The 200AR is flat shooting, mild recoil, and the bullet has good sectional density. 200AR Bullet expands down to 1200fps. Barnes and Hornady don't expand below 1800fps. At 300yds 200AR is going 1245-55 fps as verified on Silver Mountain Electronic Targets. Std deviation was 7.6 for 20 rounds. Half moa vertical waterline at 300yds for 20 shots. Definitely a winner 🏆.
The problem with AR’s jamming is almost always to do with the gun and not the bullets. Sometimes with hollow points or soft points there can be issues but again, it’s usually gritty feed ramps or magazine feed lips not adjusted correctly. This bullet cycles smoothly out of all my AR’s but I’ve got mine all adjusted and feed ramps polished nicely.
@@2010GT500you’ll have to ask the manufacturer. But, the SAAMI maximum average pressure (map) for the .350 legend is 55k. Bear Creek would not advertise that’s its AR safe if the pressures didn’t meet SAAMI.
Custom Boutique ammo manufacturer out performs factory ammo. On behalf of all factory ammo manufacturers.... " I am shocked" lol ( sarcasm). I understand and support bear creek. Innovation and tech = profitability. What has me scratching my head is how they have not been caught up in a law suit because somebody used the " wrong bullet " or " hot loaded" bullet in the wrong fire arm platform in the heat of the moment. You don't think hornady/ remington/winchester cannot push the 450 above and beyond what the current factory ammo specs are running? I support all things gun/ ammo. But this has me scratching my head. Good, Better, Best, you be the judge. Happy Hunting.
The difference is all the major ammo manufacturers are trying to maximize profitability by reaching the masses and letting the niche stuff slide. Develop one load that does everything but at a reduced efficiency. Everything in guns and ammo has warning labels and there’s lot of opportunity to make a mistake with big manufacturers as well. Between +P loads, smokeless/blackpowder, etc, there’s warning labels everywhere. It’s not just boutique high velocity loads. That’s why they all have bold warning labels and high insurance premiums.
Let me re- frame my conversation. Saami spec is what seperates wildcat/custom loads from standard saami spec ( factory) ammunition. It is interesting hornady has not payed Saami ( nothing is free) to adjust specs to accomodate bolt action parameters. Yet bear creek can " just go for it", because they say its ok? I am not opposed to running ammo exceeding saami spec in my own rifles, for my sole use. Bottom line I believe is this. Hornady knows that 450 bush specs can be expanded but choose not to do so to sell " other options" , different calibers, etc. .... 2nd point.... is bear creek is not really pushing the envelope. They just know the actual specs that a 450 will handle in a bolt action. Or in this case the AR platform, by loading, and using innovative new bullet design. Nothing wrong with second point. It just is something reloaders have known for quite a while.
@@Trinitystillmyname I don’t know what Bear Creek is running for pressures compared to SAAMI. That would be a question for them and interesting to know.
Agreed. As always, excellent video. Look forward to the next ones. Appreciate the time you spent to reply. You don't have to. We all have busy lives. ... smashed the like button to help you out.
@@Trinitystillmyname It's really nothing new. We can look to the variety of 45-70 power levels, trapdoor, modern lever and ruger. Then we have 30-06 with a lot of modern loadings being totally unsafe for older firearms. We have 6 arc with 2 specs, one for AR and one for bolt action and I'm sure there are quite a few more examples. As far as I'm aware, saami spec is more of a guideline than an actual rule anyways, at the end of the day it's the responsiblity of bear creek or buffalo bore to function in the firearms they say it functions in while warning against what not to use it in.
The 200AR is flat shooting, mild recoil, and the bullet has good sectional density. 200AR Bullet expands down to 1200fps. Barnes and Hornady don't expand below 1800fps. At 300yds 200AR is going 1245-55 fps as verified on Silver Mountain Electronic Targets. Std deviation was 7.6 for 20 rounds. Half moa vertical waterline at 300yds for 20 shots. Definitely a winner 🏆.
According to Bear Creek Ballistics' website, at 300 yards the 200AR is going 1184 fps.
@2punish1 200AR ammo shot out of 2 bolt action rifles with 22" and 24" barrels hence the increased velocity.
Holy smokes. WAY TO GO!!! Can a sporting goods company in Canada order these??
I’m assuming they can. Have them get in touch with Bear Creek
Ready to order!
Myyyyy Windham thumper is hungry!!!!
Awesome!!!
are you going to make this projectile available for reloaders ??
I believe they have them available on their website. If not, email Bear Creek directly and they can help you out.
Does this bullet Jam? 450 ammo is funny in ar platform?
The problem with AR’s jamming is almost always to do with the gun and not the bullets. Sometimes with hollow points or soft points there can be issues but again, it’s usually gritty feed ramps or magazine feed lips not adjusted correctly. This bullet cycles smoothly out of all my AR’s but I’ve got mine all adjusted and feed ramps polished nicely.
What are the pressures? Is it safe to shoot in my Ruger AR556 450 bushmaster
Yes, the very first thing he says is “safe in all platforms”. The shortened ballistic tip also allows it to run in an AR
@@FullQuiverOutdoorsthat’s an opinion. What’s the pressure
@@2010GT500you’ll have to ask the manufacturer. But, the SAAMI maximum average pressure (map) for the .350 legend is 55k. Bear Creek would not advertise that’s its AR safe if the pressures didn’t meet SAAMI.
I just ordered one of these. Do you have any issues with it and does yours prefer a certain ammo?
I have a 454mag casul. Looking to get a marrige with a pistol and rifle either the 454mag or the 450 Bushmaster any help greatly appreciated
Make a round for 400 Legend!!
You just have to LOVE AMERICA. We have one more year then He it is GONE!!! VOTED OUT!!
Custom Boutique ammo manufacturer out performs factory ammo. On behalf of all factory ammo manufacturers.... " I am shocked" lol ( sarcasm). I understand and support bear creek. Innovation and tech = profitability. What has me scratching my head is how they have not been caught up in a law suit because somebody used the " wrong bullet " or " hot loaded" bullet in the wrong fire arm platform in the heat of the moment. You don't think hornady/ remington/winchester cannot push the 450 above and beyond what the current factory ammo specs are running? I support all things gun/ ammo. But this has me scratching my head. Good, Better, Best, you be the judge. Happy Hunting.
The difference is all the major ammo manufacturers are trying to maximize profitability by reaching the masses and letting the niche stuff slide. Develop one load that does everything but at a reduced efficiency.
Everything in guns and ammo has warning labels and there’s lot of opportunity to make a mistake with big manufacturers as well. Between +P loads, smokeless/blackpowder, etc, there’s warning labels everywhere. It’s not just boutique high velocity loads. That’s why they all have bold warning labels and high insurance premiums.
Let me re- frame my conversation. Saami spec is what seperates wildcat/custom loads from standard saami spec ( factory) ammunition. It is interesting hornady has not payed Saami ( nothing is free) to adjust specs to accomodate bolt action parameters. Yet bear creek can " just go for it", because they say its ok? I am not opposed to running ammo exceeding saami spec in my own rifles, for my sole use. Bottom line I believe is this. Hornady knows that 450 bush specs can be expanded but choose not to do so to sell " other options" , different calibers, etc. .... 2nd point.... is bear creek is not really pushing the envelope. They just know the actual specs that a 450 will handle in a bolt action. Or in this case the AR platform, by loading, and using innovative new bullet design. Nothing wrong with second point. It just is something reloaders have known for quite a while.
@@Trinitystillmyname I don’t know what Bear Creek is running for pressures compared to SAAMI. That would be a question for them and interesting to know.
Agreed. As always, excellent video. Look forward to the next ones. Appreciate the time you spent to reply. You don't have to. We all have busy lives. ... smashed the like button to help you out.
@@Trinitystillmyname It's really nothing new. We can look to the variety of 45-70 power levels, trapdoor, modern lever and ruger. Then we have 30-06 with a lot of modern loadings being totally unsafe for older firearms. We have 6 arc with 2 specs, one for AR and one for bolt action and I'm sure there are quite a few more examples. As far as I'm aware, saami spec is more of a guideline than an actual rule anyways, at the end of the day it's the responsiblity of bear creek or buffalo bore to function in the firearms they say it functions in while warning against what not to use it in.
Does this bullet Jam? 450 ammo is funny in ar platform?