No problem bro. Glad it’s useful. I personally leave it on probably for the best I don’t think I’m skilful enough and not risking the perfectly brand new bike.
Excellent demonstration of the operation of the HSTC. I will have my new CB650R Neo Sports Cafe soon and have been reading about this feature. You show us very clearly the moments where it works. Great video! Thanks!
Traction control on my XMax saved me a few times. It's not about the power of the engine, it's more about road condition, so I would say all bikes should have it.
I find it scary when it first kicked in my first instinct was thinking there was something wrong. Cos I was used to sliding on the monster. But yea it kicked in pretty instantly.
@@RUBBERNMETAL not even how fast it kicked in but just how fast it stood the bike upright! The times the HSTC kicks in on mine is the same experience - 1 accelerating too hard on slippery/wet surfaces and 2 accelerating too hard when turning from a stop (like taking a right hand turn off after a red light). I like how they tuned the traction control, it really only kicks in if it's supposed to. ✌️
@@vintagerealityvr ahh I’ve had my Ducati monster do a slight drift while getting out of a right hand junction on a rainy day. No fun man! I’m grateful for the HSTC too leaving them on is for the best.
i think this stuff saved me a couple times... :D I ride in winter too (when its above freezing point of course) and the roads are so slippery and at high rpms the back wheel always want to spin out
Thanks bro! I’m buying this bike and I wasn’t sure how effective the traction control would be. Looks like it can definitely save you from disaster. I wish the wheelie control was separate from the TC though.
Congrats on your bike again! Yea the traction control is not sophisticated as it only cuts you in abruptly but sometimes simple is good as it won’t go wrong. Wheelie control? Nah you don’t need it for this bike it won’t pull a wheelie unless you really mean it.
@@intoxu1946 ahh ok i dig the new grey colour. If I’m not mistaken you posted on the Cb650r group about your bike recently... could be a different person tho. Anyways have fun breaking in the bike and ride safe too!
No problem. Yes that’s true it’s a safety net in case of anything and I can imagine the tech’s appeal to newer riders who want to get onto bigger machines.
Yeah, first time it activated on mine it was quite scary. Its not very smooth because our bike is not ride by wire. That's why the quickshifter is up only, and why it doesnt have any cruise control. But in the 3000km i've done on mine it has saved me more than once. Some of the roundabouts where I live are very polished, and slippery. It also works nice when encountering debris like sand or gravel. In my opinion, every bike should have it. It has actually saved my ass more times than ABS has.
Hi there glad to hear your experience and how it has been useful for you. It’s not a sophisticated setup but it’s useful enough to save us from sticky situations glad to have it. For me it has activated when I glide over potholes tho which is a weird sensation. Straight reaction is “is my bike broken?” 😂
I hate that toggle, TBH. I keep hitting it when I'm going for the clutch, especially in bad weather when I'm wearing thicker gloves. Which is exactly when you'd want TC not to be accidentally switched off.
i Experienced the same thing two days ago, accidental wheelie on a green light , i was a bit enthousiastic when the green light went on and the HSTC kicked to counteract my optimistic twist of the wrist !
@@RUBBERNMETAL 😄Yep ! i was so worried i stopped and searched for something unusual on the bike before realising the HSTC may have been involved since i thought i spotted a light flashing on the dashboard.
@@shosholozabalafon2436 yea it’s just the bike doing it’s thing. I get it nowadays from skipping over potholes or running over sand while accelerating. It gets better once you get used to it.
I've put 20,000 km on my CB650R. Always disable Traction control. Rode on road, wet, rain, semi-off roads, track, never had problem. Sure, I slipped rear wheel a few times in deep lean cornering / U turns, but good delicate throttle hand saved me every time You should test ride a Trident 660 when it comes available later and compare
I don't think the bike would be difficult without traction control its not that powerful. The default setting is on so I don't bother touching it. Small slides are exciting sometimes I get you and yes I'll try and test the Trident once it arrives at our local dealers.
Hello, SG fella here. Got my license just before the lockdown. So I never got the chance to ride into msia. Just wanna know how do you prevent motorcycle theft in msia? SG too safe, our street smart not very high hahaha
Hi there. No worries big bike theft is not an issue in Malaysia (happens but very rarely) thieves tend to go for the higher range kapcais. The thieves however love to steal brake calipers and brake pumps so the best is to avoid leaving bikes with brembo or high end brake equipment in dodgy areas. Your best deterrents in this case are alarmed caliper brake locks and caliper lock nuts.
I’m in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Thanks there are some nice roads to ride on especially the paid toll roads (but it’s free for bikes 😎). You too stay safe!
Hi there, even as an experienced rider, I'd leave it on (it's on by default everytime you turn on the bike). Its additional safety and doesn't intrude you unless you plan to do silly things like wheelies and slides.
Hey bro. I bought it from a Malaysian website but I found this one on Ali express looks exactly the same from the photos. Here you go. a.aliexpress.com/_mM3PNrF
I’m not too sure. I plan to replace the stock tires with Bridgestone s22 soon and I think I’ll be leaving the traction control on probably for the best. If you’re skilful enough to ride it on the edge of the grip limit and slide then you can turn it off but I’m not at that level yet.
@@shukri1088 you have a lot of choice. For sports riding and daily commute you can go for Pirelli Diablo Rosso III, Bridgestone Battlax S22, or Michelin Pilot Power 5. For long distance, touring and daily you can try Michelin Pilot Road 5. For track and only sports riding maybe the Pirelli Rosso Corsa II. Those are some tires that are best it all depends on your riding style and need.
It has a cable throttle, so the only real way to implement traction control is either cutting the fuel or cutting the ignition. Can't make that smooth ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'll take that over electronic throttle though
Yea I love the fact that there’s only 1 power mode and that means you know the real bike rather than adjust to some modes. Can’t complain too much about the traction control it has got me out of trouble a few times.
@@RUBBERNMETAL I like the idea of a tunable throttle responce in principle, but the trouble is once you add compute cycles to the process you just add latency. A cable throttle, sensitive though it may be, is immediate. It's like your right hand is directly connected to the seat. It's direct and precise, and it allows you to get very precise. You just don't get that with electronic setups ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yea true that. I used to powerslide around on my ducati monster on the slippery surface after a rainy day. Even with used to doing that I’m not prepared to turn off the TC on the Honda haha 😂
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Thanks, brother! I haven’t touched the traction control on my CB650R. Haven’t really understood what it does. Thanks!!
No problem bro. Glad it’s useful. I personally leave it on probably for the best I don’t think I’m skilful enough and not risking the perfectly brand new bike.
@@RUBBERNMETAL how much if convert to Malaysian ringgit
@@xuanmohamed8441 how much for what ya bro? Let me know.
Nice. I was looking for a video of the CB 650R traction control in action. Thank you for showing me with multiple angles and all.
Thanks for your comment and glad you find the video useful. Ride safe!
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the real-life experience on HSTC.
Thanks for your comment! Glad you find the video useful.
Great to see traction control in action. Thanks for sharing this
No problem glad you enjoyed it. It’s my first bike with traction control so I was really intrigued by it.
Excellent demonstration of the operation of the HSTC. I will have my new CB650R Neo Sports Cafe soon and have been reading about this feature. You show us very clearly the moments where it works. Great video! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Excited for your new bike hope it’s a 2021 with updated features. Ride safe!
Trust me the traction control on my cb650r saved my life several times
Oh man... glad it did. In what situation did it save you? My habit it to Leave them turned on by default.
Saved me on a right turn hit some dirt almost fell off I felt the rear tire sliding but also the TC working to keep my body and the bike up right
Traction control on my XMax saved me a few times. It's not about the power of the engine, it's more about road condition, so I would say all bikes should have it.
That’s great to hear. Yea sand and loose gravel would be something that requires the TC. No Michelin/Bridgestone can save us from that.
It's amazing in the first video of how fast traction control stands up a bike. I've never seen it in slow motion like that
I find it scary when it first kicked in my first instinct was thinking there was something wrong. Cos I was used to sliding on the monster. But yea it kicked in pretty instantly.
@@RUBBERNMETAL not even how fast it kicked in but just how fast it stood the bike upright! The times the HSTC kicks in on mine is the same experience - 1 accelerating too hard on slippery/wet surfaces and 2 accelerating too hard when turning from a stop (like taking a right hand turn off after a red light). I like how they tuned the traction control, it really only kicks in if it's supposed to. ✌️
@@vintagerealityvr ahh I’ve had my Ducati monster do a slight drift while getting out of a right hand junction on a rainy day. No fun man! I’m grateful for the HSTC too leaving them on is for the best.
i think this stuff saved me a couple times... :D I ride in winter too (when its above freezing point of course) and the roads are so slippery and at high rpms the back wheel always want to spin out
Thanks bro! I’m buying this bike and I wasn’t sure how effective the traction control would be. Looks like it can definitely save you from disaster. I wish the wheelie control was separate from the TC though.
Congrats on your bike again! Yea the traction control is not sophisticated as it only cuts you in abruptly but sometimes simple is good as it won’t go wrong. Wheelie control? Nah you don’t need it for this bike it won’t pull a wheelie unless you really mean it.
Very useful. I'm a new rider, and the cb650r is my 1st bike, so I always wondered in which kinds of situations I'd need the traction control.
Thanks for the comment and congratulations on your awesome purchase. Hope you got the 2021 model with the new updates.
@@RUBBERNMETAL indeed I did! Got the pearl smoky grey one. Still breaking into it, and it's hella fun! Ride safely!
@@intoxu1946 ahh ok i dig the new grey colour. If I’m not mistaken you posted on the Cb650r group about your bike recently... could be a different person tho. Anyways have fun breaking in the bike and ride safe too!
@@RUBBERNMETAL why 2021?
@@outlook507 because when i made that comment in 2021. Hence that was the latest then.
Maybe it's not neccessary but it's better to have it than not. Thanks for showing this.
No problem. Yes that’s true it’s a safety net in case of anything and I can imagine the tech’s appeal to newer riders who want to get onto bigger machines.
Thank for sharing this, very useful!!
No problem glad you enjoyed it! Stay safe!
Yeah, first time it activated on mine it was quite scary.
Its not very smooth because our bike is not ride by wire. That's why the quickshifter is up only, and why it doesnt have any cruise control.
But in the 3000km i've done on mine it has saved me more than once. Some of the roundabouts where I live are very polished, and slippery. It also works nice when encountering debris like sand or gravel.
In my opinion, every bike should have it. It has actually saved my ass more times than ABS has.
Hi there glad to hear your experience and how it has been useful for you. It’s not a sophisticated setup but it’s useful enough to save us from sticky situations glad to have it.
For me it has activated when I glide over potholes tho which is a weird sensation. Straight reaction is “is my bike broken?” 😂
Kudos to all your blog i really enjoyed and very informative i love it! 👍👍👍
Thanks my friend! I’m glad you enjoy them.stay safe!
I hate that toggle, TBH. I keep hitting it when I'm going for the clutch, especially in bad weather when I'm wearing thicker gloves. Which is exactly when you'd want TC not to be accidentally switched off.
Yea man!! That’s true. Sometimes I wonder when I switched the tc off to only realise that it’s accidental due to wearing thicker gloves.
i Experienced the same thing two days ago, accidental wheelie on a green light , i was a bit enthousiastic when the green light went on and the HSTC kicked to counteract my optimistic twist of the wrist !
Haha did you think “shit somethings wrong with my bike” for a moment?
@@RUBBERNMETAL 😄Yep ! i was so worried i stopped and searched for something unusual on the bike before realising the HSTC may have been involved since i thought i spotted a light flashing on the dashboard.
@@shosholozabalafon2436 yea it’s just the bike doing it’s thing. I get it nowadays from skipping over potholes or running over sand while accelerating. It gets better once you get used to it.
I've put 20,000 km on my CB650R. Always disable Traction control. Rode on road, wet, rain, semi-off roads, track, never had problem.
Sure, I slipped rear wheel a few times in deep lean cornering / U turns, but good delicate throttle hand saved me every time
You should test ride a Trident 660 when it comes available later and compare
I don't think the bike would be difficult without traction control its not that powerful. The default setting is on so I don't bother touching it. Small slides are exciting sometimes I get you and yes I'll try and test the Trident once it arrives at our local dealers.
thanks for the explanation
No problem sir!
Hello, SG fella here. Got my license just before the lockdown. So I never got the chance to ride into msia. Just wanna know how do you prevent motorcycle theft in msia? SG too safe, our street smart not very high hahaha
Hi there. No worries big bike theft is not an issue in Malaysia (happens but very rarely) thieves tend to go for the higher range kapcais. The thieves however love to steal brake calipers and brake pumps so the best is to avoid leaving bikes with brembo or high end brake equipment in dodgy areas. Your best deterrents in this case are alarmed caliper brake locks and caliper lock nuts.
What helmet cam is this ? Looks great !!! Is it the Sena ?! Cam + mic are great !!! Keep it up. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the compliment bro!
Btw I’m using a Sony HDR AS300 but connected to a mic that is supposed to be for my Bluetooth headset (VIMOTO V8).
This is excellent.
Please be careful when you're narrating and driving simultaneously. Maybe it's just how i feel when I ride.🙏
Thanks buddy. Actually behind the scenes is a lot of retakes and repeats. I only took what I think is the best one.
Where are you? The roada look great, stay safe!
I’m in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Thanks there are some nice roads to ride on especially the paid toll roads (but it’s free for bikes 😎). You too stay safe!
@@RUBBERNMETAL thanks
I'm getting this bike as a new rider, so turning it on it's safer and better?
Hi there, even as an experienced rider, I'd leave it on (it's on by default everytime you turn on the bike). Its additional safety and doesn't intrude you unless you plan to do silly things like wheelies and slides.
Can you put link to side mirrors?
Hey bro. I bought it from a Malaysian website but I found this one on Ali express looks exactly the same from the photos. Here you go.
a.aliexpress.com/_mM3PNrF
Even a 125cc can benefit from traction control
Hey ! Nice gloves 👌🏽
Thanks dude! they're Dainese air something... best gloves I've owned so far.
This factories tyres very slippery..good use traction control..how about if use good tyres😊😊😊
I’m not too sure. I plan to replace the stock tires with Bridgestone s22 soon and I think I’ll be leaving the traction control on probably for the best. If you’re skilful enough to ride it on the edge of the grip limit and slide then you can turn it off but I’m not at that level yet.
Hehe same with me..😊😊😊..I want replace my tyres too but I don’t know what tyres I want use..coz I not study ..I newbie for this bike..
@@shukri1088 you have a lot of choice. For sports riding and daily commute you can go for Pirelli Diablo Rosso III, Bridgestone Battlax S22, or Michelin Pilot Power 5. For long distance, touring and daily you can try Michelin Pilot Road 5. For track and only sports riding maybe the Pirelli Rosso Corsa II. Those are some tires that are best it all depends on your riding style and need.
RUBBER N METAL tq bossku tuk info nie..nty kita cari..
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Are Honda CB650R come with quickshift ?
Not by default. It can be purchased separately not expensive tho.
how much for the installation quick shifter bro.
@@xuanmohamed8441 if you buy from Big Wing it’s around RM1.1k. you can get it slightly cheaper elsewhere or if you import it yourself from webike.
It has a cable throttle, so the only real way to implement traction control is either cutting the fuel or cutting the ignition. Can't make that smooth ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'll take that over electronic throttle though
Yea I love the fact that there’s only 1 power mode and that means you know the real bike rather than adjust to some modes. Can’t complain too much about the traction control it has got me out of trouble a few times.
@@RUBBERNMETAL I like the idea of a tunable throttle responce in principle, but the trouble is once you add compute cycles to the process you just add latency. A cable throttle, sensitive though it may be, is immediate. It's like your right hand is directly connected to the seat. It's direct and precise, and it allows you to get very precise. You just don't get that with electronic setups ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
cool so slick surfaces good idea.. all else. off lol
Yea true that. I used to powerslide around on my ducati monster on the slippery surface after a rainy day. Even with used to doing that I’m not prepared to turn off the TC on the Honda haha 😂