Forget SSD’s. iPhone 16 Pro Records to SD Cards?!
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Do you think the best way to get high quality photos from a camera to your phone for IG is this?
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What if we need to use wireless mics like the Dji mics?
Looking at the side-by-side comparison starting at 7 mins mark, I find the Apple log side to be faded vs the regular side. I'm not sure if you labeled it wrong, but the right side looks more vibrant while the left side looks faded.
I CAN CONFIRM....
I have successfully recorded to a UHS-1 Micro SD Card (not a uhs-2) using ProRes. Here is what I have/did:
- iPhone 15 Pro, white, 512GB
- SanDisk Extreme Pro 512GB Micro SD card V30 ($52 bucks on Amazon)
- UNI SD USB-C Card reader adapter ($12 bucks on Amazon)
The iPhone was set to ProRes, LOG, 4k24, main camera. (91 minutes with 512GB micro SD Card)
I formatted the card in my MacBook Pro 13" M1 to ExFAT. Popped the card in the reader, plugged the reader into the iPhone and recorded 1 full minute of video. No errors, no stopping.
Playback was smooth.
CONCLUSION:
NO, you do not need an SSD drive. And also, NO you do not need a faster UHS-2 SD Card. As long as you have a fast UHS-1 card, you can do it.
NOTE:
This will not work with 4k30 or 4k60. If you set your camera to one of those, it WILL record, but your resulting file will end up being some wonky frame rate around 24p'ish. Basically, the iPhone will drop frame rate before it stops recording. So if you need to record 4k30 or 60, you will need a UHS-2 SD Card or an SSD. But 4k24p works just fine using a cheap Micro SD Card UHS-1.
WOW great feedback and thanks for sharing your findings!
How about kingston data traveller max. Its usb3.2 gen 2 and cam write up to 900mb/s
@@Fmdk99 yes. That would work with all ProRes framerates.
However that would be awkwardly dangerous sticking out the bottom of the phone. Be sure to use a 5” extension.
The log looks gorgeous. I can’t believe Apple hasn’t done a more traditional “Cinema profile” in all these years. Like Cinetone or Eterna. That auto HDR has been plaguing me ever since it came out as well.
Anyone using an Iphone 14 pro max does not need to replace his phone until the 16 series. Bcz in reality there is no such big diff in 14pro max and 15 pro max.. and for zoom videos or photos S22 and S23 Ultra is the best Option..
I feel like it needs a technical LUT or something to get it into the ballpark. I would think an inexperienced person would likely get better results shooting baked in and tweaking from there. That pastel look aint it. Looks not good.
You can turn off HDR and set it to SDR in ProRes. It looks decent
@@revmatchtv Also sounds like there's a LUT available on the apple website.
@@BenEricson Yes, on the Developer website.
Tyler's footage looks lovely! And ability to shoot 4K@60 in log in a base 128 gig 15Pro is truly great news!
The new base is 256gb
Never mind the pro max base is 256
I've noticed that TH-camrs who discuss mobile phone video recording never mention the jittery effect that occurs when panning left to right. It seems that the phone camera's shutter speed may be the culprit. It's frustrating to see video examples that are either in slow motion or completely still like a webcam, as this doesn't accurately represent the normal video experience. It's crazy that phone manufacturers or reviewers aren't being honest about this common issue when promoting new models. Personally, the jittery effect makes me feel dizzy. It would be great if someone could ever address this problem.
Oh yeah totally. It’s a shutter speed issue that can be fixed with Blackmagic camera app or filmic pro. I just used the built in app for this quick example. Unfortunately Apple doesn’t allow for manual shutter speed adjustment.
@@formerlydave ❤️
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@@formerlydaveyesssss, this ^^^
I’ve noticed that sometimes, but it’s far far more noticeable on my Galaxy S23 Ultra. And my Pixel six Pro versus iPhones, my 14 Pro Max and 15 Pro Max now it’s far far less noticeable and much smoother compared to android overall.
Hopefully this means that someone will make some sleek designed cases that will have the card reader built in.
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Becca from The Verge noticed that if your medium isn't fast enough, it will fall back to 30 fps without any notification. Probably something to be aware of when recording to an SD card. They might be too slow in some cases. In addition make sure that you have the proper cable.
yes. you need 200mb/s minimum write speed
@@formerlydave any recommendations for a card with those speeds?
do i need sd card with v60 or v90only for 4k60?@@formerlydave
Something that would be even better is to just get the Sharge Disk M.2 NVMe SSD enclosure that has a USB-C male port. You can hot swap the SSDs and it’s a tiny box that’ll plug directly into the bottom of the phone, no mounting necessary and way faster write speeds than SD cards
Why has no one talked about this device? Everyone is showing the most insane clunky and fail prone setups with these huge cables hanging off the phone.
Technically you only need external drive for 4K60p pro res log. 4K30P pro res log can be recorded internally. Glad I got the 1TB internal iphone
Tbh it should let you record 4k60 pro res if you have that much storage
I mean... I also ordered an iPhone 15 Pro exactly for those reasons... But it's still funny that recording to an SD Card and USB-C are a feature again... They already have been there years ago... And just were removed so that companies may ask you for way more money than they should.
Dope, thanks for sharing. The handle is a great idea. but dont forget an additional USC-C for power during use 😜👍🏽
Wireless charging case
3:23 you know you can unplug the cable with the T5 from the iPhone and plug it straight into your laptop too
Not to mention editing directly from the SSD.
Wow. I am actually very surprised at how good the colours look while recording in log, it's much better than standard. The only thing is the amount of storage it takes up because of the raw format. The only thing is that some people don't want to upgrade their phone so a cheaper alternative to shoot in raw video is just to use an old digic 5 canon camera with magic lantern.
Also worth mentioning that they manage to remove the duplicate ghost thing when there is a direct light in the frame.
Wait… They finally fixed that? 😮
@@AdamLMorewell I did not see it in the video but it absolutely remains in my 13 so I guess is fix now.
Looks like Apple fixed it without saying anything about it to avoid recognizing that huge bug in their previous iPhones.
Sneaky company lol
@@jotapeoutdoorsthey mentioned it on keynote..they add more coating on lens
@@jotapeoutdoors no it's not fixed, i remember watching couple of reviews that point it out.
@@tienduy12345 It's not "fixed" but it's infinitely better than it was before.
apple log graded footage looked AMAZING! great definitely buying the card reader for my iphone 15 pro
I’m excited about this too!
i have started using a thumb drive (usb c) which is so much better than SD card
Pro tip: An easier solution would be to get a Kingston USB SD card reader and then a USB to USB Type C adapter and just stick in in your iPhone. It will eliminate any kind of wires or the need to mount the reader you have. ;)
Yeah or something like the:
‘Alogic ULCSDMN-SGR’
or
“Anker SD Card Reader, 2-in-1 USB C Memory Card Reader for SDXC, SDHC, SD, MMC, RS-MMC, Micro SDXC, Micro SD, Micro SDHC Card, and UHS-I Card”
to eliminate that second adapter
I learned something new today. Thanks.
This is a pro tip! If anyone shoots ProRes Log iPhone footage using this set up, please let us know if it works.
Curious to know if this works with a case on
Watching this on my iPhone, the standard footage looks way better. And I don’t notice any exposure shifting. For a quick shot the standard profile is amazing. But yes if you know what you’re doing, then the log format is very useful.
On my 4K monitor, the LOG format looks way better. No sharpening applied.
Over sharpened*
The HDR footage is oversharpened, but the LOG footage isn't.@@youtube_bot839
MicroSD works for me perfectly. I use it everyday.
You can get very short USB-C cords and a MagSafe magnet (for those phones that don't have MagSafe but still want MagSafe stuff) to use on the SSD. It actually works!
I was already looking up USB MicroSD adapters to use with iPhone 15 Pro rather than a long cable for an external drive. I really want it to be as minimal as possible. Glad to know you can use SD/MicroSD instead of just a full size drive.
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I kinda like the regular 4K straight of the phone 😂😂😂
Apple Log looks amazing. Looks like proshot from a DLSR/Film
I've got the same 128gb phone and I've been messing around with the external recording. I put in a usb-c thumb drive with 1TB and could record to it, showing 119 minutes 4k. The read write is slow though. Here's what I noticed. If I record something and unplug too fast I don't get the whole recording, if I wait a while I do get the whole recording, but there is nothing telling you when the data transfer is done. I've ordered the usb-c to sd card reader because I have a bunch of fast sd cards. My plan is to get a spare case and attach the reader to it then tie back the cord, I'm hoping to use it on my osmo gimbal :)
Basically what Im noticing too. The speed at which you can hit record again after you stop will depend on the speeds of the the drive you use. The T5 can stop and start almost instantly, while the slower cards, I will hit stop and then some will take 10 seconds and others 30 seconds, but the native app will be frozen until it saves the video and you are able to hit record again. Depending on the use case and what footage you need that day, you can definitely get away with using the slower storage options, but if you need quick stop and start recording, you need to make sure you get a really fast storage option like the T5.
Wonder how many things that usb port can do simultaneously. Imagine recording to sd, and also audio out and mic input and hdmi out for monitoring, AND charging at the same time
lol same thing I’m thinking, someone might be able to test this out with a USB C hub with all of these inputs on there.
Make a case with a dual card slot reader and you can use it for weddings
There are some nice reasons to use ProRes, but the real quality and post process control comes from using ProRes RAW, which I don’t think the iPhone can do? Log is simply the removal of saturation and contrast to gain “space” to save a bit more dynamic range, also a smart option.
I’m liking my SanDisk iXpand Luxe for the iPhone. Easy to clip on a keychain. USB C flash drive is my favorite method right now. Hope this helps someone. 👍
Thank you so much you just save me so much money now I can use 4k and log with a mini sd card I had laying around instead of buying a ssd
I would love for the DJI Osmo to have some type of SD card input so therefore you have your gimbal iPhone, 15 and storage all in one kit
This video blew up fast! Man this was one thing I was going to test and make a video on and you beat me to it! Nice!! This is awesome!
I’m imagining a case that has a m.2 style (2230?) ssd with USB-C that also allows for charging pass through? Somehow, that drive could quickly come out (solutions for this do exist) and be popped into a faster enclosure at the computer to quickly dump the drive.
It’ll probably make the most sense to go SD Card due to it being cheaper, smaller, having less heat and more handable than m.2 drives.
It is a neat idea to think of though, especially as SSDs get cheaper. You wouldn’t even need to go NVMe over SATA if you didn’t want to. But if you’re recording a lot at once? Just put a PCIe gen5 NVMe SSD in there and record normally while the dump station goes crazy.
In fact, I have some DIY units with Kingston SSDs and an AliExpress case that costs approximately $70 for 1TB.They work very well, I even think it is better since the 10gbps USB gives you a better workflow than an SD for the same price
Now imagine if the iPhone had a built in SD card slot. None of this would be necessary 😂
I’m cool with just a micro SD card
They leave it for iphone 16 pro 😂😂 i guess its all on purpose
@@edmalekofficial i got a better idea, sd cards paired to the mainboard
Wow! But imagine there would be something like a cloud storage :O that would even be more insane, instant access on your laptop! that be crazy!!
You mean like the free Blackmagic Camera App and Blackmagic Cloud that was released a couple of days ago?
A really important step for the iPhone Empire
It's funny that I'm filming on an LG v60 straight to an SD card...
Seriously underrated gem when combined with MC 0:05 pro24 or motioncam
Yeah but Apple Log is unmatched. I've never seen such a powerful beautiful profile.
it's nice, but shoot raw with motioncam on android or shoot HLG2020 HDR10 on mcpro24 apps. @@formerlydave not saying apple log isn't great, it's just funny to me that the biggest change for iphone users is the ability to use USB-C. seems.....kinda..ya know
i'm sure somebody else has mentioned it but it looks like the microSD card was the slowest speed kind not extreme pro or uhs II, I'm thinking that it would work with the right card capability!
Yes! Make sure it's 200MB/S at least
Had no idea about the LOG feature which is actually SICK!
To my humble, untrained eye , I prefer that stock footage rather than the log video in your side by side.
I've been doing this with a 1TB SSD usb c drive for 4 years on my android....... just find it funny how every one feels like this is the coolest thing since sliced bread.
😮🙂👏 This is definitely a better option for us. We have lots of SD space to spare so keeping the dongle in our kit makes more sense for workflow. Awesome vid!
fantastic! yes totally. just make sure the cards are at least 200mb/s
I just wanted to ask for this, thank you!!! @@formerlydave At least 200 then?....
@@formerlydave so 200mb/s cards isn't enough, is it David?
You can record to a SanDisk - Ultra Dual Drive Luxe 1TB flash drive. It's only $120 and it makes for a good way to grip your phone while recording
Man, yeah the phone cases people will make for this are very exciting.
People are geeking over SSD because you can edit from it. I don’t know of anyone editing with SD Cards. Even the transfer to the computer or a drive is typically slower.
I use a Kingston SSD high speed thumb drive and it works amazing with ProRes 4k 60 fps
I didn’t buy the apple one, and have one for microsd cards, it’s awesome
Is there is this magic handle already ? Would be great to have the possibility to insert just sd card reader to expand the memory
A grip at the bottom would block the mics. This won’t be an issue if using external ones, something to consider though.
I tested a variety of options and hands down SSD drives perform the best. I got a 1TB Samsung i7 and it has superior performance over SD cards.
for sure. just wanted to point out an interesting use case
Wow I noticed the default grading looked WAY better on my TV, and checked on my iPhone 15 and they both looked fine but the right side still looked “nicer”. Is it a case of grading to suit the purpose? A “studio” shot or other indoor environment probably doesn’t need or want the full range of reality recreation you get outside - it’s not an impressive location scene. Anyway let me know - if it’s an interesting philosophical point, make a video about it?
I just tested external recording prores log on Samsung T7, using original cable vs samsuung t7 cable. I saw that the iphone original cable will cause frame drop intensively and it took much longer to write to T7 after click stop recording when the usb-c gen 2 cable finishes saving the file to T7 right after I click stop recording without losing any frames. Therefore, using another usb-c cable for iphone pro (max) is the must to utilize its features
The original cable is is USB 2.0 (480Mbits/s, or 60Mbytes/s). 4K60 Log takes up about 100MBytes every second, so that'll be what causes the stuttering as there is literal data being lost in the process. Additionally, USB 2.0 is incredibly unstable, it rarely ever gets the 480mbps at consistent rates. That'd be why you're getting issues (Apple does state to use a higher speed cable on their product page)
Small rig taking phone case notes rn
I like how you have Tyler S in the background LOL... Awesome TIP BTW
The whole time. He’s the GOAT
Probably next year the iPhone 16 Pro Max will feature a removable micro SD card slot. Oh my god in heaven !
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What’s the data rate on these formats? Gotta make sure the media you’re using is up to snuff to handle it. Not sure if Apple uses a buffer when writing to disk, or if dropped frames are a risk.
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Nice work! Excited to see what else we can plug into these little beasts...
The cable that comes with the iPhone is only a basic charging cable. I would not trust it for data. Buy a more recently made cable that can handle high-speed transfers. Also, please don't do any critical work until you do a test recording and check it for dropped frames.
I wish this worked with just plain 4k videos. I don't need pro res raw but I wanna record to a drive or SD card
yeah i agree!
Can you explain what "log" is? Every time you showed filming in "log" the image was flat and unsaturated. So, how is this a good thing?
1. Can we record regular 4k video to the card reader/SSD.......the non Prores video
2. If we use the USB port for recording video .how would we use the wireless mic receiver into the phone
Apples multi AV adaptor
Kudos to the idea of making card reader into a grip.
this is done in China already. They just have to adapt it for iphone
Thanks for this. One thing I'm not clear on: if you're using the USB port for external recording, how do you use wireless mics? The receiver normally plugs into the lightning/usb port, so how do you get around that?
USB-C hub works great.
The T7 has lower sustained writing speed than the T5. Perhaps lower write cache. T7 drops significantly below their specifications after a while in a session. It’s not really an upgrade. It’s more of a cheaper alternative. For sustained data rate T5 is still the better choice, in my opinion.
Great tip! Thanks!
Many ppl complain about too much saturation or color mapping but why not conmpain for horrific lens flare low light
imagine needing a dongle adapter to use an SD card, and getting excited about it lmao
Well crud, if I had seen this video first, I might’ve saved 100 bucks and opted for the 128GB model
My Samsung Galaxy has a built in SD card slot and you guys are plugging in that dongle thingy :)
What I’ve heard that message appears when the storage is not formatted. It has to be exFAT format. Haven’t tried it personally yet
Been doing this with Android for 15 years now
Nice insights! Great job putting this together, love how the footage looks! 👏
This is a fantastic feature for iPhones! Can this also work if you want to shoot standard 4K video directly to a SD card too?
Honestly it might be revolutionary for iphones, but i did the same thing with my S22/128gb around march this year. I was worried about running out of space due to lots of photos i take, then i bought a sd card adpter from Ugreen and it worked just like showed in the video.
And, if I'm not wrong, there's even version of the same device with more ports for usb pen drives and etc...
Samsung phones dont have ProRes log… thats the point here. You can use a lightning adapter for regular stuff before.
@@powerhouse884have you ever heard about format conversion software?
they need to bring back the internal sd card. My s20 from 2020 allows 2TB cards. Plenty of storage.
@@powerhouse884 the whole point is android has motion cam app. Shoots in Raw DNG, way better than prores. Many other free apps with other raw formats for years now. Get a 2TB internal sd and you don't need all those adapters.
What I get excited is adding an external battery to the bed of the CyberTruck to double its range.
Omg...such revolutionary tech to be able to use sd card....but jokes aside, the softare part of getting video and photos from that 48mp sensor is impressive...against other 48mp sensors on android that is.
Really nice video. (from youtuber to youtuber)
This feature alone could be reason enough to upgrade my iphone 14 pro.
I probably won't. but its really really cool. especially if you are a content creator.
U can get those stick on MagSafe magnets and mount it onto the back off the SSD. And boom it sticks to your phone 🤯
I think you'll find that an Extreme Pro Micro SD card will work fine. The EXtreme probably isn't fast enough.
I am doing this with my android phone since about 6 years. Great big future step apple
How about adding magsafe magnetic sticker to bottom of a cardreader with magsafe case!
This is awesome! Cant wait for cases to be made
So Apple won’t people record 4k60 ProRes on their 1tb internal storage, but allows people to record it on a 256gb SD card.
Well done Apple
Try a U-shaped USB-C male-to-male adapter for the SSD drive - should work well.
There is this amazing feature in Android phones, where you can plug in micro SD cards by default! lol Some even have headphone jacks. Brilliant.
I still don't get it why people still buy iPhone these days. I mean their tech is way behind and unstable compared to some high end Android phones.
@@rexmanigsaca398 i bought a pixel just to get rid of this thief ecosystem ... You need to pay for an app because your 4k 60 fps video are not showing in your phone because they are to big ? Seriously , iphone never again lol
@@rexmanigsaca398because iPhone is better, so we wait till they give us whatever features
The problem is that most flagship Android phones have ditched the microSD card slot. The only one that still has it is the Xperia.
What about usb-c sticks? Because that would be really handy!
Or perhaps, incorporate a micro sd card slot to the phone...like the previous Samsung versions.
Is there an easy solution for using the one port for the SDCard and having a port for the microphone when using a iPhone camera cage/rig?
Interesting: I have an SD/Micro SD card reader with a USB-A plug at one end and a USB-C plug at the other. That would be an ideal device to use in this scenario.
Great video, thx. I would try, if that exist, a longer usb-c cable and leave my card reader or my ssd drive in my pocket when filming. This is more discreet when traveling... in order to avoid theft.
I just tried this with a usb-c flash drive. Worked great with my pro max.
I keep thinking I clicking on a video that's 10 years old but it's not, wow you recorded to an SD card. 😂
The graded Log footage doesn’t look right at all. I tried grading it in Resolve and I couldn’t get it to look right either. Honestly, this doesn’t seem like a good implementation of the Log format. Something is wrong with it.
yeah the grade i did here isn’t good. i agree. you talking about my LUTs?
@@formerlydave I haven’t tried your LUTs yet but I will. I don’t think your LUTs are necessarily the issue. There is something weird about the Apple Log format.
@@formerlydave I tried your Luts and I am still having problems getting it to look right. What input colorspace are you using? Is that the built in Apple LOG colorspace?
@@formerlydave I got it to work. Log looks really good now with or without a LUT. I had the colorspace setup incorrectly.
glad it’s working!
A grip with a slot for NVME 4TB, a battery, cooling, some extra ports and a shutter button. Easy.
Apple cracks me up... Everyone's talking about the camera and the new camera apps and Black magic.. The biggest change for Apple is the ability to use USB-C devices...
What mic are you using
Building a frankenstein rig to do basic video camera stuff lol.
down thumb for excessive hand waving, inducing vertigo
This is very informative and exciting! I am getting the iPhone 15 thanks for this!