I got this exact same setup towards the beginning of May! I absolutely love it- I don't need the whole Rubicon package since I only offroad a few times a year, so this is perfect. Great video showing all the features off!
Bought the Willys instead of the Rubi. I didn’t think I’d use the Rubi to it’s full potential. Never had any issues off roading with the Willys so far and has been an awesome vehicle. I noticed watching the video your tire pressure was at 41psi. I’d deflate to 36psi it makes the drive feel more stable. I think the dealers overinflated to prevent flat spots. Great video. Side note Willys is pronounced Willis
Thank you Phil. Sounds like we bought the Willys for the same reason. The Rubicon is awesome, but I just don't think I'd use it either. Thank you for the reminder on the tire pressure! I have read about it a few times and just haven't taken the 2 minutes to deflate them yet. :) And also thank you for the pronunciation. I had someone mention that previous and I had no idea. I watched a video on it the other day. Cool History. Have fun and thank you for watching.
I just took my Willys in for the 1000 mile service check and when I got it back on the road it felt like i was in an APC. The ride was super hard and rough as a cobble stone road! I bought a high quality tire gauge and checked the pressure and it was 43, 44,44,44! You would think that a dealer service department would know better. I aired them down to the recommended cold pressure and now it drives like it did before the service.
"...pronounced Willis." Thanks! I was hoping someone would point that out. There's no apostrophe either, it's from John Willys, basically the guy who started it all.
You'll love the Willy's...excellent color choice too. I've had my 2020 Willy's JLU in Sting Gray since December, and its been so much fun. Its really an excellent package, and looks fantastic too. It was nice having the rugged tires for the snow storms we had in January.
Shari me too! Mine is granite grey metallic I almost got the sting grey! I’ve been waiting a week and I get mine Friday! A 2021 Jeep Wrangler unlimited willys
I have a 2020 Willy's JLU in Sting Gray with the upgrades and cold weather group, and its been such a fantastic vehicle. I have the 2.0L engine and its been great so far. The 2020 Willy's that I bought complements my 2013 lifted 2 Door JK.
Nice video. I just bought a new 2023 Willys stripped with a stick. I too like that limited-slip feature. In 2024 it looks like you can no longer buy it with the Willys. Instead they gone to a locking rear diff/axle. I prefer the limited slip on days when there're wet roads and you have to give it the beans for whatever reason.
I'm torn right now between the Willys and the Rubi.....Really makes no sense that you cant get the leather seats with the Willys tho.....ughhh you got almost exactly how I would order it. love the Sting Gray!!! great video
Thank you! Someone commented below somewhere that you can get leather in the Willys??? But I never found it online. Might be worth a call to a dealer just incase it is offered. So for the Willys has been great! Only couple of mods I can see doing down the road are 33" tires and a steel bumper and winch. Best of luck with your choice. FYI, mpg over 6K miles has been 19.8. Mostly city with some freeway thrown in.
Im watching this after the fact haha... why do research? Its a Willys Jeep! I just got mine today... 120km hwy drive home, love it! I test drove the 2.0, but took the 3.6. Next week they do the upgrades... a 3” lift with 35s🤪 cant wait!! Haha
Congratulations on your new car, Rick. This is seriously going to get you places that old faithful Crosstrek couldn't. I hadn't heard of the Willy's Limited, but it looks great. Stay safe and healthy, we're back in lockdown here in Australia.
Thank you my friend. It has been a lot of fun so far and my son is loving the Crosstrek. Sorry to hear you all are back in lockdown! I hope it passes soon and life can return to normal for you. It has been a bummer of a year in many ways.
Nice ride. We're birds of a feather I tell ya. I also have a Xtrek and a Jeep. Mine's an old TJ Rubicon on 35s now. Also. A 33 inch tire is only going to theoretically give you a half of an inch clearance over a 32. Radius. ;) Stupid fact check. lol Looking forward to seeing that sucker stuck somewhere! Enjoy.
LOL, hopefully only stuck and not on its side. ha ha. I hear you to the 33's vs 32's, but for some reason the Rubicon is 10.7 inches or so, and it has 33's. Not sure where it picks up the extra little bit of height? How do you like the 35's? Did you regear it after? Thanks for checking in man, hope all is going well.
Rick your new Jeep is sort like the color Cool Gray Khaki. Because it is gray! Have you gone off road in the desert yet? I guess with a large trailer you could easily tow your Crosstrek? Best of luck with it!!!
It does have a bit of that feel to it...kind of a mat color. I have just been off road on the area from the last video. Real quick. More to come with my son in the Crosstrek.
great video! very helpful... I think they offer the 8.4 screen now in the 2021??? also what are your thoughts on the sky retractable roof option...is that more or less $$$ than the freedom top? just subbed
Hi Mike, thank you for subscribing. The 3 piece hard top is a 1495 option. The sky retractable top is 4,000. :) Definitely a nice option if you don't want to mess with removing the top and storing it somewhere. I have talked with one person who has it and loves it. Otherwise I don't have any experience with it.
Very nice. The Willy's package is a game changer - totally different look compared to sports. And I really love the sting-gray. I bet it is, or is it metallic? I will get a 2023 two door soon - can't even order one now, the factory is fully booked for 2022.
Thank you! I have not driven any other Jeep since my 05, but I am impressed with how much more livable everyday this 2020 is. Great stuff. Best of luck.
I found you while looking at a Crosstrek, but I'm a Jeep guy. I'm thinking about trading my TRD Pro 4 Runner because they are giving me what I paid for it 6 months ago in a trade. I found a sting gray Willy's with a diesel.
They are very nice vehicles that is for sure and like you mention, hold their value like crazy. It has been years since we owned one and I have not driven a newer one..do you think you would be as comfortable in the Jeep? The Jeeps are much better that the past, but I am guessing the 4runner would be hard to beat day to day?. Especially for highway travel? If you are just wanting to try something new and the money works out the Diesel would be fun. :)
Rick Hutton Yeah after fighting with the Jeep dealership and then driving a Rubicon I decided I really like my 4R on a daily basis way better than any Jeep I’ve owned. The only thing it lacks is LED headlights which I’m sure I can retrofit the 2021’s if needed or buy aftermarket for probably cheaper than OEM. I just couldn’t pass up trying to make a deal when they offered me $51K for my Pro. These Jeeps are so overpriced now especially in the higher trims. Also after researching for, the diesels are having all kinds of problems. I will stick with old school reliable.
Nice Nick! That is amazing they offered you that much for the 4runner...definitely worth a shot. I haven't kept up on the Diesel's too much as far as problems go...bummer. 4Runner's are hard to beat as a daily that is darn good off road. Do you get out much in yours? Do you have the KDSS suspension? I think its KDSS. :)
Thank you for watching. It is a nice compromise instead of the Rubicon if you don't plan on doing a ton of 'serious' off roading or rock crawling. So far I am really enjoying it and it is a great daily driver as well. Best of luck.
I have a 2018 Wrangler JK Unlimited Willys Wheeler, The new JL model Willys has way more options in it compared to mine which has pretty much every option in it. Makes me think I should have waited....
Interesting that they changed the name? Willys Wheeler to just Willys. How do you like it overall? It is hard to keep up with car companies and their upgrades these days...I'm sure they will add something cool to the 21 as well. Thanks so much for checking out the video.
Oh cool! I have never driven the JK so I'm not sure what the differences are between it and the JL, but I am very happy with the upgrades Jeep has made since 05.
Hello Rick, I actually made the switch to Jeep as well. Although I got a 2019 sting gray cherokee trailhawk. So far have been really happy 18k miles in and counting. Love the look of your willy's! Do you plan on doing some badge of honor trails?
Nice Hector, congrats on the Trailhawk and thank you! I really like this color. I am not sure what the badge of honor trails are to be honest. I will look them up though! Cheers.
@@AZdroptopDefinitely! Considering the amount of trail driving you like to do this would be a fun way to spend some days throughout the year. It's a Jeep app that shows all kinds of trails throughout the nation, and when you complete these trails you'll get a badge sent to you from Jeep with the trail outline you completed. Definitely take a look at it and let me know your thoughts! Hope you and your family are safe and healthy!
Thank you. I used a dealership up in Phoenix, Earnhardt Chrysler Jeep. No hassle, no messing around. I think my deal was good after comparing prices here in Tucson and other dealers around Phoenix. I was well under MSRP. Hard to say how it will go these days given the lots are a little empty currently, but there are definitely Jeeps out there. Good luck!
Thanks for this vid. I am "dating" a 2020 Forester which I have lifted and installed 29's. So far, it is what I wanted for now, so I expect about a 3 year relationship. However, I knew going in that I'd switch to something more aggressive when I retire fully and don't have to drive as much. I don't (and won't) need a Rubicon either, so Jeep has been off my radar. The 4Runner has been my back burner leader in the clubhouse but this might be worth considering given what you've said about ride quality. I do have concern about Jeep reliability so I'll follow along with your results and see how things shake out over the next few years. Thanks for doing my research for me..... ;-)
Thank you! 4Runner is an excellent choice as well. I really can't say anything bad about them, but the Jeep won out. I am looking forward to getting to know the car better and do some exploring.
It surely is a better off road prospect than a Crosstrek. You showed the manual mode option, but I didn't notice any gear paddles on the steering column. (Watching on a small phone screen). How is gear change operated in manual mode?
Sorry about that, I mumbled the part about using the shifter. No paddles, you click the shifter over to M and then pull back on the shifter for up and push forward for down. Probably good for crawling off road. Cheers.
Very nice Rick but still don’t understand if you take the doors off why would you need the buttons in the centre to control the windows ? The doors are off. Am I missing something.
Rick Hutton Sorry I must have misunderstood. The Jeep has no window buttons on the door as they are located in the middle stack wow that is cool looking and never knew the new jeeps were so modern. I bought my 2018 Crosstrek based on a lot of your videos when I was doing research. Still love it and very good in bad weather. I’m in Canada. Thanks Rick
No worries Rob, I am not always clear...just ask my wife. :) I still love my Crosstrek! Hoping my son really enjoys it. Great to hear you are enjoying yours!
If I remember correctly I have been running it around 34 to 36 these days. It came from the dealer in the 40's for some reason. The ride is a little better lower for sure.
Thank you! My understanding is that 33's will fit from what I have read. Here is a link to a stock jeep with 33's. Cheers and thanks again.www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/285-75-r17-on-stock-jl-sport.9439/
Thanks Jeff. The color is Sting gray and I went with the Penestar. It makes a bit more HP, with less torque, but a torque range that is flatter and I thought it would be easier to use off road. The turbo returns better mpg as well, but I believe premium is recommended though I have heard different opinions on that. Hope that helps.
The tires are not bad at all honestly. I have BFG KO2's on my Crosstrek and they are louder than the Jeep both around town and on the highway. I only have about 5500 miles on the Jeep currently so the noise level may increase over time. At 75 I hear wind noise over tire noise so they are good. I have the 6. After doing a bit of reading it sounds like the turbo may not be as smooth off road and I didn't want to pay for premium fuel. The 6 is rather quick for such a heavy vehicle and I am getting 20 mpg around town and 22, 23 on the highway. Thank you for watching.
Honestly I don't know. I have no personal experience with it myself. I have read in a couple of posts on forums that some think it isn't a good set up for off road. I guess there is a battery mounted down underneath that could be damage by obstacles? Others have said the power delivery is a bit jerky for off roading as well... It seems like a nice set up for a bit of extra mpg, but you are also paying for premium so I'm not sure if there is a big gain or not.
This vid was a year ago so maybe you’ve figured this out by now, but you don’t have to press the break to start the vehicle when its activated by remote start. You just need to hit the start button. It even says so on the dash. 2nd thing, not sure if this may have just been a 2020 thing, but the 8in screen is an option on a Willys. I just ordered a 2021. I use to drive. 2016 Sahara and just can’t be without a Wrangler.
Thank you Ashley, much appreciated. Not sure on the 8 inch screen to be honest. I spent a bunch of time looking at options when researching the Willys before purchasing and couldn't find a leather seat option either at the time. Turns out that is an option as well. :) Thank you again and enjoy your Jeep!
Dr D, It is actually a 4 pin, but for some reason I have always called them 3 pin's. Not sure why or where I picked that up from. :) Sorry for the confusion.
Hi, Rick. I just saw the first video as to why you switched to jeep. It is a true 4 wd, versus the subaru. However, I was checking vehicle reliability from consumer reports, and it really poor, rated worse than average. To me, reliability history is where I begin. If it's not at least average, I just move on. To compare, the crosstrek reliability is rated much better than average. Just hoping you didn't purshase a headache.
Thanks Edward. Yep, they don't have the best ratings, but it should be fun. Still love Subaru despite the issues I had with my 18 and I'm happy to have it in the family still! :) Have a great week Edward and thanks so much for watching.
I have not driven the V4 turbo so I can only give you my opinion on the 6. It has tons of power and I think it is mated beautifully with the 8 speed. Daily driving I get 20.0 to 20.9 mpg and 22 to 23 on freeways and highways. Off road it has worked well and going into manual mode on rocky descents has been great. For what it is worth, I have heard others say the turbo off road is not as smooth, but that is just from reading. Compared to my 05 Rubicon, this 2020 is so easy to live with and a great daily driver.
@@AZdroptop did u drive thru mud or water im scared what if I get v4 turbo they have battery underneath and wire lines god know if they waterproof or nah they have to fuck it up with electrical smh plus if u put mud 33s or 35s tires barley gone push with v4 turbo
@@AZdroptop Nice, I have been on parts of it on my quad. I didn't know it was 100 miles. I ran into your video this morning when a buddy of mine was talking about the new diesel willys. Awesome video!
Thanks so much! The 100 miles isn't all Redington Pass. That would be round trip from home, I only live about 5 miles or so from the start now, all the way through until you come out and can either head West towards San Manuel then back to Tucson through Oracle. Or head SE towards Cascabel and Benson. I would say Redington road is only about 30 some miles. Here is a link to a video I did with the Crosstrek through Redinton after i first bought the car. It is through and around towards Benson. I got a flat near Cascabel. :) I guess you no longer live in Tucson? Redinton is a fun place with many different 4x4 skill levels to try out. Thanks so much for watching. th-cam.com/video/Sx7U9cAqLlU/w-d-xo.html
Very cool. It is just a tiny little town along the way to Benson. Definitely worth the trip, especially the Fall. There is a wash section that is pretty nice.
It sounds good in my opinion, but I am pretty easy when it comes to stock sound systems. It doesn't distort and has decent sound for my needs...definitely better than the stocker that was in my Subaru.
Maybe now that Jeep is coming out with the hybrid version you might get one over there? It is crazy how different all of the different regulations are around the world.
Mr Willys pronounced it 'Willis', but many of the Jeep factory workers pronounced it “Willies.” J.N. Willys pronounced his name `Willis,' local Jeep historian says - Toledo Blade Its pronounced "Willis".........dont be a common factory worker
tell that to the millions of soldiers in ww2 who called it a willeez. its willys and any logical person would call it willeez. however, the dummies at kaiser started a campaign to call it a will-eeyis which is more like phyllis which is feel-iss. it was never willis. you are watching too many youtube videos of jeep snobs who want to rewrite history and become speech police
nice review, I got the same one today in black 2022.. I had a 2013 Sahara and it was badass so it's nice to have again after I gave that for a 2020 2 door civic sport.
@@AZdroptop I got it at 7 thousand clicks with the same tires.. tried them out in the snow a day ago not bad so they must be from when the truck was new cause it's 2022. Have you had any problems with your this far?
Nothing significant so far. Had the visors replaced because the pivot piece came out of the roof. New design from Jeep so they have been fine since. Tires are still looking new at 15,500 miles. Had a bit of a door rattle that I thought was fixed, but it pops up now and then. I think it is the window possibly. Otherwise going well.
I got this exact same setup towards the beginning of May! I absolutely love it- I don't need the whole Rubicon package since I only offroad a few times a year, so this is perfect. Great video showing all the features off!
Thank you Evan! So far I am really loving the Jeep.
@@AZdroptop What’s not to love 🙂
Bought the Willys instead of the Rubi. I didn’t think I’d use the Rubi to it’s full potential. Never had any issues off roading with the Willys so far and has been an awesome vehicle. I noticed watching the video your tire pressure was at 41psi. I’d deflate to 36psi it makes the drive feel more stable. I think the dealers overinflated to prevent flat spots. Great video. Side note Willys is pronounced Willis
Thank you Phil. Sounds like we bought the Willys for the same reason. The Rubicon is awesome, but I just don't think I'd use it either. Thank you for the reminder on the tire pressure! I have read about it a few times and just haven't taken the 2 minutes to deflate them yet. :) And also thank you for the pronunciation. I had someone mention that previous and I had no idea. I watched a video on it the other day. Cool History. Have fun and thank you for watching.
I just took my Willys in for the 1000 mile service check and when I got it back on the road it felt like i was in an APC. The ride was super hard and rough as a cobble stone road! I bought a high quality tire gauge and checked the pressure and it was 43, 44,44,44! You would think that a dealer service department would know better. I aired them down to the recommended cold pressure and now it drives like it did before the service.
"...pronounced Willis." Thanks! I was hoping someone would point that out. There's no apostrophe either, it's from John Willys, basically the guy who started it all.
Like the video! I have a Sting Gray Willy’s 4dr on order. This makes me even more excited!
Congrats Shari! I am really pleased with it so far and the love the color with the Willys black ascents. Best of luck and I hope it arrives soon.
You'll love the Willy's...excellent color choice too. I've had my 2020 Willy's JLU in Sting Gray since December, and its been so much fun. Its really an excellent package, and looks fantastic too. It was nice having the rugged tires for the snow storms we had in January.
just bought one a week ago. 2020 Willys 4 dr. in "Sting gray". Love it.!
Shari me too! Mine is granite grey metallic I almost got the sting grey! I’ve been waiting a week and I get mine Friday! A 2021 Jeep Wrangler unlimited willys
Andrew Motta I have had my 2020 for two months now and I couldn’t love it more!! You are going to have so much fun!
Nice Jeep Rick! Good choice. Not everybody needs a Rubicon.
I like the colour!
Very cool! I have had my new 4 door Willys in Billet Silver for a month now. Love It!
Nice! So far so good here as well. They have made some nice improvements over the years! Thanks for watching.
Hello Rick, Thanks for the video showing your new Jeep Willys Edition. It is bad ass!! I love the color.
Thank you John! Appreciate it brother.
I have a 2020 Willy's JLU in Sting Gray with the upgrades and cold weather group, and its been such a fantastic vehicle. I have the 2.0L engine and its been great so far. The 2020 Willy's that I bought complements my 2013 lifted 2 Door JK.
Awesome and great to hear your JLU is doing well. Thanks so much for watching.
Beautiful! Just purchased a 2021 Willy's... absolute beast!!
Nice!
That little cubby in the back can be used as a cooler and once the ice melts tou take out the plug and let the water out
Nice video. I just bought a new 2023 Willys stripped with a stick. I too like that limited-slip feature. In 2024 it looks like you can no longer buy it with the Willys. Instead they gone to a locking rear diff/axle. I prefer the limited slip on days when there're wet roads and you have to give it the beans for whatever reason.
Congratulations. Have fun with it. The limited slip was definitely nice to have and with the wheeling I do a locker wasn't really necessary.
I'm torn right now between the Willys and the Rubi.....Really makes no sense that you cant get the leather seats with the Willys tho.....ughhh
you got almost exactly how I would order it. love the Sting Gray!!!
great video
Thank you! Someone commented below somewhere that you can get leather in the Willys??? But I never found it online. Might be worth a call to a dealer just incase it is offered. So for the Willys has been great! Only couple of mods I can see doing down the road are 33" tires and a steel bumper and winch. Best of luck with your choice. FYI, mpg over 6K miles has been 19.8. Mostly city with some freeway thrown in.
Im watching this after the fact haha... why do research? Its a Willys Jeep!
I just got mine today... 120km hwy drive home, love it!
I test drove the 2.0, but took the 3.6. Next week they do the upgrades... a 3” lift with 35s🤪 cant wait!! Haha
That's awesome! Congratulations! Please let me know how the lift goes. What brand did you go with etc. Have fun
I got the 2021 sarge green body color. It’s amazing. ✌🏻
Nice!
Good Choice. The blacked out trim is perfect and ofcoz the package too. Good Presentation 😎👍
Thank you Victor! Much appreciated.
Happy Tuesday Rick! 🍻
Same to you! Thank my friend.
Congratulations on your new car, Rick. This is seriously going to get you places that old faithful Crosstrek couldn't. I hadn't heard of the Willy's Limited, but it looks great. Stay safe and healthy, we're back in lockdown here in Australia.
Thank you my friend. It has been a lot of fun so far and my son is loving the Crosstrek. Sorry to hear you all are back in lockdown! I hope it passes soon and life can return to normal for you. It has been a bummer of a year in many ways.
Very cool looking. I like the angle of the front window.
Thanks 👍
Nice ride. We're birds of a feather I tell ya. I also have a Xtrek and a Jeep. Mine's an old TJ Rubicon on 35s now. Also. A 33 inch tire is only going to theoretically give you a half of an inch clearance over a 32. Radius. ;) Stupid fact check. lol Looking forward to seeing that sucker stuck somewhere! Enjoy.
LOL, hopefully only stuck and not on its side. ha ha. I hear you to the 33's vs 32's, but for some reason the Rubicon is 10.7 inches or so, and it has 33's. Not sure where it picks up the extra little bit of height? How do you like the 35's? Did you regear it after? Thanks for checking in man, hope all is going well.
Just ordered a 2021 granite crystal metallic can’t wait great video 😀
Nice Chris, that was my second color choice! I am loving the Jeep so far.
Rick Hutton so excited the wait begins
Great video. Sold me on this. See yah Mercedes 🥾
Rick your new Jeep is sort like the color Cool Gray Khaki. Because it is gray! Have you gone off road in the desert yet? I guess with a large trailer you could easily tow your Crosstrek? Best of luck with it!!!
It does have a bit of that feel to it...kind of a mat color. I have just been off road on the area from the last video. Real quick. More to come with my son in the Crosstrek.
great video! very helpful... I think they offer the 8.4 screen now in the 2021??? also what are your thoughts on the sky retractable roof option...is that more or less $$$ than the freedom top? just subbed
Hi Mike, thank you for subscribing. The 3 piece hard top is a 1495 option. The sky retractable top is 4,000. :) Definitely a nice option if you don't want to mess with removing the top and storing it somewhere. I have talked with one person who has it and loves it. Otherwise I don't have any experience with it.
@@AZdroptop thank you!
Good looking JL. Congrats
Thank you!
Thanks so much, great intro. I am highly considering a Willys Unlimited Wrangler for my next vehicle.
Thank you! I think it hits the sweet spot. Best of luck
Very nice. The Willy's package is a game changer - totally different look compared to sports. And I really love the sting-gray. I bet it is, or is it metallic? I will get a 2023 two door soon - can't even order one now, the factory is fully booked for 2022.
It is a nice package for sure, all the right bits. It is pretty flat, no flake in the paint.
like #555. How Subaru of me. This is the video I've been looking for.
Man have you been the gym hard after pandemic reopening lol 😂💪🏻💪🏻
He definitely didn’t skip leg day.
Ha ha. :) Just haven't been on the bicycle as much. Cheers brother.
Great review , I am seriously considering trading in a 2016 2 door Willys , and picking up the 4 door .
Thank you! I have not driven any other Jeep since my 05, but I am impressed with how much more livable everyday this 2020 is. Great stuff. Best of luck.
You can get an 8.4" screen in the Willys with the Sun & Sound package which also comes with the Sky One-Touch top.
Ken, thank you! I must have missed that on the ordering page. Do you have the sky top? Cheers.
@@AZdroptop I do have the sky top with the 8.4 inch screen. Seems kind of weird for a Willys but really liked the top once I tried it.
Very cool! It looks like a pretty nice option..better than having to unscrew and lift the top off each time. Thank you for letting my know Ken. Enjoy!
I found you while looking at a Crosstrek, but I'm a Jeep guy. I'm thinking about trading my TRD Pro 4 Runner because they are giving me what I paid for it 6 months ago in a trade. I found a sting gray Willy's with a diesel.
Sweet! The diesel's look pretty sweet! Are you going to do it? :)
Rick Hutton Not sure. I really like my 4 Runner, but they are so hot on the used market. It’s the right time to trade.
They are very nice vehicles that is for sure and like you mention, hold their value like crazy. It has been years since we owned one and I have not driven a newer one..do you think you would be as comfortable in the Jeep? The Jeeps are much better that the past, but I am guessing the 4runner would be hard to beat day to day?. Especially for highway travel? If you are just wanting to try something new and the money works out the Diesel would be fun. :)
Rick Hutton Yeah after fighting with the Jeep dealership and then driving a Rubicon I decided I really like my 4R on a daily basis way better than any Jeep I’ve owned. The only thing it lacks is LED headlights which I’m sure I can retrofit the 2021’s if needed or buy aftermarket for probably cheaper than OEM. I just couldn’t pass up trying to make a deal when they offered me $51K for my Pro. These Jeeps are so overpriced now especially in the higher trims. Also after researching for, the diesels are having all kinds of problems. I will stick with old school reliable.
Nice Nick! That is amazing they offered you that much for the 4runner...definitely worth a shot. I haven't kept up on the Diesel's too much as far as problems go...bummer. 4Runner's are hard to beat as a daily that is darn good off road. Do you get out much in yours? Do you have the KDSS suspension? I think its KDSS. :)
Thanks so much... I'm shopping for one and the Willys seems like the "deal"!
Thank you for watching. It is a nice compromise instead of the Rubicon if you don't plan on doing a ton of 'serious' off roading or rock crawling. So far I am really enjoying it and it is a great daily driver as well. Best of luck.
Great! I love that color! I love the Willys... but the Rubicon NOW its quite same price! Thus I will look for a Manual! Rick! Thanks!
Nice rig. Thinking about a Willys Sport with EcoDiesel. Any thoughts?
Hey Andrew, thank you! I bet the diesel is a beast! Tons of power and I think 29 mpg on the highway? Seems like a nice choice!
Thank you for posting this
Helpful video. Thank you!
Thank you William.
Nice looking Jeep Rick. I like the color have you been able to use the Limited slip differential yet? I see the Costco TP in the background.. score
:). No Charmin for awhile now. LOL I have not activated the limited slip as of yet sir. But I will let you know when I do.
Outstanding review 👍🏼
Thank you so much.
Nice vid... good job.
Thank you very much!
I have a 2018 Wrangler JK Unlimited Willys Wheeler, The new JL model Willys has way more options in it compared to mine which has pretty much every option in it. Makes me think I should have waited....
Interesting that they changed the name? Willys Wheeler to just Willys. How do you like it overall? It is hard to keep up with car companies and their upgrades these days...I'm sure they will add something cool to the 21 as well. Thanks so much for checking out the video.
Just what I wanted to see. Yep, I like your logic on this. I am thinking the same way on money/savings. I like it!!👍👍👍😎😎😎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Sweet! Cheers.
I made the same switch, Subaru to Wrangler. Same reasons.
Just picked up my 2021 Willys today. Mine is in granite grey
Congratulations Andrew. Have fun!
It's odd they include the 7 pin tow connection when the max tow is 3500lb. Trailers under that weight don't typically have brakes or need them.
I never thought of that Phil, good point.
Great new Jeep I have a JK an been thinking about upgrading to the JL
Thank you! How long have you had your JK? Any issues with it?
Rick Hutton I’ve had it for about 2 yrs , it’s a 2017 Sahara. But really want something to go off-road in like the willies edition
Oh cool! I have never driven the JK so I'm not sure what the differences are between it and the JL, but I am very happy with the upgrades Jeep has made since 05.
Hello Rick, I actually made the switch to Jeep as well. Although I got a 2019 sting gray cherokee trailhawk. So far have been really happy 18k miles in and counting. Love the look of your willy's! Do you plan on doing some badge of honor trails?
Nice Hector, congrats on the Trailhawk and thank you! I really like this color. I am not sure what the badge of honor trails are to be honest. I will look them up though! Cheers.
@@AZdroptopDefinitely! Considering the amount of trail driving you like to do this would be a fun way to spend some days throughout the year. It's a Jeep app that shows all kinds of trails throughout the nation, and when you complete these trails you'll get a badge sent to you from Jeep with the trail outline you completed. Definitely take a look at it and let me know your thoughts! Hope you and your family are safe and healthy!
Hi. Beautiful Jeep !!! I’m really considering getting one. I love the 2 door. Did you got a good deal ? How was your dealership? Thanks !!!
Thank you. I used a dealership up in Phoenix, Earnhardt Chrysler Jeep. No hassle, no messing around. I think my deal was good after comparing prices here in Tucson and other dealers around Phoenix. I was well under MSRP. Hard to say how it will go these days given the lots are a little empty currently, but there are definitely Jeeps out there. Good luck!
Thanks for this vid. I am "dating" a 2020 Forester which I have lifted and installed 29's. So far, it is what I wanted for now, so I expect about a 3 year relationship. However, I knew going in that I'd switch to something more aggressive when I retire fully and don't have to drive as much. I don't (and won't) need a Rubicon either, so Jeep has been off my radar. The 4Runner has been my back burner leader in the clubhouse but this might be worth considering given what you've said about ride quality. I do have concern about Jeep reliability so I'll follow along with your results and see how things shake out over the next few years. Thanks for doing my research for me..... ;-)
Thank you! 4Runner is an excellent choice as well. I really can't say anything bad about them, but the Jeep won out. I am looking forward to getting to know the car better and do some exploring.
Very good overview.
Thank you!
Hey Rick awesome Jeep, do you know if the rock sliders on your Jeep are the same as the Rubicon's sliders ?
Thank you Anthony. Yep, from what I understand they are the same.
Mine has the 8.4 radio and sub..
It surely is a better off road prospect than a Crosstrek. You showed the manual mode option, but I didn't notice any gear paddles on the steering column. (Watching on a small phone screen). How is gear change operated in manual mode?
Done manually with the shifter, mentioned at the 7:13 mark
Sorry about that, I mumbled the part about using the shifter. No paddles, you click the shifter over to M and then pull back on the shifter for up and push forward for down. Probably good for crawling off road. Cheers.
Very nice Rick but still don’t understand if you take the doors off why would you need the buttons in the centre to control the windows ? The doors are off. Am I missing something.
Less electronics in the doors is my guess. I believe I read it somewhere?
Rick Hutton Sorry I must have misunderstood. The Jeep has no window buttons on the door as they are located in the middle stack wow that is cool looking and never knew the new jeeps were so modern. I bought my 2018 Crosstrek based on a lot of your videos when I was doing research. Still love it and very good in bad weather. I’m in Canada. Thanks Rick
No worries Rob, I am not always clear...just ask my wife. :) I still love my Crosstrek! Hoping my son really enjoys it. Great to hear you are enjoying yours!
Just noticed your tire pressure was 42. My two-door Willys manual says 37psi. Did you have any issues? I'm tempted to pump it up a bit more.
If I remember correctly I have been running it around 34 to 36 these days. It came from the dealer in the 40's for some reason. The ride is a little better lower for sure.
@@AZdroptop Thank you !🙂
Love the jeep, can you put 33’s on this without any modifications?
Thank you! My understanding is that 33's will fit from what I have read. Here is a link to a stock jeep with 33's. Cheers and thanks again.www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/285-75-r17-on-stock-jl-sport.9439/
The color is nice, which is it? Did you go with the penestar or Turbo and why?
Thanks Jeff. The color is Sting gray and I went with the Penestar. It makes a bit more HP, with less torque, but a torque range that is flatter and I thought it would be easier to use off road. The turbo returns better mpg as well, but I believe premium is recommended though I have heard different opinions on that. Hope that helps.
dyno of both engines. th-cam.com/video/QJDMwbnBYAE/w-d-xo.html
Looking Good Rick! did you ever say how much you paid?
He didn't but given the options and the employee pricing for all, it was probably just over $42,000
Before all of the taxes and fees just under $41,000. If you shoot me an email I can give you the full details. Cheers.
2020, Willys, around here, does not have bumper to fender flare closeout panel. Both Willys packages, sport, and sport s. Must be running change.
That's interesting!? I wonder why. Where about are you Chris?
@@AZdroptop
Central Wisconsin. If you build one on Jeep.com, the closeout panel is deleted also. I kind of like without.
Oh cool. My wife is from Wisconsin, Reedsberg area. I agree, it looks nice with out it. Not sure why mine has it?
How are the mud tires for every day driving? Which engine option did you select?
The tires are not bad at all honestly. I have BFG KO2's on my Crosstrek and they are louder than the Jeep both around town and on the highway. I only have about 5500 miles on the Jeep currently so the noise level may increase over time. At 75 I hear wind noise over tire noise so they are good.
I have the 6. After doing a bit of reading it sounds like the turbo may not be as smooth off road and I didn't want to pay for premium fuel. The 6 is rather quick for such a heavy vehicle and I am getting 20 mpg around town and 22, 23 on the highway. Thank you for watching.
Did u negotiate price? Just got mine with the exact same color and option package. Curious to see what others paid
Sticker was 48, If memory serves I paid 43,xxx out the door..
How do you like 2.0Turbo engine, I've heard some people say it's not as reliable as the 3.6. What's your opinion?
Honestly I don't know. I have no personal experience with it myself. I have read in a couple of posts on forums that some think it isn't a good set up for off road. I guess there is a battery mounted down underneath that could be damage by obstacles? Others have said the power delivery is a bit jerky for off roading as well... It seems like a nice set up for a bit of extra mpg, but you are also paying for premium so I'm not sure if there is a big gain or not.
Rick Hutton you make very valid points. Thanks so much for the reply
Cheers my friend. Thank you so much for watching.
This vid was a year ago so maybe you’ve figured this out by now, but you don’t have to press the break to start the vehicle when its activated by remote start. You just need to hit the start button. It even says so on the dash.
2nd thing, not sure if this may have just been a 2020 thing, but the 8in screen is an option on a Willys. I just ordered a 2021. I use to drive. 2016 Sahara and just can’t be without a Wrangler.
Thank you Ashley, much appreciated. Not sure on the 8 inch screen to be honest. I spent a bunch of time looking at options when researching the Willys before purchasing and couldn't find a leather seat option either at the time. Turns out that is an option as well. :) Thank you again and enjoy your Jeep!
Never heard of a 3 pin!
Dr D, It is actually a 4 pin, but for some reason I have always called them 3 pin's. Not sure why or where I picked that up from. :) Sorry for the confusion.
Hi, Rick. I just saw the first video as to why you switched to jeep. It is a true 4 wd, versus the subaru.
However, I was checking vehicle reliability from consumer reports, and it really poor, rated worse than average. To me, reliability history is where I begin. If it's not at least average, I just move on. To compare, the crosstrek reliability is rated much better than average.
Just hoping you didn't purshase a headache.
Thanks Edward. Yep, they don't have the best ratings, but it should be fun. Still love Subaru despite the issues I had with my 18 and I'm happy to have it in the family still! :) Have a great week Edward and thanks so much for watching.
You can add leather seats to the Willys.
Really? Thanks Paul, I didn't see that as an option when I was looking on the site. Thank you!
I have a white Willys. I thought they came with 33 inch tires?
I believe the Rubicon has 33's.
Which one would u recommend v4 turbo or v6? Right now i have v6 jk looking to upgrade JL
I have not driven the V4 turbo so I can only give you my opinion on the 6. It has tons of power and I think it is mated beautifully with the 8 speed. Daily driving I get 20.0 to 20.9 mpg and 22 to 23 on freeways and highways. Off road it has worked well and going into manual mode on rocky descents has been great. For what it is worth, I have heard others say the turbo off road is not as smooth, but that is just from reading. Compared to my 05 Rubicon, this 2020 is so easy to live with and a great daily driver.
@@AZdroptop did u drive thru mud or water im scared what if I get v4 turbo they have battery underneath and wire lines god know if they waterproof or nah they have to fuck it up with electrical smh plus if u put mud 33s or 35s tires barley gone push with v4 turbo
I have read about that about the turbo...the battery underneath I guess. The V6 has been great!
would this be sting grey?
Yes it is.
@@AZdroptop thank you sir
curious to know what the dealer tries to sell you after the fact.
They haven't tried to sell anything as of yet?
@@AZdroptop You didn't get taken into the "managers office" and sold undercoating and extras?
No sir. Just the typical maintenance plans and the like. I believe they also offered paint protection as well.
The funny part is its still black listed lol and they just can never get over it it’s hella friggin long one
What is black listed? Sorry I am not sure what you are referring to?
Is the Redington you are talking about in Arizona?
Yes sir. Here in Tucson.
@@AZdroptop Nice, I have been on parts of it on my quad. I didn't know it was 100 miles. I ran into your video this morning when a buddy of mine was talking about the new diesel willys. Awesome video!
Thanks so much! The 100 miles isn't all Redington Pass. That would be round trip from home, I only live about 5 miles or so from the start now, all the way through until you come out and can either head West towards San Manuel then back to Tucson through Oracle. Or head SE towards Cascabel and Benson. I would say Redington road is only about 30 some miles. Here is a link to a video I did with the Crosstrek through Redinton after i first bought the car. It is through and around towards Benson. I got a flat near Cascabel. :) I guess you no longer live in Tucson? Redinton is a fun place with many different 4x4 skill levels to try out. Thanks so much for watching. th-cam.com/video/Sx7U9cAqLlU/w-d-xo.html
@@AZdroptop I'm still in Tucson. I have never heard of cascabel. I gotta try out that trail to benson.
Very cool. It is just a tiny little town along the way to Benson. Definitely worth the trip, especially the Fall. There is a wash section that is pretty nice.
Pretty much cost twice as much as my 2020 crosstrek premium.
Probably close, Yep.
In the current environment you could probably sell that jeep today for what you paid for it new....
That is very possible. The used car market is pretty crazy right now!
How do you like the stock sound system?
It sounds good in my opinion, but I am pretty easy when it comes to stock sound systems. It doesn't distort and has decent sound for my needs...definitely better than the stocker that was in my Subaru.
@@AZdroptop glad to hear! I was looking at the premium sound, but it stuffs the sub on the floor in the trunk. Kinda ill thought out in my opinion
I hear ya. I have considered adding a sub, but for me the stock system is just fine for now.
What color you went with?
Sting-gray is the color.
Beautiful color. Nice choice.
I had mine for just 2 months and someone totaled it 🥺🥺🥺
Oh geez! That is a bummer! I hope you are okay and insurance is helping to get it replaced.
willis
Thank you. I am aware of the pronunciation now. :)
It's super dumb that it's not available in Europe.
Maybe now that Jeep is coming out with the hybrid version you might get one over there? It is crazy how different all of the different regulations are around the world.
Mr Willys pronounced it 'Willis', but many of the Jeep factory workers pronounced it “Willies.” J.N. Willys pronounced his name `Willis,' local Jeep historian says - Toledo Blade
Its pronounced "Willis".........dont be a common factory worker
Yep, I’ve since learned that is the pronunciation. Thank you
It is not pronounced Willy’s, it is pronounced Will-iss.
Thank you.
It's pronounced Willis, not Willees.
Yep, thanks.
tell that to the millions of soldiers in ww2 who called it a willeez. its willys and any logical person would call it willeez. however, the dummies at kaiser started a campaign to call it a will-eeyis which is more like phyllis which is feel-iss. it was never willis. you are watching too many youtube videos of jeep snobs who want to rewrite history and become speech police
nice review, I got the same one today in black 2022.. I had a 2013 Sahara and it was badass so it's nice to have again after I gave that for a 2020 2 door civic sport.
Thank you and congratulations! Great stuff.
@@AZdroptop I got it at 7 thousand clicks with the same tires.. tried them out in the snow a day ago not bad so they must be from when the truck was new cause it's 2022. Have you had any problems with your this far?
Nothing significant so far. Had the visors replaced because the pivot piece came out of the roof. New design from Jeep so they have been fine since. Tires are still looking new at 15,500 miles. Had a bit of a door rattle that I thought was fixed, but it pops up now and then. I think it is the window possibly. Otherwise going well.