MJ & Bulls weren't unlike Brady & Pats, everyone wants credit, talks LeBron vs MJ - Doug | THE HERD

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  • Doug Gottlieb joins The Herd to talk with Colin Cowherd about what he thought of the 1st two episodes of NBA Legend Michael Jordan's documentary "The Last Dance". Gottlieb clarifies some misconceptions about Scottie Pippen's contract, and draws comparisons between the Chicago Bulls of yesterday and the New England Patriots of today. Plus Gottlieb touches on the popular comparison between Michael Jordan and LeBron James.
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  • @TheHerdOnFS1
    @TheHerdOnFS1  4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are your thoughts on the first two episodes of “The Last Dance”?

    • @deandreray3500
      @deandreray3500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Herd with Colin Cowherd same thoughts MJ always will be the GOAT

    • @ufd869
      @ufd869 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Something fishy with your host. He had access to all 10 episodes, didn’t he?

  • @mikebannon1348
    @mikebannon1348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Michael Jordan is the GOAT of Any Sport in my lifetime and my childhood Icon. Its amazing That Colin seems to be backtracking from his LeBron > Jordan argument.

  • @ncb9354
    @ncb9354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Gottlieb is the ultimate contrarian dude every time cowherd says something he acts like he got some elevated level of knowledge that no one else understands

  • @keexko
    @keexko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember Peter Holt - owner of the Spurs - lamenting why they broke it up so early... Which is why he did his best to keep the Spurs together. I am looking forward to seeing the other episodes and learning more about Jordan's Bulls.

  • @MrWCLewis12
    @MrWCLewis12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Doug talking contracts was good stuff. I wonder what kind of endorsement deals Pippen was getting. Didn’t know Chicago gave cash for years after he was done too.

  • @rebelsoundz
    @rebelsoundz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dead headline. Dead argument. Let’s not make this about anyone but MJ

  • @deandreray3500
    @deandreray3500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    MJ is in a class of his own other then Kareem stop comparing him to LAMES!

    • @Zack_P_Panos
      @Zack_P_Panos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Deandre Ray bro I don’t think lebron is top 5

    • @stretch273
      @stretch273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sean laffey Jordan ain’t top 5

    • @arizonaFIREent
      @arizonaFIREent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stretch273 bird, jabber, magic, wilt and Duncan!!!

    • @nando628
      @nando628 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF duncan and wilt who played against me. Yikes lmao

    • @Maal7432
      @Maal7432 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Y’all are the worst.

  • @mikebannon1348
    @mikebannon1348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What seperates LeBron from MJ is not Championships or stats. Its not MVP or silly accolades. What seperates LeBron from MJ is the moment LeBron went to Miami to chase titles. He had a chance, to put Cleveland on his back and really make something special, like Jordan with the Bulls. Colin and Nick, LeBron with all his accomplishments will never gain light in the shadow MJ casts because of what MJ built. The GOAT is a title of Will, Perseverance, and Determination. MJ had those in spades. LeBron does not. That is what seperates them.

  • @iFreeThink
    @iFreeThink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I definitely could have been with a Desi in Texas, but it was so stressful for me.

  • @EAchank
    @EAchank 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Headline is the definition of SPIN

  • @cobrachannel100
    @cobrachannel100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    No no ... Bron is not even close. What does he do better than MJ? Stop it and dont say Rebounds or Assits. Not true. Check the offensive rebounds and turnovers for reference. There is nothing that Bron does that is better than MJ. Not even close...
    And then the audacity to say MJ "Offense" emphasize offense? Like MJ wasnt DPOY and 9time 1st team all defense????
    Laughable...

    • @GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.
      @GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you dont think Lebrons the better passer. You're offically delusional. And I put MJ at 1 all time.

    • @samrenzoberdandino4538
      @samrenzoberdandino4538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are insane, lebron is a better 3 point shooter, better passer, better rebounder, better teammate. Without pippen MJ is nothing but a laughable clown

    • @davidconejr4206
      @davidconejr4206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samrenzoberdandino4538 AMD YOU GIVE HANDJOBS TO HOMELESS PEOPLE

    • @davidconejr4206
      @davidconejr4206 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dexter Monson COME FROM A KID WHOSE PARENTS GAVE HIM UP FOR ADOPTION ...GTFOH ORPAH

    • @davidconejr4206
      @davidconejr4206 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dexter Monson I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU ...YOU ARE A ORPHAN AND NOW YOU WANT ATTENTION ...SORRY BUT I DONT BELIEVE IN CHARITY WORK

  • @bennygray5174
    @bennygray5174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jerry Krause is the most hated man in America change my mind

  • @iFreeThink
    @iFreeThink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Life is so simple... Even my computer and international business enjoying professor was Chinese.

  • @benjaminpadilla4857
    @benjaminpadilla4857 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The whipping boy of the 80s becomes the greatest of all TIME when all the big boys died out of the league.

  • @nomyhbk9999
    @nomyhbk9999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't beleive he is still comparing abt MJ and lebron.
    MJ was did more offensively and difeensively than lebron ever does. So, what is he saying abt lebron does more??? Yea he passes a lot me thats coz he doent have that killer instict to take the pressure shot. Every1 knows that.

  • @bradenmchenry995
    @bradenmchenry995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jordan’s bulls are one of the greatest dynasties ever but the patriots 20 years of dominance will never happen again in football. It’s impossible. Football is built to prevent dynasties

    • @davidconejr4206
      @davidconejr4206 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      OH PLEASE ...PATS CHEAT THIS IS NO A SHOCK

    • @bradenmchenry995
      @bradenmchenry995 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      david cone jr hello jets or bills fan

    • @gradyedwards8106
      @gradyedwards8106 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      david cone jr can’t cheat to win 6. 👐

    • @KanyeTheGayFish69
      @KanyeTheGayFish69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Braden McHenry they do cheat

    • @mazengwe28
      @mazengwe28 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      9 Superbowls, 6 titles, 11 straight AFC Championships, 19 out of 20 season in the Playoffs. = Patriots Dynasty

  • @33moneyball
    @33moneyball 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The old system was superior....minus the last decision to break it up which was obviously terrible, Krause was an amazing GM who helped MJ win specifically because he did what he thought was best. We look at player empowerment and realize the Bulls breakup wouldn’t have happened and cheer it. But we totally ignore all of the great moves from 90-97 that could have been prevented by an all powerful player. What if “LeBron” had said no to Phil Jackson or demanded a bad trade that weakened the team? Nick Wright would be on TV explaining why Phil isn’t the right coach and Scottie isn’t a true #2.

  • @SG1SportsNFL
    @SG1SportsNFL 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been a fan of Colin Cowherd for years now, and he inspired me to take the leap and start my own sports TH-cam channel. If you guys would please check it out I would really appreciate it. We have a weekly podcast, sports documentaries, and more awesome content.

  • @HighSecurityAlert
    @HighSecurityAlert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the 6:00 mark does he say LeBron couldn't win without Phil. What he smoking

    • @EASYEAF
      @EASYEAF 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Think he meant jordan, but this part of the problem we have with doug, he speaks without thinking a lot

    • @BaronM
      @BaronM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He meant Jordan.

  • @BroJ3221
    @BroJ3221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    just wanted to drop in and say that no one can stand Doug Gottliebs voice...carry on

  • @N0TYALC
    @N0TYALC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t think the bulls were ever caught cheating though

  • @PH-lr2mp
    @PH-lr2mp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike 10 1st team all NBA brono 1 and 1st team all NBA

  • @bkb04g
    @bkb04g 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Colin does not sound interested...at...all.... 8:18

    • @Black____
      @Black____ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cant blame him

  • @iFreeThink
    @iFreeThink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But he could have done everything I'm doing now and MORE.

  • @tangaraspeedgoda7436
    @tangaraspeedgoda7436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is nothing Lebron does better than MJ...not even passing the ball believing or not...

  • @1p4p_akqb99
    @1p4p_akqb99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    People act like LeBron is just a trash defender

  • @samuelhicks1268
    @samuelhicks1268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yall got it wrong jordan had the ability to adapt to a lesser role to maximize the players around him. Lebron couldnt adapt in miami hence the loss to the mavs dwade realized this and took the lesser role so lebron could be maximized as a player. Lebron cant play in a system where he plays off ball he has to be the system but other role players in that culture lose themselves in the process its why when he's not on the floor the team struggles because the roles and responsibilties lose definition.

    • @MrPines-in1rf
      @MrPines-in1rf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. I think people undermine Jordan's flexibility when it came to being coached. I truly believe that Jordan was every bit as versatile as Lebron, yet chose to focus his talents on scoring and closing, which allowed other role players to maximize their strenghts. Lebron, for all of his talent, perhaps undermines his teammates by relegating them to spot up shooters and making them completely dependant on him. I think this overlooked, yet fundamental difference between the two great players is why Jordan went 6 for 6.

    • @samuelhicks1268
      @samuelhicks1268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrPines-in1rf exactly im glad someone else sees it

    • @arizonaFIREent
      @arizonaFIREent 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not a great shooter why should he play off the ball.

    • @samuelhicks1268
      @samuelhicks1268 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arizonaFIREent jordan did it because it maximized pippens abilities so when u in the trenches his confidence will be there because he knows exactly hos role. Lebron's teammates suffer because it all flows through him so much so that when he sits the bench the team is clueless as to what to do. If lebron developed a consistent jumpshot off the catch and shoot his teams wouldnt be in 2nd place so much although i dont count that first trip nor 15 and 18 against him.

    • @samuelhicks1268
      @samuelhicks1268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @G-man jordan adapted to a lesser role when he accepted the triangle offense which was meant to take ball responsibility from jordan so that his role players could thrive before the triangle jordan was averaging 33ppg 6.4 rebs 6.1 assists after the triangle it 30.5 6.2 and 5.2 so less of everything for the good of the team

  • @davodhashimi3809
    @davodhashimi3809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The next documentary will be the gsw when they had durant

    • @arizonaFIREent
      @arizonaFIREent 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should be a doc on the 70s Celtics. People think it's just bill, bird and truth eras. The 70s Celtics were underrated

    • @davodhashimi3809
      @davodhashimi3809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF yea bird was amazing in those years

  • @sarringtoniii
    @sarringtoniii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doug is wrong here. MJ didn't average 11 assists because the Lakers made him pass. You gotta understand Jordan. "I can't pass like Magic? Watch this.." . I can't shoot 3's like Clyde? Watch this.." I can't rebound like Charles and the Sun's? Watch this.. (9 per) ''. There was NOTHING he couldn't do if needed or asked.

  • @33moneyball
    @33moneyball 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Krause was simultaneously a great and awful GM

  • @33moneyball
    @33moneyball 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The focus on Pippen’s deal is bizarre when you look at what others had signed for and how much Pippen ultimately made in his career.

  • @geoffedward4702
    @geoffedward4702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who’s better lebron or pippen?

    • @RaiEDT
      @RaiEDT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Geoff Edward facts!

  • @itsnotrhenlopez7626
    @itsnotrhenlopez7626 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why everytime they talk about jordan cowherd include lebron which is not a depending champs

  • @iFreeThink
    @iFreeThink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's like me marrying that Muslim guy my husband once mentioned.

  • @danrode104
    @danrode104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Romper room with a Cowchip. Pay attention to your wife instead..

  • @iFreeThink
    @iFreeThink 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just be happy.

  • @NBAkingsfan10
    @NBAkingsfan10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why is Doug on the show...stop bringing him on?