The perfect place is in the triangle but we work with what we have.
@@truckdedriver9193 Could you send a link to an example of "secure cushiony mount" :)
question, about what would be the weight difference between 3000w motor compared to a 2000w? would you consider the power difference a lot? should i go with 3000 w without even thinking about it? the 2000w seems like it really struggled up the hill, damn, i expected to crush it actually, is this the battery's fault not providing a lot of power?
i was wondering same thing about battery. i swear my 2kw motor at 52v lifepo4 fat tire. does better at hills than this.
Got to factor in this guy is pretty big and muscly, he wouldn't be light... Maybe different for average weight guy. I just order the same kit and im 105kg so i am not expecting peak performance up hills HAHA @@devlin2011
Enjoyed the video, great stuff! Can you tell me the battery specs? Volts, amps, wattage? Cheers!!! 👍🏻
He said what it was in the video.
That's why people complain about ebikes go by him at 17 plus miles an hour too fast be going by pedestrians. I didn't have my leg cut wide open because of an e-bike cutting too close to me at too high of the speed. I own any bike myself I'm very cautious about going around people only takes a second to f*** somebody up
Agreed, people doing that shit on video only stands give all us safe riders more bull sht restrictions
Struggles with the hills I’ve got a 250w bike and I fly up hills at 15mph
You wouldn't fly up these hills with no run up on 250w they are huge hills and long. Not without peddling hard, I wasn't hardly peddling
Hi mate, I bought this same kit from you but am having problems. Do you ever read your emails?
I don't have an email address for TH-cam, who did you email?
Nice electric vehicle. I would like to have it after I get my motorcycle license
Not very good on the hill , my set up is better and can manage a hill like that with no peddling!
Congratulations.
@@Pupenhausen thankyou
😂
uhh... okay.
What set up do you have? I want something that’s going to do about 40/45mph any recommendations
Total fail on he hill climbs…. Next
It's a direct-drive hub motor. What did you expect? And he didn't give the hill ANY run-up at all (if he had a running start, I guarantee you that thing would have shot up that hill). Frankly for a DD hub, it did well. Those things are NOT meant for hillclimbing from standstill, but high speeds on the flat. Mid-drive is for hillclimbing. For a DD hub to climb, you need to pedal a bit to get it going first.
@@necroticavalon5176 Wow, almost a year later to respond..what did I expect? Torque… I expect torque. Of course by now things may have improved slightly.
@@theunseen8054 Then your expectations were misplaced. You want torque, go mid-drive. I've ridden a Bosch CX ebike that puts this thing to shame on a hill, with only 250w, because it's mid drive and has hillclimb gearing. Or put a 72v battery on that hub. But as it is, it did pretty good, for what it is.