I have mine since 2015, and I love it! Always kept the maintenance from the dealer! They do a great job keeping my jeep running like factory new. Never had any problems or issues with it! Only routine maintenance and normal wear and tear, what i mean about that! is New brakes, tires and oil changes. Good luck with yours!
As a current Crosstrek owner, it’s definitely nice to hear the positive feedback on going to a willys. Definitely a possible thing I’ll pull the trigger on next year. 🙏🏽
Good honest review… I’m thinking on a Willys, been looking at Jeeps for a couple of years but haven’t moved forward due to life… Thought I needed a Rubicon but lately I’m thinking the Willys would do just fine considering I’m not going to be rock crawling or mud bogging.
Thank you! It sounds like you are thinking along the same lines I was when I got mine. A Rubicon would be awesome, but I really don't need the extra off road ability and didn't use my 05 Rubicon to anywhere near its potential and so far the Willys has been more than enough. I figure down the road I could always add a locker if needed.
I have the exact same 2021 Jeep. I drove it from Tampa to Indianapolis and back with no issues. Just went over 3,209 miles. I averaged about 19.3 to 19.7 mpg driving roughly 75mph in most parts. I put 91 or above octane in it. My tires are at 36psi and I didn’t notice any steering issues other than the wind blowing it around. It does have some pep with the 2.0 turbo. No issues accelerating on the highway, even cruising at higher speeds. Love your videos, thanks for posting.
Thanks so much Matt. Great to hear your Jeep is doing great! You are the second one to respond that is running at 36psi so I'm definitely going to try it. Thanks for posting.
Nice video...on my 2020 Willy's JLU, I'm running each tire at 36 PSI as that was set by the dealer, and so far have not noticed any steering issues (12,080 miles on my Willy's), but I'll pay attention and see if I notice anything. I have the 2.0L, and have been averaging about 25 MPG with summer fuel, and 23 MPG in with winter fuel in Washington State, although on a 3,680 mile road trip, I averaged 27.1, using Chevron Premium. I'm so far very happy with my Jeep and really have not had any issues with it, and tomorrow (Dec 18 2020) will be the one year anniversary of when I bought the jeep!
Very nice! Thank you for posting and for sharing your experience so far. Sounds like the little turbo is doing a nice job on the mileage and great to hear you have not had any issues so far. Happy one year and thank you for watching. I will give the 36 psi a try and see if it helps at all.
Really enjoying your Jeep videos as I have a 2021 Willys JLU on order and appreciate your insight as you are answering a lot of my initial questions - appreciated! Oh - and nice Jeep!! 👍👍
I took the speaker mesh covers off of the overhead speakers and realized most of the torque headed bolts were loose. Had one that was completely out. Maybe the rattle sound. It corrected the little rattles I was having.
Hi i Kathy, congratulations! Yes, easy to see out all around. So far after about a year and a 1/2 and over 10k miles I still love the Jeep. Great stuff. Let me know what you think when it comes in and thank you for watching.
I just got a '21 Jeep Wrangler Willys Sport. I had the same intermittent rattle with my 3 piece Freedom Top. After a lot of investigation on my part and the part of the dealership, I just found the true cause the other day. It was the 1 inch plastic guide nub next to the driver side door. I wrapped some electrical tape around it, and the rattle is now completely gone!
Hi Rick, nice to hear from you! Glad you are enjoying you Jeep. I have 6800 miles on my Crosstrek and just got it inspected last week for the upcoming year here in PA. We just had a major snow storm yesterday into early today. Some areas in PA and NY got up to 48 inches of snow, Bingham, NY for instance. We were in the 6-10 inch zone but only got 6 inches in my town. It has gotten cold, down to the teens tonight but at least the wind has subsided. If the wind was like yesterday and night it was almost like a blizzard, it would feel like zero! It was brutal! Well hope you and your family have a great Christmas and healthy New Year!!!
Hi Dave, great to hear from you and glad the Crosstrek is still doing well. Hard to believe you still have less that 10K miles so far. :) You were right when you said I would catch up to you in the Jeep awhile back. Sounds like you all had quite a snow storm!!! Stay warm my friend. Hope the it warms up a bit for you the next few days. We have been in the low 30's in the mornings, but in the 60's during the day so not bad at all. Merry Christmas to you and your family as well Dave, and thank you very much. Happy New Year.
I just ordered the 2 door Willys in granite with the 6 speed. Got the dual door group. Cant wait. Should have it by June. It’s been about 13 years since I had my TJ and I’m excited to be back in the club. Great video!
Bought a 2021 willys. The tires desire off-road. Lowering the pressure does help. The unsung hero of this model is the suspension. You can be on a perfect paved road and struggle with steering, then hit railroad tracks/pot holes and feel nothing. It is the perfect platform to build your dream Jeep. I use it mostly for everyday driving and it does just fine. Not the best highway Jeep, not the best off-road Jeep. Definitely not a mall crawler, not quite a rubicon though.
You summed her up pretty perfect Tom! Nice. Still enjoying mine now after almost a year, a few off roads trips, a few highway trips and normal daily driving. I have a few noises from the 2 top pieces in the front and they still haven't figured out my driver's side door area noise, but all in all its a nice vehicle with tons of capability. Have fun
“The winter here”...oh brother. Bring that Willys to the Northeast and visit us in the snow 😂 Glad that you are still enjoying the Jeep. Merry Christmas Rick and family. Cheers!
LOL. Just read your comment to my wife and she started laughing like crazy. She is from Wisconsin. Anything under 60 degrees is Winter Deb, didn't you know that. :) LOL My love to you two. I retire next year and will be traveling so you may just see the Willys in person. Merry Christmas to you too and thank you!
@@AZdroptop So glad to give wife a giggle. We have plenty of room for your visit. A mile from the beach and just about half way between NYC and Boston. Cathy can show you her new scroll saw 😉
I also have a Willy's and had a rattle. It was the visor rattling on mine. Easy test is to lower the visor next time you hear it and see if it stops. If it does, you can get little rubber stoppers
Thank you Thomas, no complaints with the Jeep. It has been great so far. Just turned 12K miles. I have a video I need to get out on the Jeep and hope to do it very soon. Life has been really busy of late. Best of luck.
I enjoyed your video, especially since I did the same thing. Went from a 2013 XV that i love to a 2021 Willys. My daughter is driving the XV since we couldn't part with it. 1000k on the Willys and so far do good.
Love your video's and channel! I too bought another vehicle....a 2020 Ford Ranger super-cab Lariat. My mother passed away in June and the Crosstrek wouldn't do it, that is, trying to clean out her house before the sale. I hated trading it in on the Ford, but I still have a four wheel drive vehicle. I do love the Ranger! Keep up the good work! Cheers!
Hey there! Great to hear from you and congrats on the new Ranger. Nice choice. I have always been partial to Ford as my first car was a Mustang. Sorry to hear about your mom passing...It is never easy even if it is expected. Take care and have fun.
Yep, agreed. If you're wanting to go more off-road than gravel/dirt roads, it's better to have a true off-roader. Glad you're liking the Jeep. If I wanted to do more than just blasting down gravel roads, or hooning around my neighborhood when it snows, I would probably be waiting on my new Bronco to be delivered.
The tires themselves made it wander when I test drove the Wrangler. I tried 4 different willys then a sport. The tires made a huge difference. I’m still deciding if I should trade my tundra for the Jeep. If I do get the Jeep I want the willys edition.
Thank you for the tip Steve. Unfortunately I have checked it and it is not the culprit. It seems now to come and go out of the blue and is definitely in the door. Not sure if something is loose and rolls around now and then? Or if it is the latch, window etc. I need to make an appointment to get it figured out.
Hey man how are you? I can't remember now what the first oil change was on the 18?? I think I went in around 3,000 but can't remember at this point. :) Hope all is well and good to hear from you.
I got a 2021 2 doors Willy last September and it’s scary sometime in the highway, the same steering wheel issue. I am about to get the 2022 Willys 4 door, I couldn’t get used to the two door. Sometimes I missed my 2013 WRX
Thanks Rick. Why the Willys Trim vs the other 12? Your color combo is exactly what my wife would choose, which is kinda the reason I'm here. She's looking for something similar to the '04 Pathfinder we had and she has her "mid-life" Jeep itch. What packages did you add to the Willys Sport? Is there any "must-have" option like the lighting or the tow package? We're in OH so the cold wx pkg is a no brainer...cheers.
The main reason I chose the Willys package was the extra off road ability over some of the others. Better gearing in the back, Rubicon shocks, 31 inch AT tires with the 17" moab wheels, limited slip, LED light group etc. Mine also has a tow package -bigger battery, alternator and hitch upgraded stereo, and cold weather package. Here is a video showing all of the options. Best of luck to you guys, she will love it! th-cam.com/video/TjjG5ZIRArk/w-d-xo.html
Hi John, it was a concern for me at first, but the more I have owned the Jeep it kind of fades into the background. I don't love it, but it isn't as bad on the highway as I thought it would be. I guess there is a new version of the steering damper that is steel instead of aluminum so I might see if Jeep will change mine out.
I think the Bronco is better on the road for sure. Independent suspension and all. Seems to have some issues off road, but if you are like me and don't get crazy off road then you/I, would never notice. I have not driven a Bronco yet, like the looks for the most part, especially the 2 door, but they are kind of big.
Thank you! Still have a bit of a rattle. I have not been back after they tightened the little roof latch as of yet. My thinking is the window may be part of the rattle, but I'm not sure. Hoping to get into the dealer again here soon. Best of luck with your purchase it is a lot of fun.
Hello, my name is Mason and my wife and I just sold her 2018 outback yesterday and are planning to get an unlimited Willy’s edition in December. I am a subscriber and have enjoyed your channel, thanks for the information. At this point in our lives, both in early 50’s, not sure the rubicon is right for us. The thought of rock crawling in a $60,000 rig doesn’t seem right. The Willy’s seems like the best bet so far and the packages you selected are the same we’re looking for, even the color-I think. Anyway, did you order yours directly from Jeep or was it in the dealerships inventory? We live in southern Oregon and I’m trying to decide the best place and way to purchase. I know I can find better prices outside of the area however, when it comes to maintenance or the jeep being worked on, it might be better to take it to the place we bought it locally. Any thoughts or advice? We will miss our outback, it is a great car but we’re looking for something more “purposeful” to use your word. Cheers, Mason. Ps. I tried to send an email but kept getting a “failure to send” response….
Hi Mason, I agree with you on the Rock crawling part. :) So far the Willys has been more than enough for what I have been up to and I think it has plenty of ability for what I want to tackle. Best of luck with your purchase and thank you very much for watching my videos. Happy to help if I can. I ended up ordering from a dealership up in Phoenix since they had the color I wanted and their pricing was better than others around here. I haven't had any issues using my local Tucson dealer and if you buy outside of your area you should be just fine. my email is azdroptopyt@cox.net
@@AZdroptop ...does the panel wiggle or move? If so, how much force do you have to apply to make it move? Could it be the top of the door/side glass? Have you tried a shim of some type in various places to see if it stops the rattle?
What do you do with the removable hard top if you remove it enroute? That and the rattle would make my decision to opt for the soft top.Would a butyl rubber tape be a solution to roof rattles? It seems to be used in the marine industry quite often.
Thank you! Honestly not sure which one I have, but they put a steering damper "on Order" over 6 months ago and still no sign of it. At this point I am really used to the feeling of it so no biggie. It hasn't changed or gotten worse so that is a positive.
i see you in this until oh, say the 3rd year of the Bronco LOL. idk i love jeeps. as a third vehicle i want a tj. I just don't trust FCA quality, and i don't trust jeep mechanics that work at dodge dealers or whatever. I mean, i'm not dogging all those that work there, but generally, the data backs up my sentiment. That being said, if you have the resources, those jeeps are really nice.
Hey Noel, we shall see how it goes :) FCA definitely does not have the best rep that is for sure. My 05 was solid for the 4 years I owned it, but that isn't a great sample. So far so good and fingers crossed. As for the Bronco I love what I have seen so far and as a Ford fan I hope they don't screw it up. LOL. They have let me down before. When are they hitting the streets?
I’ve not played around with the sky too at all. It looks cool but I’m not sure on the durability of it? The hard top is nice with the removable front panels, but is a bit of a chore getting on and off.
Do you feel like you should have gone with a Rubicon? I am looking at buying either the Willys like you have or a less optioned Rubicon. I plan on doing some off-roading but no rock crawling. Do you find yourself wishing you had the lockers? Thanks
Hey Dylan, at this point I don't have any regrets at all. I think the Willys offers a great package for daily use and doing some pretty decent trials when you are in the mood. I can see myself moving the tires from 31's to 33's or a 2 inch lift some point down the road, but otherwise I think it is just fine suspension wise. I am getting 20 mpg day to day and 22 or 23 on the freeway. I really liked my 05, but I only used the lockers a couple of times and the 410's were rough on mpg. Best of luck to you and let me know if you have other questions.
I have a 2021 Jeep Wrangler with sky one touch. I hear a rattle at like 50 mph from the wind going over the convertible top. From the metal bars that go side to side to hold the sky touch.
Mark, how do you like the sky top? Someone was asking me about them other day, but I have not had the chance to check them out yet. Has the dealer checked out your noise?
Love it. The noise is not every time but I only have 3,000 miles so not a chance to get to dealer. It’s not bad but the sky touch is new so I’ll give them my opinion. It’s just a clicking noise. From wind. Going over the top.
Very cool. Seems like a nice option to have. The 3 piece top has been nice for me since my last Jeep had a solid top and they are not exactly easy to put on and off. :) Having the 2 front panels out is a nice option. Have fun!
Hi Daniel, I have not had anything like death wobble with mine and actually just did a video on how the Jeep does on the highway. Link at the end. There is a slight vague feeling to the steering at speed sometimes...Hard to explain, but was noticeable more when I first bought the Jeep. I lowered my tire pressure and that has helped. If you watch the video I mentioned that I didn't notice it much on a recent 500+ mile trip. Jeep has ordered me a new steering damper, but they are on back order. th-cam.com/video/v9SVovVeNzM/w-d-xo.html
Rubicon starts around $42 and the Willys $38, Willys Sport $35. I'm' not really sure what the difference is between the sport and Willys? If you will not be doing a lot of difficult off roading the Willys should be work out great. If there is the potential for you to really get at it I would start with the Rubicon. 33's, lockers, 4 to transfer case, 410 gears etc. You get a lot for the money.
@@AZdroptop did you special order your willys or pick it off a dealer lot ? Sorry for all the questions, trying to figure out the best way to purchase a wrangler.
Hi Joel, I have the hothead headliners on it. I can't say that the noise difference is huge, but it does help a little bit. Takes away the echo or hollow sound from the cabin. They definitely help with blocking some of the radiating heat though...and they look good as well. Video on them:th-cam.com/video/ymB3AFIaSIg/w-d-xo.html
I know you said it’s quieter than the crosstrek, are the firestones annoying on the highway , i was looking between the altitude sport and the willys, just worried about the mud tire noise as i am not a avid off roader , but like the willys edition better. Thanks
Have to be honest so far the tires are just fine on the Highway. No drone, not loud etc. I do have only about 5K miles on them so far, but compared to the BFG's on my Crosstrek they make less noise for sure. That may change with miles, but for now I am pleasantly surprised.
Haa first time seeing your video.. Own willys 2021 wrangler unlimited 3.0 eco diesel... My 2015 xv crosstrek is currently in the shop with 170,000 miles getting new ( used) engine with 20k on it,, just waiting on subaru to come and flash the ecu before its on the road..,
I'm looking at buying a two door Wrangler,....2021. Looking at the Willy & the 80th Anniversary. My question is do you feel the Willy is extremely harsh on the highway? And do you feel the 80th would be better as far as that goes?
Hi Chad, I don't find the Jeep harsh on the highway at all. The only thing that I notice is the steering feel that I describe in the video...just a bit vague on center, no death wobble or anything crazy. I am used to it now and hardly notice it anymore. It seems like the 80th is based on the Sport S, but I didn't find mention of what shocks/springs it has so I'm not sure if it would be more comfortable on the highway. Other than some cosmetic stuff they seem similar to the Willys except for the shocks? Best of luck with your purchase!
@@AZdroptop Thanks SO MUCH for all the information! Do you feel the stiffer ride / suspension in the Willy makes for more control? I would totally give up a smooth ride for more control. I'm going from a Volkswagen GTI to a Wrangler. One last question, can you get the Full-time all wheel drive in the Willy's?
Chad, sorry for the delay...I do not believe the Willys has the full time AWD option, but I am not 100% sure on that. The rubicon shocks and the all terrain tires will definitely help when off road as will the limited slip differential outback. I think the Willys is a great all rounder for daily driving with a bit more ability off road with out going with the Rubicon. I have found the Willys to be a good daily driver with all the comfort and connection features you would want along with great visibility all around, plenty of power, and quieter than I thought it would be. Downsides are fuel economy and not as comfortable as a sedan would be, but you can take a sedan off road. :) The Jeep is also not the best choice if you are planning on doing long commutes as it is a bit more work to drive it at 75 mph. Best of luck and let me know if you have other questions...happy to help if I can.
@@AZdroptop You've been a big help! I live in the mountains of NC, my driveway is a half mile long (gravel). It's also steep with two hard switchbacks. I know the jeep will do the job. However, still have a few concerns,....I've been reading a lot about "Death Wobble", and I wonder if that is only happening to people who have heavily modified the suspension??? The other concern for me being my driveway has two switchbacks is something I'm reading about called "binding",..... Does this happen in 4 wheel high as well as low? This is the only reason I was thinking about getting Full-time AWD. And my last concern is where the heck can you find a 2 door 2021 Wrangler of any kind? LOL!!!! I've been on dealer lots all over NC as well as Florida. I'm finding nothing but Jeep Trucks. Thanks again!!
Do you think this is a good family car? I’m wanting a wrangler but I’m also thinking about starting a family in the next couple years so I keep going back and fourth with getting a wrangler
Hi Kailea, if you have an adventurous family then definitely! Having owned an 05 Jeep they have made great improvements on day to day livability and in my opinion it is a very easy vehicle to live with. Heated seats, steering wheel, good sized touch screen, auto start etc... Jeeps have all of that stuff now. Plenty of room on the inside for carseats and stuff. On the downside it isn't a great vehicle to travel long distances in if you are on the freeway doing 70 to 80mph for long stretches. It is fine, but does wander just a bit and not quite as easy as other SUV's. I have been getting 20 mpg around town and 23 combined so not terrible...the turbo motor does more like 23 to 25 mpg, but you have to use premium I believe. I think if you plan to do a good amount of off roading it is hard to beat, but if not, it may be better to look elsewhere. 4Runner's are amazingly capable off road and travel better over long distance. I am also a huge Subaru fan and they can do just fine off-road as well if you don't get too crazy. :)
My pleasure, happy to help if you have other questions. No, same size as the other 4 doors...just has a few more off road type options in the Willys package. Rubicon shocks, 31 inch off road tires and different gears in the rear end.
I just got my 1st Jeep yesterday. I want to love it but it seems out of control. The wheel wants to jump out of my hand. I cant stay in my lane and I cannot go above 58 on the highway, forget cross wind or semis. The speed limit here is 70 with all going way over that. We lowered the air pressure. Anything else I can try? We are trying to get into a different dealer to have it checked
Interesting...Definitely get it to the dealer and have them do a once over. Could be a bad tire, maybe the tires need balanced? Or it could be the common Jeep steering issue or issues. There were a lot of problems with the 18's and 19's, but supposedly it has been improved. My steering is a bit vague, but it tracks straight and does fine on the highway. Jeeps don't do great in the wind, but it sounds like you have something else going on beyond it just being a Jeep.
@@AZdroptop Thanks. It is going to a different dealership to be looked at. I hope they can fix it, I have wanted a Jeep my whole life but can’t drive afraid. Do you think lowering it might help also? It is up higher then I expected also.
Not sure lowering it would do anything, but depending on the model you bought tires might help? There are quite a few aftermarket things that are available to improve steering feel, but I am not familiar with them myself. Hopefully the dealer has an answer for you. Best of luck.
HI Gary, still have it going on. I believe it is still that left top panel and also the d/s window must be a little loose. I plan to have them address it when I go for my next oil change. Another poster mentioned their visor was their rattle so maybe check that. I will post a video once I get it sorted.
The rattle in the Freedom Panel is usually where the top pin slides in that hole next to the latch. I slapped some felt tape around the pin and it fixed the issue/squeak. 💪🏼🫵🏼🇺🇸
They have the hybrids jeeps plan go electric in the next few years will see I hope they take the time to work out all the bugs and get the technology right the first time I think they did very well with your hybrid jeep just a little out of my price range at this point but I would’ve bought one if it was in my price range
Your videos are great and so helpful! Would you recommend buying the sound strips and headliner separately instead of the headliner from the dealer? I am looking to buy the Willys and I am unsure of the quality from the dealer vs the hot head headliner with the sound strips. I definitely want to reduce the road noise as much as possible. Thanks again!
Thank you Mady, I appreciate your kind words. Honestly I have not seen the Mopar headliner up close and personal so I don't know for sure how good it is. I can tell you that the Hotheadheadliners have been great and did seem to make a difference reducing the echo inside the Jeep. They seem to help reduce heat inside as well. Best of luck with your purchase of a Willys.
Here is a thread from a Jeep forum that might help as well. www.wranglerforum.com/threads/mopar-headliner-vs-hothead-headliner.2264897/#:~:text=HotHead%20compared%20to%20Mopar%2C%20the%20Mopar%20is%20sooo,from%20our%20site%20and%20just%20move%20the%20HotHead.
I have a 2021 Willys, and they had my tire pressure around 42 when I bought it, I've dropped it to 36-37 and it's been fantastic.
Nice, thank you for the input Todd.odd.
I had the exact same experience with the same results. Much better now!
Great advice, i have the same I’ll give it a try !
I have mine since 2015, and I love it! Always kept the maintenance from the dealer! They do a great job keeping my jeep running like factory new. Never had any problems or issues with it! Only routine maintenance and normal wear and tear, what i mean about that! is New brakes, tires and oil changes. Good luck with yours!
Thank you!
As a current Crosstrek owner, it’s definitely nice to hear the positive feedback on going to a willys. Definitely a possible thing I’ll pull the trigger on next year. 🙏🏽
Thank you. I still love the Subie, but the Jeep has been a nice change and surprisingly easy to live with day to day.
Good honest review…
I’m thinking on a Willys, been looking at Jeeps for a couple of years but haven’t moved forward due to life…
Thought I needed a Rubicon but lately I’m thinking the Willys would do just fine considering I’m not going to be rock crawling or mud bogging.
Thank you! It sounds like you are thinking along the same lines I was when I got mine. A Rubicon would be awesome, but I really don't need the extra off road ability and didn't use my 05 Rubicon to anywhere near its potential and so far the Willys has been more than enough. I figure down the road I could always add a locker if needed.
I have the exact same 2021 Jeep. I drove it from Tampa to Indianapolis and back with no issues. Just went over 3,209 miles. I averaged about 19.3 to 19.7 mpg driving roughly 75mph in most parts. I put 91 or above octane in it. My tires are at 36psi and I didn’t notice any steering issues other than the wind blowing it around. It does have some pep with the 2.0 turbo. No issues accelerating on the highway, even cruising at higher speeds. Love your videos, thanks for posting.
Thanks so much Matt. Great to hear your Jeep is doing great! You are the second one to respond that is running at 36psi so I'm definitely going to try it. Thanks for posting.
Nice video...on my 2020 Willy's JLU, I'm running each tire at 36 PSI as that was set by the dealer, and so far have not noticed any steering issues (12,080 miles on my Willy's), but I'll pay attention and see if I notice anything. I have the 2.0L, and have been averaging about 25 MPG with summer fuel, and 23 MPG in with winter fuel in Washington State, although on a 3,680 mile road trip, I averaged 27.1, using Chevron Premium. I'm so far very happy with my Jeep and really have not had any issues with it, and tomorrow (Dec 18 2020) will be the one year anniversary of when I bought the jeep!
Very nice! Thank you for posting and for sharing your experience so far. Sounds like the little turbo is doing a nice job on the mileage and great to hear you have not had any issues so far. Happy one year and thank you for watching. I will give the 36 psi a try and see if it helps at all.
Really enjoying your Jeep videos as I have a 2021 Willys JLU on order and appreciate your insight as you are answering a lot of my initial questions - appreciated! Oh - and nice Jeep!! 👍👍
Hi Scott, thank you very much and congratulations. It is great to know the video are helpful to you. Best of luck with your Willys. Cheers.
I took the speaker mesh covers off of the overhead speakers and realized most of the torque headed bolts were loose. Had one that was completely out. Maybe the rattle sound. It corrected the little rattles I was having.
Thank you!
I am so glad to hear that the visibility is great. I ordered my Willy's and can't wait.
Hi i Kathy, congratulations! Yes, easy to see out all around. So far after about a year and a 1/2 and over 10k miles I still love the Jeep. Great stuff. Let me know what you think when it comes in and thank you for watching.
Nice video. I also bought a 2020 Wrangler and agree with your comments. It is a pleasure to both drive and to own.
Thank you!
I just got a '21 Jeep Wrangler Willys Sport. I had the same intermittent rattle with my 3 piece Freedom Top. After a lot of investigation on my part and the part of the dealership, I just found the true cause the other day. It was the 1 inch plastic guide nub next to the driver side door. I wrapped some electrical tape around it, and the rattle is now completely gone!
Awesome! Thank you. I’ll take a look and see what mine looks like.
Hi Rick, nice to hear from you! Glad you are enjoying you Jeep. I have 6800 miles on my Crosstrek and just got it inspected last week for the upcoming year here in PA. We just had a major snow storm yesterday into early today. Some areas in PA and NY got up to 48 inches of snow, Bingham, NY for instance. We were in the 6-10 inch zone but only got 6 inches in my town. It has gotten cold, down to the teens tonight but at least the wind has subsided. If the wind was like yesterday and night it was almost like a blizzard, it would feel like zero! It was brutal! Well hope you and your family have a great Christmas and healthy New Year!!!
Hi Dave, great to hear from you and glad the Crosstrek is still doing well. Hard to believe you still have less that 10K miles so far. :) You were right when you said I would catch up to you in the Jeep awhile back. Sounds like you all had quite a snow storm!!! Stay warm my friend. Hope the it warms up a bit for you the next few days. We have been in the low 30's in the mornings, but in the 60's during the day so not bad at all. Merry Christmas to you and your family as well Dave, and thank you very much. Happy New Year.
I just ordered the 2 door Willys in granite with the 6 speed. Got the dual door group. Cant wait. Should have it by June. It’s been about 13 years since I had my TJ and I’m excited to be back in the club. Great video!
Thank you! Congratulations! Great choice. It is really nice how easy this Jeep is to live with everyday.
Same 2 door Willys with the 6 speed and has been 15 years since my TJ. So happy to be back in the club.
32 psi on the M/T tires helps steering feel tremendously.
Thank you Mike much appreciated. I have not had them down to 32 yet, but will give it a try...still waiting on my new steering damper from the dealer.
@@AZdroptop That is cold tire pressure of course. I did this in my wife’s 2020 Willys and it did the trick.
Cool! Thank you again.
Nice 4K review. Looking at a ‘21Willis and this type of vid really helps. New sud, thanks again.
Thank you Earl. Great to hear it was helpful and I wish you the best. I am at over 7K now and still enjoying the Jeep very much.
Bought a 2021 willys. The tires desire off-road. Lowering the pressure does help. The unsung hero of this model is the suspension. You can be on a perfect paved road and struggle with steering, then hit railroad tracks/pot holes and feel nothing. It is the perfect platform to build your dream Jeep. I use it mostly for everyday driving and it does just fine. Not the best highway Jeep, not the best off-road Jeep. Definitely not a mall crawler, not quite a rubicon though.
You summed her up pretty perfect Tom! Nice. Still enjoying mine now after almost a year, a few off roads trips, a few highway trips and normal daily driving. I have a few noises from the 2 top pieces in the front and they still haven't figured out my driver's side door area noise, but all in all its a nice vehicle with tons of capability. Have fun
“The winter here”...oh brother. Bring that Willys to the Northeast and visit us in the snow 😂 Glad that you are still enjoying the Jeep. Merry Christmas Rick and family. Cheers!
LOL. Just read your comment to my wife and she started laughing like crazy. She is from Wisconsin. Anything under 60 degrees is Winter Deb, didn't you know that. :) LOL My love to you two. I retire next year and will be traveling so you may just see the Willys in person. Merry Christmas to you too and thank you!
@@AZdroptop So glad to give wife a giggle. We have plenty of room for your visit. A mile from the beach and just about half way between NYC and Boston. Cathy can show you her new scroll saw 😉
That sounds awesome! I have never been up that way. And congrats to Cathy on the new toy. Fun. :)
I also have a Willy's and had a rattle. It was the visor rattling on mine. Easy test is to lower the visor next time you hear it and see if it stops. If it does, you can get little rubber stoppers
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Great job - thanks. In the market now for the same Jeep plus the sky too one touch roof . Good luck!
Thank you Thomas, no complaints with the Jeep. It has been great so far. Just turned 12K miles. I have a video I need to get out on the Jeep and hope to do it very soon. Life has been really busy of late. Best of luck.
I enjoyed your video, especially since I did the same thing. Went from a 2013 XV that i love to a 2021 Willys. My daughter is driving the XV since we couldn't part with it. 1000k on the Willys and so far do good.
That’s awesome! The XV’s are great and I do miss mine now and then. Glad mine is still in the family too! Enjoy your new Jeep!
Lol same here. 2013 XV with 82,000 miles. Just ordered a 2021 2 door Willys 6 speed manual.
Love your video's and channel! I too bought another vehicle....a 2020 Ford Ranger super-cab Lariat. My mother passed away in June and the Crosstrek wouldn't do it, that is, trying to clean out her house before the sale. I hated trading it in on the Ford, but I still have a four wheel drive vehicle. I do love the Ranger! Keep up the good work! Cheers!
Hey there! Great to hear from you and congrats on the new Ranger. Nice choice. I have always been partial to Ford as my first car was a Mustang. Sorry to hear about your mom passing...It is never easy even if it is expected. Take care and have fun.
@@AZdroptop Thank you Rick! Will do! 😊
Yep, agreed. If you're wanting to go more off-road than gravel/dirt roads, it's better to have a true off-roader. Glad you're liking the Jeep. If I wanted to do more than just blasting down gravel roads, or hooning around my neighborhood when it snows, I would probably be waiting on my new Bronco to be delivered.
Well said! The new Bronco's look like they are going to be pretty sweet!
My first oil change in my 2021 Willys 2.0 Turbo was a complete engine change. Was without the truck for 2 1/2 months.
That doesn't sound good. What was wrong with the engine?
@@AZdroptop they said something??? Came loose….I’m not a mechanic but sounded like it was in the bottom on the motor.
Yikes. Sorry to hear that. Glad they took care of it at least!.
Thx for sharing the your experience.. hoping to pull the trigger on a 21.
You are welcome and thanks so much for watching and best of luck on buying a 21. Have you picked out a color yet?
Firecracker red or sting gray... I have always wanted one ... now is the time
Awesome colors. Hope it works out. Let me know what you end up with and have fun!
The tires themselves made it wander when I test drove the Wrangler. I tried 4 different willys then a sport. The tires made a huge difference. I’m still deciding if I should trade my tundra for the Jeep. If I do get the Jeep I want the willys edition.
Very cool. Best of luck with your choice. Tundra are excellent vehicles but the Jeep’s are a blast.
Check the sun visor for the rattle.
Thank you for the tip Steve. Unfortunately I have checked it and it is not the culprit. It seems now to come and go out of the blue and is definitely in the door. Not sure if something is loose and rolls around now and then? Or if it is the latch, window etc. I need to make an appointment to get it figured out.
Interesting. When I bought my 16 crosstrek I had to get a oil change at 1,000 miles then every 5,000 or 6 months after that.
Hey man how are you? I can't remember now what the first oil change was on the 18?? I think I went in around 3,000 but can't remember at this point. :) Hope all is well and good to hear from you.
I got a 2021 2 doors Willy last September and it’s scary sometime in the highway, the same steering wheel issue. I am about to get the 2022 Willys 4 door, I couldn’t get used to the two door.
Sometimes I missed my 2013 WRX
You will really like the 4 door.
@@AZdroptop
I can’t wait, I got an email yesterday with the VIN # almost almost
Nice! Congrats.
Thanks Rick. Why the Willys Trim vs the other 12? Your color combo is exactly what my wife would choose, which is kinda the reason I'm here. She's looking for something similar to the '04 Pathfinder we had and she has her "mid-life" Jeep itch. What packages did you add to the Willys Sport? Is there any "must-have" option like the lighting or the tow package? We're in OH so the cold wx pkg is a no brainer...cheers.
The main reason I chose the Willys package was the extra off road ability over some of the others. Better gearing in the back, Rubicon shocks, 31 inch AT tires with the 17" moab wheels, limited slip, LED light group etc. Mine also has a tow package -bigger battery, alternator and hitch upgraded stereo, and cold weather package. Here is a video showing all of the options. Best of luck to you guys, she will love it! th-cam.com/video/TjjG5ZIRArk/w-d-xo.html
I don't think I could live with that wandering steering on the highway.
Hi John, it was a concern for me at first, but the more I have owned the Jeep it kind of fades into the background. I don't love it, but it isn't as bad on the highway as I thought it would be. I guess there is a new version of the steering damper that is steel instead of aluminum so I might see if Jeep will change mine out.
Thanks for the information, I wonder if the bronco would be better?
I think the Bronco is better on the road for sure. Independent suspension and all. Seems to have some issues off road, but if you are like me and don't get crazy off road then you/I, would never notice. I have not driven a Bronco yet, like the looks for the most part, especially the 2 door, but they are kind of big.
hey love your video...im considering buying the willys2021...did your dealer end up finding the problem with the noise?!
Thank you! Still have a bit of a rattle. I have not been back after they tightened the little roof latch as of yet. My thinking is the window may be part of the rattle, but I'm not sure. Hoping to get into the dealer again here soon. Best of luck with your purchase it is a lot of fun.
Hello, my name is Mason and my wife and I just sold her 2018 outback yesterday and are planning to get an unlimited Willy’s edition in December. I am a subscriber and have enjoyed your channel, thanks for the information.
At this point in our lives, both in early 50’s, not sure the rubicon is right for us. The thought of rock crawling in a $60,000 rig doesn’t seem right. The Willy’s seems like the best bet so far and the packages you selected are the same we’re looking for, even the color-I think. Anyway, did you order yours directly from Jeep or was it in the dealerships inventory? We live in southern Oregon and I’m trying to decide the best place and way to purchase. I know I can find better prices outside of the area however, when it comes to maintenance or the jeep being worked on, it might be better to take it to the place we bought it locally. Any thoughts or advice? We will miss our outback, it is a great car but we’re looking for something more “purposeful” to use your word.
Cheers,
Mason.
Ps. I tried to send an email but kept getting a “failure to send” response….
Hi Mason, I agree with you on the Rock crawling part. :) So far the Willys has been more than enough for what I have been up to and I think it has plenty of ability for what I want to tackle. Best of luck with your purchase and thank you very much for watching my videos. Happy to help if I can.
I ended up ordering from a dealership up in Phoenix since they had the color I wanted and their pricing was better than others around here. I haven't had any issues using my local Tucson dealer and if you buy outside of your area you should be just fine. my email is azdroptopyt@cox.net
Rick, have you had water leak issues with the 3 piece top? Enjoy your videos. Thanks
Hi Herb, no leaking issues as of yet, but I still have a slight rattle on my front driver's side. Cheers.
@@AZdroptop ...does the panel wiggle or move? If so, how much force do you have to apply to make it move? Could it be the top of the door/side glass? Have you tried a shim of some type in various places to see if it stops the rattle?
What do you do with the removable hard top if you remove it enroute? That and the rattle would make my decision to opt for the soft top.Would a butyl rubber tape be a solution to roof rattles? It seems to be used in the marine industry quite often.
Great video... was ur steering box looked at? Or does yours have the iron(black) one?
Thank you! Honestly not sure which one I have, but they put a steering damper "on Order" over 6 months ago and still no sign of it. At this point I am really used to the feeling of it so no biggie. It hasn't changed or gotten worse so that is a positive.
i see you in this until oh, say the 3rd year of the Bronco LOL. idk i love jeeps. as a third vehicle i want a tj. I just don't trust FCA quality, and i don't trust jeep mechanics that work at dodge dealers or whatever. I mean, i'm not dogging all those that work there, but generally, the data backs up my sentiment. That being said, if you have the resources, those jeeps are really nice.
Hey Noel, we shall see how it goes :) FCA definitely does not have the best rep that is for sure. My 05 was solid for the 4 years I owned it, but that isn't a great sample. So far so good and fingers crossed. As for the Bronco I love what I have seen so far and as a Ford fan I hope they don't screw it up. LOL. They have let me down before. When are they hitting the streets?
Thoughts on sky one touch option? I’m torn between hard top and sky one touch. We have snowy winters...thinking hard top would be the logical choice.
I’ve not played around with the sky too at all. It looks cool but I’m not sure on the durability of it? The hard top is nice with the removable front panels, but is a bit of a chore getting on and off.
Do you feel like you should have gone with a Rubicon? I am looking at buying either the Willys like you have or a less optioned Rubicon. I plan on doing some off-roading but no rock crawling. Do you find yourself wishing you had the lockers? Thanks
Hey Dylan, at this point I don't have any regrets at all. I think the Willys offers a great package for daily use and doing some pretty decent trials when you are in the mood. I can see myself moving the tires from 31's to 33's or a 2 inch lift some point down the road, but otherwise I think it is just fine suspension wise. I am getting 20 mpg day to day and 22 or 23 on the freeway. I really liked my 05, but I only used the lockers a couple of times and the 410's were rough on mpg. Best of luck to you and let me know if you have other questions.
@@AZdroptop Thanks for the reply! Love the videos.
Thank you very much and my pleasure.
I have a 2021 Jeep Wrangler with sky one touch. I hear a rattle at like 50 mph from the wind going over the convertible top. From the metal bars that go side to side to hold the sky touch.
Mark, how do you like the sky top? Someone was asking me about them other day, but I have not had the chance to check them out yet. Has the dealer checked out your noise?
Love it. The noise is not every time but I only have 3,000 miles so not a chance to get to dealer. It’s not bad but the sky touch is new so I’ll give them my opinion. It’s just a clicking noise. From wind. Going over the top.
Very cool. Seems like a nice option to have. The 3 piece top has been nice for me since my last Jeep had a solid top and they are not exactly easy to put on and off. :) Having the 2 front panels out is a nice option. Have fun!
Hey Rick, I live in the northeast and thinking about buying a Willy. However, I'm worried about "death wobble". Have you experienced it?
Hi Daniel, I have not had anything like death wobble with mine and actually just did a video on how the Jeep does on the highway. Link at the end. There is a slight vague feeling to the steering at speed sometimes...Hard to explain, but was noticeable more when I first bought the Jeep. I lowered my tire pressure and that has helped. If you watch the video I mentioned that I didn't notice it much on a recent 500+ mile trip. Jeep has ordered me a new steering damper, but they are on back order. th-cam.com/video/v9SVovVeNzM/w-d-xo.html
Love the Willys . I’m between this and a base Rubicon, do you happen to know the difference in price between the two?
Rubicon starts around $42 and the Willys $38, Willys Sport $35. I'm' not really sure what the difference is between the sport and Willys? If you will not be doing a lot of difficult off roading the Willys should be work out great. If there is the potential for you to really get at it I would start with the Rubicon. 33's, lockers, 4 to transfer case, 410 gears etc. You get a lot for the money.
@@AZdroptop did you special order your willys or pick it off a dealer lot ? Sorry for all the questions, trying to figure out the best way to purchase a wrangler.
No worries at all. I bought from a local dealer. At the time they had a number of them with the options I wanted.
Is your freedom top insulated? If so, what are you thoughts?
Hi Joel, I have the hothead headliners on it. I can't say that the noise difference is huge, but it does help a little bit. Takes away the echo or hollow sound from the cabin. They definitely help with blocking some of the radiating heat though...and they look good as well. Video on them:th-cam.com/video/ymB3AFIaSIg/w-d-xo.html
@@AZdroptop Awesome, thank you. Great content!
I know you said it’s quieter than the crosstrek, are the firestones annoying on the highway , i was looking between the altitude sport and the willys, just worried about the mud tire noise as i am not a avid off roader , but like the willys edition better. Thanks
Have to be honest so far the tires are just fine on the Highway. No drone, not loud etc. I do have only about 5K miles on them so far, but compared to the BFG's on my Crosstrek they make less noise for sure. That may change with miles, but for now I am pleasantly surprised.
@@AZdroptop thanks for reply
Thoughts on sky one touch option?
Rick,your rattle may be the bolts that are exposed at the top of the windshield.Not tightened at the factory.
Haa first time seeing your video.. Own willys 2021 wrangler unlimited 3.0 eco diesel... My 2015 xv crosstrek is currently in the shop with 170,000 miles getting new ( used) engine with 20k on it,, just waiting on subaru to come and flash the ecu before its on the road..,
I'm looking at buying a two door Wrangler,....2021. Looking at the Willy & the 80th Anniversary. My question is do you feel the Willy is extremely harsh on the highway? And do you feel the 80th would be better as far as that goes?
Hi Chad, I don't find the Jeep harsh on the highway at all. The only thing that I notice is the steering feel that I describe in the video...just a bit vague on center, no death wobble or anything crazy. I am used to it now and hardly notice it anymore. It seems like the 80th is based on the Sport S, but I didn't find mention of what shocks/springs it has so I'm not sure if it would be more comfortable on the highway. Other than some cosmetic stuff they seem similar to the Willys except for the shocks? Best of luck with your purchase!
Looks like the tires are less aggressive as well on the 80th. Still researching them a bit. :)
@@AZdroptop Thanks SO MUCH for all the information! Do you feel the stiffer ride / suspension in the Willy makes for more control? I would totally give up a smooth ride for more control. I'm going from a Volkswagen GTI to a Wrangler. One last question, can you get the Full-time all wheel drive in the Willy's?
Chad, sorry for the delay...I do not believe the Willys has the full time AWD option, but I am not 100% sure on that. The rubicon shocks and the all terrain tires will definitely help when off road as will the limited slip differential outback. I think the Willys is a great all rounder for daily driving with a bit more ability off road with out going with the Rubicon.
I have found the Willys to be a good daily driver with all the comfort and connection features you would want along with great visibility all around, plenty of power, and quieter than I thought it would be. Downsides are fuel economy and not as comfortable as a sedan would be, but you can take a sedan off road. :) The Jeep is also not the best choice if you are planning on doing long commutes as it is a bit more work to drive it at 75 mph. Best of luck and let me know if you have other questions...happy to help if I can.
@@AZdroptop You've been a big help! I live in the mountains of NC, my driveway is a half mile long (gravel). It's also steep with two hard switchbacks. I know the jeep will do the job. However, still have a few concerns,....I've been reading a lot about "Death Wobble", and I wonder if that is only happening to people who have heavily modified the suspension??? The other concern for me being my driveway has two switchbacks is something I'm reading about called "binding",..... Does this happen in 4 wheel high as well as low? This is the only reason I was thinking about getting Full-time AWD. And my last concern is where the heck can you find a 2 door 2021 Wrangler of any kind? LOL!!!! I've been on dealer lots all over NC as well as Florida. I'm finding nothing but Jeep Trucks. Thanks again!!
Do you think this is a good family car? I’m wanting a wrangler but I’m also thinking about starting a family in the next couple years so I keep going back and fourth with getting a wrangler
Hi Kailea, if you have an adventurous family then definitely! Having owned an 05 Jeep they have made great improvements on day to day livability and in my opinion it is a very easy vehicle to live with. Heated seats, steering wheel, good sized touch screen, auto start etc... Jeeps have all of that stuff now. Plenty of room on the inside for carseats and stuff.
On the downside it isn't a great vehicle to travel long distances in if you are on the freeway doing 70 to 80mph for long stretches. It is fine, but does wander just a bit and not quite as easy as other SUV's. I have been getting 20 mpg around town and 23 combined so not terrible...the turbo motor does more like 23 to 25 mpg, but you have to use premium I believe.
I think if you plan to do a good amount of off roading it is hard to beat, but if not, it may be better to look elsewhere. 4Runner's are amazingly capable off road and travel better over long distance. I am also a huge Subaru fan and they can do just fine off-road as well if you don't get too crazy. :)
@@AZdroptop thank you so much for the information!! Do you think the Willy is smaller than the other wranglers?
My pleasure, happy to help if you have other questions. No, same size as the other 4 doors...just has a few more off road type options in the Willys package. Rubicon shocks, 31 inch off road tires and different gears in the rear end.
@@AZdroptop THANK YOU!!! you rock!
I just got my 1st Jeep yesterday. I want to love it but it seems out of control. The wheel wants to jump out of my hand. I cant stay in my lane and I cannot go above 58 on the highway, forget cross wind or semis. The speed limit here is 70 with all going way over that. We lowered the air pressure. Anything else I can try? We are trying to get into a different dealer to have it checked
Interesting...Definitely get it to the dealer and have them do a once over. Could be a bad tire, maybe the tires need balanced? Or it could be the common Jeep steering issue or issues. There were a lot of problems with the 18's and 19's, but supposedly it has been improved. My steering is a bit vague, but it tracks straight and does fine on the highway. Jeeps don't do great in the wind, but it sounds like you have something else going on beyond it just being a Jeep.
@@AZdroptop Thanks. It is going to a different dealership to be looked at. I hope they can fix it, I have wanted a Jeep my whole life but can’t drive afraid. Do you think lowering it might help also? It is up higher then I expected also.
Not sure lowering it would do anything, but depending on the model you bought tires might help? There are quite a few aftermarket things that are available to improve steering feel, but I am not familiar with them myself. Hopefully the dealer has an answer for you. Best of luck.
oh dear, problems with steering already. Should have got yourself a 4 runner.
There wasn't really "a problem' just standard Jeep Steering feel.
Does your jeep have the four or six cylinder ?
I have the 6. Over 9,500 miles or so I am averaging 22mpg combined. Pretty happy with that so far.
Any word on the driver side rattle. I have the same and also intermittent
HI Gary, still have it going on. I believe it is still that left top panel and also the d/s window must be a little loose. I plan to have them address it when I go for my next oil change. Another poster mentioned their visor was their rattle so maybe check that. I will post a video once I get it sorted.
Is this the 2.0L Turbo or the 3.6L V6?
3.6 Scott. I am very pleased with the power and the 20 mpg it has been delivering day to day.
How much did you pay for the willys edition?
Hey Kenn, I don't have the info here at work, but it was about $43000 out the door.
The rattle in the Freedom Panel is usually where the top pin slides in that hole next to the latch. I slapped some felt tape around the pin and it fixed the issue/squeak. 💪🏼🫵🏼🇺🇸
Hey thank you very much! Really appreciate it.
I have that same rattle
I think my window is a bit loose and is contributing to some of the noise...need to get it back to the dealer here soon.
@@AZdroptop that might just be it
Do you have the 2.0l tubro?
No, I have the V6.
Sounded more like just a Wrangler update, nothing really specific to the Willys.
Well, it is a Wrangler? What specifically would you like to know about the Willys options?
A little secret. Buy jeeps that aren't made during the main holiday season. Oct-jan.
Okay, thanks. Not sure when mine was built but so far it has been great.
Why’s that
Did you get the 2.0 I4 Turbo?
No, I have the 6.
should of gotten a tacoma :) GM quality is trash - scotty Kilmer .
Well he is kind of a douche. 😁. I don’t think he likes anything. Lol
You don’t buy a jeep for the fuel economy 😂
Who said that you do? 🤔
Absolutely no one 😁
Maybe the Electric Jeep? :)
They have the hybrids jeeps plan go electric in the next few years will see I hope they take the time to work out all the bugs and get the technology right the first time I think they did very well with your hybrid jeep just a little out of my price range at this point but I would’ve bought one if it was in my price range
Your videos are great and so helpful!
Would you recommend buying the sound strips and headliner separately instead of the headliner from the dealer? I am looking to buy the Willys and I am unsure of the quality from the dealer vs the hot head headliner with the sound strips. I definitely want to reduce the road noise as much as possible.
Thanks again!
Thank you Mady, I appreciate your kind words. Honestly I have not seen the Mopar headliner up close and personal so I don't know for sure how good it is. I can tell you that the Hotheadheadliners have been great and did seem to make a difference reducing the echo inside the Jeep. They seem to help reduce heat inside as well. Best of luck with your purchase of a Willys.
Here is a thread from a Jeep forum that might help as well. www.wranglerforum.com/threads/mopar-headliner-vs-hothead-headliner.2264897/#:~:text=HotHead%20compared%20to%20Mopar%2C%20the%20Mopar%20is%20sooo,from%20our%20site%20and%20just%20move%20the%20HotHead.