Seems to me Eldraine shares a similar issue with the War of the Spark story in that WotC and Kate Elliot were not quite in sync. It can be possible to think that she was given just enough information to craft a plot while the cards themselves were still in the R&D process/having their art created. I personally feel that Wizards needs to establish a bible with everything that a writer would need to follow in order to have certain elements make sense within the context of the art from the cards.
Totally agree with you about story and gameplay, when you can explain the story of the set through gameplay (like new Gerrard or Gideon Blackblade for example) it becomes memorable
Good to see you back ! As a note, in a medieval system, the loyalty and the politics are usually more centered around a person than to the state. The notion of statehood as we know it will only appear much later. That could explain the loyalty to the king and not to his wife, the throne-helder while he's away. Or, Wizards of the Coast dont like her. Either way :P
The swords were drawn in the book too, because the room with the mirror had undynes that could kill them. Also Linden is not respected at all, because people think she got rid of Kenreth to become a High Queen, even though she is completely steadfast. They never trusted her, because she was incredibly competent but gave up her chance at the knighthood to save the twins. It’s not that she had twins, it was acknowledged that she could take care of them even through the trials, but she knew she would die at Embereth and didn’t have the resurrection magic she needed to complete the trial. She was brave, just not in sanctioned combat. (Hell she saved her husband from a witch). Linden is definitely my favourite.
I don't remember them taking out the swords in the book. They did make note of the merfolk, but I think they were more worried about slipping in a puddle or being drowned when the room filled back up with water.
Whoops! Rowan had her magic out, not her sword. My mistake! Although I do believe my interpretation of Queen Linden still stands. Plus I’m irrationally attached to this set. I love the idea of the Kenereth family. They are just so good to one another. I feel like True Love’s Kiss could’ve been the moment with Linden kissing Kenereth and saving him from the witch, to tie back into the book. The separation of the MTG story from R&D is really hurting.
Alright, everyone's already thinking it... I guess I'll be "that guy." *oKo ShOuLd HaVe JuST eLkeD GaRroK fRoM tHe StArT.* But in all reality just think about it for a second.... Oko caused Will and Rowan multiple problems, altered people's memories, elked a LITERAL KING, got away Garroks scary lookin axe weildin ass, and wasted ZERO time planeswalking off Eldraine to almost single handedly ruin standard?!?!? Hes literally accomplished more since his debut then 32 of the 36 planeswalkers in WAR have; and yet has probably never heard the name Nicol Bolas before in his life. (Which is a blessing for Bolas...could you imagine Liliana controlling an army of dreadhorde 3/3 elk? Lol
How Garruk got rid of his curse annoyed me so much. Also, I find ironic that Oko, the trickster planeswalker, is very easy to get very loyal to you on his card.
The "heroes and toys" deck concept reminds me of my Golos commander deck where all the big payoffs are other "lands deck" commanders. Almost all the legends that care about lands are in there.
14:34 you are not alone with this. Story and Lore are important to enjoy the game. It gives flavour to it. It really drives you to build a deck around specific cards, just because you enjoy having them on your battlefield. Gameplay is what makes you play the game. Story is what lets you stay for more. :)
I would love to see a recap of theros block especially since we’re going back in a couple of months but maybe that’s a video for a little later since we are so far out from it
Going back to learn about older sets....It's impressive how far you've come with production quality and just being comfortable. Well done, sir! Keep up the great work.
It is kind of sad that the new Magic Arcanum videos are not reaching even 1000 views right now. Hopefully old viewers discover the new Magic Arcanum channel. While the video lacks some polish, I love it. I hope to see this channel continue.
I love just listening to these in the back-round over and over again while sorting cards or doing class work or heck even just watching them! With the cards on the screen it still gives it an enjoyment factor of watching! I love these listening/watching them over and over again allows me to understand the story and, even find out somethings I might have tuned out the other times! Thanks for everything you do!!!
God i love this channel, please dont stop Ryan, the magic lore is such an unappreciated part of the game and your opinions and story telling means so much to me. Keep it up man, youre incredible and deserve a lot more views than you currently get.
They have to do a Norse set eventually, right? They've done Egypt and they've now done Greco Roman a few times, the next logical step is the Scandinavian Sagas.
@@alexanderforbes1452 i read somewher that in the roadmap is said this: for sure one set will be Innistrad, one set will be a pure d&d set (i guess different from the new zendikar?) And a norse mithology set (obv not in this order, thr norse one should come before the other 2)
Within my custom sets, if a planeswalker’s spark ignites a decent way in the story and isn’t already going to be a double sided card, I start them out as a legendary creature.
Ryan, I certainly agree with you 100% that the story matters! I'm sure plenty of players could care less about it but having it all tie together between the cards and the story really makes for a better experience! I sure as hell wouldn't play this game if there were no artwork or story behind it at all. I love the mechanics but I need the pictures and tales to go with it!
Right? And since Garruk, Rowan, Will, and Oko were all missing from War of the Spark, it's more likely this came before it or after it, but almost certainly not during.
Intreductor Maybe Tef’s recruiting for the Gatewatch? I have reason to suspect that Eldraine comes before WotS. Garuk mentioned getting a warning to stay away from conflict.
I agree with you 100% on that the cards and the gameplay should (at least try to) go together. It makes it all the more enjoyable and I personally know a lot of people would play it more because they could identify with the deck (not just the color). Maybe that is what commander is all about.. (I wouldn't know, I'm a 2 year newbie who has only ever played standard). Thank you for the awesome videos (very glad you guys upgraded the sound and the graphics as well), keep 'em coming! I would love to hear the story about the THEROS plane (now that Gideon is dead/reborn), taking into account that that will be the coming set. Thanks again!
Great video catching us all up with everything on Eldraine, and the editing is great, glad to see you are completely back to form. Also I want to throw in here that I am liking all of your videos to help in that way too.
The more I play magic and learn about the story the more I enjoy and care about flavor. That's why I've been loving these magic arcanum videos, learning more about the cards I play with makes me enjoy playing with those cards more. When I really like a card, especially a legendary creature and especially especially a planeswalker I like to look up their backstory, and when there isn't any or what there is is very sparse it's a disappointment. Which Fae cursed Korvald and where was he the King of? What's Chulane's deal, who is he telling tales to? I know they have dedicated people for the flavor and the world building over at wizards so I sometimes can't help but wonder what those people actually do.
Man I'm so glad I found you again. Gonna watch all your videos with my TH-cam red. It ain't much but I hope it helps. Once I move I'll probably become a Patron! These videos are some of my favorite content on TH-cam ^^.
Guess who found a new Playlist to put on while I work. I really do agree, if it's a story based card game, you should know how it goes from the game. Lorywn felt like a great one for that.
I had no idea there was The Truth of Names story to give Alesha her name. Great story, and a fierce warrior. Even not being trans myself, of any kind, I love what they did with her.
Stay strong Ryan- you guys are very entertaining and I enjoy the channel. I'd recommend throwing any possible leftover budget (literally anything) into marketing. good luck!
Thanks for making this! They really did drop the ball hard with this set's narrative. Just from the cards, I had absolutely no idea what was going on in the story. And that's disappointing that the problem is basically made worse AFTER reading the book... Ugh. I really hope they get their act together for Theros, my favorite plane
I indeed recognized that Oko turned Kenrith into an Elk just by playing the cards but I didn’t even notice that Garruk got freed from the curse. I would never have guessed that Linden or Rowan or Will saved their father or that they met Garruk or that Garruk met Oko if I didn’t watch this. ^^ And that part with Linden being rewarded for attacking is a really bad idea from wotc if they don’t explicitly mention in the book that she now tries to please Embereth.
As a Timmy, I can't agree more about the lore aspects of the game. I collect several tribes, based only on lore, and allways create decks based on theems
I was wondering what had happened to your bit in TCGplayer. That is quite cold in my opinion. I am so glad that I just happened to stumble on your videos because Magic Arcanum and Pretty Deece were the the only reasons I had subscribed to TCGplayer. Good luck and go get ‘em.
It's a shame that so much of the story isn't told in the cards. One of my favorite sets for all time will probably be War of the Spark, and part of that is because how they unveiled the cards, and told the story in them.
Still going through videos, and this revisit to Eldraine is really awesome. A shame the cards and story don’t totally line up, but I do think the cards have a sort of... bare bones structure to them. Admittedly the thing I like about the cards in this set is how you can really tell what each kingdom values from their cards. Like you pointed out with the blue cards and how it shows they like knowledge. The knights of Ardenvale are also extremely fascinating to me and I’d love to see more of them. Your stance on Legendary creatures make sense to me too. I’m gravitating more towards the Godzilla Ikoria versions of the Apex creatures, simply because I know them. Illuna May be a dream weaver but I didn’t get much info on that from the game or book, so I’ll go with the version of the card that had a movie about them recently and pretend they crash landed on Ikoria, haha.
Teferi is a chronomancer; violating causality is his specialty. So, yeah, that could totally be him lurking in the shadows. I do get your point about story and gameplay segregation. It bothers me when any game has big gaps between the two, whether it’s a card game, an RPG, or a video game. Lastly, I wish I had known sooner you split off into your own channel! I was wondering why I hadn’t seen any vids from you in a while. Happy to sub to your new channel.
This set was weird how it didn't overlap very strongly. The primary focus of the set just seemed to be to put a bunch of stuff on cards so you can "build your own fairytale". Maybe they'll revisit eldraine someday, but maybe eldraines role is one of being a one off player inspired (based on known fairy tales and such) set not a lore inspired set. I bet in the next sets they'll go strongly back into lore Great videos! I'm a very casual MTG player and these videos just make me love the game a lot more!
I really would like to see some video about actual ways to read magic lore: books, comics, etc. And also, really great video. Thank you very much for small montage and showing cards.
13:30 "the more you know about a character, the more you identify with them, and the more likely they are to be your favorite." I have a counter example: Sorin Sorin was my favorite character when I first started playing Magic, I saw him as this fabulous vampire that ruled over the plane of Innistrad then I read the story, and I discovered that he's a dick, not even edgy, just a dick for no reason, and I hated him after that.
Great Story! Eldraine is such a flavourful place, I could listen to it's story all day long :D Just a bit sad to hear, that the cards don't reflect the story that much :/
Maybe some noise dampening panels for the walls? Audio seems not up to your previous standards. My son and I love the content though! You two are Legendary Lore Mages
I've been recording in a different environment almost every other week at this point, but once I settle into my next real house, things should be more stable and then I will start to dial in my sound design. Thanks for your patience!
I had a prediction that Garruk would show up on Kaldheim (whenever we get there) as a Jund-colored Barbarian King. I was a little disappointed when I saw that he was going to lose B from his color identity.
Given MaRo said he wanted players to tell their own endings to the story, I'd kind of wish there were multiple ways to undo Kenrith's being turned into an Elk. But I think there's only 1 card that can undo either Oko's ability, or the transformation - Charming Prince.
@@MagicArcanum I can't help but think that if they *really* wanted to build the story around this; Oko'd make an aura token, and they'd give each color an answer to that aura. G, W disenchant; U bounce, B kill then return, and not sure what R would do... bounce aura an opponent controls? Put the answers at (U) and I think it'd be a really neat way to "influence the story." This'd work with TrappedinaTower and Sleep; maybe do a tight cycle of 1C "answer" auras... Curse of Shocking your creature each turn, So Tiny but not mill-dependent, black stab wound variant, Trapped in a Tower, and then... I guess... Kenrith's Transformation? An aura that kept giving the creature's opponent's food would be interesting.
@@reubenfromow4854 its sucks cause I also called secret randevue. when a draw three in white was spoiled me and my buddy were joking like you draw 3 and so does each opponent but we also said things like draw three then put 5 cards back on top of your deck in any order and if you can't you lose the game
When I play mtg, I like having a cool deck with lots of synergy, that's why I like tribal decks. And I like the life just because it's fun and there are lots of characters and worlds. Legendary creatures? Meh, they usually are crappy or op in standard. Thing is, if they are legendary and important, they as a creature are very easy to remove. A planeswalker or an enchantment on the other hand, I think are better to represent important lore stuff since they stay in the battlefield longer. Sagas and the oaths were pretty fun. Buuut, legendary creatures are great in another format, EDH. The fact that you can re cast them makes them more important. If you have a favorite character from the lore and want to play with it, play edh. Standard or modern? Not so much
It is a shame that the people writing the lore and those designing the cards don't communicate more. I think WotC needs to start really integrating the lore and card design teams' input much sooner in the set design process. The impression I get is that there are a couple people high up in the design department who roughly hash out the broad strokes of the story and maybe a handful of key characters. They then pass this bare bones outline to two desperate teams that communicate little, one that works on fleshing out a proper story for the set and the other which designs the cards. This is a recipe for a disaster when it comes to trying to get your story line and the sets flavor to form a cohesive picture.
Cuz I’ve got a lot of Phyrexian stuff, and I wanna make a preator commander deck...but I know almost nothing about them apart from they’re evil and like sharp objects.
You keep mentioning previous eldrain videos but this seems to be the first on the channel. Are there unlisted videos that would be helpful in understanding the lore of each set?
"If you ask the average Magic player to explain the story of Eldraine, just through their experience playing with the cards..." Average Magic player: "Well, there was an elk..."
A lot more detail about the lore of the plane was released: magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/planeswalkers-guide-eldraine-2019-10-31 It's nice to see the lore behind some cards explained better.
Star Wars TCCG!!!!! I played that back in the day and didn't even look at MTG. I kick myself now for not picking up MTG then and waiting almost 25 years later to start playing. I find the set fun to play but like someone else said, it felt rushed. Not as coherent like Ixalan or latest return return to Ravnica.
I'm at brand new to your channel and I just watched this video and I was wondering if you have a series on the overall story of magic like the lore like maybe if you don't you can do a whole series on explaining the whole story so far like from beginning to current I don't even know if that's a possibility cuz I know old magic is very scattered but I would love to be able to you know watch a video or series and learn about you know all the characters and all the planeswalkers and stuff just a question or suggestion
I would like to eventually cover 'everything' but with over 25 years of lore, it's probably too much to put into a single recap video. For now, I'm focused mostly on the more recent stuff, and with four major sets released per year, that's plenty to keep me busy. I suggest you check out "Ex-Plane-ing Planeswalkers" for a good general explanation on who the major characters are and how they move about the connected worlds of Magic's multiverse.
@@MagicArcanum Oh yeah I totally understand Herculean task no doubt. Maybe you could do a series or just a video on like new people coming into magic now and what they should know like a quick history for new people like highlighting the important things that's happened and key players. Since I'm relatively new to magic I want to know everything now lol. But I will definitely check out your recommendation! Thank you for that!
I think your opinions are fair but as a relatively new player the amount of things to learn and figure out about Eldraine was on par with learning about all the previous sets in Magic history, so for me it was more of the same. Looking through older sets after the fact really doesn't put a story together at all, as there are usually over 200 cards and how the hell am I supposed to know which ones are story cards? On top of that there is no official place to see all these cards together (only 3rd party sites) With new sets you get a lot of knowledge about story and whats going on from marketing and other players who learn different pieces of the story. I still get conflicting information about Magic's previous storylines and I maintain that Wizards of the Coast should release a "Story of Magic: The Gathering", an encyclopedia going set by set detailing everything that happened. They could do a volume for the previous set once a new set comes out or stay a certain number of sets behind as to not spoil or reveal anything coming in the future. They can also use this to retcon any inconsistencies from the past. As it stands Magic's story is more jumbled and hard to get into than even comic books these days.
Story cards are designated with a watermark behind the text box, or the words "story spotlight" in the black bar at the bottom of the card with the collector's information. You can see every card in an official gallery from Wizards of the Coast. You don't have to use a third party site if you don't want to. Here's the full gallery for Eldraine: magic.wizards.com/en/products/throne-of-eldraine/cards I agree the older stories were more confusing because much of the information was in printed novels that came with certain card packs, but up until recently, all of the story was available free online in weekly segments. You can still read a huge archive of that here: magic.wizards.com/en/story
It is kind of sad that the new Magic Arcanum videos are not reaching even 1000 views right now. Hopefully old viewers discover the new Magic Arcanum channel. While the video lacks some polish, I love it. I hope to see this channel continue.
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Seems to me Eldraine shares a similar issue with the War of the Spark story in that WotC and Kate Elliot were not quite in sync. It can be possible to think that she was given just enough information to craft a plot while the cards themselves were still in the R&D process/having their art created. I personally feel that Wizards needs to establish a bible with everything that a writer would need to follow in order to have certain elements make sense within the context of the art from the cards.
Totally agree with you about story and gameplay, when you can explain the story of the set through gameplay (like new Gerrard or Gideon Blackblade for example) it becomes memorable
Good to see you back ! As a note, in a medieval system, the loyalty and the politics are usually more centered around a person than to the state. The notion of statehood as we know it will only appear much later. That could explain the loyalty to the king and not to his wife, the throne-helder while he's away. Or, Wizards of the Coast dont like her. Either way :P
The swords were drawn in the book too, because the room with the mirror had undynes that could kill them. Also Linden is not respected at all, because people think she got rid of Kenreth to become a High Queen, even though she is completely steadfast. They never trusted her, because she was incredibly competent but gave up her chance at the knighthood to save the twins. It’s not that she had twins, it was acknowledged that she could take care of them even through the trials, but she knew she would die at Embereth and didn’t have the resurrection magic she needed to complete the trial. She was brave, just not in sanctioned combat. (Hell she saved her husband from a witch). Linden is definitely my favourite.
I don't remember them taking out the swords in the book. They did make note of the merfolk, but I think they were more worried about slipping in a puddle or being drowned when the room filled back up with water.
Whoops! Rowan had her magic out, not her sword. My mistake! Although I do believe my interpretation of Queen Linden still stands. Plus I’m irrationally attached to this set. I love the idea of the Kenereth family. They are just so good to one another. I feel like True Love’s Kiss could’ve been the moment with Linden kissing Kenereth and saving him from the witch, to tie back into the book. The separation of the MTG story from R&D is really hurting.
Ryan: Legendary creatures that flip into planeswalkers like the gatewatch in magic origins
Nicol Bolas, the Ravager: Am I a joke to you?
Ha, ha, Bolas...
Anyways, on a side note/question: have you tried Moonmist? It only works on the the gatewatch, except Nissa.
@@draxthemsklonst ok that has nothing to do with the joke
@@Don_Ratski
There, reread it.
Alright, everyone's already thinking it... I guess I'll be "that guy." *oKo ShOuLd HaVe JuST eLkeD GaRroK fRoM tHe StArT.*
But in all reality just think about it for a second....
Oko caused Will and Rowan multiple problems, altered people's memories, elked a LITERAL KING, got away Garroks scary lookin axe weildin ass, and wasted ZERO time planeswalking off Eldraine to almost single handedly ruin standard?!?!? Hes literally accomplished more since his debut then 32 of the 36 planeswalkers in WAR have; and yet has probably never heard the name Nicol Bolas before in his life. (Which is a blessing for Bolas...could you imagine Liliana controlling an army of dreadhorde 3/3 elk? Lol
Liliana elk gave me a good laugh!
How Garruk got rid of his curse annoyed me so much.
Also, I find ironic that Oko, the trickster planeswalker, is very easy to get very loyal to you on his card.
Well, there is another Oko card that's not broke
The "heroes and toys" deck concept reminds me of my Golos commander deck where all the big payoffs are other "lands deck" commanders. Almost all the legends that care about lands are in there.
Great to see a video so soon! Good stuff :D
14:34 you are not alone with this. Story and Lore are important to enjoy the game. It gives flavour to it. It really drives you to build a deck around specific cards, just because you enjoy having them on your battlefield. Gameplay is what makes you play the game. Story is what lets you stay for more. :)
Eldraine sounds a lot like Eldrazi. And if that really is Teferi on that one card... could this be foreshadowing that Teferi is an Eldrazi?!
I would love to see a recap of theros block especially since we’re going back in a couple of months but maybe that’s a video for a little later since we are so far out from it
Going back to learn about older sets....It's impressive how far you've come with production quality and just being comfortable. Well done, sir! Keep up the great work.
Thanks! It has been a long and difficult road but as we near 100k subscribers, it's all feeling worth it.
It is kind of sad that the new Magic Arcanum videos are not reaching even 1000 views right now.
Hopefully old viewers discover the new Magic Arcanum channel.
While the video lacks some polish, I love it. I hope to see this channel continue.
@@MagicArcanum I am perfectly fine with the lack of polish as I value the content more. I am glad that you are working hard and I thank you.
I love just listening to these in the back-round over and over again while sorting cards or doing class work or heck even just watching them! With the cards on the screen it still gives it an enjoyment factor of watching! I love these listening/watching them over and over again allows me to understand the story and, even find out somethings I might have tuned out the other times! Thanks for everything you do!!!
God i love this channel, please dont stop Ryan, the magic lore is such an unappreciated part of the game and your opinions and story telling means so much to me. Keep it up man, youre incredible and deserve a lot more views than you currently get.
i hope we see Oko again in a norse or viking setting he may make a good loki
They have to do a Norse set eventually, right? They've done Egypt and they've now done Greco Roman a few times, the next logical step is the Scandinavian Sagas.
@@alexanderforbes1452 i read somewher that in the roadmap is said this: for sure one set will be Innistrad, one set will be a pure d&d set (i guess different from the new zendikar?) And a norse mithology set (obv not in this order, thr norse one should come before the other 2)
11 months later: Norse set is a reality and will be the spring set
@@W-mans26 hop we see the god of mischief there
Yeah maybe like as a fake advisor for some type of king I hope
Within my custom sets, if a planeswalker’s spark ignites a decent way in the story and isn’t already going to be a double sided card, I start them out as a legendary creature.
Ryan, I certainly agree with you 100% that the story matters! I'm sure plenty of players could care less about it but having it all tie together between the cards and the story really makes for a better experience! I sure as hell wouldn't play this game if there were no artwork or story behind it at all. I love the mechanics but I need the pictures and tales to go with it!
You guys deserve more subscribers
Best kept secret on TH-cam.
We don't know in what timeline The Wildered Quest happens, right? Teferi on Eldraine is an extremely interesting theory.
Right? And since Garruk, Rowan, Will, and Oko were all missing from War of the Spark, it's more likely this came before it or after it, but almost certainly not during.
Intreductor Maybe Tef’s recruiting for the Gatewatch? I have reason to suspect that Eldraine comes before WotS. Garuk mentioned getting a warning to stay away from conflict.
@@halfpintrr Not likely, Teferi was with the Gatewatch the entire time since joining them on Dominaria up to WotS. Ajani went recruiting people.
I agree with you 100% on that the cards and the gameplay should (at least try to) go together. It makes it all the more enjoyable and I personally know a lot of people would play it more because they could identify with the deck (not just the color). Maybe that is what commander is all about.. (I wouldn't know, I'm a 2 year newbie who has only ever played standard).
Thank you for the awesome videos (very glad you guys upgraded the sound and the graphics as well), keep 'em coming!
I would love to hear the story about the THEROS plane (now that Gideon is dead/reborn), taking into account that that will be the coming set. Thanks again!
Thank you so much for sharing this story. I really appreciate it, & I always enjoy your stories. You really are amazing. 😊
Great video catching us all up with everything on Eldraine, and the editing is great, glad to see you are completely back to form. Also I want to throw in here that I am liking all of your videos to help in that way too.
The more I play magic and learn about the story the more I enjoy and care about flavor. That's why I've been loving these magic arcanum videos, learning more about the cards I play with makes me enjoy playing with those cards more. When I really like a card, especially a legendary creature and especially especially a planeswalker I like to look up their backstory, and when there isn't any or what there is is very sparse it's a disappointment. Which Fae cursed Korvald and where was he the King of? What's Chulane's deal, who is he telling tales to? I know they have dedicated people for the flavor and the world building over at wizards so I sometimes can't help but wonder what those people actually do.
Nice video, I liked the point about Alesha
Man I'm so glad I found you again. Gonna watch all your videos with my TH-cam red. It ain't much but I hope it helps.
Once I move I'll probably become a Patron! These videos are some of my favorite content on TH-cam ^^.
I appreciate all you do for thre MTG lore and thre community.
SWCCG Mains and Toys!
SWCCG is still one of my favorite CCGs to this day.
Dude I could listen to tell a story forever!!
Guess who found a new Playlist to put on while I work. I really do agree, if it's a story based card game, you should know how it goes from the game. Lorywn felt like a great one for that.
I had no idea there was The Truth of Names story to give Alesha her name. Great story, and a fierce warrior. Even not being trans myself, of any kind, I love what they did with her.
How cool would it have been if Rowan and Will were legendary creatures and they fused into a flip Planeswalker?
Would have been awesome use of Meld, I agree!
You guys are amazing, the best mustache in the multiverse is yours indeed
Stay strong Ryan- you guys are very entertaining and I enjoy the channel. I'd recommend throwing any possible leftover budget (literally anything) into marketing. good luck!
I love these lore videos, please do older lore, like Urza/Mishra, the first Phyrexian invasion, the thran, The weatherlight etc!
A great update on your last Eldraine video
10:35 - You can save Kenrith from his transformation with a True Love's Kiss, so that must mean that Linden goes out into the woods to go kiss a deer
Honestly that would have been better than what does happen in the book.
Thank you for the video i'm catching up with all the new videos of the channel,the Lore is amazing (mostly🤣) thank you for your work
Thanks for making this! They really did drop the ball hard with this set's narrative. Just from the cards, I had absolutely no idea what was going on in the story. And that's disappointing that the problem is basically made worse AFTER reading the book... Ugh. I really hope they get their act together for Theros, my favorite plane
I love the Magic Lore that I can only find here, on Magic Arcanum. ;D
Alesha is so cool!!!!
I indeed recognized that Oko turned Kenrith into an Elk just by playing the cards but I didn’t even notice that Garruk got freed from the curse. I would never have guessed that Linden or Rowan or Will saved their father or that they met Garruk or that Garruk met Oko if I didn’t watch this. ^^
And that part with Linden being rewarded for attacking is a really bad idea from wotc if they don’t explicitly mention in the book that she now tries to please Embereth.
As a Timmy, I can't agree more about the lore aspects of the game. I collect several tribes, based only on lore, and allways create decks based on theems
Dammit, Oko even managed to turn the story of Magic into a 3/3 elk with no habilitys.
AT 8:20, that's not a reference to all year, it's referring to the Summer and Winter courts of the Fae.
I was wondering what had happened to your bit in TCGplayer. That is quite cold in my opinion. I am so glad that I just happened to stumble on your videos because Magic Arcanum and Pretty Deece were the the only reasons I had subscribed to TCGplayer. Good luck and go get ‘em.
10:04 if that's Teferi, then Kibler really did just Murder that guy on Inestrad.
Ok this made me laugh out loud for real
It's a shame that so much of the story isn't told in the cards. One of my favorite sets for all time will probably be War of the Spark, and part of that is because how they unveiled the cards, and told the story in them.
Still going through videos, and this revisit to Eldraine is really awesome. A shame the cards and story don’t totally line up, but I do think the cards have a sort of... bare bones structure to them.
Admittedly the thing I like about the cards in this set is how you can really tell what each kingdom values from their cards. Like you pointed out with the blue cards and how it shows they like knowledge. The knights of Ardenvale are also extremely fascinating to me and I’d love to see more of them.
Your stance on Legendary creatures make sense to me too. I’m gravitating more towards the Godzilla Ikoria versions of the Apex creatures, simply because I know them. Illuna May be a dream weaver but I didn’t get much info on that from the game or book, so I’ll go with the version of the card that had a movie about them recently and pretend they crash landed on Ikoria, haha.
Let's not forget that the trailer for this set was all about gingerbread people for no apparent reason.
Teferi is a chronomancer; violating causality is his specialty. So, yeah, that could totally be him lurking in the shadows.
I do get your point about story and gameplay segregation. It bothers me when any game has big gaps between the two, whether it’s a card game, an RPG, or a video game.
Lastly, I wish I had known sooner you split off into your own channel! I was wondering why I hadn’t seen any vids from you in a while. Happy to sub to your new channel.
Alesha Who Smiles at Death meant a lot to me.
Can't wait for Lair of Behemoths. Hopefully gonna see my green boy Garruk back in action hunting big beasties maybe along with Kiora.
This set was weird how it didn't overlap very strongly. The primary focus of the set just seemed to be to put a bunch of stuff on cards so you can "build your own fairytale". Maybe they'll revisit eldraine someday, but maybe eldraines role is one of being a one off player inspired (based on known fairy tales and such) set not a lore inspired set. I bet in the next sets they'll go strongly back into lore
Great videos! I'm a very casual MTG player and these videos just make me love the game a lot more!
Would love to see an episode for "who is Ajani"
He's on our list :-)
Did not know you guys split from TCG player. Glad I found you again! Sad grumgully isn't in the book :(
People go to the old Videos from TCGplayer
and comment: there's a new Magic Arcanum channel so everyone gets over here that dont know about this one!
I really would like to see some video about actual ways to read magic lore: books, comics, etc.
And also, really great video. Thank you very much for small montage and showing cards.
That's a great idea and I'll add it my list of topics to cover. Thanks!
Loving the new groove
Once upon a time there was a man named Oko. He threw food and elks at your face until you died. The end.
13:30 "the more you know about a character, the more you identify with them, and the more likely they are to be your favorite."
I have a counter example: Sorin
Sorin was my favorite character when I first started playing Magic, I saw him as this fabulous vampire that ruled over the plane of Innistrad
then I read the story, and I discovered that he's a dick, not even edgy, just a dick for no reason, and I hated him after that.
Omg! I still play SWCCG. Best game. Ever.
Great Story! Eldraine is such a flavourful place, I could listen to it's story all day long :D
Just a bit sad to hear, that the cards don't reflect the story that much :/
Hope you grow your numbers fast!
Maybe some noise dampening panels for the walls? Audio seems not up to your previous standards. My son and I love the content though! You two are Legendary Lore Mages
I've been recording in a different environment almost every other week at this point, but once I settle into my next real house, things should be more stable and then I will start to dial in my sound design. Thanks for your patience!
I had a prediction that Garruk would show up on Kaldheim (whenever we get there) as a Jund-colored Barbarian King. I was a little disappointed when I saw that he was going to lose B from his color identity.
Given MaRo said he wanted players to tell their own endings to the story, I'd kind of wish there were multiple ways to undo Kenrith's being turned into an Elk. But I think there's only 1 card that can undo either Oko's ability, or the transformation - Charming Prince.
True Love's Kiss can also undo the enchantment but not Oko's ability, but you're right, it does feel very forced.
@@MagicArcanum I can't help but think that if they *really* wanted to build the story around this; Oko'd make an aura token, and they'd give each color an answer to that aura. G, W disenchant; U bounce, B kill then return, and not sure what R would do... bounce aura an opponent controls? Put the answers at (U) and I think it'd be a really neat way to "influence the story." This'd work with TrappedinaTower and Sleep; maybe do a tight cycle of 1C "answer" auras... Curse of Shocking your creature each turn, So Tiny but not mill-dependent, black stab wound variant, Trapped in a Tower, and then... I guess... Kenrith's Transformation? An aura that kept giving the creature's opponent's food would be interesting.
Great to see more of your videos! (More eye contact please!)
That gets fixed in my next video and will get even better once I get my prompter working again. Thanks for your patience :-)
Love your vids keep up the content
I wanna believe oko is a MTG Loki and it'll open up a way for a Norse themed realm but I ain't holding my breath
Sooo how does it feel being a prophet?
@@reubenfromow4854 its sucks cause I also called secret randevue. when a draw three in white was spoiled me and my buddy were joking like you draw 3 and so does each opponent but we also said things like draw three then put 5 cards back on top of your deck in any order and if you can't you lose the game
Great work
When I play mtg, I like having a cool deck with lots of synergy, that's why I like tribal decks. And I like the life just because it's fun and there are lots of characters and worlds.
Legendary creatures? Meh, they usually are crappy or op in standard. Thing is, if they are legendary and important, they as a creature are very easy to remove. A planeswalker or an enchantment on the other hand, I think are better to represent important lore stuff since they stay in the battlefield longer. Sagas and the oaths were pretty fun.
Buuut, legendary creatures are great in another format, EDH. The fact that you can re cast them makes them more important. If you have a favorite character from the lore and want to play with it, play edh. Standard or modern? Not so much
Apparently Gadwick has Bone to Ash in his library.
I mean they did make a single double face card for core 2019 w/ Nicol Bolas, the Raveger
Wait why didn't the vantress paladins went to seek help from the magic mirror even though that is litterally their artifact
I assume they did but they didn't have any new secrets to trade to the mirror that would get it to show what happened to the King.
It is a shame that the people writing the lore and those designing the cards don't communicate more. I think WotC needs to start really integrating the lore and card design teams' input much sooner in the set design process. The impression I get is that there are a couple people high up in the design department who roughly hash out the broad strokes of the story and maybe a handful of key characters. They then pass this bare bones outline to two desperate teams that communicate little, one that works on fleshing out a proper story for the set and the other which designs the cards.
This is a recipe for a disaster when it comes to trying to get your story line and the sets flavor to form a cohesive picture.
Can we get some lore on the Phyrexians?? Thanks!
Cuz I’ve got a lot of Phyrexian stuff, and I wanna make a preator commander deck...but I know almost nothing about them apart from they’re evil and like sharp objects.
Good stuff, thanks boss.
Too sad we don't see the cookie-lady from the Eldraine Ad in the book OR the cards :/
You keep mentioning previous eldrain videos but this seems to be the first on the channel. Are there unlisted videos that would be helpful in understanding the lore of each set?
I did several videos for the TCGplayer channel while I was working there. Here's the one on Eldraine: th-cam.com/video/fNmsmVZQh5A/w-d-xo.html
Elwyn eventually promoted to become Syr Elenora, a legendary knight?
Still wouldn't explain the unicorn!
"If you ask the average Magic player to explain the story of Eldraine, just through their experience playing with the cards..."
Average Magic player: "Well, there was an elk..."
A lot more detail about the lore of the plane was released: magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/planeswalkers-guide-eldraine-2019-10-31
It's nice to see the lore behind some cards explained better.
This was a delightful surprise, yes!
Star Wars TCCG!!!!! I played that back in the day and didn't even look at MTG. I kick myself now for not picking up MTG then and waiting almost 25 years later to start playing.
I find the set fun to play but like someone else said, it felt rushed. Not as coherent like Ixalan or latest return return to Ravnica.
I'm at brand new to your channel and I just watched this video and I was wondering if you have a series on the overall story of magic like the lore like maybe if you don't you can do a whole series on explaining the whole story so far like from beginning to current I don't even know if that's a possibility cuz I know old magic is very scattered but I would love to be able to you know watch a video or series and learn about you know all the characters and all the planeswalkers and stuff just a question or suggestion
I would like to eventually cover 'everything' but with over 25 years of lore, it's probably too much to put into a single recap video. For now, I'm focused mostly on the more recent stuff, and with four major sets released per year, that's plenty to keep me busy. I suggest you check out "Ex-Plane-ing Planeswalkers" for a good general explanation on who the major characters are and how they move about the connected worlds of Magic's multiverse.
@@MagicArcanum Oh yeah I totally understand Herculean task no doubt. Maybe you could do a series or just a video on like new people coming into magic now and what they should know like a quick history for new people like highlighting the important things that's happened and key players. Since I'm relatively new to magic I want to know everything now lol. But I will definitely check out your recommendation! Thank you for that!
Was rewatching the video and got me thinking...do you think Teferi and Liden are related? 🤔🤔🤔 Siblings? Cousins?
I think your opinions are fair but as a relatively new player the amount of things to learn and figure out about Eldraine was on par with learning about all the previous sets in Magic history, so for me it was more of the same. Looking through older sets after the fact really doesn't put a story together at all, as there are usually over 200 cards and how the hell am I supposed to know which ones are story cards? On top of that there is no official place to see all these cards together (only 3rd party sites)
With new sets you get a lot of knowledge about story and whats going on from marketing and other players who learn different pieces of the story. I still get conflicting information about Magic's previous storylines and I maintain that Wizards of the Coast should release a "Story of Magic: The Gathering", an encyclopedia going set by set detailing everything that happened. They could do a volume for the previous set once a new set comes out or stay a certain number of sets behind as to not spoil or reveal anything coming in the future. They can also use this to retcon any inconsistencies from the past.
As it stands Magic's story is more jumbled and hard to get into than even comic books these days.
Story cards are designated with a watermark behind the text box, or the words "story spotlight" in the black bar at the bottom of the card with the collector's information.
You can see every card in an official gallery from Wizards of the Coast. You don't have to use a third party site if you don't want to. Here's the full gallery for Eldraine: magic.wizards.com/en/products/throne-of-eldraine/cards
I agree the older stories were more confusing because much of the information was in printed novels that came with certain card packs, but up until recently, all of the story was available free online in weekly segments. You can still read a huge archive of that here: magic.wizards.com/en/story
One for the algorithm.
*nudge* i may be mostly useless, but I can like and comment everything to get that algorithm a little more excited about you.
you forgot the decklist...
i'm sad...
:,(
please do a Kamigawa story vid!!!
That one is highly requested so it's on our list, for sure.
Please do New Phyrexia! Koth is dope af
What the cards the are showing the present and spot light cards showing the past
*looks at title*
Elks. Elks *everywhere* .
You're not wrong.
I just realized magic arcanum split off
17:20 he could use bone to ash
embercleave is not a name, bc its what it is: it hits like embers
It is kind of sad that the new Magic Arcanum videos are not reaching even 1000 views right now.
Hopefully old viewers discover the new Magic Arcanum channel.
While the video lacks some polish, I love it. I hope to see this channel continue.
Is there a reason that they had to make their own channel? I honestly just noticed this video was on a new channel after reading your comment. lol
@@PremPnamNam I have no clue. Tcgplayer recently laid off large number of their staffs, so I assume the departure had something to do with that.
Legit didn’t even know that there was a new channel until yesterday
I just found this channel today. I hope others do too
youtube's algorithm is working. I just got directed here!
Bounty hunters and toys for the win.