What Happens in Kaldheim?

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  • Our first visit to the plane has a lot going on, with new and returning planeswalkers, a huge supporting cast, and adventure spread out over many of Kaldheim's realms. The Story Spotlight cards can help us understand things, but even with so many in the set this time around you might still be left wondering "What Happens in Kaldheim?"
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  • @TheJovenshire
    @TheJovenshire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +494

    From one mustached storyteller to another, this is hands down the best breakdown of the Kaldheim story.

    • @DraconicWF
      @DraconicWF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was about to say “you play magic?” Then I remembered you’re a nerdy glasses man.

    • @Apollosun97
      @Apollosun97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This post gave me a wave of nostalgia I wasn't ready for.

    • @colinpaul2146
      @colinpaul2146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did not expect you here but a welcome surprise to be sure.

    • @Xiphosedoesmc
      @Xiphosedoesmc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      HI JOVENSHIRE

    • @SquirtMcGirt
      @SquirtMcGirt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      t 0

  • @cameronkasady9166
    @cameronkasady9166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +522

    Ryan: "There was also no mention of the shapeshifters..."
    The shapeshifters: "But how do you know that for sure.....?"

  • @TheAzulon
    @TheAzulon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    Everyone - There is a phyrexian infected planeswalker around! Oh no!
    Magic - It is Tibalt!
    Everyone - Oh, it's fine then, no real threat there.

    • @W-mans26
      @W-mans26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Here comes ashiok!

    • @greenscalekingdom3143
      @greenscalekingdom3143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hahaha, he is like Bizarro Superman lol.

    • @kyoken8691
      @kyoken8691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      But unless the phyrexians have finally reverse-engineered the planeswalker spark (something even Yawgmoth was never able to do), then Tibalt should be immune to the infection. It's the reason Bolas sent Tezzeret to New Phyrexia in the first place as a sort of ambassador/spy. But yeah fk Tibalt, maybe he'll be a more compelling villain once he's a phyrexian hybrid planeswalker.

    • @demarge1065
      @demarge1065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The problem is more that planeswalkers have a habit of leaving some of the phyrexian infection everywhere they go

    • @TheAzulon
      @TheAzulon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@demarge1065 We are forgetting the most important part - Vorinclex used a portal to get to Kaldheim - Phyrexians already seem to be able to travel through planes.

  • @elliot288
    @elliot288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    Last time I was this early, Tibalt was the worst planeswalker in the game.

    • @W-mans26
      @W-mans26 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tibalt: not for long the future

    • @hoshi314
      @hoshi314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      funnily enough i want to see Tibalt vs Oko in Trickery fights now

    • @Noisius
      @Noisius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And now he is destroying formats xD

    • @joshuamarvin7400
      @joshuamarvin7400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? I recall Tibalt decks ranging from just generally good to downright trollish.

  • @and_also_aaron3372
    @and_also_aaron3372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    Yeah, Kaldheim went from Mandalorian to Avengers: Endgame REAL fast.

    • @Pistolsatsean
      @Pistolsatsean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Dude can you write magic story I would much rather follow each praetor as they appear on planes across the multiverse to do collection quests for Norn then watch a couple walkers and gods faff around!

    • @jasonbolding3481
      @jasonbolding3481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Both the world of Kaldheim and the story they created for Kaldheim just seems too big and complicated for one set.Even the card themselves have a lot going on. This really should have been multiple sets, visiting new planes (which is now rare) shows the problem of the lack-of block design

    • @garmatey3816
      @garmatey3816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jasonbolding3481 Yea but we have to have an ENTIRE set for just vampires and an ENTIRE set for just werewolves for a plane that we've already had 5 sets from.

    • @Case2_0
      @Case2_0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So basically every season of agents of shield

    • @and_also_aaron3372
      @and_also_aaron3372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jasonbolding3481 I feel like it's a very complex problem to solve. It's easy to see that the Vorthos perspective has been gone for some time from MtG. Sets are mostly "What if [insert already existing story/mythology] was a whole plane? Sets are smaller with more reprints to get them out the door faster. Stories and lore are just kind of an afterthought to the "rule of cool".

  • @Totosliderz
    @Totosliderz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    You know, the worldbuilding of Kaldheim is amazing. The seting, the Gods, the different races and their struggles are all awesome. BUT the story is a mess. This is a world that would benefit greatly as a two-set story. It just feels so rushed and trying to include eveything in the same scene makes it more difficult to appreciate the characters.

    • @themtgnerd5811
      @themtgnerd5811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Can from Lrr said it best that this is someone’s dream DND world

    • @bstachutheuneatable1727
      @bstachutheuneatable1727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have they confirmed this is a one set plane tho?
      Bc if Tibalt is working w/ Phyrexia, it could be interesting if some of the other recent one offs were revisted with them being converted. Eldrain is perfect for a show off with Sheoldred as some sort of evil witch & a converted Kogla sounds dope.

    • @EvilCherry3
      @EvilCherry3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That the problem for many planes actually. I even think 3 sets should be the minimum for introducing any new plane.

    • @medramonmasquedecendres2966
      @medramonmasquedecendres2966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      From some times now, the settings are good and full of potential, but the story is always a mess

    • @tylerkister4628
      @tylerkister4628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@themtgnerd5811 I'm planning to use it in my new campaign

  • @byoutifulmonster
    @byoutifulmonster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    "Felt epic, but hollow" the magic story in a nutshell this past year

  • @scottkane4113
    @scottkane4113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    A lot of good points made with the Mustache Minute. My main criticism of magic storytelling over the years is the dependency on planeswalkers. I feel like they should play a more supportive role than a main role. Reading some of the comments and listening to the commentary a lot of common themes come up that tons of cards or themes from the set are not featured in the story. And I feel that's because they're using planeswalkers to take that place. So characters we've seen over and over are the main feature and we don't get to see anything about shape shifters, Giants or other gods in this case.
    I feel like the characters on the plane should take precedence and be the feature and planeswalkers could be there either to help because they happen to be there but them taking over the story is really frustrating. When I read the book from the Odyssey set it was all about the characters who live there casting spells and fighting each other not planeswalkers from other places coming in and fixing the planes problem.
    It's kind of like reading an X-Men story but Goku comes in to save the day for some weird reason.

    • @danacoleman4007
      @danacoleman4007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      YES!!!!!

    • @auberry8613
      @auberry8613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Though it may be acceptable for a planewalker to be the main character if it's their home plane

    • @jacobd1984
      @jacobd1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't have a problem with planeswalkers being the focus of stories, but it shouldn't be every story. Especially on brand new planes. WoTC used to switch stories between planeswalkers and the denizens of the planes in terms of who a particular story would focus on, not it's just all planeswalkers all the time, and the problem is, sometimes (often) the planes and their people are just more interesting.

  • @yagosouza7381
    @yagosouza7381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    "Tibalt was there to create a story to remember"
    Tibalt: Hey guys, remember that time I countered a spell with red mana and it turned into a cosmic plane-razing eldrazi? Good times...

    • @fluk9149
      @fluk9149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lmfao

  • @wingshad0w00982
    @wingshad0w00982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    The story: Alright lets hunt a phyrexian in Valhalla
    The phyrexian: Runs away
    The story: Ragnarok happens
    Me: Wait, what? Where did Vorinclex go
    The epilogue: Oh. Shit. OH SHIT.

    • @triopsate3
      @triopsate3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I'm hoping that Vorinclex secretly left some glimmering oil in the cosmos elixir. Imagine if the next time we came back to Kaldheim all the gods turned into Phyrexian praetors.

    • @Ganjamuffins
      @Ganjamuffins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@triopsate3 imagine if that was the second set of the block...

    • @KingGruesome74
      @KingGruesome74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@triopsate3 😯🥴

    • @carsonirons1849
      @carsonirons1849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vorinclex was on some real gang shit jumping someone in their home and stealing their drink before dipping

    • @lolbots686
      @lolbots686 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@spectre3926 emrakul:*exists*
      Vorinclex:oh thats a eldrazi. ...OH. OH NO.

  • @briankuczynski6884
    @briankuczynski6884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    You really drove home something here that I just realized: magic's storywriting team is still thinking much more in terms of 2 or 3 set blocks, while the play design team has more successfully switched to single-set mechanic choices.

  • @dreadredbaron
    @dreadredbaron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    We really need multi-block sets back. These stories are shallow and cards overpowered, The best in several planes are a bad mix.

    • @ThatJakers
      @ThatJakers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I agree, they have tied the sets together with a unifying mechanic (double sided cards for Zendikar Rising, Kaldheim, and Strixhaven) what if they also told a loose or themed narrative over those three sets? From a gameplay perspective I prefer no multi block sets, but you are right, these stories lack soul. A spark if you will.

    • @MenwithHill
      @MenwithHill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, the pace of the story truly suffers badly from the current model. Every one of these latest sets would have benefited from it.

    • @jamesrochester2459
      @jamesrochester2459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To each their own but no thanks. Limited has been consistently better since getting rid of small expansions and I'm not seeing the correlation between power level and distribution model. It's not too many planes it's wotc pushing its new mechanics, which also happened with expansions. Cascade? Anyway I like the variety and don't at all miss 6 months of thematically monotonous blocks like Scars of Mirrodin.

    • @dreadredbaron
      @dreadredbaron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The reason we need multiple blocks set is so that the new mechanics can be properly tested and scaled. Scars suffers from phyrexian mana, you know that one mechanic that, was only in that one part, of the set, New Phyrexia.

    • @franky_saint
      @franky_saint 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Rioxma As far as the Party support goes, I can understand that Changelings were implemented into Kaldheim just for this reason but really doesn't feel. . . natural to the lore.

  • @PlussGoodFun
    @PlussGoodFun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    i think one reason why the story seemed off is that the direction is split, on one hand they want to just tell good self contained stories for each set, on the other they want to set up for war of the spark 2: Phyrexia in 10 or so years

    • @SolValour
      @SolValour 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Only to have d phyrexia lost to d power of friendship n social justice.
      Or pull an effin emrakul

    • @joto5459
      @joto5459 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      haha 10 or so years? More like 2-3!

  • @MrTroxel
    @MrTroxel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Ok wait wait, even if we (safely) assume that the trolls and elves don't know Tibalt isn't who he says he is, they still think they're talking to the god of lies! These armies are confronted by someone whose main character trait is being dishonest, and then believe him about going to fight in a huge war? WHAT?!
    Excellent video though, well done Ryan!

    • @indrafides2648
      @indrafides2648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The whole story was full of moments like that. Especially the end. If they typed: kaya suddenly turned and pulled a vizidrix from her butt. I wouldn't be surprised. The writing is 6th grade level with little depth

    • @Thannak
      @Thannak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fits with Norse myth though. Everyone knows Loki is going to make things worse but they roll with it anyway, Loki knows he’ll come off worse but he does it anyway. The gods are kind of more into the fun that fighting the chaos brings than averting it beforehand.

  • @juanchetumare
    @juanchetumare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Soooo... God phyrexians... Cool cool cool. **sweats profusely**

    • @jojotheswede8444
      @jojotheswede8444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *giggles with excitement*

    • @fluk9149
      @fluk9149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the phyrexians are so rad. can't wait for a new set with em!

  • @thegreentophat1641
    @thegreentophat1641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    I am a simple person that just wants Phyrexians, I see a Praetor and I am happy.

    • @amarauk9687
      @amarauk9687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ah, another man of culture

    • @Pepitobenito
      @Pepitobenito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You could say Vorinclex really, *ahem*, compleats the set.

    • @kyoken8691
      @kyoken8691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What if... (and I really hope this happens) we get 1 praetor per set and this is all a lead up to the war against New Phyrexia?

    • @thegreentophat1641
      @thegreentophat1641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kyoken8691 My thoughts exactly, If we follow that, by next year we will get back to new phyrexia

    • @georgekladis1305
      @georgekladis1305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kyoken8691 OMG if they give us Gin Gitaxias in Strinxhaven, that steals (lets say) the secret of cosmos magic and also goes back to New Phyrexia...I am buying a pallet of set boosters just for that :p

  • @jarmandog413
    @jarmandog413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Kaldheim was epic, but hollow: sounds like the first two Thor movies.

    • @MagicArcanum
      @MagicArcanum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Fully agree.

    • @Elspethknighterrant
      @Elspethknighterrant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagicArcanum Agree with most of the stuff being said except for Tibalt, basically he created god phyrexians and an epic battle doomskar event that everyone is talking about, so mission accomplished. Also the flavour text in many cards like revitalize and withercrown does a good job to flesh out some of those absent gods from the main story. I bet you are gonna have a field day with the mustache minute in the upcoming hogwarts set.

  • @АйдоралСмертестойкий
    @АйдоралСмертестойкий 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Urza: destoys Phyrexia 1.0.
    Vorinclex: well we cant have that happenin on Phyrexia 2.0. INDESTRUCTIBLE FOR EVERYONE!

  • @gael_le_cruel
    @gael_le_cruel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Yea unsurprisingly, I came to the same conclusion, that was a lot of cool shining stuff but extremely shallow overall.
    As everyone else, I'm excited to see the phyrexian threat coming back and plotting, but the rest is less than average imo.
    Lots of "cool 4th wall breaking" comments from Kaya that just found distracting and out of place, lots of deus ex machina moments, also Tyvar Kell is basically the perfect Mary Sue / shonen hero that is so carefree and talended that he succeeds at everything everyone else finds impossible and ... *yawn* sorry I'm bored.
    I can go on and on about how everything seemed to be on the nose and shallow but my last big comment is about kaldheim itself.
    As cool as it is overall, and many people may disagree with this point but I find it to be one of the most UNINSPIRED planes I've seen ever. It is litterally "norse mythology, the plane" with barely any twist on it, and I find it insulting, even "western tales, the realm" a.k.a Eldraine had more of originality in it (still not that much though).
    I really wish they stopped this trend of slapping "new cool shiny stuff" on our faces and instead focused on bringing more depth to their craft; even just with 2 set arcs as they used to do. Not only for the story, but also for the mechanics they add to the game. I feel like a lof of mechanics are created and abandonned on the spot while I feel like a lot of them have some potential for more support and that there remains a huge creative space.
    On the top of my head, I wish we could have had more companions; even if it is arguably one of the most broken mechanic of these recent years, I kinda liked the idea and I feel like there was some space for more ideas (for instance with companions that you could use not with deck list restriction but board state), and the same with foretell, party (I hate it but more support might have helped) and so on.
    And now, knowing that the next story will one more throw all this stuff out the window and possibly give us "Harry Potter, the plane", you might guess that I already hate it x)

    • @white_finch
      @white_finch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some people have speculating that Strixhaven will be more Hero Academia or the Charles Xavier School (X-Men) than Harry Potter, either way I think that Strihaven could be a mix of every "magic" schools in pop culture (like Ikoria was a mix of Godzilla, Sharknado, Attack on Titan and Pokemon) but following the already established schools of magic in D&D, they already mentioned transmutation as Tyvar's power

    • @greenscalekingdom3143
      @greenscalekingdom3143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be honest that's how Theros was too. Literally Greek mythology...

    • @greenscalekingdom3143
      @greenscalekingdom3143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianchristian2844 idk if you think about it all the characters in theros are similar to Greek characters.

  • @SeanteBrown
    @SeanteBrown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    So...wait a minute, lemme get this right: the phyrexians/praetors (the monsters of the midway) now have a sample of an elixir of immortality?!!? Am I the only one kinda shittin myself at the thought of a phyrexian gaining immortality or....?

    • @crabobserver
      @crabobserver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You will not be alone, if you join us.

    • @Adjagus
      @Adjagus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Neither the eldrazi nor Bolas were 'killed' in the story, just sealed away (if i am correct). So immortality is not a big issue i would guess.

    • @adammahoney9407
      @adammahoney9407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All will be one and i guess now gods

    • @lawrenceblade4437
      @lawrenceblade4437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adammahoney9407 Gods......Wait a minute.....OF F***.....YAWGMOTH!!!!!@

    • @near3d945
      @near3d945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think its the metal. Since the sword that can cut though realms was made from the free sap or something the tree make.

  • @stefanfranke1724
    @stefanfranke1724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The Mustache Minute is, like the Mustache in general, on point!

  • @matheuslisboa9369
    @matheuslisboa9369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Considering how bad the lore got lately, I think Kaldheim turned out alright, there's still a lot of room for improvement (a lot) but they're heading in the right direction, I hope the stories can go back to being good one day.

  • @CosmicErrata
    @CosmicErrata 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Esika was dying. I hope she doesn't die. She's wholesome.

    • @blud63
      @blud63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Seriously, who's gonna feed all them cats?!

    • @indrafides2648
      @indrafides2648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She lives in a hole in a tree with a squirrel... That so happens to have a sweet bubbler for the gods. I find her character terribly shallow

    • @CarmenCards
      @CarmenCards 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hope she gets banned in brawl though

    • @W-mans26
      @W-mans26 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CarmenCards me too she’s ruining my damn tyvar deck that I build with like all my wildcards because I like green...

    • @keenanevans7888
      @keenanevans7888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She was like 3 feet from an elixir of immortality (pun intended) worst case shes all scarred up and badass now

  • @TheChalatubaco
    @TheChalatubaco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Waste of good characters designs, i also expected do see Garruk there, i believe he was be a better fit than Kaya.

  • @jayrks
    @jayrks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My suspicion is that this story is the story team slowly trying to erase and forget War of the Spark: Forsaken where both the Kaya and Tezeret stories left off.

  • @andycancinos2461
    @andycancinos2461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is the real story.
    There was snow...
    The end

  • @zackwalker2172
    @zackwalker2172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Who's helping the phyrexians move between planes" its tezzeret.

  • @NexusF8
    @NexusF8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My prediction for not seeing the god of death is that he was there but had no reason to reveal himself since all he's there to do is guide the dead

  • @greenscalekingdom3143
    @greenscalekingdom3143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow, I would like to take a guess and say Tezzeret is the one behind the schemes. He is helping the Phyrexians, and he hired Kaya to kill Vorinclex. As well as he sent Tibalt there to cause some chaos. Also it would be cool if Tyvar, Niko, and Kaya went on a journey together. Those three seem like the new Jace, Gideon, and Chandra.

    • @donb7519
      @donb7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      why is he helping the phyrexians and lazav at the same time tho. And please no more kaya any one but her

    • @greenscalekingdom3143
      @greenscalekingdom3143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@donb7519 Its Tezzeret. No one but him knows why he does what he does. He wanted Nicol Bolas to lose, even though he was helping him. Somewhere down the line from when Bolas resurrected him and now he could've been infected. He was on Mirrordin when the Phyrexians were invading it.

    • @donb7519
      @donb7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@greenscalekingdom3143 i mean everyone who worked with bolas wanted him to lose tez was just playing both sides like them and it still ignores the ravnica stuff

    • @greenscalekingdom3143
      @greenscalekingdom3143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donb7519 I have always felt they never finished the fight against new Phyrexia and Tezzeret for all we know had been on their side since he left New Phyrexia. I agree they never mentioned Ravnica in the story, but we dont know where they are going we can just guess. What would suck is if they use the elixir to revive Yawgmoth with Venser's body. Yeah his body is still on New Phyrexia😡

  • @koelkast9
    @koelkast9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wait so Kaya was defeated by some trolls after nearly killing Vorinclex, a goshdarn Phyrexian praetor.... wotc wth

    • @GoldenAla
      @GoldenAla 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stupid plot armor I tell ya...

    • @shinsua_
      @shinsua_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Two 4/4s beat a 6/6 on block, now don't they

    • @koelkast9
      @koelkast9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shinsua_ Yes and flying squirrels can beat an eldrazi titan and pigs are stonger than trained soldiers. But stats dont mean sh*t

    • @shinsua_
      @shinsua_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@koelkast9 Honestly, though, if Kaya was led to like the heart of troll territory, it seems a lot harder for an assassin-trained character, even a planeswalker, to deal with masses of giant dudes with landscapes on their backs, even if the other option is a praetor

  • @rodrigoalvarenga1314
    @rodrigoalvarenga1314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was literally searching it when the notification appeared, nice

  • @jhix9788
    @jhix9788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was so confused why I pulled verrexian out of the prerelease I think it’s cool to have that mysterious why he is there

  • @GoldenAla
    @GoldenAla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How kaya defeated a predator but everything in this frikin weak plane keeps almost killing her... I hate plot armor...

  • @novalightborn861
    @novalightborn861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I had only one Problem with the Story:
    Where was Angrath? Even a little chapter with him baking cookies together with his daughters would've been ok with me.
    Edit: Yeah, I mixed some things up. Angrath is (probably) not from Kaldheim. Thanks again @Francisco Wagner for pointing out my error. :)

    • @xicufwm
      @xicufwm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What? Is Angrath from Kaldheim? Where did you get this from? We don't even have minotaurs as a tribe in the set

    • @novalightborn861
      @novalightborn861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@xicufwm Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but in Ixalan he always remarked how he wanted to go back to Kaldheim and his daughters and in the last Story part from the Ixalan block its a short scene of him returning. In Ravnica with the immortal sun he also was sick of being stuck on this plane. Again maybe I'm remembering it wrong, or my brain is filling some blanks, but I always have it in mind like this.
      Edit: He once traveled to Kaldheim from Ixalan to test the strenght of the Immortal sun, but it was never stated, that it was his home. Even when he visits his home, it's never stated to be Kaldheim, so yeah I was wrong. Thanks for questioning my statement. Now I have no reason to be dissapointed anymore. :)

    • @harrison1735
      @harrison1735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My mental image of Kaldheim before it was announced was Garruk and Angrath fighting in the snow and neither showed up in the set.

    • @Adjagus
      @Adjagus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@harrison1735 Now is see them both fist fighting in red snow whit metal music in the background (and garruk having an amazing viking beard)
      That'd be metal AF.

    • @herobrinenightmare
      @herobrinenightmare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i would love a story to flesh out Garruk, i love the character so much but feel that there so much more before the chainveil arc, i know he was a farmers son, almost conscripted so he ran, grew closer to animals then humanity, was captured then like the badass brute, murders the warden and takes the helmet, while on innistad, liliana killed a beast which was his comparion so he tried to kill her but there still alot of him that missing like where is he from, how did his spark ignite, also if anything i think it would be maybe garruk vs tibalt, it happened in innistad before the curse consumed him, tibalt was causing trouble and attacked Garruk, he immediatly drops tibalt and tries the decapite him till tibalt walks away to live on, in kaldheim, Garruk may of being helping kaya or something, like the trolls, tibalt pissed them off and leaves Garruk and Kaya to fight, garruk and kaya beat them and follows, plays out the same till after tibalt drops the sword and flees, Garruk follows to another realm of kaldheim and fight tibalt where tibalt cant keep running from the hunter, something like that

  • @TippettRugby
    @TippettRugby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    100% agree with the Tyvar-Tibalt interaction being one of my favorite parts of the story. Even if these 5-part miniseries aren't perfect, they're so much better than the stuff we've been getting the past years, so I'll take the progress! And who knows, maybe there IS an overarching plan that will make Ikoria/Kaldheim/Phyrexians tie together, the red star-shaped portal could be a clue for future stories.

  • @usaagitsun6747
    @usaagitsun6747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Would be a neat twist if it turns out one of the characters was a shapeshifter"
    Actually, all of them are, unbeknownst to each other.

    • @MagicArcanum
      @MagicArcanum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      (spider-man pointing at spider-man meme)

  • @jdgrass6134
    @jdgrass6134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love hearing these stories, they are always interesting to hear about. And yeah I enjoyed some of the events on the plane. The ending makes me think that Phyrexians are coming back.

  • @marginis
    @marginis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Honestly, while the story of Kaldheim seems relatively disparate, I really like what they've done in terms of development. It seems like they've done really good setup work for a later return to Kaldheim (and even a return to Phyrexia should they go that way). They've made Kaya a bigger part of the story and given us an in to an otherwise unexplored new plane, and they've finally done something with Tibalt! I also really like that the flavor clicks without seeming overwhelming.
    Honestly, while there are story beats that could have been hit cleaner, and I sincerely am sad they didn't include Garruk in some fashion, I like Kaldheim flavor- and story-wise.

    • @marginis
      @marginis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Bo Kuen Tao Don't bring that shit in here. C'mon now.

  • @thatstratosplayer6887
    @thatstratosplayer6887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly I have never enjoyed a magic set as much as this since Dominaria and, with the inclusion of Phyrexians it is amazing! Thanks for helping me understand what is going on in the Magic Story!!!!!

  • @JCetto.2612
    @JCetto.2612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loved this video, the story of the set... not that much.
    I was expecting at least one battle between the gods, I like the idea of a new Phyrexian invasion, though.
    Loved the mustache minute, Ryan!

  • @Xitoshi
    @Xitoshi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Regarding characters missing from the story, I think I prefer that over the Dominaria quick pace and absurd name-dropping, trying to somehow mention all places and legendary creatures in just a few chapters.

  • @Ramipon
    @Ramipon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ryan: "There was also no mention of the shapeshifters..."
    The shapeshifters: "well excuse us for actually being competent at our one job!" :D

  • @2MeterLP
    @2MeterLP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really liked the side stories in this set. Especially the story about Arni was pretty awesome.

  • @GuyFromCanada
    @GuyFromCanada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kaldheim is really cool. The world building is really cool. The mysteries are really cool. The way it’s told is horribly messy

  • @roguepsykerhaaker4813
    @roguepsykerhaaker4813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know, whatever you think about the story we can all appreciate how amazing Arni's story was. That dude is actually the coolest thing

  • @Thickolas
    @Thickolas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The protagonist of our story is Kaya,"
    *Distant crowd booing*

    • @MagicArcanum
      @MagicArcanum  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Kaya has been one of the better characters lately. What's your problem with her, exactly?

    • @Thickolas
      @Thickolas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@MagicArcanum Still grieving for the Obzedat T_T

  • @zachcrouch168
    @zachcrouch168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I liked the aspect of the different realms. Most planes feel very small and compact and this reminded me of the days when everything happened on Dominaria and we really got to explore a huge world

  • @thomascassani8715
    @thomascassani8715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if Ashiok is helping the phyrexian planeswalk?

    • @shinsua_
      @shinsua_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "It was all a dream"

  • @morgandastrup6576
    @morgandastrup6576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It almost feels like Hour of Devastation leading into the War of the Spark.

  • @duncanmckenzie4770
    @duncanmckenzie4770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Am I crazy or was Niko Ares nowhere to be found despite being on so damn many cards

  • @mrveidt7260
    @mrveidt7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The cool things that I expect from Strixhaven is answers, cause that is what a school/university does, right?

    • @AdriWan
      @AdriWan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No, it gives you depression and maybe a diploma.

    • @mrveidt7260
      @mrveidt7260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AdriWan Fair enough, depression I already got, diploma I am working on it

    • @artgatherer3477
      @artgatherer3477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many people believe that Stixhaven will be like Hogwards but I imagine it more like the school from The Promised Neverland.

  • @maidenless_tarnished
    @maidenless_tarnished 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you applied for a position on the writing team? Might be the only way to get a cohesive story

  • @Kona_AJ
    @Kona_AJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ahhh dang! Story time!
    And I was gonna be productive this morning! Guess the work can wait until I'm done listening to my favorite loremage :)

  • @CenJohan
    @CenJohan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always like watching these because I can never get through reading the stories myself; the writers feel as if they are not really putting their best foot forwards. Anyway, it definitely seems like whoever storyboarded this plane wanted to tell too many stories at once but didn’t consider the fact that they only had one set to tell it. You’ve got tibalt and Vorinclex showing up to the plane for completely unrelated reasons coincidentally at the same time so Kaya can end up going from hunting one to the other. You also have Niko Aris who has his completely unrelated side story and whose character barely extends beyond “I wanna be a hero!” and an unimpressive card design. The two real stories that the writers wanted to tell were an awkward mix of self-contained plot that only deals with the specific plane and an attempt to set up a much larger confrontation with Magic’s last true big bad. I like the idea of setting up a larger story but the lack of multi-set planes leaves us with shallow stories that never give the writers enough time to do anything interesting. In the end, it’s just disappointing because Magic has had great stories with massive interconnected plots in the past, but now everything feels too isolated and the writing feels like it is trying too hard to be trendy.

  • @Mrtfarrugia
    @Mrtfarrugia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Harald rides off with the elves on a reindeer. Man Santa is going to be pissed

    • @W-mans26
      @W-mans26 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ... how many religions did you just damn flip off...

  • @impendio
    @impendio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I literally just wanted to know if Vorinclex got killed or not and I for one I’m glad he’s fine and healthy

  • @xicufwm
    @xicufwm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One more source of information about the set is the trailer. In the extended version, it looks like it's Inga who is giving Kaya the axes. 🪓🪓
    A lot of the trailer doesn't match the story :/

    • @thegreentophat1641
      @thegreentophat1641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And whatever happened to wolf and Inga facing each other.

  • @silence_dais
    @silence_dais 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see Oko and Tibalt have their own set where they're constantly trying to troll each other. In fact have that be an Un-Set thats Standard Legal.

  • @FantomMind
    @FantomMind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting dire story for the realm of humans. BUT, like you mentioned at the end, Tibalt's motivations are kind of lame. Guess there's a reason he's red and not blue.
    Vorinclex showing up already takes away from Kaldheim for me. It's the first time we're here and they immediately throw in main villains from a different plane.
    Yeah, Planeswalkers kind of do this anyway but I feel like they get a pass where regular creatures shouldn't. Maybe I need this to happen a couple more times for the normalization to kick in.

  • @marcelbehncke71
    @marcelbehncke71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Magic Arcanum 😁👑 Hey Ryan it's kings story time 😀👍🏾 a very very cool video again my friend. Good job 😊😎. Because of your video I like the plain now 😁👍🏾 thx a lot.

  • @moleculeman27
    @moleculeman27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly, I prefer it when the stories of sets are mostly independent. After years of the incredibly boring Gatewatch it's nice to see some new storytelling ideas. War of the spark very nearly made me quit magic.

  • @uberubben
    @uberubben 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Better Kaldheim Story: The Rowan twins' first planeswalk brings them to Kaldheim, Garruk follows them to his home plane, Oko follows Garruk bent of revenge for spoiling his fun on Eldraine. The Twins inadvertently cause a war by looking like Bretagard Humans arriving in Elven lands, not knowing what just happened (first planeswalk) and are suddenly surrounded by Elves (which they don't REALLY feel comfortable around due to their Eldraine upbringing) Garruk arrives elsewhere on the Plane and has to deal with his backstory while trying to find the twins while tensions between the realms continue to build. Oko discovers the exitance of the elixir of immortality and wants some for himself but needs to cause additional cause between the Gods to get close.

  • @TheAzulon
    @TheAzulon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll be quite honest, I like happy endings.
    Bad guys defeated, realms saved, that stuff (not without costs, to be clear, I'm ok with death and destruction along the way)
    So I'm still salty about New Phyrexia and how everything went there.
    If there is a chance of a new "New Phyrexia" big event that ends with them losing for good, I'm jumping on it.

  • @goncaloferreira6429
    @goncaloferreira6429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great breakdown, as expected. Also greta critique overall. Some thoughts:
    1-Mtg´s storytelling problems continue, some we can fault the writters, some are connected to the cards and business model themselves.
    2- mtg´s stories need consistency, variety and nuance. Writting for kids is fine, but some more mature and refined writing is not a bad idea. How we show wizzards that good stories sell/matter and that they need to step up their game?
    3- As per usual, this set story felt rushed, even more that has been the norm. Why present a story and immediatelly put it him so grave a danger? if we need to way years for something significant, at least use that time to build intersting worlds, characters and character interactions. Even if kaldheim´s story is fine, it would still benefit from a 2 block system. As do the introduced game mechanics, like foretell.
    5- Garruk was perfect for hunting a beast like Vorinclex. Serious fail.
    6- Did Kaya really need to be the protagonist? why not the new elf protagonist? we would be able to see the world through his eyes, local eyes. That would give him more development time. Also, as a native and an elf, i assume with some tracking skills, he would so a good job at hunting the beast.
    7- Did the gods really need to be here? Not all show up and the role of those who do deosnt seems all that fulcral.
    8- who hired kaya? i dont think we got an answer and it all feel like the raven man all over again. When will we get answers?
    9-On Tibault: they brought him back. was that necessary? he doesnt come across has an interesting character or villain. his MO and skill set remembers me of ashiok as he isnt a fighter and uses his adversaries fears against them. such overlap isnt good.
    10- when will we have stakes in mtg? the heroes never seem in real danger, feeling almost invencible, and the villains were not actually defeated or killed-both escaped. what was the point of this story again?

  • @JacobBos1988
    @JacobBos1988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Planeswalker shows up. Starts planar wide catastrophe. All inhabitants, gods and other divine beings sit twidling their thumbs and wait for other planeswalkers to save them.
    You know, like every story since 2010.

  • @poochy661
    @poochy661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I may be somewhat biased. as Norse Mythology is just folklore were I'm at, but I really liked the setting, both the similarities and the things WotC changed.
    While the story definitely could be better, I really liked seeing the Magic interpretation of Ragnarok - albeit a Ragnarok with a happy ending

  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna8494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the tyrite and the cosmos elixir, Vorinclex now holds the secret behind the Kaldheim gods' immortality and ability to travel between worlds - two traits that would enable New Phyrexia to expand through the multiverse despite not having planeswalker sparks..

  • @GBF963
    @GBF963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact about Tibalt is that he was hiding in kaldheim I read his "i was there to cause chaos anyway" like a excuse to not seem bad, the story is written from his point of view

  • @ridjf
    @ridjf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why couldn't Vorinclex just spit into the god immortality goop? We could've had heavy-metal viking gods!

  • @joeferreti9442
    @joeferreti9442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Horrible bad story writing! WotC should be ashamed!
    But thanks to Magic Arcanum for telling us the details.

  • @briochebrioche8976
    @briochebrioche8976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am waiting for the time when Wizards will run out of real life culture to copy and paste into Magic. This plane wasn't the worst, but it really felt uninspired.
    I also wish they would finally make story on cards and actual story fit together, this has been a problem for a lot of expansions now. I want to believe in you Wizards, come on

  • @aceundead4750
    @aceundead4750 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im still under the assumption that somehow Nicol Bolas is behind all of this, including the Ozolith on Ikoria. It's all part of some grand plan to return him to his Planeswalker form as a backup in case what happened during War of the Spark ended up happening. Seems like something my favorite bad guy would have thought about before starting the elderspell. He viewed the Eldrazi as nothing, so why would he worry about the Phyrexians, he wouldnt, he'd view them as just another tool to use in his grand plans.

    • @cfMegabaston
      @cfMegabaston 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i feel like it's more likely that emrakul is behind this (remember that she's not dead, but willingly sealed in a timetravel moon)

    • @aceundead4750
      @aceundead4750 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cfMegabaston Eldrazi on New Phyrexia. That's what the multiverse needs immediately.

  • @Improperman
    @Improperman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Isn't Yggdrasil supposed to be pronounced as "eeig dra seel"?

    • @otterfire4712
      @otterfire4712 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard it pronounced, "eeig dray zell."

  • @elfarcher7919
    @elfarcher7919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Omenkeel could be a reference to Skidbladnir - another magical boat from Norse myths that belongs to the god Freyr not really a God of the voyage like Cosima but he is said to be the lord of the elves so maybe some reference for the Einir in Kaldheim

  • @goreobsessed2308
    @goreobsessed2308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm calling it now it's probably Karn trying to make sure we don't have another new new phyrexia

  • @ultimeat
    @ultimeat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is nice to watch this back now that phyrexia sets are released, how it was unclear what is going to happen, how is it going to happen, the predictions in mustache minutes were actually spot on.

  • @joeymadsen1737
    @joeymadsen1737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tezzeret probably didn't transport the phyrexians because in mirrodin besieged, it was shown in the story that he didn't like the phyrexians or want to be there so that means he would not have any motive to help them

  • @impendio
    @impendio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need more info about the Shapeshifters and the Giants, by far the most interesting realms and we didn’t get anything out of them in the story :(
    I already watched this video but I’m rewatching it after reading some of the stories and going through the cards. Did you do a video on the stories being told by each saga? That could be nice as well!

    • @MagicArcanum
      @MagicArcanum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did a video on the sagas of Theros Beyond Death but haven't done one for Kaldheim. I'll try and fit it in :-)

    • @impendio
      @impendio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MagicArcanum Also, some more depth into the Cosmos Monsters, a huge part of the plane that was just ignored altogether. The Wolf, the Squirrel and the old gods, etc...

  • @fifthcanuck1128
    @fifthcanuck1128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES. I was looking for this video! Thank you guys, your summaries help so much!

  • @momokol366
    @momokol366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It irks me that the story keeps going back and forth on the rules and possibilities of planar travel for non planeswalkers.

  • @MyCaptain123
    @MyCaptain123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was great to listen the story of Kaldheim, thanks! What about Tergrim? Where is she in this battle at Kaldheim?

  • @simondsb
    @simondsb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too many stories, not enough resolutions? Did George R.R. Martin write this story?

  • @nightalife
    @nightalife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m just waiting for ashiok to show up again with all the phyrexians behind them

    • @evang7954
      @evang7954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ashiok and tezzeret. Best scary boys duo

  • @harrison1735
    @harrison1735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oko had a bit more personal stake in his mischief-making because it was with the goal of pitting the civilized Realms against the Wilds and he was on the side of the Wilds. Tibalt is just causing trouble for the fun of it.

  • @michaelfong1813
    @michaelfong1813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All these realms makes me think this set is just a snowy version of Alara...

  • @KountKristyl
    @KountKristyl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's almost as is one set isn't enough time to explore the story and possibilities presented by an entirely new setting...

  • @tablekun8690
    @tablekun8690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With this and ashiok were moving towards the phrexians returning soon.

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's one of the things that always irks me about legendary creatures. A lot of the time they are just that legendary creatures, no story relevance, no mention elsewhere. Like with Jorn, all we really know about him is that he likes ice, and the cold doesn't affect him, but he's still a god of Kaldheim

  • @modx5534
    @modx5534 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Fortunately, Kaya did not asked these questions." Made me laugh harder than it probably should have 🤣.

  • @ty_sylicus
    @ty_sylicus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What happens on Kaldheim?
    ....Nothing?

  • @michaelzolla6999
    @michaelzolla6999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ryan and Nicol, I’ve been waiting every day for this episode! Haven’t even watched yet but just wanted to let you guys know I’m so happy when you guys post 🙂 Truly the best channel. Thank you so much

  • @thatepicwizardguy
    @thatepicwizardguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tree sap -> resurrect yawgmoth, the most powerful impressive character in mtg history? hopefully. (bolas can suck it)

    • @jonathanmcgreevy6806
      @jonathanmcgreevy6806 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most underused iconic character 👍 would love to see Yawgmoth reborn

  • @SRaburrido
    @SRaburrido 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm just waiting for Davriel being the new professor in next coming Hogwarts plane. Or maybe taking an afternoon nap in Innistrad.

    • @MagicArcanum
      @MagicArcanum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would love more Davriel.

  • @raydelmartinez2905
    @raydelmartinez2905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many questions left to answer... Why can't they give us a proper complete story 😣.
    Thanks Ryan for the always entertaining stories.

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It warms my heart as I see the sub and view count numbers get bigger. You both deserve it. What a lovely show.

  • @WytchfynderGeneral
    @WytchfynderGeneral 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to pronounce Yggdrasill: try "ig" (like in pig) "dra" (like bra with a d) "sil" (like in silk)

    • @MagicArcanum
      @MagicArcanum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll remember that if I'm ever brave enough to try pronouncing it again.

  • @adamdenzinger576
    @adamdenzinger576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome I think they should go back to two or three set blocks. They had a better time fleshing out story among multiple sets, rlather than trying to squeeze it all into one.

  • @willlindell8904
    @willlindell8904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kaya asks Harold about Tyvar, who sees him playing jump rope with Varragoth's sword, and says, "He looks like he's having the time of his life." and that is why Tyvar is my favorite Kaldheim Character

  • @muffZor89
    @muffZor89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so glad i found this channel! Honestly the stories have so many loose ends at this point that makes them hard to follow. But magic arcanum makes it so much easier to follow! Will enjoy this channel forever and ever.

  • @willlindell8904
    @willlindell8904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not saying Tibalt and Oko are the same character, but we've never seen them in the same place

    • @melus5585
      @melus5585 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to see them interact with each other, and I would really like to know more about Oko's homeplane.