450 Bushmaster Bear Creek Ballistics Gel Ammo Test

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    450 Bushmaster Bear Creek Ballistics 240 grain Copper ammo ballistics gel test using a Ruger American Ranch with 16 inch barrel.
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    All shots are fired from a distance of 100 yards to encompass the majority of common real world hunting scenarios.
    I will be shooting into 10% ballistics gel from www.clearballi... that has been calibrated to meet the FBI ballistics testing protocol.
    While ballistics gel isn’t an exact proxy for big game, small game, predators or defensive situations, it does provide a repeatable medium through which to test various bullets and ammunitions against each other.
    With each type of ammo tested I collect data on bullet penetration depth, bullet weight retention, bullet expansion, muzzle velocity and impact velocity.
    For reference, bullet expansion is measured at the widest expanded point using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Caliper.
    Bullet weight is measured using a calibrated Frankford Arsenal Digital Scale after having removed as much ballistics gel as possible from the expanded bullets.
    Muzzle velocity is measured using a Garmin Xero C1 Pro Chronograph. Impact velocity is a mathematical estimate.
    My goal with these ballistics gel tests is to provide hunters like you and I with the most objective information possible to help us make the best choice for our particular hunting situation.
    The results of these tests are my own and I cannot guarantee the same or similar performance on your part. The views and opinions expressed in this video are solely my own.
    All videos are filmed in a safe and controlled environment on a private range with all applicable safety precautions by a trained professional.

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  • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
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  • @stevenzagrodnik7243
    @stevenzagrodnik7243 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Our 5 man deer hunting party have been using 240HV for 3 yrs. 100yd zero, 2.5min up@200yds, and 7min up@300yds. Three shot group@300yds 1.75". Velocity 2590fps w 22" and 24" barrels; 1513fps@300yds verified with SMT E tgt..3 rifles are CVA Cascade XT rifle 22" bbl Burris xtr2 3-15 scope. Deer are DRT. 4gr loss is polymer tip. Try the 200HV@2806FPS verified w/Garmin Xero. Remember BCB expands down to 1100fps whereas Hornady CX and Barnes TSX expand 1800fps below that they pencil thru game with no expansion.

    • @ryanehlis426
      @ryanehlis426 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You should consider a 200 yard zero, I bet you can keep it within the heart/lung out to 250 yards without making any adjustments.

    • @stevenzagrodnik7243
      @stevenzagrodnik7243 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Doe frontal shot thru heart @200yds just held 5 inches high DRT
      I have moa scope reticle so holdovers no problem second nature. I shoot F class competition

  • @RayFortenberry-ry6tp
    @RayFortenberry-ry6tp 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Been using the BCB 225 grain 44 magnum version on Mississippi deer for a couple of years. Put down several and they perform very well. Would like to see those in a gel test but have to believe they would do well there also. I think they add considerable distance to the 44 magnum rifle. Do enjoy your ammo tests and Federal can thank you for selling me on their 165 grain fusion 30-06.

    • @DaveL9170
      @DaveL9170 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      HOTTY TODDY!!!!!

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad to be of service, thanks for watching!

    • @drakeslocum2564
      @drakeslocum2564 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fellow Mississippi guy here✋

    • @DaveL9170
      @DaveL9170 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@drakeslocum2564 HOTTY TODDY!

  • @unbalancedredneck5778
    @unbalancedredneck5778 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    How was the recoil?

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don’t remember, fairly stout I’m sure

    • @jasonshults368
      @jasonshults368 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      More than a 30-06, which will push a 220 to 2500 fps. Especially out of a light, short rifle.

  • @reconrc1787
    @reconrc1787 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Blackbutterfly is the ammo manufacturer i use now. I have tried just about all the 450bm loads they offer but the turbo tomahawk is some badass stuff. Give it a try and see what you think. Its not only stupid fast, its accurate. Thats the part that gets missed so often. Blackbutterfly has been making 450bm ammo for a while now. I also use their expanding subsonic 450bm ammo. In my AR15 450bm the "Screamer" is what i tend to shoot. Its so flat shooting for a 450BM and i get 1.5 inch groups at 100yards for 5 shots.

    • @edwardberns1341
      @edwardberns1341 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I also use the black butterfly ammo and it is awesome. Even the sub heavy weight puts holes in a bear the lung was actually hanging out the exit side hole. The turbo and hex for deer are awesome as well.

  • @garrettschienschang7898
    @garrettschienschang7898 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Don’t own a 450 but with how good these reviews have been I may need to look into them for the caliber I do own

  • @Snailz5
    @Snailz5 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is what happens when you take a cartridge that has a really watered down max pressure and push it to the limits common sense says should be safe in strong actions. 450 BM is watered down on max pressure even compared to most other AR cartridges and most manufacturers load to the that low spec instead of loading a bespoke load for strong actions now that bolt and break actions are widely used for hunting. Unless you needed to take follow up shots, 450 BM was weaker than a modern inline muzzleloader. Now that it’s been allowed to run to its potential, there’s real appeal to the cartridge. I can tell you deer bang flop or don’t go real far when you hit them with a Barnes or Hornady copper projectile going behind a stout load of BH209. Now 450 BM can do the same with even more range.

  • @stevenzagrodnik7243
    @stevenzagrodnik7243 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Recoil about same as 20ga pump shotgun. Had 12-14yr old kids try CVA Cascade XT rifle 24T bbl. No problem or scope bite. 5/8" group @100yds off Wiebags.

  • @robertjohnson8572
    @robertjohnson8572 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    On the website he says 23” barrel for full velocity. My 22” is doing about 2560 on a 30 degree day

  • @comingsoonfarms8135
    @comingsoonfarms8135 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Would love to see what the Black Butterfly Turbo Tomahawks perform after seeing this one. 250gr at 2,400fps puts them right there in this energy class.

  • @gregb.6682
    @gregb.6682 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The copper ammo offerings appear to be gaining traction. The standard version of Black butterfly tomahawk works well in the Ruger American Ranch 450 BM for whitetails. It satisfied my preference for extra expansion over excessive penetration performance..but just like ice cream has many flavors you need to sample a few to know what you like. Thank you for the useful content.

  • @kylekreider2173
    @kylekreider2173 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Please do 90 grain 243 nosler ballistic tip ammo.

  • @rangetime6779
    @rangetime6779 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great test! They also sell these bullets as a reloading component. I'm getting 2500 fps and 1 1/2" 5 shot groups at 100 yards.

  • @mcburcke
    @mcburcke 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great vid!! Good info on my favorite caliber. They don't call it "Thumper" for no reason!

  • @Dm87509
    @Dm87509 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Been waiting for this one 🎉

  • @MrProfchaos71
    @MrProfchaos71 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The test barrel for these is 22” so that’s your velocity loss.

  • @garrettstiles7808
    @garrettstiles7808 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Forget hunting rounds: these puppies would qualify for bear defense!

  • @StreetLight099
    @StreetLight099 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Mason-have you ever considered testing DRT ammo? They make lead free frangible rounds in 308, 30-06, and 300 win mag. All 175gr. It’s marketed as hunting ammo but I’m a little skeptical of the penetration because it’s frangible but Nathan Foster spoke highly of them in his article titled “how copper bullets can be inhumane”. I haven’t seen any popular gun/hunting channels test this brand yet.

  • @williamgaines9784
    @williamgaines9784 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    With a little scope tweaking, that should be a 200-225 yard sledgehammer. Not in my arsenal, but that ammo would be on its menu if it were. Their prices are a bit $$$, but my 500 S&W food costs about the same, so not outside the ordinary.
    I like the way you worked the bolt on that Ruger, pigs somewhere are quaking in their hooves.😊

  • @EricChmelarsky
    @EricChmelarsky 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yea, seating the bullet out farther, making room for more powder. Makes for go faster. I do like the 16" bbl. Gen I for Hunting from ground blinds and stands. Ive got a 20" Ruger Gen II, Savage 110 Haymaker, gotta see what I can get velocity wise, from the longer barrels.

  • @mikesauer7775
    @mikesauer7775 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Makes me have thoughts of trading in my 444 marlin. Ammo is only available before deer season. .430 dia rifle bullets, not pistol bullets,are hard to come by. 450 Bush master is looking more attractive.

  • @ThomasGates-oc6lj
    @ThomasGates-oc6lj 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I see I a lot of your videos you use vortex gross II scopes. What is your thoughts on the scope, would it make a good hunting scope?

    • @masonoutdoors_masonleather
      @masonoutdoors_masonleather  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s a fine entry level scope for if that’s all you’re budget allows for. I use them on my test rifles because they’re inexpensive but good enough and have a forever warranty. I have several (I think 3 or 4 at least) and have yet to have any issues with them. That said, my primary hunting rifles all have Leupold or Swarovski scopes.

    • @ThomasGates-oc6lj
      @ThomasGates-oc6lj 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, I primarily use Leupold on my hunting rifles too, but I have a 9 year old daughter who wants to start hunting so I want to set her up with something good, but that is not too expensive.

  • @slowguy66
    @slowguy66 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could You make a cross draw single action revolver holster?

  • @rickwebster9549
    @rickwebster9549 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great bullets i love them they hammer deer. Glad you did the video thanks

  • @richki.24
    @richki.24 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think I found a new round for my 450BM rifle , thanks for reviewing this ...

  • @UI_Shaggy05
    @UI_Shaggy05 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Federal premium 300gr cast core 44 mag

  • @allthingsconsidered3211
    @allthingsconsidered3211 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    250gr should be pushing 2900fps. seems slow

  • @Dm87509
    @Dm87509 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video I'm definitely wanting this for my gen 2 ruger just hope it likes it

  • @RobertSmith-ub6tk
    @RobertSmith-ub6tk 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great ammo but just wait too expensive

  • @ronjones1414
    @ronjones1414 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    no replacement for PSI!!

  • @glennllewellyn7369
    @glennllewellyn7369 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice.

  • @_Steve_W
    @_Steve_W 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think one if the most important features for hunting ammo is repeatability. These rounds seem to perform the same each time. A round that varies a lot from shot to shot is a bad hunting load. These seem awesome. Thanks Mason 👍

  • @GeneralObeseus
    @GeneralObeseus 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would love to see the 6.8 Western at some point!

  • @SteveChishamSr
    @SteveChishamSr 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want to try these

  • @spyder2782
    @spyder2782 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am interested in the ar version

  • @Paul-q3m7k
    @Paul-q3m7k 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That’s a good load .

  • @aaronwilcox6417
    @aaronwilcox6417 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stellar

  • @mxpxmtb
    @mxpxmtb 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Been waiting for this one!

  • @TODinWY
    @TODinWY 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How about posting what you paid for the test ammo.

  • @BuckeyeBallistics
    @BuckeyeBallistics 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Should be good enough for moose & grizzly 🤔