Tom I can't believe how much you shot and cut together as a sole operator. Particularly loved the raw footage from the event presentation for those of us who weren't there.
This engine has been out and running in the Dodge Ram truck platform since 2014. They pretty much have the issues taken care of at this point. This is like the third generation now. I run one in a 2015 Ram 1500 4X4. It does very well and super quiet. Mileage is absolutely amazing!!!
I'll be buying one. I've been waiting for this for the last 4 or 5 years. (Am presently the owner of a 2012 JK Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon I ordered new from the factory. Great vehicle, and I'll keep it when my wife and I buy a 2021 JL Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon diesel. My wife had a 2014 Grand Cherokee Overland diesel that we sold before moving from Utah to the Island of Molokai this past March. The Rubicon diesel will replace the Grand Cherokee.) Andy McKane, Molokai, Hawaii.
Andy McKane hello, unfortunately HAWAII, gets MANY VEHICLES NOT AVAILABLE ON THE MAINLAND! Example, Some folks I know of rented a HYMER AKTIV1.0, at a rental in MAUI, that SAME COMPANY also rents out VW CALIFORNIAs NOT SOLD HERE, In 72 I rented a TOYATO CARENA, NOT SOLD IN MAINLAND, it was smaller than COROLLA. Cheers from NJ🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Nice greyish-green color on that Unlimited. And completely stunning natural beauty of that area! The scale and vastness of it all seems unbelievable! The colors at sunrise must be awesome!
Great video!! Thank you for the much needed info (MPG shot) and the beautiful backdrops. You're delivery is very refreshing and I look forward to more. New sub!
@@carholic-sz3qv here we have almost every pick up and large SUV with a diesel option. With some like the Hilux, Frontier, Colorado and Fortuner exclusively with a diesel engine.
Diesel in a suv/4x4 is different to a diesel in a car, in a car its about economy and in a truck its about power......this ecodiesel will be a strong seller
What I am getting at is that in a small car you americans prefer a petrol over a diesel because of horsepower but in a truck a diesel is preferable because of torque.....what was said in the video was that he didn't expect the diesel to sell well because of vw...but that's small cars not trucks
Very cool, and very anticipated. I give it 5 months from release and the diesel gear heads will have a delete kit for it, and will be pushing unfathomable power specs and extended fuel mileage.
I own a '96 ZJ Jeep that is a project vehicle. It is incredible offroad. I plan to install a Cummins R2.8 crate engine with the ZF 8HP transmission. I long distance commute in a '16 Ecodiesel Ram 1500 Quadcab 4wd that has over 143,000 miles. It is lifted and has larger A/T tires. The Wrangler or the Gladiator with the 3.0L Ecodiesel will extend the joy of driving a Jeep! Overland travel will be even MORE fun!
why not? this video clearly shows the advantages of the Wrangler. You can be a fan or owner of a rival or competitor, even then, you should at least have respect for Jeep.
I owned a 2006 Liberty 2.8 diesel very impressed, a little stinky at crawl speed and the windows open , great mileage on and off road , turbo lag but hey it has torque. Looking to buy a used Grand cherokee withe 3.0 , give that one a try next. Keep building great vehicles wish I had one of each model .
This generation Wrangler has had 2.2 liter 4 cilinder diesel in Europe since it was introduced in the summer of 2018 (Same engine in used by Alfa Romeo in the Giulia and Stelvio)
My steering wheel is on the Right and our JL has a 4cyl 2.2D 450Nm/333ft-lb (the JK had a 2.8litre of similar output) and we can only wish for the stonking V6 if not for the steering box, even if it is 45kg/100lb heavier. Consider that the interweb takes your message beyond US shores where diesels in passages cars are prevalent and in Jeeps since the mid-1980s. In my area this 3.0 has been nicely propelling GCs since 2011 (also Chrysler 300, Voyager, Ram). VM Motori makes both, recently bought by FCA, and has been in many brands over decades.
They “kinda” gave Jeep owners what they’re asking for. Still no manual/diesel combo, not available in 2dr, and still no OD green. They’re talking about a late release “sarge” green, which looked like baby diarrhea last time it was released. I purchased my jk in tank green and it was legit. Please do that instead on the jl. I’m wanting to trade in for the dreidel but I’m waiting to see what the color looks like.
Well... Korea has been getting diesel version since previous gen instead of gas, but jeep now added 2.0 gas for Korean market. Glad to see diesel for us market as well lol
If the MPG is good, and no lose of capability, this will sell better than the hybrid or the plugin for Jeep, unless using it as a soccer mom’s mall van.
Jace. It Changed my life man. The culture of Jeep people is insane. My life literally turned for the better because of the friendships I made and connections. The lifestyle is amazing for you and the family. I highly recommend you buy one.
@@xX_Templar_Xx-1 thats ok I'm good with my honda civic rt4wd with 24mpg and a 15" lift kit its like a baby jeep so I can mob corners and not roll over then just cut some trail when I'm out exploring but thanks for sharing your experience from a owner's perspective
My 2010 JK is a 2.9 turbo diesel. I believe the engine came from a Fiat truck. It doesn't quite meet these performance figures, but it has done everything I have needed. It has topped 120,000km without incident, and appears to be bulletproof. You quys have been missing out.
@Tom Voelk, I saw you at Seattle auto show at the Cadillac Stand today. It is great to have a new car reviewer to watch. It was nice to meet you. -Kieran
"Reasonably priced"? Hahahah! For the price of an aforementioned optioned-out Rubicon, I can pick up a mint-condition FZJ80 Land Cruiser, swap in the new Cummins R2.8, upgrade the suspension, do a full interior refit/sound-system, AND STILL have money left over for a nice vacation. Decades later, the Land Cruiser will still be rolling while the Wrangler sits in a landfill. Sorry for the rant. I guess $60k Jeeps just trigger me. ;) Love the channel!
@Goddess Sky I'm fairly familiar with Wrangler models- YJ, TJ, etc. but I had to google what the LJ is. Sounds like they're really rare. Cool! Oh, and - sorry can't resist - unless your Unicorn can get to 60 in under 4-seconds (which we both know it can't!) it doesn't stand a chance against my little beastie. Cheers!
I wouldn't exactly call this design first gen. It's an evolution of an existing engine. Not to mention that FCA has plenty of experience with Diesels. Both Fiat and Jeep/Chrysler who have used VM Diesels in Europe for quite some time. Also, Italian-designed is not a bad thing in this case - the Italian Diesel industry is well established and their products are in use all over the world. Is this particular Diesel good? I don't know but I wouldn't dismiss it more than any other new engine. Wait a few years and see... And yes, 50k is a lot indeed but Wranglers aren't exactly known to be cheap. And they sell. So that won't change in the foreseeable future.
Please be sure if you buy eco disel that you delete egr .The last thing you need to be off road and your regen show you 80% and you will need to go on the freeway to clean exhaust filter
$4000 more than standard engine, plus diesel costs more at the pump, plus have to change that fluid every 10,000 miles. seems to take away from the fact that it gets better fuel economy
As a wish list item, Jeep should partner with Dynatrac on the diesel Rubicon and make ProRock 44s an option. Imagine buying a Wrangler from the dealer with ProRock axles already installed. Wow!
If I could afford it I would totally get the diesel Wrangler. I think I've been awakened to the positives of diesel engines and I kind of wish there were more options for diesel engines in domestic automakers. Perhaps Americans outside the heavy duty truck segment haven't been keen on diesels in the past, but I think if more people looked at diesels they might find they would actually prefer it. Now it's just too bad the vehicles you can get them in are so expensive and that oil companies artificially inflate the price of diesel as a "premium" fuel, even though it actually requires less refining than gasoline. That said when people figure out you can run almost any kind of oil in a diesel (with a little modification and a proper tune) maybe we'll see biodiesels take off, driving conventional diesel down.
Great review. VentzP two weeks ago: I also have a Wrangler Jk with a 2.8 TD. A Wrangler diesel has been available outside North America for many years. The diesel would be my choice, especially as it is MUCH cheaper than petrol here in Ireland. They are very rare here. But I love Jeeps.
J P.... They are probably having trouble designing a 5-6 speed manual that will handle the shock load of 400+ ft/lbs of torque ... and fit between the engine and transfer case
@@johntaylor7969 hahahahahaha Bro. Manual transmissions have been the king of torque for literally forever. The reason you can't get a manual diesel is because it's not worth them designing the interfacing if the transmission won't sell beyond a certain amount, and it plain wont sell. At this point manuals only exist in the USA for people who want the cheapest possible product or high-end sports cars, neither of which is a diesel Jeep. I absolutely hate how lazy my fellow Americans are when it comes to driving, and am legitimately depressed when I think about the death of the manual transmission in the next 10 years. I can't even find a 2014 or older manual JK for less than 85% of MSRP, never mind the 80k+ miles on those vehicles nor the fact they don't have power windows or door locks...
I imagine 50 grand for these Jeep wranglers. All the manufacturers are building some awesome vehicles these days but it has gotten to the point that the manufacturers don't even think about what the final consumer cost of the vehicle will be when they design them and decide to go ahead and put them into production. They don't care. When and where will all this new vehicle price insanity slow way down or get to the point where no one will buy or even lease a new vehicle? I for one have bought my last new vehicle because of that "it is what it is" price attitude of all manufacturers these days. I bought a stripped to the gills 2017 Ram P/U 4x4 for 29 grand plus 3 grand for a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty so i will never have to pay more than $100 for any repair...minus the normal wear stuff of course...for as long as I own it. I figure this truck will have to last me 25 years or so by then I will be to old to drive. Won't be putting any more than 10K mi. a year on it, if that, so as long as the body doesn't rot off I might make it. You can keep your 50 grand Jeep. I paid 40 grand for my 2000 Sq. ft house brand new....
Yes this has amazing torque, but I still think my '05 TJ Rocky Mtn will drag this thing around like every 3.6 had done to it time and again from all 4.0's that I've seen. I'll stick with my true utilitarian TJ, all these over techno rolling computers aren't for me. TJ 4.0L I6 all the way! 🇺🇸
I know a shop that does engine swaps for jeeps and puts tdi engines in them About time Jeep, finally shove a diesel n there, the torque will make these amazing for fuel and fun Here’s my question, if I go rock climbing for a weekend or even a week, is this engine good enough to protect from low mileage driving and protect from egr and carbon soot buildup? This is still an issue with diesels today when they come from Vw-Volkswagen
With the crap show that was the ram ecodiesel and jeeps horrible warranty coverage (already fought and got denied a claim because they saw some mud underneath)... I'll stick with my 3.6 and hope nothing else kicks the bucket or I might be checking out the Bronco when it gets here. A 2019 Rubicon should trade in nice...
Spencer L even FORD TRUCKS IN USA HAVE NOT had a manual tranny. , MIDWEST TRUCKS, IN SCOTT CITY MO, They have a PETERBUILT, with a CUMMINGS, tilt back, & it’s an PUSH BUTTON AUTOMATIC, Cheersbfrom NJ...🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Yup. Apparently they continue to ping for a wi-fi or Bluetooth signal. That's how thieves know you have one in your car. I've had a few friends find out the hard way, and the responding cops told them about the method.
I love the fact that jeep put a diesel in the Wrangler and the Gladiator. People have only been asking for this for 20 years but I'm not going to disparage the fact they've done it now so thank you Fiat. One question I do have, why does Jeep still have the mirrors on the doors when it is the only vehicle sold in America that has removable doors by design?
Jeep has had a diesel engine it or it is available in the Philippines since I have been here in 2012 but it is very expensive because of import taxes. I found a new one that was acspecial package for $100,000 n it was a 3 door n had a slide back soft top. A typical new one loaded w/diesel will cost $80,000 give or take 10k. I found one used and a 3 door with around 20k miles and 2016 selling for over $60,000 and has some extras added to it and they will get that price eventually. God Bless n love my 2009 4x4 Strada.
You said only rated to tow 3500, that seems awfully low. I believe that number is for a gas powered Wrangler, not a diesel. I have read online that the Gladiator with the diesel engine will have a tow rating of around 7k which make more sense. I have an 05 Jeep Liberty 2.8 VM diesel and it is rated to tow 7k and it is a smaller platform and weighs much less than the Jeep Wrangler.
Gladiator sport with the 3.6L V6 can tow 7600. The diesel JL is still rated at 3500lb. It’s more about the spring rates, suspension as well, which has not been changed for the diesel JL
It's a shame you were not allowed to try it in the sand at Sand Hollow. Would have been interesting to see how the heavier diesel did in the soft sand. Not everyone drives on rocks. Here in the southeast, its mud and sand, not rocks.
If the diesels come standard with Dana 44 axles in the front and back Why not just buy a sport or overland over the rubicon? Your gonna lift this beast regardless. Opinions?
Lockers and quick disconnects. The cost to install lockers exceed the cost difference. I've been deliberating this same question for a while and really I can't find a good reason to not get a Rubi.
Rick & Zack Explore Offroad , I drove a manual transmission Jeep through a lot of trails, obstacles, and at least one Easter Jeep Safari so I respectfully disagree. It may be a lot easier to use an automatic transmission but I don’t think it is better.
I rem in the Army I got to drive a diesel track vehicle (tank). The early gas models were a disaster for the hard work they had to do. Anyway, I don’t understand why Jeep bothered with a mere 2.0 turbo as it is not a big torque improvement over the V-6. Finally, I suppose the diesel will cost $5,000.
I have a 19 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 6cyl. Auto. I ordered it. I would love the Diesel BUT I'm not sure why Select Trac 4wd. is not available and that is a deal breaker for me. I love the set it and forget it 4wd. It's like driving an Audi Syncro. Works flawlessly. The 400 plus LB torque is amazing though. I've had Honda's, Toyotas, Ford, Chevy's, pickups and SUV's, but I LOVE my Wrangler JL more then anything I've ever had. Including the Kia Sorrento SXL V6 that I traded in for it and my Range Rover before that. Range Rover's, I don't care what anyone says, is the most unreliable brand and always seems to be unreliable year after year. my 8 Jeeps were ALL pretty reliable even though Consumer Reports continuously downs it. They are even better now, my 19 is perfect. Just hit 1 year and 13K miles and not so much as a single rattle.
Oil change intervals are about the same as a car. This particular diesel does not take the vast quantity of oil the larger ones do so the cost is not a big factor. The oil and fuel filters are fairly easy to change as well.
Who the hell buys a diesel off roader and DOESN'T want to hear the diesel clatter? If I ever buy one of these things, I am going to enjoy the diesel clatter!
Australian & European JK's had 2.8L turbo diesels.. as well as appalling reliablilty & after sales 'service'. Chrysler/Jeep is one of the most critisized brands in Oz.
Engine swap. It's worth it. I've put a Cummins in my old Dodge Ramcharger, and fell in love with it all over again. It will outlast me now. Next plan is getting one of these EcoDiesels in my '85 Grand Wagoneer!
would like to have one we'll give it several years so the price will drop on a good used one. There'll be lots of them people will buy but don't like the smell of a diesel on their hand so they should be plentiful on the used Market
Tom I can't believe how much you shot and cut together as a sole operator. Particularly loved the raw footage from the event presentation for those of us who weren't there.
One would think it was a 2 man job. Maybe with the new skydio drone he could get insane shots without worrying too much.
I learned shooting and editing in TV news so there's that...
@@DrivenCarReviews amazing job indeed mate
One of the best reviewers, especially with the narration.
What’s wrong with a Diesel sound? It’s one of the best sounds in the world.
snowflakes dont like anything like diesel :)
In my eyes, nothing wrong with Diesel sound at all!! It's about time, just wish, they offered the Diesel in the 2 door also!
Eeeeww diesel sound
Sounds like victory to me
at idle of course
This will make our service departments happy for years to come. Thanks FCA.
Why no manual transmission with the diesel?? Make it available!! Other countries have that option!
153624 other countries have had the diesel option for years too in a wrangler
Baby steps. Glad they finally did something. I’ll take one.
I want one but really gonna wait till a year or two waiting for issues and recalls.
This engine has been out and running in the Dodge Ram truck platform since 2014. They pretty much have the issues taken care of at this point. This is like the third generation now. I run one in a 2015 Ram 1500 4X4. It does very well and super quiet. Mileage is absolutely amazing!!!
more like wait 4-5 years
Who's gonna buy an ecodiesel jeep?
Me me me me me!
I'll be buying one. I've been waiting for this for the last 4 or 5 years. (Am presently the owner of a 2012 JK Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon I ordered new from the factory. Great vehicle, and I'll keep it when my wife and I buy a 2021 JL Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon diesel. My wife had a 2014 Grand Cherokee Overland diesel that we sold before moving from Utah to the Island of Molokai this past March. The Rubicon diesel will replace the Grand Cherokee.) Andy McKane, Molokai, Hawaii.
@@andymckane7271 in england we had a diesel jk jeep.....it was a 2.8 vm motori 4 cylinder with 302 lbft
Hopefully the fix the loose steering currently plaguing a lot of the JL's .... mine included. :(
Andy McKane hello, unfortunately HAWAII, gets MANY VEHICLES NOT AVAILABLE ON THE MAINLAND! Example, Some folks I know of rented a HYMER AKTIV1.0, at a rental in MAUI, that SAME COMPANY also rents out VW CALIFORNIAs NOT SOLD HERE, In 72 I rented a TOYATO CARENA, NOT SOLD IN MAINLAND, it was smaller than COROLLA. Cheers from NJ🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@flybyairplane3528 vw cali? As in the transporter t6
Nice greyish-green color on that Unlimited. And completely stunning natural beauty of that area! The scale and vastness of it all seems unbelievable! The colors at sunrise must be awesome!
Great video!! Thank you for the much needed info (MPG shot) and the beautiful backdrops. You're delivery is very refreshing and I look forward to more. New sub!
FYI, one of the writers I talked to saw 33 MPG on the highway and said he could have done better if he'd have tried.
Anything above 30 mpg is a huge win
@@makatron that's why I really hope toyota could bring their diesel engines to land cruiser ,Tacoma ,4runner and sequoia in the US
@@carholic-sz3qv here we have almost every pick up and large SUV with a diesel option. With some like the Hilux, Frontier, Colorado and Fortuner exclusively with a diesel engine.
33 MPG would be very impressive
When they put it in the Gladiator I'm all in....FCA just take my money. Great job sir!
Diesel in a suv/4x4 is different to a diesel in a car, in a car its about economy and in a truck its about power......this ecodiesel will be a strong seller
Well it still is about efficiency too where the Diesel gives you that too. Power and efficiency both? Sign me up!
I think you get when I’m in a larger vehicle setup. For example the ram with Cummins gets better fuel than a 1500 gasser v8
What I am getting at is that in a small car you americans prefer a petrol over a diesel because of horsepower but in a truck a diesel is preferable because of torque.....what was said in the video was that he didn't expect the diesel to sell well because of vw...but that's small cars not trucks
@Arnold Morris it's what chrysler Europe did as well.....its the vm motori 4 cylinder right?
@Arnold Morris go for a new Defender in the new year
Tom has the best reviews no question!
I'm guessing the reviewer has never owned a diesel - nor does he know the great day-to-day joy of having a diesel.
Very cool, and very anticipated. I give it 5 months from release and the diesel gear heads will have a delete kit for it, and will be pushing unfathomable power specs and extended fuel mileage.
All they need is the stock tune and they're off.
UT-12 is one of the greatest roads in the States. Utah seems full of awesome routes.
I own a '96 ZJ Jeep that is a project vehicle. It is incredible offroad. I plan to install a Cummins R2.8 crate engine with the ZF 8HP transmission.
I long distance commute in a '16 Ecodiesel Ram 1500 Quadcab 4wd that has over 143,000 miles. It is lifted and has larger A/T tires.
The Wrangler or the Gladiator with the 3.0L Ecodiesel will extend the joy of driving a Jeep! Overland travel will be even MORE fun!
Excellent review of the new Jeep Wrangler Unlimited diesel. This is a fabulous review. Keep up the great work!
I'm not much of a Jeep fan but I am a Driven Car Rewviews fan. This video was an easy thumbs up!
why not? this video clearly shows the advantages of the Wrangler. You can be a fan or owner of a rival or competitor, even then, you should at least have respect for Jeep.
I owned a 2006 Liberty 2.8 diesel very impressed, a little stinky at crawl speed and the windows open , great mileage on and off road , turbo lag but hey it has torque. Looking to buy a used Grand cherokee withe 3.0 , give that one a try next. Keep building great vehicles wish I had one of each model .
The sting gray and the orange are so slick looking.
That 2 second delay when you're caught daydreaming on the job at 7:42
Tom You Deserve More Credit Than You Get.Been watching Since Day One, All The Best, Evan From New City, Ny (Rockland County!
This generation Wrangler has had 2.2 liter 4 cilinder diesel in Europe since it was introduced in the summer of 2018 (Same engine in used by Alfa Romeo in the Giulia and Stelvio)
My steering wheel is on the Right and our JL has a 4cyl 2.2D 450Nm/333ft-lb (the JK had a 2.8litre of similar output) and we can only wish for the stonking V6 if not for the steering box, even if it is 45kg/100lb heavier. Consider that the interweb takes your message beyond US shores where diesels in passages cars are prevalent and in Jeeps since the mid-1980s. In my area this 3.0 has been nicely propelling GCs since 2011 (also Chrysler 300, Voyager, Ram). VM Motori makes both, recently bought by FCA, and has been in many brands over decades.
The diesel sound matches the Jeep Wranglers look! Finally a good engine for it.
Utah is a stunning part of the country.
Very great idea putting the diesel in the Jeep. But the price is simply crazy!!!!
$50k is a lot for a Jeep Wrangler. I can only imagine what a fully loaded 4 door Rubicon.
Great job, as usual, Tom.
They “kinda” gave Jeep owners what they’re asking for. Still no manual/diesel combo, not available in 2dr, and still no OD green. They’re talking about a late release “sarge” green, which looked like baby diarrhea last time it was released. I purchased my jk in tank green and it was legit. Please do that instead on the jl. I’m wanting to trade in for the dreidel but I’m waiting to see what the color looks like.
Well... Korea has been getting diesel version since previous gen instead of gas, but jeep now added 2.0 gas for Korean market. Glad to see diesel for us market as well lol
If the MPG is good, and no lose of capability, this will sell better than the hybrid or the plugin for Jeep, unless using it as a soccer mom’s mall van.
About time... It'll sell like crazy
For once in my life this makes me kinda want a jeep
Jace. It Changed my life man. The culture of Jeep people is insane. My life literally turned for the better because of the friendships I made and connections. The lifestyle is amazing for you and the family. I highly recommend you buy one.
@@xX_Templar_Xx-1 thats ok I'm good with my honda civic rt4wd with 24mpg and a 15" lift kit its like a baby jeep so I can mob corners and not roll over then just cut some trail when I'm out exploring but thanks for sharing your experience from a owner's perspective
@@jacedetweiler7147
A Civic with a 15" lift? I call bullshit on that! And if you don't like Jeeps, why are you on here? Trolling much?
My 2010 JK is a 2.9 turbo diesel. I believe the engine came from a Fiat truck. It doesn't quite meet these performance figures, but it has done everything I have needed. It has topped 120,000km without incident, and appears to be bulletproof. You quys have been missing out.
@Tom Voelk, I saw you at Seattle auto show at the Cadillac Stand today. It is great to have a new car reviewer to watch. It was nice to meet you. -Kieran
Hey there! Great to meet you too. I was really impressed with all you know about cars. Keep it up!
@@DrivenCarReviews I still have to look up that Cadillac You have
@@KilowattAvenue Here ya go- th-cam.com/video/osOtjj0Wdxk/w-d-xo.html
This motor will be amazing in a few years
"Reasonably priced"? Hahahah! For the price of an aforementioned optioned-out Rubicon, I can pick up a mint-condition FZJ80 Land Cruiser, swap in the new Cummins R2.8, upgrade the suspension, do a full interior refit/sound-system, AND STILL have money left over for a nice vacation. Decades later, the Land Cruiser will still be rolling while the Wrangler sits in a landfill.
Sorry for the rant. I guess $60k Jeeps just trigger me. ;) Love the channel!
All talk typical Toyota person
@@brucewhite7069 No, Bruce. I'm worse than a "Toyota person". I'm a Subaru guy. 😲😵
Bruce white fuck any Toyota are getting expensive. Everything way exspensive now. My f450 was $85k. $30k more then when I had a 2008 Duramax new.
@Goddess Sky I'm fairly familiar with Wrangler models- YJ, TJ, etc. but I had to google what the LJ is. Sounds like they're really rare. Cool! Oh, and - sorry can't resist - unless your Unicorn can get to 60 in under 4-seconds (which we both know it can't!) it doesn't stand a chance against my little beastie. Cheers!
Another great review...
But the idea of spending $50K or more on a first-gen Italian-designed diesel makes me nervous.
I wouldn't exactly call this design first gen. It's an evolution of an existing engine. Not to mention that FCA has plenty of experience with Diesels. Both Fiat and Jeep/Chrysler who have used VM Diesels in Europe for quite some time. Also, Italian-designed is not a bad thing in this case - the Italian Diesel industry is well established and their products are in use all over the world.
Is this particular Diesel good? I don't know but I wouldn't dismiss it more than any other new engine. Wait a few years and see...
And yes, 50k is a lot indeed but Wranglers aren't exactly known to be cheap. And they sell. So that won't change in the foreseeable future.
All true. And even if it's junk, Wranglers hold their resale value very well.
Technically it's the third gen
Run away, run away!!
VM Motori makes great diesel engines
Please be sure if you buy eco disel that you delete egr .The last thing you need to be off road and your regen show you 80% and you will need to go on the freeway to clean exhaust filter
I absolutely love it.
I have a RAM with Hemi.engine, no complaints bullet proof but jeep diesel my favourite right now.
After a full delete and tune it will be a monster.
$4000 more than standard engine, plus diesel costs more at the pump, plus have to change that fluid every 10,000 miles. seems to take away from the fact that it gets better fuel economy
healthyamerican you don’t have to change the def fluid, you just have to add to it as it is used up. A tank of def will last aprox 10,000 miles.
As a wish list item, Jeep should partner with Dynatrac on the diesel Rubicon and make ProRock 44s an option. Imagine buying a Wrangler from the dealer with ProRock axles already installed. Wow!
If I could afford it I would totally get the diesel Wrangler. I think I've been awakened to the positives of diesel engines and I kind of wish there were more options for diesel engines in domestic automakers. Perhaps Americans outside the heavy duty truck segment haven't been keen on diesels in the past, but I think if more people looked at diesels they might find they would actually prefer it. Now it's just too bad the vehicles you can get them in are so expensive and that oil companies artificially inflate the price of diesel as a "premium" fuel, even though it actually requires less refining than gasoline. That said when people figure out you can run almost any kind of oil in a diesel (with a little modification and a proper tune) maybe we'll see biodiesels take off, driving conventional diesel down.
Get the most comprehensive,longest, extended warranty they offer regardless of how much it costs.
Great review. VentzP two weeks ago: I also have a Wrangler Jk with a 2.8 TD. A Wrangler diesel has been available outside North America for many years. The diesel would be my choice, especially as it is MUCH cheaper than petrol here in Ireland. They are very rare here. But I love Jeeps.
Very informative and useful review. Great job and thanks for sharing.
Please tell the engineers to keep crate motors in mind. Would love this EcoDiesel motor in my AMC Grand Wagoneer!
Hey, that's Rick Pewe at 13:19 in the front row far side!
i will seriously consider oneof these if they come to NZ
About time Jeep gets a diesel!
Jeep has always had a Manual Transmission for the Die-Hard Fans!
Why would they put this Diesel-Jeep on the market without a Manual Transmission?
J P
Agree, can you get the eco-diesel in a 2 door Sport?
James wingert,
In the USA the Diesel jeep only comes in a 4 door jeep automatic Transmission.
Maybe the future will bring more...
J P....
They are probably having trouble designing a 5-6 speed manual that will handle the shock load of 400+ ft/lbs of torque ... and fit between the engine and transfer case
@@johntaylor7969 hahahahahaha Bro. Manual transmissions have been the king of torque for literally forever. The reason you can't get a manual diesel is because it's not worth them designing the interfacing if the transmission won't sell beyond a certain amount, and it plain wont sell. At this point manuals only exist in the USA for people who want the cheapest possible product or high-end sports cars, neither of which is a diesel Jeep. I absolutely hate how lazy my fellow Americans are when it comes to driving, and am legitimately depressed when I think about the death of the manual transmission in the next 10 years. I can't even find a 2014 or older manual JK for less than 85% of MSRP, never mind the 80k+ miles on those vehicles nor the fact they don't have power windows or door locks...
Manual can’t match the fuel economy.... even us die-hard manual guys don’t want to row 8 gears. It’s all about fleet fuel consumption averages now.
What was that fluid squirting out at 7:31 ?
I imagine 50 grand for these Jeep wranglers. All the manufacturers are building some awesome vehicles these days but it has gotten to the point that the manufacturers don't even think about what the final consumer cost of the vehicle will be when they design them and decide to go ahead and put them into production. They don't care. When and where will all this new vehicle price insanity slow way down or get to the point where no one will buy or even lease a new vehicle? I for one have bought my last new vehicle because of that "it is what it is" price attitude of all manufacturers these days. I bought a stripped to the gills 2017 Ram P/U 4x4 for 29 grand plus 3 grand for a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty so i will never have to pay more than $100 for any repair...minus the normal wear stuff of course...for as long as I own it. I figure this truck will have to last me 25 years or so by then I will be to old to drive. Won't be putting any more than 10K mi. a year on it, if that, so as long as the body doesn't rot off I might make it. You can keep your 50 grand Jeep. I paid 40 grand for my 2000 Sq. ft house brand new....
Rock crawling is all good and dandy, but how does it perform in deep snow and icy conditions?
Yes this has amazing torque, but I still think my '05 TJ Rocky Mtn will drag this thing around like every 3.6 had done to it time and again from all 4.0's that I've seen. I'll stick with my true utilitarian TJ, all these over techno rolling computers aren't for me. TJ 4.0L I6 all the way! 🇺🇸
Jeep TJ71 preach
I know a shop that does engine swaps for jeeps and puts tdi engines in them
About time Jeep, finally shove a diesel n there, the torque will make these amazing for fuel and fun
Here’s my question, if I go rock climbing for a weekend or even a week, is this engine good enough to protect from low mileage driving and protect from egr and carbon soot buildup? This is still an issue with diesels today when they come from Vw-Volkswagen
They won't have a problem selling them. The Cummins in the HDs sell for 10K over the 6.4 and they sell them like candy.
That is very true, but this is not a Cummins Diesel. It's the one from Fiat...
Better highway mpg than the gas versions? I'm skeptical but also hopeful.
Thanks Tom for the review, nice people nice diesel suv and nice places, what else...
With the crap show that was the ram ecodiesel and jeeps horrible warranty coverage (already fought and got denied a claim because they saw some mud underneath)... I'll stick with my 3.6 and hope nothing else kicks the bucket or I might be checking out the Bronco when it gets here. A 2019 Rubicon should trade in nice...
Can you get the diesel with the manual?
No
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You are a pleasure to watch, or rather your reviews ;-) !
Great review. Thieves can detect laptops in sleep mode? Do tell.
Yup. Apparently they continue to ping for a wi-fi or Bluetooth signal. That's how thieves know you have one in your car. I've had a few friends find out the hard way, and the responding cops told them about the method.
Note to self. Turn laptop completely off when traveling.
Driven Car Reviews ....and police are always right
I can’t afford it right now at 60k but maybe 5 years from now at 55k lol
I love the fact that jeep put a diesel in the Wrangler and the Gladiator. People have only been asking for this for 20 years but I'm not going to disparage the fact they've done it now so thank you Fiat.
One question I do have, why does Jeep still have the mirrors on the doors when it is the only vehicle sold in America that has removable doors by design?
I would buy V6 stick shift turbo diesel and 3 door version only.... so you better bring it on!!!
Not sure how this is the first diesel wrangler I have a 2007 Jeep Wrangler sahara 2.8L diesel turbo 4 door??
Is the diesel available with selec-trac ?
Jeep has had a diesel engine it or it is available in the Philippines since I have been here in 2012 but it is very expensive because of import taxes. I found a new one that was acspecial package for $100,000 n it was a 3 door n had a slide back soft top. A typical new one loaded w/diesel will cost $80,000 give or take 10k. I found one used and a 3 door with around 20k miles and 2016 selling for over $60,000 and has some extras added to it and they will get that price eventually. God Bless n love my 2009 4x4 Strada.
You said only rated to tow 3500, that seems awfully low. I believe that number is for a gas powered Wrangler, not a diesel. I have read online that the Gladiator with the diesel engine will have a tow rating of around 7k which make more sense. I have an 05 Jeep Liberty 2.8 VM diesel and it is rated to tow 7k and it is a smaller platform and weighs much less than the Jeep Wrangler.
Gladiator sport with the 3.6L V6 can tow 7600. The diesel JL is still rated at 3500lb. It’s more about the spring rates, suspension as well, which has not been changed for the diesel JL
This is an awsum option ! This ups the anti on the chevy / gmc Bison . Does this this unit offer locking difs ?
They better come with Dana 60s for that 442ft lbs or have a full set of spare parts for the trail.
Oh oh I really hope it is way better than the other fiat diesels. Good luck
The only Chrysler vehicle equipped with Fiat engine is the Ram ProMaster (van)
@@egSmith-sp9gl jeep is getting the fiat ecodiesel this year
@@egSmith-sp9gl 1500 ram pickup fiat eco diesel
@@markmark8841 It's a VM Motori
@@egSmith-sp9gl thanks for the info.looked into vm motors. Interestin past. Thanks
It's a shame you were not allowed to try it in the sand at Sand Hollow. Would have been interesting to see how the heavier diesel did in the soft sand. Not everyone drives on rocks. Here in the southeast, its mud and sand, not rocks.
I drive in the sand, I just didn't have the video to support it. It had no problem.
If the diesels come standard with Dana 44 axles in the front and back
Why not just buy a sport or overland over the rubicon? Your gonna lift this beast regardless. Opinions?
Lockers and quick disconnects. The cost to install lockers exceed the cost difference. I've been deliberating this same question for a while and really I can't find a good reason to not get a Rubi.
This engine would be awesome with a manual transmission. It is merely great with the automatic.
Generally speaking automatics are better for off road. More control going over obstacles.
Rick & Zack Explore Offroad , I drove a manual transmission Jeep through a lot of trails, obstacles, and at least one Easter Jeep Safari so I respectfully disagree. It may be a lot easier to use an automatic transmission but I don’t think it is better.
with all the diesel engines to pick from why this one.. crazy
VM Motori is owned by Fiat
Only thing its missing is a manual transmission with overdrive in 6th gear.. any manual would be a improvement
Will this engine go to the Grand Cherokee as well?
Is this the same eco diesel as in the ram 1500?
But the real question is...will the engine be better than the fiat unit in the earlier models?
I rem in the Army I got to drive a diesel track vehicle (tank). The early gas models were a disaster for the hard work they had to do. Anyway, I don’t understand why Jeep bothered with a mere 2.0 turbo as it is not a big torque improvement over the V-6. Finally, I suppose the diesel will cost $5,000.
Stephen Powdexter it’s a 3 liter
You're a good driver Tom 👍
I wish Dodge would bring back the Raider, with straight axles and the Cummings 4 cyl. Get back into the off road market.
I have a 19 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 6cyl. Auto. I ordered it. I would love the Diesel BUT I'm not sure why Select Trac 4wd. is not available and that is a deal breaker for me. I love the set it and forget it 4wd. It's like driving an Audi Syncro. Works flawlessly. The 400 plus LB torque is amazing though. I've had Honda's, Toyotas, Ford, Chevy's, pickups and SUV's, but I LOVE my Wrangler JL more then anything I've ever had. Including the Kia Sorrento SXL V6 that I traded in for it and my Range Rover before that. Range Rover's, I don't care what anyone says, is the most unreliable brand and always seems to be unreliable year after year. my 8 Jeeps were ALL pretty reliable even though Consumer Reports continuously downs it. They are even better now, my 19 is perfect. Just hit 1 year and 13K miles and not so much as a single rattle.
Do eco-diesels require less frequent maintenance (things like an oil change) than a regular diesel??
Oil change intervals are about the same as a car. This particular diesel does not take the vast quantity of oil the larger ones do so the cost is not a big factor. The oil and fuel filters are fairly easy to change as well.
Takes 9 quarts of oil (special euro spec oil). About 7-8 bucks per quart plus filter.
Who the hell buys a diesel off roader and DOESN'T want to hear the diesel clatter? If I ever buy one of these things, I am going to enjoy the diesel clatter!
Urea tank just killed this for me.
Australian & European JK's had 2.8L turbo diesels.. as well as appalling reliablilty & after sales 'service'. Chrysler/Jeep is one of the most critisized brands in Oz.
Wicked Jeeps N.M. Approves this message. lol
Get an annual National Parks pass, Tom. You'll get addicted.
I sure did! best purchase I've ever made! America the beautiful!
If I wasn't always doing these reviews I'd have time to use one
Should have kept the Iveco diesel for the Jeep and put this engine for the commercial Ram.
I want one an ecoDeisel, but I love my '18 JKU too.
What to do?
Engine swap. It's worth it. I've put a Cummins in my old Dodge Ramcharger, and fell in love with it all over again. It will outlast me now. Next plan is getting one of these EcoDiesels in my '85 Grand Wagoneer!
Is it the 3.0 diesel that Fiat's had problems with ???
Great review!
Love the diesal engine
would like to have one we'll give it several years so the price will drop on a good used one. There'll be lots of them people will buy but don't like the smell of a diesel on their hand so they should be plentiful on the used Market
Love the bored journalist stills.
HiLo Club Yeah a shame. I’d love to be there. And they look like they’re bored at work. Smh